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>>722563110Normal mental gymnastics>you made this, so it's up to you when I want to sell PCtroons>actually I should and deserve to have everything ever, it's not stealing I'm just copying files and it's not a massively bad crime anyway and it's not first hand legally available to me but if it was it would have some excuse to pirate it and
>>722563387I own the product I buy and therefore it is my decision whether yo share it with others.
>>722563387>actually I should and deserve to have everything everthis but unironically. you can either ride the wave, give people what they want and make a nice profit or they will simply take it for themselves and you will get nothing
>>722563614Just don't mass distribute with intent to profit and you'll be fine.
>>722563110Ummm, you're supposed to just wait and hope that the obscure titles with defunct publishers eventually get re-released by Nintendo as part of some $70 bundle or subscription service? Why are you downloading them for free?!
>>722563110>Introducing GameCube to Nintendo Switch Online!NO, NOT LIKE THAAATPirates don't have any moral or legal ground to stand upon.
>>722563110Piracy is a service problem.Any good product with good service, a good track record and a good service model will only benefit from piracy due to increased confidence in the product and increased word of mouth.Whining about piracy is a sign of an incompetent or failing company, because the negative impact of piracy is completely unfalsifiable and requires no significant action from the failing company itself other being more hostile towards its users.This is why you mostly see whining coming from publishing, an industry that is almost entirely propped up by government overreach and international regulation that mostly just steals from others and rapidly burns through the material that they can use for their own publishing, while simultaneously starving themselves of new material due to the legislation that gives them exclusivity.
>>722563110Download all the fucking roms you want, what the fuck do I care?
I don't understand why anyone would WANT to be anti-piracy. What do you stand to gain from going against pirates if you aren't a shareholder in a company? There's nothing more Reddit than defending le hecking million-dollar companies' honor because some spergs are sharing roms of games you probably can't even legally purchase. It'd be one thing if Nintendo were selling their games digitally like they used to through Virtual Console, or if pirates were selling dumped roms, but they're locking their catalog of games behind a subscription service, and these games are so freely distributed that you'd be an utter retard to pay money for a digital dump of fucking F-Zero GX or something.>it's not your right to own everything. You don't NEED to illegally download non-essential entertainment If video games are considered non-important goods, why do you even care? It's not like I'm pulling a nigger and stealing prescription drugs and alcohol from a CVS. It's not on the same level as hijacking someone's car, or stealing a defenseless old woman's wallet, or unlawfully extracting money from a bank. I'd hardly call anyone torrenting a copy of a retarded Pokémon game an immoral, hardened criminal.>but le Nintendo Onlin-There's no ownership when subscribing to a service such as Nintendo Online. I haven't purchased myself a digital copy of Metroid Prime Fusion, or even a flimsy digital license. I'm essentially paying for the privilege of playing a game for a limited amount of time until I cough up more hard-earned cash to the Jew-pilled Nips JUST so I can have a couple more months of time. If I bought a Sega Genesis game on my Wii, I owned it. There was no fear of Nintendo and/or Sega removing my access whenever they felt like it, and I didn't need to pay a monthly/weekly service just to access the software. It was simply stored on my Wii's drive. I even had the ability to move it to an SD card if something happened to my Wii.
>>722563110It's my understanding they did sell them to you but then you cry about how they're selling old games you can just get for free, or that old games should cost 50 yen by virtue of their age
>>722564609>Metroid Prime FusionLol, why the fuck did I type this? Guess I was thinking of both games at the same time.
>>722564056Correct. Not like that. Dripfeeding one game every couple of months is not enough. Give us the entire catalog they have access to. Nintendo doesn't need to jump through any extra hoops to put their own games on there. You don't add value to the service by withholding games arbitrarily. Significantly more people would jump onto the expansion tier if it had more fucking games, so put them on there now instead of five years from now. Literally money on the table, and that's all without addressing the fact that it doesn't solve the issue in the OP and these games will be revoked at some point.
>>722564056>Introducing GameCube to Nintendo Switch Online!I said sell, not rent
>>722564609I'm not reading all that
>>722564609I'm not anti piracyI'm anti piracy vegan (those are also known as faggot zoomoid).
>>722564853Okay. Why did you feel the need to tell me this?
Except Nintendo has only taken down sites that host switch roms, poorfag.
>>722563110Actually I can. Seems like you don't know the law.
>>722564804>but then you cry about how they're selling old games you can just get for freeNope, most people really did like the Virtual Console. They were solid emulators for the time, and the games were actually incredibly reasonably priced. For a while, it was actually the best way to emulate some N64 games, like Paper Mario. Most people want it back.No, what happened is that Nintendo got greedy as shit and went>hey, if we didn't support Virtual Console anymore on our latest system>then we could instead RENT all these ROMs to players >instead of $10 for a game like Super Mario 64, we can force them to pay $50/yr for it instead>or if we do sell them, we can slap them into a FOMO collection that jacks up the price!so now we don't have Virtual Console anymore.
>>722564804>but then you cry about how they're selling old games you can just get for free, or that old games should cost 50 yen by virtue of their ageAlmost nobody felt this way.
>>722563110>stealing is ok because there's no other way to get this completely optional thing I don't needMutt.
>>722563387If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing you fucking retard.
>>722563110Federal law states that if you once owned a game/movie/show/music album, you have the legal right to pirate it if you lose access to the original copy you owned. If I bought a copy of a game cartridge in the 80s and it no longer works I'm allowed to pirate a ROM and download an emulator to play it.
>>722563829>>722563997>>722564260>>722564609Switch 2 being unhackable will completely destroy all of these cope narratives that PCfags make up to convince themselves that they are on a moral crusade when really they just want free shit.
>>722564804>or that old games should cost 50 yen by virtue of their ageYes. Price of a game should halve every year. No reason for a game over 3 years old to be more than $10. Or a game over 10 years old to be over $1.
>>722565879>Federal law states that [HEADCANON]
>>722565937You keep acting as if most of us pirate out of some false moral reasons. What if it's because my old copy of Metroid Prime 2 finally went out and I can't purchase a copy on modern Nintendo hardware so I instead find myself a rom, nigger?What if I wanna play one of the Japanese only Custom Robo games, but second hand copies go for gazillionz of doubloons and the game isn't being sold by the publishers, faggot?
>>722565937>[console] nonsense>convince PCfagswut
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>>722566229Its true, been that way since the 80s.
>>722563110Nintendo doesn't care, go for it.They only care when the ROM website accepts (((donations))) to operate, seriously look up the websites they took down and all of them were turning a profit in some way.
>>722563110I agree with the general sentiment but let's be real, niggas who post shit like this wouldn't buy these games legally even if in the best case scenario (perfect emulation, no added input lag, available on every platform, DRMfree on PC with extractable ROMs, for ~1 dollar a pop)
>>722563541>rob somebody>"you'll survive"The logic of retards.
>>722563110I love stealing things for free and I would steal everything if it was this easy unless it was from a small business or people. Everyone should steal more because the AAA videogame industry should die now. Hollywood will use all our money for pedo shit and god knows what else I wish covid killed hollywood so bad. Yeah normal people worked on this shit too but they'll all be replaced by pajeets and AI anyways we need to kill them faster before more Indians move into the country. I'm going to play a 30 year old fan translated jrpg in it now good day faggot
>>722566335>What if I wanna play one of the Japanese only Custom Robo gameWhat do you mean if? Go play Custom Robo right fucking now fucker it's an amazing game
>>722563387>you made this, so it's up to you when I want to sellRetarded brownoid nigger can't even form a basic sentence.
>>722566815>somebodyCorporations aren't people.
>>722566815>AAAAAAHHHH YOU'RE ROBBING THE CORPORATION THAT HAS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY NOT BUYING THEIR GAMES THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE THIS WINTER AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
I ALWAYS make sure to pirate Nintendo games, even when I don't plan on playing them at all. Just feels good that I'm going against the wishes of those anti-consumer insect bastards
>>722563110>then sell them to meNOT remastered and NOT at $20 a piece
>>722566815Nobody will care or know if you pirate a game. And it's a victimless crime. Also, complaining about anti piracy laws is a red herring. anyone facing serious legal consequences were profiteering and that was what fucked them, not playing free games.
>>722564056Nintendo didn't give a shit about rereleasing old games for decades, that shit became abandonware. Now they want to double dip on those older games when roms have already become the default method of playing them that everybody accepts.They should have met the demands of users while it still would have made a difference. But they were happy to simply let their old games die.
>Buy a game for $5-$10>Get perpetual digital rights to game, ROM file to download>Optional extra fee to get physical copy of game which runs OFF THE DISK/CART instead of requiring a download>Continue to manufacture old hardware which can also be purchasedNintendo could do this and make a lot of money while also being pro-consumer.They don't because they are anti-consumer. They're not actually interested at all in making older games available, only in making new product for customer to consume.
>>722565683I bet you thought you sounded real smart reposting that. Piracy has never been stealing. It's copyright infringement.
>>722567573YOU WOULDN'T COPYRIGHT INFRINGE A CAR
>>722566335>What if it's because my old copy of Metroid Prime 2 finally went out and I can't purchase a copy on modern Nintendo hardware so I instead find myself a rom, nigger?just because you once purchased a copy of something doesn't give you lifetime ownership of all copies. if your land cruiser breaks down, you don't get to steal another land cruiser without consequences.>What if I wanna play one of the Japanese only Custom Robo games, but second hand copies go for gazillionz of doubloons and the game isn't being sold by the publishers, faggot?well tough shit, then cough up the gazillions. just because vintage cars are hyper expensive doesn't mean you can steal them without consequence.
>>722566815>rob somebodywhat am i stealing?
>>722563110if they don't wanna sell them that's up to them, I don't mind not giving them moneynot gonna stop me playing the games though
>>722565562>stealing is oki insist, >>722567778
You will never pirate switch 2 games, you losers will spend the next decade jacking off to Nintendeen videos because you will have no games to play.
>>722565035Not only that, but NSO is a way to sell retro games to people who otherwise would not have purchase any of those titles. And it supports Nintendo's obsession with maintaining the image of "value" for their games because they don't have to assign a price for individual retro games that is based on real demand.
>>722567656>just because you once purchased a copy of something doesn't give you lifetime ownershipYes it does.>you can't steal another oneInfinitely reproducible digital goods aren't the same as depriving someone of their copy. If I gave them money for the game, I own the game, I have the right to download a backup and play the game.
>>722565683That is terrible logic. When you go to see a movie in a theater, you are paying for the time you watch the movie, not the movie itself. It is the same with video games.
>>722565562I don't support trashy anti-consumer companies. I will never ever buy or play a nintendo product
>>722565683but that's wrongbuying IS owning. piracy ISN'T stealing>>722568209false analogyyou're paying for a spot at the cinemaI'm not paying for a spot at my house because I fucking own it
>>722563387Yes i deserve everything because i am the main character of this world
>>722567631If I could I would :^) (and the chinks definitely do)
>>722563110i dont need moral justifications or to be doing mental gymnastics about logistical distribution issues. i pirate because i don't want to pay, and that's never going to change
>>722563110>You can't steal my car>Then sell it to me>No>*Thinks he's entitled to stealing the car because the owner doesn't want to sell it to him*
>>722568324No, you aren't paying for the seat. You are paying to watch the movie. If there was no movie, then no one would buy a seat. The movie is what sets the price.
>>722563110What’s with the rise in anti-piracy on /v/ lately? Is it just contrarian shitposting?
>>722568001I remember the last 50 times I was told some console was uncrackable
>>722568421This. Fucking hate the pseuds trying to intellectualize it. I just don't want to pay.
>>722568519It's literally only nintendies, always has been.
>>722563110Offtopic garbage threadNintendo isn't videogames
>>722563110i will never feel bad for made up financial losses of any big company.
>>722567656>just because you once purchased a copy of something doesn't give you lifetime ownership of all copiesYeah it does, you can legally backup your library.
>>722563110>NOOO IF YOU MAKE SOMETHING YOU MUST SELL IT!!!!piratecucks are so sad, just admit you want to play games for free
>>722568459>food analogy
>>722568575because nintendo games are the only games worth pirating
>>722568878>i own this property for 100 years even if i already profited billions off itcopyright laws are stupid. in modern days with how fast things go 10-20 years would be far more reasonable.
>>722563387>actually I should and deserve to have everything everThis is true DOE? I also have the divine right to slay ignoble serfs like you
>>722563110>cry that nintendo sells nothing but old ports>whine that they aren't selling old portsNDS fatigue is real.
>>722568503>this level of mental gymnasticsthey're not selling the movie therefore I'm not paying for it
>>722568878>just admit you want to play games for freeI'm willing to pay for it, though? Just sell it to me.I mean, of course, free is always preferable, but see above.
>>722569891no you're not. you're a piratecuck thief
>>722568878>>722569959What do you gain for slurping so hard? Like, you don't care if what you said is coherent as long as you replied.
>>722564804>>722565035>>722565132people were bitching that nintendo was using the open iNES format because they assumed that means nintendo was selling pirated roms.only for the gigaleak to reveal they hired a guy who worked on the format and were super anal about dumping roms from their own official archive
>>722564056I want to own the gameAnd wake me up when they release Baiten Kaitos origin on this shit
>>722571479>was selling pirated romsIt was more just pissed at the hypocrisy of being so anal about emulation in all its forms, calling it illegal no matter what, and then benefiting directly from it. That info from the gigaleak wouldn't change the situation in the slightest.
>>722563387Kek what a bootlicker
>>722569959You're such a bootlicking bitch. The best things in life are free
>>722563387FPBP. I emulate and pirate shit, but i do it without the mental gymnastics. I do it because i want free shit. I am stealing. I am in the wrong. But it getting shit for free is awesome.
>>722563110>Okay, that’ll be $40 for a Wii game>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>722563541This one is stupid because you're tacitly admitting to knowing of wrongdoing, when in reality piracy isn't illegal at all.
>>722568503You're fucktarded.The cinema sells you the seat. That's all you get. It's up to you to decide if what is on the screen at the time-frame you have access to a seat is worth your money or not. They could very well sell you a seat while there is nothing playing on the screen, nothing stops them except the lack of potential customers.
>>722563387Too bad about all those authors who are long dead and so obtaining a copy of their books is just permanently immoral now
IP laws are full blown retardation, and piracy is a tool that corrects it. If you legally paid a company the right to enjoy a game, you should be able to enjoy it on your computer without their permission.>>722566812>DRMfree on PC with extractable ROMs, for ~1 dollar a pop)Speak for yourself. The Sega Megadrive collection was an amazing deal.
>>722571984some things shouldn't need to be said
