rank it
Sol8d 5/7
never played ts unc
>>722538479One of the greatsThis and Majora complement each other very well
Better than Slop of the Goyim that's for sure
>>722538479It's pure dogshit and the only people who like it are either faggots who can't into 2d gaming, or hate Wind Waker because of its art style even though it did eveything better.
>>722538479Gothic is better.
>>722538479I give it 4 out of 5
>>722538479I've never played a Zelda game, not have a desire to ever play one.
>>722538479Best Zelda game of all time. 4/10
forestspiritshadow + well waterfirejabuganon castle dekugerudo training ground dodongoice cavern
>>722538479The formula/10
You had to be there in 1998 10/10
>>722538813why do you rank shadow and well together but not water and ice cavern?
>>7225384799/10.Definitely a masterpiece, it still holds up today with Ship of Harkinian, but guys suck it off way too hard.
>>722538479Maybe 5th best Zelda game?
>>722538479Majora'sOoT
>>722538813I was high as shit the first time I played Dodongo's cavern and got lost for like an hour. The music triggers flashbacks of a bad retard moment for me
>>722538479This and Link to the Past are 10/10 games and if you don't realize that then sucks to suck
>>722538479Redhead farm girl out of ten
10/10 worth its praise and understandably overrated for a reason. Get mad if you want but it's justified.
10/10 masterpiece hall of fame
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>>722538867yeah, had to be therezoomers have like 50 games drop each week and are spoiled for choice these days>this was a once in a decade release>the anticipation>the excitement>it is pure nostalgia>it's a 89/100 now>it was PERFECT then
It and Twilight Princess are the greatest games ever made
7/10. I was there.
>>72253847910/10 no notes. Take me back to Christmas 1998.
>>7225384791. Ocarina of Time2. Wind Waker3. Link to the Past4. Breath of the Wild5. Majora's Mask6. Tears of the Kingdom7. Twilight Princess
>>722548297Where is Link's Awakening, Ages, Seasons, and Minish Cap? Or the DS ones?
>>722538479The jump from LttP to OoT was amazing and then MM complimented it nicely
>>722538609The Switch games are spinoffs at best
>>722538867>You had to be American in 1998FTFY. Most of the world only learned of this game from American tendies praising its name on forums and Youtube videos.
>>722538479
>>722549607>1998>YoutubeYou're serious?
>>7225384791st amongst games involving ocarinas
>Includes CGI, Warriors and Tingle>Doesn't include Oracles, Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks???
Former #1 Game but now that honor belongs to Sekiro
>>722538609I fucking love coming to /v/ and finding gameplay I see literally nowhere else displaying
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>>722549701i think he's saying that most of the world didn't even know about it until the internet was a thing
>>722549701>reading comprehensionVery American indeed.Let me say it in another way: most of the world only learned of this game's existence in the 2000s when American tendies made posts on forums and Youtube videos insisting it was the greatest game ever made, since very few people outside North America knew the N64 even existed in the late 90s.Better?>>722550083I'm dead serious.
>>722550108>>722550254The internet was already a thing in 1998, I had full neogeo, snes, gb roms downloaded with dialup, in my country I bought oot launch day and enjoyed playing it feverishly for months.You're just too young to know about it
>>722550332i'm about 80% sure (i was like 3 in 1998) that ocarina of time was not released in south america, at least not officially. hell i'm pretty sure the n64 itself was only released formally in brazil and nothing else.
>>722550587Everything sold in latinamerica was imported from usa, no issues at all. There were plenty of places that sold videogames around, PLENTY, even since the nes days.You're thinking on "official" nintendo presence on these countries but that's another thing.
>>722550803oh yeah you're right. now that you mention it i do remember seeing posters for many n64 games in stores.
>>722538479I haven't beaten it yet but I'll be sure to come back to the thread when I do. I just got to the shadow temple
>>722538479like 4/10 at best. its really primitive for the 3d medium and it doesnt hold up well at all, on top of being a piss easy baby game with non-threatening combat and brainless non-puzzles.
>>722550850Also most knowledge came from magazines, in Mexico there was this one calle Club Nintendo, they were popular too, at least for people interested in videogames
>>722550332>I was a richfag following all the gaming news sites in the 90s so everyone was tooI'd be surprised if the average person at the time has even seen an N64 or OOT commercial. Most people around the globe thought Nintendo stopped making home consoles after the SNES before coming back with the Wii. That's how unpopular the N64 and GC were outside North America.
>>722551035>Most peopleHoly shit your anecdotal evidence is just poor anon, like this anon said >>722551032 there were plenty of videogames magazines around, hell I was a poorfag kid who saved money for 3 months to buy pokemon stadium 1 myself, then I worked on my grandpa store to afford a game boy advance later. Nintendo/Playstation was ALWAYS on the kids minds in the school and everytime, it wasn't an occult shit like you make it sound
>>722538479objectively the most overrated game of all time, even as illustrated in this thread.
>>722551035i only started buying club nintendo when i got a wii, and at that time games and consoles were already being localized and sold officially, so that's interesting.
>>722538479Majora's was better/10
>>722551265I started buying it around the n64 launch
>>722551223the dungeons are better than 90% of levels other video games, not even Nintendo remembers how to make a proper labyrinth anymore
>>7225384799/10If it had Majora's Mask's level of side content with slightly more complex dungeon design it'd be a straight 10.
>>722551519sounds like you dont actually play games then. also lufia 2 mogs oot, and its a 2d game.
I think I was 11 or 12 when the 3DS version came out. I remember it being the best game of my childhood, or at least a firm top three. I haven’t played it since. Have the ROM for the N64 version downloaded but never got around to it.
>>722538479>Made Link blondeIt's shit. Link always had BROWN hair (and pink hair in ALTTP)
>>722551926thats sad
>>722538479Doesn't reach the highs of future installments but is more much more consistent and doesn't have much lows. It perfected the formula that alttp established but I feel like it borrowed from it too much, even when it released I was a bit confused on how similar the two were. It has some immaculate atmosphere and it basically solidified the mythos of Hyrule.It's the perfect game to jump into the series though a bit jank.
>>722551740is your turn based jprg even remotely comparable to solving interconnected rooms? if so I'll try it, if not I've long outgrown this genre
>>722551208Yes, of course Club Nintendo was shilling for Nintendo, and they had a decent audience thanks to the SNES being extremely popular. Did those factors led to massive N64 sales? No. And that's the point. The average kid outside North America did not know or care about the N64, let alone OOT. The narrative that every single gamer in the world in 1998 creamed their pants from having experienced the greatness of OOT first hand is pure revisionism by people who still can't get over their favorite video game company losing to the competition, and every Zoomer out there taking it as fact is sheer insanity.
>>722552503>Did those factors led to massive N64 sales? No. And that's the pointWait wait wait, you're now moving the goalpost because you think that because of the sales it meant no people knew the consoles? Holy kek
>>722550007They've only been posting that intentionally bad gameplay for over 8 years now
>>722552503spouting a whole bunch of external bullshit that literally has nothing to do with actually playing game itself, no one cares whatever you're trying to prove.
>>722552414in a lot of cases yes, you need to do something in one room in order to affect another room and allow progress forward. sometimes its as simple as a switch, sometimes its something completely vertical like dropping a monster down a hole in order to make something work. sometimes its deliberately hookshotting to something so you dont land safely, but drop down to a secret room with treasure. sure, some puzzles are very simple and straightforward interactability (almost akin to oot), but plenty of them require actual thought and problem solving. there are also significantly MORE puzzles.the rpg aspect is pretty generic. you dont play it for the battles. you play it for the dungeons, and it kicks the shit out of zelda.
>>722552414>>722552751
>>722552092Every Link is a different person. OoT Link just happens to have hyperborean blood
>>7225384792nd in the franchise, the 1st being A Link to the Past.My personal rank is:>LttP>OoT>BotW>Link's Awakening DX (didn't play the Switch remake)>Majora's Mask>The Minish Cap
>>722552751a hard sell when you admit the meat of the game is generic combat
>>722552963its literally not the meat though. if you can play through final fantasy or chrono trigger and stomach generic rpg combat, you can stomach it for this with the great dungeons. like what do you expect from rpgs? lol
>>722553117>stomach generic rpg combatI can't, FF bores me now>what do you expect from rpgsBaldur's Gate raised my standards where character building and choices actually change the game
>>722553384>Baldur's Gate raised my standardsthen why havent your standards been raised to recognize how primitive and generally shitty oot is? you just sound like an insufferable autist and hypocrite.
>>722552092Shut the fuck up Dopson
>>722553526You feel attacked or something, weirdo? You introduced a completely different genre, I just want to solve puzzles that aren't made for retards like TotK. OoT and MM are great examples of dungeons done right.
>>722538557This, they compliment each other perfectly.OOT without playing MM afterwards is an inconclusive ending story wise and feels like a blueprint gameplay wiseMM without playing OOT first feels pointless storywise and schizophrenic gameplay wise.It's why I always group them together in my rankOOT=MM>TP>BOTW>WW>TOTK>SS
>>722552092>and pink hair in ALTTPIt was blonde in ALTTP.
Solid 10/10.
>>722551740>>722552751Oh shut the fuck up it's the same shit as every other jrpg of that time but with a few tools straight from Zelda instead of just pressing buttons and switches.
>>722538609Why doesn't the bokoblin move?I plated the game for 400 hours and this never happened. Is it an emulation issue?
>>722553869botw and totk have significantly better and more engaging puzzles than oot. "look up and shoot the eye" isnt really much of a puzzle.
>>722554096>"interconnected"a bunch of dumb little mini games is Zelda for babies. you're literally provided OP cheat tools and dev hacks from the start, what an utter joke to compare the 2. N64 is night and day superior to the game where you literally can't fail because everything you try just works! You just admitted pathetic taste, gtfo.
>>722554013>same shit as every other jrpgnothing like it in final fantasynothing like it in chrono triggernothing like it in phantasy starnothing like it in breath of fireso which rpgs are you talking about that actually have puzzle solving? which rpgs utilize the monster entity in numerous puzzles?you're talking out of your ass.
>>722554096They're fundamentally different types of puzzles.Old School zelda: Observe the diegetic environment and figure out what needs to be done. Would a bomb know that pillar over into a bridge? Would freezing that water cause it to cascade? What thing in this room feels out of place? You don't know the exact interactions until you try them, it's about figure out what to do as link rather than as the player.Botw/TOTK gives you all the tools from the start, you know all the interactions and what can do what where, then each puzzle is a new combination of those interactions.
>>72253847910/10 in importance 7/10 game
>>722554246>you literally can't fail because everything you try just works!if you want to blindly suck off oot for its own sake, just say so. you dont have to make up things about other games. it just makes you look even MORE retarded to do so.
>>722554474What are you trying to say exactly?
>>722554474Quite literally, BotW/TotK dungeons:>map and compass from the start, because you're an idiot >endgame op items from the start, because you're an idiot>fly to any of the terminals/locks, the order doesn't matter so you don't really care>activate/use companion 5x>At least the boss fights weren't total dogshit? Wow, turns out boundless freedom makes a shit puzzle game. Any other competent Zelda game actually forces you to learn the layout, and consider the correct path using your brain. Switch Zelda are open world spinoffs, Zelda in name only.
>>722554361>you know all the interactions and what can do what whereplease provide 1 to 5 instances where this isnt the case in oot (or lttp for bonus points).like, the only thing i can think of is the invisible bridges in lttp and revealing them with ether. thats the only esoteric interaction i can think of. are you perhaps just conflating the amount of potential tools and the mental juggle of "what should i use here" compared to the like 3 or 4 tools in botw/totk?
>>722554993I forgot to mention the most egregious part, the 5 locks are also flashing objectives on the map, completely removing the need for a brain
>>722554993>map and compasswho even needs those? really?>endgame op items from the startwhat are you even talking about?>fly to any of the terminals/locks, the order doesn't matter so you don't really carewhy should i care? and isnt it argued that one of the best things about zelda games is being able to do things in any order and NOT be railroaded? why change your tune now? dont be a hypocrite.>activate use companion 5xas opposed to use the dungeon item? as opposed to use the dungeon item on the boss 3x? your criticism is weak as fuck dude.>actually forces you to learn the layout, and consider the correct path using your brain.lmao you are wildly over exaggerating how simple the children's game of zelda is.
>>722555013>Deku tree: The web is elastic, if i jump from a bit higher it gives away even more... maybe if i jump from WAY high it will rip.This dynamic is never used again because it would pointless, the whole puzzle was figuring out that's how the dynamic worked.>Hmm there is an eye there, eye's don't like to be shot...Yes it's simple because the puzzle was noticing and figuring out the eye.>That thing is on the other side of this wall and my boomerang goes AROUND stuff>The hookshot pulls me to heavy secure things. Maybe it will pull that loose thing TO me>This dondogo statue has big empty holes in the eyes and here's some ancient slab talking about it seeing fire, i should bomb the eyes>Hmmmm these fans are blowing me off the ledge, if only there was a way to make myself heavier, wasn't i sinking to the bottom of a lake earlier?>I can't shoot an arrow down at the gerudo, maybe there's something on the ceiling i can shoot that falls on themetc. etc. Yes these don't exactly take Einstein to figure out but you get the point. These are one and done things because once you know you know. It's about using "real world" intuition. BOTW gives you all the tools at the start and each shrine has you use them to solve a puzzle.The intuition requiring puzzles in OOT aren't exactly amazing but neither are any of the shrines, they're stay at home mom tier puzzles.
>>722555312>isn't it argued[by others]...dont be a hypocriteokay schizo, enjoy your mushroom picking game
>>722538479A Top 5, maybe even top 3 Nintendo game. I'd put it in the same echelon as Mario 64, Super Metroid, Majora's Mask, and Wario Land 4 as far as Nintendo games go.
>>722554024That's because you're a tendie who just wants to consoom the open world and doesn't care about mechanical depth. There's a brief window where pressing the input after the attack finishes will reset the attack chain instead of continuing the combo. This attack staggers bokoblins 100% of the time and since they are never knocked away by the finishing blow the AI has no answer to it. You can boot up the game and test it right now.
>>722549654>Wind Waker>CC'mon man. At least give it a B
>>722555312>why should i carebecause the restrictions of your path is literally what makes them a challenge to solve, you are incapable of comprehending the points presented to you never mind arguing them
>>722555419>Deku treeyou're forgetting that entire gimmick of the game is that its 3d now, and jumping/gravity are a real thing. while it wasnt reused for a puzzle, it was an OBVIOUS option/solution and interaction at your disposal. >shooting targetsextremely basic interaction and has been in zelda since before that.>boomerang curvesbasic function of the item>hookshot pulls thingsbasic function of the item>dodongothe game even tells you what to do>iron bootsbasic function of the itemlike come on man. this isnt supporting your statement at all. its literally just knowing what key to use for what lock.>botw gives you all the tools at the start and each shrineand a lot of the time you then have to figure how HOW to specifically manipulate and USE those tools PROPERLY. while you might use the same tools as before, you often use them in NEW WAYS and figuring out exactly what/how to do is way more engaging than oot's very simple "which tool do i one/two dimensionally use".>they're stay at home mom tier puzzles.while the puzzles in botw/totk arent particularly "hard", neither are the puzzles in oot. i DO absolutely argue that they often require more brain power and coordination though. its so weird how people seem to forget that zelda games are literally made for children. yes, literally every single one. "but im grown up now. this should be harder, but it isnt" is not an argument. "but i found this challenging as a kid, so its better than this stuff i find easy now" isnt an argument.
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>>722538479All zelda>>722538529 are dogshit
>>722555875most terminals are locked or lacking power in some way. not all restrictions possible are to the path. the challenge that you solve is how to activate them. you're just throwing a tantrum that its not a navigational challenge or that they arent more isolated by separate rooms or something. or perhaps that there arent enough "steps" to solve before activation. you arent really presenting an argument.
>>722555875for the divine beasts, manipulating the beast often only allows for one terminal to be reached and blocking others off. in order to access others, you have to shuffle things around. your path is LITERALLY restricted. wtf are you talking about?
>>722556203i accept your concession.
>>722556753
>>722556070>while the puzzles in botw/totk arent particularly "hard", neither are the puzzles in oot.this is literally what i said you retarded nigger, learn to read
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>>722556070Meanwhile botw:>uhhhh i wonder if i should stasis this thing like i did the last 50 times something was problem
>>722549654ds games??
>>722549654Literally my exact list
>>722550254>Let me say it in another way: most of the world only learned of this game's existence in the 2000s when American tendies made posts on forums and Youtube videos insisting it was the greatest game ever made, since very few people outside North America knew the N64 even existed in the late 90s.This is an absolute fucking lie.
Good but overated
>>72255434890% of the time you still run through random hallways and fight (very) mediocre turn based battles.It has some nice puzzles but acting like this is revolutionary is overselling it
>>722556975they're not "different" either.
>>722538479Top 50 best videogames of all time.Best I can do.
>>722557753and calling it exactly the same as everything else is under selling it. the only game like it that i can think of (and i didnt even play it, so i could be wrong) is golden sun. thats it. no other rpg i know of even remotely compares. and yes, that IS saying something when the combat between them all is basically the same mindless slop. some people enjoy (or least tolerate) that slop, in which case this game ought to blow their socks off by having actual gameplay other than the generic battle shit.
The OoT and MM randomizers are pretty good.
>>722557049one of them are there
>>7225384791
I like MM more but OOT is still good
>>722538479IT comes from an era where games didn't have the same kind of padding, it's like Chrono Trigger it's extremely well paced with very little down time and very little pointless busywork with most of it being optional content you can access at the end of the game.
>>722555867You must hate every single beat em up in existence then.
>>722538479Number 5 - 10 of greatest games of all time. I don't consider it my number 1 but it beats the hell out of a lot of modern slop that comes out because it knew what kind of game it wanted to be.
I give it a 431793/453928.
>>722550332Nigger people knew about LoZ because of a thing called magazines that autistic gamers would get excited about. Me being one of them.
>>722538867/thread
10/10 Greatest game ever made without question. Doubtful we will see another like it in our lifetime. There is no game that still gets this much discussion and universal recognition despite being this old.
>>72253847910 outta 10
>>722555867its actually because its a bow bokoblin, they have low health and their only animation is to stand still, alert nearby allies, and then shoot bow, and hitting them with anything cancels and resets their animation. in that video the person is hitting the bow bokoblin with a stick, for only the first hit in a combo and then resetting, which deals barely any damage and requires them to take 10+ hits to kill, and the bokoblin has no reaction to being hit because it is not an enemy that is intended to survive being hit at all, it exists to be bullied.
>>722538479OcarinaOracle of seasonsLink to the pastMajora's maskTwilight princess Tears of the kingdomWindwakerLink between worldsPhantom hourglassOracle of agesMinish capSpirit tracksEchoes of wisdomBreath of the wild Zelda 1Zelda 2
