Poorfags are once again holding gaming back by not buying SSDs.
Console master race
>>722558427Can't they just make it an SSD only game? Think about all the 3rd worlders it would filter
>>722558707Entirely disabling the product you've already sold to approximately 12% of your customers who already bought a copy, just to make the remainder a little happier, doesn't seem like a wise decision.
>>722558427Games have been recommending or out right requiring a SSD for 5 years plus now. The hell are they on about a solution for storage size and how does this fix long standing bugs/crashes?
>>722558427The problem isn't poorfags.This is just sw*de cope to divert responsibility and act as if they aren't incompetent.
>>722558830but enough about steam shutting support for windows xp 7 and now 10
>>722559000Windows 7 didn't make up even 1% of Steam users by the time of the support's discontinuation. Also Windows 10 is being actively killed by Microsoft themselves, not Steam.
>>722558427>the files are bigger because it takes bigger time to read them on a HDDnow im not even going to explain why that is retarded im just going to call you a massive retard and be on my way. retard,
>>722558427Good.You will all be held to lower standards thanks to me.I am the wall the developers must scale to be allowed to release their bloatware on our systems.My ancient Seagate 500GB hard drive will outlast you AND the devs.
>>722558427I used to work in a computer repair shopa fucking enormous amount of customers coming in were boomers with ancient, failing HDDs wanting their slow computers fixed and it just entailed cloning their shit onto an SSDthat was 6 years ago, who the fuck is still using an HDD? there isn't even a gigantic price gap and the storage capacity is the same
>>722559362Doesnt that just mean they need to be somewhat less compressed for the drive to read them in an adequate time so that they can be used.Its not a single player game where they could compress it to fuck and let loading be longer.This game is procedural generated too so the files need to be access faster and a HDD will be slower.
I bought an SSD and I don't like it. It doesn't make funny crackling sounds under heavy load.
>>722559530>the storage capacity is the sameNot at the same price. HDDs have way cheaper GBs. With that said, I doubt anyone is still using them for gaming.
>>722558427"We need 3x the space so things can be read faster"Meanwhile, I'll scroll the through the armors while in my ship inventory and they STILL take time to load the goddamn static preview images while on a SSD. Something is not adding up.
just admit that your platform is obsolete PCfags, its Sony from here on out
>>722559829>Something is not adding up.Well yeah it's just swedish devs lying about their incompetence.
>>722559791hence why I said>there isn't even a gigantic price gapWho the fuck is playing Helldivers 2 while refusing to shell out an extra $50 for an SSD?
>>722558830>gut the entire fucking vidya industry to appeal to trannies and faggots who don't play vidya>but we won't make this game SSD only because percentages or somethingok chief
>>722558830It's 2025, time to buy an SSD poorfag.
>>722559829>goddamn static preview imagesThat's because they're actually 3D models.
>>722558830potato PC only lobbies for your kind, you have to wait for gregor running on his imac from 1997 to load
>>722560112If so, that's laughable. I don't understand why this is a thing in the industry these days.
>>722559708>durr magic small files take longer to readsLook, kid, go to school and dont post until you graduate. The cpu does the work on decoding files, not the HDD/SSD. Your piece of shit 2500k still wont play the game faster than a slide show. You wont notice any game play difference between HDD and SSD beyond one taking 2 mins to boot up and the other taking 20 seconds. Period. Not a discussion. All that shit data in stored in your RAM dumbo.
>>722558427>there are no easy solutions...literally just make the high res textures an optional install...and suddenly the game doesnt need more than 30gigabytes of storage.>>722559938>Well yeah it's just swedish devs lying about their incompetence.i wouldnt be surprised if game publishers have a contract with nvidia that forces them to include high resolution textures in the base install of the game.
>>722558427>Poorfags It's not the devs being subhuman pieces of shitStfu nigger and stop blaming the wrong people, they don't even own or play crash/bugdivers
>>722560325>go to school>>722560325>The cpu does the work on decoding files, not the HDD/SSDOhh so I guess read and write speeds of a disk drive means nothing because a fucking retard on a senagalise zebra painting toilet roll said soFucking KYS you branless mogoloid homunculus
>>722558830>Remainder Remaining you subhuman nigger brown piece of shit, fucking kill yourself
>>722558427>HDDs are slower and struggle to read data>that's why we made the game have more datahow does that make any sense
>>722558837It's just a cheap excuse No one gives a shit about HDDs, they are just incompetent trash and they found and extremely convenient excuse
>>722559829I have a high end pc and let me tell you anon, after the update the game was literally unplayable, literally poorfags could play I was unable That's for you subhuman nigger swedes
>>722558427>>722558830Last I checked even the poorest 3rd world type has a SSD 2.5 at the very least. They are inexpensive and easy to put together.
>>722560546yeah, they could offer separate install packages based on storage device and hardware. they just dont want to do the work.
>>722558427Dude I almost thought this was a brap shitpost
>>722558427Most developers aren't even taking full advantage of the read speeds of NVMEs, and you can bet your asses that they're not. I think maybe some of Sony's more optimised games for their own console like Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman takes proper advantage of those higher read speeds. That being said the game runs like shit because the developers are still incompetent, they can't explain that one way away other than their incompetency so they'll just keep making excuses. I'd hate to use the example of Star Citizen but that game really show cases the difference between an SSD and HDD. As in it takes full advantage of the speeds. Even on NVME Helldivers 2 is slow as shit and not optimised like it should be.3x storage space just means they're shit at actual storage optimisation by the way.>>722558830>Entirely disabling the product The fuck are you talking about? you don't even know how this shit works to think you can just 'disable a product'. All you need to say is that it's not supported, therefore it's going to load into games longer and it may effect the framerate because of being unable to load things in quick enough/via player radius.
Optimization died not because modern developers are shit, but because the nerdy white guys that retired from the industry did so without passing down their knowledge or taking on apprentices.
>>722560784>>722560837>their incompetency>without passing down their knowledgelol no, its a hard business and task priority decision. optimization takes up time that you need more urgently for the actual game. there is usually little time for it pre-release and afterwards its not worth it anymore, because you already made most of your money in the first month and the additional 10% in sales you get from thirdies with toasters isnt worth the effort.
More like some "skilled" devs got fired for not liking trannies in the workplace.
>>722559254>1% of Steam survey runners*but that was after they accidentally rolled out a version that was already partly incompatible with win7 and gave them 1 year notice before officially dropping support (i.e. before they would risk fucking things up even more)they also say that china is only 30% of steam users but accidentally leaked 50% several times.their GPU stat also continues to say that 27% of users have a DX12 GPU but don't have DX12 (Win 10/11). how is that possible when Win 10/11 is 95% of users?their survey is clearly omitting or cooking the numbers and until they release the raw data for independent verification it's not reliable.
>>722561385the real data ia probably sold for hard cash
>>722558427Console GODS, in our benevolence, we must forgive the PC peasants for their inferiority.
>>722560837It's systemic. Their skills can be used in better paying jobs and the industry actively tries to push them out once they get what they need from them.
>>722560325As someone who enjoys vidya. I can't even fathom how wrong you are. It obviously depends how you coded your game, but every time a game tries to load something new, literally any asset, the bottleneck becomes the HDD. I had older games improve in framerate stability just by moving them from a HDD to an SDD and every time I play TW:WH I get reminded why the fastest SSD possible if a necessity in modern gaming, because the devs can't code for shit, and literally every screen transition is a load that can take minutes on a HDD. Also most modern vidya I am fairly certain tries to stream data in real time instead of a single large chunk at boot up. So if you have a shit HDD or a slow SDD you will experience stutter.
>>722561295>"skilled" devsdo not work in game development.
>>722558830Have they tried not being poor? I would unironically pay for $80 multiplayer games if it meant I never had to have a slavshit or chink or spic in my lobby
>>722560837>without passing down their knowledge>or taking on apprenticesYou are not seeing the forest for the trees. Those old guys were passionate about programming. They wanted to push the technology to its limits and because of that the onus was on them to really understand the technology. They did pass on what they learned, but that means that the new generation did not need to understand everything. And with the constant expansion of what is possible, more hardware than ever, eventually old tricks just don't cut it anymore. And now you have generations without in depth knowledge of the new systems.And if anyone dares to step over the line and actually educate themselves, they get sniped out of the vidya industry, and gobbled up by finance or military.
>>722558427HDD still have their uses. They are in this situation because the devs were greedy and wanted the lowest minimum specs for the widest audience. They could have just chose to require minimum SSD from the start.
