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What went so horribly wrong?
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>>722507018
They accidentally lobotomized the AI of two of the factions and said "We'll fix it in like 8 months lol"
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>>722507018
SmEGA.
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>british retards can't code for shit, release broken game then abandon it to go work on inevitable vaporware
>slavs try to fix it and do an okay job with some ups and downs
>slavs now have messed it up to the point it's in its worst state since IE release
Why is every British software company ever managed to horribly?
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>>722507517
It's always sad seeing the beaten housewife fandoms like Total War or Battletech come out into the public with a new black eye and yet still fanatically defend and shower those developers with money time and time again.

At least it's mostly guys playing this crap so it's only their hobbies that get a beating every time CA or PGI/Catalyst has a bad day. If there were any women in the fandom you'd genuinely have to worry about the sort of relationship they'd fall into and tolerate for the rest of their life.
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skeleton crew with no dlc in sight, theyre betting everything on TW40k
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>>722507018
>hey if you want the full game you have to buy the first 2 also.
>they're still full price almost a decade later
>you also need to pay money for a dlc to unlock the option to have blood in the game.
Far too kikish, just sheer kikedry going on.
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>>722509078
Trilogy was 40€ the other day, but then again that might also be too much for you.
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I just bought this. Is there a way to turtle and fight defensive battle or is it just endless conquest and empire-building?
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>>722507018
>release a patch to fix shit
>said patch completely breaks the AI of factions you're trying to fix
>we know we fucked up, it's getting fixed in the next patch 7.0
>7.0 is a month or two away cuz of the delays
>repeat the same fucking cycle with every new dlc ad nauseam
hey but at least our tranny hero shooter abandonware paid off, right?
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>>722509467
yea, play dwarfs or cathay
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>>722507018
It takes them a year to release one DLC
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>>722507018
Its not like they were amazing before but Hyenas or whatever the fuck it was called definitely didnt make it better
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>>722509361
I'm never gonna buy it cause of the kikism. It's called a principle, you wouldn't get it.
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>>722507018
just buy the steam key for TW:W III it's going for 16€ and creamapi all the DLCs, it's pretty worth if for that price.

the core problems of the game arise when you put hundreds of hours in so by that time you'll either move on or get your moneys worth
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>>722507018
Technological debt is a real thing and it's kicking in hard for Warhammer Total War.

It's a shame since there is a lot of good things about the game and I like the fact people can finally mod maps. The Old World map is freaking amazing.
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>>722509571
Don't forget a fan showing they can fix it in 10 minutes.
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>>722510026
The biggest issue was too many fucking games. Overextended, and all of them with building technological debt.
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>>722507517
yup
this and the AI blobbing all armies around 1 city since the tzeenchling update
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>>722507018
Let me explain
>Creative Assembly, known for Total War series and Alien: Isolation was making Hyenas
>Hyenas was a... looter shooter? extraction shooter? who cares, it was ugly and obnoxious Concord-tier game
>at the same time it was the most expensive game SEGA has ever made (CA is owned by SEGA)
>there was so much negativity for the game, even after the closed beta, that Hyenas was cancelled before it even released
>it was followed by a number of lay offs in CA
>it hit every team of CA, one of them was the DLC team for Total War: Warhammer 3
>usually the game is made by one team, then the DLC team takes over to keep the game alive with a stream of DLCs and fixing the mess than the main team left
>from 2-3 DLCs a year we got maybe 1 a year now
>bugs aren't fixed with hotfixes or small patches, they only fix them with a major patch or a DLC, but those break other things
>recent patch broke like 11 factions, they literally sit in one place and do nothing, that totally screws the balance of the campaign
>it'll likely get fixed when the new DLC releases, which was supposed to be in October but doesn't seem likely
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>>722510992
Well it's just capitalism catching up to them.
Rome 2 sold 3 million copies.
Warhammer 3 sold 2.5 million copies.
Three Kingdoms sold 3 million copies.

If you're a businessman, it's clear to you you're looking at a dead business. And their attempt to pump those numbers up was regular and frequent releases.

Doesn't matter if your games haven't sold a single copy more for over a decade if you only made 1 game per 3 years and now you're making 1 game with the same sales every 3 financial quarters... or at least that was the theory.
When it became clear they couldn't do that, they tried chasing modern trends with Hyenas.

And today they're probably betting their future on Warhammer 40k being a giganigga IP that will be able to break past 3m barrier and be the first one to generate higher earnings than the stuff preceding it.
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>>722507018
All the profits from WH2 DLCs and WH3 sales went directly to Hyenas.
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>>722511623
Didn't Warhammer 1 and 2 pretty drastically outsell the other games?

Well, either way, it's a fine business if you want reliable income. If you expect explosive growths you are out of luck since strategy games are a niche genre.
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>>722511265
Also just yesterday the biggest (or one of the biggest, I don't follow it exactly) Total War streamer/youtuber announced that he has enough and he's quitting, so the general mood of the community went down. Ok, it was already down, it went even lower.
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>>722507018
Like every time redditors wake up and start mass downreporting.
An eceleb finally explained to them the games a buggy mess.

People are going to say its because of the most recent patchs bugs, but every update the game somehow becomes more broken.
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What's funny is that CA could turn WH3 into a cash cow by pumping out endless skaven DLC. Ratniggers love that slop.
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>>722507517
It's been going on longer than that. The AI has been broken for more than a year. Sometimes huge armies just clump up around settlements and never move.

After the Fateweaver update I vassalized Wurzag and he did fuck all for 50+ turns and didn't take a single settlement.
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>>722511773
WH2 was CA's flagship peak, purely because the DLCs for that game were wildly successful, because... they were actually good? I can't think of a single DLC for any of their other games that was worth purchasing.

It doesn't help that CA exclusively gets their player feedback from Reddit which is full of bugmen who refuse to criticize their benevolent overlords.
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>>722512097
Trying to play Oxyotl reveals how broken the AI is and I reccomend everyone do it.
>All of your missions to assassinate a lord
>Teleport to it, 5 lords all standing in a circle around the AIs base.
Every time
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Also Shadows of Change DLC period was interesting...
>CA released a DLC that was lackluster
>more expensive than before
>less content then before
>people didn't buy it
>many moved back to Warhammer 2 since it was in a better state
>CA went ballistic, started banning people on Steam forums
>one of them even tried blackmailing players "You need to buy the DLC or we won't make any more"
>it took them a while to notice that their politics with the community isn't working
>after that they said they're sorry and expanded the DLC like twice for free
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>>722512097
I think that's how the AI is supposed to act when you vassalize them. They're your puppet state at that point basically and don't have free will. They don't take settlements unless you sell them to them.
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>>722509467
not really, since the more settlements you have the strong you are. If you just sit there with a few starting settlements you'll get steamrolled eventually
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>>722512013
WHY IS THERE NOT A SINGLE SKAVEN DLC FOR THIS GAME YET? WHAT IS WRONG WITH CA?
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>>722512294
I noticed that shit when playing as Arbaal. They would just camp in a fucking city and never leave.
>>722512335
Fine lets say that vassalizing lobotomizes the AI. Then why the fuck is there a button to even tell them what to do if they still refuse to do it? I told his ass to capture a settlement and he did fuck all for dozens of turns. He wasn't even weak since he had 5+ armies and a waaagh going at the time I vassalized him.
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>>722512238
Can I just buy WHFB 2 all in somewhere and not worry about 3
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>>722512535
*as in is this some live service thing where even if I "buy" 2 it'll be the three engine and broken, or is it an actual different game
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>>722512013
All we really have left of note would be Thanquol and Boneripper, then some changes to previous lords like giving Queek Ska as a legendary Hero and retooling most of the pre-Skyre clans to have something.

Most rat fags I know would probably buy it despite the game's current state, the want for Queek is so bad.
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>>722512535
Just pirate everything. CA does not deserve your money. They just blow it on woke shit like Hyenas.
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>>722509361
Shabat shalom, goyim! Yes of course, you should buy the ultra deluxe pack which comes with half of the DLC! Please goyim, buy all of the bundles and keep funding our business model!
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>>722512467
That's something I've noticed as well in a Valkia campaign. Even though you give them orders to attack a settlement they still want to defend their own borders. I've seen my Norscan vassal spend 2 turns marching towards the settlement I told him to attack and then change his mind and walk all the way back to one of his random settlements cause a Nurgle army decided to walk by.
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>>722512685
Stop encouraging me to buy CA games.
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>>722512670
I miss Queekposting.
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>>722511842
He announced he's done forever this time like several times already and that's ones I heard about without following him closely. He always ends up crawling back in a few weeks.
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>>722507018
Pre-ordered both the first and second installments of the series, and spent over 1000 hours in each. I bought all the DLCs and could see the trainwreck this one was going to be from a mile away. Glad I never bought it, everything from the loss of faction identity to blatant DLC power creep and the poorly implemented new mechanics looked terrible.
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>>722512670
>>722513137
If CA can pull shit out of their ass to fluff up a literal who faction like Cathay to entice chinks, what's stopping them from doing the same for more ratfags, Araby, Ind, etc.?
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>>722512897
Drowning Black Orc's in a endless tide of Clanrats and Skavenslaves is never more entertaining.
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>>722507018
Everyone kept pre-ordering the dlcs instead of pirating them.
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>>722513294
Imagine the seethe from Chinese players if Nippon were added.
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>>722513294
Cathay was a GW mandate, which is why it's so crap.
Though saying that, vampire coast was cobbled together OC so they're certainly capable of it if GW doesn't stick their nose in.
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>>722513005
i dont get whats his plan, is he really going to retire as 35year old and swap to soulcrushing job with massive CV gap when he was earning $15k a month posting 5 disaster battles a week? absolute RETARD
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>>722514071
A lot of streamers think they can just swap to another game.
But then come crawling back because they dont wanna rebuild.

Its why I think so many of them are miserable
>haha time to stream my 5,000th hour of a game I no longer enjoy
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>toehul wah is billshit
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Who torments the tides
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>>722514071
Did you forget that he's been raking in $40-50k every month for the past 7 years? Nigger he's loaded, and he's explained multiple times that he's invested every penny he earned. His dividends probably make more now than his revenue did at his peak.
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>>722509078
Why are strategy games in particular this jewish? Stellaris and Age of Wonders 4, Cities Skylines all have a shitton of DLCs some of which vital
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>>722514403
>Villain was actually right in the end all along and wins
Kino
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Do mods fix it
Also isn't there a sexo corruption mod
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>>722514531
Nah. He was only ever right by accident, and given the sheer state of his existence he's physically incapable of winning.
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>>722509467

Dwarves can build tall with few settlements but you're pretty much forced to fight quite a lot of time regardless of which faction you choose
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>>722514690
I remember him crashing out during Covid about something in England and I couldn't decipher what the fuck he was talking about. What he was for or against, and just being very confused. That's just all scots though
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>>722512685
CA didnt even want to make hyena's, that was forced on them.
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>>722514690
Now that's coping
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>>722514071
He still streams, its just total war specifically hes backing away from.
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>Buy the game
>"Please select one of 40 characters"
>....

It's too overwhelming. I have no idea what to pick. I'm just going to refund it.
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>>722515085
Wrong.
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>>722507018
>Total War Warhammer so popular it simultaneously brings back WHFB and kills CA through greed
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>>722515097
He was bitching about inconsequential minutiae for half a decade before they shit the bed, and when they actually did he was practically irrelevant because he didn't know enough about the game to properly join in.
He's just an eternal sperg with a fixation, no different from the many we have here that refuse to fuck off from a topic, except he's not anonymous.
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>>722513879
I feel like that was half the case with how Kislev was designed as well.
With how good the OC they made for the skeleton of Vampire Coast was, you'd think they'd be capable of creating something more in line with Warhammer than the almost Age of Sigmar feeling Kislev designs.
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>>722510036
>It's called I am poor
I completely understand. Not everyone can be as privileged as typical middle class workers.
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>>722515372
Trying to find them but a bunch of CA devs tweeted out they warned sega execs that hyena was doomed, but sega wanted their mythical dragon
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>>722515420
It's more CA killing themself through greed. Shouldn't have spend all good boy Charlemagnes in one go.
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>>722515770
Convenient excuses, not buying it.
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>>722515774
yeah, that's what I thought.
find someone less pitiful to white knight for next time.
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>>722515334
if you bought only the base game you can play like three factions
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>>722515990
This has happened with a bunch of other devs, where the publisher ignores their studios and goes on anyway. Marathon is another example. While bungie is shit the devs knew it was a stupid idea, but the exec's needed a new shiny product to protect their control since sony warned them if they dont get their shit together they are taking over creative control.
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What's a fun first campaign of immortal empires? I've barely played any total war game before.
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>>722516343
Switch to WH2, 3 is trash.
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>>722507018
the rats were not sexy enough to keep me interested
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>>722516343
tyrion for good guys skarbrand for bad guys
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It's surreal how the main TW team's fuckup is still felt to this day and they're still trying to fix shit. It's crazy how monumentally bad those people fucked everything up with WH3's release.
I love this game but at this point, just fucking drop it. Drop development, drop support, send Sofia to your next project and ensure you put out a good baseline product that won't fucking tank your studio like WH3 almost did.
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>>722507018
Rather than just making a base experience that's engaging and fun to play, they've basically created a live-service game that depends on keeping an ever-shrinking pool of whales happy with new content. Also, they've got Smash-Bros syndrome with their gorillion factions and z-tier characters that are impossible to balance effectively. I'm not paying $30+tip to play Skukzutch-Blazzurt the Baby Annihilator who's faction effect is to get 20% discount on agent actions.
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>>722511623
I'm never touching 40K if they are not able to fix WH3
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>>722508474
Name something British that isn't being horribly mismanaged
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>>722515240
Pretty sure he says he'll only stream till the end of the year or so. He'll do a charity stream or something then move on to other things. And yeah, he might be back eventually, but he just need some rest. And do you blame him? It's what happen to people that build their internet persona around one game. Especially when said game turns into shit.
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>>722517193
killing russians
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>>722514514
They expect the average strategy game player to be older and have more income so they milk them.
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>>722517419
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>722511842
>ugh... i am so le depressed and my life is so hard because i made a ton of money playing video games for 15 years straight
God I hate these weak whiny pathetic faggots. Fucker lived life on easy mode and acts like he was busting his ass for decades.
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>>722518420
what colour is your bugatti?
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It feels so good to be a history chad
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>>722514071
He has previously claimed that he made enough money from his youtube career to effectively retire. I'm willing to belive that's true. There's probably something addictive about wealth and lifestyle creep though or wife is nagging him what if they have another kid or they could still move into an even bigger house or something. That or the fact that he still enjoys the fame and attention in itself (as much as he'd probably deny it) and gets bored doing nothing so he keeps coming back.

>>722514304
I remember he tried at one point with Valheim of all things and it clearly didn't work and he was back.
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>>722514071
Are young are you? Plenty of people change careers in their 30s. If he didn't spend like a retard he should have plenty of money for the next few years anyway.
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>>722512097
That sounds like something that happened to me very early in WH3, not long before I just dropped the game for a year. Played Katarin and one of the northern Kislev minors was really kicking Norscan ass. I had fronts everywhere, so it was great how this guy just took care of the north pass like that. So I allied him because he liked me a lot, and then immediately after that he went from tactical mastermind to useless retard and 6 turns later he was reduced to 1 settlement.
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My hope for a Nagash and an endtimes DLC is already almost gone. Shame, it would have been fun and just the endgame content the game was lacking.
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>>722507868
>it's the publisher's fault we can't code for shit!
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>>722521738
Endtimes DLC is almost guaranteed, to what extent it'll involve Nagash that remains to be seen but we know they're going to announce the biggest expansion to date yet next year and this can only really mean something Endtimes related
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>>722521546
TWWH has always been like that. They specifically designed AI to be braindead when allied to the player and megamind when enemies.
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After playing some AOW 4 and looking into some other 4xes, Total War has always had weak and buggy campaigns that were trash. It's the retroactive realization that the company has been trash for a while, like Bethesda. The people that made Total War good all those years ago aren't a part of CA anymore.
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>Kinda want to do a Settra campaign focusing on Vassals, specifically one without that TK Expanded mod because it's a bit hilariously imbalanced
>Keep cancelling the install before it's even done because I already know that it will just be an exercise in frustration since Vassals are essentially lobotomites
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Is Age of Wonders 4 any good? Never played a game from this series. Also can you creampie the DLC?
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>>722524352
Total War games really has no comparison/competation.
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>>722524720
no you can't "creampie a dlc", you can't even have sex with them to begin with
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>>722524720
yes and yes
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>>722525693
thanks and thanks
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>>722524720
I legit think I might try this if not for paradoxes awful dlc policies
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>>722524720
No
Setting had all lore and soul removed
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Warhammer fucking ruined total war. Atilla was the last decent historical title and now it's doomed to be neckbeard slop forever. I'm am unironically mad and will die mad about this. We could have had WW1 or Empire 2 but instead we get all these fucking worthless 1 hero unit can solo an army lmao titles because you retards cannot wait to pull your wallets out to buy the next WH game. Fuck WH fans and fuck Creative Assembly for ruining one of the greatest historical grand strategy series of all time.
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>>722527825
simply admiring the models as it was my irl miniature army is a pleasure you historycels will never understand, go play with your formation somewhere else, this is a warhammer franchise right now
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>>722507517
I dropped this shitshow in the first game when wood elves were released and every campaign ended up being the same race against time where you have to try and stop tree hitler early or he conquers the known world. I'm glad to see that they are still pulling the same retarded shit 10 years later
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>>722507018
>Fuck up the launch
>Fuck up the DLC
>Content production pipeline grinds to a halt
>Leave game-breaking bugs unfixed for months
>No games releasing anytime soon, only endless rumors

Hyenas really fucked them up, didn't it? I'm honestly expecting them to get liquidated by SEGA at some point.
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>>722514403
>>722514531
he's back now too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfO4vR44Lvc

>>722514690
cope, Volound Won.
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>>722529797
they will be announcing the next TW titles this december
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>>722507018
As far as I can tell, this is because a youtuber released a video
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>>722530521
Nah they broke the game even worse with the new patch two weeks ago
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Have they even added Araby yet? Wouldn't that be the last faction to complete the world map?
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>>722530659
Which people only care about because a youtuber made a video. Bugs come and go, but without a talking head telling the masses how to feel about it they just happily keep playing.
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>>722530804
He only posted the video yesterday and the negative reviews have been pouring in consistently over the last two weeks. Reddit has been bitching the whole time too
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>>722530918
That's not what I'm seeing.
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>>722512097
I'm new to strategy/4x games but I've yet to see one where the fanbase isn't complaining bitterly about the ai. It just seems strange to me. I would think that of all things, quality AI should be one of the first priorities of any strategy/tactics game? There is multiplayer but damn these games are pretty long on average. Surprised people find the time to organize sessions together.
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>>722513879
>Cathay was a GW mandate,
It was apparently the other way round,d and it was CA who convinced GW to expand Cathay and make it a full faction they talked about in some GW designer commentary from earlier in the year
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>>722530720
>Wouldn't that be the last faction to complete the world map?
nah there's plenty left to have a "complete" map such as the the ind serpent dudes, nippon colonies or even minor factions like the dogs of war, at this point they said no more Race packs and TTW3 is close to its end of support anyways so the current map/factions is as far as you are gonna get without mods
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>>722531117
My understanding is that Total War is on some ancient cobbled together engine that really needs to be retired. That said, looking at the "new" engines nowadays doesn't inspire much hope.
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>>722514514
They usually get a decade worth of full dev team support. Which tends to cost money.
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Is it fine just as a base copy of the game?
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>>722531523
3 is the worst base game. Get 2 or 1 instead if youre only getting one.
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>>722531404
I'm guessing that rumoured 40k Total War will be on a completely different engine
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>>722531523
3 is the most modern and updated of the three, but is going through some issues right now.
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>>722531117
Most 4x games just have bad AI that needs to cheat to provide a challenge, which makes adapting to the AI's cheats a fundamentally different game than playing against a clever player. This game the AI is actually just completely broken in certain cases, on top of being annoying to deal with and relying on cheats to provide a challenge.
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>>722531107
post what you're seeing
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>>722509467
>buys a game titled TOTAL WAR
>"erm do I have to fight???"
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>>722523175
Fuck, I just realised that's probably why there's STILL no Chaos endgame crisis after three fucking years. They're releasing it as an End Times DLC feature.
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>>722510718
Hold up, there's a mod to fix this out already?
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The latest update broke the Lizardmen and Tomb Kings. Each of their factions no longer play the game, down to not even recruiting additional trrops. But the Beastmen have been broken since forever anyways. They've always just hid in their herding stone, waiting for another major faction to earn the LL's defeat trait just to be wiped from existence by turn 20.
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>>722531523
Get TWWH 1 and 2. Less issues, and almost all the core factions are in this.
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>>722531721
I’m already expecting it to be UE5.
With all the money CA lost on Hyenas, there is no way the executives will greenlight spending money on a custom engine.
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>>722534385
(Or Unity - see DoW4)
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>>722512013
Furries in general are a massively untapped market. They're known to have a ginormous community of whales and "the fandom" is known for being extremely socially and sexually progressive to even obnoxious degrees. It's strange how they are never catered to yet they want to push PoC trannies so damn hard. If you make the PoC trannies anthro animals they would actually sell but its like there is some all ruling global shadow law that makes them refuse to ever (purposely) appeal to furries across the board in all industries.
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I wonder why they shit and piss so much with AI in the game. It like they don't understand their own code. Never seen a game with so much broken ai before
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Hey guys LegendOfTotalWar here i'm retired
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>>722535576
Jews hate furchads
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>>722507018
>overpriced
>poor performance
>worse sieges than a game from 2006
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>>722535815
It's well known that they have no idea what their code does. TW3 was made on an older branch of TW2 so the AI improvements the "B" team made were just completely missing and have never really fully been reimplemented yet.
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>>722514514
Those are all published by Paradox, about three years ago they got some fucking kike as marketing director that proudly announced their business model would be adding as much DLC as possible for titles while raising their cost every year
Sega was also trying the same thing with TW but by the time the third game came out everyone was tired of the model plus the game came out really bugged and unoptimized because they sent all of the competent devs to work on Hyenas just for that game to die of cringe
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>>722507018
>Was planning on getting 3 on the next big sale
>This happens
Guess I'll take it for a sign. I'm kinda bummed though. I feel like this indicates that the next release is probably gonna kill CA. They're just incompetent.
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This game looks and plays fucking identical to WH2. Uninstalled, refunded.
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>>722536020
This was funny. I never really understood his playstyle. It just seemed so tedious and unfun.
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>>722536736
If anything 2 is better, turns go faster without China and chaos bloat
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>>722536736
You clearly never played it. WH3 plays substantially worse
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>>722536020
yeah ok, thanks for the superchat though
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>>722536348
I genuinely hope CA and Sega die just for the sake of punishing them for Hyenas. What the fuck were they thinking.
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>>722537083
Don't blame sega for that shit, that was all CA until sega learned about it and shitcanned it
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>>722507018
160000 bajillion dollars for all the DLC is all i needed to see to never touch this franchise
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>>722536925
I played 34 minutes. Half of which may have been spent on loading screens.
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>>722536860
He's minmax as fuck because his bread and butter content is un-fucking 'disaster battles' that cant be won by playing 'normally'
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>>722536479
>This happens
the AI has been broken for more than half a year bro
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>Play the game
>It's fun
>The only thing you hear about the game is how terrible it is
I understand that there are serious problems with the game but I'm honestly so tired of the constant complaining. It feels like all these people just materialize out of nowhere every time something goes even slightly wrong with the game. Nobody gives a shit when everything works and praise for the game is something unheard of. And I'm not just talking about TWW3 but about games in general these days. It feels like people just don't want games at all and behave like little children refusing to eat porridge.
God, I just want us all to burn in nuclear fire, we definitely deserve it.
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>>722536030
Why though? There is so much money that could be made. I thought there was even a whole meme that they support things they themselves ban in their own communities if it weakens over societies. I know you're just memeing but it's still baffling because it has to be true to some extent. They refuse to touch it despite that it fits all their meme goals to do so.
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I remember a couple of years back about like a really in depth porn mod for the game. What ever happened with that?
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>>722537691
kys CA shill
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>>722537691
Most of the current bitching is because the last two patches have broken parts of the game. And in typical video game corporation fashion they fired all of their QA workers, expect players to do QA work, and then just ignore player feedback and release broken patches. Given TWW3's rocky lifecycle it's hard not to be annoyed
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>>722537736
Their death cult has a history of being opposed by "pagan" (goyim) cultures that viewed man as a part of nature with animal/human gods and mythical creatures, furries are the modern incarnation
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>>722537691
>parts of the game literally don't work
>"UGH just like enjoy things you entitled chud!!!!"
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>>722537417
it was funny seeing the difference when one of the mpfags submitted a disaster battle. the guy whose campaign it was won the battle by playing it out legit and microing all over the map with the final move being a charge from a unit that only had like 6 guys left alive. then legend beats it by hiding his entire army in a forest for 40 minutes while using his lord to benny hill all of the enemies until they were tired and could be easily killed.
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>>722537691
The reason I bitch and moan so much about WH3 is BECAUSE I love it to an unreasonable degree. It could be so much better with just a little effort but CA have all but given up on it.

>The only thing you hear about the game is how terrible it is
This is because there's fucking nothing to talk about because there's been no DLC for ten months and we still don't even have a date or full trailer for the next one. Every point of discussion has been exhausted, months ago. Everyone ITT is talking about the most recent game update, as you'd expect - which happens to be the one that completely fucked the AI for BOTH of the races that were supposed to be updated. People are mad about it and justifiably so. If ToT releases and fixes a ton of bugs and the new content is great you'll see a big influx of hopeposting just like we had with Thrones of Decay. I think it's more likely, though, that ToD was an outlier and we're going to get something on par with SoC and OoD because CA want to put out a minimum viable product and shift more resources away from the game. They already said they're dropping down to single-lord DLC "packs" after this one.
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Honestly just play the second game.
It runs better, looks better, has all the factions that matter and the map is big enough to be fun.
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>>722538652
muh mod support
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>>722538652
Does the AI still just literally turn off during ambush battles? Yeah, I thought so.
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>still can't play as the red duke or boris
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>wh3 forked from some ancient version of the wh2 code base
>development process that makes it physically impossible to release small patches
>everything takes forever
>everything breaks all the time with no qa
i would love to hear a ca insider talk about just what the fuck is going on in that company
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>>722538652
I'm downloading it now. What's a fun faction to start with?
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>>722538868
at least it has working factionwide AI, faggot.
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>>722507018
They completely abandoned the game to work on Hyenas and when Hyenas went tits up, they quietly abandoned the game to work on the next main total war.
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>>722538179
Just a couple of patches ago we had one of the best updates TWW has ever had and nobody gave a shit. Honestly they should just get the game to a stable state and leave it. It seems like no one wants any more updates
>>722538537
I understand that the complaints are justified but it's just so tiring. TWW3 is far from impossible to fix and are generally moving in the right direction. There have been so many similar waves of complaints lately (not just for CA games) that I find it difficult to even care. At the end of the day me not buying DLCs is far more important than all this fuss.
>>722538652
I really can't imagine playing TWW2, all the new features for the factions and maps are just too good. Those new random buildings they recently added alone make TWW3 better than TWW2.
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>>722530804
>bugs come and go
Anon, the AI of some factions is completely dead. They don't do anything.
And it has been that way for nearly a year.
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I want to capture and groom a skaven into being a sex slave
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>>722538868
This shit drives me up the wall, WH2 is one small patch away from being super good for the rest of all time but that patch will never come
I cannot trust Creative Assembly after they left this bug in and it looks like WH3 is a complete fuck up as well
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>>722539531
they'd probably like that. and you'd still treat it better than its previous owner.
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>>722509467
yes, form up on the edges of the map. Arti at the back, ranged nerds in the middle, meatshields up front. cav/air units on the sides forward to harass and split the enemy army so they hit u in waves instead of all at once.
I've just trivialized the combat for u, enjoy being bored.
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>>722537417
>>722538390
I like Legend, but when his solution to battles is to just cheese something or abuse the AI, I just click off.
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>>722540534
Is cavalry the most fun unit? I mean if you get it behind the others you can just hammer and anvil hellas style
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>>722539491
And this is such a big deal that everyone started talking about it mere days ago, eh?
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>>722540868
Cavalry was so fun in Medieval 2 they nerfed it into the ground on all other games
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>>722540868
cavalry is trash on the warhammer titles, they are better in WH3 but not by much
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>>722507018
I don't know why but I enjoyed Warhammer II more.
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>>722508937
>post-FASA battletech
lmao. people don't actually, do they?
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>CA does some weirdo anniversary event where they go over each game they made
>When they get to medieval 2 they don't even mention that M2 was never made by them and was instead made by an outsourced australian branch because they were too busy making empire yet they still want to take the credit
sasuga
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They need to go back to a tile Map since their AI for the campaign map has always been shit and turn the meta into doom stack vs doom stack like Civ 2.
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>>722539491
>completely dead
Works fine on my machine, settra is expanding his territory and lizardmen also own a province or two. Not that I care much, even if 8? 10? AI led factions out of hundreds don't work as intended why should I care? Just report and hope for the best, WH3 cannot be saved due to the sheer size of the game.
The objective truth is that WH3 is pretty impressive game, flawed but really impressive.
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>>722545570
You can mod doom stacks out.



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