If you have some sort of special power, isn't it your responsibility to do the right thing?
>>722541817reminder that ceroba is fat
spiderman can tell me it is all he wants, but I think its a resounding "it depends"
Yes. If my special power was hypnosis, the right thing to do would be hypnotizing Todd & Emil to make better games. Then, impregnating their wives
>>722542030>implying todd's mind fortress can be penetrated
>>722541817Toby told me I just have to use the power of IMAGINATION
>>722541817maybe, but what if I'm a petty asshole and I don't care about responsibility?
>>722542152one of the least appealing images I've ever seen
I wish we could have brought Kanako to JUSTICE
>>722542108I IMAGINE them all getting a happy ending
>>722542157Then you're doing the wrong thing.
>>722542229fag
>>722542318not the concept, the ai is just ass
>>722542250kanako's justice is becoming clover's loving wife
>>722542252I am trying but not even I can cope that hard
>>722542369>>722542410NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
>>722542383NTA, but that's actually not AI, I'm pretty sure the artist is Zevulpes or whoever on twitter, and they just draw like that.
>>722542517that is terribly unfortunate for him
>>722542398Kill Kanako. Behead Kanako. Roundhouse kick Kanako into the concrete. Slam dunk Kitsune into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Kanako. Launch Kanako into the sun. Stir fry Kanako in a wok. Toss Kanako into active volcanoes. Piss on Kanako's ornate japanese boxes. Judo throw Kanako into a wood chipper. Twist Kanako's head off. Report Kanako to the Shrine Maiden's Council. Karate chop Kanako in half. Trap Kanako in quicksand. Crush Kanako in the trash compactor. Liquefy Kanako in a vat of acid. Eat Kanako. Dissect Kanako. Exterminate Kanako in the gas chamber. Stomp Kanako's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Kanako in the oven. Lobotomize Kanako. Mandatory abortions for Kitsunes. Grind Kitsune fetuses in the True Lab. Drown Kanako in fried corn. Vaporize Kanako with anti-matter. Kick Kanako down the stairs. Feed Kanako to Japanese Bears. Slice Kanako with a katana. Exorcise Kanako. Seal Kanako away for thousands of years.
>>722542574no u
>>722542469Reminds me of this image
>>722541817No.
Anyway, when it comes to making self-sacrificial decisions, or any sort of major world-altering choices, I like to refer to what Paul Denton told me.Do what you think is right. Only listen to your own conscience.Clover did exactly that. They did the right thing.
>>722542261oh no how will the world ever recover from anon not doing the right thing
>>722542426my abilities to cope are cosmic in scale, vast and powerful. I will not be stopped
>>722542261I don't want to do the right thing
>>722542730and everyone else around them did the wrong thing because I know for damn sure martlets conscience would be screaming at her to stop what was happening. I love them but I really do wish the events played out slightly differently
>>722541817No. Just because I have a power doesn't mean I'm duty bound to use it. You're also assuming what he did was the right thing. I don't think it was.
>>722542779>martlet only owns clothes almost the same color as her bodyFor what reason?
ITS METHE LIGHTBRINGER
>>722542938shes a natural
>>722542096I bet Todd penetrate's your mind fortress all the time, doesn't he?
>>722541817No. It might, if we didn't live in a society that selects for psychopaths.
>>722542261What if I place my responsibilities to my friends over those to the world and human race?
>>722542993
>>722542730>Flowey failing to absorb the next human's SOUL>The human being defeated or surrendering their SOULClover made the dumbest possible gambit and that's not counting Asgore's war against humanity. He is never impartial when it comes to decision making and never comes across as just.
>>722542730Too bad. I'm smashing that soul. Those crimes were Clover's to atone for.
>>722542469they removed it
>>722543217its because he's a kid. a kid who should have kept living so that he could develop a more balanced and complete understanding of justice, then made a call on the matter when he was a bit older, but sadly that fire burning in his heart told him "jump in a hole, it would be mad funny/just" and so he did
>>722542938Like all monsters, her clothes are part of her body.
>>722543201Where?
>>722543339?
>>722543339but why? there wasn't anything explicit in those pics
>>722543323*weren't
New SiIva Yellow riphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldYBg0DHFQ8
>>722543445>penetrate's
he did nothing wrong he truly was my best friend
>>722541817I feel like this could work well as a theme in a fangame, especially is the protagonist says no, while the rest of the cast say yes.
>>722543546I was asking if Todd Penetrate is your mind fortress. Is he?
>>722543521Wait, what the fuck? I've never seen Silva make a UTY rip before.
>>722541817I'm not doing the government biding sooner or later our interest will differ. I don't need to tell you what follows.
No, but it'd be a lot cooler if you did.
>>722543586his speech at the end of genocide is really good even if out of character for him.
>>722543651I mean, it's kinda already a theme of the original game. The line in the OP is a direct quote from Sans.
>>722543323Clover's soul can be a force to be reckoned with on it's own when it's determined enough, I don't think you'll get too far.
>>722542398I can't believe her and Chujin only serve to characterize Ceroba. They had so much going for them and their inclusion would have made for a great addition to the story.
>>722543651>*dude cmon just spare one guy >"i already told you, the monsters are attacking me and i dont care if you can reset time. they're in the wrong"
>>722543651>I feel like this could work well as a theme in a fangame, especially is the protagonist says no, while the rest of the cast say yes.imagine Val saying this before letting the final boss reach his final form when he could have stopped it
>>722543775Yeah, but Undertale operates under the assumption that the answer is yes, and its not making as big of an ask as the OP image.I mean a game where the characters are asking the player to make the ultimate sacrifice, and he really doesn't want to, even if the whole world is worse for it.
>>722542398Hug Kanako. Love Kanako. Take Kanako on walks through the park. Tuck Kanako into bed. Take Kanako out for dinner. Cook Kanako's favorite meal. Bring Kanako to the surface. Introduce Kanako to human food. Jump into Mt. Ebott to save Kanako. Take Kanako for a lovely evening drive. Help Kanako repair her house. Lovingly hold Kanako's head during a kiss. Help Kanako evade the IRS. Princess carry Kanako. Give Kanako lots of children. Sleep in while cuddling Kanako. Take out the trash for Kanako. Wipe Kanako's tears from her face. Eat Kanako's practice cooking. Pet Kanako. Pull Kanako into bed. Go hiking with Kanako. Bake birthday cakes with Kanako. Teach Kanako new skills. Send Kanako to Kitsune College. Congratulate Kanako for having grown many tails. Have a large family with Kanako. Build new bedrooms for each of your children with Kanako. Dig your own pool in the backyard with Kanako. Teach Kanako how to shoot a gun. Grow old with Kanako. Build up Kanako's confidence. Clean Kanako's shrine maiden outfit.
>>722543775its funny because sans already fails in that in most routes. sure he's trapped by the whims of beings much more powerful than him, but he doesn't do jack shit to prevent frisk from dying even in a pacifist route. I really like the idea of that coming to haunt him in a post pacifist setting, the type of story where frisk breaks the barrier, but then the monsters are left with the broken pieces to pick up of whats left of frisk after experiencing death a multitude of times. Little fucker even cracks a joke about you not dying when he has good reason to believe otherwise.
>>722543856> so much going for them>total of maybe five minutes screentime collectively>almost everything we know about them is secondhandNot every character needs to be a full presence in the story, sometimes a character only exists to act as another character's supporting element and that's okay.
>>722543832I'm not gonna absorb it, I'm just gonna drop rocks on it until it breaks.
>>722543723>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL0CQjrcN8D3MwAqN312UyI9LNPC6cGPI>First UTY rip was in 2019Fake fan: detected
>>722543856at least chujin has enough information known about him that we can very reasonably construe who he was as a person.
>>722543987Clover's soul can shoot ki blasts, you're in over your head.
>>722543746It would have made a lot more sense if it was reserved for a neutral run instead. Though the speech was great, Flowey out of all people, should have know how permanently fucked he was once a human has control of the SAVE function.
>>722544013Huh, seriously?I could've sworn I did a channel search to find any UTY rips a while back and didn't find anything.Perhaps this is yet another example of the Obama effect...
give me some things to doodle anons
>>722544032he may be in over his head, but to be fair, every monster that attacked clover was. it wont stop him from trying and being subject to judgment. will clover judge you worthy of mercy, anon?
>>722544147sig?
>>722541817People with financial or political power aren't doing the right thing. Why should I?
>>722543717>>722542993>>722543445good morning saars
>>722544147Luna introducing Riley to her mom (pic) while her mom's checking him outProbably doesn't make sense in canon but idc
>>722543952>the monsters are left with the broken pieces to pick up of whats left of frisk after experiencing death a multitude of times"You tell ASGORE that he's killed you too many times to count."
>>722543969Yeah but in those 5 minutes we learn a lot about Chujin. We don't really have any characters like him and his interactions with Clover could have been very interesting.
>>722544147A family pic of Martlet, Berdly, and the bird teacher from the Undertale 10th anniversary stream.
>>722543952>doesn't do jack shit to prevent frisk from dying even in a pacifist route.To be fair, what the hell would he do? He only has 1 ATK and 1 HP, so it's not like he can back you up in a fight or anything. Plus, he knows about the anomaly, so I think it's safe to say he knows Frisk'll be okay no matter what, for better or for worse.I think a lot of the shit he seemingly gives Frisk may or may not actually be directed at You, since we know now from DR that Sans is almost certainly from the world of DR, and probably had some experience with the red soul before the events of UT, so I think he knows better than to involve himself with you any more than he has to, like when he needs to try and stop you from ending the world and handing control of the timeline over to someone way worse than you.
>>722544147ceroba and a nondescript human male holding hands
>>722544147Riley about to fight Val in a tournament
>>722544147Starlo as Caleb from Blood (1997).
>>722544147roba having breast envy of adult kanako
>>722541817wait a minute WAIT A MINUTE does this game tell me to kill meself anonymous poster?
>>722544147I wanna see this frame from Stranger of Paradise recreated but with Clover and Ceroba.
>>722544147obligatory zenith momlet
>>722544463seconding
>>722544532the protag kills himself even without your input
>>722544147Can we get Ceroba rubbing herself all over an anon like that one KanaClover image?I have a mighty need.
>>722543865But imagine if the player character had a voice>"Spare one? You'd give me this same lecture if I spare 100 and only kill one.">"And what gives you the right to stand there and judge me, huh? Who made you the arbiter of right and wrong? What authority do you have to tell me that I should suffer and die, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, for the lives of people who are trying to MURDER me?">"Do you know what it feels like to die?">"Do you know what it feels like to die over and over again?">"Only to wake up, march into the next room, and die again.">"Don't tell me about responsibility. You don't have the right."
>>722543586well at least he never asked you to kill yourself
>>722544585downloading RIGHT this instant
>>722544321he could have easily distracted undyne, he was in the right place at the right time, and could have done that without risking his own safety. >so I think it's safe to say he knows Frisk'll be okay no matter what, for better or for worse.thats the thing, frisk wont be. a kid dying repeatedly is gonna fuck them up, we already know sans had pretty much just given up so its not that its not understandable, but he was in the right place and right time with the "power" to do the right thing and didn't. sure he's got his reservations knowing what you're capable of, but it still doesn't make it the right thing to do what he did, and the game doesn't really try to frame it as such. when sans gives you shit about doing the right thing, I think its reasonable to say its a little hypocritical
>>722543969I'm gonna cut a three page long argument short. No its not, absolutely not here. And nothing you have ever said on the subject proves otherwise.
>>722541817remember why you are here in the first place
>>722543913And the whole time he's thinking>I'm just like Goku, fr
>>722544624>>722543865>>722543775To be fair, Sans only says that line during your second encounter with him at the judgment hall, meaning you had to play through the game twice to get that dialogue, which shows that you are willing to play again with the intention of trying different paths
>>722544147Val to Riley
>>722544745You're right, we really needed an entire cinematic universe about Thomas and Martha Wayne before we could see them die in every Batman movie ever made, it's utterly inexcusable for a character to not have an entire odyssey written about them before being killed off for the characters that actually matter, you're absolutely right.
>>722544810He says that line if you kill Papyrus.
>>722544842>proceeds to kill himself after this
>>722544868(NTA)I could break down every way UTY accidentally made Chujin and Kanako central characters without a proper resolution, but of course you won't bother with it.
>>722544929okay then I remembered things wrong, but he does only judge you based on your LOVE after your first encounter in the judgment hall
>>722544321Sans can stop time, teleport, control gravity, and dodge attacks.
>>722544868The key phrase was "not here". It was ok for Martha Wayne in Batman, its not okay for Chujin in Undertale Yellow.
>>722545048thats very true, my point again here>>722544726ties back into the whole "they are a kid" thing. the right thing to do, assuming frisk is not murdering his way through the underground, would be to help the kid avoid death in a few places. its hard to say if sans himself even believes that it is someones responsibility to do the right thing if they have the power to, or if he only says that shit out of spite because his brother was killed (understandable)
>>722545165Idk, you're always gonna have supporting characters that don't get a ton of time. I think it worked fine.
>>722544032This is pacifist Clover. He won't do shit.
So what do you think would have happened if Ceroba managed to get Clover to the true lab?
>>722545016Because I've bothered with it before, and all it boils down to is "why would they tell me about a character but not let me actually see them, waaaaah!". I've spoken to lots of people who played UTY blind and never expected either Chujin or Kanako to be a major presence in the story outside of an Uncle Ben type role, the only place I've ever seen people insist that their absence is an actual problem is here, and that's because this place is full of retards who think that not getting what they want is bad writing.
>>722545258Pacifist Clover can still shoot ki blasts, that's what the entire final boss fight is centered around.
>>722545317clover enters kanako's mind to purge it off integrity in a boss fight like the flowey one and then uses 1/1000th of his soul to mend kanako'safter that he goes to asgore as everyone protests and then he dies
>>722541817>open thread>realize it's a deltarune threadoh
>>722545165Chujin's entire storyline was centered around the serum project, and that storyline gets resolved with Ceroba letting go and deciding not to pursue it after being defeated by Clover.I can at least see a few straws people grasp at for Kanako's story, but Chujin's is resolved as clear as day, no idea why you're prattling on about him.
>>722545459it is a UTY thread anon, DR thread is down the block
oh my god I AM GUNHAVER and you tell me sans is in this videogame
>>722545459heartbreaking
>>722544147This is a selfish request, but can you draw one of these two? I'd really like to see what they'd look like in your artsyle.
>>722545708Who?
>>722545379What if I just put a just act like I'm gonna take him to Asgore, the take the jar and chuck it off the roof?
to whom much is given, much is expected
>>722545753those characters are from Oldentale
>>722545389>the little fragment of clovers soul repairs kanako's soul>3 years later when the barrier is destroyed she feels drawn towards where the barrier was, her heart, the little piece of clovers soul resonating with clovers before it passes on to the afterlife>the piece soul she has grounds clovers soul, causing it to return to his bodyI will continue to think about ways we could get a happy ending until the day I die. Im not even a kanaclover connoisseur, but I see the vision.
>>722544147Bird Clover
>>722545819But what about those who never asked to be given power?
>>722544147draw the slime girl or the fire girl from naranja
>>72254591447 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
>>722546001sounds lame, stop making children your servants you sick fuck.
>>722545917I sense a strong degree of "taste" from the anon that designed these two
>>722545753Kitsy and Darkblade. They're chapter antagonists for Oldentale. Like I said, its a selfish request. But I figure I'm allowed to make one of those in my life, and he's free to ignore if he chooses.
>>722545491You know what, fair. It was just that Martha Wayne argument that set me off.I do think Chujin would have made a better antagonist than Roba though.
>>722546042it's a parable
>>722546176I know, Im saying fuck you and your marker I'm taking everyone to a happy ending
Oldtale anon... I remember you're delays
>>722544726>he could have easily distracted undyneHe did. Not for long, but he did distract her.
>>722544810(you) and the player character are separate entities.
>>722546104>"taste"what does that mean?
>>722546241I'm not giving him enough credit on that one to say that he's free of sin. in a post barrier world he's absolutely getting some guilt laid on his shoulders over what frisk when through, and that kid is absolutely gonna have some problems even if they stay nice.
>>722541817No, noblesse oblige is a cope. You should however live a virtuous life regardless of power or circumstance
>>722546308im saying I like the designs and naranja anon has great taste in character design, putting two very strong candidates for best girl in front of me before I even know anything about their personality.
>>722546209>someone asks a question about power and responsibility>give them the Luke verse instead of the Uncle Ben soiface explanation>"fuck you"okay i guess
>>722546419the fuck you is as in from dead space "fuck you and your marker". im not actually trying to hate on you anon, I'm saying im going to break the god damn barrier myself and give them all a happy ending.
>>722545242I feel like Kanako should have either gotten something more or been removed entirely. We're stuck in a neither fish nor fowl situation here where she has just enough to make you want something, only for you to realize there's not actually anything there.It doesn't have to be a full save Kanako segment, just an after credits scene or some bonus showing her and Ceroba living happily after the UT pacifist ending would be enough.
>>722546496she's goo, isn't she?
>>722545317He shines his soul on her like (you) do in Deltarune, and heal her. Maybe not fully, but enough for her to be awake and alive.
>>722545459What were you expecting?
>>722544147Lancer getting a piggyback ride from Susie, followed by an older Susie getting princess carried by an older Lancer (who has the chad face)
>>722545917he should draw the hair version of the sea bunny
>>722546042MasterSwordRemix truly is a cruel creator.
>>722546558Could at least have her be a fox shaped mass of goo like fan artists draw her as.
>>722546227Has he been working on the GAME game? As far as I know there’s no screenshots from the game proper
numbers going up, already having a better time than with deltarune
>>722547060there were some of him rendering sprites in engine in a blank background, I think he was trying to get collision working last time
>>722547160I'm still working on walk cycles. I got side tracked messing around with build systems for a day or two, and then spent a couple more fixing a refesh rate issue on my system so testing wouldn't give me headaches.
>>722545708Alternatively, you can do Wiki if you're too tired of foxes.
>>722541817>right
>>722547347>I got side tracked messing around with build systems for a day or twoOh boy do I understand your pain. What did you end up going for, out of curiosity?
>>722545917Since you are requesting something involving Luzma might as well post this slight redesign I did, adding more detail to her eye and "heat sink" neck protector >>722546407Hey thanks, its good to know people here enjoy my doodles, its a shame you'll have to wait a long time before seeing these characters in action since they appear after the first area of the game
>>722548315didn't meant to post the version for ants
>>722548315its got a lot of personality which makes it nice to see updates over time even if it takes a while
I originally skipped over shattered decade as I've never really cared about kanaclover, however some of the art anons have posted is extremly cute and so I will check it out. I have also liked the art for ufy, is there anything actually written for that or is it one of those "concept only" type of things?
So, to be clear, you plan on tricking them into thinking that you're going along with their plan and that you're willing to turn their soul over to Asgore, only to destroy their soul just to make sure that no one gets what they want?Why would you do that when the original purpose of the threat from the last thread was to dissuade them from sacrificing themself in the first place?
>>722548480just keep in mind the first few chapters are very short and rushed, it gets better over time though>UFYan anon was working on it but I don't think it has been updated in a while
>>722548559I'll check it out then, and yeah I mean there's such a wild strikezone of quality with these kind of things but honestly seeing the stand power level things for it originally had me just assume for some reason that it wasn't going to be up my alley aside from not really doing the whole kanaclover thing, but even my cold heart can be warmed
>>722544726>but he was in the right place and right time with the "power" to do the right thing and didn'tConsider the fact that Frisk power is "infinite retries" until Sans eventually croaks. It takes a lot of courage to fight Frisk in the first place.Sans doesn't really have special power. He just fights good and a nooticer.
someone post some nice pictures please
"oops, meant for >>722545780">>722548557
>>722548071I compile using the Windows XP command prompt to run the DOS version of the FB compiler, then I have to test the executables in DOSbox. I'm doing this because I haven't implemented scaling yet, and my GPU lacks support for resolutions below 640x400. I can also compile directly for Windows using my IDE, but that means I have to use a tiny 320x200 window since no scaling.
>>722548878I think that having the power to skip across large gaps of space is pretty special, even taking aside the fact that all you need in order to help someone is being in the right time and place. it does take sans a lot of courage to face frisk in genocide for sure, but he absolutely could have done more good for frisk in pacifist, and I think if sans grows to care about the kid, assuming he doesn't already in pacifist (asriel does mention they all care about frisk a lot and doesn't add any special exceptions) then I think that fact wouldn't be lost on sans himself. even if it wasn't a lot, sans was technically in the right time and place to do good for frisk, even if he chose not to because of the perceived risks at the time.>>722548954do you consider this a nice image
>>722548981>>722548557I'm shitposting, anon.
>>722548981anon erase the name field before you post>>722548954
>>722548559Yeah uh, sorry about the first handful of chapters of SD, again.My brain only really wanted to cooperate with me when writing after I got adult Clover out of the parts that were just revisiting early-game UTY and some parts of regular UT. >>722548690The stand stats graph was just a dumb little thing I did for fun, don't take it super seriously lol
>>722548954No
>>722549156I wont, and I dont dislike jojo even, I just got this impression that it was going to throw me off if I tried reading it. I can't explain it, just one of those things. that said I'm gonna give it a shot when im not so caught up in discussion.
>>722548954
Clover's soul appears before their friends (post UT true pacifist) to say one last goodbye, only for their friends to grab their soul and put it back into their body to resurrect them, which Clover is less than happy aboutMaybe something similar to Epsilon being brought out of the memory unit in RVB, like being upset at not being allowed to finally die on their own terms and be at peace. Just posting this since a writeranon wanted a reminder.
>>722548480An anon wrote a single chapter of absolute literature, promised to write more, then put it on indefinite hiatus because he was afraid people would imagine his characters looking different from how he imagined them.
>>722549243>hand holdingWelp, so much for the advertisers! (Not that a single penny from them ever made it to a Janny's pocket anyhow...)
>>722549313ah, the devastating powers of autism. unfortunate
>>722549242Cool, hope you enjoy it when you get around to it thenI really need to get some art done that isn't just pure cutesy stuff at some point, it's probably gonna give people the wrong idea
>>722549156You should do an updated version version with the part 7 version of the stand stats pages, where its a rough sketch of the characters with short description of their powers.
>>722549656noo I need more kanaclover
>>722549080and if you did not think that image was nice, how about this one. I am currently in search of more images as well.
>>722549521He still posts here too. I'm hoping he sees my posts and decides to start writing again.
>>722550074I will contribute some of my power as well. anon continue your fucking work
>>722549080>>722549128>>722549243>>722549838these images are very nice, thank you
>>722550195I am glad, however I am not going to stop posting images just because the contract is fulfilled
>>722550242I wouldn't want it any other way
>>722542730>Actually suicide is hecken wholesomeHello underage anon.
>>722550338then I shall grant the bird of happiness
where is ceroba mom ending taking care of clover with absolutely no mistakes this time so she fully educates him on what he'll need to do to pleasure his future wife
>>722541817if the developer didnt want me to do it why did he code it so that i could?
>>722550632Starlo if UTY wasn't about Ceroba
>>722549727The box sheet format? I see examples from Part 5 & 6 when I search for it, if that's what you mean. Sure, I can do that with some stuff that's on the way. >>722549746Don't worry, even if it's not fluff art, it'll probably all still be focused on the pair doing whatever together.
>>722550642it doesn't matter what the developers wanted me to do because Im going to IMAGINE a happier ending for them all.
i am working on a /v/ the musical song based on undertale fan content and toby's comments during the anniversary live stream: >>722550715though this thread should know about it in case anyone has any ideas
>>722550705if that were the case maybe I could find more art of other characters. I've got like a grand total of 5 of axis
>>722550501>so she fully educates himHow so? Be more specific
>>722550501>>722550952do not
>>722541817linkara?
>>722550720Have you not read part 7? What I'm referring to is that he threw out stand stats entirely in part 7 since they were bullshit anyways, and replaced them with brief stand descriptions accompanied by a sketch.
>>722551330>ceroba not knowing the grip of her foxussy could mindbreak a little boy into doing anything she wants
>>722550786I would've picked the John Lenon song, but that works too.
Letting UFY Martlet capture you. UFY poorly masking her shock at having been able to apprehend a human. UFY Martlet taking you to her house to wait for other gaurdsmen to escort you to the kings castle for execution. Staying at UFY Martlets house for several days with no signs of any other royal gaurds. UFY Martlet making excuses as to why she hasnt turned you in yet, with each one becoming more and more flimsy until she just brushes off the topic entirely. Listening to UFY Martlet ramble about her interest and thoughts after her shifts. Doing chores around the house while UFY Martlet is away or asleep. Growing close and sharing tender moments with UFY Martlet. Cuddling UFY Martlet in bed during the night. Watching the bags under UFY Martlets eyes get better and lighter. Sneaking out into the wider Snowdin forest with UFY Martlet. Finding a small nugget of hope and joy with UFY Martlet.
>>722551597well now im invested
>>722551698Idk i just drafted that i didnt think far ahead, maybe a short fanfic someday, or you can IMAGINE what happens next
>>722551430Oh, sorry, it's been more than a few years since I read SBR. I'm due for a re-read at this point. But anyways, yeah, I can do that.
>>722552019well it felt nice to read about the bags getting lighter. I dont know jack about ufy or even underfell but that still sounded cute to read.
>>722541817Goodnight thread, try not to die while I'm sleeping
>>722544310>>722544548>>722547668>>722545917hope u rike it
>>722553403Did you draw their legs, or is that all of it? Either way, thank you Sig sama.
Damn, I guess everyone went to sleep.
>>722553868I am trying, desperately triyng to grasp the bare basics of drawing so that one day one of these martlets or robas could be my own, while at the same time thinking obsessively about the cast and surface life for them. grand theft roba
>>722553403nice some naranja and oldentale fanarthopefully soon we will have more drawings of the new girls from them
>>722554119Maybe you should try taking reqs for practice. They don't have to be good for you to have fun drawing them.
>>722553403amazing as always, thank u for the zenith momlet
>>722541817Yes.I define 'the right thing' as eliminating a potential threat to humanity and rescuing the kidnapped souls.> Buh the monsters deserve to be free! Throwing yourself into a meatgrinder to help them is the right thing to do!You only think that because you're a self-sabotaging, terminally altruistic idiot.
>>722553403Thanks for the Wiki Sig. Are there any things you'd want to see in Oldentale? Or just in a fangame in general?
>>722554198I'm struggling a lot with the bare minimum basics of putting a full figure together so I need to get over that and just put pen to paper and make it past grade school drawings. every time I draw a torso it feels like its from that one soccer manga with the really wacky proportions. I took the day off tomorrow so I'm going to spend some time making myself make something.
>>722554119This is what Roba does within five minutes of coming to the surface.
>>722554365i think humanity are a bunch of niggers though so i will double dip and keep my furry wife alive with the chance of eliminating the gay jewed thing that is humanity>uhm you're a m-you're a nigger too
>>722554452she's a menace
>>722541817Frisk/Chara killed monsters because they thought it was fun and to find a challenge.Clover kills everyone because he thinks they deserve it.
>>722554463>Misanthrope's real motivation is simpingImagine my surprise.
>>722554442I usually start with an upside down triangle for simple torsos. Add a second smaller triangle to turn it into an hourglass if I want a more complex one.The good thing about drawing monsters is that you can get the proportions wrong and it'll still come out looking alright.Another good thing about Undertale, is that a lot of the characters are robed, so you don't have to draw their full figure. Just a head and the rough shape of a body. I used to draw a lot of Ralseis back in the day when I was first learning to draw because he's super easy to draw.
>>722541817Nope :^)
>>722554595smelly niggers who go to twitter like you deserve to be hated, the furries are a bonus
>>722554463Chara, Asriel is a boy.
>>722554684i would happily kill that gay little nigger waifu of yours chara too
>>722554119I wish model swaps were as well documented as they are for like, Source and stuff.Apparently there's a whole mod manager to fuck with just to like, slap some custom models in fucking, the Crash bandicoot remake.
>>722554632I'll try doing it that way. I'm really bad about getting myself caught on simple things and failing to realize I'm doing that and move forward to literally any other part of what Im wanting to do. I started drawing a martlet and wanted to try and draw the rest of the martlet, and I just kept shutting myself down because of course everything else connects to the torso, so instead of just being normal about it because im just starting and its fine if it looks silly, I just didn't keep going unintentionally.
>>722554763Like I wish it wasn't a huge pain in the ass to just slap some Roba or Mart model into some shit by copying the skeleton onto the model and auto weight painting since it's usually close enough.And the jank makes it special
>>722554745You and Chara are the same, anon.
>>722554898Just do low detail sketches. Its hard to fuck up something that simple.
>>722554648It doesn't matter how much you say nigger bro, nobody will think you're hard.At the end of the day you're still a limp-dick faggot that's willing to sell out your own kind for a crumb of feminine attention.
>>722541817https://youtu.be/3w9FQu4YLxQprologue of RB!STORYSHIFTSong and animated bits are nice; I really like it.
>>722554898this >>722554972 , just draw even if it looks like pic related
>>722555000Goddamn, that GETIts fucking over
>>722555204use this
>>722555178>>722554898It could even look like this and it would still be worth doing, because its practice.This is the kind of stuff I was doodling in class back in the day.
>>722554972I'll sit down and down that tomorrow. I know the biggest thing that will keep me from going from jack shit to actually drawing something is well, not actually drawing anything after all.>>722555178I just need to get over myself a lot of bit. I looked at martlets sprite and thought "ok yeah thats a face" and then keep stopping myself because "im doing this wrong" and dont let myself learn anything because I'm being too much of a bitch to finish and feeling wrong because Im basically just trying to draw her sprite but wrong also that papyrus has soul
>>722555692Not that guy but that's pretty cute my man
>>722555769Maybe, this isn't an actual drawing from highschool, just a rough approximation of what I'd do on my school chromebook in paint98. I had discovered that you could draw Ralsei easily by drawing an OwO and building out from there. This was the funniest thing ever to me, and I would scribble it everywhere.And somehow that lead to me actually being able to draw decent art today.
get negated by seething at someone complementing your get
>>722556071Based on a dead kidBut you know also based in the regular non-stupid long running joke sense
>>722555731if thats your art it isnt that bad
>>722548997Ah I see, thought you were talking about robust build system like cmake or something. If a single compile command is working out right now, I say hold onto that unless it ever becomes a limitation>I'm doing this because I haven't implemented scaling yetWhat I did in SDL was make a 640x480 surface to represent the "game screen", then I stretch that to the real screen using SDL's (undocumented) SoftStretch function.Now I don't know jack about FreeBASIC, but assuming you're using GfxLib, you could simulate this by making a 320x200 "game screen" image with ImageCreate, drawing everything in the game to that, then upscaling that to the screen. There's no built in scaling function, but from my cursory searching, it seems someone from the forums wrote one called Multiput.But even if you prototype natively in XP, it's probably a good idea to test in DOSbox anyhow. I still have yet to test any builds on Windows 9x lol
>>722556158its all I really have to show of it because any time I try to draw a whole body I notice halfway through that the torso is stupidly long,everything makes no sense and I get frustrated and just do more line drills. I do feel encouraged by the push to just put things on the paper though, I dont really have any distractions tomorrow aside from starting shattered decade so i'm gonna try and take some steps forward. thank you all for the encouragement though, I really want to draw bird.
>>722556147the dead kid in question
>>722556449Negative.
IDK what op is referencing desu but I'd probably just be selfish with stuff outside of cases where I knew some serious harm would happen without intervention
>>722553403Do more of this
>>722541817DELTATRAVELER LIVES!https://deltatraveler.vyletbunni.com/news/20251005/TL;DR Section 1 (Undertale ruins) and Section 3 (Underfell) will be completely overhauled. Section 1 will include elements of UTY's ruins and Section 3 will use the dev's idea for a reboot of the original GG!UNDERFELL tentatively called VB!UNDERFELL.
>>722553403That slime girl has like, zero waistBut it’s still all good
>>722556710>kris still has visible eyes and eyelasheskill it again
>>722541817With great power comes absolutely nothing.
>>722555731Hell, your art might be better than mine right now.
>>722556516positive. that other kid isn't dead, so the only dead kid left is UT Asriel
>>722556861It's a long running joke on /v/5 years long running.
>>722556293>SDLI can just copy your system if I really need to. FB does have bindings for it. I'd rather not though, since I don't want to bloat file size with runtimes or would like to avoid dynamic linking if possible.>MultiputHuh, this is the first I've heard of that, and it may be exactly what I need. I wish it had some kind of documentation though. Something on how to use it, and something to tell me what license its under.
>>722556824I'll work on actually finishing things and getting out of my head. Thank you all once again for the advice. it feels overwhelming sitting down and looking at all the things I have no idea how to do and not knowing where the hell to actually go with anything. I hope to relax and make a little progress tomorrow, heres to hoping thread is still around if it doesn't reach its full life before then.
>>722556558He's referencing the protagonist of Undertale Yellow killing himself in one of the endings so the monsters can use his soul, in combination with 6 others (one of which they still don't have) to break the magic barrier sealing them underground.Its a big point of contention since the character is a small child, and the rest of the cast just let him suicide for the sake of self sacrifice,
>>722556710the game with the funny kris quote
>>722557552I only remember cathartic Sans. What was the Kris quote?
>>722557576>"don't make me say anything stupid okay?"
>>722557606is that it?
>>722553403Cheers sig
>>722557705The funny thing was the face Kris made while he said that to SOUL
>>722557576
>>722558242When does this happen?
>>722541817Is Robert powerless then?
>>722558281idk
>>722541817No, I'm not your slave.
>>722542730Ask Chara and Asriel how that went.
>>722556710I hope they add a Touhou section so I can murder Reimu and Marisa.
>>722557060Yeah, I totally get not wanting to add dependencies. In my case, compiling for i486 Win9x becomes a nightmare if I introduce anything else that needs to be built on its own, so I'm only willing to add single file libraries like stb_image.Perusing the source, Multiput seems to just provide a single subroutine that has the following arguments:- pTarget: the destination to draw the image (seems like it draws to the screen if left blank, according to example code in the thread)- xMidPos, yMidPos: the X and Y coordinates for your image's midpoint- pSource: the image you want to draw- xScale, yScale: scaling factors for each axis- Rotate: degrees to rotate the image when drawing- Transparent: a boolean, not sure about this one, but it seems to be whether or not to enable transparency checking of some kindAgain, I don't know FreeBASIC, so I could be reading it all wrong.Yeah, the lack of a licence concerns me too. It's posted in the User Contributed Sources board though, so I would assume the guy who made it would be fine with other people using it. Especially considering your project is an open source indie game in the public domain.I think giving credit and linking the forum page would be enough to cover any bases
>>722560013Well being fair, Chara wanted to slaughter everything, Asriel wanted to save monsterkind.Asriel ended up winning without realizing it.
>>722560368Were looking through Multiput or Multiput 2. 2 is much newer and targets a newer version of the language, compared to Multiput 1, which only targets the 2006 version of FB, one which is substantially different form the current version. They're also written by different programmers. The programmer of Multiput 1 is apparently dead, so I don't think I'm going to have to worry about the license on it. With Multiput 2, I should probably just ask in the forum thread what license its under.
>>722560517>Asriel ended up winning without realizing it.But we still could not save him ;_;
>>722560517>Well being fair, Chara wanted to slaughter everythingThey did what they thought was right, and only listend to their own consciousness. Besides, Clover's actions nearly resulted in the total extermination of all of humanity if not the complete destruction of all life on the planet. Arguably did if you view soulless pacifist as the "True" ending.
>>722555146Cool, but I prefer the vagueness of the original introduction. The quality of the pixel art (it's very good) makes me think the game will never be finished.>>722556071Reminds me of how many people started off drawing ponies because they're much easier than humans. Stylized animals are just fun to draw.>>722558242Canon Kris is smarter to not talk to the SOUL directly Not counting the time he begs to not be involved in rape since this just makes me want to do it more.
>>722561293>Canon Kris is smarter to not talk to the SOUL directly What about leaving a letter to the player every day politely talking about their performance yesterday and asking them to not do certain things?
>>722545317I had a fangame idea that explored this scenario. The idea was Ceroba takes Clover to the True Lab, and the two find Kanako unconscious. Ceroba then ambushes and kills Clover, then gives his soul to her daughter.The game starts with a cold open within Kanako's delirious mind. In this odd dream world, she meets Clover, who has no immediate recollection of what happened in the lab. The two explore various crossover fanfiction worlds together, getting to know one another and bonding over their shared taste in media, all the while piecing together what happened to Kanako since she fell down, how Clover even got here in the first place, and confronting the remaining traces of Integrity in Kanako's soul.The last chapter would be a Yume Nikki styled Nexus of Kanako's mind, where the two fully unlock Kanako's trauma from being stuck in the lab for a year and Clover's trauma of being betrayed by his friend. Your choices throughout the game would mould their worldview and their shared sense of justice: upon waking up, they will ultimately decide to (begrudgingly) forgive Ceroba, cut ties with her, or outright try to kill her in revenge. Where they go from there... I honestly hadn't decided yet.Of course, this is all just a vague plot summary borne from my brainstorming. I had hardly gotten into the details.>>722560182Touhou was the first chapter of my Deltatraveler Yellow take of sorts that I mentioned above. You (unfortunately) couldn't crimson slash them, but you could do so to the SDM in the weird route
>>722561401>You (unfortunately) couldn't crimson slash them, but you could do so to the SDM in the weird routeMweh, I actually somewhat like the SDM cast.Though you do end up massacring all of them as well, outside of Flandre, in my own Touhou fangame if you pick a certain route.
You know speaking of, HUGE missed opportunity to (potentially fail to) communicate at the start of chapter 3 in deltarune with the name podium.
>>722561356>asking the interdimensional demon you're trying to keep in the dark to not do certain thingsWe all know how that would turn out.>>722561401That sounds like a great idea, though if we're talking about Yume Nikke and delirium it might be better to have entirely original worlds more resembling OFF than a take on Deltatraveler. I fully acknowledge that coming up with completely original fever dream worlds is a lot more work.
>>722541817no. i didn't ask to be born with it and i am in no way obligated to use it for anyone else
>>722561772Why not just have a chapter on Off. It would be very relevant to what Kanako and Clover are going through. Especially the ending.
>>722561772I mean, Kris could just lie and claim that they are totally interested in closing the dark worlds. Trying to keep them in the dark just makes them all the more curious.
>>722541817No. Power does not mean other people's needs become your responsibility. That would merely mean that being successful means you are enslaved to those below. As far as responsibility goes you shouldn't use the power to impede on the rights of others, but that's where it stops.
Anybody know if any of the engines for making Deltarune/Undertale fangames are actually good? Been doing a lot of work on my script and gameplay ideas and I'm mostly satisfied, but when it comes to actual code I'm torn between doing this the hard way in game maker and trying to work with one of the actual engines.
>>722560790I was looking at Multiput 2. In the last page, someone even made a modification that allows for the import of images with alpha channels.That's true though, you could always try asking the author about licencing permissions lol. I feel dumb for not thinking of that>>722561503I'd like to think killing the SDM cast was for narrative purposes: the chapter takes place during the vampire incident, and killing the mastermind is the alternative solution to pacifying her and creating the spell card rules. But my personal distaste towards Remilia may have subconsciously led me to draft that plot lol>spoilersok i need to play this game now>>722561772The wacky crossover was too fun of an idea to resist. If anything, I contrived the entire scenario to justify the unrealistic setting, haha.But yeah, for a more compelling take, you're right, a more cohesively surreal setting would be better. You may be disappointed (unsurprised) to hear the game is cancelled anyhow, so if anyone wants to develop the idea into something more, then I'd be thrilled to follow along for the ride>>722562178Off was one of the games I considered, but I wanted to avoid having too many RPGs and give some other genres (and ideally some non-vidya media) their time in the sun
>>722562352there are readily available engines? I knew there was an anon making one in godot, but he disappearedthere is also undercreator but the demo keeps getting delayed for itmost devs here are making their own engines, either in godot or unity or making it from scratch in basic for DOS
>>722562406> and killing the mastermind is the alternative solution to pacifying her and creating the spell card rules.Makes sense. Though my game totally ignores the spellcard rules since most of the manga's do as well. Granted, there are other reasons why nobody really cares about following them. >But my personal distaste towards Remilia may have subconsciously led me to draft that plot lolHonestly, I'm trying to keep myself under check in that regard and not make killing everybody the objectively good ending. >ok i need to play this game nowAny other Touhou characters you really dislike?
>>722562437https://kristal.cc/This is the one that looks promising.
>>722562437There's Unitale, which is what most of those skeleton wank single fight fangames were made in, its only really suited for that kind of game. And there's Kristal, which is meant for full on Deltarune fangames with overworlds and battles. I haven't used either personally.
>>722562352Unitale works well enough if all you want to do is make a single fight game. If you want more the only one I know of is Kristal, and I've never used it.
>>722562746Krisal looks promising to me but I'm worried about how strong it is since I want to throw in a few more ambitious ideas down the line. Like the third part having a section where you play a shoot em up or a fight where the combat box gradually starts breaking down.
>>722562406>and ideally some non-vidya mediaWhat were your picks?And on the subject of that Yumme Nikki inspired segment you mentioned, maybe you could find a way to work that SURVEY_2 or whatever you're calling it. I think it could fit as neat late game area.
>>722562898>Like the third part having a section where you play a shoot em upIsn't that just normal Undertale? The Mettaton and Spamton fight even let you shoot.
>>722562406>and ideally some non-vidya mediaPlease throw in a actual western, preferably Spaghetti western.
>>722541934
>>722562992It's based more on something like Ikari warriors (But you control an tank).
>>722563000anon, that game is dead
>>722563091couldn't that just be accomplished with a different soul sprite and a bigger battle box?
>>722562313>As far as responsibility goes you shouldn't use the power to impede on the rights of others, but that's where it stops.So you'd be cool with letting countless people die in ways that you could easily prevent with your power? You'd still be able to sleep with all that blood on your hands?
>>722563132It might be? I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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>>722563096I know, let me dream.
>>722541817>isn't it your responsibility to do the right thing?But who decides what's wrong and what's right?
>>722541817why would i be responsible for others? >fucktard falls asleep with a lit cigarette>"help me cuckman! save me!">arrogant whore gets attacked by an orbiter she treated like absolute shit>"help me cuckman! save me!"
>>722563438Let me answer that question with another question: how many lines are you willing to cross before you start to feel bad?
>>722563492I don't know, like 7
>>722563195Is it on his hands though? It sounds like its on those other people's hands.
>>722563274Based businessman
>>722563492Here's a better question. How many lines will it you before you feel good?
>>722563832When does Chara start smiling when you enter combat?
>>722563082What does it smell like?
>>722543394>her clothes are part of her body.Oh fuck does this mean ripping a monster's clothes off causes HP damage?
>>722564431Only if you do it with killing, or molesting, intent.
>>722541817no it isnt. cash is the special power of billionaires and i dont see them helping people in need by funding shelter or food.
>>722564431Its like hair. The clothes themselves aren't alive and can be cut without hurting the monster, but do it violently and the parts they're attached to will get hurt.
>>722564545Does suffocating myself in chest fur/feathers count as molestation or (self) killing intent?Asking for a friend.
>>722565059Depends on how consentual it is.
>>722562616Honestly, only Remilia (annoying and insufferable) and Sakuya (bland weirdo whose entire personality is muh ojousama) come to mind as characters I especially dislike. Among characters I don't like, it's largely ambivalence and in some cases disdain (mainly for overrated non-characters like Daiyousei or Koakuma). Of characters I consider assholes (eg. Yukari, Mamizou), I find many entertaining.As consolation, here are some of my favourites so you can tell me how badly you can ruin their lives: Kogasa, Shinmyoumaru, Yuuka, Yuyuko, Eirin>>722562898I haven't used Kristal, but it is worth noting that it's built upon Love2D and is fully open source. In theory, this combination sounds good for hacking to your liking>>722562937Y'know I like the idea of working in the Yume Nikki part. Not entirely sure how I can fit a cerebral, non-combat mind dive segment into a dark world, but such elements could certainly my ideas for the last couple chapters.For the record, SURVEY_PROGRAM_202X is the name I'm leaning towards. SURVEY_2 sounds like a good shorthand for it though, might start calling it that in these threads.As for non-vidya Goopnakotraveler sections, I honestly hadn't picked any yet. I was drawing a blank thinking of stories that could fit as interactive worlds where "the right thing" is open to interpretation. I'll say Trigun and Pandemonium Wizard Village were suggested to me in these threads, though I never got around to reading them.I also really wanted to include a western as one of the worlds, which someone else asked me about:>>722563000This is something I really wanted to do, but I haven't actually seen any so I wouldn't know which to pick lmao. I will say No Country for Old Men and A Fistful of Dollars are on my watch list>>722563096Come on dude, let my man IMAGINE. Maybe if he does it hard enough the game will become real
>>722541817I use it to be a rich supervillian
>>722565290>SakuyaShe plays a MASSIVE role in the SDM chapter, though it can end with her very dead. >Yukari, MamizouPretty rare to have somebody else that likes Mamizou. Or at least willing to admit that Yukari is a asshole.>Kogasa,Plays a minor roll as a blacksmith, similar to the one in Deltarune.>ShinmyoumaruMinor boss. Not sure if you even end up killing her yet.>Yuuka, YuyukoSince part of my goal was to focus on more unpopular characters, neither one appears outside of possibly as a cameo shopkeeper. >EirinNothing bad happens to her in any of the routes, amusingly. >I haven't used Kristal, but it is worth noting that it's built upon Love2D and is fully open source. In theory, this combination sounds good for hacking to your likingThat SOUNDS good.
>>722563926Fox piss, which smells super strong.
>>722565290If you really want to lean in on the darkness (and No Country for Old Men is pretty dark), go for Blood Meridian. There is no shortage of other classic western media out there otherwise. For one with an interesting protagonist dealing with mystery and moral conundrums, check out Have Gun Will Travel. If you want a fun absurdist romp with steampunk elements, watch The Wild Wild West (would recommend the TV show over the movie). Everyone will recognize No Country for Old Men and A Fistful of Dollars so these other options will stand out more.
>>722563729>Is it on his hands though?If he has a chance to stop it and he doesn't, then he is at least partially responsible. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
>Clover is good>For almost allowing the monsters to do mass genocideThat's really the main issue I have.
>>722543394not true, monster change clothes all the time
>>722563195The blood is not on my hands. You are using morality as a cudgel to enslave others to your needs. You still sleep soundly despite this.
>>722566305You can stop tens if not hundreds of africans from starving to death by donating all your possessions right now. Can you "live with that blood on your hands"?
>>722565536>Since part of my goal was to focus on more unpopular charactersI really, really like this, and wish more people thought the way you do. I have some ideas for Touhou fangames (one of which I'd like to make after SURVEY_2), and one of my personal guidelines is to give focus to characters and locales that typically get less attention.Speaking of which, I might as well ask: any plans for PC-98hus?>Nothing bad happens to her in any of the routes, amusinglyI expect nothing less from THE BRAIN OF THE MOON>>722566275Thanks for the lengthy amount of suggestions. Though I don't expect to come back to Goopnakotraveler, I very much appreciate any movie recs
>>722566862>I really, really like this, and wish more people thought the way you do. I mean, a lot of the game is born out of my frustration with Touhou fans and the content they produce. >Speaking of which, I might as well ask: any plans for PC-98hus?There is one chapter which has a lot of PC 98 characters, but probably not the ones most people care about. Mostly Rika, Rikako, and Meira.
>>722541817If it was given to you with that purpose, then yes. If it was an accident or if you achieved it on your own, you're not under any moral obligation and anyone who says otherwise is trying to exploit you.
>>722543746Don't really see how, Flowey in Undertale's genocide route wanted nothing more than to be with Chara once he realizes they're still there in some form, he pisses himself because if Chara kills him then they'll never be together again.He gets similarly scared and sad near the end of the Asriel fight, obviously not the same kind, but his fear and sorrow stem from him never seeing them again, Genocide is worse for him because he isn't just unwillingly losing them, they're making it clear that they fucking hate him and he knows they have every right to.Clover is some random kid, ideally Flowey's ticket for freedom and godhood, but in actuality Flowey just can't get him to do what he wants because Clover, being the overly stubborn poison drinking toddler he is, keeps going off script, infuriating Flowey to no end.
>>722567756I mean, people also forget that he literally wants to die at the end of the neutral route. Flowey is perfectly okay with dying. The only reason he isn't at the end of the genocide route is because Chara is the one doing it.
>>722566507>Can you "live with that blood on your hands"?Yes, but I never claimed to be a good person.
>>722567891You can be a good person without sacrificing yourself to any mob that "needs" you to is what I'm telling you. Don't give up on your moral character just yet.
>>722567939Man, you will fucking love my Touhou fangame. Entire point is to not give up on fighting for your own happiness.
>>722541817What is the right thing again?
>>722567994Sorry I just came here to argue philosophy, I despise bullet hells. I like the cut of your jib tho.
>>722568295>I despise bullet hellsAren't all Undertale games bullet hell?
>>722568347Maybe, I just saw an image of a guy with a gun in his mouth.
>>722568384It's a Metal Gear Solid 4 reference, I think.Changed to be about Undertale Yellow, obviously.
>>722544147Zenith Martlet or normal Martlet being a momlet
>>722568038
>>722567221>a lot of the game is born out of my frustration with Touhou fans and the content they produceEvery post I read about your game makes me more interested in it.>Rika, Rikako, and MeiraI mean, I find all these characters fun, so I'm curious to see what you'll do with them.I also just thought about something, does the whole "focusing on what's unpopular" also apply to music? I'm tired of hearing Septette arrangement 10 million, so if you're gonna buck the trend and focus on themes that don't get as much attention, I'll be over the moon.(The irony is that a lot of my favourite songs are actually quite popular, but there's a lot I think gets overlooked too like Alice Maestra or The Hall of Dreams' Great Mausoleum)
>>722553403I love the image of bird Clover standing next to Zenith Martlet, and Berdly's wondering where he came from, and everyone else is just silent, though Martlet's expression and blush on her face gives some heavy implications.This is awesome sig.
>>722553403Thank you for acknowledging that Clover is, and always was a part of Martlet's family. Them ending as mother and child, is always the true canon when everything's said and done.
>>722553403What's his problem?
>>722568938My current plan for music is to just go around pilfering the soundtrack of other games since I can't compose to save my life and I doubt anybody that can wants to help me out. I've already accepted I'm going to be hiring a actual sprite artist, unless I turn out to have a talent for making them myself, but I doubt I'll have enough cash to get an musician as well. Most Touhou music will be either tracks straight from the games and POSSIBLY remixes if I can find any good ones and get permission (Since unlike with the OST of games I actually care).
>>722553403Yes Berdly Martlet did always have a child. She just took some extra steps to ensure that people acknowledged Clover is her literal child.
>>722569262lack of parents
>>722569369She did some Esoteric lovecraftian ritual to turn Clover into a bird monster.Or she just got him some Bird fursuit head at Planet Halloween and told him he has to wear it all the time now.
>>722569262lack of solid bones, can't fire a gun without the recoil screwing them up no longer qualified to be a real cowboy
>>722569561That's no bird suit, Clover is definitely a bird monster here, and everyone in the family can see that.The question is of course how bird Clover came to be, and from Zenith Martlet's expression, whatever she did is causing her to blush, when she's thinking about it.
>>722569764>>722569561Unbirth.
>>722553403LOL Zenith Martlet knows what she did to Clover.Clover's happy to be including and I like that.
>>722569819Unbirdth
>>722566305Thoughts on the trolley problem?
>>722570289NTA, but pick whatever choice makes you comfortable.
>>722553403Martlet totally turned Clover into a bird monster.I wonder how she achieved that.
>>722570289You can do whatever you want, morality is not defined by "you're in a burning building" "you're on a deserted island" type of stupid scenario's that never happen. It is something you choose to implement in your daily life that makes you what you are. "What about this specific scenario where you have to do something or someone will die" is the utilitarian's last gasp at staying relevant.
>>722553403>Sig drew the first DRY art on e6.>Then the first UTW art.>And now, the first UTN art.Dude's creating Undertale fangame tags like buying properties in Monopoly.
Sig needs to fucking update and upload on his FurAffinity page.
>>722570524To be fair there's been plenty of undertale wildfire fanart out there, some of which is really good, people just never uploaded them to e6.Likely because the original artists didn't let people do it.
>>722570495C'mon man it's just a thought experiment it's not that serious.
>>722570883Read the fountainhead already.
>>722543934Cole please
>>722569651he can just make a gun out of magic and shoot it, like how Undyne makes magic spears
>>722553403Martlet has quite the guilty look on her face XDShe did something to Clover for sure.
>>722544147Cole and Kanako making out on the roof balcony of Martlet's house
>>722541817humans have debated this question for millennia
>>722553403Oh crap, fanart from signirsol already? thanks a lot man, I guess I'm now contractually obligated to make the hair version of Bedo the official one
Hello fellow anons it's been a while, but here I am, ready to draw all sorts of stuff!Thank you for liking what I've drawn, regardless of what it was.I know it's a bit late, since this thread looks like it'll end soon.In any case throw your requests my way, and I'll draw the most popular/the most fun idea!
>>722573338OH SHIT! Welcome back drawanon, glad to have you back.As for idea, Cole or Clover reacting to Martlet's bra sizes.Like he surprised her normal bra size is big, and even more surprised at how big her Zenith bra is.
>>722573338Sequal to the Martlet/Zenith unbirth images perhaps?
>>722573908NOOO KANAKO GET AWAY FROM HENG
>>722573338Draw Ceroba cooking spaghetti
>>722573338Martlet being a momlet, or Zenith being Martlet.Or both.
>>722573338Zenith Cloverlet unbirthing Martlet and making her human.
>>722569262>My genuine reaction to that information
>>722574046>It fails
>>722573338More wholesome moments between dty Martlet and cole.Like maybe the first time she hugged him.
>>722573338Nude Martlet or Zenith.
>>722549402Thank you, Tenna
>>722573338>>722544382
>>722573338continuation of those martlet/zenith unbirth pics you did. or anything martlet related honestly
>>722541817Hmmm…. no.Gonna go kill Papyrus for fun again now.
>>722573338Zenith Martlet as a greater demon of tzeentch.
I could be at home drawing shit right now. But noooooo
>>722576668>Ceroba with tailDESTROY ITKILL IT NOW
>>722541817The right thing to do if I can exploit it for wealth, I shall.
>>722576752Ceroba doesn't have a tail, because if she just had one she would become the smartest person in the underground, outsmarting Gaster. A true genius.Fate is cruel.
>>722576668same but for writing fuck my corpo life
Tranny furfag general >>>/vg/
>>722568541FUCK THANK YOU!I was trying to remember why the FUCK that looked so goddamn familiarIt's been probably 15 goddamn years since i played the gameFUCK I CANT BELIEVE ITS BEEN THAT LONG
>>722566275Vidya has a decent amount of dark west as well, such as Blood West
>>722573338Cole and Kanako making out on Martlet's rooftop balcony
>>722573978She'll be fine. Certainly more safe than around Ceroba
>>722573338Clover/Cole introducing Kanako to the concepts of westerns, baseball, apple pie, and barbecues to americanize her against Chujin's will.
>>722543969Chujin I get, but Kanako as far as the overall structure of UTY goes had zero reason to exist, and I struggle to call her a character. Having less presence in the main conflict than Chara is mindboggling to me.
>>722576752she deserves a tail
>>722579610>Ceroba gets a tail>everyone is happy for her>Suddenly her tail falls off>it was just taped on>or a buttplug.
>>722573338I don't care what exactly, but anything Martlet related. Even better if it's Zenith.
>>722570524this is on e6 already? so that means this is the first time anyone outside from here sees anything from Oldentale and Naranja, what a way to become known by the rest of the fandom
a blessing, the thread made it through the night, now the real questions. does a bleach drinker really have the right to make the big decisions like that?
>>722573978Real talk, how would these two idiots react to Kanako's plight?
>>722573338More Martlet please!
>>722582257Yi would study her to see what makes her tick and “put her down” after he’s done.
>>722581819Always.
>>722573338Martlet lays Clover as egg?
>>722573338Clover hugging with his face pressed against an excessively busty Martlet
>>722563782I'M A [#1-rated Salesman 1997] YOU BRAINLESS [stock monkey]!
>>722582946Sounds more like Eigong
>>722556710but why though
>>722553403Holy shit that slime girl looks like a goddess of fertility
>>722573338your power, it terrifies me
>>722587723The power of drawanons art being good. Or the power of the drawanon making these threads more active?Either way it's a good thing.
>>722588796the power of good art with a terrifying subject matter bringing life to the thread. it feels me with fear and admiration in equal measure
I love these two idiots
>>722590085are there any good fics of dry, I'm starting shattered decade this morning, Im trying to see the vision
>>722590397As of right now, none that I know of.
my main issue with shattered decade so far is the feats clover do feel like they fit more with the orange soul than justice it goes TOO animeoh and the first chapters being so short/rushed but that's been already talked about
>>722565290>Not entirely sure how I can fit a cerebral, non-combat mind dive segment into a dark worldDark worlds are a reflection of the dark world creator's mind. Maybe Kris creates a dark world under extreme mental and physical duress and that causes it to come out weird. Or maybe it could work in the concept of your deltatraveler as well, with the entire segment taking place inside of Kris's mind. It being sort of like the last part of Evangelion, where its all part of Shinji's mental breakdown. We already see a bit of this in chapter 3 and 4 with the egg rooms and the 1225 maze. You could just lean really hard into that. And have that kind of exploration and puzzle solving happen in this strange mental inner world. Maybe the roaring could even be what sets it off. Kris takes a wave of overwhelming darkness to the face, and gets put into a catatonic state. Would work well as a calm interlude after the utter chaos of your penultimate chapter.
>>722566305This is the justification used by some of the obnoxious and disdainful busybodies known to man. That partial responsibility has to stop somewhere, and its better to stop it closer to the actual guilty parties rather than later.
>>722543746Flowey is still a bitch, canonically, non-canonically.
>>722566437Then why do their clothes turn to dust when they die?
>>722573338A hot image of Zenith Martlet.Normal Martlet would also be appreciated.
>>722588908If that's the case put in a request for them to draw something lol.
>>722591881also another thing I remembered, clover being too strong/agile from the start, sure he has the knowledge of multiple timelines now, but it still feels a bit too much, and how the fuck did he get money to buy the equipment and guns at the start, did he haggle for it?but I'm willing to let it go for more kanaclover
>>722568967>tying it back to *that* imagethanks anon, really needed that in mind for this wholesome family photo
>>722593325I just started, and its mentioned he had gold coins in his pocket so Im assuming that
>>722562240Well, Kris might be aware that we're more aware of their world than what was exposed or shown to us directly. We know what Asriel looks like despite not ever meeting him in the game yet. If they don't know how much we know, it's safer to deny us the information, lest we piece everything together and do something about it. Shit, the kid might think we already know who the Knight is. But better to play it safe and keep outright confirmation out of our grasp. And that's not even getting into how we can completely ruin everyone's lives if we really wanted to. Information is power.
>>722593332You making it sound like the anon is referencing something specific.Was it an old fanfic or something?
"Oh, sorry! I seem to have a vacation home in lalaland these days! Wait... say, im gonna take a shot in the dark here but....... YOURE ANOTHER BIRD MONSTER! Like me! Where you headed stranger?""..."
>>722541817if i was god himself i would still watch you retarded monkey killing each.actualy that explain a lot
>>722574227
>>722594102Saved. kek
>>722593695Wait you don't know?Long story short the Drawanon currently taking requests, was requested to draw an image with Martlet and Clover.Said image involves Martlet, and even Zenith Martlet doing a certain something to Clover to transform him into a bird monster.The images that they drew ended up becoming very popular here and on e6.And also had the added effect of bringing a lot of life to these threads to.
>>722593472maybe but wouldn't he need an ID still to buy all that stuff, and clover being suddenly aged up wouldn't have it, well I guess it isn't a big deal
deltatroon
>>722594370wrong thread buddy, this is the foxgirl appreciation thread
>>722594341now that did stand out to me, I just assumed when I saw the author here say he was into guns that he just really wanted to give clover guns>>722594370hey buddy I think you've got the wrong thread
>>722593332To be fair even I was thinking about those images, when I saw Martlet and bird Clover together, and Berdly asking where he came from lol.
>>722570524This is the first Oldentale art as well. So now any hypothetical Wikifags will already have art to look at if any of those should ever exist.
>>722586024From reading the devlog, it seems that VyletBunni, the lead dev, got a burst of inspiration and motivation from the 10th anniversary stream.
>>722571813but then he'd be nothing but a larper, just like starlo
>>722593332>>722594595Same. The images have becoming so big, it's kind of hard to not think about those images featuring Clover and Martlet.
>>722594454>picthe good ending
>>722595104Personally, I prefer the air
I miss juan dice posting
>>722573338Martlet cuddling with Clover's egg. Or maybe Bird Clover just after hatching.
>>722595283those are not mutually exclusive, ideally both
>>722595837fine, you drive a hard bargain, but I will marry both ceroba and martlet and be father to clover and kanako. this is my final offer.
>>722595346Juan Dice darkner when
>>722573338I'm gonna make one more selfish request since the thread is nearly over. Stick a old fashioned portrait or grainy black in white photo of Racter on the wall in the background of a Martlet drawing.
>>722573338>>722594595>>722594935>>722595525Congrats drawanon, the images you drew have becoming so popular that it's naturally accepted that anything Martlet/Zenith and bird Clover is associated with what you drew.
>>722595983but then kanaclover will be awkward
>>722576668Do it when you get home and post it in the /vrpg/ thread
>>722596076There's no blood relation. I am a man of virtue. What they do as they come of age is between then ad [heaven]. My duty as father is simply to keep them away from syringes and sink chemicals. I will wrangle the tard wives
>>722596004>Juan.>Deltarune Yellow's analog to the Mikes from Deltarune.>Two of the Juans are just regular darkners given names like Pluey the Shadowguy and Jongler the Zapper.>The Juan's unofficial leader is a YELLOW Pippins bandito, caballerro, drifter, or whatever.>His name? Juan Dice.
>>722595983ruined
>>722573338Clovers pov when he loses to Zenith Martlet, and gets unbirthed.
>>722570524>>And now, the first UTN art.Actually, pic related is the first UTN fanart, it was made like a year ago by another dev on the /vrpg/ thread
>>722596673I do not fear your words, I move forward with the mandate of heaven! If I have to I'll drink the forbidden sink liquids myself to keep them all safe!
>>722596896polygamy is cringe
>>722594595>>722594935I'm just gonna pretend its a suit she made for him, and the silence is because this is UT and humans are still kill on sight in the Underground.
>>722573338Geno Clover mad they got turned into a bird monster by Zenith Martlet, and Martlet looking smug about it, but also looking at Clover with an endearing look.
>>722597092yeah? and what are you going to do about it, get married to me as well? you can't stop me, you aren't just enough.
>>722596720Isn't it still the first on e6 though?
>>722597202Personally I think Berdly's mum and Zenith Martlet are fully aware of what she did to Clover to make him that way, and Clover's just happy to be part of the family.
>>722597451Oh, yeah, I thought they were talking in general
>>722597476I will IMAGINE it another way
>>722573338your flowey reaction gifs were awesome, maybe there can be one where it's flowey checking in on martlet a few months later down the line?
fate conspired against them
>>722597202With Martlet's facial expression it's heavily implied she 100% turned Clover into a bird monster lol
>>722581546Realistically, I don't think anyone is gonna know who they are until their games come out.
>>722541817Right and wrong will always be tainted by personal bias and no matter what you decide, you will always be discriminating in some way
>>722573338How about stern dty Martlet/Zenith and Cole being concerned of facing her wrath.
>>722541817If you turn this around, it means you should feel entitled to someone more powerful saving you for no reason other than that you existSounds like a commie fantasy
>>722597792With IMAGINATION anything is possible. I am manifesting a wholesome connotation.
>>722553403Out of curiosity, are you ok with Return to Form fan stuff? And if yeah, how would I be able to show without posting it on a forum, cause I'm hella embarrassed about my art.
>>722573338Hi again, this is completely different from everyone else's ideas bit I'd like to request the same thing I mentioned here. >>722546751Thanks for your consideration!
>>722598634what's wrong with just posting here?
You know what, I feel bad about taking and taking with those selfish requests, so I'm gonna give back to the threads. I will take a few pixel art requests. Results will be posted in the /vrpg/ thread.Just keep in mind I'm bad at posing and perspective, so the more complex a request, the less likely I'll be able to do it.
>>722598634Post it here anon. We appreciate all Uty fanart and fanfics. Don't be afraid to show them! Share your arts!
>>722599075zenith martlet defending clover from an attacker of your choice
>>722599019I am incredibly fucking nervous about lot of people seeing anything I do that isn't writing.
>>722598634Not Sig, but you could just make an account with an alias on E6 to post your art. You don't need to use your main screen name on the art.
>>722599075roba doing a kickflip
>>722598491Martlet turning Clover into a bird can also be wholesome, just like how martlet having large visible breasts in an image doesn't make it lewd.
>>722599075Ralsei smoking a blunt, but it's a shadowguy instead.
>>722573338I hope I'm not to late to post a request, but Ceroba being jealous at Martlet of having large breasts while she's flat.And Ceroba in complete disbelief when she sees how large Zenith's breasts are.
>>722599138I don't see why you should be when this is a completely anonymous image board. No one knows who you are. Absolute worst case scenario you just stop posting as the anon who posted that art, and any "hate" you somehow acquired goes away. There are basically no long term consequences for anything here.
>>722599075Draw this >>722544842
>>722594672>hypothetical WikifagsNow that you've shown off her design as well as her character concept, consider me one. Of course I'll have to see her in action to make a full judgement, but I like what you've shown so far.>>722599075So I'd like to request Wiki. Kill two birds with one stone and draw something you could actually use in the game.
>>722573338Clover or Cole being embarrassed at calling Martlet or Zenith mum, and Martlet trying to urge him to do it.
>>722599138I've posted shitty pixel art and doodles here before and nobody minded or called them shit even when they were, trust me, the absolute worst case scenario in these threads would be people ignoring your art, thats about it, don't be afraid to share your fanarts
>>722599474>So I'd like to request Wiki.Anything you want with her specifically?
>>722599474>Now that you've shown off her design as well as her character conceptWere you here for when I was actually talking about her character writing wise? Or did you just mean concept as in concept art?
>>722573338Martlet's reaction to how big her chest got when she became Zenith.
>>722598491Why did this mindbreak anons like the sans judgement?
>>722600053not that anon but unbirthing makes me nauseous to think about. martlet turning clover into a bird, maybe that could still be wholesome, but when I add the context it makes me dizzy
>>722599668I genuinely can't think of anything haha. Uh, maybe her battle sprites?>>722599814I wasn't here when you talked about her, but I did dig read through some of the archived ones. I think you changed her name since then, but if I recall she's one of Toriel's relatives right?
>>722600053The only thing broken is the chains on our mind. We are free to write and draw whatever we want, and to read it however we want.On a serious note, I think the IMAGINE mindset actually is an improvement. I'm not mad about it at all.
Round 2, here we gohttps://files.catbox.moe/cwhejm.png
not a fan of the overtly fetishistic martletfag that always does this every time this drawfag shows up, we know you like unbirthing and big tits you don't have to spam it
>>722600274Each time I have expressed my desire my rolls have drifted from them. I move forward this time in faith
>>722600203Honestly I don't even mind it. After a while I got used to it, and began to see the wholesome side to.It's to the point where it's kind of accepted Martlet does this to Clover to turn him into a bird monster.Heck it even began a big topic on e6, because of how popular the images got on there.
>>722600246>she's one of Toriel's relatives right? She's Toriel's older sister. She's the black sheep of the family
>>722599098Funny you mention fanfic as well, been hyperfocusing on fanfic for RTF but once again too embarrassed to do anything.
>>722600274just give me the fluffiest
>>722599217it's wholesome if it's a consensual way for pacifist clover to stay in the underground
>>722600274You know what time it is. Keep on rollin' baby.
>>722600349Many anons here like Martlet, and tits.Also it's pretty rude to refer to the drawanon as drawfag when they're simply taking requests just like Sig does.
>>722600349>unbirthing and big titsThose two things aren't even in the same galaxy, don't lump them together like they are.
>>722600274CAM ON GIVE ME MARTLET
>>722600649are you a newfag by chance? drawfag was the classical way of referring to drawanons back in the day. its not meant with malice.
>>722600568In most cases it's consensual which is why people like the concept of Martlet turning Clover into a bird monster.
>>722600649"Xfag" is just classic chan nomeclature
>>722600445Nta, I'm never gonna see it as wholesome, but I just accept it as another instance of 4chan wackiness and don't think too much of it. I just laugh at it when I see it.
>>722549291I am late again
>>722600801>In most cases it's consensualexamples?
>>722600742he's been here for over a year and somehow he's still a huge newfag
>>722600936sadly the old knowledge isn't as prevalent as it was even 10 years ago, but it is still important to hold onto fragments of the old ways. to remind newfaggotry of the correct path in life.
>>722600349The amount of people here that like Martlet, and just huge tits in general is so numerous. that the idea that you somehow lumped those same people with also like unbirthing is absurd.
