What’s the better Silent Hill Game?
>>722553891Remake sucked nigger dick but silent hill feminism was terrible in it's own right
Not the one featuring the hentai game writer. The one where you use a flashlight because there are actual dark environments to explore.
>>722553891Remake. Anyone who says otherwise is a shit eater.
>>722553891The remake as shitty as it is at least takes place in silent hill and is arguably a horror game. Silent hill fromsoft is an unrelated IP in a different genre with the title Silent Hill
>>722553891Remake just on the basis on being a watered down version of an actual Silent Hill game
>>722553891The ones that don't play like soulslikes.
>>722555054Remake 2 plays like the last of us not a soulslike
2 remake is a straight downgrade from the original, which immediately makes it shit. All the extra stuff they added was fucking awful.f has a lot of problems but at least they tried to do something new
>>722555195What exactly did f "try and do new"? Is it the two enemy types? The most repetitive boss fights in the entire franchise history?
>>722555107Last of Us is a survival game and this is survival horror.
>>722555505I don't recall chopping down trees and building a house in TLOU
>>722555639The ability to sneak up on enemies from behind would be the core component between them which was never in the original SH 2.
>>722555054So both?
For all the newfags flooding in.
>>722553891We must be worse women.
Cutscenes in f are better, environments in f are better, music in f is betterWhat exactly did bloober team do better besides wearing the skin of a beloved game? f even gives its protagonist some flavor text when examining her surroundings sometimes unlike remake James who has pretty much none of that
>>722553891any SH game that wasn't made in the past 20 years.
>>722556523Origins wasn't THAT bad
>>722556564you are wrong.
The remake of 2 is the best Silent Hill game ever made. F is fine but it's more like DMC than Silent Hill.
>>722556580At least you can tell it's a Silent Hill game, not a very good one but still distinctly silent hill
>>722554683>silent hill fromsoftKek. Remake was fine outside of the weird character models and the increased focus on combat.
>>722556582>more like DMCYou can do air combos, switch between class types that you upgrade, shoot unlimited bullets from one of the several firearms you pick up, and taunt during combat? Must have missed that part.
The f stands for "fucking terrible"
>>722556634>but still distinctly silent hillit literally has nothing to do with SH. this is why people hate zoomers.
>>722556751In your case it stands for, faggot.
>>722556751Nah it stands for faggot and it’s based on you.
>>722556664The run time is too bloated, it becomes a slog in the 2nd half and the camera change ruins mutliple scenes >>722556706>>722556785Origins takes place in Silent hill, it looks like Silent Hill (from Temu), plays like Silent hill 1-3 except the shitty breakable weapons and (poorly) ties into the story of SH.
>>722556840>plays like Silent hill 1-3this is why people hate zoomers.
>>722556582>>722556719People who love silent hill 2 remake complaining about the enemies is baffling to meAn average playthrough of SH2R has you kill, like, 300+ enemies And it's nearly impossible to try to avoid themIn Silent Hill f you can viably run past themThere is one particular enemy type that does chase harder than the others though
>>722556751>>722556820>>722556834Silent Hill feminism
>>722553891neither of these games are silent hill though?the only real silent hill games are the first 3 ogs
>>722556751Be Better.
>>7225569214 is better than 3
>>722556902There's a sequence where you fight almost 40 enemies non-stop. Even Hinako bitches in-character.
>>722556967wrong, you dumb nigger
>>722556902Maybe you should actually play the games you're talking about.
>>722553891Obviously 2R despite it not living up to the original
>>722556878>fixed camera>explore town with option areas>collect items, solve puzzles>no blocks, no rolling no countersIt plays like SH 1-3 minus the tank controls which are optional in 2/3 anyways
>>722557074>fixed camerathe remake is a tps you retard
>>722556990I'm correct, 3 is an asset flip and half the game sucks. The mall, amusement park and church are the only good areas.
anyone answering 2R is a tasteless anti-art retard. F could be literal dogshit and it would be better because it would at least be a statement. Downpour is better than 2R. Remake culture is a horror beyond what any of these games have ever come up with and you are willing victims.
>>722557137I'm talking about origins you retard
>>722557189>>722557137
>>722556498>environments in f are betterThe hospital section in SH2 Remake is better than all of Silent Hill F
>>722557189my mistake, I am retarded.
>>722556498F barely has music aside from awful howling noises added purely to say "hey hey hey we are so nipponese u rike".
>>722553891>tfw two cakes
Did anyone else enjoy Homecoming and Downpour?
>>722557160this
>>722557637No, origins is the only game from that era that I somewhat enjoyed despite the stupid plot.
>>722553891F is whatever horror game you pick and label it as Silent hill
all sh2 remake adds is boring filler on top of a great existing gameits the lowest form of artistry
>>722557746I liked the fact you can enter a lot of the shops but the expanded "dungeons" were truly awful
>>722556912>>722554501NPCs
>>722557628>two cakesBut both are rotten and expired, and you'll feel sick for a week after eating them. But at least they looked nice from outside, right?
>>722557735And that's a good thing. Silent hill sucks ass
>>722557860Yeah zoomer coombrain like you can't really enjoy anything else
>>722557814seething kike
>>722557628
Silent Hill Faggot
>>722557919You can't even make a point without falling into buzzword salad, yet you're trying to say I'm a kid? Crazy stuff.
>>722557860Siren 1 and 2 are better at j-horror than fatal frame
>>722557728Why is downpour so forgotten?
>>722557605>Everything that plays in the shrine is fucking terrible>Look it up after playing>Wasn't by Yamaoka>Actually felt relieved
>>722558195Cause it was on a single console and it didn't even look or run well on that console.
>>722558195Because it's not good, it was intially unplayable. I'm not sure if it ever got patched. but even when it works properly, it has the worst enemy designs in the series, the worst music, terrible combat with breakable weapons, wasn't even remotely scary or unnerving, the otherworld was just chase segments and puzzles and finally a really stupid plot that at the time was just a retread of SH2's plot which everyone was very sick of at that point
>>722558195because it looks like shit, plays like shit, isn't scary and has nothing synonymous with Silent Hill other than the franchise name being used
>>722557983You and your boyfriend are gonna love it then.
Resident Evil 4 remake because I like shooting my horror enemies instead of melee them (yes i know Silent hill 2 remake has guns but ammo is uncommon or rare AF)
>>722558279It was on both 360 and PS3, if I recall the PS3 version was worse
>>722558416sounds familiar
>>722553891SHF is completely different game made by some completely studio. No wonder newfags are flocking over this one while the oldfags hate it. They should have renamed it something else.
>>722558917*different studio
Bottom because it isn't just some gay fanfiction of a real game.
>>722554683>Silent hill fromsoft This
>>722553891Remake obviously
Did you guys actually played past NG on SHf? Or did you watch it on youtube?
>>722558379One of the most baffling things in that game is that there is a button toss your weapons. I remember accidentally pressing it and throwing my weapon away on more than one occasion. It was completely absurd.I will give it credit in that the sidequests were kind of creative. They weren't amazing, but they were better than the main game imo. That game had quite a few creative and cool moments. However, that isn't nearly close enough to justify all its other mistakes.
>>722558917I don't know how to tell you this but Team Silent hasn't been a thing since SH4. The most involvement any of the old staff other than Yamaoka has was Masahiro Ito designing the monster for Silent Hill The Short Message. By any and all metrics Silent Hill can never truly be the same again. If Konami gives Bloober more creative liberties with SH1 it's going to be a trainwreck. Only thing left from the revival initiative not out yet was the smaller scale indie game and I guarantee there'll be people here complaining that isn't Silent Hill either. Silent Hill is either going to branch out or dwell in the past and so long as we don't enter Book of Memories territory I prefer experiments to remakes any fucking day
>>722559773bro, that's exactly what he said.
WE MUST BE BEASTLIER WOMEN
>>722558416How about homecoming
>>722560003Except my point is that Silent Hill f shouldn't be renamed just because it's not in Silent Hill. Silent Hills wasn't going to be in the literal town either but the reveal at the end of PT made everyone cream themselves rather than complain. Silent Hill is more than calling up Pyramid Head to step out of his Hollywood trailer so everyone can clap like seals. So I'm glad f is doing well and Konami's going to try more SH projects that aren't as orthodox because the alternative is a slow death as they just keep trying to remind people of the entries they liked
>>722560051NOOOO THIS IS NOT SILENT HILL BECAUSE JAMES SUNDERLAND DOESN'T TRANSFORM INTO A BEAST (even though Alessa and other characters turn into monsters)
>>722557951The NPC lashes out with buzzwords when faced with something it cannot comprehend
>>722558416I think thats Book of Memories lil nibbler.Downpour is soulful Eurojank.
>>722553891SH2 remake for all it's faults is at least an actual fucking silent hill game. F is feminist dark souls slop
>>722560306We both know you're trying to create a dishonest argument to excuse shit writing.
>>722560297Right.We had 4 great games all connected and they were really good. But after that we just got "remember those games? good times ha ha..."I'd rather the series just be dead. We got no Silent Hill games for 10 years and nothing changed in my life at all. But if we must get new games with this title I'd rather they not just be more memberberry garbage. I can play Silent Hill if want I play Silent Hill. I don't need to remember them by 2nd hand means.
>>722560481It isn't good writing like when Claudia's father transformed himself into a 10 foot tall zombie gimp.
>>722555054But what about the story? Did you rike it?
>>722553891Neither of these are silent hill.>>722554576>implying demakes are not for shit eaters
>>722560674Yes
One is a jap game and other is a chink game
Demake ain't no jap game
>>722560584>One of the weakest parts of a good game is a whataboutism to excuse the core plot developments in another gameGrim.
>>722561150>One of the weakest parts???What about it was bad, or at least worse than the rest of the game?
Well?
Silent Hill f would have been greatly improved if there was a shotgun.
>>722560674its a shame the story isnt just told fully in a single playthrough because its quite good, but the gameplay is so ass there is no way im playing multiple times.
>>722561364>Women start making themselves look like this with korean makeup and korean surgery>Birth rate plummets Really makes you think
Konami fans have autism
>>722554501How many playthroughs do I have to do before I get to see the feminism stuff anyway?I finished playthrough 1 and the UFO ending, so I only had the good, bad and true ending left.Am I going to see it in my next playthrough or do I have to finish that AND the true ending before I get to see it?
>>722553891Silent Hill 2R. How is this even a question? SHf is short as fuck and the 2nd half still feels like filler. I played Tormented Souls right after since it's free w/ Amazon Prime and it's a legit masterpiece compared to that turd. Had no idea they were even making a 2nd one but it's going to be sad how much it destroys a AAA game. Even Cronos New Dawn was way better than SHf.
>>722561364maybe stop sexualizing teenage girls?
>>722561406If it requires multiple full playthroughs to finish a basic plot, which every other entry (even the shit ones,) doesn't need to do it's not a good story.
>>722560051>>722560584the ritual scenes with Hinako were really well done but having your MC get a beast form power-up was really weird tonally.It would have worked better if you never got to play as her with the arm upgrade.
>>722561581>he doesn't know
>>722561364You know Hinako is gorgeous right?
>>722561515You unlock it by reading a gaming journalist's speculative pre-release musings on what the title may be about and never playing it yourself.
>>722561727These are supposed to be ugly? Give me the fat one>that hairlineOof
I will now play your game.
Sex with modded Hinako
>>722555639You're thinking of Survival Craft
>>722560051
>>722560486What’s with the 4 dickriding? Nobody liked Silent Hill 4. None of the core members of Team Silent worked on 4 bar Yamoaka. It didn’t take place in Silent Hill. Its second half is a repeat of the first half. The whole game is an escort mission with terrible AI. The main threat is an unkillable retard in a trenchcoat with a machine gun. The game has always sucked. There’s a reason it killed the franchise. Now you just have secondaries who’ve joined the series late thinking 4 is this overlooked masterpiece akin to Majoras Mask. It’s trash, it’s always been trash. It was a failed spin off that had the SH name bolted on and no one in Team Silent barring the sound and music guy even made it. Silent Hill died with 3. 4 is worse than f in every single aspect.
>>722561954They are not ugly, they are just Japanese women without makeup. I think most of them are cute. Hinako is just prettier than all of them but having her look like this >>722561364 just takes away from the realism and era
>>722553891Remake because it has ranged weapons
>>722553891Silent Hill f is better than the original Silent Hill 2
>>722561364>Chinese makeupFuck no, it looks like ass.Silent Hill f had fairly bad motion capture for faces during cutscenes and that suckes a lot, it's crazy that the character models in a PS2 game looked more natural, default Hinako would be a 9/10 if the model actually looked like the actress.
>>722564616That's literally her except without the washed out filter
>>722563692>no one in Team Silent barring the sound and music guy even made itTeam Silent split into two teams after SH2. One worked on SH3, the other on SH4. They also switched their positions to mix things up. For example the director of SH2 became the Art Director of 4.
>>722553891I don't know, I don't play remake and woke shit
>>722564498Said no one with a brain ever
>>722565505I just did, faggot
>>722566383Nta but you sound like you don't have a brain.
>>722565292Not only that, but also the original director and writer left after SH1 and the character designer left after SH2.I'd say those two were the most important dudes in the series.
>>722553891Neither of these are Silent Hill games. "Team Silent," hasn't existed for nearly twenty years at this point. In terms of tone, presentation, game play, and art direction they share nothing in common with the original trilogy.
>>722564616>default Hinako would be a 9/10 if the model actually looked like the actress.Not sure why they didn't just use this model instead desu
>>722568721Yeah it was so weird too because other characters say that she's super cute and I was like huh?
>>722566656>character designer left after SH2I prefer the character designs in SH3 and 4 tho.
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>>722554683>IT DOESN'T TAKE PLACE IN THIS TOWNFake criticism. Exposed yourself as a larper. You have never played a single SH game in your life. You are a third world pajeet.
>>722553891F
>>722553891silent hill f
>>722561406on next playthroughs you can skip the school section and the one where you get the fox arm since youll get it on your second otherworld visiton my fourth playthrou i was able to beat the game in just 3 hoursalso when you are holding the button down to skip a cutscene the game will specificly tell you if you are skipping a new cutscene meaning youll be able to skip all the ones you already seen without missing the new onessad that there isnt an ending for beating it on the highest difficulty thou but thats just me
>>722571179I like both. But the old character designer apparently also created the basic story for SH2 and had much involvement with how it was done too. So he didn't do just character designs for that one.He also made all the cgi cutscenes for SH1 singlehandedly.
>>7225538912>f>>>>>>>>Remake Slop
Siren
>>722572028>on next playthroughs you can skip the school section and the one where you get the fox arm since youll get it on your second otherworld visitNta, but it sucks that you can't skip all the other shitty "otherworld" sections.The true ending was also extremely disappointing and worse than the previous 2 endings. And what the fuck happenned to Shu and the others in that one.The UFO ending sucked too.
>>722554683>at least takes place in silent hillOf all the things shit on about SHF you pick the stupidest one. Way to out yourself as a newfag.
>Gets arm cut off for the beast arm>Gets face cut off the mask>True ending has Hinako 2 get her face back>But not her original arm back
>>722572508Marriage ending gave me goosebumps with the final cut, such a good horror game bad end.Shu ending was okay but the town being destroyed in a radio clip was way less harrowing. The endings are truly where the game becomes much more "when they cry" and a lot less silent hill.>>722564882The in-game stiff facial movements makes her look like a hag, I can't explain it. There's details that just feel incorrect on all of the 3D models faces versus their real life counterparts
>>722553891Ryukishi is a genius.
Is SHf just Yukiko's story from Persona 4 but worse? Even Yukiko spent some time learning how to be independant in case she decided to move out of the house and saved up some money.
>>722561364>shaved chin
>>722572360He's at a better place now...working on Mario games.
>>722563880they are ugly actuallyI'm japanese but, those and Hinako are bottom 30%why anyone wanna see 3/10 face protagonist in their game?you dumb ugly leftist
>>722572823another one... More geniuses...
>>722571619Someone's grumpy.
>>722572948>Yukiko, a pretty girly girl who doesn't want to follow the family business>Hinako, a tomboy who is being sold into marriageNot anything like Yukikos story, even slightly. Were you even paying attention?
>>722573181Fuck off larper
Her good ending? Any JAV with a girl that looks similar to her.
>>722556981What sequence is that? I don't remember fighting anything close to that and I've done 4 endings.
just here to remind you to read ryukishis peak story rose guns days
>>722561364Horrendous.
>>7225716193 occurs due to demon god Heather is pregnant with. 4 occurs due to the ritual Walter is Preforming. The games that came after do not matter.
>>722561727>Facecan Realismslop>GorgeousHaha
>>722560486>But after that we just got "remember those games? good times ha ha..."No, it was "remember Silent hill 2?" Sometimes it was "remember silent hill 1? Look we added silent hill 2 to it!">>722563692Lots of people liked SH4, it was just more divisive because it tried mixing up the formula to varying degrees of success. But everything you're complaining about could easily apply to SH fromsoft, but to a much greater degree. Silent hill 4 is at least in the same genre as the prior 3 games. F is just some trash soulslike kornami slapped the Silent Hill title on, it's not even a horror game
I hate f's soulslop combat but it's infinitely better than the Demake by default
The further I get into F the less I like it, the game initially makes a decent impression but I wonder how much of that is the japanese language/asian setting contributing to make it feel more sophisticated and alien than it actually is to a westernerI'm imagining the areas, enemies and story beats in english and it just reminds me of a mixture of dogshit like downpour and alan wake with a shitty combat system on top, the otherworld segments are particularly uninspired and boring and in general the game has tons of modern artistically illiterate slop-pities like its infinite huds, prompts, journal entries and upgrade systems that shouldnt be anywhere near a silent hill game. The story and characters are the one thing I don't necessarily have anything bad to say about but thats it
>>722553891neither
>>722553891SH2Remake had too much fighting so the pacing was a bit off. Also some of the subtlety was gone in cutscenes and scares. Overall it was Silent Hill Origins tier, an ok game if all you want is explore Silent Hill again. 7/10.Silent Hill f is not a Silent Hill game. Its a linear 3rd person combat game with cool looking monsters and retarded anime plot. Just stop thinking of it as a Silent Hill game and it will be 6/10 when you pick it up from Steam sale for 20 bucks in the future.
SH2 had stretches that were kinda bad or at least lull-inducing. I dread the prison on every playthrough.I can't say the same about SHf, where I enjoyed it throughout the entire first playthrough.So far SH2s story ekes out over f, but I will have to do more playthroughs and ruminate on the full lore/plot for a while to decide which one I like more. I also like how the side characters are weaved into the protags narrative. In SH2, the other characters don't really matter to James all that much directly (which can be its own charm, knowing that you're not the only one going through Silent Hills nightmare)
>>722553891Both are dogshit for retards
>>722577794>I can't say the same about SHf, where I enjoyed it throughout the entire first playthrough.I was bored as fuck in SHf final 75% stretch. You fight the same 5 enemies the entire game and it gets so fucking boring.
>>722578164>You fight the same 5 enemies the entire gameAs opposed to every other SH game?
>two retards fighting
>>722578583List of enemies in SH1:PterodactylsDogsGrey kidsRoachesGropersNursesDoctorsBig PterodactylsWormhead dogsSewer monstersShadow children.
>>722553891Silent Hill F is a massive success.
>>722578164It's the frantic climax and since Hinako is a stronger protag, it makes sense that they send an army after you. But I'm gonna be real honest, if I had to factor in gameplay/combat in my judgement of Silent Hill games, none of them would pass a 7/10, which I think is a disservice to what the games aim for.Imo the combat got annoying right when the game ends, so I think they straddled the line.
>>722579808>if I had to factor in gameplay/combat in my judgement of Silent Hill games, none of them would pass a 7/10, which I think is a disservice to what the games aim for.>Imo the combat got annoying right when the game ends, so I think they straddled the line.Thats why its such a misstep to concentrate so much on the combat in SHf. Combat should never be the primary focus on a survival horror game.
>>722579904>Combat should never be the primary focus on a survival horror game.And I'd argue it wasnt. To be fair, my perception might be muddled because I slow-walked everywhere so there was more space between combat encounters. Its linearity also leads to less exploring between encounters, that is true. But the enemies were just minor inconveniences that die quickly (except for the fat fuck preggo whale).There was only one time I was genuinely annoyed with combat frequency and that was during the very first Dark Shrine visit where the enemies reanimated while I was figuring out the puzzle. Other than that, I *feel* like it was an adequate frequency.Of course I can understand that it's more of a principle thing, especially when it comes to SH, so if some wanted a more "point and click" style adventure, I can see that.Call it bias, call me "not real SH fan", but that was my experience with the game.
>>722553891which one will make me a better man?
>>722579684kek
>>722553891They're both 9/10 games. We're living in the renaissance of Silent Hill.
Top is just a remake by a subpar studio of game that never needed a remake in the first place.Bottom is just another rollslop + feminist propaganda. There are thousands of these released every year. Ok, we get it. Men bad, women good, be a whore, don't marry or have children, do a 9-month abortion if you feel like it, a woman can play basketball as good as MJ, actually Shakespeare, Newton, etc. were pseudonyms for women, women can't tell lies so any sexual accusation should put any men in jail without need of further evidence, men dying in Ukraine while their women are cucking them around the world is fine, etc. I get the average reddit/gcj not ever getting tired of this kind of propaganda but i expected the average Joe would eventually get tired of them.
Incels preaching about natalism and marriage will never not be funny.
>>722583320>rollslopYou people who don't play these games should have no voice.
>>722584081Fuck Born from a Wish GIVE ME THE SH4 REMAKE ALREADY THAT GAME IS DONKEY BALLS TO PLAY.
>>722584081God I love ronunununu
