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How does it make you feel knowing that FromSoftware has two stains on their legacy?
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>>722550397
Nightreign was fun enough for the first month or so but the endless grind mode they added just felt really underwhelming.
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>>722550397
their legacy of releasing the same game over and over and over and over again?
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>>722550397
Those are both fun games thoughbeit
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>>722550397
Replace Nightreign with Deracine
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Nightreign is better than Elden Ring
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i've seen so many retards shitting on ds2, surely because zoomtubers decided to collectively hate it and make a bunch of videos one day
i bet it's gonna be the most enjoyable game of the series for me
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>>722550627
agreed
Elden Ring offered nothing of value, shouldn't even exist. Should've just released Nightreign
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>>722550397
Nightreign is fun though
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>>722550627
>>722550708
I don't understand this sentiment at all
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>>722550397
2 is far better than 3
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>>722550397
You forgot to include Bloodborne. Bloodborne is overrated dogshit
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>>722550397
Replace DS2 with DS3 and add the Demon Souls Remake
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>>722550931
>Demon Souls Remake
That wasn't done by Fromsoft
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>>722550958
It was that bad
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>>722550397
Elden Ring (OG) was already utter shit, nigger.
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>>722550397
DS2 was great, fuck you.
>>722550447
NR just absolutely drip-fed the updates is my issue. Every month they had to be dropping new shit or it wasn't gonna last.
>New mobs
>New weapons
>New classic field bosses
>New Nightfarers
>New Nightlords
>New Map
>More map seeds
If they'd dropped at least one of those every month the game would have more legs.
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Both fun games. That's all that matters.
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>>722550627
this
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>>722550397
they made shitty games before this.
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both fun, unlike DS3
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>>722550536
its funny you say this because each game might have the same fomula but they change enough of the rules that none of them play the same way which is why nobody can agree on which game is good or not because they all appeal to a different group of retards
protip; fromshit was never a good dev group and have skirted by with extreme luck the entire time
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>>722553649
you're indian
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Nightreign runs are 40 minute sequences of performing the same menial tasks leading to a boss youve done 12 times. It's for retarded people. You already know the outcome of every run given that there's about 10 seeds in the game.
At least DS2 has some progression and varies more
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You forgot their entire library of abysmal dogshit games.
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>>722550397
I dont really care, something doesn't need to be the perfect most unblemished thing ever for it to be great.
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DS2 SotfS is superior to every other Dark Souls game.
It's only really topped by Demon's Souls
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>>722550397
All their games suck, because they just keep on releasing the same game over and over.
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>>722554838
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>>722554838
Right on, brother! That is the truth. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2 are the best Souls games. Dark Souls 1 was the most dogshit of the Souls series and only Redditor scumfucks enjoyed it. I loved Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and Sekiro.
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>>722550397
zoomers be like
>heckin Fromsoft poofed into existence in 2009
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>>722553649
It's the opposite. The games are so fucking similar that any slight deviance destroys the experience when compared to others.
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test
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>>722550536
It's okay when Nintendo does it
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>>722550397
Every AC game after Master of Arena was total ass, Kuon was a trash attempt at Survival Horror trend-chasing, Otogi were always bad knock-off DMC trend chasers, and their one-off titles were just bad in general.

The only reason Souls even exists is because Sony pushed it state-side.
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>>722558325
Yes, similar in formula but not in rule set which is a big difference
Poise is the perfect example
It works differently in all 3 souls titles to the point that they still dont know what the fuck to do with it considering it was functionally changed twice in elden ring
Poise allowed you to shrug off most attacks with a high value in 1, small weapons in 2 and basically nothing at all in 3 thanks to the way hyperarmor worked
Another great example is hit stun, ds1 gave you the capability to stun lock opponents, ds2 had a soft lock and ds3 gave you two hits max before whatever youre fighting recovers
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Shadow tower 1998 was the last game they put effort into and its an unquestionable masterpiece. The souls series is so phoned in its unbelievable.
Rehashed ideas
Online play that nobody but zoomers enjoy
Softcaps, nuff said
Cancerous unimmersive 3rd person camera, like all AAA slop. Unlike the kino wizardry series that all good games strive to be
No music except for shitty 1 note boss music giving the entire games a disjointed boss focus which doesn't mesh with the silent levels or their Online lobby aspect
And worst of all, rollspam
The further they get away from the ultimate game of all time, Shadow tower. The more we see how the slightest bit of mainstream success went to their heads and theyve only made soulless dogshit since.
I always ask myself when playing some modern Fromturd garbage, "Is this really better than replaying Shadow tower?" All too often the answer is FUCK NO
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>>722550627
In some ways, yes. In others absolutely not. Elden Ring has unparalleled exploration from any game ever made.
>reach altus
>find entrance into massive ruined capital
>hop down a random well
>sewer maze
>mohg
>fake wall
>jews
>fake wall
>deeproot depths
>coffin
>underground river ruins
>Nokstella
>elevator
>Lake of Rot
>coffin
>Astel
>Moonlight Plateau
>Marriage Proposal

A singular curious impulse to jump in an inconspicuous well sends you down an alice in wonderland rabbithole that seems to never end. No other game has an insane sequence like that.

The DLC kicks it up a whole other notch with how the entire map is dual layered and sometimes even triple layered. The verticality and design is a legitimate work of art. You are always able to look down or up at areas that you haven't discovered the way to access yet from any point on the map. That's fucking crazy. Elden Ring gets praised for all the wrong reasons and doesn't get nearly enough praise for what it does do exceptionally well.
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>>722559317
The DLC is horrendous dogshit. It should of stayed as pretty concept art. Half of sote is just nice looking empty fields
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>>722558462
Idk why Kuon is so friendly to the player. Youd think Fromsoft could make a nightmare of a esoteric survival horror game but no its a very safe game
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>>722559436
The dlc is GOAT unfortunately.
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>>722559436
bad taste and bad vocabulary
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>>722559317
The verticality is more of a kneecap than it is anything else
8 times out of 10 trying to find your way up sees you run across an entire section of the map, or even worse, access to where you want to be is somewhere completely unrelated to where you currently are
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>>722550397
nightreign is bad mostly because the people who play it are braindead subhumans.
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>>722559317
Eternal Ring with was better.
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>>722550397
This but replace DaS2 with Elden Slop
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>>722550397
I'm not FromSoftware so about the same as I felt prior to knowing this information.



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