How's the Dishonored DLC compare to the game?
>>722555972The 2 main DLCs are great, some reuse areas and put a different spin on them but its more dishonored with different powers, the challenge mode DLC is meh If you like challenge mode shit you might like it but I personally dont.
It's the same as the main game except you play as Daud and have some different weapons and powers.
>>722555972It's pretty good, I usually play it over replaying the base game
>>722555972great
>>722555972Knife of Dunwall > Dishonored 1 > Brigmore Witches > Dunwall City Trials > piss > shit > > > > > Dishonored 2
>>722556940wanna know what i really miss from he original in 2?travelling by fucking rooftops
>>722557003It's baffling how much of a fuckup that game was. And it wasn't even Anita's fault, for once, despite her forcing a femprotag into the game out of nowhere. The game is just a completely disconnected pile of shit.
>>722557082the ability to have your powers do more than one thing was goodmore combat options were goodgraphics are literally who fucking careseverything else was shit
>>722556940don't forget deathloop which is canonically part of the dishonored universe :^)
>no fun allowed: the game
>>722558109kill yourself
>>722558213Can't have a Dishonored thread without at least one mouthbreather complaining about the "bad ending". Oh no, the 10-second slideshow at the end said negative rather than positive things, this 12-hour game is now ruined.
>>722558424i wasn't responding to himbut i would have said the same thing
>>722558213take it up with Arkane for that decision, not me
>>722557082>And it wasn't even Anita's faultNo, but the Anita influence can certainly be seen. You walk down the street in this pseudo-Victorian setting and outside the pub there's a woman miner wearing a flatcap and trousers, her one hand holding a pipe and the other leaning a pickaxe over her shoulder. This would be less objectionable if the first game had showed the fictive setting as one with conventions of gender markedly different from those in our own history, but because we only see this difference expressed in the sequel, we understand that it's there on Anita's suggestion, and this annoying reminder of real-world political causes tends to break our immersion in the fantasy simulation that Dishonored 2 aims to be.
whats even wrong with dishonored 2 it wasnt that bad I found it alright
>>722555972They nerfed the best ability in the game so Idk a 7
>>722555972The ending "fight" is just the ending of Thief 1.
>>722559982Do you mean Dark Vision? Because Daud's is just as strong. His blink is outright superior to Corvo's
>>722559929Nothing, it's a great game. It's just the usual whining about minor things.
>>722555972Honestly? I liked it better. I think cause the Chaos system actually worked perfectly for me in the DLCs whereas I found it kinda didn't work too well in the base game. I started off role-playing as Daud and being a murder-hoboing psycho but about halfway through I started feeling a bit of actual remorse and started sparing people and I ended up getting the good ending even though I'd murdered half of Dunwall in the first DLC. I thought it was great.Plus having Blink stop time when you're not moving is such an objective improvement it just makes the entire game better. It's such a little change too and I'm so glad it returned as an upgrade in Dishonored 2
>>722561509I don't you could make a DLC like or as good as Daud's today. Even the concept is beyond most modern devs.
>>722562151It was SO high quality. Like legit both DLCs together could've been their own game. Yeah, I really liked it. And frankly I think the overall narrative's the best in the series (the first game has a fantastic premise, world and lore but the actual storytelling kinda falls a bit flat - and it's not just me I'm pretty sure even fans agree it just doesn't quite hit the heights it could)
>>722563089there needed to be more things to do around the pub to make the betrayal hit harderas it is, the high chaos route is by far more fitting and impactful with how bloodthirsty emily becomes and samuel being disgusted by you
>>722555972Duad is much better than Corvo. I wish he were the main character.
>>722559289>this annoying reminder of real-world political causes tends to break our immersion in the fantasy simulationI think that only happens if you already obsess about these things. Like you gotta be woke but on the other end of the horseshoe.
>>722563395Yeah. I'll confess I also got filtered by the chaos system the time around (look I swear it's just because of the constant reminders about it on the loading screens) and did a mostly non-lethal ghost(ish) low chaos run the first time around. Kinda wish I hadn't - high chaos isn't even a bad ending, if anything the high chaos version of the last level's way more exciting and fitting.I'm totally admitting it was mostly my fault for getting filtered though - the constant reminders about the system on the loading screens are a bit overbearing though and I get why it does filter people.
>>722566463When I first played it, I was fine with it. After all, I was a super powered demigod. I could've just killed my targets. I wanted to kill everyone
>>722565520kill yourself
>>722558109I enjoyed Deathloop
>>722563395>>722566463I've been thinking of playing this game, are you saying murderhobo is the way to go? I thought it was meant to be a stealth game.If actually putting in effort to do things clean doesn't give you the best narrative that kinda sucks, going guns blazing in stealthy games always feels so cheap even when the game explicitly lets you do it. Every single other game out there lets you run around mass-killing enemies, where's the fun in that when this game in particular happens to have ways to tactically plan your course to perfectly avoid detection?
They were preddy okay. Dishonored 2 pretty much shamelessly copypasted the Witch plotline in between making The Outsider lame.>somehow, that bitch escaped her painting that she got trapped in only to get trapped inside her own painting AGAIN
>>722567215NTA. Having played it both ways, the only problem I find in murderhoboism is that it makes the game too easy. Corvo is practically a demi-god. An unrestrained player using all powers and weapons will fuck every up, no problem.
>>722567215The game wants you to use some stealth, but if you fuck up and get caught they give you the tools to play it out violently. Aggroing everyone for a shoot out is kinda difficult as you have limited ammo and not a whole lot of health.Going low chaos gives you the "nice" ending.
>>722555972I think all Dishonored games and DLCs (not city trials) are great, and I'm tired of pretending they're not (I never pretended).
>>722567839Yeah that's the thing I don't like.It'd be too easy even if you weren't a god, but playing a shooter is simply not hard. Since it's not balanced around being an engaging and challenging shooter it makes it even worse.>>722567861>if you fuck up the game gives you a get out of jail free card so you cannot possibly lose or fail even if you suckYeah and it feels cheap as shit, why even put effort into it if when you fuck up there's no consequence to your mission success whatsoever?Plus it feels beyond unimmersive, you're a fugitive and an extremely wanted one at that. If you start going guns blazing and murderhoboing guards, it really feels weird as fuck that you only need to fight the limited amount spawned as part of the mission and you're free to just walk away back to your hideout safe and sound afterwards.
>>722567215I'd say stealth assassin is the way to go in Dishonored NOT murderhobo. As in you try to kill tons of people and use your powers from the shadows. That's the fun way to play IMO. But that's the cool thing about Dishonored - if you want to play it clean and ghost everything you TOTALLY can. And if you wanna go murder hobo you can totally do that too (although you should probably get some upgrades and powers first.)The only real issue is that the game (mostly in loading screens) stresses that actions have consequences and that you'll get a darker ending the more people you kill and chaos you cause (hence why it's called the Chaos system.) Turns out that's way over-exaggerated and if you do go high chaos the ending you get isn't THAT much darker or even really a bad ending at all. It's just a bit different that's all (and better if you ask me.)The other issue is that the game can be kinda easy too once you've gotten a few powers but hey, what can you do? Also if you want a great ghosting game I'd far moreso recommend the old Thief games (mainly Thief: The Dark Project and 2) which inspired Dishonored but are WAY more fully stealth focused (if you can stomach the graphics that is because those games are from 1998 and look like it.)
Hmrmrmm... Stupid goddamit....
>>722566684You literally described a microaggression dogwhistle. You are in fact woke.
>>722567215Dishonored is extremely replayable, my recommendation is just to play how you want, and then do a second run doing the opposite of what you did the first time. You will find new stuff you missed no matter how thorough you thought you were each time, it's great.I agree with the other anons though on one thing, high chaos final level is cooler than the low chaos level, vidrel.>>722555972The Knife of Dunwall was clearly made by some sort of B-team within Arkane, it is not as good as the original game. The Brigmore Witches is better than KoD and it seems like they put more effort into its design. Both DLCs have a "very hard" difficulty I forgot the name of that's much more brutal than Dishonored's max difficulty, which I think balances the game appropriately considering how goddamn overpowered you are.Dishonored's core gameplay loop is so good that it's kind of hard to mess it up regardless, so both of the story DLCs are overall a fun playthrough. If you enjoyed the base game and want more they are both worth it. You can skip that other DLC with all the minigames.
>>722569098killyourself
Daud is more fun to control than Corvo, but by the gods, it introduced a pair of insufferable cunts that ruined the second game too.
>>722570270blame anita
>>722570104You sound triggered
Daud confuses me as a character.>murder so many people you catch the outsider's attention>kill EVEN MORE when you get magic>eventually cause too much death>DA OUTSIDER MADE ME A MONSTERHe would have gladly killed the Empress even without his powers, he's just a big baby that refuses to take responsibility.
>>722571203The Empress was different.
>>722571203>Daud confuses me>proceeds to understand DaudMaybe the guy killing people isn't the most morally sound and objective person to gauge his situation
>>722565520Not him but not really. I noticed it and I was lefty back then, and only became in tune with culture wars bullshit later. In fact this game was part of what made me aware of that as a phenomenon. It sticks out like a sore thumb if you played the first game. There's too much dumb shit that is incongruous with the setting established in the Dishonored base game. Female elite guards chewing out dumb male generic guards in the first mission, edited game files that carry over from the first game but just remove male pronouns, random interracial romance moments etc. The game isn't especially woke relative to how retarded things got later but the influence is still there. Admittedly it started in the Dishonored 1 DLC but they went harder in Dishonored 2.The problem is retards not understanding that portraying something isn't the same as advocacy of it. Anita seething about women being prozzies and servants in the first game missed the point. The first game isn't saying that's how the world should be, it's a soft dystopia setting in which it makes perfect sense that women would be somewhat subdued overall. It takes something away from that when real world politics influence what you can depict in game settings, like the whole Peaky Blinders meme of hardened criminal thugs drawing the line at racism.
exactly. Daud was a prokiller. His assassinations were altering destiny on a wide enough scale that he caught The Outsider's attention, and he got branded as someone who is shaping the age. He proceeded to kill even more using his magic powers but pretended DA OUTSIDER made him do it! It was almost like an Arkane writer was poking fun at the players who decided to play through the campaign as a murderhobo and then cried Arkane gave them the BAD ENDING for using all their murderpowers.
>>722571203blame the writers for that last bithe very well understands it's all his own fault in the original game
>>722556940I hold very similar opinion. Fuck Dishonored 2.
Brigmore witches was peak. The last level in it with the witch mansion had such a great eerie feeling to it as you started from the outside then slowly found yourself sneaking in.
>>722573480Those bitches deserved to be raped, tortured to death, and corpse raped.
>>7225569402 is perfectly fine, it's DotO that's dogshit. They literally cut out a stealth playthrough because who knows why. Trans designer wasn't into it.
>>722557185>more combat options were goodNo they were not>>722559929>worse setting>worse writing>worse music>worse level design>kills the setting
>>722574367yes they were
>>722555972The original is better
>>722574631>homogenizing choices GOODNo
>>722571203>DA OUTSIDER MADE ME A MONSTERHe says this in the DLCs? I only remember him calling the Outsider a black-eyed bastard and speculating that he knew everything he would do. But it didn't seem like he was blaming him so much as expressing frustration at him enjoying everyone's suffering like an entertainment show. Doesn't he say at the end something like "I killed an Empress and rescued her daughter, I made my choices, I'm ready to face the consequences" (paraphrasing) or some kind of responsibility-acknowledging thing like this?
>>722570270Lizzy Stride would have been a more entertaining boatman for D2 than Billie
>>722573890>the witch who pretended to be hurt and needed help>Daud just shoving his knife trough her forearm and twisting it around Fuck the witches and the dyke delilah
>>722570270Her original VA at least was fairly good. Fucking ruined by Rosario Dawson in D2
>>722575109No, he doesn't. Daud is completely coherent and well written character... in the DLCs. Then Death of the Outsider happened, and shat all over his character arc from the past.
>>722570270KoD Billie was fine. Delilah was a 'meh' antagonist but again, for a DLC villain she was fine. Both characters suffered from being reintroduced, they were both made worse for it.
>>722575505Ohhh fair enough. I didn't play that one so I wasn't aware he was in it. I heard it sucked though
>>722575626I like Delilah in both appearances but mostly because she had femdom energy. Also I like how she's a blatant unrepentant bullshitter and manipulator. Basically like the Joker of the Dishonored universe.
>>722568661>As in you try to kill tons of people and use your powers from the shadows.Interesting, that might be more fun than going full shooter slasher. Though killing guards to clear the way is still less interesting than bypassing them.>ThiefIndeed, that's on my to-play list as well, thanks for reminding me anon. Dishonoured has a cool setting and lore and atmosphere though so I definitely want to play both.>>722569374>my recommendation is just to play how you want, and then do a second run doing the opposite of what you did the first time.Yeah I'm probably overthinking it, you're right
>>722575413They deserved fates worse than death>>722575453they ruined her autism
>>722575719She comes across like a delusional baker's apprentince in 1 that used the chaos of the base game to try and gain power. Good enough. In 2 she's a retarded wine aunt that rules for 2 months and somehow manages to plunge the entire world into chaos faster than Burrows did. Like her whole plot is "woe is me, *I* should've been Empress!" but then the second she's on the throne she just burns everything to the ground, so it makes her come across like a petulant bitch
>>722555972Brigmore Witches + Knife of Dunwal is the best part of the entire feanchise.
>>722573480All of the witch-focused levels were good shit. Brigmore Manor, the Royal Conservatory and the Return to Dunwall. They do a lot of heavy lifting for the atmosphere of the games.
>>722575876I don't even believe her backstory in 2, I think she's just a pathological liar who is delusional and power hungry.
>>722575876The fucking Outsider going on about how clever she is when she's the most incompetent ruler we've seen in the setting is ridiculous beyond belief. The writers were in love with their retarded donut steel. >>722576026It makes absolutely no sense for Delilah to be a Kaldwin and it comes from absolutely fucking nowhere
>>722575637If you like Daud or the Outsider at all, it's not only bad it's gonna actively piss you off. It gets worse in the novels. Like, much worse.
>>722575794Oh yeah, look I'd highly recommend Dishonored (both games actually - I know some people are down on 2 but I think it's mostly better gameplay-wise even if the plot's a bit of a downgrade) but it sounds to me like the game you're really looking for is Thief (that's Thief 1 and 2 - Deadly Shadows aka Thief 3 is good too but a downgrade, don't even bother with the 2014 reboot it's genuinely quite bad.) From what you're saying I'd play Thief 1/2 first if I were you.Dishonored's fucking great though - it's so fun to replay with different powers and trying different routes. You can have a lot of fun just fucking around with the mechanics in Dishonored
>>722576520nothing can beat the fully upgraded pistol of the first gamethe blicky calls to me
>>722576520>From what you're saying I'd play Thief 1/2 first if I were you.Yeah why not, alright I'll do that then
What do you guys think of Deathloop?
This will forever be my favourite Dishonored moment.
>>722576841Eh, it was fine. But only really worth a single playthrough. Cole and Julianna's banter was amusing. Cool soundtrack.
>>722576661Ooh okay. Just quickly you want the TFix LITE patch. Don't install the full version TFix. Look it's an old game that requires fan patches to even run but the most commonly available version of it (TFix) has a bunch of changes that the guy who made it insists improve the game that you can't change or get rid of - EVEN if you uncheck all the optional shit when you're installing it it'll still make some changes to the AI and textures. It's infuriating but luckily TFix Lite is available on the same page and just patches the game to run properly without any of the changes (same shit applies to Thief 2 as well with T2Fix Lite but honestly the changes in full T2Fix are WAY less egregious.)Also be warned Thief 1 is like half stealth against human enemies, half supernatural horror game whereas Thief 2 is almost entirely heist missions against human (and steampunk robot) foes. Some people HATE the horror/supernatural elements and end up dropping the game cause of it - personally I love that shit (and you can sneak past the supernatural creatures - it's a slightly different kind of stealth but it's still possible) but if that happens to you you can just skip to Thief 2 if you JUST want heist missions.Also the only version available of Thief: The Dark Project these days is Thief: Gold which adds 3 new missions and a handful of changes to existing missions. The first of these missions, Thieves Guild, is fucking awful so if you find yourself hating that one level don't worry - literally everyone else does as well (pic related)I think that's everything - I really like Thief in case you can't tell
>>722577132>Some people HATE the horror/supernatural elementsMy nigger the discussion started with me wanting to play Dishonored, I don't think I'd be here if I hated that>TFix LiteGotcha, thanks anon!
I'm playing through death of the outsider for the first time and the fact that the teleport has a shorter range than the geists placed marker feels so arbitrary and just leads to much slower movement through levels. The ability to disguise is pretty cool though and there's a lot of ways to case a floor and plan your routes now, however it feels as though it has been designed with that in mind. Face checking any unexplored area is now completely retarded and a great way to get 1 shot on the harder difficulties where inspite of your character being a hardened assassin, completely flounders in direct combat with more than one enemy. Apparently the princess is a better fighter than most the hardened assassination force of the kingdom.
I really hated the low-chaos means of dealing with delilah in 2.>Genius dickhead who was torturing Sokolov? >Turn his machine against him, fry his brain and turn him into a literal retard>Core of the conspiracy, froze your daughter/father, got who knows how many people killed, and brought the empire to near-ruin, alongside the shit in the first game where she basically tried to steal the soul of a child and skinwalk in her place?>Put her in her perfect paradise where she'll be happy foreverThat was one of the lamest, weakest, most cowardly things I've seen in a game.
Brigmore Bitches
>>722555972I've tried to play them a bunch but get boredits exactly the same as the normal game but you don't have the story so its ehknife of dunwall might be a little bit harder that's about it Dishonored 2 is greatIt doesn't have the overall impression of 1 in terms of setting up a really interesting universe, but the level design is a billion times better than 1 and the mechanics are generally better, the story is not as good of course but those levels....holy fuck
>>722555972that game was the shittiest fucking game out of the 2012.i believe most fps adventure games are shit hipster steampunk slop.
anyone have any coombait of Delilah?
>722578819 (You)
>>722578959
>>722580271Sucks there's barely any porn for this game. The few that exists suck ass. I'd have loved to see Delilah femdom or Duad dicking witches down.
>>722555972this and brigmore witches is great. the challenge one is hit and miss
>>722580271weakCorvos dingdong that tiny?
