I think I'm reaching the first expansion, but boy this game is slow, does it get better later on? Does the formula change outside of talking to NPCs?
>>722512373It never gets better.People say it gets better after 400 hours but that's just their stockholm syndrome kicking in.
>>722512373No. You should've dropped it long time ago.
>>722512643>People say it gets better after 400 hours but that's just their stockholm syndrome kicking in.So is that 400 hours an exaggeration or will l be stuck watching cutscenes for a good part of the game?
>>722512817There's a total or over 100 hours of cutscenes from A Real Reborn to Endwalker, and that's outdated because with Dawntrail there's more.
Are you a Flame?
>>722512373NEVERAAHHAHAHAHAHAYOU MISSED OUT WHEN IT WAS GOODIF YOU DIDN'T PLAY FROM 2014-2019 JUST UNINSTALL
>>722512373That's the good part, it doesn't. People will say hundreds of hours into the game to get the best story but only because by that time you're so far into the game you're square deep into sunk cost territory that the smallest hint of a half decent experience to you at that point is now the most amazing thing in the world. Because you don't want to be convinced you've been scammed you now try to convince others to play the game so you're not alone in this feeling.
>>722512373Have you played WoW classic level 1 through 60? It's nowhere near as slow as that especially if you skip all the cutscenes, but it's also not nearly as engaging. FF14 is entirely walk from A to B, talk to B, walk to C, kill two easy mobs, walk back to A and talk to them again.
>>722513129>Are you a Flame?I mean, I guess that's what I picked, I'm starting to skip a lot of these cutscenes because I don't see them adding anything to the meat of the story. I'm trying to see if there's anything more to the gameplay outside of the story, like scaling mountains or exploration
>>722513686>/flamesaluteHer Grace guide us.
>>722512373I genuinely think the actual story and duties get much better than ARR and get much faster pacing. However you still be watching a good amount of cutscenes (though not nearly as many as ARR) so take that as you will.
>>722512373It doesn't get good. It used to, but each expansion fucked up more and more of the game.
>>722512817The flow of each expansion is that you walk around and watch cutscenes and read text boxes for 3 hours, then you get a 20 minute dungeon, and then you repeat.
Heavensward was pretty fuckin good at least stick around for that. You'll wish you enjoyed it if you stay with it long enough for Stormblood to absolutely ruin any appreciation you had for the game. Shadowbringers is another massive peak but it depends on how much you care about classic FF. The rest is shit don't bother.
>>722514234HW story is total dogshit outside of second act when things actually happen, completely overrated slop.
>>722514360>doesn't enjoy dragons and knightswhat a fag
>>722512373it gets good around 2.xcool plot twists and if you don't like the game by the time you reach Stormblood then you can drop it
>>722514208I was told a lot of stuff is locked behind the story, is that true? If so, I'm tempted to just quit, because the game loop is getting pretty boring in and of itself.Like, is there exploration in the actual world or is it just a stage for the story and has no other purpose?Can I fly around and land on buildings or anything, or am I restricted to the limitations of the world?Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?
Oh hey you already pay a monthly subscription fee and buy the expansions? So would you like some content, some quests, some rewards for those quests for the monthly subscription fee?Fuck you pay me money, no quests, no content for you, fuck you pay money now straight to the shop to get your slop.
>>722514360The only shitty parts of HW are having to go back to Ul'Dah and reviving Y'Shtola
>>722514540>I was told a lot of stuff is locked behind the story, is that true?Yes, everything is locked behind the story. Once you clear an expansion you'll get a bunch of side content unlocked that allows you to actually play the game. But only the stuff for that expansion.>Like, is there exploration in the actual world or is it just a stage for the story and has no other purpose?No, the open world only exists for cutscenes and gathering materials for crafting. There's nothing to find.>Can I fly around and land on buildings or anythingSometimes, if they decide to let you land on that building.>Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?In side content.
>>722514540>I was told a lot of stuff is locked behind the story, is that true?yes>Like, is there exploration in the actual world or is it just a stage for the story and has no other purpose?It just serves as set pieces for the story. All these zones are dead, even the most recent ones after the first 2 weeks when an expansion comes out.Can I fly around and land on buildings or anything, or am I restricted to the limitations of the world?You can but only in the confines of the zone.Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?You only group with other players on dungeons and trials, at least on the main story. That's it.
>>722514540>is there exploration in the actual worldno>>722514540>Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?Post stormblood, so 200 more hours away.
>>722514756isn't .35 coming out in two days with a new deep dungeon and the mh collab?
>>722514540Flight gets unlocked in Heavensward, there's a sightseeing log even in ARR which you might enjoy more than most people if exploration is something you enjoy. The ones in ARR are more like riddles than places to go and see, in the first expac they just turn into POIs that you hunt for while flying.Flying around and landing on things is more free than you'd probably expect but also less exciting. Stormblood also is when they got addicted to the concept of jump puzzles so there's that for a minigame if you like to explore.
>>722514540>Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?You have to do like 8 8-man trials and 3 24-man ARs to get out of ARR those are basically the default post game content aside from actual raids which are a little more on the difficult side
>>722514778>>722514825>>722514837God 200+ more hours? Yeah, I don't think I'll stay, I'm not a fan of going through a snail's pace of unlocking things and constant restrictions
>>722514945you get flying the second you beat praetorium now
>>722514954Exactly and to push it home Dawntrail and the character Wuk Lamat who everyone fucking hated is direct from YoshiP himself said to be inspired by Luffy from One Piece and he said he had been watching a lot of One Piece for inspiration before the expansion.
>>722515147Honestly understandable. There's dumbfucks that will call it stockholm syndrome but I think the perspective is different if you played the game as it came out, rather than rushing through trying to get to the relevant endgame content. It's probably frustrating given how vertical this game is, you spend a lot of time in dead instances trying to figure out what other people liked about the game. You can't have our memories, it's not something you can easily relive. While we may not have enjoyed the story back then, it was feasible to get to endgame and play with your friends and make your own fun. Objectives within reach were also still relevant even for the new players. That's not so true today.If Square dares to make another MMO I hope they make it more horizontal, similar to basegame PSO2 for example. It was very easy to convince people to stick with that by comparison since you were pretty much tossed into endgame whether you liked that or not. XIV in its current state is mostly for autists and paypigs.
>>722514436Yeah I do, but its too bad HW interrupts that every 5 quests to go do boring dogshit like retcon ARR ending, moggleslop, gobbieslop, bookslop like holy fuck
>>722514765And Hinterlands and general slow start every expansion suffers as youre forced to dip your toe into two zones before the story actually takes of
>>722512373Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
>>722512373Never
>>722514837>>722515147>Also, when do I actually group up with other players outside of dungeons?>Post stormblood, so 200 more hours away.What are you talking about? Trials, raids, and alliance raids are in every expansion. ARR itself has mandatory 8-player trials.
>>722512373>Gets goodImmediately. >Gets greatThe second you meet Yugiri
>>722514765HW was great, but walking back literally every part of the Banquet scene was cowardly as hell. They ended ARR on a huge shocking note and then undid all of it. They're lucky the HW story was good enough to make up for it.
>>722515791>gobbieslop It's pretty easy for me to forget this was just about where I lost my shit but kept going since I was practically done with the story back then. I guess it makes sense. In hindsight I just remember some of the cooler shit like Thordan.
>>722514938How is that relevant to items being put behind a cash shop with no other way to earn them in game? No quest linked to them, no seasonal event and content that is put into the game you have to wait 2-3months for, sometimes as long as 4months - 4.5months in a game that asks a monthly subscription.
>>722512373It doesn't. The visual novel formula never changes. The story gets a little better though
>>722515147>>722515669I had an fantastic time going through the entire game from start to finish after joining in ShB.There's an absolutely massive amount of content to do, and because of the syncing, it's always relevant. Took me something like 300hrs or so before I actually caught up with the main quest because there were so many dungeons, raids and trials to do, and so much story to enjoy. There's surely some people who find the path to Max level as a problem, and I can understand it seems like a daunting experience having to go through all those expansions. But I absolutely loved it. Was like being able to go through an entire series of books.
>>722516720>in a game that asks a monthly subscriptionnot just that but it also asks you to rebuy the game every 2-3 years at full priceIt's exactly as you said, they thinned out the quest rewards, made the seasonal events less exciting, less dungeons, and started pumping the cash shop instead. I've been mad at them about this since the Ivalice raids when they dropped this on the cash shop instead of giving it to us for completion of the alliance story. It was so blatant to me. Nearly didn't buy Shadowbringers because I was noticing it too hard, but I did so I guess I can only blame myself for contributing to the rot by encouraging it. There's been a few exceptions like the summer events having some decent glam items but otherwise they've been quite obviously greedy for many years now. For the record I did NOT buy Dawntrail.
How would (you) fix FFXIV?
>>722517713It's too late for that, far too late.
>>722516945>Was like being able to go through an entire series of books.The problem is that it's supposed to be a video game.
>>722515147>God 200+ more hours? Yeah, I don't think I'll stayLeave while you're ahead OP, the formula doesn't change and whoever tells you this "MMO" is good, has battered wife syndrome and doesn't know what a fucking MMO even is.
>>722517713There are at least a dozen major issues that have been ignored for 5+ years. I don't think CS3 are even capable of recognising all the issues at this point because they had such positive feedback for Shadowbringers and the start of Endwalker. Unironically managed decline makes the most business sense, I just naively hope that they'll make another FF MMO and they'll learn the right lessons from this one when they do so.
>She's lost control of de power!
>>722512373>thinks the end of ARR is slow nowpray return to the walking sands 10
I want to play an MMO since I've never played one. Is this one a good starting point? How good/fun are the spell casting jobs?
>>722519327sorry anon, but a new FF MMO will be poopoo unless SE restructures their MMO teamsas long as Kate is involved with SE, they will never make anything good again
>>722512373It never changes in terms of the main story, but the story does get good and the cutscenes do get better animation and voice acting.The gameplay only gets good in side content. Once you are level 50 and see the credits for the first time, you can start unlocking level 50 side content. Look for quests with a plus sign on them, which means "unlocks content".If you're not a woman I recommend trying to do as much of the high-end side content as possible each time you reach the max level of an expansion (50, 60, 70 etc). All the good gameplay is found there, specifically in the raids and trials. For ARR, you'll want to do the various Extreme trials, and especially the Binding Coil of Bahamut. Note that for the latter you'll need to actually find more people to play with, you won't find a group in the Duty Finder.
>>722520164Only if you like the FF aesthetic
>>722520164None of the jobs are fun. Job design is atrocious and it ruins combat and by extension the game as a whole. Though even aside from that issue there are numerous other problems that contribute to making xiv a terrible game. I don't recommend it.
It starts good, gets slightly worse with HW, reaches its peak with Stormblood and then Shadowbringers ruins everything. Endwalker is a joke, Dawntrail is somehow even worse.
>>72252016490 hours of cutscenes unironically.I ain't lying either. Look it up.
>>722520307I've beaten the first 6 FFs that's the reason why I'm more interested on this one than WoW
I like how the moral of dawntrail was stop trying to survive and just die for someone else to take over
>>722520601
>>722514756so nice they also got rid of veteran's rewards idk how they can twist a knife more in the back of their playerbase but they keep finding new ways!interesting that sack of shit yoshi wanted some gratitude (LMAO) for not raising prices of the sub which is strange considering how his skeleton crew just shuffels assets around nowadays and nothing more.should lower the sub price if anything
I fucking hate SEAT OF SACRIFICE this fucking trial is why I despise touching Trial roulette. It's just the fucking normal version but none of these subhumans I get matched with can do these simple ass mechanics correctly. Nobody knows the fucking Fire/Ice shit despite being around forever, none of these dipshit tanks want to do the LB mechanic and retards always fail the stupid intermission button mash mechanic. I don't know why this simple ass fight is so hard for people.
>>722520164Play Blue Protocol, it's launching this coming Friday and it's free too.
>>722520164>>722520625i like playing RDM :)Black mage is fine, it looks cool but that's kinda it
>>722521008?? isn't that a game that flopped and died in Japan already
My character is a Lalafell.
>>722521008>Play Blue Protocol, it's launching this coming Friday and it's free too.Does it lock anything behind it's story and can I explore without restrictions?
>>722521113The game didn't launch so it didn't flop, it was quietly dropped by Bandai after the first beta but the devs got another publisher>>722521189Dunno, but since its free and launching fresh you're not pressured to catch up.
>>722521008Isn't that the one that died before even making it out of asia?
>>722520601Shadowbabs hate being reminded they missed out on peak.
>>722521347Yeah
>>722521113It died in Japan because BAMCO (As usual with MMOs) fumbled hard, if it weren't for the chinks (Who were funnily enough working on the mobile version of the game before the shutdown) asking for the assets, NA wouldn't have gotten it.
>>722519780I suffered through all that. And even had to go back and do the Crystal Tower later for ShB stuff.
>>722514938a casual deep dungeon full of palette swaps and a glorified commercial with shitty rewards.is that what you are talking about
>>722521250>The game didn't launchIt launched in July of 2023 and lasted a year, you misinformed fuck.
>>722521548S-sorry for being misinformed...
>>722517713Abandon it and make a new cooperative pseudo-MMO à la PSU/Guild Wars 1 with Rebirth's combat and XIV's jobs
>>722521606>S-sorry for being misinformed...Apology accepted.
>>722512373>When does this start getting good? Heavensward > does it get better later on?Storywise? Yes. Gameplay wise? No. the gameplay got actively worse each expansion. But you won't notice the downgrade in gameplay since you're 10 years late to the game and are playing the downgraded Dawntrail gameplay
I doubt Square will invest money in a new MMO once FF14 dries up but I don't know what else they'd do either. The company just seems fucked, I don't see the ability for them to produce a hit anymore. At least not for Final Fantasy.
>>722520164Red Mage is one of the few classes that's still fun to play. You'll love Black Mage too, even though it's been dumbed down alot
>>722521652>with Rebirth's combatuhhhh
>>722522121>TabtargetfagADAPT. We need more action mmos
>>722520164It' more of a single player FF theme park especially nowadays.
>>722521923>Red Mage when it was introduced in StB was the easy mode mage Job>Now in DT it's considered the hardest mostly coming down to it receiving the least changes over the yearsSad state of affairs.
>>722522278sure, but rebirth combat isn't the answer desu
>>722521468I too suffered through it all when I briefly playd this in late 2015.
>>722520625Yeah you'll enjoy this as an FF theme park then. Pick Thaumaturge as a starting class, upgrade it to Black Mage at lv30, and pick up Red Mage at lv50 too.The MSQ experience is pretty bad but the story gets better in the first expansion.
It used to be more fun as an actual game, roles had things to do. The story also got neutered a bit.
bringbackSHE
anyone need palace of the dead 1-50 in anticipation for tuesday?
God he looks so cool.
>>722523762his eng VA was p. good desu
Only fun I had with this game was grinding savage raids for mounts and that's literally 1k hours in
how on etheriys would you see the Spear constellation from the planet?
>>722512373Large story improvement in Heavensward, small to moderate gameplay improvement depending on job played (lmao BLM).A decent/okay story in Stormblood but massive gameplay improvement in nearly everything from players, single player scenarios, bosses in all content, ect.ShB best story, moderate gameplay improvements for players, natural ramp up of bosses and shit for everything else.6.0 of EW (not patches) is similar to ShB but with smaller player gameplay improvements and a story that averages out to good but is an absolute roller coaster of quality between 11/10 moments dropping all the way down to like 6-7/10 moments.Music is, as always, the true winner in all sections of XIV.
>>722525864why bother they give those away for practically free during content droughts five times a year with that moggle tome shit
>have to watch a YouTube video to beat hard modes>Everyone is autistic>Have to do every simon says move perfectly every time>No one can die or you automatically loseWhy do people like this shit?
I forgot the Monster Hunter collab was happening soon there's like 0 excitement for it anywhere
>when you're dying and decide to go solo Emet Selch, but then all the scions find you and beg you to lead them for the first time because no one knows what to do without you.kino
>>722526401They've given away a single Savage mount in the Moogle Tomestones which is the first Omega Savage mount 7 years after it released, which is abysmally easy to solo anyway.
>>722522451Rebirth's combat is great.
>>722526848The rewards look nice but as typical with XIV, I'll get everything I want in a day and then forget it exists afterwards
>>722526762>>Have to do every simon says move perfectly every time>>No one can die or you automatically loseYes, if you don't like play another game.
>>722526762>watching a youtube vid for hard mode
>>722529574That's not how the game was before Shadowbringers, not that you'd know.
>>722512373unironically 50 hours in
I liked the game better when there was higher emphasis on job mechanics over encounter mechanics. You can say the The Arcadion fights are fun and sure, but only those specific fights were fun. Before if your job was fun to play you could enjoy it anywhere.
>>72252986450 hours in he'll still be watching several hours of cutscenes to earn 10 minutes of gameplay which consists of pressing three buttons because all those skills that used to be there at that level were redistributed to the latest expansion.
>>722512643Wrong.It gets good after the vanilla/2.0 and turns to shit after endwalker (300 hours in?)
I thought it was Gabranth and FFXII before opening this thread and typing this response.
Come on people, don't lie to OP, everyone knows this game consists of 200+ hours of cutscenes and maybe 50 minutes of actual gameplay
>>722512373You're going to love DT.
>>722530142>You're going to love DT.You're assuming OP even bothers getting to DT if he can't tolerate the pace of ARR into HW.
>>722515190True, but that's limited to ARR zones. It's important to mention that you have to do the aetheric current hunt in every individual zone after that to be able to fly in them, and notably some aren't found on the ground but are quest rewards for sidequests that won't unlock until you're farther in the story beyond that zone.
I did four alliance raids and only got one (1) glamour, one singular piece of gear that I might even consider dressing up my virtual Barbie. What am I supposed to do with 2B’s pantsu cosmetic?
>>722530064I think I spent more or less 1000h basically doing just the MSQ in a leisure pace, leveling a lot of jobs to max and doing just a little bit of endgame roulettes.And I'd wager most of that play time was reading and watching cutscenes. But it was during lockdown and I had literally nothing better to do.
>>722529774It was, you're nostalgic for a time that didn't exist. This game has never had any dynamism.
>>722517663And don't forget retainers. Unless you choose to just absolutely ignore crafting, gathering, and doing shit with the market board, SE has probably got you on the hook for at least one more of those for a monthly fee too.>For the record I did NOT buy Dawntrail.Hah, and now for the one-two punch: If 8.0 doesn't suck dick and is worth playing, even though new expansions give you everything prior for free they'll still reach into your pocket if you want to get a story skip to avoid the 7.0 garbage.
>>722520164The problem with FFXIV is that jobs aren't interesting until you are level 80, it's like a gacha game with les mobility
>>722530813You didn't play the game before 2021.
>>722520164Red Mage is fun, but you can't play it till you complete ARR. I haven't played any of the other casters, but people tell me RDM is now the most challenging and fun one to play.
I hope the next gear theme finally moves past the dogshit tassels, tribal rags and kpop modern hot garbage
>>722512373The bloody banquet
>>722530860>The problem with FFXIV is that jobs aren't interesting until you are level 80Jobs aren't even interesting at 100 the fuck are you on about
>>722530867Sorry endless chud, gotta unplug you now.
>>722530901you can play red mage as soon as you get to level 50 anon
>>722530901you just have to be 50 for red mage you can be one before finishing arr
>>722530901Yeah because it actually has to cast spells, it has autistic optimization with Fleche and Contre Sixte, burst uptime can be tricky in some fights because of the melee phase, and the procs mean you're not pressing the same rotation every time. Funnily enough it used to be considered the baby retard caster for women.>>722531005You didn't play the game before 2021 so you have to lie to yourself and pretend it was always shit.
>>722531125You're pretending the game's combat was dynamic when it wasn't, you're just nostalgic for the times when most mechanics were new.
>>722531054>>722531057Oh right. I was thinking it was that you had to finish ARR because that's around level 50.
>>722531226The post you replied to was talking about doing dance routines perfectly or else everyone dies. Now you're talking about "dynamism" because you don't have a point. If I argue against you, you'll decide you mean something else by "dynamism". You didn't play the game before 2021, so just keep quiet and talk to Wuk Lamat.
>Save FFXIV?>Leave it to meAll the doomers are going to regret it real soon
>>722531384I remember this post about Chaotic, and Occult Crescent.
Post Ryne
>>722512373THE WALL is the whole segment between the end of ARR's MSQ and the start of Heavensward, it's both super boring and overwhelming in terms of content, HW does get good but I feel it also has its low moments.
>>722531384There's two ways they could bring him back for an emergency.1) Story related to traveling to the bad future G'raha came from2) Timeline split from the Unsundered World leading to exploring that world
>>722531326Dynamism, as in the combat is reactive, like in a full on action game for instance, rather than proactive. Every boss fight in XIV is on a set rotation that you can flowchart down to the second and has been since the beginning, you're only complaining about it now because nothing is new anymore.
>>722531536
>>722512373Heavensward is good, Stormblood is okay, Shadowbringers is giga kino and one of the best FF stories ever told, Endwalker is good, Dawntrail is actual steaming shit on par with XIII for levels of suckage.I figure if the next expac turns out to be ass as well we can be sure the magic is gone and move on.
>>722531635Okay, thanks for defining that so I can rape you. Prior to Stormblood all mechanical phases were based on boss HP. That meant that you could hold dps to delay harder phases and then line up your burst to blast through them and minimize the time you spent in them.You didn't play the game before 2021, and now you've admitted it. That's the first step. Now speak to Wuk Lamat.
>>722531601That's not Hades bro, it's just a reused boss skeleton.
>>722531842>admits that bosses attack on a set schedule
>>722532041You should fix your reading comprehension, because they didn't do that before Stormblood.
>>722531806
>>722532102yes they did. if i can name one fight made before stormblood that goes on a timer will you admit defeat?
>>722532102You just admitted they did, every boss runs on a set schedule
>tfw the game is dying and will likely be next to irrelevant by the time of the fanfestsFucking hell, oh well it's taking place in Germany anyway, I'm not going to fucking Germany fuck that country far too many Turks plus Kate will be there and if I saw her I would be too tempted to slap her for what she did to my favourite game.
>>722532212They didn't. If you did morbol fights on BLU you'd know that because you intentionally wait on bursts for some fights to skip mechanics with HP gates.>>722532223No, they used to run on HP gates. So as an example you could spent 5 minutes on Bahamut's first phase or you could spent 3 minutes depending on how much damage you're dealing. He didn't shift phase after a set period of time. Bosses were not on schedules, they had HP gates. You didn't play the game before 2021.
>>722520164just play wowxiv community is garbage and cliquey
>>722532372>continues to state that bosses run on a set schedule of attacks
>>722512373HW > SB >ARR >ShB > EW = DT
>>722532552You don't know what the word schedule means, Rajesh?
>>722532372i will accept your apology
>>722532582
>>722532768>time and sequenceWhich does not apply here. Because Bahamut will cast a Gigaflare at 75% and another at 50% before starting the adds phase. So you can get one Megaflare, or you can get six. You can also end up with a Gigaflare during other mechanics such as the Flare Stars, compounding damage. Meaning you have to manage his HP. He doesn't do it on a schedule. You raped yourself, Rajesh.>>722532683>b-but this leveling dungeon boss...
>tfw mobile version mogs the PC versionYoshiP is a hack.
>>722512817hahaha oh you sweet summer child
>gets destroyed in the wow thread after whiteknighting autoplaying addons but can't post proof he even does the content he claims will be degraded if addons are removed>moves to the ffxiv thread and argues for 2 hours on the definition of 'schedule' the common element? you suck at arguing
>>722533014>admits he's a WoWnigger transplant who started the game in 2021You can kill yourself now, Rajesh.
>>722532954>Because Bahamut will cast a Gigaflare at 75% and another at 50%So, according to the schedule?
>>722533130That's not a schedule, Rajesh. He can cast it at completely different times during the fight based on your performance. It's reactive. Please learn English before posting on my website again.
Same game as Kate and a literal tranny voice actor. It once was based but is no more.
>>722512373The consensus is that ARR is kinda mediocre and it actually gets good at Heavensward. I'd say Heavensward is when it gets solid writing wise as they're focusing on way less shit, while Stormblood is when you can tell combat isn't designed around the PS3 and they can shove stupid setpieces in every trial
>>722533181He doesn't cast it at completely different times, you already stated with 100% accuracy WHEN he would do it, its a schedule the exact same sequence of attacks will happen but the timing at which they happen is dependant on DPS. By your own admission multiple times you are not reacting to anything
>>722533395>He doesn't cast it at completely different timesYes, depending on his HP.>you already stated with 100% accuracy WHEN he would do itWhich can come at completely different points in the fight, including in the middle of other mechanics. Because it is not on a schedule, but is reactive.You raped yourself and lost. Now back to the garbage pile, Rajesh.
this is a disasterpost lalas
What does sex with a female Lala feel like /v/?
>>722533503she always arrives on schedule when she reaches certain hp thresholds
>>722533202Can anyone explain what exactly was woke about Dawntrail besides Wuk Lmao's voice actor? I just recently played through it and all I thought was that the story was boring.
>>722533476It's not reactive because again, you know exactly when its going to happen, the timing only changes based on DPS meaning it still adheres to the schedule. You are not reacting to it you are being proactive about it, it's on a schedule with the only caveat being that the timing is player manipulatable.
>>722533607there's no conflict on tural
>>722533607>constant wanking of MUH DIVERSITY despite everyone on the continent wearing a uniform and all believing the same things>tribal south america is in perfect peace and harmony because they ate tacos together>rubber bullets>blue mages cut out because muh racism muh colonialism>"Be on the right side of history."
>>722533607Very heavy handed push with diversity bollocks.
>>722533607the audacity to scold me about the benefits of physical diversity, the warrior of light who's been helping less fortunate minorities across several different worlds
>>722533607I think that the main complaint is that they found themselves at an angle where the story would be one of the White Savior, as you arrive to the land of literal savages that haven't lived even a decade with basic tech like Aetherites, so they pivot to try and bring Wuk to the forefront, but they fail n both sides so Wuk feels like a metaphorical nepotism baby, while Tural is disgustingly surface level with a lot of unfocused pandering to Latam as a whole (Mostly Peru and Mexico) which is really fucking stupid because the game isn't localized in any kind of Spanish, and most of the shit they do with it is basic ass "OH LOOK, FOOD, ISN'T THAT FANTSTIC" Rather than actually doing anything with the cultures. Also the entire Golden City fiasco.They didn't know what they wanted to do, neither who they were aiming for. I dare to say that the next expansion will work 100% without needing any kind of context on whatever happened on Dawntrail
>>722533778>it's not reactive because you can choose when to make the boss reactOkay Rajesh, you can go back to WoW now.
>>722533821listen chud eorzea is not diverse, only non-eorzeans can be diverse
>>722534024>>it's not reactive because you can choose when to make the boss do guranteed actionYes.
>>722534007That's pretty comprehensive a reason and I agree with everything said, good post.
Would you a Speen /v/
>he thinks a schedule has to be measured with te distance light travels and not a series of eventsunironically that what kairos is
>>722533821I have never played FFXI but even I can recognise something about that picture has more soul more passion more love and artistic merit in FFXI than in the FFXIV image. If FFXI wasn't stuck behind retarded Play Online I would play it in a second.
>>722534090>you can choose when to make the boss do guranteed actionLike you're causing the boss to... respond to an action? Respond... to an action... Re...act? Reacting?
>>722533607Honestly the woke didn't even start with DT. It started around SHB when they insisted on pixies having they pronouns and going beast tribes good actually. Ironically SHB was when Kate took over localization from Koji.
>>722534225You, the player, are not reacting to anything.
>>722533821Even the characters in FFXI are emoting more, look with the chick on the left her hands behind her back and legs apart, the smaller chick on the right with her arms folded and legs together one is confident the other more demure.Then look at ff14 and they're both standing completely static, they might as well be T posing, it has the same effect.
>>722530823>they'll still reach into your pocket if you want to get a story skip to avoid the 7.0 garbageShit. I didn't think of that. I suppose I'll be forced to cope by unironically adopting a sour grapes stance. There's no way I'm going to sit through a hundred thousand lines of Wuk Lamat.
>>722534187That image reflects the vidya industry in general, honestly.
Imagine if they didn't pussy out and gave us some REAL savage South American stuff
>>722534370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aijP3rvckEE goes with that webm
>>722534163Yes. I wish they actually did something mildly interesting with her, I never thought she'd join the Scions like some retards thought but I was hoping she'd have any conclusion that wasn't the most boring possible "just become queen again lol" outcome.
So what are our expectations for the Winterers and the remaining sundered Ascians?
>>722534586I don't have any and I'll probably still be disappointed anyway.
>>722534586
>>722534586>Hee hee hoo hoo hee haa, with the Unsundered no longer around to boss me around, I can finally do the EVIL things I always wanted to do!This is it. This is what you can expect. Yes, it's bargain bin Fandaniel. We're doing it again.
>>722534586one or more of the remaining ascians are attempting to instigate rejoinings in a different method than the unsundered used, and they've recruited several powerful lieutenants (calyx being one of them). if the worlds refuse to be rejoined, they'll just evolve their way back to the ancients
>>722534586I expect Hiroi to baffle me.
I miss her
>>722534936At least I could masturbate to Lyse even if her personality was insufferable. I couldn't do anything with Wuk, nothing.
>Dawntrail gets up on its gay horse and lectures you constantly >The guy who was accountable for all the bad stuff in Tural never gets blamed for it for one fucking second
>>722534936>>722535119Stormblood haters had no idea how bad it could really get. I'd take Lyse over Wuk any day.
>>722534936I always thought Lyse was a qt. I didn't start playing and join the community till late into ShB, but I heard she was hated. What about her made people angry. The fact that her role was relatively tame despite being the covergirl for SB?
>>722532330>not tempted to murderfake fan
>Lyse was betterDEBUNKED by the EXPERTS
>>722535417Most people just thought she was annoying and took up too much of the spotlight but some literally just hated her for being a white girl leading a country full of brown people
>>722535558i can't believe the warrior of light is cheating on his cunny wife meteion
>>722535417She's retarded and gets promoted into leading the resistance because of nepotism.
>>722535305I found Stormblood very slow to get going but there were still huge parts that I loved. I really thought Hingashi was cool, the Mongolian Zone and the Chinese Zone were really cool, hated the Ruby sea that zone was far too big but I really liked Zenos, Krile and Yshtola got some action, Alisaie was paired with my Wol and loved that, Lyse kicked a little fish fucker who absolutely deserved it. The content itself was goated, Four Lords, Ivalice raid, Eureka. Man, Stormblood post patches were also really cool, not 4.1 but 4.2 onwards I thought was great. We're on 7.35 almost and I've hated every single story so far in Dawntrail.
>>722534163she's cute and not a complete retard, so yes i would herbut i doubt she would IRL me ;-;
>>722535632>but some literally just hated her for being a white girl leading a country full of brown peopleUnfortunately there are a lot of racists who play and develop FFXIV, Kate being one of them.
>>722535653
>>722535821sphene is a petite, not a true loli like mablu
>>722533607
>>722534648this>>722534781and this
Alisaie needs to have sex
>>722535558>Whereas I've grown to love Wuk Lamat! Everyone she meets will come to love her, tooThey weren't even trying to be subtle how much they wanted people to love Yoshida's OC. It doesn't work like that, you can't force people to love a character you just can't.
>>722535734>he doesn't like arcadiondo you have no soul?
>>722535890meteion is from the ancient times so she's like huge, did they ever explain why she's small in the present or are you just not supposed to think about it
>>722535956This but Kan-e Senna.
>>722536017You encounter her in a dynamis realm where feelings determine reality. Your perception of Meteion is that she's smaller than you, so that's how you see her.
>>722535979it's hiroi's oc albeit
>>722536017i think the best theory is that she projects her appearance based on hermes' design and what the individuals around her would interpret that as. even though yes, she's like 4.5 meters tall in elpis
>>722535734>>722536001I think 7.2 and 7.3 were steps up from 7.0 but that's a low bar for sure. The focus on Sphene and Alexandria made it more tolerable.
>>722536102wuk doesn't have enough brain problems to be hiroi's OC. all his characters have parental issues, except edda, but edda is a little special
>>722536001I liked Lightweight Arcadion but really disliked Cruiserweight.
>>722536276cruiserweight will make perfect sense when in the last chapter its revealed its all scripted and everyone is in on it, except the cats
What's with the community holding out for hope for these "big class changes" in 8.0 that will probably just end up being new finishing moves. What do we really expect them to change about classes like, say...Viper, Dragoon or a tank like Paladin, Just giving shit back they took away?
>>722536671The community is always coping about something
>>722536421I like the idea, but making the big kot think she almost has super cancer seems cruel, but I guess that's how Ascians roll?The announcer also being out of it could be funny as well
>>722536671it'll be awesome. yoshi-p will push the 'just make it good' button and everything will be goodi predict a great pruning
I just thought of something. In the post-Stormblood patches, Yshtola and Urianger mentioned multiple times that aether seemed to be thinning all over the planet. Was that a reference to the coming of the 8th umbral calamity, or the final days?
>>722536671Take any kind of HP recovery out of tanks. Have them only access mit, but still rely on actual healers to recover. You can probably get away with leaving the shitty hp recovery skills on no DPS as those are there to take some worry away from the healers
>>722536880Nobody gives a shit, troon.
>>722517713FFXVII
>>722536880the 8th umbral calamity. the aether was thinning because it was moving towards stasis as the First was 'approaching' the source. our actions during shadowbringers tipped the scales enough that the First was no longer getting sucked into the source, so the aether started to return to normal
>>722512373It doesn't. You're currently in the worst period of time to play it.
>>722512817>or will l be stuck watching cutscenes for a good part of the game?that IS the game. that's the part that's good. at least up until endwalker.If the story hasn't grabbed you by the time you get to Ishgard, it's probably not for you.
>>722536880>>722537021Most people miss it but at the end of ARR right before you find Wilred dead the researcher you're escorting mentions that the ambient aether has been declining since the Battle of Silvertear Skies blew the lake up.
>>722536976Take the cock out of your mouth anon
Dawntrail flopped SO hard that Japan voted in Girl Hitler in response to such an abhorrent expansion. YoshiP fucked up BIG TIME. He needs to apologize NOW!!!
>>722537179well yeah. whatever is in silvertear unleashed a huge amount of aether and made eorzea far more aetherically active (in preparation for the 7th calamity). readings taken just after the calamity would be higher than five years later makes sense to me
>>722537316This girlboss feminist bitch made her cuck husband take her maiden name.
>>722537429>feminist>opposes a female emperor
>>722537321Eorzea had extremely high aetherial density prior to the Seventh Umbral Era. Readings taken since the Battle of Silvertear, which was 10 years before the Calamity, showed the decline beginning at that point.
>>722537518the primals eating it all?
>>722535417>I always thought Lyse was a qtonly looked cute in the cinematicsher ingame model was TRASH
>>722537316>electing a womanThey never learn. This can only go poorly.
water water
>>722539232female politicians tend to be meaner than male ones since they have to overcome the stigma of being the weaker sexthis is why no one argues with merlwyb or kann e senna
>>722537316>female pm doesn't believe japan can have an empressWhat causes this kind of derangement? Also if she's really a friend of Abe when's she getting pregnant again?
hey necromancer-kun, i'd bet you are lurkingwhat the better healer for light party runs, sage or white mage?
>>722512373>When does this start getting goodit doesnt, dont let the fans gaslight you
>>722536421I just direly, direly want Heavyweight 3 to be a Royal Rumble where we fight every other boss so far for the right to headline Arcadimania.And also to assault the President with a beer truck.
>>722541616naw, thats A12S. just all of the fighters attacking you at once. do all the normal mode fights at the same time
>>722522451>pseudo turn-based and real time action gameIt would actually transfer to an instanced dungeon runner MMO-styled game (like XIV already is) incredibly well. They already have a base for how Monk and White Mage would play through Tifa and Aerith. Since moves are on timers or metered already it could make balancing it for MMO like encounters easy.
>>722541716If I wanted to cap the Arcadion off it’d be with a whole thing about “Holo-Fighters”, kind of like how Diamond Weapon’s Overmind works. The President covers up the deaths due to psychonekrosis and replicates them to use their likeness even in death. That’s how Vince runs his business.
>>722542184you just saying diamond weapon made me think of how awful that fight is
>>722542184I thought maybe they were going to end up being some parallel to the twelve for the ninth reflection
>>722542184He covers it up because he realizes that less people would sign up to fight with beast souls if they knew what it did to them. It's all about the moneh moneh money
>>722542184>metem (the president in disguise) sees the cultural change happening and that using human souls for amusements is falling out of favor fast>uses the WoL to kill two birds with one stone, having a good reason to get rid of his soul collections and to give this chapter of the arcadion's history a big finale>gets every single fighter in on it >except yaana (who's too new) and possibly eutrope (who struck off on her own without ever actually asking if the president had a cure)>psychonekrosis is a known ailment and has a cure the entire timethe only hole i can think of is why previous champions disappear after they retire. it can't be because of the regulators because the storyline has to make sense if you do the whole thing after finishing 7.0.metem being an ascian would be an 'ok, so what' moment imho. the list of remaining ascians is sparse and at least 1 of them is off doing other things. there's no reason he has to be one as he's not doing anything he'd need to be an ascian to do. so unless he ascian teleports away from us in M11 i don't think it'll do
>>722541201ugly lala
>>722543474better than off model fanart of a harvin
>>722512373These pseudo generals follow the same script'i am new to the game does it get better?''just started shadowbringers, what did I think?''is this game good?'Always by the same dude trying to bypass the janny. Without fail So desperate to have an FF14 XIV thread up at all times that he just can't help itThis one will fall like the rest
>>722517713Forced rituals belong on /vg/
>>722543963Forced?He does it for free and willingly.
>>722543963>>722543895took you 7 hours to find the thread. you're slacking
>>722544250Only one of those are me, anon. add me to your the list of imaginary boogeymen
>>722535558Lyse is the reason I don't have Yda or Papalymo. They are equally shitty, but Wuk Lamat's greatest sin is taking up too much screentime. She didn't kill two potentially good characters to exist, and thus she's superior to Lyse.
>>722512373about here
>>722543963what's the problem?
chocolate miqitten
>>722544250is this something to brag about?
There is no good argument against restarting the rejoining now that meteion is gone
>>722545023NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST GENOCIDE ENTIRE REFLECTIONS IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN SOULS ON THE SOURCE!!
>>722545090Why not?
kill all female Lala's, fuck all female Miqo'te's. Everything else can be ignored.
>>722545023well lucky for you its happening naturally now that hydaelyn is gone
>>722545112I dunno, but the writers completely ignore the existence of soul density nowadays. It doesn't even factor into anything.
>>722545171because soul density is potential, not power level
>>722512373You're supposed to skip the story and download big booba and fat ass mods and RP in dance clubs
>>722545171clearly all the reflections can't handle it every single one of them is an awful mess, just start over
>>722545171It never meant anything in the first place when Ran'jit was one of the strongest characters in the story for no reason
>>722545301>ranjithere we go again
>>722512373teleport and talk to people for 700 hoursthen you too can grind end game content that makes you fall asleep
>>722545401He is a point of contention for a reason
>>722545505no, he's not.
Does this game even have a playerbase anymore?
All mmos suckFF has a piss poor story with a retarded aesthetic, why is there magic and fantasy mixed with space nazis who are also using magic but somehow you're in the same world where there's modern restaraunts but also old demonic gods who are trying to destroy the world.The game makes zero sense, even wow or osrs has some semblenace of consistency
>>722545596Keep telling yourself that.
>>722545598no. we're just pretending
>>722545858a game of pretend...?
>ffxiv>goodLOL
funny how <>XIV threads change once burgers come online
Which Scion would /v/ (or the FFXIV community) be the most upset to see die permanently? We've only lost Papa and Minfilia so far.
>>722545748Ancient supertech is a cornerstone of the fantasy genre and the nazis are using repurposed ancient tech. The modern grubhub starbucks shit is retarded though yes, and it comes from nu-writers who don't care about the setting.
>>722546217Alphinaud
wow another >300 post thread in 8 hourstruly alive here folks you definitely aren't neurotic
>>722548198its what a natural thread looks like
>>722548620We used to hit bump limit in under an hour.>>722548198The site is dying.
>>722548749back when folderkun was at his full power and didn't have his vpns banned from someone using them to dump cp
really does make you wonder. the shitposters disappear for awhile and certain practices just ceaseanyway, i've only gotten underkeep for expert roulette since 7.3. never gotten meso terminal before. whats with that
>>722548796No, during Shadowbringers.
>>722549396Go back to the WoW thread and let them know who's streaming.
>>722549697are you the one that claimed removing addons was just catering to the lowest common denominator and it would kill mythic raiding but refused to prove that he was in fact a mythic raider and instead demanded everyone else had to prove they were mythic raiders?because removing addons will filter a lot of mythic raiders and i'm happy that its happening and i may pickup Midnight if they actually follow through
>>722549857>are you the one that claimed removing addons was just catering to the lowest common denominator and it would kill mythic raiding but refused to prove that he was in fact a mythic raider and instead demanded everyone else had to prove they were mythic raiders?No? Removing addons is a good thing and I was there to laugh at boiling WoWniggers when I saw you post about Alphinaud's VA streaming.
>>722512817Did you make friends yet? I would find some folks to do the Binding Coil of Bahamut synched and see if the challenge of raiding is something you can vibe with. If so, you have something to look forward to when you catch up. If not, well yeah the story does get better but not enough that it will make you stick around if you're not already liking the game for the story by Heavensward.
>>722516601>HW was great, but walking back literally every part of the Banquet scene was cowardly as hell.For us non-1.0 players they should have dropped a strong reminder of the sleep potion foreshadowing at some point.
>>722549902weird seeing alphinaud's voice coming out of a indian
>>722517713Make an offline version. Turn based. Remove 80% of the quests and streamline the story. Trim the plot down to 40-50 hours. Have the characters travel with you so you can actually get to know them.
>>722520970people are shit at video games. Like I'm bad where it takes me a while to get down EX and shit, but once I know the fight it's almost impossible for me to fuck up. But FFXIV is my first online co-op game where I wasn't playing with mainly my friends and dear god do randoms in this game make me understand why devs put yellow paint and markers fucking everywhere
The avatarfag is uppity because he is not getting the attention he cravesLook at him kvetch
>>722534586Rejoining is my guess. The nature of Meteion is known and she is pacified and they actually have less work since they don't need to do whatever they needed to do to complete Zodiark. I liked the Ascians, but I agree with Yoshi P that enough is enough. I hope this is a lead-in to a new villain. Heart of Sabik ancient aliens and shit.
>>722536058This but Raya-O
>>722550565>and they actually have less work since they don't need to do whatever they needed to do to complete Zodiark.They didn't have any extra work involved. Zodiark was completed with each rejoining because all the aether from a shard flooded back into the Source and snapped into place where applicable. So he was just part of the deal.>Heart of Sabik ancient aliens and shit.The auracite plot thread is one of the few things that wasn't shot dead in EW, so I'm hoping for that too. They explained that Sabik came from Athena but there's still her meeting with Ultima in the first place, and the other auracite she found that manipulated her into crafting Sabik.
>>722546217I could see people perma-unsubbing for almost all of them, but killing off Y'shtola would actually get the game taken offline. They know this which is why they keep teasing her death. It would be beyond kino if after the 8th fakeout she actually kicked it.
>>722550686>They didn't have any extra work involved. Zodiark was completed with each rejoining because all the aether from a shard flooded back into the Source and snapped into place where applicable. So he was just part of the deal.Didn't they need to kill more people or something after he was complete? I can't remember all this convoluted bullshit man.
>>722550759Emet was just gonna trade all the newly formed non-Ancient souls into Zodiark to get the Ancient souls back.
>>722550759>>722550686Athena never met Ultima. where do you guys get this shit?
>>722550291I would only go for a complete Demake that's sprite-based, plays like SNES FFs, and DOESN'T get rid of most of the content. The dialogue can be trimmed and edited down to PS1 length cutscenes though. I would retain most of the game as open world, but with the restriction that you have to do the relevant content (raids) to move onto the next hub. I think it would be fun having a 200 hour FFVI journey quite frankly.
>>722550872When you unlock savage you're told Athena encountered Ultima.
thread so frigid janny doesn't give a fuck. man this site is dead
>>722551135/v/ used to scroll at lightning speed but now we regularly see threads sit on the 'log for two or three days. Yeah, it's fucking done. The only real activity on this site anymore is from /vg/ and /vt/.
>>722551349so long as the lunatic count goes down i'm down for a slower /v/
>>722551037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdv_Ki9xtBc ?
>>722552642It's somewhere else then. I'll look for the dialogue.
>>722551349maybe less bots?
>>722552808probably the CP spam of late has been driving off a lot of posters
>>722552691i'll help you out: it is impossible for Athena to have met Ultima. Athena died well before the events of Pandaemonium which was before the sundering and Ultima fell to the planet after it, sometime during the third astral eraso unless lahabrea brought the heart of sabik to ultima at some point between the third era and the allagans getting a hold of it, which is a huge stretch, it didn't happen
>>722553121Athena had one of Ultima's auracites. Ultima made contact with the Source before the sundering.
>>722517713For starters: I'd make it Buy to Play, sub for expansions like ESO did. So write that down...
>>722553215Athena found some auracite, not Ultima. It corrupted her (like every other piece we've found) and she made her own auracite called the Heart of Sabik which she put her memories into, including how to cast Ultima the spell (which seems to be something auracite lets you do)These are the only established facts we have about that. anything else is conjecture or just a guess. my personal headcanon is that auracite is concentrated dynamis and that Ultima when she fell was a malfunctioning Meteion until she was eikonized by the worship of mortals and her creating auracite was just her way of trying to end the world
>>722553440>Athena found some auraciteAuracite which originates from Ultima.
>>722553483your post doesn't say what you say it does>we don't know when Ultima the High Seraph appeared on the planet>however (and this disconnects it from the next statement)>we do know Athena found some auracite that let her cast Ultima>athena named it auracite, and made her own auracite, the heart of sabik
>>722553592And what do you think the Ultimas flying around Athena's arena mean?
>>722553706minions she created to assist her in combat
>>722553821But they're Ultimas.
>>722553889i made a chart to illustrate my pointultima the high seraph and athena pulled their power from the same source, so their powers would manifest in similar ways. one of my other crackpot theories is that solidified dynamis takes on a feathered appearance, as seen in the meteia, ultima the high seraph, and alpha omega (though ultimates aren't canon)
>>722554103Alpha Omega probably gets his feathers from his race's original form. If you look on beetle Omega's back you'll see his face surrounded by feathers.
>>722526062Anon, you might be retarded.
>>722554271like cute retarded or like drooly retarded?
>>722533607It wasn't woke, it was stupid.
>>722554327Like forgetting the planet rotates retarded.
the ultimanians.........
>>722554652so when the planet rotates it somehow changes the position of the stars that are clearly on opposite sides of the planet?
>>722554652Can you prove the planet rotates?
>>722533607normalfags wont notice but these woke fucks have a specific grammar to them and they always like to make the good guys (wuk lmao) squeky-clean good with negligible flaws.
>>722526062That's not the Spear
>>722554735the instant i read that line i knew i was gonna see flailing on /v/ about it
>>722554692Anon...
>>722554787if the spear's 5th star is hidden by the moon, then what the fuck is that big blue star on the right?
>>722554990Some other big blue star.
>>722555034Dalamud 2: The Blue Star. inside is a very chill primal
surprised arkveld actually has weapons for all jobs, including originals
Poll of the Day!https://poal.me/n04yvghttps://poal.me/n04yvghttps://poal.me/n04yvg
FF11 consists of running from CS to CS to Boss Fight to CS but it's much more enjoyable than FF14 for some reason.
>>722555728googled woops and he's a catgirl player with painted fingernails, so I'm gonna say that guy
>>722555797>FF11 consists of running from CS to CS to Boss Fight to CSThat's just how it is nowadays, in the old days those cutscenes would be split up by days of leveling and traveling.
>>722555797sounds like you're burnt out on XIV and playing something different for a change
>>722555895this. also, very rarely would anyone actually know where you needed to go and what items you needed
>>722512643This, run now OP. I played through Stormblood and it was still shit.
this is the part where ffxiv gets good
>>722536671They cling to the idea without a concrete idea of what it would take or thinking through the reality. He already ghosted us on a promised rework for 7.0, we're not getting shit in 8.0 beyond maybe condensing our 123 like in PvP.>>722543092>the only hole i can think of is why previous champions disappear after they retireI'm going to do an ass-pull and guess they're referencing how BLU worked in XI. The idea was that the blue mages of Aht Urghan always eventually eat shit because they're absorbing monster souls. Absorb too many too fast, and their physical forms fall apart turning them into flans. Absorb too much power-wise, and they become twisted into mindflayers. Once you go down the path of BLU you're on borrowed time either way. The armors they wear are made with enchantments that help contain the souls they're gluing onto their own, to varying degrees of success. When they do finally turn, it falls to the other imperial BLUs to put them down.What I'm getting at is that since they copy so much shit in XIV, I bet they use a similar explanation with the use of beast souls and the transformations/power they give. In short at some point old champs become more monsters to fight in the arena.
>>722556725cute lala
>>722534007only good response to the original message lolregarding the White Savior point, part of me believes that Tural being as unrealistically peaceful as it is was to prevent the WoL from being seen as one as they continuously root out the issues of a developing nation as an outsider. the end result is a narratively uninteresting series of quests where you instead "tag along" with wuk as she performs menial tasks while hearing about the sordid history of tural rather than actually experiencing it for yourself. i'm not at all surprised that the patch storyline focused primarily on alexandria over tural due to the presence of somewhat interesting conflicts and themes linked with it
>>722558593>i'm not at all surprised that the patch storyline focused primarily on alexandria over tural due to the presence of somewhat interesting conflicts and themes linked with itI saw some reactions from people who were disappointed that the post MSQ and the recent short stories they released didn't focus on Tural and I'm not sure what people expected. There's literally nothing interesting going on there.
>>722558593which would be fine IF the story was written for it. there's sections of the msq, especially before the attack on tulliyollal, that feel like they were altered or chopped up. 7.1 feels like they reused these plot points
>>722534450>one of the primary themes revolving around alexandria involves learning to let go of a status quo and instead embrace change>status quo in alexandria is preserved by putting sphene back on the throneunsurprising outcome, but still disappointing. i just want to travel alongside more cute girls...
>>722556629Lol same, I wasted my time with this piece of shit game and its cultist playerbase
>>722556725real... THE ONE POSTER IS REAL
>>722556803Correction, we were ghosted on several reworks in early 6.X, specifically because the beginning roll-out of them (chiefly Kaiten being removed from Samurai) was so incredibly loathed that they pretty much scrapped it by reflexAs far as 7.0's ghosting is concerned that was to avoid doing a second Heavensward where they tried to spice both raids AND jobs and couldn't handle the enormity of that task, and so they shoved off jobs for 8.0 while tackling raids in 7.0Raids HAVE changed and they've been doing stuff with boss and enemy designs that hasn't been seen in years or hasn't been seen outright like everybody having their own mini-boss in the most recent story dungeon with the executioners, it seems silly and jumping the gun to me to say we won't get anything at all vis-a-vis jobs for 8.0 when some kind of subsystem on the scale of job gauges has been promised in an interview
>>722559949I'm him.
>>722514540Why would you think a 100% linear progression, story based game where you've unlocked every dungeon so far by completing story missions, would suddenly give you a bunch of content not connected to you progressing the story?If you really want, you can buy a story skip and then just go unlock all that content and play everything in NG+ mode, but I think that requires not playing the trial version.And if you're not playing the trial version, then you're retarded, because there's no reason to be paying money to play anything before the end of Stormblood.
We must be better Eorzeans
i don't want to be a machinist. whats the next best dps for deep dungeons in preparation for tuesday?
>>722512373If you dont mildly enjoy it at this point you probably wont ever. I was mildly enjoying it up to the end of the first act of the first expansion then actually enkoyed it through that story, then I went back to mildly enjoying it for most of stormblood but with a few moments I genuinely enjoyed, then I mildly enjoyed it for the first half of shadowbringers and then really enjoyed it for the later half of shadowbringers, then didn't really enjoy endbringers much but there were like 3 or 4 scenes I did enjoy. But I stopped playing in the early endbringers post patch because I actually wasnt enjoying it anymore and never went back.
>>722512643fpbppeople praise game's MSQ while it's all>Accept Quest>Unvoiced wall of text cutscene with NPCs nodding and yapping>fade to black>got to point A>interact with 3 objects/npcs or kill monster(s)>return to NPC or go to point B>unvoiced cutscene >(return to NPC for yet another cutscene if you had to go to point B)>fade to black>Quest Completed>repeat for gorilion of timesWhile the story's quality might vary and I'm not criticizing that, if the MSQ's gameplay is like this it will drain your excitement like a bona fide AAA sony exclusive third-person story focused game...If you don't enjoy the gameplay it won't get better.If you don't enjoy the story it might get better.
>>722513003I want to hate rape wuk lamat but I feel like I'd just be frustrated because she'd like it anyway
>>722523126why? so she can worship wuk lamat while ignoring you? no thanks
>>722561495oh no!? i still get rough sex!?
>>722512643"Stockholm syndrome" literally does not exist.
>>722562930Yeah it's called Helsinki protocol.
>>722562930"Sunk cost fallacy" does tho, right?
>>722563050Kinda? But once you truly realize that the money is already gone it has no hold over you anymore.
>>722512373If you don't enjoy Heavensward you can just drop it, because despite what all the tourists will say it was the best expansion in story and overall presentation.
>>722512373You should play Guild War1, it's the only game that has an appealing PvE, a huge world to explore and an amazing class system.
Rate his taste.
>>722563345ESO has a huge world to explore, although not really an amazing class system. I wish the gameplay was better, at least they voice act all the characters and NPCs in that game even for side quests same with SWTOR, something that FFXIV refuses to do but somehow gets praised as the 'story' mmo.
rantI really hate the dialogue options they give your toon in cutscenes, they're either quirkchungus coded or bland whitebread hero moralfag drivel "No! I won't let you get away with this!" "I wont allow you to get your hands on the mcguffin!" that type of vibeFucking hell it's the type of shit a power ranger would say. No wonder your toon gets no bitches, they wrote him as a nice guy.
>>722535632Ala Mhigans aren't even natively brown. They are just tanned from the environment. Lyse was in Gridania and Sharlayan for the bulk of her life.
>>722537321Silvertear was probably a conduit for Hydaelyn to provide the Twelve with enough aether to sustain them over the years. I imagine each Umbral Calamity reduced this flow exponentially until modern day where the gods were living on fumes and borrowed time.
you think him and ysale would have gotten together if she didnt get blown up
>>722563952No, he'd never touch that psychotic mass murderer bitch.
>>722563138I don't think money is the issue. Just all the time you spent.
>the OF thinks subs are dropping because the MSQ dungeons are too hard now
HELLLOOOO????????? ANYONE HERE?
>>722565324WHAT DO YOU WANT?!
>>722556725
This game is so dead you cant even get duty finder to pop on tank.
>>722512817It's not an exaggeration. Even if you were to skip every cutscene, doing the entire maun story up to Dawtrail will take you EIGHTY HOURS
>>722565383>seen this image for over a year now>check lodestone>it's the same cheevo datesIt's a mental illness, innit.
>>722512373It doesn’t get good until the very end of ARR and even then they were unable to deliver on most of the things they set up there when Heavensward came out. The game is a rollercoaster of quality but I think it’s worth it.
>>722565575don't look at the party finder if you want to really feel bad
Last time I went to Phaenna there were 15 people across all three instances. I play on Aether too. Is the game finished? I've been mentally preparing myself to let my house go if 8.0 is shit.
>>722554809The instant I read that line I knew what the expansion was going to be: irredeemable dogshit. I was right.
>>722565949It's over this time
>>7225659498.0 isn't releasing until 2027, I honestly do not see how the game can last until then with only 7.4 and 7.5 to get it through. Shit is dire now and it's only October 2026.
Stop moaning, you're meant to be Smiling.
>>722566536>tfw u SMILE
>>722520619How would there be 90 ironic hours?
>>722566536does literally anyone actually like beast tribe shit
>>722566789I used to love it, but they've been pure garbage since EW. Every single beast tribe since EW has been about food service, and there's no fucking lore in any of them. Plus there are only like 10 quests total, so you end up doing the same ones over and over for three weeks. Older beast tribes piled lore onto you with each quest.
If the DD suck balls, ill probably just find a paypig to keep my house forever.
>>722512373It gets good with Heavensward, story becomes crap with Stormblood, becomes good again with Shadowbringers minus localization fuckery, Endwalker is the conclusion of the storyline. Dawntrail was meant to be the start of a new story and its by far the worst written mess in FF14 that makes 1.0, ARR, and Stormblood look good in comparison. And if you play with English voice acting, be prepared to change it to Japanese unless you wanna hear a horrible tranny voice actor.
>>722534586Another EVIL ascian that can do whatever they want because the unsundered are no more.And then the expansion ends with a dungeon about the antagonists memories or something.At least she is cute.
>>722534586I'm pretty sure one of the Winterers is an evil Azem's reflection that is envy of our WoL because he is just a "copy"
>>722516601Walking back that scene? QRD
>>722566536tldr: You guys are a bunch of miserable people.
>>722517713Give yshtola big ass and tits and a sex scene
>>722567681He's a retard. They didn't walk back anything, that's how the story was always intended to play out. It was the finale to the 1.0 ALC questline.
>>722567698That's not what tldr means you retarded Jeet.
>>722567698>tldr is longer than the post he was quotingZoomoids don't really speak, they just babble canned phrases the meanings of which are unknown to them.
>>722567820how about you tldr the space between my asshole and my nuts, you dog?
FF14 is just at its death stage now, story has nowhere to go.But don't be afraid, it'll milk us for 20 years to come before FF18 comes out.
>>722546217G'raha or Y'shtola
>>722567886SAAR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM THE TLDRING ACRONYM.
>>722563347It always makes me smile seeing Japanese loving western scifi like the Matrix and Star Wars
>>722512373No, that's what you get. I played the free trial and the game was more of a dancing game than RPG and the community was just mentally ill women and trannies.
>>722563347Who's this?>DBZ>Saint Seiya>TsubasaIt's a south american. Only King of Fighters is missing there.
>>722568468>Who's this?
>>722568514unc got the mechwarrior legs
>>722568595
>>722568635now this is autistic
>>722568727Don't avert your eyes from the truth.
>>722568635damn he must be under 5ft if he's getting good king moogle mogged by other random japs
>>722512373structurally the game has not changed in over 10 years.you WILL walk and talk and teleport to npcs.then when you get to max level you either raid or quit.
>>722563347>>722568796shit taste desu
>>722568838His favorite FF was 3 so I already knew that.
>>722568979FF3 is good.
>>722563347Who's the Bane of FFXIV?
>>722569047>EW and DT on the same levelopinion discarded
>>722569107ilberd
>>722569127EW is garbage.
>>722569127>storytelling is simultaneously rushed and bloated with filler, somehow>retarded time travel segment that shotguns plotholes into the story just to shoehorn in an Emet-Selch screenshot date>absolutely destroys any and all potential plot threads>confirms the twelve are real just to kill them>Zero>no content anywhereHow do people still like Endwalker?
>>722569157>>722569321it's still leagues better than DT
>>722569149based
>>722569537The tastiest turd is still in the toilet.
when are they gonna add a Yuffie costume?
>>722568108Tripcode?
>>722512373>Does the formula change outside of talking to NPCs?No. Even the latest expansion is mostly walking around town with an NPC following you. There's something like 2 hours of this before you even get into combat. Just unsub. Pic rel, what happened to my sub yesterday :)
>>722570728huh?
It has the same problems that every other popular mmo that it is not that fun or good. The people and the effort you put in makes it comfortable for you. I tried for 100h maybe but i hated the gameplay and story. Music was great. I cant really play any mmo anymore because their gameplay is just shit most of the time and there is no creative element like build making.
>>722531384>reused Hades skeleton with Hermes motifs and wings
>>722570768this isnt even what the email looks likeso disingenuous
>>722571423Yoshidrones be really coping that hard huh?
>>722571502>no datekeep it coming doomer
>>722512373its walking from point a to b while clicking npcs and shiny spots until the end of dawntrailif you didnt like the first youre not going to like the rest of the game
>>722571547You are genuinely retarded anon
>Realm Reborn sucks but don't skip it>Heavensward was the first good expansion>Stormblood is boring but don't skip it.Everyone says it's uphill after SB. Should I skip it? So far I'm not enjoying it. Not a big fan of the aesthetics and the story. Which is ironic because I'm leveling up my Ninja.
>>722563632I do remember in one of the role quests in SHB that the wol has an option to genuinely tell a cat boy to fuck off after he threw a fit at them.
Did anyone else play through the whole game last year? I played it all when Dawntrail released. It was fun seeing how mmo’s got modernized. In original WoW I remember having to wait in lines to talk to main quest npcs. I liked the game up to Endwalker. The cast of characters is one of the best out of any Final Fantasy. All the references to the old games are nice too. I played FF14 when it originally came out about a decade ago and dropped it but they really managed to fix their game a lot. I didn’t like Dawntrail like most people. It felt like the plot already concluded in Endwalker and Dawntrail wasn’t a good start and they tossed away all my favorite characters. I think another problem is that you need to pay monthly. With the rise of free to play games I’d rather just grind in those games and do dailies in those instead of doing dailies in FF14. I’d also rather just wait for a bunch of content to get released first and then pay for a sub instead of maintaining a sub. Still was a fun experience.
>>722572207>I’d rather just grind in those games and do dailies in those instead of doing dailies in FF14For sure. What does XIV offer you that you can't get in free games? Paying a sub fee for 4 hours worth of content each patch is honestly sickening.
>>722512373No it does t thought he cutscene for the ending of ARR is kino of the highest level so at least get through that. The storyline it leads to is totally waste though
>>722514360This is correct and it’s shocking how much HW is shilled as top tier kino. Had some terrific music though
>>722512373>When does this start getting good?lmao. it doesn't. its a giant long movie. the actual gameplay is horrendous not even trolling. it always boils down to not standing in the orange puddles and predicting where they will be amid a shitton of chaos while you do your stupid 1-2-3 class rotation. awful game. only good if you want to erp in it or if you just want to a single player story which is fine its not bad if you want that. until dawntrail. dawntrail is a disaster
>>722514540Only if everything is considered a lot
>>722517713Make it even remotely challenging again
>>722572764>only good if you want to erp in itMost of my remaining friends now haven't even done the post DT MSQ patches. they just stand around in Limsa mod beasting and being social
>>722514540>Like, is there exploration in the actual world or is it just a stage for the story and has no other purpose?the only MMO with purposeful world exploration is GW2
>>722520583I like how the ninjutsu abilities are trigger. I wish more mmo melee abilities used such key combos to trigger them adding a bit of skill/challenge to execution
>>722572893>friends>they just stand around in Limsa mod beasting and being socialyou disgust me, faggot>>722571653HW is the worst part of XIV until dawntrailyou have shit taste so you should probably skip everything until dawntrail because that'll be your favourite expansion
>>722512373>does it get better later on?That's the neat part: It doesn't. You're either here for the poorly written story, or the controller UI MMORPG gameplay. Not both. (Or fourth option, you're there for the ERP)
>>722520164>I want to play an MMO since I've never played one. Is this one a good starting point?It's a bit late to hop into XIV (early game is already dumbed down to be a snoozefest and is also empty of actual new players), but there's not really any better options other than maybe OSRS & GW2>How good/fun are the spell casting jobs?Black Mage is the best class if you like playing risky & being an overall detriment to your teamRed mage is an ezmode class that has insane utility and everyone will love having you on their party
>>722573065>for the poorly written storyfor games as a whole, surebut don't pretend there's an mmo with writing even remotely close
>>722573183I unironically liked some of the stories in Maple Story's Dimensional Library.
>>7225680124 months between patches was the death knell. I get it though, putting your staff through a death march like that for over a decade probably wasn't making Yoshi too popular. Plus with seniority, you get more vacation time.
>>722512373>9.5k hours in>have no idea what story is about
Just think. a whole year of nothing before the next expansion lmao. and its already dying. imagine the next 6 months?
>>722569127>FF14 on the same level as FF14imagine my suprise
>>722571653>all uphillehShadowbringers was the peak of the game in terms of main story and side stories. Endwalker was a step down and took way too many liberties with demystifying the lore, but I'd still probably put it above Heavensward if we're cutting it off at the last boss.Post-Endwalker is weird we alternated good patches with bad with the story, it's worse than Stormblood. Then Dawntrail is the worst the game has ever been. ARR is better. And now you have to traverse through that shitfest in order to continue the game when the next expac comes out.Anyway, when you say skip are you talking about buying a skip potion off the cash shop and then going back and playing through post-Stormblood in NG+? Nah, I wouldn't recommend that.
>>722573367I find that to be impossible unless you're cutscene skipping or rushing through dialogue given how much these fuckers like to repeat points. >>722573448I'm not even hype for what comes next in the next story patch. I've felt that way since Endwalker. They should have just milked it forever like everything else does instead of giving it an "ending". Marvel fucked up and did the same shit with Endgame.
>>722517713Dating sim (no dudes, chicks that look like dudes or furries)
>>722533496I fanta'd into a lala earlier...
>>722563952He'd definitely hit it and turn his dick into a popsicle.>>722573448Legion Remix will save it when it comes out tomorrow.
Remember BST?
>>722574809Only job we need is CPE
>64364341 mogstation items during DT>literally no updates for this shitIts over
>>722574901Umm sweaty, please pay for our wages since everyone is unsubbing.
>>722574901>MGPThis shit is outdated, it's like asking for more items to buy using Company Seals.Just buy the MogStation slop and support Yoshi-P
>>722562930this it's called friendship
>>722574901but we got 3 new tshirt designsaren't you satisfied?the devs need more time and budget to add more to the MGP storeplease understand
>>722575689>friendslopftfy
>>722523762He looks like an office worker with too much cosplay money.
Didn't they get rid of all the sexy mods? Next they need to go after all the gameplay mods like wow did. Total mod death.
I tried the free trial as a white mage and it felt like a single player gameThe gameplay was ok but the lack of player interaction in an MMO is disappointing
>>722576868No they went after 1 mod tool, then pussied out going for more due to backlash.There are already alternatives and forked variants so its already back to how it was before.
I really want to start dawntrail but the community burnt me out and I can't find the energy to do EW again (holy fuck this expansion sucks) also I can't find any good glamour for EW. I could repeat the one I used for ShB but it's ruining my 'tism
>>722577123It wasn't even a tool, just a file sharing system with extra steps.
>>722576994You still have people interacting but most of it nowadays is in cities or raids. But you'll still have bits where people interact with newbies and help them out. I myself have done just that and helped get people into the game, but sometimes sprouts aren't all too accepting of help from random maxed players in my experience. Sometimes still come across ones I can help and guide though.
is the dinosaur with cool shades a real character or just random graffiti on the wall
>>722577410>You still have people interacting but most of it nowadays is in raidsI always greet in /a whenever i'm in whichever alliance raid and both party and alliance chats are as alive as Ysayle...
>nobody talksoh but when they do you're gonna see some dumb shit lol
>>722577814After running Prae that many times you too will either do something else or talk nonsense while scenes go. At least that's pretty light compared to shout chat Ul'dah in Balmung at any point. The takes I've read there are beyond stupid the vast majority of the time.
>>722577814That's mostly because that used to be an hour long dungeon with unskippable cutscenes so people go crazy. Once the Praetorium got split up, this no longer happens.
>>722558996It's astounding how literally nothing happened this expac. It's by every merit a fucking filler movie-tier expansion where the only real carry away we have is that a mystery nigga is still around and a mcguffin exists to shard hop. This shit should have been the post EW story and not that trite with the void.
I honestly dont know how they can ever make the game feel more engaging to playLike the ddr part is fun but I want more rpg than the ddrlike making your gear actually affect your skills in a meaningful way but its way too late to revamp such a huge game thats riddled with spaghetti code from 1.0
>>722578590They'll never do skill-gear just because crossclass skill autism for years caused so much friction, and GM tickets from all the spergs flipping out about not having X and Y.You can barely get people to remember to use Lost in relics, or Extra Actions in raids and shit. Forcing that onto the player base is asking for the casual gluechuffers to riot and the target demographic to hate it when its not deeper than bring X Y to make number big(ger)Only way I can see it working is if they tied it to a new specialization system where your autistic monk puts on an armor set and now he has the shit to Tank, or DRK puts on a set and can dps, ect. Only issue then is people being in the wrong spec when entering roulettes, unless every dumb nigga carries around all 3 roles of spec sets so adjust as needed on the fly when a buttmad toddler ragequits.
>>722577186just get drunk and force yourself through DT
>>722568514>>722568635Now I see, the P in YoshiP stands for polio.
The same old mentally ill posters posting the same things
