>plotline is literally just REVENGE BADWhy the fuck do they keep churning out this type of garbage out?I feel like it's been overdone already to the point it's just tiring to see, especially since they're not even doing it properly to begin with.
>revenge good
>>722530139You live in a society that has shorn itself of almost all of Christianity but its most basic and least offensive values. This is what you get.
>>722530391Now that's gonna leave a mark!
nobody cares bout this movie "game"
>>722530139you are lying, you have to be... they can't be that retarded... right? i mean GoT is already about revenge, more specifically about how revenge has a price, but that doesn't mean that it isnt worth pursuing, in fact, i would say it talks positively about revenge, because if jin wasn't on a total mongol genocide crusade, tsushima would have been conquered by mongols
>>722532974Ending parts go like this:>You kill almost every boss you're after expect two of them.>One is a woman who is "good" now and turns out to be the one that helped you escape death as a child in the first place so you sparse her and make her an ally.>You kill one of the final boss's favorite sons.>His least favorite son turns out to be a bitch coward who just runs away from the fight.>The father tells his second, least favorite son that he is a failure, to go bury his brother and just drink himself to death for all he cares, basically, abandoning him.>Ugly bitch tracks down the coward son finally.>He talks about how her family (her father) caused his sister to die to begin with by deserting his post and work and causing her to starve to death as a toddler.>She suddenly grows a conscience over this, feels bad and apologizes, but the son doesn't want to hear it then tries to shoot her before running away.>You run after him, eventually catching up and have a boss fight.>All throughout it, the bitch suddenly switcher her tone yelling about how "I don't want this!" , "We can stop this fight right now, please!" even though she spent the whole game killing a shit ton of people in her retarded quest for revenge>You beat him, he expects to be killed, even encourages it, but you sparse him.>He suddenly also changes his tune then immediately snakes on and betrays his father, telling you where he's hiding so you can assault him.>She asks why he would do this.>"Because he abandoned me.">You track down the final boss, you fight.>Like, two scripted events where you're meant to look as if you're about to lose.>Your brother jumps in to defend you.>Now you're fighting unfairly, 2 v 1 against he final boss.>You beat him, then he stabs your brother and he bleeds to death on the ground as the fight goes on.>You 1 v 1 him again and beat him then kill him.>Your brother now actually dies for real in the cutscene while saying his final goodbyes as you cry.
>>722530604>Muh Christianity.I can tell you are a Jew by the way you speak and Christianity is the first thing that pops up in your head. If anything the result is of Feminism, Leftism and Zionism pushing their values on people. I'm sure there's a few Catholics on the Hatred dev team considering its a Polish game company.
>>722532974>>722533125Also, in this case, you really can't say the revenge is portrayed as positive because your brother flat out just say it in cutscene format and everything that he literally "doesn't know who you are anymore" because you're "behaving like a monster" due to your quest for revenge since you're willing to kill the people you're after in very dishonorable and underhanded ways with no honor.And you basically end up losing shit at the end of the game, like, your brother specifically, and almost "losing yourself" or some shit like that before you end up having to raise his child, your nephew in a lesbian relationship with that woman you were after and wanted to kill but then suddenly decided to spare. Yes, the game basically ends up with you and another woman raising your brother's child together like you're a lesbian couple.Game literally follows that format of "revenge bad" by starting you out as this seemingly ruthless killing machine whose only task is to kill the people you seek revenge against while not allowing anything to stray you from your path to it, tries to show just how much of a vile animal or whatever you are being by giving in to your base impulses or whatever then suddenly has her be given a change of heart and now is like "NO! I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT ANYMORE! THIS BLOODSHED MUST END! I NOW SEE THE ERROR OF MY WAYS, AND I KNOW THAT SEEKING REVENGE IS BAD!"At the very least just do it properly, let her have her revenge in full while giving in completely to being a ruthless subhuman, only to then realize it was all for nothing and that she does not feel fulfilled now, if anything, she just feels even more empty, and then she just guts herself via seppuku to escape her life once she realize there's nothing else for her now that her goal is complete. It would seem very bleak and miserable, but that would convey they idea for it way better than anything else they tried going for.
Political discourse aside, I believe this game was always doomed to fail. Simply because of having a woman as the main character, and that the enemies you will be fighting are other Japanese people but criminals. Nobody is going to believe that the 90lb Japanese woman is going to be able to fight anything larger than your average dog. I admit I haven't watched many of the trailers but from what I gathered, it ain't no Mongol army invading. The stakes aren't as high and you don't have this inner turmoil of needing to abandon your beliefs to win like Jin did.Also the cruelty Atsu does compared to Jin is just distasteful. I can't remember a time Jin purposefully gave his enemies slow deaths outside of the mass poisoning incident, but even then that was done with a reason of avoiding more bloodshed on his fellow samurai. Its just less compelling to the average customer.
>>722533125>>722533610so they managed to top or at least match TLoU2 when it comes to bad and retarded writting... why am i not surprised? fucking hell, we are never going to get another epic adventure with jin and mongol genocide now, this franchise is over, and not becuase the new game flopped(though it did) and the studio is dead, but because the writers are definitely not the same. they are probably going to pump some even shittier games until it inevitably dies
>>722534095>muh realism1v10 isnt realistic no matter what's between your legs
>>722534289>ignores all other points
>>722534382You lost rajesh
>>722534289>1v10 isnt realistic
>>722534095>Also the cruelty Atsu does compared to Jin is just distasteful. I can't remember a time Jin purposefully gave his enemies slow deaths outside of the mass poisoning incident, but even then that was done with a reason of avoiding more bloodshed on his fellow samurai.she gotta show how much of a badass strong woman she is, but seriously, its the classic comedy where femenist ignorant roaties confuse being strong and masculine with being a total asshole and a cruel dick head
>>722534434see >>722534532 and commit sepuku
>>722534532I wonder if the guy who went under the bridge to spear the axe man's dick got praised or shunned. Because man what an awful but effective move.
>>722534554I also just remembered that even in that mass poisoning event, the entire Samurai army was horrified and shunned Jin immediately and arrested his ass. I'm going to doubt that any serious repercussions happen to Atsu due to her actions outside of some characters going "You've changed!" but nothing of consequence comes of it.
>>722530391Edgy nihilistic dogshit.>le... tons of le blood!Fuck off. It's not 1990s anymore. We must learn how to be better, not how to spread violence better...
>>722534095>it ain't no Mongol army invading. The stakes aren't as high and you don't have this inner turmoil of needing to abandon your beliefs to win like Jin did.This I think is the biggest issue with the set up for the game. You are an underdog, but an underdog to what? Some gay criminals? Does Atsu have any codes of honor she struggles with or does she go full murder-hobo from the jump?
>>722530139>REVENGE BADBecause this is the message they desperately need newer Generations to believe in since the people to get revenge on have fucked them over for life.Since everyone on the planet is figuring out who creates the most chaos and destruction, it's pretty obvious they are just trying to get ahead of the blowback.
>>722535000she has no ethics, that's the whole point of the game. she starts as a piece of shit more or less and completely ruthless, then by the end of the game she's supposed to have changed and become "better" in some way as in, she no longer seeks pointless revenge, and just wants to stop fighting and talk through problems. it doesn't work at all.
>>722530139>Why the fuck do they keep churning out this type of garbage out?Part of the Leftist agenda. Furthering soft on crime policies and whatnot.
When's the last time we got a game where you just play as the villain of the story though?
>>722535000>Does Atsu have any codes of honoryou bring another good point, i dont think that bitch is a proper warrior, let alone her being raised to be a honorable samurai, why wouldn't she kill? why wouldn't she used dirty tactics? what the hell is this fucking game... no stakes, no moral dilema, no reason to struggle with honor
why is the revenge bad theme so popular in media, what fucking revengewhat is your average human being revenging against for you to feel the need to communicate how bad this is in samurai ninja creed 2
>>722530139Gravity falls was the start of calarts slop, but I must give it credit for one moment in it that set it so far apart from everthing else at the time:>"Wow, that felt GREAT, revenge is underrated"Im certain that the reason why the "revenge bad" narrative is coming back around is the same reason it was popular in the 60s: libtards are terrified that if they dont gaslight you, you may hurt them half as much as they hurt you.As for me, I'm with the koreans, revenge is basically required.
>>722530139They even did it in the previous one, where the most treacherous evil cunt in the game was allowed to get away.
>>722535905Yeah but dishonest cultural warriors liked the first one so its gets a pass.
