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I still haven't played chapter 3 & 4.
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I played 3 last week. It was my favorite so far. For the first time, I actually like Ralsei. I haven't played 4 yet.
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it's okay, you didn't miss much.
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ralsei is becoming less liked in every chapter, clearly Toby is aiming for that
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>>722567668
It's not a finished product, so i'm waiting
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>>722567905
Chapter 1 Ralsei was the best, after he took the hat off he became way too gay
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>>722567905
I'd still do unspeakable things to that goat butthole.
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>>722567905
I like him after ch4
Now what?
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I played Chapter 3 recently, and it made me drop the game.
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>>722567668
I'll ruin your enjoyment of this artist by pointing out that he draws Kris with breast surgery scars.
Also his artstyle gets worse with time.
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>>722568090
He's fat, yknow? A fat fuck goat. Lol he eats so much cake he has manboobs hahaha
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>>722567668
Same here but neither did 2.
I had mixed feelings after ch 1 and no desire to continue when ch 2 released.
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>>722567905
I liked him more after ch4
His worst chapter was probably 2 because he barely said stuff except for the really awkward acid tunnel of love part
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>>722568581
Nta but I must admit, this makes me seethe a little.
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Black Ralsei was peak and it was all downhill from there
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>>722568262
I wanna stuffit in Muffet
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>>722568823
Black fur is perfect
Scarf is comfy
Hidden tits under the robes also perfect
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>>722568079
This, nigger ralsei best ralsei
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>>722568865
>No spider maid in deltarune
Damn you tobby
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>>722569153
And she will never come back either
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>>722568581
stop ruining my day anon
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I still believe in a happy Kriselle ending
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>>722570416
Their happy ending will be them being together in death.
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why is ralsei so passive aggressive about susie's healing powers?
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>>722568581
When somebody draws Chara with her wrist looking like a cutting board, it´s `Hot` and `I can fix her`.

When somebody does it with FemKris breasts, it´s suddenly bad.
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>>722570614
Passive aggressive is the most aggressive Ralsei gets.
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>>722570493
KINO, I accept it.
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>>722568581
Female Kris bros...
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I kinda stopped caring after chapter 2
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lying lil fruity faggot. so glad toby let us kick him while he's down at the end of chapter 4.
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>>722570914
>Final shot of the weird route is the two of them as children in heaven.
Imagine...
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>>722570683
Not me. I like my humans clean.
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>>722571309
>Heaven
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>>722567905
What? I liked him best after chapter 4, he was a touch too suspicious earlier, but in 4 he's quite clearly striving for a good end and his suspicious qualities are just him being burdened with despair.
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>>722571363
I mean, the two falling into hell together could work as well.
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>>722571318
I like my humans like I like my vegetables.

Pre cut.
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>>722571363
>>722571401
The road to Heaven is paved with bad intentions.
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>>722567905
>make fagbait character
>his character arc is learning to be less of a submissive faggot
BRAVO TOBY
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I feel satisfied with chapters 3 and 4, waiting patiently for chapter 5.
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I just read an entire Doujinshi that involved Ralsei Susie and Kris getting hypnotised and all fucked by one faceless dude.

Ask me anything.
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What makes Niggeralsei so much better, design-wise?
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>>722572276
What genitals did Kris have?
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I still haven't played chapter 2
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>>722570416
>>722570493
Noelle and Kris will be the only ones left while everyone else dies in pain and suffering.
The only way to get Kriselle is through sacrifice.
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>>722571805
Lame and gay adult Frisk.
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>>722572560
Kris was male and fucked Susie while the faceless guy fucked Kris's ass
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>>722567789
Does Kris deserve Noelle?
Does Noelle deserve Kris?
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>>722572930
No.

She's rich, therefore valuable. It's like marrying a princess, are you really going to complain about her personality when all that matters is the land consolidation?
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>>722572930
We don't have enough plot to answer that yet
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>>722572930
Ignore the fools. It's too late for them.
The answer is yes. He is the human male, she is his natural mate.
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>>722567668
My brother has you beat. He refuses to play DT because "It's not finished." even though he is absolutely obsessed with UT.
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>>722567905
Honestly it's the literal exact opposite for me. I hate the stupid
>uwu hugsy petsy fluffy boy
nonsense that he has in most chapters. if the game has him become more of an actual person instead of some stupid fagbait, i'll be happy.
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Is it weird that I find both Noelle and Kris really sexy?
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>>722573917
I keep seeing videos about people upset that the DT fandom sexualizes children.

But it occurs to me that no one actually sees them as children.
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>>722574016
I had some fags recently shit talking me because I posted porn of Noelle because she's "underage."
I honestly don't get why this kind of shit matters to people so much.
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>>722572743
That's gay. Thanks for telling me so I wouldn't seek it.
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>>722574067
It's either people that got that shit drilled into their minds since they were young and they don't know the meaning of separating life from fiction, or people that want others to know that they reject the stuff for brownie points. Functionally they're the same because neither are worth attention.
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>>722574016
This has happened in the fanbase since the days of people sexualizing adult Frisk. It will never end.
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>>722567905
i'm less suspicious of ralsei at this point and more of toby, because i don't think he'll let the player go "WOW! TWO ASRIELS!" without warming up the old spicy keychain
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Getting raped only made Noelle love Kris all the more
This is just facts.
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>>722574067
>Stop drawing her she's underaged
>The drawing in question
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>>722574016
>>722574067
The most curious thing is that they're not even "canonically" underaged? Like, you think some 13 year old is gonna have a job and be about to go to college?
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>>722574016
Every so often I'll realize Kris is actually a high schooler. Then I'll think to myself, "god damnit, Kris looked THAT good in high school?" >>722573917
Then, I'll get depressed. And jerk off.
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>>722573917
Noelle, no. That's just evidence you are straight.

Kris though...
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Why is she like this
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>>722573917
Kris is really attractive to me simply because I'd kill to look like him. He's a handsome lad.
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>>722574016
They are, like, sixteen.

Yeah, they are underage in most countries, but come on.
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>>722575129
He's a greasy twink that smells like apples.
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>>722575108
oh my god she has bpd
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Asriel and Kris is so fucking lucky....
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>>722575307
Ryuko Matoi looking ass
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>>722567668
Good, don't support the Visitors who tell you to sympathize with Visitors.
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>>722575307
>Her voice
https://youtu.be/q6L57TvFBrU?si=rkuO6fsiDm1b_l19
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>>722575137
They're also drawings and not real.
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>>722575108
She wants the good girl but needs the bad pussy.
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>>722567668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BqRVVsk-NU
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>>722575927
I mean, that as well. But at least being into actual children, drawn or not, is kind of weird. Lusting after a sixteen year old is normal.
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Noelle can never hope to compete with Susie for Kris’s affection
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>>722576050
I don't think there's anything wrong with liking aged up characters, even if they're canonically children. Plus you could say being a furry is weird, too.
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>>722575137
We live in an age where if an 18 year old dates a 17 year old, people will crucify him and try to ruin his life. People are really fucking stupid about not only age, but the age of fictional characters. It's a sad, strange world out there.
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I got to the end of Chapter 3 and gave up at the knight fight. It’s mentally too taxing.
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>>722574016
We’ve done from jerking off to 12 year olds to jerking off to 16 year olds. This is unironically a major improvement
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>>722576857
You’re allowed to lose dumbass
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>>722575307
>the gay pin
>the bi pin
>the shadow the hedgehog pin
Asriel sure knows how to pick ‘em….
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>>722567668
I didn’t even realize chapter 3 and 4 were out lol
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>>722577375
>Gay.
>Bi.
>Swings both ways, yet got trapped with a bunker to be permanently single.
KEKWAB.
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You clearly didn't push for this gay game hard enough
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Tranny furfag general 2
>>>/vg/
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>>722576050
Of course it's weird, the whole "it's fiction" thing isn't about whether or not it's weird or what makes you for liking it. It's about what reaction you're gonna have for it existing. And all the normalfags and Shitterfags and many tourists here are not only retarded about it buy also hypocritical
>oh you like drawings of violent and/or weird things that would be fucked up irl, and drawings of animals fucking too damn that's weird but to each their own I guess haha
>THAT FICTIONAL CHARACTER IS 17 YEARS OLD YOU SHOULD BE JAILED DON'T YOU DARE DRAW THAT AGAIN
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>>722577234
I do both, THOUGH.
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How likely is Suselle?
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>>722575129
I know, right? God I'd do anything to look like him.
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>>722578618
Too likely than it should be. Shit forced pairing. Hope ch. 5 shows it won't happen.
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>>722573917
femboy kris having straight sex with noelle.
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>>722578618
I don't think Susie's gonna end up being romantically interested in Noelle. Right now Susie is on a friend-making spree and she intends Noelle to be her next victim. Noelle was nice to hear that one time, so that's already a check mark.
So far every friend Susie's made involved either fighting side by side and/or against said friend. She hasn't had the chance to do that with Noelle, so she has to go about it another way. And since she's socially inept she just does what she thinks Noelle would like/appreciate in the moment. Whatever romantic implications these scenes have are purely down to Noelle pushing it in that direction.
This will eventually end up biting Noelle in the ass and lead to her crashout. There are ingame hints that this relationship isn't going to work out, at least not romantically.
The alternative is that Susie has a crush on Noelle and just hasn't realised/accepted it yet, which is why her behavior towards Noelle is so inconsistent. I'm guessing this is how most yurislop is written, I would know.
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>>722576173
Kris straight up loves Noelle and has since childhood, Cactus theory, so.
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>>722576418
Oh, aged up characters are their own ballpark altogether.

>>722577835
It's silly, yeah. At best I get wanting to keep it to their own subreddit or whatever.
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>>722579384
THIS is how Yurislop is written:
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>>722577375
Would you take a murderous chick that will kill herself for revenge or a BPD bisexual chick?
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>>722567905
But Chapter 2 Ralsei was peak RALSEI IS SUS AND HE'S GONNA BETRAY US era, after Chapter 4 he's in peoples' graces far more now
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>>722579418
Loves her like a sister
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>>722577375
Chara was anti gays though.

I mean, human gays. Monsters can do whatever.
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>>722579553
We're not talking about Susie.
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>>722579516
Latter sounds like what I want, former is what I would get.
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>>722579384
I would also add that Susie, after chapter 4, is probably in a pretty difficult headspace of either "I'm going to die", "I'm going to kill Kris", or "All of us are going to die".

I can't see her being in a headspace to start dating. And Noelle has the personality of rushing on ahead regardless.
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>>722567668
i treated ch1 and ch2 as demo. I won't play the game until its release
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>>722580439
Have fun waiting till 2030
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You are missing out on the Ralsei pissing scene, dude
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>>722579428
>Oh, aged up characters are their own ballpark altogether.
Glad we agree on that, at least.
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>>722567668
I only played the spinoff game
Underrail
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>>722580303
Yeah, overall morale is pretty low after ch4. However, I predict that ch5 will serve to remedy that and give some hope to the characters, with the festival serving as a breather to forget about their troubles for a while. So there's always a way for Toby to push more yurislop
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>>722580676
NTA but
>Soul Silver Prof. Oak’s Challenge
>Metroid Series
>Golden Sun 1/2 (never beat the last boss of 2 as a kid)
>Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
>assumedly Persona 6 by then
>Minecraft Server, I found a huge Mooshroom Island in a sea of Iceburgs and I want to make a big Crater Lake replica base with its own Wizard Island with Tower and access to portals and a Guardian Farm off the temple on the coast
I have a large backlog to go through before this game is fully out. I’ll just fap to the Noelle/Kris Suicidalpixel videos until then.
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Kralsei thread
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>>722581361
I expect chapter 5 to be a rollercoaster. Festival will be mostly lighthearted, but end with a huge "Rudy is dead bombshell". Initial part of the dark world will be lighthearted, only for it to become more apparent gradually just how broken Asgore is. Before finally concluding with Kris and Asgore having some kind of heartwarming moment... Just in time for the next big cliffhanger.
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>>722581292
tranny game
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>>722580732
I wish I knew how to get on the Ralsei-fucking-dies route man
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>>722573775
Honestly that makes more sense than playing the first 2 chapters but holding off on 3 and 4.
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>>722582206
This Kris is a biological girl btw.
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>>722582206
Kralsei is literally just Suselle but somehow even worse. Incredible feat really.
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>>722582206
Kralsei is honestly a worse ship than Suselle but few people are ready to have that conversation right now.
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>>722567905
what? he literally Beat The Allegations after explaining how he's practically omnipotent.
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>>722583709
The difference is that pretty much everyone gave up on Kralsei, including Toby.
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>>722570493
Now, this man, THIS MAN GETS IT
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>>722582206
Incest fag gtfo
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>>722574016
Teenagers are not children and you are allowed to sexualize them.
The DT fandom has moral superiority, especially compared to the UT fandom that does sexualize children. Those sick fucks.
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Someone tell Ralsei to stop lusting over brown women
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>>722585682
Monster Kid is for FemFrisk.
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Kris x Noelle
Susie x Ralsei

Holy canon
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>>722588176
Maintaining Karkat's agenda is top priority
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>>722588176
This is the best we can hope for.
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This is officially the first fanbase that I'm a part of that has shipping wars. I don't get it; I don't care who ends up with who, I just want to discover the weird routes 'cuz they're awesome.
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>>722588176
Kris x Dess
Asriel x Susie
(You) x Carol
Noelle x Chair
Ralsei x Every female darkner
Berdly's ass x My boot
Here, I solved it.
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>>722589050
>(You) x Carol
I don't want Carol, though.
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>>722588961
You haven't been in that many fanbases, then. Shipping is EVERYWHERE.
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>>722567905
him hating togor and loving chara pretty much cements how much he hates asriel/ralsei and wants to make him as unlikable as possible
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>>722589442
But he shilled for Chasriel and the last line from the stream was literally from Asriel.
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>>722589263
Since when you were the one in control?
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>>722584695
Toby always meant it to be a joke. (You) X Ralsei is genuinly more valid of a ship.
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>>722577234
>done from jerking off to 12 year olds
They are like 10 so dunno who were you jerking to
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>>722589442
He hates Togore because reddit retards came close to accidentally discovering one big twist he was trying to hide - Asriel's dead twin brother who was resurrected as Ralsei.
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>>722590228
It really is just like Pokémon. Your choices are furries or underage.
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>>722590390
Or evil milfs.
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>>722590390
This is where aged up humans provide salvation.

Honestly, besides Noelle I don't really find any of the girls all that attractive.
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>>722590514
>Two more furries
>Clanker
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>>722590568
It's like IRL - all the best girls are not real
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>>722590568
>This is where aged up humans provide salvation.
Aged up humans supremacy.
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>>722590390
Wonderful

>>722590514
Just like in pokemon!
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i like to imagine every human in the undertale/deltarune universes are of ambigious/neutral gender and all have bobcuts and yellow skin (chara has a weird skin condition)
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>>722567668
>Why yes, I am a huge Undertale and Deltarune fan.
>*proceeds to pirate Undertale and play it once for 10 minutes back in 2015, and also proceeds to not play Deltarune until it's finished by MAYBE 2030*
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>>722590856
>Chara has a weird skin condition
It's called being fucking dead.
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>>722590810
Got any Sword route pixel Kris art?
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>>722590390
people really wanna fuck noelle when toriel queen and carol are right fucking there
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>>722590913
Hades 2 proves that some people will just not play a basically finished game until it's officially released. Do they know that Deltarune is already like five times the game that all of Undertale was?

>>722590967
There's size difference to consider. Are Toriel's boobs still boobs if they're almost bigger than your entire body?
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>>722590930
I only have kris's father
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Play it
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>>722590913
I'm kinda attracted to Toby's unofficial sona and I don't know how to feel about that
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>>722590967
Noelle is simply the cuter, superior girl.
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>>722590913
>I wanna be a poser in this fandom
That implies a lot of nonsense
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>>722590265
Nah Ralsei is Yagi
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My favorite video game women are:

>Pecorine from Princess Connect.
>Rin Tosakha from Fate Stay Night.

Who should I waifu?
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>>722591568
I've seen many, many, many Deltarune threads in the past where at least one Anon asked if they should play Chapter 2 after having played Chapter 1. Yeah, makes no sense.
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Why goats, anyway? In case you hadn't noticed Mimiga are rabbits.
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>>722591802
Bibilical symbolism.
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>>722591802
The prophecy.
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>>722575307
Wiffle bats are hollow and don't hurt to be hit with, the fact that she was able to bend one from beating the shit out of Kris so hard is hilarious(a real life Wiffle bat would break rather than bend, and even then it would be VERY difficult to do that)
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>>722592297
How big are Dess's muscles?
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>>722567668
Big Deltarune fan excited to play Deltarune for the first time.
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>>722592297
Reminder that in Undertale, Asriel was supposed to have one.
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>>722591663
It's still weird that he's older than me
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>>722590390
I do prefer the Pokegirls rather than the actual Pokemon. Huh...
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>>722590913
I'm not going to hang on for cliffhangers and talking with other people about this shit is awful because it's all just kids and furries. It's better to wait until it's finished and all the hype around it is gone.
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>>722591802
To not be that obvious i guess
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>>722592980
That's clinically insane, anon. Each act is like it's own separate game in a continuing series. Do you also not play Mario until the last Mario game is released?
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>>722592980
See you in 2035
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You can't be a Christ follower and call yourself a Deltarune fan, Deltarune is literal 666 Satanism shit, look up WD Gaster battle values
This shit should be taken off the Steam Store and Switch Eshop
Literally grooming kids for gay trans and the devil
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>>722593669
It's literally the Pope's favorite game.
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>>722593795
Case in point retard
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>>722593495
This release schedule is clinically insane.
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>>722593669
>You can't be a Christ follower and call yourself a Deltarune fan, Deltarune is literal 666 Satanism shit, look up WD Gaster battle values
Game is literally about actual christian values. Not insane chaos cult evangelical values, mind you.

>>722593973
Catholicism is better than every other Christian sect.
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>>722592826
It's kind of weird to me that people are that young on 4chan, but given how dumb some people are that's sort of expected.
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>>722594027
Actual Christian values of faggotry, lesbianism, female-led divorce, "trans" "non-binary" child encouraged? Shut the fuck up.
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>>722593997
Chara is into a lot of stuff huh?
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>>722594209
>Turn the other cheek
>Pacifism
>Redemption
>Pre determinism
>Freedom

I'm sorry it doesn't view all of human civilization being destroyed as good.
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>>722568823
They just needed to bring that face back for the unhooded version and I'd be satisfied. I kind of wish he kept the scruffier look, but the Asriel similarity took priority
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>>722593495
To be fair, Mario isn't a continuous story being sold as one game.
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>>722594347
>Insane suicidal kid is into weird stuff
Stop the presses!
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>>722575108
teenage hormones are one hell of a drug
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>>722574016
they are "children" but ralsei is not "real" so it's "okay"
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Excuse me, everyone, I have a brief announcement to make.
The Ralsei is based on a dead kid creepypasta is real
The Charafag is a samefag shitposter from /vg/ and a tumblr user
And the people desperately making the same shitty Gender/Left wing Deltarune shitposts are a bunch of actual 12 year olds from a sharty discord and/or some fags abib got to try and make it impossible to talk about the game
Thank you for your time, and good night.
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>>722582206
hot
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>>722578618
anyone that says anything other than 110% confirmed is a glue huffer. absolutely nothing gets between toby and his lesboslop
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>>722568823
I like current Ralsei, some sprites are wonky though.
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Would you rather lick a hoof or a paw
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>>722594637
Asriel really needed to man up and fuck her into submission.
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>>722594993
He can't fix her
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>>722594993
She would've ruined him instead.
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>>722594735
It'd be great if that faggot left.
Of course they're not going to the admins let them intentionally be a peoblem leading up to and during the release of deltarune.
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>>722595128
He can't.

I unironically would have fixed Chara.

>>722595376
I mean, she did.
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>>722591101
I dread the kind of migrane-inducing horseshit those creatures would say on the internet after speedrunning and speedreading all 7 chapters of Deltarune. There's too many tourists as is.
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>>722595780
If they had sex she would've ruined him even more.
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>>722595976
Most fan fics I've read disagree.
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>>722595780
You do and at the same time you even manage to make her worse
That's an achievement!
But its not a fair comparison
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>>722596220
Post ONE.
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>>722594793
This
>Toby stops everything
>looks directly at the camera
>"I love my shitty yuri. Susie is like Undyne. From my shitty yuri. Ever notice any shy girls Susie has shitty yuri scenes with?"
>resumes larping as willy wonka
>/v/ sees this
>"nah, it's a red herring, he said maybe"
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>>722595391
Honestly the annoying thing is the admins are aware that retard is just filling the thread with conversations with himself.
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>>722583405
>This Kris
not with those tranny scars in the pool comic lmao
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>>722596804
It's really funny that this actually did happen but we all memoryholed it.
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>>722595829
>Finally, after 80 hours I finally made it to the final boss
>wtf do you mean I have to re-enter a screen 50 times in chapter 1 to unlock the true ending
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>>722596989
Even if she cuts off her breasts she will never be a man.
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>>722597083
I was too busy beating my meat to Ralsei (female & black) because my interpretation > what appeals to other people
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>>722596804
Its a hard thing to accept that the worst written ship is the main one
Ch5 i'm sure is meant to create tension to solidify the ship
But while the game updates to ch6 people will be like
>suselle is over!
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>>722597264
ImaginationCHAD...
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>>722596516
What Asriel and Chara need is Frisk to act as Roulxs but good to save their relationship.
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>>722597343
Joke's on them. I have Noelle fully gaslit and wrapped around my little finger. All I have to do is snap them, and she will do my bidding. Enjoy "your" wife, Susie.
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>>722597343
My personal (correct) cope is that romantic relationship drama is not really high priority in the story,
unless love finds its way to the girl becomes literal.
It might sadly still sour a few good moments when it does take the front seat.
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>Don't remember childhood or mentally lock them because I was never allowed to be a kid
>Play Deltarune and liked it okay to play chapter 2
>Haven't played since

I feel like this is a good place to stop I fear the game will get worse
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>>722596705
I mean, the one example I could think of, at least of the top of my head, has Asriel prevent Chara from dying and then later fixing him by fucking her.
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>>722597685
Frisk unironically could have fixed Chara and probably did fix Dess in the Undertale universe.
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>>722596804
It's him setting up a red herring.
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>>722597936
Frisk just fixes everyone. She's just that cool.
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>>722597685
Frisk is too agreeable and would be made worse by Chara, but Frisk's attitude would help to calm Chara, letting Asriel relax until both decide that Asriel is fun to tease
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>>722597829
Chapter 3 is so fucking fun and cool. It blows 1 and 2 out of the water.
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>>722598148
It's a coin flip I think, either he's baiting or he really is just that dogshit at writing romance.
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>>722598509
I think he's pretty good at writing tragic doomed romances, which is why I doubt Suselle will amount to anything.
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>>722597793
Based (you)elle enjoyer
Maybe tobby will allow us that instead of the "used up" death
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>>722598675
I think in Chapter 5 we will recreate finding the secret door from Mantle, and Noelle will be used up to open it and for us to get the Vessel. Then Kris will be used up.
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Does anyone know if the Sword route still references Snowgrave even if you didn't do that route?
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>>722582206
It’s still funny how kralsei seemingly just faded into irrelevancy after ch3 and 4. Krusie and Krisellefags are thriving, susellefags are begging for their lives, hell even RALSUSIEfags are doing better than Kralseifags
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>>722598675
Sorry, Noelle.

I only have one partner. Now, and forever.
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>>722597820
In the end susie feels like she is going to end with nobody, everyone remaining as friends
Like in many romance stories the author chickening out to "not upset anyone"
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>>722598832
Sword route board 2 is one big Snowgrave reference, so yes.
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>>722598581
Which doomed romances are you referring to? I don't remember any in Undertale
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>>722599000
But that doesn't make any sense. Snowgrave never happened in that playthrough.
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>>722598917
Because people finally realized that Kris and Ralsei aren't actually that close. 99% of Kris and Ralsei interacting are actually just (You) and Ralsei. Kris is slowly starting to care about him but 1: More as a sibling. 2: He MIGHT still be manipulating him into going along with everything.

Like, people often bitch about popular ships just being you self inserting as Kris and wanting to fuck Sussie/Noelle. But Kralsei is 100% the most guilty of that. Nothing implies a close relationship between Kris and Ralsei until the end of chapter 4.
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>>722599020
Toriel and Asgore.
Undyne and Alphys in almost every neutral ending.
Chara and Asriel.
The dog couple and guard couple in a genocide run.
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>>722598391
I don't think so. Frisk only follows Chara in genocide and even then can end the route at any moment. I think a true pacifist Frisk could tardwrangle them both.
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>>722567668
Not gonna lie. I wish Delta started at ch 4. It's a different game to me now.
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>>722598808
Noelle replacing the vessel would be the best case scenario
though it seems unlikely

>>722598917
The knight scene and kris being in general against the efforts of the party keeps him as an antagonist to us and ralsei even if he is still helping kris despite it all
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>>722599082
Ralsei is the only actually good person in the squad. Must be because never he never watched any movies growing up.
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>>722599210
I don't think we are going to possess Noelle at all. That shit is going to age as badly as Firegrave imo.
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>>722567905
He only makes you hate him because he knows you love to punish brats.
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>>722599057
Why doesn't it?
It references snowgrave, but only you actually did the snowgrave route
does it say, "hey, remember how you did snowgrave?"
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>>722599198
Cool. I was planning on replaying the game before playing ch. 4, but there's already so much busywork in trying to do everything. Game's not even finished yet.
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>>722590204
True. Every interaction Ralsei has with Kris feels like he's speaking to (YOU) through Kris. In the acid tunnel he literally turns towards or away from the camera, depending on your choices.
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>>722599252
Ralsei is mostly a good person, the issue is he literally doesn't view himself as a person and if Kris told him to kill something he would probably do it. Him being in league with Kris, and thus the knight, isn't entirely implausible all things considered.
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>>722599057
Deltarune wasn't a game meant to release in chapters.
The tutorial for the Egg rooms is in chapter 3 despite everyone finding them back in 2018.
It's possible that it even caused the scene to be rewritten since the eggman now jokingly refers to the way you get into the chapter 3 egg room despite that serving zero purpose.
The MANTLE minigame also was seemingly intentionally designed as a tutorial for snow grave, and reactive to you going and doing Snowgrave and coming back to play through it once more.
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>>722599376
Susie would also kill for me, because it's fun. That means I've got 3 killsluts. The eventual final boss better watch his fucking ass.
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>>722599372
I mean, people were meming about Kris hating Ralsei after chapter 2 and while I think that was probably overblown it's becoming increasingly more obvious that their relationship isn't anywhere near as clean as most shipping art portrays them as.

I honestly almost think there is going to be some kind of payoff to the Ralsei choices where he might join Kris or stay with you and Susie depending on what you picked.
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>>722598917
Ralsusiefags are thriving, there just aren't many of them.
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>>722599252
>Ralsei is the only actually good person in the squad.

Well see what Susie has to say about that next chapter.
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>>722599380
>The tutorial for finding the "Egg Room" in Deltarune's Chapter 3 involves solving a puzzle with a Lancer, using Susie to throw a block, going "nowhere" through a specific door, and then holding left during a fight with the Dustfroggit enemies to be taken to the hidden green-colored Egg room to find the Man who gives you the Egg

WHAT
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>>722599376
Ralsei wouldn't because his fear of the end of the prophecy is above his servitude, and he believes being nice is the only way to change that fate.
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>>722599506
Ralsusie is going to be rediscovered in a few years as one of the top Deltarune ships.
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>>722599506
I'm more of an assriel fan meself.
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>>722599521
Susie where are your parents
Where do you live
Do you like eat garbage for breakfast
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>>722599565
Didn't he say that was basically just something he made up and he doesn't honestly have that much faith in it?
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>>722567905
It's kind of bullshit that he is still allowed to keep secrets. I understand that Susie doesn't really care anymore and Kris probably already knows a lot more than we do, but what the fuck does he have to keep so many secrets for? Like when he's asked about the titans he's just like
>um they're evil lmao
I mean is it going to take Noelle going batshit to get some answers out of him?
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>>722599638
I like Asriel (female)
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>>722599173
Would he watch from the chair?
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>>722599684
Yes, but that was still his best bet at avoiding it. Plus he really dislikes what you are doing with Noelle in Snowgrave and says it's a bad choice.
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>>722599173
Is not like chara will gaslight frisk, but Frisk likes to play along even more in true pacifist, agreeing to all monsters shenanigans, being so close to chara, frisk has no reason to deny most requests and chara having such a soothing human partner to hang around with, would be more at ease
They kinda balance out
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>>722599728
Sacrilege.
Delet this.

That's just... Toriel.
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>>722598917
All people are into taboo things, societal norms and fears of societal ostracization have just kept us in check for centuries. Now that the internet exists, the cat's out of the bag - No one is happy with normal sex.
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>>722599171
>Toriel and Asgore
Oh yeah, with all the slander these two get, I forgot they were a happy couple once
>Chara and Asriel
Always saw them more as siblings but their story is pretty kino
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>>722599768
Maybe.
https://files.catbox.moe/9jsbhi.png
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>>722599638
We know Chara
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>>722599713
I 100% believe he probably spilled the beans to Kris about everything during the prison scene with Lancer and Kris told him to not share any of it with the player.

>>722599807
Honestly, I think above all, Chara just genuinly finding a human they like and respect would do so much for them mentally. Even if they still think Frisk is just "The one good one" even admitting that means they are way less likely to go through with their suicide plan.
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>>722599807
See? They need Frisk to be their Roulxs Kaard and actually fix them both.
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>>722599846
>Always saw them more as siblings but their story is pretty kino
They are described as "Just" best friends but it's VERY easy to read them in a romantic light. Just with both of them being rather young. Even their heart locket is basically a promise to always be together.
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>>722599838
Toriel ain't got a hyperdeath form, thoughbeit. Asriel (female) also has some new opportunities from the 10th anniversary stream confirming Chara as female (mommy)
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>>722599372
It's often ambiguous who he's really addressing.
He's also supposed to be some sort of prophecy tutorial darkner with a fake pleasant personality,
which is why Kris doesn't like him very much until the very end of chapter 4.
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>>722599280
Too much bait for the angel ingame
And with the current rose animation
To not do it would be a waste
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So honest question are you gonna be a way bigger faggot because you got caught last thread?
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>>722599713
Ralsei is a special darkner made for the purpose of fulfilling or manipulating the prophecy somehow.
He keeps secrets because he's instructed to do so, and because he thinks it allows him to better steer the prophecy towards a better end.
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>>722600170
I think it's just too much work for Tobert to make her into another protagonist to replace Kris. But I could be wrong.
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>>722599953
Even if by some weird reason chara still tried to start the plan Frisk would stop them, and being in their situation it doesn't feel like chara would try to kill frisk instead
They would try to do something about the barrier regardless, being so determined, both of them

>>722600050
Asriel would either become a toy boy or a jealous one
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>>722600785
>They would try to do something about the barrier regardless, being so determined, both of them
They would, but it's hard to say what.

At the very least they would make a promise to fix the situation when they die of natural causes.
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>>722600170
I think we'll be stuck with Kris till the end no matter what route we choose or what choices we make. Even the vessel we made will remain discarded
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>>722600763
Is not a protagonist per se
Noelle would still lose herself in (you)r influence
(You) would be free, but have a cool and edgy 6 winged deer that sometimes reacts when fighting her friends
But you're right about the work part, radiation fox has been lazy with the weird route, currently barely changing the events, still it would be a waste
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>>722600785
>Asriel would either become a toy boy or a jealous one
The former is based so I will vouch for that one.
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>>722601018
Yeah, I can't see Toby creating an entire new protagonist for the Weird Route and only the Weird Route. It just seems like too much work for him. Not even Undertale had something like that and that game's changes is bigger than Deltarune's.
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>>722601306
>>722601306
I could almost kind of buy it if Noelle just becomes a total blank slate. Like, no dialogue, no reaction, just a complete blank cypher that does what you are told.

Would be especially cool if everybody arounds you reacts like you are a weird zombie person who doesn't even care when their dad dies.
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>>722588176
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>>722601518
That's kinda what i think
Instead of doing whatever route you're supposed to do with the party, you just do it with noelle, with the freedom to kill in general, i don't think noelle would give any dialogue options
The path works, the problem is tobby himself, the time in chapters he gave to himself to do the plot and that he doesn't seem interested in expanding much the weird route
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>>722601518
The only way I see it is if it's a glorified cutscene yeah. I don't see Toby making us play as anyone except a human in these games.
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>>722600050
Cute. Have this sloppa I forgot to post anywhere.
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Stop fucking my mom, Sans
Stop eating my shampoo, Susie
Stop lusting after girls, Noelle
All these fucking monsters I swear to god
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>>722602216
And then there is (you)
Doing your best to mess with his plans
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>>722602216
Kris the stupid chud keked son.
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What was her fucking problem?
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>>722602216
dont care
you vill examine ze books, every last von.
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>>722603396
Being a lesbian.
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>>722603396
Anyone else see Noelle's portrait as having batwings?
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>>722603396
She's in denial.

>Kris doesn't mean anything to me, and I don't mean anything to her.
>Otherwise, why would he ghost me when Dess went missing and I needed help?
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>>722603396
Here is a better question
What is Kris's fucking problem?
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>>722603485
Her sprites are cursed. I have to try very hard to see the back of her hair as hair and not the hunchback of notre dame
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>>722603735
He killed Dess by accident, or at least thinks he did, and he hates himself for it.
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>>722582206
Ralsei should have his own harem at the end of the story
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>>722603485
>>722603764
Are you guys me?
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>>722603735
The real question is what isn't his problem.
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Any interesting takes on the prophecy? Personally I think it's a lot more straightforward than most people think it is.
>THE FIRST HERO. THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS
>THE SECOND HERO. THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART
>THE THIRD HERO. THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK...
I don't think Ralsei was bullshitting here. The three heroes were always meant to be Kris, Susie, and Ralsei. I guess the vessel we created could stand in for Kris, but I don't think we'll be seeing our creation again.
>LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL
This is literally just a romantic interest for Susie. It's tempting to think it's the soul we control but I don't think we'll be switching hosts at any point in the game, we're stuck with Kris.
>AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL. AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL
This is referring to the second hero and not Noelle, having two separate girls in the prophecy and referring to both of them as THE GIRL would be retarded. Since this one shows the ACT symbol, this will probably be Susie's final attempt at reasoning with the final big bad.
>THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE
This is Noelle after the crash out, she has plenty of angel symbolism associated with her to fit here. It's tempting to think this is meant to be (YOU) but this would basicaly mean we were the bad guy all along. The only effect snowgrave will have is the way Noelle ends up crashing out.

The part of the prophecy that Susie breaks is the only one that the gang will be able to change and since Ralsei gets a nice bloodstain on his cheek in that scene he'll probably end up giving his life for that to happen

Toby wants you to overcomplicate this shit. He wants you to think this is some FNAF level goofiness when in reality it's just a basic bitch hero's save the world story. It's the ultimate subversion.
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why would chara do this?
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>>722603735
He knows being around Noelle will only hurt her more in the future
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>>722603396
Being used as a pawn by her Mother, who knows about the prophechy and tried to get her and Kris together so she would play the part of the Monster Girl.
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>>722604242
It's her fetish.
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>>722604242
>Be very influential
>Have a lot of free time
Wouldn't you?
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>>722604242
Didn’t realize chara was based like that
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>>722604348
Being around Noelle fuels his inner serial killer.
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>>722604143
>Eating a whole pie by himself after conspiring with the TV
>Chugging down a glass of syrup from noelle's house as if it was a drink

He's going to be fat when he grows up
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>>722604738
He literally doesn’t get to fucking eat because of the soul. He is probably starving 99% of the time
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>>722604738
>That snoot in the window
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>>722603396
Noelle was fumbling badly and there's no way to say "We were the closest friends since we were little kids until my sister vanished and for reasons I can't understand Kris stopped talking to me even though I think about how much our relationship meant to me" without it being the most mortifying and pathetic statement ever
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>>722604231
>3 heroes and a girl, 4 characters
>love = LOVE?
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>>722604903
I really hope there is a part where Noelle just tears into Kris during the normal route for being such a awful friend.
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>>722604231
The prophecy is flexible enough that Carol tried to control it. She wanted the Knight to be the Prince from the Dark, Kris to be the Human Souls and Noell to be the Monster Girl.
But it was co-opted by Ralsei playing the part of the Prince from the dark, possibly due to Kris???

Also the Prophecy was made by Asriel when he was playing around in the dark worlds as a kid with his friends. He read the Fantasy Books and came up with a cool Prophecy for him and his friends to fufill. Asriel also created the closet dark world and Ralsei for Kris.
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>>722604807
>Yeah eat that pezza you fat whore
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>>722604903
She literally could have said something like “we used to be really close but drifted apart over the years”. But she goes out of her way to deny they ever had any relationship, likely due to realizing Susie would interpret it as romantic
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>>722597820
susie wouldn't have a meme as her username
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>>722604802
We feed him a lot of... stuff and if he can sneak up warming berdly when interacting with his heater, he could grab a snack when interacting with the fridge
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>>722605238
Dark world food probably doesn’t count
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>>722604738
he will get acute cholecystitis after a night of binging and need to have his gall bladder removed
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>>722605016
There is so much suffering and anguish packed into that doe that's ready to explode and freeze the world over. The only thing missing from this shitshow sundae is an actually horrible bully that picks on her
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>>722604231
>This is Noelle after the crash out, she has plenty of angel symbolism associated with her to fit here. It's tempting to think this is meant to be (YOU) but this would basicaly mean we were the bad guy all along. The only effect snowgrave will have is the way Noelle ends up crashing out.
what about the angel symbolism associated with the player retard
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>>722577375
its called being based
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>>722605132
>But she goes out of her way to deny they ever had any relationship, likely due to realizing Susie would interpret it as romantic
That, and the fact how insane it sounds that your #1 bestie cared about you but at the same time was never there for you at your lowest despite being next-door neighbors and deliberately avoids you
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>>722605726
I mean, I'm sure the story will validate that to some extent by Kris having a reason for doing what he did but I still hope Noelle calls him out on it.
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>>722604231
>The three heroes were always meant to be
This is probably wrong; it could be anyone who fits into the description.
Note that Ralsei tries very hard to fit his darkner ass into the third hero description,
wearing a hood and changing his version to "prince FROM deepest dark"
>Since this one shows the ACT symbol
Act-ing is supposed to be a Kris only thing according to Ralsei in chapter 2
Girl-Kris theory confirmed.
>she has plenty of angel symbolism associated with her to fit here
That's why the conspiratards are trying to make someone else fit
>>722605095
>Noell to be the Monster Girl
No monsters in the real prophecy. Ralsei made that shit up.
Closet Dark world looks (and sounds) like an old JRPG.
Note the generic stores and fake chiptune music.
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>>722605613
What would happen if they met?
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>>722606003
People made several greentexts about that.

Unless BPD Dess ends up canon though, I doubt she can actually compete with Chara.
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>>722605898
Noelle can ask to hang out any time. She’s just a pussy
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>>722605613
>Asriel unironically believes "[he] can fix her" for both of his girlfriends across both universes.
>Chara: gaslights him into absorbing her soul to become an accomplice to genocide; he resists, gets her killed, gets himself turned into a soulless empathy-lacking flower, and causes his parents to split.
>Dess: [REQUIRE FURTHER DATA]
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>>722575108
Wasnt it Susie saying she wish Kris was here?
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>>722606003
did Semi start making art again?
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>>722605429
>actually horrible bully that picks on her
She has an eldritch horror stalking her
That should suffice

The crash out of this game must be made like a nuke, anything else will fall flat
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>>722606212
Noelle has a very weak willed personality. If Kris starts ghosting her she isn't going to call him out on it.
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>>722606252
The issue with Asriel is that he claims he wants to fix them. In reality he wants to hold their hands as they both fall into hell.
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>>722606442
The poor bastard didn't even knew he could try to fix her
He was too innocent at the time, even as flowey he is just trying to gain chara's approval
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>>722603396
Anyone else think Susiie dialog might be interpreted either as pro Krusie and pro Suselle? When she ask whether riding a ferris wheel means anything she could be thinking either about her past ride with Noelle or about her future ride with Kris
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>>722594027
>Catholicism is better than every other Christian sect.
Wrong.
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>>722606264
No, that's not him. It's another guy.
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>>722572930
Yes.
Yes.
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>>722606736
It's kind of hard to say how innocent he was, frankly. He still agreed to do genocide because Chara said it's what big boys do. He also seemed to understand that Chara was pretty close to the edge yet seemingly didn't tell anybody.

I might be reading too much into it, but I think on some level he's similar to Noelle in that he liked to be made uncomfortable. Chara was cool to him because he could do that, but also understood they were closer than anybody else. That Chara would tell him things she didn't tell anybody else. Asriel grew up in a very tiny world, most likely being coddled by almost everybody around them while also maintaining some level of distance from everybody as the kings son. To him a person like Chara dropping into their life was the most exciting and cool thing possible.
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>>722606834
It is VERY ambiguous
When she sits she keeps this weird expression that conveys nothing, her portrait sprite is mostly doubtful
But OF WHAT!? what does she feel about all of this?
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>>722568262
>>722568865
>>722569153
there was a pic with muffet inviting kris out back to suck his dick but I can't find it
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>>722601756
Hey fuck off I want the fish
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>>722607205
He got completely overwhelmed and gaslighted
But his nature won at the end for the price of their lives
I wonder if he gained any LOVE after chara died
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>>722606834
Could be. By default its about Noelle, but if you picked Susie when she ask who are taking onto festival she might be aware you will take her on a ferris wheel
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>>722606076
>several greentexts
Got any?
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>>722607571
>He got completely overwhelmed and gaslighted
Overwhelmed, yes. Gaslighted... not really.

I just don't get the impression Chara was some kind of master manipulator.
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>>722607641
I wrote one myself, but it was never saved as a screenshot so I would have to dump the entire thing here.
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>>722607363
like half of muffet's art is lewd
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>>722603396
>big Suselle scene
>half of it is just kriselle bait
>”btw Suselle is alphdyne 2.0”
Just what the fuck is Toby cooking
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>>722606834
Always saw it as pro Suselle, yeah.
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>>722607707
Chara kinda lied to him about they just needing to get six souls when she wanted to kill everyone.
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>>722607307
It’s unfortunately probably suselle related.
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>>722607641
here's one
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Where is my FUCKING Vessel, Ghaster-sama
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What the fuck is Dess’s fucking problem?
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>>722608189
and another
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Why did Chara force Dess to rape me?
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>>722607707
Chara is very straightforward so
Not as straight up manipulation, but pressuring him like
>Is the RIGHT thing to do
>You HAVE to do it
>Why wait until i'm old?
>I'll still be there with you!

>>722608068
>oh what is a small collateral damage!!!~
>They DESERVE it anyways
>Gets rekt'd
Since Asriel refused to fight i wonder what did they saw initially, some children playing? some families? its a neat scene to imagine
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>>722608068
I agree, but, again, I don't think she was trying all that hard. They openly shared their intention to walk inside the village carrying their own corpse. Considering Asriel knows Chara was 1: Suicidal. 2: Really hated his hometown. Their intention was obvious enough that it's hard to believe Asriel didn't figure it out beforehand.

>>722608387
It's mostly pressuring, yeah. Though, from what little we see, not even particularly sophisticated pressuring. Basically just going "Come on, all the big kids do genocides".
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>>722608369
Kris... that wasn't Chara... It was you.
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>>722608283
>Rich girl.
>Hates her mom.
>Dad is way too chill to actually correct her.
>Loves her sister while also probably being secretly jealous she's the perfect angel everybody loves.
>Only man in hometown that even acknowledges she exists doesn't want to pin her down and fuck her.
>Zero female friends.
>Despite all of her cool girl acts, literally only Kris and Noelle take her seriously.
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>>722608283
Kris needed to be corrected
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i played all four chapters of this game and i still don't get it and i still don't get how people come to certain conclusions about it. maybe i'm just stupid..
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Whats his endgame?
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>>722608751
At the very least you must be able to comprehend that in chapter 5 Ralsei will have a solo fight
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>>722608751
What don’t you get?
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>>722608781
to eat susie's pie
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>>722608751
Do ask
Is part of the fun

>>722608781
>A living doe
>Freedom after using (you)
>Empty fridges
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>>722608541
>Considering Asriel knows Chara was 1: Suicidal. 2: Really hated his hometown. Their intention was obvious enough that it's hard to believe Asriel didn't figure it out beforehand.
Asriel is VERY naive. I really don't think it's hard to believe he didn't get it until the time came.
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Why is ralsei so fat? is all that cake good for his health?
https://files.catbox.moe/xlii1d.png
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>>722608068
I stand by the idea that Chara had no way of knowing that she would maintain control over the shared body or if she would even be conscious. Which would mean that getting the six human souls and freeing the underground was what she intended.
Not that it matters, once at the wheel she would definitely end up nuking the whole village, I don't think Asriel would let her go beyond that.
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>>722608781
Like Chara: He wants to die and save people by doing it.
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>>722609129
Susie will be able to talk him out of it, unlike that pathetic cuck asriel
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>>722609063
It's not entirely implausible, but like I said I think on some level he kind of realized Chara was trouble and liked her because, not in-spite of that.

Honestly, I do wonder why Asriel liked her so much considering his status as universally beloved prince otherwise.
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>>722608751
People don't play the game and most of this thread is a mentally ill nutcase replying to himself about a character not even in this game because he made himself look stupid.
Perverse incentives exists for things that are popular but people don't actually like.
Just look at the YEARS of screaming in tf2 threads to completely change everything about the game to "fix" it.
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>>722608962
I want to kiss my sexdoll... not Kris...
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>>722609235
Asriel is the type to back out at the last moment.

Susie will literally beat Kris to a pulp if she finds out what he's doing.
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>>722604143
Kris is peak "I can fix him" bait.
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>>722609085
genetics, i guess. toriel and asgore are both pretty thick too
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>>722584427
>omnipotent
omniscient* and only to a certain extent
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>>722609241
Maybe your theory of him liking bad girls really is true desu.
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>>722609445
The only thing fixing him is the sweet release of death. Or Dino tits
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>>722609445
I'm torn on trying to fix him and wanting to bully him hard enough to have him try and shoot up a school or hang himself.
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>>722609681
Holy based
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>>722609645
We don't know enough about Dess to really say with any certainty. If she's a perfectly well natured tomboy with a love for music I might be overreaching. But if she does turn out to have a serious dark side I think it's fair to say Asriel is probably into girls with obvious warning signs.
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>>722568581
Toby's a massive faggot and naturally his fans are as well. Shit like that shouldn't surprise anyone.

>>722574016
They come across as 15 to me. They've finished puberty. I don't know what you're waiting for.
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>>722609836
We will have to wait four years to know if you are right, I guess.
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>>722609095
Originally intended, maybe so
Still, chara needs a lot of important information to even begin to make that plan
>She needs to know how the barrier works
>She has to know it has to be explicitly a boss monster absorbing a human soul for all the technicalities
>she has to know how to even get her soul absorbed
>She has to know that after the process this monster boss will be stronger than a human
>She has to know that they need 7 human souls in this single monster to break the barrier
My head canon is that they got baited to do it
>Toriel and asgore suddenly don't notice that their adopted child is suffering from the same symptoms asgore suffered just some time ago
>Implying monsters that old don't already know the effects of the plants of their garden
>toriel and asgore don't notice asriel bringing more and more flowers/poisoned tea to chara
Implying chara poisoning asgore was not an accident but a nudge
Their son would become the god hero of monsters if chara's plan would had succeeded, its sus
But with monsters being generally brain dead its surely not the case
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>Kris will betray this
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>>722610429
Big deer sis nursing handjobs too good, sorry.
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>>722567789
plural? who else is she talking about?
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>>722610512
You make a compelling argument
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>>722610373
It's a interesting theory, but I somewhat doubt it considering how much Asgore and Toriel were affected.

Either Asgore and toriel genuinly missed the warning signs or they simply never assumed Asriel would be involved.
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>>722610429
And then we fight her like this
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>>722610373
I don't think Chara actually put much thought into the plan, it was a knee jerk reaction to almost killing Asgore by accident (yes, I do think the poisoning was unintentional), an attempt to amend that fuckup, suffering the same pain he had to suffer.
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>>722611204
That combined with him getting told he's the messiah already probably making him feel he has to do something big.
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Quit replying to yourself
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>>722611204
Is not a complicated plan, but chara needs to know all of this to do it
What is the point in killing herself if
>they can't leave
>her soul vanishes after dying
>asriel can't do anything with it
The warning plaques were made after her mess, so, how did she learnt all of this?
if not from the royals, then the royal scientist?
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>>722611754
>The warning plaques were made after her mess
I'm assuming it was public knowledge. Was it ever implied, or even stated, that it wasn't?
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>invites Kris into her room
>closes the blinds
>starts scooting closer with her eyes closed while talking about how much she missed them
Seriously what the FUCK was she planning here?
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>>722611754
I think humanity probably knows about the barrier and souls, even if it's just legend. So once she knew monsters were real, she just worked out everything else. At least, that's my headcanon. It would explain why Frisk doesn't look shocked at monsters.
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>>722612020
>What was she planning
>Inviting a teenage boy into her room.
>With the intention of confessing something.
She wanted him to walk her home gently.
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>>722612118
More like throw her into her bed
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>>722607021
Based
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>>722612020
Kissu.
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>>722612020
She wanted to get railed, that's what
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>>722573917
go away faggot, Kris was already confirmed as male in official art approved by Tony
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>>722611892
The only written information about it is on the plaques, the library has only propaganda
Gerson too could know a lot of this, if chara learned it by accident
There are some weird traditions, undyne has this speech prepared beforehand for frisk, but that is when they are already at war and everyone is already hunting for souls, so its uncertain still

>>722612041
Surely there are legends in the very town next to the place in question, what do they say, is a curious speculation
Frisk power walks trough everything, she is that good
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>>722610429
Only on weird route, where he sacrifices Noelle.
On normal route Kris will sacrifice himself as he is the Christ and Susie is Mary Magdalene who was the first to witness Christ ressurection and who was also his lover
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>>722612614
he's so cool...
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>>722612776
>who was the first to witness Christ ressurection and who was also his lover
Kill yourself, heretic.
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>>722612776
Kris will probably ‘die’ at some point but Susie will use her Mary Sue healing powers to revive him
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>>722610556
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>>722612742
Gerson telling Chara could be cool.
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>>722612742
>Frisk power walks trough everything, she is that good
To be fair, that's true. I still like my personal headcanon of monsters being a fairytale.
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if krusie isn't confirmed canon by the end of the series im going to kms
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>>722612984
Start tying the rope
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If say hypothetically speaking I was gonna add that Yagi guy, what should I ask him? You know like besides does he know what happened on his birthday in 2018. Or is halloween actually his birthday.
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>>722612020
>Kisses
>SEGGS
>Breeding
>Impregnation
Witnessing Kris's incompetence fills you with Frustration
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>>722613047
i think you should kill yourself dilbert
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>>722612984
Cool, before you do it can you put me in your will? Thanks
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>>722610429
and I can't wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib-bZZjo_oQ
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>>722613041
i refute the implication of that screenshot with the diner scene making noelle wait
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>>722612020
>Seriously what the FUCK was she planning here?
A passionate night of intense, wild nuzzling
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>>722612984
It will depend on choices. If you even miss ONE thing from this table, you will be cucked by Suselle
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>>722613131
Ignore it.
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>>722612984
Toby is going to KILL this man.
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>>722613047
I don't think you should contact him, and he's probably gonna yell at you and tell you to go away, but if he doesn't see if he has a picture of his old character and maybe ask if that eevee person telling him to kill himself was real.
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>>722613373
Nigger how many times do you have to embarrass yourself with trying to assert there's one dude, especially now that we know specifically YOU'RE one dude, maybe two on a good day?
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>>722612984
>Betting your life on any sort of straight Susie romance.
You'd have a better chance winning the powerball. Never trust a yurifag like Toby.
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>>722613475
Noted
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was it autism?
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>>722613663
She's a dork.
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>>722613663
Nah.

She's just spoiled and coddled.
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>>722608751
>i still don't get how people come to certain conclusions about it
...conclusions like?
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>>722613373
>Linking an archive of the date they found him
What was your strategy here?
Same shit as when someone tried to use it to prove there was "one guy" that posted there was a single Ralsei is based on a dead kid poster?
Or that time you tried to prove "yellowfags" exist?
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>>722613663
Yes. She's as weird as Kris.
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>>722613649
Is there any actual indication that Toby is a yurifag besides Undyne x Alphys? Like, did he ever shill a piece of media that has dykes in it?
Keep in mind Alphys was originally meant to be a dude, but the self-insert was too obvious, so he changed it
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>>722613663
it was a white woman moment
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>>722612984
trust the plan
Believe in Tricky Tony
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>>722613663
I would marry a girl on the spot if she said something like this.

>>722614128
>Like, did he ever shill a piece of media that has dykes in it?
Touhou.

>B-But that's just fans!
Toby likes Ran, he doesn't give a fuck.
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>>722614128
As far as I know, no. This is almost entirely a constructive narrative for annoying people that like "Suselle" even going all the way back to chapter 1 and 2's demo releasing even with Toby putting up more red flags than a chinese military parade since then.
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>>722614128
Undertale's 10th anniversary stream, with the whole girls dating girls and Susie having a thing for the shy girl.
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>>722614318
He must be borderline retarded to spoil a part of the plot of his supposed dream game like that.
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If Toby shows Chara as Asriel's girlfriend from college I'm seriously going to kill myself
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>>722614729
i mean if he's really going for suselle despite how bad the writing for it is...
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>>722614710
>You forced him to sit after removing the cushion
Oh don't think i didn't notice
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>>722614857
Why?
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I hope if my fangame gets popular people will fucking hate the main romantic subplot and instead prefer a minor side couple I accidentally created .
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>>722614857
A lot of people are dying in 2030
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>>722614857
Nobody cares you retard you're just annoying.
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>>722614857
It would he funny as fuck but it's literally never happening, don't worry.
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>>722613047
Mention that people have been looking for him for 5 years
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Toby gets called a yurifag despite those bara Royal Guard guys and NicePants
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>>722615285
I just hope they keep it vague enough that I can write fanfics about Asriel's college misadventures afterwards without breaking canon.
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>>722615392
Toby gets called a yurifag for the same reason people assert that he corrected Kris's pronouns during a live stream and the retard in the current thread is insistent on samefagging a conversation that has nothing to do with Deltarune.
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>>722610429
If I betray her, I might get to see her complete mental breakdown. It is something I crave, deep in my bones. To see her so conflicted and upset where she can't even string together a sentence. All 5 stages of grief on full display. I want to give her everything she ever wanted and then take it all away, leaving her alone yet again, and it'd hurt all the more now that she knows exactly what was missing from her life. I want her to deflate, to crouch down and to cry uncontrollably as her hopes and dreams are crushed to smithereens. I'd keep a save file right before that moment to relive it again and again and again and again and again.
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>>722571805
>still wearing striped shirts in their teens
so they're all predators?
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>>722615552
This but with Kris.

Well, specifically, the moment when he realizes he's 1: Not getting Dess back. 2: Won't be forgiven.
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>>722615518
My hope is a vague mention if anything
They shouldn't make an appearance
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>>722615740
Agree there. It would be kind of funny as a minor mention. Like Asriel going "I made a bunch of friends at college, some of them are even humans that kind of look like you Kris."
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>>722614905
He endures a moment of cushionless sitting now, to gain infinite cushion sitting later at home.
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>>722615518
Toby is the ultimate vague shit lover. He will keep everything vague so people can keep writing fanfics.
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>>722615390
Alright
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>>722612020
She just wanted Kris to man up and be rough with her. Sometimes a bro just needs a wing man.
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>>722615879
He learned too much from Zun
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>>722615552
>finds out her first friend is actually possessed by someone, and that the original Kris is working with the Knight
Rough
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>>722615879
>>722616023
I wanted to say. He's still not as bad as ZUN.
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>>722615392
To be fair one is a gagship and the other isn't even canon (He prefers Mettaton x Burgerpants).
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>>722590967
I'm worried about what I'll catch from fucking toriel
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>>722613663
No, she's just being a little cheesy.
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>>722616159
monster aids and those fleas that only live in the pubes
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>>722612020
She was ready to use all her Game & Watch-based pickup lines
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>>722614857
>t. Dess
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>>722616079
I think we know more about Reimu than we know about any UT/DR Hooman
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>>722616417
No? We literally know more about why Chara and Frisk went to Mt Ebott than we do about why Reimu became the Hakurei Shrine Maiden.
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>>722616137
>In chapter 5, Nice Cream Guy will get cucked by Mettaton (Forma de Hapstablook)
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>>722616530
we're hinted for chara; asriel only assumes for frisk
Reimu was born in her position, is not detailed but is an answer
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>>722616678
>Reimu was born in her position, i
I've literally heard multiple people argue she wasn't and it was never actually revealed.
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>>722616238
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>>722616776
Worst or BEST love confession.
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haven't watched the anniversary stream yet, am i missing out
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>>722616678
>we're hinted for chara;
Unironically:
>He really hated humanity
Is more information than we ever got about Reimu's view on literally anything.
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>>722615550
same as it ever was...
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>>722616817
Kinda yeah, it's more for fun.
But if you don't have 12 hours I get maybe watching a highlight reel or something.
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>>722616728
As far as i remember there are some mentions of reimu as the descendant of the hakurei or the bloodline of the hakurei, would have to dig for it though
Still it is not a position, since she doesn't get any benefit from any god, it is her natural powers manifesting most of the time and her death would mean the end of gensokyo
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I will NEVER play Touhou YOU CAN’T MAKE ME
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>>722616042
i wish the signs didn't point to kris caring about her. the only thing that would make this spicier would be that the friendship was completely one sided and the real kris has always despised her because of the bullying
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>>722616972
Is someone forcing you?
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>>722582206
>it's another episode of deltatroons using non-canon, off model, made up fanart proportions and depictions of characters to excuse their pedophilia and manchild-behavior and obsession with a game made for literal children
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>>722616817
It confirmed FemHumans so it was peak.
It actually didn't because Toby will keep things vague forever but it's fun to shitpost about.
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>>722616805
Mac and cheese is good, so I'd say it's a damn fine confession.
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>>722617163
Yeah man, that's pretty cool. I wanna fuck Susie.
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>>722617163
Oi, Deltarune is rated T. its a game made for literal TEENAGERS, thank you very much.
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>>722606252
Dess would have ruined both their lives with a teen pregnancy. Gaster and FRIEND saved Asriel's ass.
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>>722616946
> there are some mentions of reimu as the descendant of the hakurei or the bloodline of the hakurei,
She actually ISN'T referred to as the descendant of a previous Hakurei shrine maiden at any point.

>or the bloodline of the hakurei,
That is mentioned... in Story of Eastern Wonderland.

>Still it is not a position
Some minor dialogue from Aya in Silent Sinner in Blue actually implies that it is and she can be easily replaced. Now, granted, it's POSSIBLE that was just Aya being wrong about stuff but literally nobody else seems all that bothered.

>and her death would mean the end of gensokyo
That's actually a myth that got spread by tv trope. Despite it being viewed as canon for the longest time, after looking into it there is basically zero evidence for it.

Overall, the BEST argument you can make for Reimu being born into it is that we recently saw a old Hakurei Shrine Maiden and she vaguely looked like Reimu. Everything else is weirdly vague because ZUN can't ever decide on anything and it's genuinly hard to tell if PC-98 stuff is still canon.

>>722616972
Games are fun but ZUN can't write a likeable character to save his life. He created a race of always chaotic evil races on par morally with the Dark Eldar from Warhammer 40K by accident. His protagonists are literally accessories to mass murder.
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>>722617413
while noelle watches
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>>722616862
Reimu is an OP incompetent shrine maiden that doesn't know the name of the god of her shirne, she has the job of balancing gensokyo, maintaining the barrier, keeping the humans safe and the youkais beaten up or calm enough, she wants money but she is not very popular with humans to get it constantly, she likes to laze and drink herself like everyone, she believes is her right to bully (stealing and beating) youkai, but she wont kill them unless they are a danger to the balance, she thinks nothing of the gods and see onis as bothersome to deal with, besides some stupid small desires she is contempt with her life
Due to the age of the franchise we have been shown plenty of her in the form of small comments and actions, expect for her past that zun refuses to elaborate on
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>>722617014
They are saving that for Dess never caring about Kris.
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>>722617254
I like it, though I typically ate it with ham and cheese. Also a few onions added.
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>>722585974
Monsters desire human partners
is there any ralsei x female human self insert art out there?
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>>722617704
>Spoiler
I would actually be shocked if there is. I'd be even more shocked if it's standard missionary and no kinky shit.
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>>722617479
>aya
Just like all the heads of the religions being all bossy until reimu arrives to kick them out
They are all big and mean until reimu arrives, or that is how it should be, now some goat is too much
>That's actually a myth that got spread by tv trope
Maybe within the danmaku rules or one of the encyclopedia kind of books, i remember reading that not only youkai don't want to end up dead in a random duel but some comment about reimu having an unfair advantage because youkai wont dare to kill her
And why the purity gal was theme was so important, because her danmaku wasn't to be the prettiest gal, but she actually wanted to kill the opponent
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>>722610429
I hope (you) team up with susie and ralsei go hunt down the traitor kris
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>>722617540
>Reimu is an OP incompetent shrine maiden that doesn't know the name of the god of her shirne
She's actually very competent as a shrine maiden. This is just a confusing cultural thing, shrine maidens not knowing about their god is normal in Shinto.

>she has the job of balancing gensokyo
Nope. Her job is to keep the balance aimed totally towards Youkai. She literally keeps all of the human villagers trapped against their will and is a accessory to the mass murder of outsiders. The whole balance thing is outdated PMISS Lore, and even back then it was debatable.

>keeping the humans safe and the youkais beaten up or calm enoug
If she wanted to keep the humans safe she wouldn't support the barrier. Like I said, she's a accessory to mass murder.

>she wants money but she is not very popular with humans to get it constantly
She's literally the only person in the human village other than Marisa who does anything about Youkai and is called for every minor issue.

>Due to the age of the franchise we have been shown plenty of her in the form of small comments and actions
Like I said: The issue is we don't know her views on anything. If you read her character on the surface she's a a inhuman sociopathic monster who sold out the entire human village. Pretending to be their ally while keeping them locked up like livestock and ensuring that thousands of outsiders get slaughtered. I doubt that is the intent though. Does she care about Gensokyo? Don't know. What is her views on her job? Don't know. Does she care about human lives? Probably not. Does she care about youkai lives? Also probably not. Is she doing this out of duty to her family? Don't know. Does she want to do this? Don't know. Does she have any drive at all? Don't know. Then why is she okay with murder? Don't know.
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>>722618068
>Just like all the heads of the religions being all bossy until reimu arrives to kick them out
It's possible, but the issue is we don't know. There are implications Reimu could be murdered and Gensokyo would suffer no issue and she would be easily replaced.

>Maybe within the danmaku rules or one of the encyclopedia kind of books
The Danmaku rules as described in PMISS are BASICALLY non canon going by recent manga. PMISS in general is mostly non canon nowadays.

> i remember reading that not only youkai don't want to end up dead in a random duel but some comment about reimu having an unfair advantage because youkai wont dare to kill her
Yes, but then sometimes it's also indicated she could beat everybody if she actually tried. Then the manga shows she's actually pretty weak and even when dealing with a opponent who literally wants her dead she mostly doesn't do shit.
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So as it turns out Yagi's not online today so I can't even ask. Damn.
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>>722617163
Seethe.
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>>722618197
Tye god of the shrine is pissed that it is forgotten as stated in wild and horned hermit

WHERE does it say that they are trapped and forced to stay??

There is an interview with zun where he claims that people live safe enough (he wouldnt like to live there due to the lack of tech)

She is called but not paid for her services, or at least not in coin, sometimes they gift her something

Also what mass murder?? That is way out of proportion
She cares enough to be friendly with everyone but is stated she doesnt have preferences for anyone hence why the powerful youkai feel comfortable around her, but everytime the topic comes out she claims to be on the side of humanity
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>>722618532
Eh, there's always next time and if you fuck up someone else can pick up the pen and talk to him, other than me, I'm not gonna do it
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>>722618789
>Tye god of the shrine is pissed that it is forgotten as stated in wild and horned hermit
Yes, I remember that bit as well. It's... odd. Like I said, in every other regard Wahh actually shows Reimu to be very competent at her job.

>WHERE does it say that they are trapped and forced to stay??
The part where there's a giant barrier in the way that they can't pass through.

>There is an interview with zun where he claims that people live safe enough (he wouldnt like to live there due to the lack of tech)
He also stated they have living conditions on par with late Edo Japan. Which would put them slightly below North Korea and slightly above the Gaza strip.

>She is called but not paid for her services, or at least not in coin, sometimes they gift her something
I agree, but my point is that's her choice. Reimu is literally never shown actually wanting for anything. Despite all the poor memes she's closer to a spoiled rich girl that doesn't put enough value on money to actually save up.

>Also what mass murder
Yukari is responsible for mass murdering outsiders by dropping them in gensokyo to get torn apart by Youkai.

>but everytime the topic comes out she claims to be on the side of humanity
Yet, again, she's keeping them all trapped against their will and is a accessory to mass murder. Is she actually a liar? Does she genuinly believe this? We don't know.

Chara genuinly hating humanity is more clarification than we ever got about anything Reimu felt about anything.
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>>722618453
>recent manga.
Wich one? The satori one? There are a lot of non danmaku that feel within the boundaries still if you consider the how fights happen in the fighting games
Saying reimu is weak after all she has done is ridiculous, she can become intangible and still attack, she can break any seal, and all her attacks are for dealing with youkai and other inhuman beings
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>>722619248
Almost all of them. Besides Sillent Sinner there are zero mentions of the spellcard system as described in PMISS.

> she can become intangible and still attack
We've seen zero examples of that and even when dealing with a Oni that literally wanted to kill her and was winning she didn't use it.

Her biggest feat was instant killing fortune teller.



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