Is this the most pointless campaign story to have ever existed?
No and only tranny faggots hate 343, Bonnie Ross and Halo Infinite.
Halo is so fucking sad and pathetic these days it's not even remotely funny anymore. At this point it's been over 13 years of 343 shittery
>>722543293>existed to swerve away from 343's unpopular reclaimer trilogy that was dropped after Halo 5 and salvage the story>original Halo timeline will probably be dumped altogether anyways as Halo Studios starts over with CE remake Yeah... the entire timeline is gonna get scrapped.
>>722543842really is sad just seeing how much of a community this game had and they just pissed it all away within the last 13 years, and for what?
>>722543732tranny faggots are 343, Bonnie Ross and Halo Infinite's core demographic
>>722543293>343's story was so shit that they had to use fucking Halo Wars 2 characters to soft reboot the entire seriesThis will never not be funny.
>>722544196People will think you're joking but any xbox related community is full of them for some reason.
>>722543732Is this baby's first bait? Or is 343 that desperate that they hired shills to try and make their games look "based"
>>722543842>>722544118>Specifically hire people that hate Halo to make your Halo games>At no point as their producer do you decide to step in and say that maybe that's a really fucking terrible idea>Your most popular franchise is reduced to ash, and you've effectively lost your entire fanbaseWhen apathy sets in, there's no going back from that
>>722544283The more i think about it, the more i realize that Halo had no potential for actual sequels after 3 without going in a very different direction, the story was done and the status quo in its universe changed tremendously, they really had to handwave a lot of shit in stupid ways to make the world stay the same, and so even the Covenant war looks small and insignificang because apparently there were space pirates that are actually super tough and scary you guys!
>>722544039After MCC released on PC I had no reason to care about anything else. I'm happy with what we have now. My only wish is that some random guy develops a better UI for sapien and guerilla in the future along with better Blender integration. Also the modding community has a severe lack documentation but that can be fixed with time and passion. Modern Halo is dead and it's likely to be sold off to another company at some point where it will die a true death.
>>722544415The Halo community specifically exists smack dab in the middle of several other autistic communities that you wouldn't think would ever interact with each other but all overlap over loving Halo.
>>722543293That's not Halo 4 or Halo 5
>>722544039>original Halo story will be wrapped up and finished with some ebook written by chatgpt that no one will read except youtubers to make a video about it
>>722544681The whole direction they should have taken was making spinoffs during the Covenant War instead of what they did. It makes sense that there'd be some splinter factions of the Covenant left, and unironically the zealots that followed Jew Armada being a bunch of ragtags who held onto their religion made more sense than the Banished. A faction that is apparently just as large as the covenant but have never been mentioned or encountered before because ???I don't mind the Banished designs or their existence but the lore justification for them is batshit retarded. They should have been something like covenant remnants who decided to become mercs after the war, rather than a separate faction altogether that was fighting the covenant the same time as the humans.
>>722543293The last Halo I played was Halo 4.
>>722545908The whole setting was ripe for spinoffs but MS execs wanted Mister Chief front and center for marketing.
>>722543842>>722544118>>722544618They do this so young white kids don't have heroes
>>722544618When is Halo getting its Andor?
>>722543293nuHalo was really lost without the Prophets and Flood as the main enemies. There's not a single character in the entire 2nd trilogy that comes even close to as good as Truth was. The Diadact for a second had some potential, then they kill him off in the fucking first game and replace him with nothing for the next two.
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>>722546614Looking back on it, it's crazy that they killed Miranda and Johnson in the same gameHalo was quite literally left with barely any major characters at the end of 3>Could have gotten a series of games with the Arbiter with him trying to find Chief, while discovering a new enemy faction along the way>Remember that people hated playing as Arbiter in 2 so much that he got reduced to having barely a role at all in 3
>>722544118Halo has now been shit longer than it was good. This of course now means Halo is an overall shit game franchise.One of my go-to franchises for years.
>>722546614>The Diadact for a second had some potentialHe never had potential, just a shitty Marvel villain. Only potential he had was as a boss fight, but they decided to just make it a shitty quick time event. Cinema to video games was the worst mistake this industry made. Fuck PlayStation and Xbox.
>>722544681There's nothing wrong with the 'potential for sequels'. 343 just took a fat shit on all of them. There were numerous successful options they didn't take. Even games that loosely imitate Halo become wildly successful.
>>7225478654 should've switched between Locke with Blue Team and Arbiter as they hunt for Chief. And Locke shouldn't been such a fucking bland milquetoast token nigger character either. If it was well-written and sequel baited well enough I don't think people would've minded too much not having Chief for one game
>>722545908Halo's universe is boring and it's garbage. It should have stayed a video game.
>>722543293>Is this the most pointless campaign story to have ever existed?That's not Gears 5
>>722548321lorefags like you need the bullet. Halo 5's campaign was the worst in the series. I don't understand why you retards need to be told this a million times until you understand it. I'm tired of Spartans outside of Chief, I'm tired of the Covenant, I'm tired of the Flood, I'm tired of the repeated ass Halo rings, and I'm tired of the lore. If you can't use game lore properly, don't bother.
>Halo 4 onwards was supposed to be a new trilogy>totally drop all plot points and characters from the previous game with each releaseWhat the fuck were they doing?Diadact dies in a comic and the forerunners stuff is forgotten.Guardian and Cortanas AI uprising totally dismissed, cortana dies off screen, every other spartan in 5 never mentioned again.
>Halo was once so popular other developers would make games and call them Halo Killer It was a different time
>>722548674and now people don't even make X killers anymore. It's just chasing that fortnite cash
>>722548401>Turned a series about brotherhood forged via battle into some weird motherhood shit>Also turned JD into lord giga chud supreme because ???>Saddle you with the black dude for the entire game as your coop partner>Despite this, people still saved JD overwhelmingly because they didn't wanna break Marcus heartDumbass devs really thought people would save Rey, the guy they barely know or Marcus son.
>>722548650>What the fuck were they doing?Halo Infinite was the start of the Game Pass era of Xbox, Phil Spencer's era. Xbox wanted a soft-reboot away from Don Mattrick's era of Halo. We're about to get another soft-reboot into the multiplatform era of Halo.>Diadact dies in a comic and the forerunners stuff is forgotten.It was shit, like Halo 4>Guardian and Cortanas AI uprising totally dismissed, cortana dies off screen, every other spartan in 5 never mentioned again.It was shit like Halo 5Why do you care, you're an actual fan of that movie trash?
>>722548674Thanks for reminding of that shit era, fuck Halo, honestly.
>>722548401>>722548895>Popular franchise about cliched utra muscular action hero dudes chainsawing giant lizardmen in half>Staple IP for Xbox beloved by nerds, dudebros, and ethnics alike>Finish main trilogy and replace your MC with a snarky brown girl>Interest tanks and kills the IP for 10 yearsWho would've thunk
>>722548401>>722549059Lizzie should have been the MC
>>722548895I chose to save JD in an instant. Like I didn't even take a second to think about saving Del.
>>722548401>introduce masked tomboy character with a confident, friendly, and fun personality>Kill her in the same gameI get shes a carmine and they're designed to die but I do not understand why they killed her and kept Clayton even though he was so old and tired of it all.
>>722549608Wrong image but you can enjoy that one too.
>>722543293I was a big fan of halo and its one of my favorite games series... and i didnt even buy halo infinite or play the campaign lol. I did play the multiplayer a bit (it plays decently but there was 0 content at launch and the recently added stuff is years late + still forge based)
>>722549965I really don't understand the mind of someone who plays a multiplayer with body sliders and black man claiming to be a woman playing dress up.
>>722549965>(it plays decently but there was 0 content at launchThis is the other problem with nuHalo. I even liked 5's gameplay but eventually dropped it partly due to how fucking terrible the variety was and I didn't even pick up Infinite. 3 and Reach blew all of 343's games completely out of the water in terms of maps and game modes that were constantly being added and rotated.
>>722548895>>722549384The only people choosing del are urkel hoteps and ethnics seething at White people after getting cucked by BWC their whole lives. Even as a character protrayed like shit, JD is the choice every single time over the DEI hero the devs tried to force lol
>>722550283Whos the black tranny in halo infinite? And just remeber, halo 5 had literal BBL yoga pants female spartans. Infinite turned them into body type 1/2/3s but h5 was gooner tier >>722550362Exactly, H4 and H5 were atleast high quality AAA, infinite was a f2p and felt like it.
>>722550569You seriously don't remember this thing?
>other spartans show up>have no idea who they are>game plays them up like they are supposed to be some huge fucking deal>ask online who the fuck these guys even are>get fags telling me I need to read the books to find out who these spartans are and that they are total badasses known across the galaxy>game explains none of this
>>722550810nta but the inclusion of this thing was so forgettable and strange. she was used for marketing promos for some dumbass cgi trailers but in the game she absolutely 0 presence apart from being your training guide for some reason in the firing range? I think she might also be the announcer who tells you when an objective is being taken or something.I don't understand why she exists. She fills a role that previously did not exist for 0 purpose.
>>722550810This image looks like an AI generated shitpost. Grim.
>>722544681What was necessary was impossible because the fans always demand the opposite of what they actually want. They want the same feeling they had playing the first few games and they think that comes from fan fic wheel spinning. Even if 343 did something interesting it would have been shat on for being too different and only a decade later would it have been appreciated.
>>722550854>>get fags telling me I need to read the books to find out who these spartans are and that they are total badasses known across the galaxy>>game explains none of thisThis is why people enjoyed Bungie-era Halo. Everything you needed to know was in the games. All of the book lore was treated as complimentary and was never above the games in importance. Hell, I think the little booklets that came with Halo 1 and 2's packaging and the lore within them had a heavier presence than any book too.
>>722550854What Spartans?
>>722548461>I'm tired of everything that in Halo except the green guyThen fuck off, faggot. You obviously don't know what you want and cannot be appeased. You're only making things worse. Move on to something else.
>>722551243the fans were pretty fucking forward about what they wanted from the start and 343 always gave them the opposite. they almost got it right with Infinite but released a game that had spent half a decade in the oven and was still years away from being finished.
>>722550810Never played the campaign for it because it just looked like trash. But just lmao if this is real
>forerunners were.......le humans!
>>722551567She doesnt appear in the campaign. Only in the Multiplayer training and some promo material. I genuinely believe her existence is from some Blackrock ESG money and Staten stuffed her as far away from anything relevant as possible.
>>722550854It's three other Master Chiefs. That's why they're a big deal. What else do you need to know?
>>722551424Probably means Blue Team in 5.Honestly this series really needed more spinoffs like what ODST brought to the table if they wanted expansive characters to act like they're big deals. Instead literally everyone that matters beyond Chief and Cortana ended up being from a book, a comic, a live action series, etc. And frankly I'm not surprised that Blue Team still has plenty of people who have no idea who they are, Bungie era books or not. I'm not gonna ask someone go read Fall of Reach just so they know about the other Spartans active from Chief's generation.
>>722551513You fuck off, we ended the fucking war in the third damn game, why are we still fighting the same fucking war? You can tell everyone dropped off with Halo 4 the moment those pricks announced the Covenant were back, fuck that.
>>722551650I know, she appearing the multiplayer and the Spartan body slider thing pushed me towards campaign and campaign alone. At least I got a female character with an ass in the campaign, lol.
>>722546389You say this yet we got play as spartan nigger locke for most of Halo 5
>>722551625That isn't even the most retarded thing. It's that ancient humans did exist, were not the Forerunners, had a big war with the Forerunners over a retarded misunderstanding and then somehow the Forerunners decided that human descendants should be the reclaimer of their technology.
>>722551743>why are we still fighting the same fucking war?
>>722551847I'm still bothered by how little naming sense 343 had for all that.>Did you know that the Forerunners and Ancient Humanity were created by the same species: the Precursors?
>>722551878Halo is a video game series, you stupid fucking prick.
>>722551847>muh mantle of responsibilityI genuinely can't think of a more retarded hackneyed concept than this stupid fucking shit.
>>722551743Then what would you make Halo 4 about? Who would the bad guys be?
>>722548401>Even Gears Tactics who was supposed to be about the locust wars ties back to this shitI'm worried they'll try to shoehorn reyna or something into gears e-day just to fill that sassy brown woman quota
After the end of Halo 3, all those years ago, I kept hoping the next game would be him waking up hundreds or thousands of years in the future after the wrecked ship he was cryosleeping on was finally found
>>722552057arby and the chief hunting some rogue covenant factions that refuse to surrender, a contact harvest game starring johnson, literally ANYTHING except cortana goes full womancel
>>722552057nta, I'd probably have actually tried to deliver on the ONI bad guys plot that got thrown in the air with 5's shit but amounted to nothing. instead of more ancient evils awakening, i'd probably keep Covvies who are both allied and enemies in the aftermath of 3, some human splinter cell forces as the main focus of antagonists, built carefully to support the sandbox instead of just lolmarinereskins. none of the Promethean shit, but instead ONI playing stupid games to win stupid prizes and interfactional warfare on a smaller scale til someone shoots too high.
>>722551969Ill wait for an apology.
>>722551650I genuinely didnt see it or dont remember it. OFc its blackrock DEI agenda. masterchud has to be scolded and 1 upped by officer shaniqua
>>722552057New alien faction that would replace the Covenant, some old members would return possibly as allies to keep some familiars including weapons, but the Covenant faction would be completely replaced by a new faction that fits the same mold. The Flood would be replaced by the Endless. I would keep doing this replacements every time a faction gets stale and served its purpose. The only things about Halo I would keep are Master Chief, Cortana, UNSC, and the Forerunners while keeping the Halo sandbox gameplay. The rest are replaceable. Also, no Spartans, I would leave them all dead and not create new ones.
>>722546563that was Halo Wars 2
>>722550810Still not sure what to think of her and that entire abandoned multiplayer plot. Because that's just what anyone wants for their Halo story: wasting a custom OC opportunity on lolcomputervirusmindfuck. Also bizarre that she inexplicably got 100% unique armor that took 4 years for players to get.
>>722552208Again, Halo is a video game series, when you kill a faction in a game, that's the end of the faction. I you're here to tell some movie storyline, go make a movie or write a book.
>>722552153I'm asking the anon who said he's sick of the Covenant. Are you that guy? Note that I will call you the n-word if you are.> a contact harvest game starring johnsonThis would be fucking sick though. Or another ODST game.>>722552196The problem with this is that you have human enemies, which is fundamentally un-Halo. If Halo is about *anything*, it is a green dude in space shooting aliums.
>Oh yeah, THAT happened.....
>>722552462I'm still fucking angry hollywood got their grubby jewish pedo mittens on halo and the first thing they do is remove master cheifs helmet.
>>722543293yes but in terms of gamepllay the huge wide open fights feel awesome if youre on legendary I dont know why people dont mention this its some of the most fun ive had in a halo sp (when its good)
>>722552409>The problem with this is that you have human enemies, which is fundamentally un-Halo. If Halo is about *anything*, it is a green dude in space shooting aliums.This is a series where Arby shot some humans while the player was in control, and frankly ONI are so fucking full of shit that they can barely be considered human for the shit they got away with. 343 seriously made them cartoonishly evil at the same time Traviss went on the "FUCK HALSEY" spree, throw some SPARTAN off-shoot armor on them powered by stolen Covvie tech and you've basically got a whole faction of monsters that claim they're fighting for humanity from within.
>like, zoinks chief! Thats Hasley you're fucking!
>>722546614andd theres some semi interesting stuff they could adapt from the books but they ignored alll of it. Crazy.
>>722552409>Are you that guy?You completely ignored me >>722552306
>>722552306Aight that's fair. What I was getting is that Halo needs a variety of (probably alien) enemies to be Halo. So if you remove the Covenant you need to replace them with another very similar faction that happens to be a coalition of alien races that hate humanity. But fine, it's better than slapping a new coat of paint on the Covenant and calling them the Banished.
>>722546614>The Diadact for a second had some potential, then they kill him off in the fucking first game and replace him with nothing for the next two.funny enough he comes back in the stupid comics just to basically be Skeletor so he can murder Black Team and then die again.
>>722552135Halo did to me the same thing Assassins Creed did. They tricked me into thinking they were going to go in a different direction than they actually did.
>>722548202I liked him. First time a villain in Halo seemed to genuinely outclass the Master Chief in every way. I also liked that he woke up, immediately took over the Covenant, found Earth, got in his ship and went off to kill all humans. No fucking around. A shame 343 pussied out and made him a jobber.
>>722552135Pretty cool idea tbqh. Gives humanity some time to rebuild as well and perhaps develop into a new faction. Also if there has been a few hundred years of peace, it means that all the sacrifice in Halo 3 wasn't for nothing.
>>722549608They had a kill or spare campaign for Clayton in the pre-release for 3 and spare won. that's why he lived and has been freed of the Carmine curse.
>>722553234>master chief wakes up 500 years in the future after the end of Halo 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v32VypWeF0IId play it.
>>722552765I feel like the Banished just needs some new aliens, never before seen, added their ranks including the cut Crusher but fun to fight. Add Banished Spartans and Banished AIs as well which would add their uniqueness over the Covenant along with Banished mechs. I also liked the idea of the Endless, I just didn't like that 343 cucked out on revealing them. 343 seem to finally get that Halo doesn't need the Covenant or Flood, it just needs the Halo sandbox, Master Chief, a Cortana, UNSC, and Forerunners and that's it.
>>722553234Honestly, that would have worked, worked for Half-Life.
>>722553684Honestly what happened with the Banished is also nonsense. Some loose space pirates and scavengers that have great leadership in an RTS game, suddenly lose their homeworld and go apeshit and stomp Cortana and the UNSC off-screen in ways that seem effortless? Then Chief can just mop up the remnants with very few issues six months later? It's downright farcical how badly they wanted the Banished to be the new Covenant but failed to actually make them compelling.
>>722552812>Somehow the didact has returned.The didact did have potential as this one Forerunner that went with an insane solution to the flood problem, it was everything else like the ancient humans that was just really stupid.Another angle was making the Prometheans a different species altogether that the Forerunners encased because they were unhinged.While not as dangerous as the flood, their obsession with A.I and synthetic life form was a different take on the same plague and they were the first species to had known and interacted with the Forerunners while they were around, so they saw themselves as the chosen ones to carry the mantle and rule the galaxy.Requiem shielding protected most of the life inside the planet from the Halo event and that was all that was needed to make a good antagonist, a super species that knows how to properly operate Forerunner equipment, can read their language and know and it is hell bent to enslave the galaxy.As for the banished, the brutes mech warrior like tech is really cool, so I am not mad at them but they were clearly overhyped as treat. Also Cortana's A.I revolution being cut altogether from the lore and games due to 343i inability to get writers is fantastic.
>>722556791My problem with 343 is that they're writing a book and calling it a game, I don't want a book, I want a game. Infinite's campaign felt like the first video game 343 actually made that was distant from bookshit. I hated Halo 4 and 5 because they didn't feel like video games at all.
>>722543293Why did they nerf headshots so hard in this game? Felt like I was playing some weird mmo like Destiny instead of Halo
>>722543293It was a fun campaign. I think it couldve flourished if they followed it up with campaign dlc in a reasonable timeframe
>>722557335It's so fucking sad. The majority of old fans want to play Halo. They want the new games to succeed, but it feels like the devs are allergic to writing coherent plotlines.>"big bad" endless of Infinite is constantly built up as "the only thing the forerunners feared more than the flood">finally meet them>they're functionally the same as the drones from halo 3 except they all have vehicle disabling sniper rifles so they're not fun to fight>that's it>that's literally all they do
>>722544681>>722545908ODST and Reach were as good as it was ever going to get. Any further games would need to be set up in a completely different era a la KOTOR, and the Halo universe wasn't exactly set up for that to work well given that there's no ancient past aside from the Forerunner lore which works best as an eternal mystery.Making every follow-up game feature Master Chief fighting against some new whacky alien threat was cringe bullshit akin to the Star Wars sequel trilogy (>>722544618).The Star Wars parallels are hilarious, actually:>>722548650>Guardian and Cortanas AI uprising totally dismissed, cortana dies off screen>Somehow, Palpatine returned
>>722544681ONI spooks should have been the villains, which is what the marketing for Halo 5 promised but instead we got liquid shit.
>>722557846>finally meet themwait, what? when?
>>722557846The skimmers aren't the endless. The only Endless we know of was the harbinger who was played by Debra Wilson.
>>722557846It's actually really sad when you see the Helldivers 2 launch day numbers on Xbox. What was a rather modest amount between PS5/PC suddenly hit 3x the player count in short order. ODSTs and the promise of a cool new sci-fi shooter got the Xbox crowd in fast before tapering off a bit. People are ITCHING for some fun shooters regardless of the IP, but it feels like Halo is stuck in an abyss of incompetent mediocrity.
>>722558001>Guardian and Cortanas AI uprising totally dismissed, cortana dies off screenI don't even know why you guys are getting mad about this? Halo is a video game, what the hell does a bunch of big ass space owls I'm not fighting as bosses and my AI instruction manual being a movie villain have anything to do with gameplay? Why is it even here and wasn't cut during development. That was stupid and if Halo didn't get out of its movie phase, I was dropping it.
>>722558651There's many reasons why shooting shit in the Bungie era was fun, and part of it was a narrative reason to be shooting shit no matter how action movie threadbare it was. People were upset that after all their attempts to hype shit up for two games in a row, so many things got entirely abandoned and in 5's case, resolved entirely off-screen with no one even getting any idea of what happened but some aftermath audio logs talking about it. There's bad plots, and then there's not even having the balls to actually go through with their consequences.
>>722556791>Requiem shielding protected most of the life inside the planet from the Halo event and that was all that was needed to make a good antagonist, a super species that knows how to properly operate Forerunner equipment, can read their language and has access to their knowledge base, and it is hell bent to enslave the galaxy.>As for the banished, the brutes mech warrior like tech is really cool, so I am not mad at them but they were clearly overhyped as threat. Also Cortana's A.I revolution being cut altogether from the lore and games due to 343i inability to get writers is fantastic.Had to fix that.>>722556970I don't frown at the decision to have multiple media but it is the end result that is really dumb.Halo 4 and 5 are unrelated to each other and you could guess it was made to make escalation matter, but that is not how you do crossover media.There is so much too unpack.Like trying to make a big media franchise using inexperienced people trying to fill for what was MS best developer. The thing is that the winning move for Bungie and Ms was for MS to support Destiny and we would be in a better spot.Halo was told, and that was the end.If you ask me, aside the stupid lore, the core issue it that nuHalo has dogshit gameplay, bad level design, terrible gameplay choices, and the story they tried to tell just kept spin its wheels going nowhere.There was a clear lack of vision, direction, and mismatching tones. Obviously you can blame it all on management who are 100% at fault here. Kiki Wolf oversee most of the media and the dumb bitch messed up the Paramount show, totally on her.The best thing that could happen to Halo is that Halo Studios exists as this two room office that just lends the IP to other studios.You wanna make a Halo game? Pay MS a fee and it is yours, which is ultimately what most studios will do, much like Konami and Castlevania.
>>722558651>why do video games have plots?>why do video games have graphics? >why do video games have music?>why do paintings have colors?>why do books have paragraphs?do you people hear yourselves
>>722552409Have ONI secretly subvert the alien societies, funding covenant remnants to keep them weak and in conflict, while using forerunner tech to establish a tyrannical state over humans. Brutes and elites find out about ONI meddling and their use of forerunner tech, so the brutes declare total war against humanity. Chief teams up with the elites to foil ONIs plans and defeat the brutes.There, now you have a story where ONI are the villains while you still get to fight aliums.
>>722558816Halo 4 and 5 were shit. At least Bungie had the decency to make a fucking video game first and foremost. If 343 wanted to make Halo 4 and 5 book crap, they should have quit being game developers and just wrote Halo books. If I'm playing a Halo game, I better be playing a video game completely divorce of Halo novel crap.>>722558952>why do video games have plots?To get from point A to B, if it's as complicated as a movie the script needs to be gutted. Gameplay > story>why do video games have graphics?Graphics don't matter, that's why AAA games are crashing.>why do video games have music?Only important point you made>why do paintings have colors?>why do books have paragraphs?We're talking about video games, not a painting or book.>do you people hear yourselvesI expected a video game, and 343 gave me a crappy movie with scripted segments, linear hallways, quick time events, and moving forward to end game. Halo 4 and 5 were pure shit.
>>722543293no that would be counter-strike
>>722558932>You wanna make a Halo game? Pay MS a fee and it is yours, which is ultimately what most studios will do, much like Konami and Castlevania.Fine by me, those faggots sucked at making Halo and video games, in general. Now maybe when that lore shows up in the games again, they can have some good use from a gameplay standpoint.
>>722552057Halo 4, but the Didact is an ancient human gone crazy, the Covenant don't ally with him cause he starts killing them, and they try to usurp his control over the Prometheans to fight Humanity with, and at the end there's a boss fight. Also, all enemies speak intelligibly instead of gibberish and your AI allies don't fire on corpses as if they were the most dangerous threat on the battlefield.
>>722544415This hapens when everyone in a community left and the only one who sticks around are faggots and trannies because of the company plundering to lgbt for marketing reasons
>>722552057Halo 3's Legendary Ending was clearly Chief and Cortana floating towards Onyx. It should have just taken place during/after the events of Ghosts of Onyx.
>>722552853People shit on the modern sections of AC but they made 1 and 2 a lot more interesting in terms of worldbuilding and grander schemes. It all got thrown away with how retarded things became in 3 onwards, to the point that Desmond's plotline no longer matters and the mysterious ancients are now just pretty much pagan gods.
>>722544681The obvious pivot anon was the fragmentation of the covenant into organizations like the Banished (as in they become the banished after the fact, not being some peer to covenant force beforehand, the Prophets wouldn't have replaced the Elites with Brutes if they were this rebellious).While the covenant went into religious schism and open civil war. The UNSC would reconnect with survivor colonies that don't want to rejoin after being "abandoned" by Earth and the return of Innies as a major threat for a very fragile human government.These two major events would be the base political environment as the activation of the Ark and more led to even more Forerunner facilities coming back online. Leading to a sort of cold war arms race of various groups trying to loot the ruins for precursor technology.Functionally, it would be the maturation of the story (from a game only perspective) where unambiguous heroes (like chief) are literally stored away in a Fridge while more ambiguous characters (Halsey, some ONI spook character, ODST/Marine characters, terrorism, maybe a Spartan IV) take on more prominent roles. This would naturally open more to a Halo Wars 2 like story instead of a Halo 4-Infinite story which are shit.New Alien races (not precursor, not flood) can be introduced and more hints (not terminal explain everything and retcon shit) about old humanity and their Forerunner era could be revealed. Hell they could have made a game from a Brute's perspective, maybe the guy that would become the leader of the Banished, or they could expand on the Arbiter's story since fans had more or less accepted him by 3? People liked ODST so a nonspartan game could work, or they could have pivoted into animation/movies. Or if all of this was just too risky/scary for investors, You could make a prequel series starting with an adaptation of contact harvest or follow a new spartan.Basically, anyone but 343 could have done so much more.
>>722564160>Basically, anyone but 343 could have done so much more.I often think of the fact that Microsoft would have had a better continuation of the franchise if they just randomly picked a fucking fan to be franchise head instead of Frank O'Connor.
fact of the matter is that halo will never work now that post-9/11 post-iraq/afghanistan jingoism has worn off
>>722550854Emile Master ChiefJun MasterchiefMasterchief MasterchiefandI'll be honest I forgot the last red team>It's blue team sirBlue team member, so let's call her Cat-Masterchief.Anyways, these characters were supposed to be dead since the Fall of Reach except for Jun-Masterchief, she somehow avoided getting killed by covvies, infected by flood, or dying on the Ring despite being in the Pillar of Autumn on Ice, she literally just happened to be in the same fighter that the chief used to escape iirc.It's... really not good writing, even if it's part of the "good" Halo books.
>>722543293Halo 2 is unironically more pointless>The Covenant is invading Earth!>wait no they are not>wait yes they are (but with monkey instead of lizard)I like Halo 2's campaign in terms of levels but the narrative is so bad and blatantly filler. It makes me sperg out that nobody sees how pointless the entire thing is. Did the longest campaign really have to be dedicated to monkey vs elite chimpout?
>>722564950Back in 2004, people saw the game as pointless.
I feel like the expanded universe was a massive mistake and that 343i should have stayed in the reach era with spartan IIIs, simply cause I think it would have been the easiest thing for them to do. The promethean thing is just ehhhhhhhhh and the whole game lost its personality in their process of trying to establish their own version of halo to one-up bungie imo. All they had to do was make good fun halo games, no one gave a damn about 343i's reputation and identity in the gaming industry.
>>722543293>Spend the intro building up big bad>He's timeskip>He already diedwhat the fuck were they doing there?Sad thing is that the open world formula actually kinda worked, but then they decided to set the entire game in a single biome and to not have anything happen in the story.
>>722544118Trying to appeal to the HIV+ crowd
>>722548401Granted, I haven't played the first 3 Gears in years, but these characters look like they belong in an entirely different franchise.
The story of Halo was never meant to support anything beyond a finished fight. A universally relatable war story full of heroic figures about humanity struggeling to fight against an alien threat. You can see this in how the competent studio focused on prequels once the original trilogy was over until their time with the series was up. Everything that has come afterwards has sucked. It has lacked identity and been at odds with the audience cultivated by the original games.
>>722543732>No and only tranny faggots hate 343, Bonnie Ross and Halo Infinite.So did the game improve after she was fired or was I vindicated in never coming back to it?
>>722543293I think Infinite's story was a colossal mess but still had some strong points. IMO 343, whether intentional or accidental, finally nailed the balance between Chief's heroic persona thrust upon him, and the reality that he's a bit of a dork who doesn't know how to casually interact with people he's not immediately familiar with.I'm also of the opinion that Chief's Infinite armor is the best he's ever looked. It leans more into the classic Greek mythos design of the idealized hero, with the wider upper body and shoulders emphasizing a larger than life stature.The open world was a complete waste of time. So much development time could have been salvaged if they never bothered with this.
>>722570871The worst thing about the open world for me is that you can see the entire map from the very start of the game - even in the intro when you're not even there yet. The map isn't particularly massive so it's pretty disappointing to get that information at the very start. Elden Ring is much smarter in that you have no idea how big the game is until you finally see it all.
>>722570871I liked the upgrades you got
Halo Wars 1 is legitimately good. Halo Wars 2 is both a downgrade gameplay-wise (you literally control less units on screen) and narratively dogshit aside from some actual potential with the Banished in that game that sadly did not translate into other games, which even if it didn't it wouldn't matter because Infinite's gameplay is shit and the human side of the plot is also dogshit.
>>722571592What's wrong with Infinite's gameplay?
>>722571703Not him but sprint dash and the double tap space to vault kinda fucks up movement and map verticality. Also it still has reticle bloom from Reach and hitmarkers from Halo 4.
>>722570871>The open world was a complete waste of timeSo many people were basedjak-ing over the open world because linear games are le bad. I hope that stupid fad is done with. There is nothing wrong with a bespoke, linear campaign, built around the sequential introduction of game mechanics.
>>722543293Even with the deep discount today it's NOT worth it. I regret this campaign so much
>>722544415Because everyone else with testosterone just up and left when they saw the power rangers sunday cartoon bullshit 343 comes up with each release.
>>722544618This guy gets his mom to call the doctor to set up his appointment
The Infinite campaign was literally hacked together last minute because they fucking around for many years and then had to rush the game out the door.
>>722568392Gears 5 actually has a good campaign. The story is pointless, but it has good pacing and hits all the beats. The DLC story is better though.
>>722543293It felt like a story of the franchise healing but in classic 343i's fashion, they were trying to erase everything from the past games despite Infinite having the potential of including more than 1 Spartan. And yes, I'm talking about the inclusion of Locke because as it stands right now, Infinite is a poor man's Combat Evolved that didn't attempt to do anything unique with its story.
>>722543842I was about to say at least it isn't Destiny, but somehow fucking DESTINY delivered better on it's core premise. At least you got to actually fight and kill the Shitness after it was retconned into the leader of the Black Fleet, instead of having all your accomplishments rendered moot by increasingly convoluted asspulls.
>>722543293It’s actually insane how nothing happens. How did they make a story so boring
>>722564367The only way to make Halo work is to lean harder into the schizo Hero's Journey shit laid down by Marathon. Which won't happen, because Bungo has lost everyone capable of writing schizo PTSD monomyth kino.
>>722543293Itho 'Hesiikee? JOBBED to BASE CHADtrioxLet 'Volir? JOBBED to Leader of the Banished GODtrioxJovus? JOBBED to CHADer of the GODished CHADtrioxDouglas? JOBBED to War Master CHADtrioxAlice? JOBBED to CHAD Master CHADtrioxJerome? JOBBED to CHAD CHADster CHADtrioxThe Infinity? JOBBED to JIHADIST GODtrioxMaster Chief? JOBBED to MY NAME IS GODtrioxCortana? JOBBED to TANKtrioxArbiter? JOBBED to War CHAD of the BRVTES GODtrioxThe Flood? JOBBED to CHAD CHAD of the CHADS CHADtrioxENTER BRVTETHE LEADER OF THE FREE GALAXYTHE COVENANT'S ONE FEARTHE GOD OF TWO TIMELINESTHE INHERITOR OF THE MANTLE OF RESPONSIBILITYTHE BENDER OF KNEESTHE LEADER OF THE BANISHEDTHE ALPHATHE OMEGATHE UNDEFEATEDTHE UNSTOPPABLETHE INVINCIBLE THE INEVITABLETHE ENDLESSTHE GOD OF TIMEENTER BRVTETHE CHAD MASTER OF THE CHADISHEDCHADTRIOX, THE LAST FACE YOU WILL EVER SEE
>>722543293No, that would be Halo 5, who's story was so dogshit that Infinite needed to soft reboot the franchise in the first place. Who even makes these threads? Zoomers who played Halo 5 when they were 10 and are mad their nostalgia got dumpstered?
>>722548650>What the fuck were they doing?>Diadact dies in a comic and the forerunners stuff is forgotten.>Guardian and Cortanas AI uprising totally dismissed, cortana dies off screen, every other spartan in 5 never mentioned again.All this shit was really fucking gay. It sucked. Nobody liked it. What they were doing was the smart thing by scrapping it all.
>>722576043Based alert
>>722575548>they were trying to erase everything from the past games despite Infinite having the potential of including more than 1 Spartan. And yes, I'm talking about the inclusion of LockeWho the fuck actually wants Locke in the story? There was literally nothing salvageable from Halo 5
>>722576318Me because Infinite story turned out to be sterile and extremely predictable so the least thing they could is introduce an equal, not a dicksucker like that latine pilot.
>>722576769>Me because I'm an extreme contrarian who's mad that there wasn't enough viscerally repellant dogshit in the game to be mad aboutWeird opinion
>>722552462The only good WeBMs I have seen of this are when they are making CorridorDigital-tier action scenes
>banished lose to the outdated spirit of fire in Halo wars2>somehow become strong enough to destroy the infinity with master chief on itHow?
>>722576043I can't wait for him to die offscreen before Halo 7 takes place
>>722576131Halo 5's story sucked shit but it at least had a beginning, a middle and an end. Things happened during it, even if what happened was retarded. At the end you have a set up for a sequel focused on an AI War against the Guardians or some shit, though honestly who knows how the fuck that even would have gone.Infinite by contrast has a mediocre story, that goes nowhere. From the beginning of the game to the end NOTHING happens. No revelations. No big changes. Everything that is even remotely interesting happens offscreen or in audio logs.
>>722577435>StrawmanThat's a classic
>>722577949>It at least had a beginning, middle, and end that were so bad they all literally killed the franchise, I want more of that just so I can laugh at it's corpse
>>722578186nice reading comprehension midwit
>>722543842Try 20Outside of forge and coop halo 3 has issues
>>722543732Yes and only tyranny faggots like 343, Bonnie Ross and Halo Infinite.
>>722578817I read your post just fine. I simply think this whole logic train>Things happened during it, even if what happened was retardedIs massive cope considering how bad it was and the negative consequences that followed
>>722579002Yes and he is saying that Infinite is even worse because it fails to even tell or a story
>>722579002It's not cope I think Halo 5's story is the worst entry in the franchise story-wise by far and its story is fucking abysmal and 343 wrote themselves into a corner with its ending. However, it does things. There's revelations regarding Cortana and her Guardians. There's clear stakes set. There's a resolution and cliffhanger ending that's a culmination of everything the rather retarded story was building towards.Halo Infinite by comparison, Master Chief is no better or worse by the end of the game than the start. The plot has no progression. The fictional halo universe is the exact same from the game's start and finish, with any changes only happening offscreen. Nothing happens in the game. At all. It is a better story for what it is, with better writing, but it's still completely pointless.
>>722579273Telling "no" story is the only path forward. There is literally zero viable path forward continuing Halo 5's narrative. To any extent. The franchise died. It was over. Your only two options are as follows>Soft reboot the franchise after like a 100 year time skip where you have Blaster Beef, the sole remaining Spartan VII, fighting against waves of angry aliens who want to destroy humanity because they're mad about Cortana after she got blown up offscrern>Soft reboot the franchise starring Master Chief who's once again destroying the angry aliens who are mad about Cortana after she got blown up off screenThey opted for the latter. There is no reality where you wouldn't have gotten something similar to this.
>>722579559>Telling no story is the future>Gives two future scenarios that involve telling a storyInfinite already was your second idea, fighting aliens for little reason and zero story. It flopped
>>722579419>The fictional halo universe is the exact same from the game's start and finish, with any changes only happening offscreen. Nothing happens in the game. At all. It is a better story for what it is, with better writing, but it's still completely pointless.You could say much the same for the story of CE itself, since Infinite is basically copying it. The game begins and ends with Chief being the last Spartan who's fighting against the Covenant who just blew up Reach and are now coming for Earth. They found and destroyed Halo and (at least within the confines of CE's ending cutscene) the imminent threat of the Flood got killed in the crib. The whole plot of the game is basically just Chief taking a detour on the way home to Earth. That is to say, this is all just a tax on the narrative for having to kill 4+5 and have the franchise continue to exist at all
>>722579643Infinite flopped chiefly because the multiplayer was literally broken and had 0 content for months after launch, they sold a live service game with no service.
>>722543293it's actually tragic how this game completely ran the franchise into the ground and buried it, even from a narrative standpoint, forevermore. like nobody even cares where they go from here. it's like GoT season 8, where six shitty episodes of tv completely destroyed an entire decade's worth of cultural relevance. lamost as if it was literally some Mossad plot or some shit to crush compelling and/or inspiring media works of the West
>>722546563You got ODST
>>722552196>i'd probably keep Covvies who are both allied and enemies in the aftermath of 3, some human splinter cell forces as the main focus of antagonistsThere's a colonies vs. Earth/core worlds rebellion going on in the background of the Halo world, which got put on pause when the Covenant showed up and declared total genocidal war on all humans, but is back on by the time Halo 4 rolls around. The Spartans were originally created to fight the rebels so it's not some asspull.>>722552409>The problem with this is that you have human enemies, which is fundamentally un-Halo. If Halo is about *anything*, it is a green dude in space shooting aliums.But I agree with this too. It would be quite a jump away from Halo to be fighting other humans. Still, change can be good. ODST and Halo Wars pulled off doing something very different.
>>722552462Damn they really did Cortana dirty in that series. Only character they hire the original video game actresses for, and all so they could specifically and repeatedly humiliate her.
>>722562943Wasn't it the other way around? Pagan gods are really mysterious ancients?
