Silksong thread.
>>722507494;_;
>>722507494>>722507592Kill all whores.
>>722507494There's already a thread idiot>>722506230
Accept what?
>>722507680Fight
>>722507494More like Suckdong
>>722507751No, that's AFTER you win the fight.
>>722508009Oh yeah, it's been a while since I've played HK.
>>722507971Yuck. Ick even.
>>722507971Me on the right
>>722507971>skinfucking disgusting
>>722507971Jesus Christ how horrifying
I think it's time to accept that the Lore of the series isn't meant to be scrutinized and overanalyzed
>>722508367it most definitely is because there's a lot of it and it wouldn't be there if it wasn't meant to be discussed.
>>722508412People said the same thing about rollslop
>>722508412A lot of shit is just in the game because they thought it looked cool.
>>722508493i don't know what that is.
>>722508541Shit Souls
>>722508516But 99% of the cool shit they add is then shoved into the lore somehow, and for some reason they manage to make it not a complete inconsistent mess.
>>722508412>it wouldn't be there if it wasn't meant to be discussed.I guess I should specify things like background art and character design shouldn't have logic applied. Why all these massive bugs? I don't know it looks cool, something ancient who cares.
>>722508597Dark Souls is good though.
>>722507971What causes this mental illness? Why do they slap races onto these characters? And why do they have to be so ugly?
>>722508703that i can agree on, but when team cherry goes out of their way to make sure the fucking floor is consistent with other lore shit, i don't blame people for going out of their way to try and analyze and tie literally everything together.
>>722508367Personally I'm just tired of fromsoft's revolutionary approach to telling a story by...not telling it, and how it has been a disaster for the gaming industry. I'm sure most people get the story in these types of games thru youtube videos instead of actually playing the game itself.>>722508620And this, yeah. Wisp thicket enemies were originally in greymoor and later got their own area
>>722508703And also "we designed our main character for a flash game then had to make every character match his style. Don't think too hard about Zote or all the vessel skulls and Monomon masks everywhere"
Clawline is optional to do Mount Fay.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC9LS9KuCJo
>>722508749Retard
>>722508703>giant statues of pilgrims in the lava of the Marrow?>I dont know, it looks cool.
>>722508808honestly i don't mind it because in a game like this all the little details of the story are not relevant to the gameplay but they're still there, so if you don't care about them they're neatly and unintrusively out of the way, but if you care then you can dive as deep as you want.if this shit was being pulled in an RPG or something where the plot is very much a part of the experience then that's a bigger problem.
>>722508935The lava came up from Deep Docks after the Haunting.
>>722508808Personally I'm just tired of zoomer cuckolds crying about minimalist storytelling because they're used to being drip fed slop via Tiktok
>>722508367>Silksong lore is almost entirely about the scarcity of silk>unattended silkspools everywhere>grand reeds still have silk resevoirs>enemies waste silk>npcs never shown gathering silk>Bell Beast gives you a silk heart for some reason
>>722509006Yeah, it's nice that it's out of the way,but I just think you can have a balance of both. Nine Sols which I played recently handled it pretty well where it has a story that's good and told through cutscenes which don't last too long and can also be skipped. It also has lore tidbits you can find along the way but it's supplemental to the story but not the entire story.
>>722509324all the silk spools are near the citadel iirc
The undertale/fnaf/roblox of metroodvanias.Truly only lovrd by redditors, furries, and pedophiles.
>>722509996NOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE A BASS!!!!!
>>722509996BASS'D
>>722508935The Marrow is a cut HK area originally called Forest of Bones. The aesthetic is fossils + lava.
>>722507971WTF WHERE IS MY CUTE BUGSHOTA???
>>722510390Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>722510543I am sorry, do you have eyes?It's even still called Forest of Bones in early Silksong world maps Team Cherry shared recently.
More like Metroonvania
>>722510543https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight/posts/1087708
>>722510049Being a bass is fine, actually.
>>722510390>>722510689>>722511219Fucking retard
>>722511353elaborate
>>722510543
>>722507971
>>722507494Can you make that nigga survive? How?
>>722512258No, he's scripted to die just like Sherma in act 3.
>>722512168>spiral sanctuaryUzumaki reference
>>722512258never sit at the Boner Bottom bench after killing the Tyrant
>>722510390>giant bug fossil the size of Pale Wyrm>"don't think about it"
>>722512875Literally the same as those giant skulls in Elden Ring, no explanation whatsoever, just a cool aesthetic
>>722510689the difference in art skill is really noticable when you put them next to each other
>>722513197>anti-soul gas GOOD
Are some of the crests Act 3 exclusive?
>>722513505Contrast and readability, you can barely make out the knight in the top image, whereas it's immediately obvious where Hornet is
>>722513735Shaman Crest is, others can be obtained whenever.
>>722513735Shaman crest you need the Silk Soar from Act 3.
>>722507971If I see another brown person I'm going to freak
>>722513505SS is still SOVL but more skillful
>>722514004
>>722514004>tfw Hornet says "Poshanka" without realizing she isn't allowed to say it
>>722514004It's not even about them being one color or another, the designs are just plain repulsive, they'd be just as terrible were they all fair-skinned...
>>722507971tumblrtrooncore
>>722514106
>>722507971>>722514156>"exotic" warrior trope>make her blackPretty racist
>>722514204https://files.catbox.moe/rwdtq3.jpg
I feel like I'm missing something in the Whisp Thicket. Is there really just a Mask Shard, boss, and then that one collectible at the top?
What's hotter the initial involuntary tentacle parasite infestation where it's writhing and hostile or the post-domestication tentacles where they are consensual and symbiotic.
>>722515089There's also a Craftmetal in there, but yeah, it's a tiny area all things considered.
>>722512168>Red Coral Gorge>Void Cult>Song Eater Lair>Lifeblood SpireWhy did they cut all the coolest sounding areas
>>722507971Trooncoded artstyle BUT I would let the nigga on the right crush my head between her monster thighs
>>722512989>Literally the same as those giant skulls in Elden RingI think those are from dead giants perchance
>>722515476Based
>>722515089A flea too.
>>722515562You mean the one that you find when you leave to go back to Greymoor? I got him.
>>722507494reminder that lace and hornet are both lolis
>>722507971honestly not as terrible like the old tumblrcore style art. I think it mostly looks bland because these guys look too "normal" to be cool adventurers. Makes them look like a bunch of random cosplayers and not like adventurer types
>>722515450Void cult is just the shamans, lifeblood spire got turned into the wormways, we all know waht ahppened to the Red Coral area.Song eater lair however sounds fucking awesome and I don't think it has been used or incorporated into something else.
>>722515714Hornet is hundreds of years old though.
>>722513197Silksong has a better level of detail but i like the color grading in Hollow Knight much more in most areas
>>722515950She's an immortal lolibaba
>>722515524If you extrapolate the size of those skulls to a full proportionate body they're like ten times larger than even the Fire Giant, those things are colossal. >>722515714>>722515950*lolibabas
I killed the Roachkeeper 2 times and he didn't drop the simple key. What do i do? I used the first one in a useless area and i need one for wormways.
>>722515983It looks amateurish to met. trad painter
>>722507680his dream cummies>>>722507971>hornet's most striking feature is her red cloak>constantly referred to as red maiden>trip into her memory is called "Red Memory">get a scene of her making her first special red cloak>no red WHATSOEVER on her designabsolute fucking drooling retard artist
>>722508846you need clawline to get the dash needle art, no?
>>722516096There's four total and four doors that need one. You'll find one later, it just might be a while.
>>722515983I wish Silksong had more areas with different colors. Sands of Karak should have stayed blue.
>>722516307Silksong actually has the "everything is grey and brown" problem retards think HK has
>>722516212you can sprint jump->bind at apex->glide and just about make it
>>722515950So is Lace
>>722516271I wanted it to kill the weaver because hunter doesn't help as a crest.
>>722516126To play devil's advocate the filename states that this is day 13 of this autism, so perhaps the other 12 iterations were all cloakedThose are also absolute dogshit chicken scratch art, it's probably made by some kid who barely knows what the fuck they're doing from a technical standpoint
>>722516360oh really? anyway, anyone else thinks that the double jump kinda ruins the platforming?
>>722516519Yeah I didn't want to touch how puke inducing anything else was. The lack of red on hornet was enough to make me discard it.It is her DEFINING striking feature
>>722516608no more than clawline (with weavelight) or float doesthere are sections of mt fey where even without double jump you don't have to do the "intended" jumps because you can just claw->glide->claw repeatedly and make the distance
I've been playing act 3 for a couple of days and it really feels like they had some plot beats and some bosses they didn't know how to fit into the game so they just decided to forget they were making a metroidvania instead of cutting stuff.
>>722516684>DEFINING striking featureHer horns
>>722516962act 3 feels thrown together when considering how big a deal it should be inverted castle was much more fun
>>722517091Her exhibitionist tendencies
>>722515714Actually shakra is the loli, while both hornet and lace are hags
>>722507971shakra is CLEARLY middle eastern, like a gerudo from zelda
>>722513505It's light and heat from the lava you troglodyte.
>>722507971That Lace one feels racist as fuck for some reason
>>722507971Black vitilago.Everytime
>>722514156If that's facepaint, it's based. If it's vitiligo, it's cringe
Can I get all the maps of the areas in Act 2 or are there some Act 3 exclusive ones?
>>722507971>becomes artist for the sole purpose of virtue signallingPeople like this disgust me
why was the fight against silkmother so easy?
>>722521649no contact damage, only fairly simple attacks that Hornet's movement is more than strong enough to avoid while constantly jump slashing so it is over really fast and you don't get many chances to fuck up
>>722521649Lore reasons
>>722521773>no contact damagedas probably it. I hate contact damage
>>722520989There is one map Act 3 exclusive you find at the edge of Greymoore past the crow area if you found the Green Prince.
>>722521992radiance didn't have contact damage either.
>>722522032Does found just mean that I freed him from his cell?
what was the hardest boss in your opinion? what about the most annoying?hardest was karmelita for me, most annoying probably groal
>>722507971zesty
>>722521091>projects motives onto a stranger over the internetPeople like this disgust me
Act 3 is too annoying bros. Why does every enemy need to have 9999 HP
Hornet is written the way I wish Samus was written.
>>722522960Have you played Metroid Dread?
>>722507680>glass him
>>722522597lost lace kicked my ass and was the only boss that forced me to take a break.
>>722522597Same as yours, but I ended up cheesing Groal.
>>722508367Lorefriends can't help themselves.
>>722508935Ummm akshually that's from ye olde pharloome when it was a bing chilling angkor watSource: I saw another statue like that and it gave me vibes.
>>722514916I will now fuck that spider.
>>722507494Hornet is a fucking slut and that ruined te game for me.
Currently doing the coral tower and I will just cheese it with the achitect crest. How can I ensure I do not lose shards when I have to try again?Also what is the best setup for this garbage of game design?
the heart fights are challengingalso how can i fight trobbio again, he wont appear in the place i fought him before
>>722523541I do like the idea of a pre-Weaver stone citadel where they just worship the act of the pilgrimage and maybe worship the lava of Deep Docks before industrialization.But this dude does seem to still suggest the first-children (Weavers) built the stone citadel
>>722523842Look through the quest boards. He has a quest that will tell you to go there.
>>722507494>finally get inside ruined chapel>snail jewsi should've known but maybe act 3 will show me the real truth later on
>>722522753im tired of the arena battles...
>>722523228Fuck off.
>>722510390>>722510689every time I see cut content, it looks great, why does TC keep nerfing themselves?
>>722523909I 100%ed the game, but where the fuck is this thing? Is this a steel soul exclusive?
>>722522672When you know, you know.
>>722523751>seeking companionship several times over the course of an immortal life is being a slut nowI guess once a relationship is over, even if it's through no fault of your own, you just have to be single and lonely forever huh?
>>722510689Man, I already thought Hollow Knight overdid it with post processing effects, Silksong is even worse and the foreground parallax stuff gets kind of obnoxious when it hides shit
Just for the Coral Tower alone I hope this game doesn't get GOTY.
>>722525229why? shit was fun. i was worried it would have no checkpoint though in which case it would've immediately gone to shit for me.
I need art of hornet in her fancy hallownest outfit.
>>722525229this but bilewater
HOLY KINO
>>722525428Just don't fall down
>>722521649I don't know but I hate it. She's supposed to be a god. People say its because she's the Hollow Knight of this game but that doesn't even make sense because there's no true final boss directly after her fight
>>722525229It was easy but I was sad how one of the most beautiful areas in the game is just a shitty gauntlet.
>wandering into the wastes to make herself worthy of true loveHollow Knight 3 protagonist
>>722507494Who the fuck is that?
>>722525303It only gets a checkpoint after the third gauntlet.>>722525428I rather do the whole Bilewater experience again than go through this shit. Hopefully this game does not get GOTY.
>>722525575>It only gets a checkpoint after the third gauntlet.i know.
>teleports behind you nothing personnel stylewhat the fuck is this shit
>>722525229i never died in the gauntlet but I died once to the boss. it was fun
>>722525726Git gud
>>722525229I haven't done Coral Tower yet, how does it compare to the High Halls gauntlet? Thought I was going to have to drop the game here for a second.
>>722526181oh what the fuck how did you get shakra to show up?
>>722526181Imagine 3 different gauntlets with the 2nd being just like High Halls and the 3rd one being even worse. If you fail at any you have to do it all over again.
>>722526327hacks
>>722526181it's longer but way more forgiving because it's separated in 4 parts (5 if you count the boss) with easy enemies for silk refill, each gauntlet has a similar little mini-intermission with easy enemies for you to breathe and heal, and the enemies don't come in groups of a trillion at a time. honestly it's very well paced, the only part that was trying to filter me was a brief period where there's no ground and i totally forgot about the clawline.
>>722526327If you do her quest she will be in the area and you can ask her to join you in the fight.
>>722526327Do her quest before you get there, she will be in the room before and ask you if you want helpI did all the optional shit I could before doing the threefold melody
>>722526457>>722526424 I totally lost track of her after mount fey. man this game has so much shit to find it's insane. I'm almost in act 3 and I still only have 6 masks and no emergency mask or whatever
>>722526350Is it required for 100%?
>>722526574>emergency maskThat's from one vendor hidden behind a wall
>>722526574Do you a Simple Key?
>>722526574Her quest isn't complicated. You just have to get all her maps and eventually there will be a quest to go to Bilewater.
>>722526679oh ok I know where that is but idk where (I'm assuming) the last key is. I just used one to let the gay grasshopper out of gay jail so that he could disappear instantly
>>722526812Sounds like you haven't found one specific area. Keep going past the Pinstress in Blasted Steps
>>722526574>I still only have 6 maskshow the hell, i was finding mask pieces left and right when i got to act 2 (actually one of my "complaints", upgrades are too act 2 loaded).
>>722526812Have you found Wormways?
>defeat pinstress achievement >21.8% of players have this achievement
>>722526918I only need one more piece to get another full mask >>722526894fucking forgot about that. my stupid ass just realized 25 hours in that I had map markers without having to buy them from shakra because I'm a cheap ass. stupid and stubborn don't be like me>>722527061yeah I went through that whole area. if there was a key in there I must have found it, but I cleared that area as soon as I got the double jump and could reach the needolin door
>>722527096I dropped the game as soon as I climbed back from the void
>>722509324>Bell Beast gives you a silk heart for some reasonHe was playing with it, and got tangled, like a cat with ball of yarn
>>722527227Did you use the Simple Key on the locked door in Wormways? That's where the extra health Tool is.
>>722527516oh yeah for sure
>>722526376I spent too much time agonizing over how to "approach" the Coral gauntlet when really the play was just to get good. Watch the enemies, dodge their attacks, get your hits in when you can. It was very fair and not really all that difficult ultimately. Also it helped that I came back after getting the final needle upgrade, everything taking one fewer hit is huge
>>722527624it's just that it's so long that people (including me) start getting impatient and try to blast through the start which causes more frustration since these things are hard to bruteforce. but if you play it right, it's one of the best designed gauntlets in the game because it doesn't feel like random bullshit go like the high halls gauntlet does (and the terrain actually changes so it feels more like the colosseum).
Please tell me there is a Bellway in Bilewater.
>>722527820i'd guess the vast majority of people find bilewater's bellway before they ever find its map.
>>722527624I just beat it and it was actual trash. The boss after that was ok.
>>722527820There is||It's at the very end of the Act 1 part of this area||
>>722527921I have the map but not the Bellway.;_; I entered through Sinner's Road and this, what I'm assuming, the last major area I have left on the map.
>>722528005discordfag...
>>722528073There is more entrances to Bilewater. One more connects it to Sinner's Road, which is where the Bellway is.
If you are having trouble with Coral Tower then your brain is suffering from the tool abuse crutch. Use your fucking silk skills. They deal so much damage and recharge quickly.
>>722528240>strawmanyou already lost
>>722527096Some people don't even find act 3 because of the arbitrary requirement to go back to first chapel and speak to the ornery dude after you've already done all the hidden requirements.Then even bothering to go back up the mountain to fight her probably turns off a lot of people.Further, the charm you get for beating her is relatively useless considering in most cases you seem to get better damage just timing attacks carefully instead of any gain you'd get from a faster charge.I found it useful to pair w/ the architect crest though for one of the dream heart sequences (I'm looking at you, fucking coral tower).
>>722527096I treated this fight like Lace 2 and just sat around waiting for her to do the one attack that was really easy to punish
>>722528337>Some people don't even find act 3 because of the arbitrary requirement to go back to first chapel and speak to the ornery dude after you've already done all the hidden requirements.It also gets added to the wish board in Bellhart
>>722528337Yeah, but it's a fun fight.
>>722527921The way they hid the map is so retarded, there is no visual indication from what I could see. I guess it is an endgame area but shit, I just want to know where I fucking am
>>722528603eh the area of bilewater that's locked behind double jump is so big and the accessible area so small i didn't really have much problem with it. it's like a straight path that goes up left down.
Last judge, what a gay ass fight.
>>722528725
I just discovered that you can dash downwards when midair.
Replaying HK after 100%ing SS.HK is overall a lot more compact, and I think it's more enjoyable from moment to moment. SS dilutes itself towards the end.
>>722524962above the bench near the sacred cylinder in the vaults
>>722528990HK also has better atmosphere and more SOVL. I was waiting for an 'entering City of Tears for the first time' in Silksong but it never came.
>>722529131Yeah now that I think of it breaching the Citadel was pretty anticlimactic
>>722528990It insists upon itself.
>>722529131Too bad it didn't come for you but I got that when I got to Choral Chambers, that part where the music is very muted and everything's quiet and dead and then it bursts to life with the music fully kicking in, chef's kiss.
>>722508367There's no screen in Silksong nearly as beautiful.
>>722529221Silksong does, yes.
https://youtu.be/EsgSvnL9saMWhat the fuck is wrong with modders
>>722529414out of all the hollow knight areas you're using that shit as an example? the fucking bellhart bench is prettier than that.
>>722529475It is unreal how much I hate the modding scene for these games.
>>722528337i just got to lace 2 last night. i did all the sidequests i could find. how do i make sure i get act 3?
>>722529606get a house in bellhart. you can either purchase it or (don't know the requirements) talk to the bell dude and he'll gift it to you.
>>722529475This is a really well designed boss in my opinion, better than Groal for sure
>>722529606You need to get all the fleas, get the four soul items, get your house in Bellhart, and do most of the town quests.
>>722529606Make sure you talk to the priest at Songclave and get the Silk and Soul quest
>>722528990I think one of the biggest issues with silksong is that while the map is bigger, the amount of powerups generally remained the same, some of them became less important (memory shards become worthless if you've already maxed the crest you like) and as a result you spend long stretches of the game not growing any stronger.I'd say SS is just diluted to fuck and back.
>>722529746>You need to get all the fleasNot all, just enough>get the four soul itemsAren't there only 3?
Did Silksong have any locales as pretty as this?
>>722529475lmao watching this made me a little suicidal
>>722529592I enjoyed the Pale Court mod for Hollow Knight.
>>722529256yes agreed fully. amazing score for that area
>>722529475Is Hornet massively sped up too or am I misremembering how insane Waderer's attack speed is?
>>722529829Nope.
>>722529794>Not all, just enoughYeah, my bad I think it's 22.>Aren't there only 3?Yeah, I was including the Snare Setter in that.
>>722529794There's a secret fourth one but you gotta suck it outta my dick
>>722529867Wanderer is just like that it's more overpowered than you remember
>>722529829My candidates are some parts of Cogwork Core, and Coral Tower.
>>722529672i have a shit tonne of the side stuff done, maybe all of it. i've got 60 hours lol>>722529751is this after lace 2?
>>722529829I feel like Silksong is pretty shit at showing scale too, aside from the Choral Chambers
>>722529985>is this after lace 2?Yeah
>>722529829
>>722529606im not sure what the requirements are but for me>house in bellhart>did all the board wishes>found the memorandium big flea and the warrior flea in the putrid ducts>got the flea caravan to the pale lake and you get all the remaining locations of the fleas from the warrior flea via paid mapspriest man at the first shrine will call you and give you a the silk and song wish, then you fight the sex queen once more
You guys gotta admit this bit was cool
Knight's moveset is so much better than Hornet's it's just insaneBetter spells, WAY better charged attacks, very enjoyable melee, what the fuck did these aussies spend 7 years on?The only thing i miss from Silksong is clawline.Hell with charms you can make Knight permanently sprint around nearly as fast as Hornet with no inertia.
>>722529829i think deep docks looks amazing.
>>722529131Choral Chambers might be the best ambience track on the entire OST from both games, Cogwork Core and Bilewater are up there also. Honestly, I don't know how you could possibly say there's no soul in Silksong. Most of the Citadel areas are oozing soul from the OST alone if nothing else.
>>722516608platforming ruis this game. it is the most atrocious part in the game design. endless vertical platforming with extremely long runbacks, forcing you to memorize the shit. I feel so sorry for console players
>>722530362I feel like shellwood is slept on
>>722530362Citadel is INCREDIBLY boring compared to City of Tears. Cogwork Core is literally the only area where it gains a semblance of soul.
>>722530371i literally can't think of any platforming bit that is like that except for the final stretch up to the surface. everything else is super mild platforming.
>>722530371>I feel so sorry for console playersThe fuck does this even mean, the vast majority of PC players are likely playing this on controller, and there are no "long runbacks" in Silksong worth complaining about. If you say Last Judge or Groal I know not to bother replying to you again though.
>>722529201Reaching Citadel feels like a shittier version of entering Mother of Mothers in Blasphemous or finding it abandoned and buried in 2.
>>722511497He goes into random threads and accuses people of lying. When called out he drops a couple of schizo replies and disappears again.
>>722528990because SS is so fucking LOOOONG I don't think Metroidvanias lean well into a 60+ hour game
>>722530447bilewater and mount fay. its okay though, I didn't have to suffer through it
Reminder to throw salt at all snails you see
how did you feel about that guy peeping on hornet?I felt disgusted and jealous
>>722530438I don't even remember shellwood a month after playing the game. I still remember fungal wastes.
>>722530471>there are no "long runbacks" in Silksong worth complaining about
>>722529131>I was waiting for an 'entering City of Tears for the first time' in Silksong but it never came.>Finally almost feel this entering Coral Tower>It's just a shitty gauntlet
>>722530691>does not name any
>>722529781i wish there was more cool stuff to do with the powers you get in act 2>>722529829it's my hope in the dlc we'll get more cool areas. i think it'd be a disservice with how good hornet's movement is to not make some more mid/late/post game areas to dick around inwhisp thicket needs a buff, bilewater/far fields/karak/wormways all feel like they should lead to another location. certain areas could be expanded.i know the game is bigger but it's been 60 hours and it's flown by
>>722530440not really, it looks incredible. the only thing city of tears has in its favor is having a central landmark like the hollow knight statue which i admit i think would really elevate choral chambers.
>>722530616Why do snails ruin everything?
After my second playthrough, I can confirm that Karmelita is a fucking bitch and I'm glad she got fat and crippled.
who would win in a fightend game hornet or end game little ghost, all endings are canon
>>722530471>"What is 2+2? And don't tell me 4!"
>>722530861ghost obviously, hornet is strong but not the literal embodiment of a god consuming infinite void
>>722530950he doesn't have silk tho
>>722530471groal's is absolutely worth complaining about, verdania's too. but that's about it and it's not even really a "platforming" issue.
>>722528337It's not even unlocking act 3 which is the hard part. If you look at the achievements 32% of people have beat GMS, and 28% of people have started Act 3, that's almost 90% of people who've gotten the base ending who've gone on to Act 3. Now if you look at the achievement for beating the game, it's suddenly down to 18%, so about 64% of those people went on to actually beat the game and there's 36% of people who either haven't beaten it yet or quit.Act 3 does demand more level of skill than Act 2, so I didn't even realize Act 3 was controversial because I was able to get through it pretty smoothly, then I went online and saw people were having a miserable time with it. Because it does raise the skill floor compared to act 2, so if you beat act 2 through the skin of your teeth then you're suddenly thrown into act 3 demanding a level of skill that you might not be able to reach, and that's just not fun.
>>722530861Ghost has the iframe dash so he wins.
>>722529980Coral Tower was kino, wish it was its own dedicated zone.
>>722530797City of tears actually has intricate interiors, absolutely god tier atmosphere with rainy windows everywhere, feels like a city with several distinct districts all serving their purpose including a residential area. Citadel is fucking B O R I N G. Samey long gilded corridors, sometimes with spikes added to them. Probably the most boring archive level i remember in metroidvanias. Underworks feel literally the same, just smeared in black shit.
>>722508367>>722508808>>722509324>>722523479the thing with HK1's plot/lore is that it was perfectly fine to overanalyzeit was very fleshed out and justified, very little was vague, everything was well connected and every place had lots going onIts just silksong in particular that feels so comically lacking in comparison
>>722531002>>722530937>>722530691>he didn't find it
Hornet sure was lucky the Weavers left her their powers in the order they did, she'd be screwed otherwise
>>722530861>all endings are canonGhost, easily, because he's the master of the fucking void, the ending of Silksong had the Everbloom destroyed and the only thing keeping the void from consuming Hornet was the little ghost keeping it at bay.If it's "playable Knight in the exact moment right before he lands the killing blow on Absolute Radiance and becomes Void Given Form And Focus" then probably Hornet simply because she has more ranged options and mobility to avoid Knight's. But the moment the shell comes off and he becomes one with the Void, it's over.
>>722531048i don't know how you can defend groal's runback even if you find the hidden bench, it takes over a full minute if you do the runback perfectly. but like i said, the issue is that the other retard said it's a "platforming" issue.
>>722531048Even with the hidden bench the Groal runback is excessive because of the ass gauntlet.
>>722507971Hollow knigga
>>722530861At best, Hornet becomes grandma silk 2.0Knight is the personification of a force that ate grandma silk for a breakfastYou tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8SPDrjqTAIt's criminal that Phantom doesn't get to sing her bossfight like Karmelita.
>>722531042i love both a lot but you can't say city of tears has intricate interiors then say that choral chambers is just a bunch of corridors lol. most of your time in city of tears you're just walking through copy pasted stretches of this shit.
>>722531123It's not THAT bad. So you have to pogo a few times and clawline over some of those mossy guys. Big deal
>>722531325If it's not a big deal then what is the point other than wasting time? There is not a single argument for the runback existing.
>>722531306I see more actual level design on this picture alone compared to all bland ass citadel corridors put together.
This game is just full of humiliation rituals
lowk dissapointed Phantom doesn't change in act3, same thing as always , no reaction nothing
>>722529131>>722529781A lot of the elements in SS do feel half baked, specially when Act 3 drops the ball super hard. Silksong is a lot more engaging, but HK is the better game-experience overall.
>>722531306>All the detail and variation put into the each hallway roomSOVLCity of Tears felt like an actually inhabited space within the game world, Choral Chambers just feels like a video game level.
>>722525480Does she have an arm or not?
>>722531464Team Cherry was on a tight schedule, please understand.
>>722531410>3 tiny hallways stacked together are more intricate than picreli see you're doubling down on saying stupid bullshit to try to rationalize prefering city of tears instead of simply admitting you like city of tears more because of completely subjective opinions, which would be perfectly fine and respectable.
>>722531612>Silksong is a lot more engagingI wouldn't say so. It's a slog most of the time.
>>722531679>are more intricate than picrelMore intricate than a gigantic empty space? What were you trying to prove?
>>722531693Not really, the combat's fun and the movement's fun. Where's the slog in that? Unless you're constantly dying, I don't see how it's a slog. It's a joy to play
>>722531679Yeah I get liking City of Tears more but if someone's unironically trying to say it has better level design to justify it that's just completely retarded. The most interesting part of City of Tears design wise is the outside part with the big guards and that's about it.But I unironically doubt that guy's trying to argue seriously and is just wasting your time.
>>722531306I was going to point out to the other guys that Choral Chambers has plenty of laid out interiors that feel like a lived in space, and the reason why it doesn't seem like it is because everything's covered in silk and debris. And in doing so I realized, that's what City of Tears was missing. Everyone's a mind-controlled zombie, there should be more debris, more dilapidation, everything feels too clean for the state the city's populace is in.
>>722531831Because hornet's skill set except for clawline is a huge downgrade from the knight's.
>>722531943man shut the fuck up
>>722531943I just find that a baffling statement. From the moment you get the dash the gameplay is already above hollow knights
>>722529954>>722529867Even for wanderer that seems faster than normal.
>>722532009Truth hurts.
>>722507494this game is tumblr coded innit.
>>722529131Entering the Citadel, or specifically the Choral Chambers when the music starts, is literally that moment but amped up to 11. Maybe not if you enter through the back entrance and miss all the setup?
>>722531943The fact that Hornet can actually fucking run by itself proves you wrong.
>>722532021You can literally make Knight nearly as fast with a charm, without terrible inertia.
>>722531843 (Me)>and is just wasting your time.If it didn't become obvious by now by him trying to say that a bunch of stacked hallways is more interesting than rhythmic platforming, it sure is now.I'm guessing it's also the same dude that's trying to pretend Hornet's moveset is more limited than the Knight's which is like saying MMX's movement is worse than Mega Man's moveset. Supported by the fact he can't be arguing for both City of Tears and HK's moveset at the same time since he's on cooldown.
>>722532021He means she doesn't have iframes out the ass.
>>722531306NTA but this is the issue, and something you notice right away going from SS to HK. The backgrounds, the levels, the ways the merge into the world are infinitely better in HK. Each area in HK has enemies that are adapted to the level. Think of Crystal caves and the laser bugs that shoot through walls. City of Tears has the regular citizen enemies which pose no threat, but they populate the place. The Royal Waterways has the flukes that split into two after you kill them and they are meant to be disgusting. Silksong has very few enemies that feel like they "belong" to their respective areas apart from design alone, but on a gameplay perspective.
>>722532152>a bunch of stacked hallwaysThat's a nice way to describe the gigantic wasted spaces of the Citadel.
>>722531135groal is the only run worth complaining about.with the bench it's fine. problem is finding the bench, an anon told me about it before i got to bilewater. i feel like the devs could guide you to it a little better
>>722507971Please dont post gore
>>722531943Just objectively wrong, if for no other reason than the fact that Hornet can ledge grab.
>>722532395
>thieves won't attack you if you have the thief's markI suppose this one is obvious as the charm says so but I don't think I've seen anyone mention it
>>722532325You spelled City of Tears wrong.
>>722526181None of the gauntlets in the game even compare to the one in High Halls. I'm a dumbass so that was my first melody, I only had two nail upgrades, and I didn't have Shakra or Garmond and Zaza to help me, so maybe that was the reason I found it so hard, but every gauntlet after that felt like a breeze. Took me way more tries than any boss in the game.
>>722532401This is literally just a matter of how you position your ledges in the game. Ledge grab is just an additional time-consuming animation.
I think the world design in HK is better but saying the Knight's moveset is better is genuine insanity
>>722532545okay that was a good one. i'm giving you a (You) for it.
>>722532318This. The way that the areas are connected in Silksong feel very random and don't flow very well. Hallownest feels a lot better conceptualized as a real place rather than a sequence of unrelated areas masquerading as a cohesive world.
>>722531002groal's runback is part of the boss and it's kinoverdania runback is short, did you forget to super jump?
>>722532545Incredible bait or retarded reductive argument you could apply to literally anything, you decide
>>722532494>actual corridors and interconnected passages instead of straight lines and enormous vertical tunnelsAiieeee
>>722532574it's just a troll anon. he'll make you mad for 5 minutes then you'll forget about him.
>>722532471
Dunno why people are complaining about Groal's runback. You just start at the Huntress hut, go to the right, drop down, and it's right there on the right again. :^)
>>722532664>n-no MY boring stretched hallways are better than YOUR boring stretched hallways
>>722532574>3 charged attacks (and they are not shit, unlike Hornet's, plus they generate a ton of soul)>3 powerful spells, each and every one of them completely BTFOs hornet's skills and tools>a source of iframes that can be weaponized>a ton of actually fun synergies via crestsHornet is in shambles
Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the lore in these games? I'm just a bug exterminating other bugs. That's enough motivation for me.
>muh iframesit always comes down to that, huh?
>>722532814The Silk skill that starts with Sharp has i-frames and be used offensively.
>>722532746>he posts a huge, empty space yet againJesus fuck anon this is embarrassing
>>722532870That's the good thing. The lore is extremely easy to ignore if you don't give a shit about it.
>>722532870You're missing a big part of the games.
>>722532814Hornet has weaponized iframes too, you just need to not suck at the game instead of using the dash button as a boring crutch.
>>722532915It fucking sucks in that regard because the iframes are not instant, unlike knight's dodge.Hell Descending Dark also has iframes, and it's also better than all Hornet's spells.
>>722532814So you like the Knight because he's overpowered and gets i-frames out the ass? Side note but it was such a good decision to remove the shade dash (I know Sharpdart exists but it sucks)
>>722532916>i-i prefer walking in straight lines in claustrophobic corridors doing fucking nothing instead of actually platforming and fighting enemies!!Yeah, we know you like Hollow Knight better because you are too scared to use the jump button kek
>>722507494Fuck you and fuck every brown tranny idiot that keeps shilling this indie slop. Fuck off to /vg/ with the rest of your troon friends.
>>722531943Ghost’s positives:>Dream Nail for EZ Magic>Cyclone Charge>Three Magic Spells with no strings attached via the Menu and Red Tool fidgetingHornet’s Positives>Less abuse with I-Frames>Stronger risk vs reward with Health recovering>Clawline>Better Dash Mechanics>Better Air Battle Mechanics I feel like I’m forgetting something with the both of them.
>>722532674>>722532471hope we get to genocide them too come act 4.I want Hornet at the end of her story to be sitting in her bellhome that she had towed to the city of tears, stroke a flea sitting on her lap and watch lace dissolve in the hot tub as she goes>remember the flies in that prison? sure am glad I killed all of them>what do you mean which ones? both of them you dumb bitch>and I eradicated the sniggers too, and those green fags>I killed the big flower keeping that forest alive too>man it feels good to be the daughter of hallownest, now go fetch me a rasher
>>722532589>Hallownest feels a lot better conceptualized as a real place rather than a sequence of unrelated areas masquerading as a cohesive worldoh man ss really is ds2i still really like ss tho
>>722533063Brownoids don't play indie
>>722533056>YET ANOTHER giant straight hallway
>>722533056>>722532746>>722532494>>722531679>>722531306seeing them laid out like this, yeah choral chambers level design wise completely blows city of tears out of the water, no question.
>>722533056i wish there were more main areas like this
>>722533148Shut the fuck up tranny filth. Don't ever talk to me scum
>>722533008SAAR BLUDDY BENCHODplease being understand needfully our desire to ROLL saarsurrendering of iframes you will be doing SAAR!game needing many many more iframes for belong to the roll u BASTERD BITCH
>>722533093>having shittier moveset is better, actuallyAlso Knight's heal was harder to pull off, especially in a rapid succession. At the same time it was interchangeable with casting so it was better designed too.
>>722533186>another tranny mindbroken by Souls
>>722533164I've been following your posts throughout the whole thread and it's kinda funny that the shitposting angle you decided to stick with was "cramped hallways with 0 platforming are superior to wide hallways with actual platforming".
>>722533172City of Tears has more sovl though.
>>722532589>>722533106I don't know how you can come away from both games with this opinion. The Citadel by itself is clearly more cohesive as a real place than basically every other area of both games worlds. But all the ways into and around the Citadel make sense as well, and so many areas have well telegraphed connections between them as well.
>>722507592Woah I never noticed Hollow Knight in the background there. Poor guy got trapped in a house.
>>722533164Oh yeah we know there's none of those in City of Tears lmao
>>722533263>especially in a rapid successionWhy would you do that when 95% of the game does one health
>>722533326>m-muh soulTranny hands typed this post
>>722533373>I don't know how you can come away from both games with this opinion.Why is there a place made entirely of bell matter that connects to a woodland area, a town that has silk raining from the Citadel above it, and a subterranean cave system?>so many areas have well telegraphed connections between them as well.Name three (3) examples of this.
>>722533324My argument is "crampled hallways with elevators, actual level design and enemy placement are better than straight featureless hallways".
>>722533517not him but literally all bottom areas (the marrow, deep docks and far fields) connect very neatly with each other, and so do sinner's road, bilewater and putrified ducts.
>>722531943I prefer HK quite a bit but I can't imagine thinking Hornet's skill set is worse than the Knight's. She's a lot more fun to pilot.
>>722532736this is going to be patched
>>722533668>actual level design and enemy placementWow such enemy placement, much level design. So much better than pogoing on bells or jumping on timed platforms while dodging enemies!
>>722533373>The Citadel by itself is clearly more cohesive as a real place than basically every other area of both games worlds. But all the ways into and around the Citadel make sense as wellyeah bro i really enjoyed how you have the blasted steps as an orange windy sand area and then right above it you have ice freezing blue lake mount faymasterful world cohesion right there
>>722533517>Why is there a place made entirely of bell matter that connects to a woodland area, a town that has silk raining from the Citadel above it, and a subterranean cave system?Because the Citadel was built right on top of everything and is thus fucking everything up by its existence? You've got Moss Grotto, Shellwood, Wisp Thicket, Hunter's March, Far Fields, and later Verdania all as lush areas with varieties of their own vegetation. Greymoor is fucked up because its getting the runoff from the Underworks and Bilewater. Karak is desiccated because of the water demands from the Citadel, which also explains the Blasted Steps right below it. The Marrow and Deep Docks connect obviously with each other. I guess the only thing that's a legitimate complaint is why there's a snowy icy area in only one section of the map that isn't itself connected to the actual surface, but that's it.
>>722533858>So much better than pogoing on bells or jumping on timed platforms while dodging enemies!Yes.You retarded Mexican shitskin.
>>722533668dude the fucking vents in choral chambers have more level design than any part of city of tears.
>>722533954Your skin is brown.
>>722515938I suspect that Song Eater was retooled to be Groal
>>722533905Based
>>722533954don't get overzealous now just because you're arguing with a schizo, there was a bunch of cool interconnected design in city of tears
>>722526747Because I say so!
>>722533927>has to resort to saying "a-actually it's better when you just move forward in a straight line doing nothing instead of actually doing something you nigger!!!!" to keep the shitposting goingKEEEEEEK thanks for playing.
>>722533903You know there exist places in our real world that have deserts sitting below snowy mountains?
>>722525857It's crazy how slow this game seems when I watch other people's gameplay
Citadel doesn't have this so it loses by default
>>722534137I admit that you're a retarded spic who wouldn't know good game design if it shoved a burrito into your greasy brown face, yeah.
>>722534182the music does a lot toolike for widow/sinner the music gives you half the tempo of the whole fight
>>722533903yeah?
So grindle just took all my rosaries...am i just fucked?
>>722530287>innocent seeming doggo raped the centipede and its babies burst out like AlienThat's terrifying
>>722534197Lurien's fap material?
>>722534214>i-i-i-*sob* i know you're raping my ass but ermm you SPICI wonder why you didn't like Choral Chambers though, it also has the stellar level design City of Tears has that you love so much: long corridors with 0 terrain variation and an enemy here and there.
>>722534274Bros Grindle just took Hornet's virginity, I think she fucked
>>722534272It is a well known fact that Earth has bad worldbuilding.
>>722534331>wetback is having faggot fantasies
>>722531846I disagree.The rain and music already goes far enough into setting up a mournful atmosphere for the City, actually showing destruction would over do it and hinder the sense of seeing how grand the City is compared to the rest of Hallownest (especially strengthened if you opted to explore Deepnest after Mantis Lords) and it aids in imagining the City as it would have been, helping to create a kind of nostalgia for a time and place you cannot visit.Sure, it's not realistic but artistically I prefer it how it is.The Citadel is going for something completely different.You aren't meant to mourn it, you're meant to hate the system by the time you get there.
Where's the bathroom in this place
>>722533106In a way, SS has fallen into the eldenringfag category of games, where the opinions are divided into "This is pure garbage" for shitters and "Git gud" for niggers who won't engage with the genuine issues the game has. I'll say it before I get called a contrarian. HK is a great game and experience, while SS is an inferior experience, but a lot more fun to play.
>>722534394>filipino nigger ran out of arguments to shitpost with
I hate that Hornet just leaves the door to her bellhome open when she goes to sleep.BTW, I'm in act 2 and got all spool fragments and am up to 8 hp and 1 mask shard. Is it possible to get the last three in act 2?
>>722534531What's the matter beaner, no more faggot fantasies? Fucking homo ass queer, I'd break your fucking neck
>>722522960God please no. Hornet is so fucking boring.Samus in Fusion is how Samus should be written: A jaded thoughtful hero who still pulls up her britches and gets the job done at the end of the day.
>>722534472Only a matter of time until someone manages to mod Little Ghost and his full moveset into Silksong and we'll be having real fun then.
>>722534597Break my neck? You couldn't even break my back with that pathetic cock of yours.
>>722534472I think at least a little of Silksong feeling less like an experience is that it's a sequel and I already know the fundamentals of the game from HK. If SS was my first metroidvania I'd probably find it more dazzling.
>>722534597>filipino nigger now begging me to throw more basic sexual insults at him because he got hard when he took them literallyFlips really are mentally ill
>>722534652>he's a literal faggotWhy are Silksong fans all trannies
>>722534578No, there are mask fragments exclusive to act 3.
>>722534695Seriously why are you all trannies
>>722534706There's exactly one mask worth of shards locked behind Act 3 but you can get 9 masks in Act 2.
>>722534597>>722534652>>722534696>he now has to samefag and masquerade as the anon he was arguing with that completely raped his ass and wouldn't let him shitpost in peaceAlso notice how suddenly there was no more "HK moveset > Silksong moveset" posts in between!
>>722507971>lace black>Sherma not blackBad takes
i tried going back to Hollow Knight and I couldn't do itthe knight is at all times wading through molasses and dealing with awkward bullshit like that he starts sliding down a wall the moment he sticks to it. pogoing feels off. I just can't do it
>>722534809You are literally all troons what the fuck even is this fanbase
been a while since i last saw a shitposter so fucking assblasted that he had to completely go out of script to just throw "reeeee faggot tranny spic negro" mindlessly.
>>722534803>>722534706sickI still got karak, the under-docks area, and bilewater to do. If each one gibs me a shard I'll be golden
>>722534472>>722534694I played Hollow Knight for the first time about 3 weeks before Silksong came out, loved it for the most part. The early game atmosphere and exploration was stellar and I wish I could experience that again. Played Silksong on release and found the experience to be superior overall, though. HK definitely dipped in quality when you unlocked all the movement skills, the world felt empty and uninteresting after the first time experience. Silksong just slowly got better as time went on.
So that settles it, objectively Choral Chambers >>> City of Tears, even if you may like CoT's atmosphere better.
>>722534971You have been talking to yourself about tranny shit for the last hourIs this how all indieslop fanbases are
>>722534696>>722534809Oh I was not the anon you were throwing slurs at. I just wanted to get your riled up, and I know your cock squirmed at the thought of correcting my faggot hole.This is an advanced internet technique called "trolling"
>>722535038>HK definitely dipped in quality when you unlocked all the movement skillsBut that is when HK gets really good?
>>722535064>my opinion is objectiveAre you a retard?
>>722530861Hornet is just a hag with some tools up her sleeve.Ghost is literally and elderitch abomination, bred to kill gods.
>>722535121Well good job for shoving yourself into the reply chain to expose the filipino shitposter as a literal faggot by pretending to be me. That was not what I was expecting.
>>722535294Why are you still talking to yourself tranny
>>722535161I just saw all the comparisons between CC and CoT and it's very obvious which one is the better level.
>>722535150By the time you've unlocked everything, the oppressive, lonely atmosphere and first time exploration has been experienced and is far less impactful. The world stays fairly static outside of the obvious one time event that changes the crossroads and becomes much less interesting overall. It felt like I was ticking off a to-do list before going to finish the game, than doing any meaningful world interaction by that point.
>>722535389xhe appears to be talking to (you)
>>722535403I prefer Choral Chambers but acting like an opinion is factual just makes you look like some dipshit from Reddit
>>722507971Women would not get that big without steroids.Hell a warrorier wouldn't grow musvles like that. Look at MMA fighters, muscles don't suit someone as acrobatuc as Sharkra
>>722535569Sure. It's not that serious anon.
>>722535572Maybe xhe is a tranny?
>>722535513I don't know what retarded argument the tranny is having with itselfI'm just here to make fun of this troon fanbase
>>722535064nope
>shitposter gets btfo>tranny spammodern /v/ is reclining.>>722535150why does pure vessel have such a similar attack to rune rage?
>just another day on the shitposting treadmill
Who should the next silksong protag be?I think lace would be too similar to hornet. Zote was implied to be the original choice but I think they wouldn't go that direction now. I did see someone put forth the Grimmchild and I think thats actually a interesting option. I think the MC needs to have something "special" about them in every game so it feels like well they could go to.>>722535726It has a couple of attacks similar to GSM, we get pale nails from her and the vessel summons them too. I think its more that it uses soul, and silk is just soul in a different state
>>722535813If I had better video editing skills I would put a (You) in place of the rosary.
>>722535726>why does pure vessel have such a similar attack to rune rage?The Weavers in Deepnest probably helped turn him from that tiny little Vessel into what he became.There's silk spools in both PK's Workshop and in the Hidden Station.
>>722535860There can only be one
Hornet is a pedophile. She keeps her eternal loli wife around merely for fun
>>722535921I dont think we'd ever get to play anything but a bug. But I could see the next higher being we deal with being parasitic mushrooms
>>722535860i'd love to see the hollow knight as the next protag but he really is way too fucking big to be a working player. grimmchild would be interesting.
>>722507494Where does he go after this location? I never found him afterwards
>>722536009lace works the same as phantom and she could have saved both but phantom looks over 13 so hornet didn't care enough
>>722536175phantom doesn't have a humongous ass.
>>722535569He literally is a Reddit tranny. Also a gay spic.>>722535606>make yourself look like a fucking retard>get called out>I-IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS DUDEBRO LET'S JUST MAKE OUT
>>722513197The HK screen is obliously an early pass not yet polished since the level was cut from the game
>>722536068His upgrades could be just growing his arm back. You're right though, the game would need to in at least some ways become some kind of beatem up or 2d dmclike to accomodate how different the knight is. I do wish we got an allusion to him since the ending if silksong implies the godmaster ending where the knight gets out of the egg. I guess its possible hornet just straight killed him but I doubt it.
>>722536009Lace is probably older than hornet
>>722536175Hebepilled spidercel
>>722533517Greymoor > Sinner's Road > Bilewater > Putrified DuctsThe Marrow > Deep Docks/Hunter's March > Far FieldsBlasted Steps > Sands of KarakUnderworks > The Citadel in it's entirety
>he didn't unlock the secret ultimate crestpff, bunch of casuals
I hope one of the dlcs lets us play with this hronet for some superboss thats crazy fucked.
>>722536578>redditors will tell you this is the "bad" ending
>>722536578I remember when I got to this part and I was losing my fucking mind. I knew it wasn’t the real ending but I still thought it was hilarious on what was happening.
>>722536642Everyone's waiting for Hornet vs The Knight as the shade lord.
>>722536009And ShermaAnd Little Ghost
>>722536578>>722536679I did the bind first just to get the achievement and when I realized it was changing the UI I was so enthused. Its such a fucking cool way to integrate whats happening into the literal art assets of the game
>>722536679yeah it's really cool when the game's events start affecting abstract things like the HUD. it was really cool when in megaman zero 2 the pause menu was all broken and worn down during the intro stage.
karmelita should have been a mambo singerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JWxNqyIRtk
>>722533765The difference is huge. HK js unplayable to me.
>>722520952I think it's just light
>>722536676It's bad because you miss a good chunk of content. Imagine the DPS Hornet would have with 8 arms though
>pogo boss>it gets stunned>land next to it>mash attack, but realize I’m facing the wrong way>tap the direction toward the boss briefly, then resume mashing>Hornet’s direction doesn’t change because the nail swipe interrupts the turnaround animation>Hold the direction while pressing swipe to force the turnaround>Hornet walks into the boss and takes contact damageAm I just suffering from a bad case of Skill Issue? Or should Hornet’s attack direction default to the last horizontal direction she pressed, regardless of her current facing direction? Not having a one-frame turnaround looks smooth, but it sometimes leads to unintuitive interactions
>>722529475ok but since this is after the player would have done groal you would have unlocked the shortcut so clearly you'd run back from the ducts bell station and not the bench you run to groal from
>>722536684It'll probably just end with a bow rather than an actual defeat.
>>722536936this webm still cracks me up
>>722528493Only if you've already done the hidden requirementsMy ass had no idea I had to arbitrarly move the flea caravan for whatever reason to enter act 3
>>722537048just like with the nailmasters.>>722536967you made me test it right now and i have absolutely no issues with it. i press a direction and immediately after i attack and hornet attacks the correct way
>>722508265What's the spiky things on hornets health masks?
I love the color scheme of the mossy areas. They just look so god damn juicy.
>>722536676The absolute nonsensical design of the crest leads me to believe Hornet has no way to control the power and that Silk truly does just mantle her
>>722537218he is using the buck sneedy asshurt tool
>>722537218Indicator for double (quadruple) damage taken for higher damage output. It's one of the tools
>>722537342What ability would those metal weaver masks give you, if they were a tool/charm?
>>722537452The most powerful ability.You only take one mask of damage on contact
>>722537452take half damage, rounded down
>>722537452They'll tank one hit before actually doing Mask damage and if you wait long enough they regenerate so you can take another, who knows, Silk just sits there and takes it so I don't know how it would translate
>>722536967>>722537214 (me)i see what you mean now. i gotta be honest and say that i'm really trying hard to do it here because the attack animation is quick enough that once it's over i can then tap the direction and keep attacking, but yeah it's definitely there.
>>722537214Tap during a nail swing and release before the next nail swing. You get an instant turn if you’re pressing a direction when you press swing, not otherwise. Trying to flip directions mid-mash isn’t as fast as I’d like when I’m facing the wrong way during a punish window.
>>722537297Reminds me of Greenpath which is one of my favorite areas from HK.
>>722537452Hornet gets a fat milf ass. No mechanical differences.
>>722535860The Hollow Knight>but he's like 2 hornets and a ghost (not including his giant head)erm, he was big because of the infection. eeeerm, his real height is only a hornet long, and apparently he had incestuous sex with hornet but only one time!!! *then everyone claps*
>>722537732yeah honestly when you just get the proper rhythm down of pressing the direction before attacking this just isn't a problem. i'm sadly gonna have to say skill issue, but you're not crazy either.in fact you may be even be able to suggest it as a bug fix? it definitely feels like it'd be better for the game feel if hornet ends her attack by facing the direction the player last tapped.
>>722537297Verdania was also great for this reason. And so much of the world is fucked even before act 3 that its refreshing to have these lush vivid environments like Verdania and the Coral Tower. Shame that they're both completely dead in reality, but oh well.
>>722537838Just put him in a new kingdom full of huge fucking bugs and he'll be right at home.
>>722537892I just want the next attack to come out in that direction. When would you ever tap right and not expect to be facing right at the end of that unless you tapped left again?IDK maybe it has some impact during wall jump interactions or something, I know it can be finicky to jump off a wall, attack, and head back toward the wall. Maybe it needs to just be a ground override.
>>722531783sus
>>722531783lol at the statue crying, laying it on a bit thick
>>722537297I thougt far fields was meh in act 1 but unlocking the tall grass area in act 3 moved it up a couple notches. Loved the savannah type biome and wish the little ant niggas would let me go hunting with them
I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE I HATE FLEA DODGE
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>>722529475honestly doesnt look too bad. still think this would be easier than early beastfly 1
There's something deeply amusing about Sherma wearing the hood OVER the top of his cymbol hat. It's not like the cymbol is stuck to him because he takes it off in the hot spring.
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>>722538520Stop sucking
>>722538371I really liked the lava escape after the gauntlet in far fields, probably because I didn't have double jump yet, but I agree that the extended zone is a lot better.
>find almost all the fleas on my own>flea caravan still saying there's more fleas out there>relent and buy the markers from the samurai flea>there's two i missed by being a complete idiot>get them>caravan says there's STILL fleas out there>ok maybe there's another area even later on>go through almost all of act 3, find no more areas or fleas>caravan still says there's more fleas>what the fuck is my game bugged or what>zoom into the map and slowly pore over every single nook and cranny, maybe i missed an icon>find nothing>whatever i guess>eventually while i backtrack i remove the leftoverpins i have on the map>remove a long-standing pin i had in choral chambers basically since i first got there>it was perfectly covering the marker of the last flea i never found>caravan games immediately start upman are you fucking kidding me lol
>>722538592He probably saw the snail dude was wearing over his hat so he assumed that's how it's worn
>>722538608TELL THAT BIG FAT FLUFFY BASTARD TO STOP BREAKING MY FUCKING PLATFORMSOR AT LEAST TELL WHOEVER THE FUCK IS OPERATING THEM TO GET THEM UP FASTER BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES A FUCKING ETERNITY FOR THEM TO APPEAR AND BY THEN I'VE ALREADY HIT THE GROUND
>>722538728Just pretend you're playing Flea Bounce for a few seconds.
>>722538728NO? FLOOR? HUEHUEHUEHUE
>>722538728Abuse clawline
>>722538805Now tell Lace about Phantom.I truly wonder how she'd react
>>722538805Worthless tranny hands made this post
>>722538805I have dyke fatigue, but these two I don't mind
>>722538728If the flea breaks them all on his first pass, you will have plenty of time.If he breaks one on his second pass, then you needed to land on that before he breaks it and rejump. This means you must judge the relative heights of both him and the platforms correctly.Also, you can pogo him in a pinch.
>>722538728Double jump + hover always lasts long enough from break to respawn. What will get you is if you’re on a low platform and he spawns high; you have to single jump over him, retouch the platform, and THEN jump>DJ>hover on his return pass because he doesn’t break it until the return pass.
>every time lace is spoken about or spoken to she is explicitly referred to as a child>trannies and normies keep lusting after her and/or shipping heri'm noooticing
>>722525726>harder than the dream bosswhy doe
>>722538520If you stand at the side of a platform, vertical fleas can’t hit you, only angled and horizontal onesFor any platform height, there are only two flea heights that can hit you while standing; a flea will not collide with your horns, your hitbox ends at your face. You can avoid TONS of fleas by short hopping to the most recently spawned platform, walking to the edge, and holding still.
Favorite NPC? Worst NPC?Hard mode: no Sherma, Shakra or Garmond.Personally I really liked Styx despite being secondary at best. Vog is the only NPC I found to be unlikeable but I think everyone can relate.
>>722539248Favourite: YarnabyLeast favourite: Bell Hermit
>>722509324Scarcity of silk? My dumbest retard, silk is everywhere! The bugs are born with silk in their bodies because of the operations in the Citadel.Where the fuck did you get the idea that silk is scarce?
>>722539248>favoriteSwift>worstLace
>>722539582OHHH HELLO TOT TOT
>>722539248>favorite npcprobably the courier brothers. the way they talk is really funny and cute. but it's also a toss up between the architect merchant whose dialogue i really like, and second sentinel>least favoriteprobably mort. who likes that retardalso>check wiki to refresh my memory>there's an npc that shows up when in the broodmother arena>there's an npc that shows up if you don't do huntress quest in act 2and i thought i saw everything. what the fuck lol
>>722539248>FavouriteScrounge, love that relic obsessed weirdo>WorstTough one, I can't really think of a character that's outright unlikeable. Grindle is kind of a cunt but he gets away with it by being so shameless, gotta go with the pilgrim's rest merchant. Fuck your door, cunt.
>>722539248>favorite (besides the obvious)Bellamy. I love the idea that the enemies have their own lives and personalities and one of them turns out to be an okay guy>least favoriteLoam. Fucking wagie scum
>>722537056do you retards just not go back to talk to npcs after you've done stuff that would affect them>oh i've collected like 5 fleas, let me go talk to the caravan real quickno? this doesn't cross your pea brain ever?
>>722540386am i schizo? who the fuck is bellamy
>>722539537>Entire region dedicated to recycling silk>Pilgrims turn on each other for silk>Two (2) living sources of silk currently available>Silk stock currently being burned up controlling the pilgrims/reanimating corpses/sustaining laceMy man the citadel is on the brink of collapse, I give it two weeks
>>722531831>the combat's funnta, but it is and isn't, horns moveset is great, but so many of the enemies are just shit.
>>722540705>They recycle silk, yes. So?>Pilgrims don't turn on each other for silk, they turn on each other because Grand Mother Silk is controlling them to do so. Time and time again enemies are shown doing absolutely nothing until suddenly silk threads from above start manipulating them like puppets.>Have you seen the amount of silk that Grand Mother Silk produces? The cradle is full of it.>Nowhere in the game is Silk ever shown to be rare or scarceMy man, the citadel is on the brink of collapse because Grand Mother Silk has taken control of everybody from her cocoon.
>>722541302Clawline
How many NPCs fall under the category of>you didn't do their obscure side quest in time so they DIEDand>you did this NPC's obscure side quest so they DIEDLike what's the actual count here.
>>722507971I get we're bugs coded by race but why would anyone want to see humans on bugs. All my fantasies in this world are as a bug. I'm a bug.
