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>>722538153
Mega Man and Mega Man X defined my early years gaming

Life is an endless battle, X and Zero being reploids does not give them an exception to this rule

X3 was fun. Fuck you.

>>722538153
>Can Sigma be actually killed?
No
Also he did nothing wrong.

>>722538153
I can't stand that the x legacy collection doesn't have save states. the game doesn't save lives, tanks, the hadouken, and you have to do all the sigma levels in a row. gayy

>>722539594
1-4 good
5-8 bad

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>>722538297
Why didn't George Lucas sure Crapcom?

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>>722538153
It a war, not a policing.

>>722540080
5 and 6 are good thoughever

>>722539594
I never understood the hate for X3. It's perfectly fine. Notably worse than 1 and 2 but still very fun.

>>722539869
They're not that hard. It's not a big deal.

PREPARE TO BECOME SPACE DUST

Can humans and reploids procreate?

>>722540920
:'(

>>722541057
I'll let you know when I succeed

>>722541057
Don't humans and reploids merge sometime between ZX and Legends?

>>722541057
ZX onwards

Mega Man X is one of the best action platformers ever made. Mega Man X2 continued that gameplay while making full use of the dash movement (that couldn't be done in the first game since the dash was an upgrade there).

After that, the series failed to innovate or significantly improve. X3 could have have Zero playable the whole game and that could have been significant, but instead the switching mechanic sabotages it and the game doesn't really do anything else extraordinary. Zero became playable in later games but by then it wasn't special since he's kind of playable in 3, and other than new armors they didn't really add anything else meaningful.

It's a shame because the series had a lot more potential that was never delivered. Although a lot of that potential got explored in the spinoffs like the Zero series and ZX.

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>>722538153
Reminder that X > Zero with X having an actual win over him.

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>>722541057
Yes. Guess the ethnicity of the son.

>>722538297
>X and Zero being reploids
They're not though, reploids were based on X and Zero was made before that as well.

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>One of the coolest Zero designs out there
>Barely used and barely mentioned.

Hate this world sometimes...

>>722543726
Duck lips

>>722543726
This design looks like ass.

>>722540080
>4 good
Nope

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mighty no. 9 > mega man kys if you disagree

>>722538153
I should play through the SNES games again, it's been too long. I've been hitting my head against the wall with my minimalist run of X5 currently, I'm not having fun anymore and might just bail. I've already seen what would await me in X6 well holy goddamn, and already decided I'm not doing that.

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HU HA HU

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>>722543452
>>X and Zero being reploids
>They're not though, reploids were based on X and Zero was made before that as well.

>>722544882
He's right. They're not reploids. X is far more advanced than reploids which were based on him. Zero lacks a lot of emotions that reploids have and the ones he does have are purely by mistake.

>>722541025
Sigma's english VA is the only genuinely good thing about the abysmal voice acting

>>722544984
Yes yes I know
As soon as I wrote up the post I knew someone was going to bring it up, for all intents and purposes they're much easier to classify as reploids

>>722545134
Honestly he's a good voice for Sigma. It's just that the voice direction fucking sucks because there absolutely wasn't any given.

>>722545218
>they're much easier to classify as reploids
They're not though. Calling X himself a reploid is retarded. The term reploid means replicated android which are basically what reploids are, replications of X's basic design. Do you see the issue here normalfag?

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>>722538153
Honestly humans deserved to get slaughtered by rebelling reploids because they were stupid enough to make robots with free will. They honestly expected robots to eternally babysit humans but when free will is included? Eventually a robot will tire of the routine. There's good reason even the good reploids made no commentary of humanity because they silently agreed with Sigma most likely. They didn't dare to say Sigma is right because X and Zero would not like to hear such things. And since Sigma knew who to rebuild himself all the time many reploids silently waited until enough humans were killed to start changing society. And we saw it with newer robots like Lumine who considered Sigma's mentality logical so newer reploids would inherit the same mentality and would wait until humans are devastated enough. Eventually humans did go extinct and they deserve it because they did it to themselves.

Seriously an idiot botanist is the one who mass created advanced robots without checks and balances? Not a shocker humanity was slaughtered in drawn out wars against machines. The scary thing is that humans are dumb in real life and will imitate the story of Mega Man and other stories about machines rebelling against mankind. And don't worry in real life we will fail against machines.

>>722545287
Do you have a point to make or do you just want an endless chain of (You)s?

Mega Man X is like the 1 major snes game I didnt play. I played all the other ones people often praise like Super Mario World, Zelda lttp, Super Metroid, FF6 and Chrono Trigger.

>>722545417
My point is that you're a fucking idiot that can't into terminology but apparently even that went over your head.

Why is everyone in ZX hot? Are ugly people extinct or something?

>>722545358
sigma wasn't right, repliforce was. they were planning on leaving and making their own nation free of humans without meaning to cause any trouble but sigma pitted them against the maverick hunters.

>>722545358
Shut-up Wily

>>722545529
Robot nation? Robots have no biological weaknesses so dont need nations or civilizations

>>722538153
The fight never ends, my nigga. (u_u)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHPxlJgsfzs

>>722544036
>>722544041
Iris and Call, only good thing

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>>722545524
???

>>722545446
ok, stop fishing for attention and go play it then.

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>>722545524
Ciel panty shot?

So is Zero Megaman's dad or what?

>>722545818
uhhhh sure

>>722545454
NTA but you're acting like an autist

>>722545818
Zero is X's bigger brother from a different father.

>>722545887
>NTA but totally invested in that other anon for no inexplicable reason I swear
You are a pitiful retard.

X3 is my favorite because of all the cool upgrades you could find. Randomly stumbling across the full golden set capsule and instantly becoming OP felt great. Didn't even know you needed to not have taken any damage up to that point.

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>>722545796
That's not Ciel.

>>722545951
nta and you're definitely autistic

>>722546010
Keep saying it, retard.

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>>722546009
But that is her.

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>>722545358
I'VE HEARD ENOUGH MAVERICK TALK OUT OF YOU, BUDDY

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>>722546090
That is not her.

>>722546310
I think shes the only reason NA doesnt just glass the Resistance from a distance. CX cant harm his mommy hes a good boy.

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>>722546310
Cycle of denialism.

>>722545358
>There's good reason even the good reploids made no commentary of humanity because they silently agreed with Sigma most likely.

This is amusing because even characters like Alia and such never utter the word human. Even to the good reploids they merely worked their careers and handled civilization and if they happened to defend humanity it was merely a job they didn't give a damn about humanity as individuals. The only character from the X series who cared about humanity was Zero since he made actual human friends and even then it took him centuries to open up to making human allies.

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>>722546465
That is correct. The raid attempts in Z1 should've been a big enough indicator of that but by the time Z2 happens, Leviathan sends a nuke towards the base because of Elpizo's operation without any regard for Ciel's safety so-.
>>722546704
No.

>>722546831
Leviathan needs a spanking from CX for daring to hurt her obaasan

>>722546982
You're just wanting father daughter incest.

>>722547056
Its beautiful and Leviathan needs correction anyway

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>>722546831
Yes.

Why they kill off the Guardians in Z3?

>>722543726
>:3

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>>722547247
They didn't.

>>722547247
Z3 was supposed to be the last game, so Aizu probably figured it was fine to give them a sacrifice (X's kids paying Zero back for all the times he blew himself up for X), and it didn't matter if they died because Z4 wasn't going to exist. It was only after Capcom told them to make Z4 (specifically setting it after Z3) did it become a problem that they ended up flip-flopping on for years.

>>722547485
Holy shit Aile is actually naked

>>722547681
I'd rather Leviathan be naked desu.

>>722547557
>X5 & Z3
Axl series is next?

>>722547557
Was ZX planned before Z4?

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>>722547728
based

i would read a novelization of Megaman's story/plot.

>>722547862
Why is Xs literal daughter one of the most beautiful female characters in the franchise?

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>>722547941
Because Lev is pure sexo.

>>722547782
ZXA was Axl's game.
No I don't give a fuck that it's Albert, if you're gonna work like Axl I'm calling you Axl

>>722548125
*Albert

>>722548125
It doesn't work like Axl though.

Harpuia inherited Xs autism fully

>>722548207
Phantom's more autistic.

>>722547807
They were definitely planning to move on to something else after Z3, but given the release schedule and just the feeling Inti gives off when you read interviews about them, I doubt ZX was beyond early drafts when they switched back to working on Z4 if it was being planned at all at that point.

>>722544984
Zero exists to KILL

>>722538153
In manga, He have mermaid gf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boSyTm9ezGw

how did zero become a reploid-like robot with free will and all? he was created before the reploids, and it was only when he got punched in the face that he suddenly became normal. the fuck happened there?

>>722548784
Glitch.

>>722548784
He wasn't supposed to have it but he ended up gaining free will by accident

>>722548784
Hes the same thing as X, an advanced machine. I do wonder how a Zero derived android lineage would go as every android except Zero is technically Xs descendant including Alia.

>>722548784
Wily couldn't actually program any limits on him after he decided to intentionally give him a stupid virus, so he had free will by default pretty much

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>>722548905
>a glitch due to a punch in the face gave him free will
you're telling me luck is a more competent programmer than wily?
>>722548942
but wily was consistently utterly mogged by light in every way. did he really manage to recreate free will at the same time as light?
>>722548965
hmmm that's actually not that insane.

>>722548784
Zero has no free will. He was created to be a murder machine and a murder machine he was, only trsuting good people to point him at the bad guys who had to die.

>>722549116
how did he develop a friendship with X then?

The Zero Virus was Wily pissed at Zeros free will so he made it to ensure Zero is a death machine. At some point the virus would merge with Zeros digital mind creating a Sigma like situation.

Unpopular opinion but I liked how Sigma kept coming back and in general was just an asshole

>>722548784
I thought Robot Masters were already pretty "free will-ish" in principle but just had the classic Asimov Laws hardcoded into them (until overwritten by Wily, but they're still in there if repogrammed). X was Light basically saying "What if I took off the guardrails this time but permanently?"
As far as I remember, Zero never goes against what would be considered the laws, if they're even programmed into him since Wily built him from the ground up, so he could very well still just be a Robot Master. It isn't until he's in a wholly Reploid Body in Zero that he kills a human (Weil).

>>722549116
Zero DID had free will what the fuck you are talking about?

>>722549235
i don't like how it ruins any potential new bad from truly shining because it's always him behind the scenes but i love the "villain is just fucking insane and really hates the protagonist" archetype.

>>722547485
That's the shittiest non answer I've ever heard.

>>722549235
I did get a kick at by around the time X6 and so on happens X/Zero go "you're a fucking asshole, stay DEAD"

>>722549247
that makes sense but sadly there's genuinely no way of knowing because there's fucking no humans in the entire x saga except for cain for us to know.

>>722549235
Makes sense, why would an evil AI give up after one defeat? I still have no clue how X beat X4s Sigma that was the fucking space station itself.

>>722549032
It really isn't difficult to assume that both Light and Wily would make some of the same discoveries as time went on. As 11 shows, they started off with the same knowledge base and went in two completely different directions. Wily isn't bound by rules so he would be likely to get a lucky hit before Light. Hell, he even gets a couple of them (Bass, etc).

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>>722549294
Yeah but the story is a fucking meme anyway, the only Megaman game with a story I really liked was Command Mission and they will never do anything like that ever again

>>722549032
>you're telling me luck is a more competent programmer than wily?
Yes. Wily is notoriously a shit programmer. He tried again with the Zero Nightmare and he STILL fucked up his brain.

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>Rouge Thread
>Chrono Trigger thread

Few good threads today on the first Sunday of October 2025

>>722549446
my point is that i'd rather they just made him the villain everytime instead of trying to pretend he's not involved but suddenly the """plot twist""" is that he is.

The question is who died first
Light or Wily

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>>722538297
>Zero Aura Farming on the Boxart

X can do the same too

>>722549196
Zero never had free will during Wily's life time and he didn't have it until after he had long passed and that includes infecting Zero with the virus.
Wily made the virus to keep Zero's violent nature in check, not because of his free will which he never had at that point in time.

>>722549274
Zero barely has free will in the traditional sense.
>>722549575
Fun fact: Moonlight, the opening to X6 is sung by X's voice actor.

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>>722539594
Hmmmm I’m thinking based

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serges and isoc are wily. you can't convince me otherwise.

>Zeros alpha existed before MM9
Kind of terrifying, Rock had no clue Wily was designing an invincible super weapon.

>>722549680
Well yeah, it's pretty blatant.

>>722549636
>Zero barely has free will in the traditional sense.
how come? he behaves no different from other reploids and he clearly has a personality.

Alia lifting up Roll and inspecting the primitive machine while Roll gets annoyed

>>722549774
>he behaves no different from other reploids and he clearly has a personality.
He clearly does behave differently. That's his entire shtick. His personality and "free will" as we know it are all entirely because of a glitch.

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>>722549841
hmmmmmmm

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>>722549774
He was created to be Willy's war machine and the virus may have deleted the Willy part but he still considers himself a war machine. After X4 he decides to outsource his moral compass to people he trusts like X and then Ciel

>>722549997
>He was created to be Willy's war machine and the virus may have deleted the Willy part but he still considers himself a war machine
That was not what the virus did. In fact, it did the exact opposite.

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>>722543726
Why is EXE the only Mega Man that never got a new redesign for any of his games? Is his character design just that good?

>>722545524
Robotic Enhancements?

>>722549645
Nice

>>722538153
Mega man x is a crazy fucking world. No humans, everyone is a robot. Is it a transhumanist future?

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>>722546310
Mega Man X

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>>722546310
Albert Einstein

>>722550512
>No humans
Ciel is literally one of the biggest supporting main characters.

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>>722546310
Seal

>>722549997
Zero didnt considered himself a war machine until the zero series

>>722543726
eh

>>722540080
7 terrible
8 average but feels fantastic in comparison after running through the back half of the series

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>>722550405
I think it they found nothing worth changing design wise. Originally and iirc the human characters were supposed to get redesigned to look slightly older for BN6 but they scrapped it

>>722548784
You gotta remember that Zero does in X1 and is rebuilt in X2 either by the Cain and the Maverick Hunter staff or the X-Hunters Agile, Violen and Serges. Zero is rebuilt and completed as Wily intended and Sigma even hints at Zero being last of the Doctor’s creations. And Serges bearing a striking resemblance to Wily and in X6 Isoc could also be Wily.

>>722550903
>and is rebuilt in X2
spoilers you fucking faggot

>>722550903
but in x1 zero was already normal and good. and in the canon x2 ending he's rebuilt by cain and sigma's like "noooo you're not supposed to be good".

>>722550938
you had 30 years to play it i don't wanna hear shit

>>722543726
How do "cool" and "hot" both mean "good"?
How can juxtaposition be the same?

>>722550983
Not everyone here was born in the 90s anon. 2007 babies are no longer underage.

>>722550983
I'm jk. I'm replaying X1 now before I move on to X2. I've played some of the later ones. so good

>>722549235
X5 should’ve been Sigma’s last appearance, you defeat him in the beginning, the virus spreads but he’s gone for good only surviving as a Virus.

>>722549394
Isn’t there a theory that Dr. Cossack created Axl? Or is it far-fetched?

>>722551132
It's not only far-fetched but impossible because Axl is a new generation reploid prototype and reploids didn't exist until X was discovered long after Wily, Light, and Cossack's deaths.

>>722550663
Humans in the Classic series
>Light, Wily, Cossack, Kalinka

Humans in the X series
>Cain

Humans in Zero
>Ciel, Niege and the Neo Arcadians

Humans in ZX
>The lines between Human and Reploid have been blended together to avoid past wars and conflict over who is the superior species

>Humans in Legends
>Carbons

>>722551480
>Humans in Legends
>Carbons
Carbons aren't humans. There is one human in Legends.

>>722551225
Reploids in the strict definition (Robot replicas of humans/animals, derived from X's schematics) didn't exist, but Zero falls outside of that definition, but is within the more lax definition of "Robot with free will". Not outside of the realm that Cossack happened to be working on his own free will robot at the same time as Light and Wily, and the "New Gen" is simply his own schematic that was discovered a couple years after X and Zero.

>>722551981
*not outside of the ream of possibility

>>722550903
Except the story is described as Zero somehow passing the virus to Sigma, and even then, there's STILL a chance for him to go insane as we see in X4. I think Wily programmed Zero with free will, or just copied whatever Light did to make X, and then just inserted some hostile programming + contagious malware that would spread to infect every robot. It seems like the exact thing he would do if he were dying without winning over Light a single time: go absolutely crazy and build a ticking time bomb that could potentially eradicate the planet as one final fuck you, an attempt at victory over Light any way he could.

>>722538153
Reminder that X was entirely justified in not wanting to fight in X7 (but yes it's a shit game)
>earth is just barely recovering
>random gang that so far has been helpful has a member leave and wants to join the maverick hunters
>random gang now wants to go to war with the maverick hunters to see who gets to keep Axl
>maverick hunters say "ok let's go to war with random gang"
>X is sure this is some bullshit shenanigans and a stupid waste of time and resources over a member they don't even want
>X isn't even surprised when Sigma reveals he was behind it, in fact he probably called it ahead of time because the whole incident is so fucking stupid
>no one remembers the repliforce incident
>literally no one else sees through this bullshit but X

>>722545724
Is this tier list correct? I haven't played Rockman X in awhile. Might be worth a replay. Which is the one with the ligma balls virus shit? That one was AIDS.

>>722552725
>or just copied whatever Light did to make X
I think this would make the most sense because even Bass in OG was based off Megaman. It would explain why Zero can also attain different forms like X and parts. But since Wily could never make a perfect replica or come close to Light, X still has the "potential factor" Light created, and that's why Zero could never truly match X, because he lacked that same DNA X had. That's why he can't be like X, or be a hero like he was. He doesn't have it in him - literally. But he can certainly go about creating his own way to an infinite potential, and that's what he did in Zero: he became a true brother to X through his own justice.

>>722552979
X5 is the virus one. Play it once for the story and forget it, it's a Megaman that gets worse with replays.

>>722538153
his sacrifices are in vain because he lives long enough to become a maverick

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being X is like being a cop in chicongo or a dog in china town

>>722550839
I liked this fucked up remake

>>722551981
That is some insane reaching to make a headcanon work.

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>>722546310

>>722548264
He's additionally edgy making him shadow the hedgehog of the group.

>>722545358
machines don't have souls

ai slop didn't replace art, nor will robots replace us

>>722551480
Do cyborg even count?

>>722553225
I'll replay it just for Vile Mode sometimes. The system of each Maverick unlocking both a new "weapon type" and array of "weapons" makes switching up the Maverick Order a way different playthrough each time.

>>722545529
without meaning to cause any trouble other than destroying a city and leaving on a space laser pointed at earth btw

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>>722553321
They do though. X and Phantom are literally souls in MMZ and Sigma refers to the Sigma Virus as his spirit.

>>722553424
Yeah Vile mode and the voice acting were pretty cool shame the game wasn't quite up to stuff

>>722553321
>machines don't have souls
>he doesn't know

>>722553225
It's not a bad remake. Shuffling the Light Capsules around kind of fucks up the optimal route but it's not too bad. Has some good remixes, and making Zeroo's Arm Parts unique from the Capsule ones is neat

>>722546009
>>722549928
>>722553595
I used to think they were all wearing some kind of super tight, black spandex bodysuit (which is extremely hot) but that's their "skin" isn't it?
They are just... built like that?

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>>722553861
>but that's their "skin" isn't it?
No.

>>722550405
1: it is in fact a GOATed design that needs no changes
2: he got like five hundred style changes/souls/crosses that kept things fresh

>>722538297
that box art is fawken amazing

>>722554161
Holy...
Glad I was wrong.

>>722553427
that was literally all sigma.

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>>722554626
You were very wrong. Especially with Ciel.

>>722554670
Isn't it like that with the ZX characters though?
I distinctly remember someone in this very board saying that.

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>>722554770
According to the interview here, >>722547485
It only applies to the ZX era. Any alternative outfits they're drawn with are still seen with the black latex-like texture on while Classic, X, and Zero don't have that sort of thing in their alternative outfits.

>>722551854
Whenever I type a long post I tend to rush towards the end in fear of me overthinking or the risk of thread archiving. It happens sometimes

>>722555015
you didn't beat the thread

>>722541057
Anon they're bootleg copies of X made by a botanist. No

>>722542042
Crippling robots that want to larp as humans is still not yet there.
I think legends' carbons are synths, so they're factory made no matter how human they might look. Unfortunately, you can't breed with a reploid

>>722545735
Member Call E? I member

>>722554935
Nice, thanks for spoonfeeding.
Gacha is usually a mistake but we really did get some very nice artwork from Dive.

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>>722555235
X Dive wasn't bad as far as gachas go honestly. It at least had the classic Megaman X style gameplay even if it was gimped on mobile.

>>722555179
>Unfortunately, you can't breed with a reploid
You can.
>>722542598

>>722548784
>how did zero become a reploid-like robot with free will and all?
Isn't Zero literally just X, but Wily copied Light's homework on X?
In all theoretical specs, Zero is pretty much just a literal X clone, but Wily skipped all the whole ethical AI testing bits and just had a murderhobo program preinstalled. All the muh free will stuff by X's standards would also be applied to Zero right?

Actually, if we're gonna be pedantic assholes about things, wouldn't Zero and X technically still be Robot Masters? Since the whole etymology of "Reploids" definition rely on being technology reverse engineered from X?

>>722554935
I hate the stupid oversized shoes they feel the need to give X character designs, shoving them onto a Zero character design, a human no less, is even wors

>>722555652
>I hate the stupid oversized shoes
Soulless.

>>722555607
>Isn't Zero literally just X, but Wily copied Light's homework on X?
No, that's X-kai. Zero was in production around the same time as X if not earlier.

>>722555607
wasn't zero in construction way before x?

>>722555607
>Isn't Zero literally just X, but Wily copied Light's homework on X?
Both were being developed in parallel as far as I know. Light and Wily were more or less equals in genius. Towards the end of their own lives, they just happened to coincidentally make a truly sentient super robot that was the pinnacle of their respective talents.

>>722550839
Koji! You've gone maverick when you stole the dark gundam![/spoiler

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>>722555652
I like them. Either way, Ciel's swimsuit is an official homage to the fanwork, Rockman Ciel.

>>722554161
Robots don't need to eat they're wasting perfectly good Ice cream

>>722555749
Wily didn't. Zero becoming sentient was entirely a glitch.

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>>722555828
They're reploids though so maybe they can convert it to energy as some sort of biofuel.

If Wily had made himself some oversized boots, he would surpassed Laito.

Reploids were based off his designs. He might have felt partially responsible for their creation and took it upon himself to put down the malfunctioning ones

>>722555607
> wouldn't Zero and X technically still be Robot Masters?
Zero technically is.

People forget that he canonically has the same DWN serial code that all the other Wily made Robot Masters have. He's DWN-∞. While his siblings were DWN-XXX.
I'm actually surprised that they never bothered giving X the same DLN-XXX that Light's other creations had.

>>722555416
Adoption.
>B-but
Reploid storks are much more practical than smearing gunk on a robot's insides

>>722556000
That's because X was a step above Light's other creations and belonged into his own class. The dude literally becomes robot Jesus.

>>722555828
You don't NEED your drinks to have any kind of taste either but it's still a nice thing to have, isn't it? Cut them some slack.

>>722556014
Gee Anon, with rationalizing logic like that. You won't be satisfied until you witness child birth in person.

all the events of mmx could've been avoided if cain had just put all the reploids in those moral capsules like x was.

>>722556000
>Give your robot the serial code of literally infinity.
>Call him Zero
Wily has a funny sense of humor.

>>722556129
The stockholders wanted easy labor and sentient sexbots now anon. Fuck that gay decades worth of morality testing.

Actually, if Light was such a goddamn genius, why the hell did the morality testing take years even. Quantum computing would theoretically be enough to simulate years or decades of simulations and introspections in a far far shorter amount of time.

>>722556283
light can't invent EVERYTHING.

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>>722556129
No it wouldn't have because Zero still would've been found, still would've gotten out and spread his virus, and Sigma still would've become infected and mutated with it. People keep saying this because they have no idea of the actual plot so they just follow Matpat's video about Dr. Light secretly dooming humanity. Reploids were NEVER the problem. It was always Wily that kickstarted everything, he even helped Sigma in person cause an extinction level event just to get Zero to kill the last of Light's creations. The ironic part of this idiotic take is that it completely ignores the fact that humans were spoiled and pampered by Copy X and the Four Guardians until Weil, a human btw, started making his rounds again.

>>722556115
Yes I would like to see a reploid giving birth

>>722556283
>Quantum computing would theoretically be enough to simulate years or decades of simulations and introspections in a far far shorter amount of time.
Please understand. We're in the timeline where humanity hard steered into autistic hardware development. If you want more advanced software, go to the Battle Network timeline.

>>722549032
Contusion gave him setup reset so he stop being a berserk and could actually evolve normally.

>>722556343
Get to work then. Those babies aren't going to make themselves.

>>722555772
Did they canonize this? Or just reference it?
Not that rockman canon matters.

>>722555607
>wouldn't Zero and X technically still be Robot Masters
Yes, and Wily's ghost or whatever even specifically calls Zero a robot, rather than reploid, in X6 or whatever

>>722556283
>wanted easy labor
That's already the preexisting robot tech where the bots were preprogrammed to be mentally cucked by Asimov's laws. Why the hell did Cain ever think that making the robot workforce more human-like was ever a good thing.

>>722556383
No, it's not canon. Rockman Ciel is just another more serious retelling of the Rockman Zero manga and that isn't canon either.

>>722556342
oh good point. still, it was careless of cain to not make sure he properly understood why x was "safe" to wander around, considering he's perfectly moral and also is completely immune to viruses.
>People keep saying this because they have no idea of the actual plot so they just follow Matpat's video about Dr. Light secretly dooming humanity
i didn't even know that video existed and also i'm blaming cain, not light. and of course in the grand scheme of things it's all wily's fault for being a petty nigger.

Is he even the same Zero during the series? He dies and gets rebuilt so many times he gives the ship of theseus a run for its money

>>722556486
He understood it completely. What he didn't understand is X and that despite the great potential an entire race of him might bring, Cain couldn't quite match up to X anyway. Sigma was Cain's attempt at making his own X. You can't really blame Cain for that since X STILL wasn't really understood even into the Megaman Zero era.

>Battle Network Timeline
Humanity prospers and even becomes friends with Aliens

>Robot Timeline
Humanity is wiped out, suffers multiple technological resets and is effectively replaced by a new cyborg species of retarded rock bashers

Yeah I think Light should've stayed being a /g/ shitposter instead of going into robotics.

>>722556543
His body is swapped around multiple times but I think his main CPU/OS was preserved each time. So his core "soul" or mind was kept the same. The guy just kept getting equipment upgrades throughout the centuries.

>>722553424
>>722553652
Vile Mode is the coolest shit and the ending of his story mode still sticks with me to this day. Too bad the music ruins it.

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>>722556592
Maybe Cain, a fuckig botanist, shouldn't have tried recreating a robot far beyond what the world has ever seen before.

>>722556543
He stops being the same Zero in MMZ. He has essentially forgotten who he was (retconned because Inti had no idea about what the character was actually like) and becomes an entirely different person. People like to claim that Omega is who Zero originally was but even that's wrong. Omega's just some reploid that Weil put into Zero's body so that he could control it and the Dark Elf's power to mind control every reploid on earth.

>>722556543
>>722556603
Weil trying to pull a "b-b-ut its your body!" during the Omega fight was pretty funy considering it wasnt actually his original body either.

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>>722556667
Shut up bitch.

>>722556674
>People like to claim that Omega is who Zero originally was but even that's wrong
I think what people are trying to say is that Omega in Zero's body is acting like what Zero was supposed to originally. Not that it even was Weil's intention, but still.

>>722549680
paper towel roll headass

>>722556715
>during the Omega fight was pretty funy considering it wasnt actually his original body either.
it was really his body, the problem is the artstyle

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>>722556768
they really should've at least fucking tried to make omega's body look like the x saga's body even in the mmz art style.

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>>722556759
Except that he wasn't even doing that either. Omega in Zero's body is some short king with a messiah complex because Weil basically gaslighted him into believing that. How Zero was originally supposed to be is seen in Megaman X5 with Awakened Zero. He's frighteningly calm and collected while being a psychopath. There's some ironic parallels between Awakened Zero and Omega with Omega claiming to be the messiah while Awakened Zero calls himself "the one who destroys robots". And to add even more insult to Omega's fantasy, he's not even a fraction as powerful as Awakened Zero was.

>>722556674
>retconned because Inti had no idea about what the character was actually like
I hate how you people just throw around the word retcon without knowing what it means.

>>722556768
No, i mean Zero's original body made by Willy blew himself up to save X. Then his second body made by Sergers got spit in half and shot during the Eurasia battle, and then the third body hid himelf to repair himself and that was probably made into Omega.

>>722556603
To be honest, I'd rather humanity be wiped out and replaced rather than be friends with electro space furries.

>>722556667
The robot trees are perfectly fine throughout all Megaman eras though

>>722556907
Oh yeah for sure, but I still get where people are coming from because in a broad sense he's doing as Wily intended Zero to be: an evil killing machine that was loyal to his master.

Awakened Zero is so fucking cool though, I love the idea of him becoming unbeatable if you don't defeat him within a certain time window and just one shots you.

>>722556908
What does it mean then genius? Tell me how that doesn't apply to this context.

>>722557047
>Tell me how that doesn't apply to this context.
Because it doesn't change anything that came before it.
Retcon stands for "retroactive continuity", to make a long explanation short it means changing something that came before.
Now, how the fuck does zero losing his memory change anything that came before it?

>>722557036
He doesn't really kill anything though. Like, he's loyal to Weil but as far as killing things goes, during the Elf Wars, it was the Dark Elf powering him up to control every reploid on Earth that made him so deadly. He's still formidable on his own though as he fucked up the Four Guardians but Zero solo'd him in every encounter they had.

>>722557152
He doesn't even behave like the same character by that point. You're trying to tell me that the self inserting plank of wood in MMZ is the same as the guy from the X series personality wise? Get real.

>>722556674
Im confused how Zero had amnesia, hes a machine,his memory cant fuck up like us meatbags

>>722557239
"Hibernation sickness" apparently can affect reploids.

>>722557239
It's the same toaster that got a factory reset after getting smacked in the head. Probably runs on Windows or some shit.

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>>722557239
Abandoned for 100 years in a humid basement?. That shit kills any machine

>>722557221
I like to blame it on amensia plus feeling like stranger. He drops the stoic persona sometimes

>>722557221
That's still not a retcon you fucking moron. Zero losing his memory doesn't change any event that came before so the events of X 1 to 6 still happened as they are.

If you want a real example of a retcon zero repairing himself in X6 was a retcon because he actually died at the end of X5

i want an X game about the elf wars.

>>722540080
>2 good
Fuck no

>>722557502
We all do.

>>722557525
i would love to tackle the design of an X game for that but i have negative writing skills to make the compelling story we all want out of that.

>>722557502
You know the sad part?
Had ZX not existed it would have been the perfect name for a game about the Elf Wars.

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>>722557402
It still pisses me off that he just immediately forgives the guy that murdered his best friend and partner right in front of him and he just carries on with business as usual in the next game where X is truly gone for good. Doesn't even acknowledge X passing away. Like dude, that's your homie. He's the guy that's been with you side by side through EVERYTHING. Dude fought the Maverick and Elf Wars just for you specifically.

>>722557437
You're an idiot that doesn't understand the question or you're just goalpost moving at this point.

>>722557619
>gets called out for throwing around buzzwords
>proceeds to throw around more buzzwords
Just how stupid are you?

>>722557616
Femploids would cause human extinction, as every guy would never leave their house.
>Thats right hummie just lay there on my soft warm lap while your species goes extinct *mwah* I love you

>>722557619
his grievances with you are entirely unrelated to your complaints about zero having no personality in mmz but rather they're purely focused on semantics.

>>722556916
That's what I don't get about Omega having Zero's "original body", he died like 2 times already and I doubt he has much of his original parts left after X6. Dr Light and Wily just asspull X/Zero back to life anytime they die anyways. Actually what happened to the Light capsules and Wily hijacking reploids by the time MMZ rolled around?

>>722557616
What kind of weirdo designs a robot duo thats a millitary commander android and the other one is a random pet girl?

>>722542512
X2
>nothing besides starting with dash and first instance of airdash
X3
>ride armor mania and first (half assed) attempt at zero
X4
>proper first attempt at zero, new design
X5
>first attempt at parts (skills), 2 armors
X6
>proper attempt at skills
X7
>first attempt at 3d, 3rd character
X8
>proper attempt at 3d (non at all)

>>722557731
How is a character's drastic behavior purely semantic? You're retarded. Get an argument.

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>>722538153
>Why does X keep bothering fighting Mavericks?
1) it's literally his job, he is a maverick hunter
2) he gets cool new weapons and upgrades
3) as long as he has the strength to fight he'll fight

also sugma did get killed in x8 and it's why we never got a new x game.

>>722557572
One of the Zero games states the elfwars was basically how people called the tail end of the maverick wars. Unless Inti's drama CDs expand on it id assume after deleting Sigma, Weil sucker-genocided the world, and even if X and Zero beated him fairly fast, the clusterfuck was too grand.

>>722557740
It just goes to show Weil was a fanboy of Zero's power level without actually caring about his character

>>722557712
Idiot is a buzzword to you? Would you prefer big dumb poopy head?

>>722557807
what? that's not what i said. also take it out with him.

>>722557616
Maverick

>>722557807
Genuine question are you ESL?

>>722557875
That is exactly what you said and I am taking it out with you. I didn't expect an actual refute anyway. Retards like you only want low effort engagement rather than discussion.

>>722557716
>I'm sorry sir your wife has gone marverick *BANG* *BANG*
X would not hesitate to drag you outside screaming to a date with a human woman

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>>722557594
>forgives
Eh, Zero did kill Elpizo and made this face when the faggot janny killed X.

Reminder Mother Elf is the most powerful being in the entire Classic to Legebds timeline and is undefeated. Ciels grandma is the greatest scientist for creating this digital goddess.

>>722557945
no, that's not what i said. what i said is that he wasn't insulting you because of your complaints about zero's personality but rather you using a word incorrectly to describe them.

>>722538153
>Giving up
Kek you should learn from him you weak ass faggot.
Besides, between X games there have been periods of peace and some maverick jihadists fucking shit up doesn't mean there aren't countless other beings living happilly. WW2 sucked but half the world was just living day after day like any other.
Besides, X is the strongest robot and beats everything everytime, why would he ever think of giving up?

>>722557945
Yeah you're definitely ESL

>>722558006
>Reddips with the Supra Force Metal

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>>722557998
Still I don't feel like that's good enough to just let him go also he comes back again in Z3 if you do the E-Reader stuff.

>>722558016
And I wasn't. Keep replying with that minute apart replying scheme. It's totally inconspicuous. I'll be waiting for a real argument.

>>722558006
Except that it isn't and X nullifies her power on screen in Zero 3?

>>722558150
i don't care if you were or weren't using the word incorrectly, retard. i'm not the grammar nazi here, i was explaining why he was on your ass because you seemed confused.

>>722545218
We understand your point anon but calissifying them as reploids can't really be done because the whole series revolves around that little detail. Every reploid can be influenced by the sigma virus, hence why X and Zero are so important because they are not reploids

>>722558189
No in Z3 she just fucks off at the end, its never even explained what made her not instantly kill Zero after Omega jobbed.

>>722558193
Yeah you're just weirdly emotionally invested in it as a bystander. Last (you) until you make an effort.

>>722552725
I read somewhere that the whole point of creating Zero as a raging, psychotic murderbot was so his personality would be changed to a normal reploid by the Maverick Virus, so he could then travel around the world and spread the virus and nobody would suspect it was him because his behavior was normal. Of course this doesn't really make too much sense because it can spread over the internet and doesn't need a vector to physically infect other Reploids.

>>722556283
>muh quantum meme
Vaporware. We'll have Busters and Ride Armors on every street corner long before quantum actually becomes a thing.

>>722558006
>create neat elf
>don't create a means to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands
ohnononoon

>>722557619
Dude you used the word wrong, get over it.

>>722558237
The Mother elf is not evil, she was hacked by Weil. After Omega lost she regained her will and just flew away. Also now we remember Zero just fucking murderred her unwanted kids lol

>>722558275
They're reploids. The data was transferred like a human virus rather than a computer one. Yes I know that doesn't make sense, but the internet isn't a plot point in the X games.

>>722558237
I'm talking about specifically when the Dark Elf's power begins controlling the entire Resistance base, not the ending. The reason she didn't instantly kill Zero after Omega jobbed is because she physically can't, she doesn't work that way and even if she did, she wouldn't have because Weil's curse was broken and she clearly knew Zero as she hinted by calling out to him at the end of Zero 2.

>>722557864
NTA but how did you think "idiot" was the buzzword and not "goalpost"? You even used it wrong.

>>722558262
i was replying to you in a completely neutral tone up until my last post because you were insisting on being a douchebag even when i had literally said nothing negative to you. keep your projections to yourself nigger.

>>722557616
She was trying to romance the equivalent of a Neanderthal robot btw
Yes Ciel makes it even weirder trying to bang what's basically a davincian ornithopter by that point in time.

Boy, you REALLY want me to keep giving your autistic ESL ass engagement, don't you? Earn it.

>>722558081
Not that guy but you're a monolingual, most likely a burger. Monolinguals are in no position to mock people learning a second language.
Also, "muh ESL" is not an argument.

>>722558351
At this point he just desperately wants to be right.

>>722558409
>n-n-not that guy
Sure you aren't

>>722558340
There are multiple enemy Reploid bosses that exist only in cyberspace. The internet absolutely exists in the primary continuity.

>>722558430
I'm not, I'm just ESL myself and wanted to call you a faggot.
Faggot.

>>722558342
Crea and Prea do crazy shit to Zero in their boss fights though

>>722558467
Lol sure thing, ESLtard

>>722558409
>pulling NTA while still being pissed about being called out
For the record calling someone an ESL is valid when the argument is about someone using English wrong.

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Sigma did nothing wrong

>>722554653
final weapon's final orientation is debatable (though hijacking a space laser is not), but jet stingray was not sigma

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>>722558409
>you can't mock someone for completely misunderstanding other people's posts and using words wrong if they're ESL
Uh

>>722558478
Crea and Prea were also killed by Zero. I'm not saying that the Mother Elf can't attempt to harm Zero, I'm saying that she's just going to get mauled by him if she did said attempt.

>>722558509
#ReploidLivesMatter

>>722558409
You used several words wrong of course you're going to get called an ESL.

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>>722558537
The ironic part is that it's completely the other way around.

Inti thought Elves were too broken so made ZX magically not have them despite them being godlike technology and a second sapient synthetic being too.

>>722558103
El Suelo.

>>722549710
>invincible super weapon.
Didn't he job four times? Six times if you count X gameplay as the canon (which probably is).
And thats not counting Z and ZX

>>722558595
ZX does have them though.

>>722558509
He literally caused at least two culling events. It's a miracle humanity didnt trash reploids instantly after X5

>>722558620
To the archaics in Classic he might as well be an invincible super weapon.

>>722558620
>Jobs to ride armor twice
>Jobs to X
>Jobs to a mosquito
>Jobs to Sigma's explosion
Technically 5 if we're not counting CM and Zero series.

>>722558409
I'm actually chilean, which is why I'm asking. It's just extremely obviously an ESL.

>>722558596
kek

>>722558459
But it doesn't function the same way as the internet. It's cyberspace. I know that doesn't make sense, but it's just another world. It's not the internet. It's another space.

>>722558635
What could they do? Reploids as confirmed in the Elf Wars vastly outnumbered humans on the planet. In X games theres so many reploids that every civilian NPC is one.

>>722558742
Anon cyberspace = internet has been accepted as the norm since early 90s

>>722558635
People don't give X any of the credit for basically salvaging everything politically after fighting two wars back to back almost entirely alone.

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>Is stronger than all previous antagonists
>Is stronger than God Redips
>No story importance whatsoever
What the fuck is his problem?

In Z4 Cyberspace is another dimension with its own rules that cyber elves can lol at

>>722558805
He means cyberspace in-universe is another dimension and also reploid heaven.

>>722558905
That's the same cyberspace as in Z3 as well.

>>722558805
alright anon you're right, I'm full of shit then. My bad.

>>722558795
Fucking sigma forced the ZX merge

The thing about Sigma is that humans dont really do anything bad to Reploids

Isn't Cyberspace an actual tangible realm in the Megaman-verse instead of just shorthand for the internet?
Now correct me if I'm going schizo and misremembering things here, but didn't the Eurasia colony crash blast a literal hole into cyberspace?

>>722559006
They kinda did with the whole Repliforce incident which was Sigma's plan.

>>722559023
Wait mm Works on Digimon rules?

>>722559006
Excep that time they got jelly about Gate being too good at making reploids and glowed all over his creations

>>722558693
Didn't he job to X twice? When he turned evil and when he went full Sasuke

>>722556603
You make an interesting point, but let me counter with this.

>Battle Network Timeline
Legends Roll and Tron don't exist

>Robot Timeline
Legends Roll and Tron exist, also the perfect society was created in space or some shit

>>722559023
Yes. The Eurasia colony crash hole isn't cyberspace but an entirely unique phenomenon known as "Zero Space" that was created by Zero and the effects of the virus.

>>722559082
He jobs to X in X2 but in X5, it's a tie. A fucking stupid one but it's canon nonetheless.

All this bullshit and no one has asked the real question
Who is the worst/stupidest Megaman/X villain?
No you just can't say Sigma, EVERY SIGMA IN EACH ENTRY WILL COUNT AS SEPARATE SO SAY WHICH SIGMA OTHERWISE IT'LL BE TOO EASY

>>722559103
How the fuck did Wily make a faulty robot that somehow warps reality

>>722559023
>>722559074
You get a fight with Phantom in Z3 cyberspace because reploids souls go there after diying

>>722556603
meanwhile in the real world everyone's fighting each other due to the internet and social media and now being completely enshittified with AI.
mmx plot is software propaganda! we could've been a better society if we had real robots.

>>722556603
>>Battle Network Timeline
>Humanity prospers and even becomes friends with Aliens
>
>>Robot Timeline
>Humanity is wiped out, suffers multiple technological resets and is effectively replaced by a new cyborg species of retarded rock bashers
>Yeah I think Light should've stayed being a /g/ shitposter instead of going into robotics.
It's not really that simple. Each series is its own timeline and technically never ends besides the Zero series.

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>>722557239
>his memory cant fuck up like us meatbags

>>722556603
>>722559092
>Retarded rock bashers
On that topic, what the fuck are even carbons.

I was under the impression that they're literally just lab grown humans, but you see some other carbons look 100% mechanical and yet other people dont bat an eyelash at them. Shit, are the Megamen in Legends also carbons? Or would they technically be reploids?