>couldn't even outsell mario kart in it's first week in the uk>barely 5k sold in Japan>only 2k online in Steam and down to 121 on the top chartswhy did it flop? it was supposed to kill Mario Kart?
The nick and mc reps turned me off.
Miku and Sage were a mistake
>>722568461Compared to Mario Kart this is literal shovelware. But the Nintendo Derangement Syndrome market is quite large, so this game probably still made a profit. The target audience of this game is literally the people who watch Nintendo outrage videos and SEGA actually paid a lot of those creators to shill this game. Of course no one will actually play it long term because it isn’t fun, and it’s just a clone of MK8 deluxe but worse.
>>722568461Because it's yet another sonic racing game whoop dee doo. Only Nintendo is capable of actually making good games so I have no idea why others even try.
>>722568461Seg -ACK! Is the laughing stock of the industry.
>>722568461It failed because it's not fun as a casual couch party game, which is why most people play Mario Kart at all. It's easier to pick up and play, everyone knows who the characters are, what the items do and how to drift.
>>722568703Nah they're fine. Now Joker is a fucking joke, nobody cares about P5 anymore yet they keep shoving it into every fucking crossover they can. At least fucking use Morgana, he actually would've fit perfectly in the game.
>>722568708>>722568771>>722569540>>722570045But quite literally everyone is saying crossworlds is more fun, on every site.Mario Kart is outselling it due to a combination of Sonic's poor reputation and being bundled with the Switch 2.
>>722570418>muh fun
>>722570418What are these sites? And is this your first time reading people write their opinions on something new they purchased?
>>722568461it's Transformed without the passion
Sega i know you are reading this. I will simply not buy a Sonic racing game in which they do not run but drive cars. What a braindead decision. Also give me a Sonic game like skate or tony hawk but with running instead. K thx.
>>722570418They are either shills or delusional
>>722568461Don't make it $70 and put more effort into Sonic + Sega characters and less into collabsMissing the Switch 2 on release seems like a mistake too
>>722568461It's just the typical cycle repeating again:>new game that competes with (insert nintendo game)>"This game is better than (insert nintendo game here) it's gonna get btfo">(youtubers and terminal online fags doing memes videos in favor of (game) and against (insert nintendo game)>game comes out sells bad, reviews are worse than (insert nintendo game) and gets forgotten in a week>repeatI like the game and all but marketing your game a x killer has been proven multiple times that it kills your game.
>>722568708>>722568708But enough about Mario kart world
>>722570418Remember this is a tendie thread and of course theres bias
>>722568461Never go the *insert successful game series here* killer route. If your game can't live up to that, it's dead.
>>722568461>less single player content than transformed>eschews fun SEGA characters at launch for literal baby nicktoons nonsense (even if they’re coming later, we don’t know how deep they’ll go compared to the kino of stuff like AGES)>multiplayer focused with events that cater to meta comp fags desperately trying to climb ladders instead of just having fun >all sonic reps are safe cringe shit like the deadly six instead of mighty and ray and bark>$70-90 admission
AH FUCK I MISSED MIGUso who's the next event racer, Itchybuns or jokahbaby? ill just plat the game until then and drown my sorrows.
>>722568461>shitposting so desperately now to try to claim its at 2K on steamYet you can't point out a single kart racing game that has sold better than this on steam, curious!
>>722568461And yet Sonic fanboys and Mario haters keep shilling it as "Mario Kart killer". Lol.
>>722570418>But quite literally everyone is saying crossworlds is more fun, on every site.By "literally everyone" you mean shills that spam their shilling all the time, like they do with many over shitty, overshilled games like Celeste?
>>722568461Sonic Crossworlds is fucking garbage. So is Sega. Companies should be sued for using astroturfing and spamming bots to con gamers into buying trash, even if only 500 people got conned into buying that garbage.
>>722568461does this game have no single player content? like the different modes transformed has?
I thought crossworlds was supposed flop? Why did the mario kart /v/eekend thread archive at 170 posts while the crossworld ones are still going?
I shant buy Sonic Crossworlds when Mario Kart World exists
>>722577025mario post peach's ass
Could be worsepic related only unlocks 19 characters from a roster of over 100. Oh, while it's 10 to unlock, you need 200 to level up
>>722568461game is really fucking expensiveshame, because it looks good, but I can't justify the price tagNo regional pricing kills it outside of europe/usa, but for /v/ this is probably a good thingSega really is the master of shooting itself in the foot
>>722576963Don't need /v/ to find a lobby on MK, sorry your game is so dead you're forced to play with fags here I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
>>722568461It's ridiculous that Sonic needs a vehicle to run.
>>722577703>game is really fucking expensiveThis. The fact that it's almost $100 if you want the game and dlc is ludicrous. The only saving grace is that it will absolutely go on sale sooner rather than later.
>game prides itself on crossoverslop>all the crossover characters are unvoiced and don't have interesting interactions with SonicWhat's the point?
>>722568461They overpriced this like crazy and they probably did it hoping it'd sell during the holidays but there's great new Nintendo games so I doubt casuals or families would buy it. I'd rather buy games like black ops 7 or RDR2 if they're a similar price. SEGA can't compete with the big games
>>722570418>everyone is saying crossworlds is more fun, on every siteThe type of person into games enough to go onto a website and talk about them with strangers is both a very different and significantly smaller demographic compared to Mario Kart's target audience(s)
>>722578784>but there's great new Nintendo gamesSuch as?
>>722579195Get out of /v/ casual
>>722570418reddit/neogaf/iconera/social media is plagued by sony fanboys. It's full of them and they talk shit constantly but in the end they buy Nintendo anyways nowadays because they know they're not gonna get Nintendo games on Playstation. Nintendo fans also complain all the time and then there's all the poorfags on PC who only pirate/emulate who are pissed Switch 2 isn't hackable
>>722568461>Mario Kart outsells Sonic CrossworldsYeah, no shit. MK8D sold over 60 million units. It's a massive fucking brand and its bundled with most Switch 2s. Doesn't mean that Mario Kart is now better than Sonic. The fact that Crossworld threads can easily hit the bump limit where Mario Kart threads can't break 200 post should tell you what the reputations of the two games areThis game would be selling better if it was $60
https://www.nintendolife.com/features/opinion-sonic-racing-crossworlds-mario-kart-world-and-its-not-even-close-for-me
>>722568461sonic racing games peaked at first ridersit's all downhill from there, and crossworlds is the lowest point since sonic r
>>722570140I still don't understand why the refuse to use any of the demons as a Megaten rep. Like just grab a Jack bro and call it good. Hell if it has to be P5, Mona or the owl from that mobileshit game would fit in better with all the Sonic characters.
Some Sonicfags bear such a huge chip on their shoulders, if it gets any bigger, they'll get crushed to death by it. t. never playing Mario Kart World
they should've brought all star transformations back
>>722568461The game is fucking jank.It completely lacks polishI also wish it was fully dedicated to sonic.Also the tracks look visually like shit.Modern sonic tracks have no visual identity Woulda had more success just making tracks off of old sonic game zones art direction.
>>722579515The All-Stars duology and R are good.
>>722577025I come to these threads just to see the mario dancing post.
>>722579421True but the game having more skill expression and tight gameplay is deffinitly why mario kart is better than crosswords.
Competitive pricing only works when the games are seen as substitudes. Sonic is not seen as a substitude for Mario. Even reviewers who praise the game over Mario Kart concede this. "two cakes" is cope, that's not how marketing and sales work.That said it's on track to sell 6.5M copies because of bundles and deep price cuts.
The tribalism marketing strategy only works when the brand power is big enough.Mario kart are beaten the test of time. Sonics racing career has not.So instead of pushing away your potential market with Mk bad you shoulda just focused on making your game better.People who play kart racers likely enjoy mario kart more but would be willing to try cross worlds but now it's about red vs blue and look at that most chose red.
>>722568461>why did it flopAll the games content isn't out until next year. No reason to buy now
Sonic tracks are somehow less interesting than intermissions
>>722580981Contemporary gaming makes me wretch
>>722580981Only decent collabs are pac man and Megaman.TV shit is garbage.
>>722568461>no steam chart to proof itwheres the steam chart?
>>722568461Objectively our sonic kart game is better than the tendies' one because Rouge is in it.
I can't believe I came last after a guy called Miku's Pussy...
The roster is such a downgrade from Transformed because it doesn't have any of the cool Sega characters. I know DLC is a thing but it still should have launched with at least one or two of them as a sign of goodwill, but as it is, this roster just screams "this is not for you".
>>722581065haha penis
>>722581172It's actually just below 3k.It's doing great!
>>722581415>but it still should have launched with at least one or two of themIt did
>>722581415That track already looks visibly more pretty than anything in crossworlds
>>722581492Once they add team fort 2 heavy weapons guy back into the game the playerbase will skyrocket, you'll see!
>>722581492You could just said that below 10k is terrible for a big IP triple A release, but no you had to start talking about the lowest point which only makes you look worse.
>>722568461>What is bundle >>722576963Because tendies project and they are the actual shills
>>722568461Team Sonic Racing sold 3.5m copies.It probably did fine.
>>722581561No.
>>722581634??? It's doing great anon.
>>722568708Nah Mario Kart has a lot of goodwill to it and holds the genre with an Iron Fist, but now with a third challenger in Kirby Air Riders entering the race soon, it will be interesting to see how that does and Nintendo juggling it along with MKW.
I don't think I ever saw a single person excited for this shit that wasn't a die-hard Sonic fan salty about MKW.It's like that Nickelodeon Smash knockoff all over again.
>>722581657I'm actually going to take the bet that Crossworlds will sell worse. They are being very sheepish about sharing any sales numbers and the price is ludicrous. They are also not bundling it with other Sonic games, which helped boost TSR.Just a disaster of a launch overall. Its last chance is if the Switch 2 crowd buy it en masse during that release in December.
>The paid DLC is all garbage outside of Mega Man and Pac Man>The free DLC is FOMO at its worst
>>722581876Its more like tendies are mindless drones that follow the brand because it is the brand.
>>722581937Yeah that's why it doesn't have much players. People would rather spend their money on Silksong, Hades 2 or even BL4, so there was no room for a $70 blue hedgehog racing game with xbox 360 graphics.
>>722577025Holy forced Soul
>>722581234
>>722581876I think air riders will do well but I still don't think it will be a big competitor.Kirbys roster is just less iconic than mario.Also air riders real attraction is the free roam stuff
>>722580981>last paid content is nick slop>free content is front loaded with the heavy hittersshit is going to fall off hard after Megaman
>>722581876I'm gonna get it day 1. Really curious to see how it does, I think people underestimate Kirby though, that franchise has grown quite a lot
>>722582121>people would rather spend on their money on the socially approved games the FOTM hivemind has directed them to purchase
>>722582316Air Ride's racing was dogshit.Its honestly closer to a battle royale game, not saying its a bad thing, its fun.But its not a Kart racer.>>722582006I think game sales are going to be down across the board, the price hike Nintendo did isn't really sustainable given how shit the economy has been.
>>722568461When I tried the demo, the game could not go beyond 60 frames, it felt a bit blurry despite adjusting the settings, but also the keyboard controls were awful and could not be edited, like a dev tried to sabotage the game.Someone told me that the next day they added the key binding editor, but probably most people don't know this and dropped the game.>>722580981This is pretty much like the early access syndrome.
and how are you going to play with these sale numbers?
>>722582559Or maybe those games just give more value to the customer. It just seems weird spending 70 on something like that unless you're a fan.
>>722582559or idk maybe MKW, Silksong snd Hades 2 are all better games Sometimes good games sell
>sales!Ok but I like the game so who cares?
And how Silksong, Borderlands 4 and Hades 2 are selling in Japan?
>>722568559I don't understand anyone under 40 having this opinion when the previous best Sonic racing game had Wreck-It Ralph, Danica Patrick, and Yogscast.CrossWorlds' roster is better than Transformed.
They are heavily marketing this game with all the dlc stuff which makes the whole package fucking $90 lmao.
The only evidence of it flopping is "i feel like it"
>>722583543At least with Sonic I know more content is coming when I spend 85 bucks, and I know they're not going to charge me any more for it when it arrives, unlike a certain other kart racer.
>>722583859Hope you're ready for a $30 season pass 2 if Crossworlds does well enough.
>>722583052I do because online will be dead and I'll be forced to wait hours in a discord ti find a room
>sonic crossworlds announces dlc before release>celebration>pokemon za announces dlc before release>out rageHmmmmmmmmmmm
>>722581248i cant believe shes holding all that sass
>>722584539The Pokemon outrage is so bizarre to me considering they've done dlc expansions for the past 2 gens now. Is it really that abhorrent for them to say "dlc is coming. Buy now if you want to"?
>>722584739I don't get it either since it's slated for late January
>>722578784
>>722583440??? I don't like those characters either.
>>722568461Segay's pozz is catching up to them:https://techxplore.com/news/2024-01-japan-world-game.htmlHopefully their other upcoming games flop just as hard.
We just got week 2's sales. It's dropped meteorically below even GTA V, a decade old game.It is so over. The game flopped. End of story.
>>722579421>SpoilerI remember that other advertisement that dunked on the SNES for being expensive while the Genesis was cheaper and even came bundled with Sonic 1 but Sega doesn’t have that power anymore sadly
>>722585107>Mogged by not 1, not 2, but 3 Mario gamesHAHAHAHA
>>722584539the pokemon dlc outrage is due to having starter mons being locked for release until competitions are done. they should be free normally
Wanna know what’s worse? Sega is bringing back the shitty Olympic Games this time without Mario. I don’t understand their fascination with the damn Olympics, and it could eat into other possible spinoff games for Sonic. I feel like the only one who is NOT excited for this. Let the shit die a hero.
>>722585107>SMG 1 and 2>ports of ancient Wii games barely touched up for seventy bucks>third placeFucking grim. The people deserve the buttfucking Nintendo is going to continue giving them. Literally what can stop them at this point? They have armies of fans from multiple generations who will buy anything they shit out without hesitation. Are they the definition of an invincible company?
>>722585307That's not even important as Mega Stones can't be sent to Champions, where they'll be far more relevant.
>>722585332they removed the only reason why we want those games. now its just another sonic spinoff. no more interactions or remixes
>>722568461If the game was £40,and £50 for the ultimate I'd buy. Even with my epic games store cashback credit it is not worth £66 for the ultimate edition. The game is not that good. I'd cop it for Forza horizon 6 though.
>>722585353Tendies are the new Disney Adults.
>>722581065At least we have things to look forward to in Crossworlds, MKW has NOTHING to look forward to in the future. All it had was a head start in being released earlier and being a new installment in over a decade.
>>722585304Also Bananza made by the 3D Mario team kek
>>722584440That's every game after like two years, I don't care.
>>722585439it is if you want mega greninja as the game releases
Just give me a damn Sonic Fighting Game already
>>722585107>>722585304>>722585353Is this Japan only again like last time
>>722584440I'm sure you will be able to find 12 racers online at any given time on a multiplatform release with crossplay support.I can still find populated lobbies in CTR for the fucking Switch as of last year, it'll be fine.
>>722585107Kek, this is completely indefensible. This is going under TSR lifetime sales.Say goodbye to any more Sonic racing games.
Why does /v/ go for JP and UK but never American sales.
They should have waited to have it day-and-date on Switch 2 at launch. If they had, I'm certain that would have been where it sold the most.It might have been better for them to just delay it to next year, to get a little farther out from Mario Kart.Also add bikes. People like those.
>>722585107>last week “SONIC DESTROYED DONKEY KONG”>this week Sonic tumbles harder than any game on the chart while DK holdsDK is so fracking back bros
>>722586158They haven't published any yet. They are likely embarrassing too, they were quick to announce Shadow Generations' sales.
>>722586385Honest question but are these physical sales or are digital sales included
>>72256846170 bucks is a bit much. I'll probably get it for my nephew at Christmas, but good luck getting 4 or more friends to shell out that kind of money for a sonic anything.
>>722584616Wave got the Booty and Curves
>>722585570i'd say they're worse than disney adults. disney adults at least have some form of standards, even if they are horrifically low. no one's watching their latest slop and even when they do it gets forgotten about in a week because not even they can defend it. nintendo adults will buy literally anything and everything with the nintendo brand on it no matter how terrible it is or how jacked up the prices are and will relentlessly shill it for months.
Let this be a reminder to Sonic fans: the quality of the games is completely irrelevant, they could make a GOTY contender Sonic game, but Mario is the default choice and always will be. The battle was lost in the 90s.Crossworlds had the perfect opportunity to dethrone MKW and they still couldn't manage it.
>>722585332They already did a solo Sonic Olympic game but it was mobile only and no one game a fuck. The only reason these games were full releases was because of Nintendo and the only reason was because of the crossover element. This is waste of time for everyone with Mario
>>722568461Did better than the Mario Galaxy flop kek
>>722586475Physical, which if anything makes it even worse. Where the fuck are people still buying GTA V physically?
>>722568708This entire post is deranged and the saddest thing is the poster doesn't even realize it.
Just post pics of Amy and Peach and be done with it.
>>722586589no more crossovers
>>722586586>Crossworlds had the perfect opportunity to dethrone MKW and they still couldn't manage it.It literally did by being objectively more fun. If sales were a deciding factor for a game's quality then I guess the silent hill remakes are masterpieces based on that argument.
>>722586668Wait wait wait so all this time we've been shitposting using PHYSICAL sales? Even though crossworld has apparently been selling madly DIGITALLY?
>>722586586>Crossworlds had the perfect opportunity to dethrone MKWWith bundle MKW was $50, Sonic with DLC is like $100. And everyone knows Mario Kart will stay alive forever, I've played that crap in the middle of the night and morning and still got players
>>722568461The price and most people were turned off by the console war crap. I know quite a few who didn't like the whole "festival" gimmick from the network test as well. This whole game wasn't handled well. It's a shame though the core is good, but it's ruined by a lot of little thing.
>>722586880Crossovers are what is keeping the Sonic Spin offs alive at this point
>>722568461I don't think anyone with a brain thought it would outsell fucking Mario Kart. What we did say was that it would be a better game than MKW. And it is.
>>722585107T-two cakes! A...Am I right sonicbros?!
>>722583440Wreck-it ralph was a pretty big deal, and danica patrick was being pushed as a huge women's racer/icon. I know it's cringe now, but they were better than the nick crap. Yogscast was only on pc if I remember correctly.
>>722586998>selling madly digitallyThere is literally zero evidence of this. If anything there is more evidence of the opposite.
>>722586998Nah, It never even topped psn, steam or the eshop. At least it made it to number 4 on switch.
>>722568461>barely 5k sold in JapanShadow The Hedgehog is going to be our Little Mac of smash 6, a character liked by most western fans as a fighter but disliked by fans in Japan.
>>722587401It was top 10 on PSN
This game mind broke Tendies lmao
>>722587473That means nothing dude. Even suicide squad reached number 1 on there for a little bit. Sonic didn't. It was always behind even sports crap on there.
The sales faggotry for Crossworlds is quite peculiar. Has a Sonic game ever outsold a Mario game? Why are people bringing up sales between the 2 franchises now? But fuck the console war shit flinging, I'm just happy Sonic is back to having consisntely good games again. Nintendo fans will happily buy Nintendo branded cardboard, their games are always guaranteed to sell well.
>>722587047>I know quite a few who didn't like the whole "festival" gimmick from the network test as well.I know they just had a Miku event and I wanna know if any of the stuff you could unlock will be available again? I don't want to get the game if there's going to be a bunch of limited time shit.
>>722586158US charts only come once a month, are quite behind and never give concrete numbers. We're due one this week for August.
>>722587635If sonicfags hadn't spammed the board for weeks saying crossworlds was going to kill mkw nobody would have cared.
>>722587635Nah, It's not "peculiar" it's just a little telling. They were quick to publish the Shadow generations numbers, yet it's been silence since release.
>>722587297Yes>>722587401https://x.com/AllCristina2/status/1931156852743536668?t=5Eg8xUtSlkN4BFIxcIvXYQ&s=19https://x.com/AllCristina2/status/1970295897062863308?t=42mYNWmUh7y2fXYp6WcRbw&s=19
>>722568461Cars handle like trash, soundtrack is the worst earrape dogshit.Presentation and graphics look "cheap", "off".SART2 still the best sega racer
>>722587554Yep lol
>>722587659>if any of the stuff you could unlock will be available again?No.
>>722585968No, this format is UK chart.
>>722587756>shit that never happened
>UK Sharts I mean charts:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQi2vLlporA
>>722587787Sonic frontiers and generations did reach top 10 in the us. What a stupid twitter post. I'm not against the game. It just didn't do so well dude.
>>722587635>"Fuck the console war shitflinging">"Also Nintendo fans are retarded"Don't act like you're above shitflinging.
>>722587635Because it's definitive proof that Sonic will never break into the mainstream.
>>722586158US numbers are once a month and they are total. They include digital sales, but only when companies agree to tell them the digital numbers. This means SOME of the games include digital numbers while others don't. I wish they just showed two charts. One for physical, and another for whatever digital numbers they can gather.
>>722568703sure, and I'll make plenty of mistake with them
>>722587659They're saying "maybe". I wouldn't bother. The game is fun, but the way it's played isn't fun. Everyone bags and waits for the last bend. That determines the whole race.
>>722587970*total bullshit
>>722587942I just stated a a fact, Nintendo fans will buy Nintendo branded cardboard.
>>722587942Sonic fans and Mario fans are both retarded.
>>722568461It's ridiculously expensive in UK, shit's over $100 with DLC
>>722568703I don't want to sound like a bitter old man since I have a soft spot for Miku, but considering how annoying modern Miku fans are coupled with how a good 80% of discussion around Crossworlds is centered around Miku makes me wish she never got put in.
>>722588090Holy Kek
>>722588090Okay, so you don't intend on adding anything of value to this discussion? I love sonic and It's just interesting seeing the game come and go like this. You can tell they had more in mind for it seeing how they made it an online first racer.
>>722587635Because there were like 2 months of YouTubers, journos and terminally online people talking about how MK World was dead and how Sonic would destroy be the new de facto Kart racer. Now people with brains knew this was hyperbolic but then SEGA went full retardant and played into it.
>>722588179I've been a miku fag since the supercell days and I hate the new "fans". Like all things these people will leave soon
>>722587883Bull fucking shit. You are downright delusional, but you're also a sonicfag so I shouldn't be surprised
Do we have any digital sales outside of UK and Nip land and no don't pull out that steam chart stuck between your ass cheeks I know you want to.
>>722583440Don't like them either.
>>722588209Wasn't a complaint for the last racing game that Sega didn't support it at all? Seems Sega is rectifying that im Crossworlds.
>>722587659>*Gadgets obtainable in Festivals may be distributed to players via future updates.>*The method for receiving Festival rewards may change in future events.You already know they are coming back to write these two things in advance, but they want to create fomo in the present over it.
>>722584739Pokemon fanbase has been infected with a sick autism for a long time due to how a lot of westerners hate DQ gameplay but it went nuclear after the Gen 8 dex cut, now there’s a bunch of people who think if they can force people to hate the new games GF will have to bend the knee
>>722588364Not even Japan shares digital. Not sure about the UK either. Some companies just strait up don't share their digital numbers anywhere
Still buying Crossworlds
>>722583440>I don't understand anyone under 40 having this opinion when the previous best Sonic racing game had Wreck-It Ralph, Danica Patrick, and Yogscast.And Billy Hatcher, Aiai, Ulala, B.D. Joe, Alex Kidd and other characters from Sega's history, most of them with the base game instead of being held hostage at the back of the boxart.Representation-wise, Team Sonic Racing was a massive downgrade and CW is more of the same. Imagine if you got a multi-series kart racer a-la Smash Bros, but for the next installment what you're getting is a roster of Mario characters, obscure villains like Mr.L and token bad music characters like the Wii Music conductor or some shit; thatt's the dish you're lapping up at the moment.
>>722568461>Caring this muchIt's fun and it's better than what we got in the 2010's. Still wrong though btw
>>722588432It's fine I guess. The lack of a story or good single player content is what hurts it's value. At least in my mind. Nobody should have to pay 70$ for an online racer. Even crash was 40$ and that had a great single player mode.
>>722568461If Rouge's tits are censored I won't buy. Simple as.
>>722588445It all reads like a fucking gacha game.
>>722587635>Has a Sonic game ever outsold a Mario game?That’s the problem, fans gloat about sales but not gameplay and game quality which are arguably more important
>>722574319This one is actually better in every way though. Most issues the game has can be fixed with mods, while Mkw has a laundry list of shit to fix and it would still be hard to go back to even if the did since sonic exists. Personally I think they should forget about expanding on mkw and just make a new Mario kart.
>>722588579The high price is a very valid complaint of the game. I will say that having free dlc characters and vehicles for a whole year is really nice. To be honest I like the single player in Crossworlds but I can see how it can be lacking also. A big factor of why i bought the game waa crossplay. It makes steamchart faggotry be a non-factor
>>722588853People already returned though. The race mode is very active since they added more tracks into rotation. Even if they don't want to admit it. They are listening to feedback
>>722588209>Rouge thread hitting Bump Limit during Spooktober Month>>722491776Lovely!
>>722588637
>>722588914The steam charts are worrying. I was playing with my nephew yesterday and it was taking us 40-50 seconds to find a race nearing the end of the festival.
>>722588830Sonic's game quality is all over the fucking place.
>>722588984>does the salsa dancemaybe shadow was right
>>722588984>That slight jiggle.That's a mod. I refuse to believe Sega would be based enough to do that.
>>722588984I don't give a shit about mods.>>722589121It is.
>>722589121
>>722585307That's not dlc. That's online play.People were getting mad about dlc
>>722568461For me its>I like what I played in the demo, but it's not worth $70 bones>I DON'T care for the Nick reps, you should have started off with game reps like Megaman>and no physical PS4 version, I'm not shelling out for a PS5 or Switch 2
>>722588540This, Crossworld has so much cut content for such a insanely high price it's hilarious
>>722588993Thats worrying?
>>722585107>Share of sales on PS5 decreased to 51% while Switch increased to 35%Looks like it's going to have longer legs on the Nintendo platform as well kek
>>722585739This will be like a month for corss worlds.
>>722589316It takes us 10-20 seconds top for mario kart world, and that's only on switch 2. Crossworld is fully crossplay
>>722586158We only post what we are giving retard.
what other game allow me to do THIS?
>>722588853The player base is still strong tho. I often get 18-22 racers even when I play at 2 am. If anything it has shown to me the for some reason casuals like the Route tracks because whenever I play and there is a traditional track available the selection is almost always 60-40. The biggest test for MK will be the next DLC
>>722570418Every single reviews are crying about how much they hate Mario Kart World, they don't actually give a shit about sonic.It's always>10/10 fuck nintendo>10/10 please nintendo give me 3 laps back>10/10 perfect to play while not playing mario kart>10/10 thank you sega for the free copy, I'm having a blast, this is a true return to form
>>722586893Being jank and slippery ain't fun
>>722585332>No more Mario and Sonic at the Olympics>the closest we got to a crossover with them>pretty much the MAIN SELLING POINT>just nothing more than a Sonic mini game collectionI mean, the previous ones were that too, but again, it was the whole "two worlds meet" that made it fun. Well never get lines like this again.
>>722589391I still think finding a match in under a minute for any game is fine. No need to worry about Crossworlds taking longer than MKW. The game won't be unplayable in a few months and I'm certain more people will pick it up when it goes on sale too.
>>722589287I bought a new Switch 1 copy for $49 on eBay and I'll be able to upgrade it for $10 when the Switch 2 edition releases. You could look into that if you want to buy physical.
>>722585936Even that mockup roster is better than Crossworlds, just throw in Sage and maybe a surprise addition and we're set.
>>722588830>sonic>game qualityThey all feel like mobile games
>>722579421Yeah, I love it but it's over priced. I said wait for 25% off on my Steam review despite clocking 30 hours.
>>722589756In fairness with every game trying to be Fortnite and having crossovers out the ass Mario and Sonic at the Olympics doesn't really feel all that special anymore. Like even in Sonic Racing we have fucking Nickelodeon characters for no reason.
>>722589965Is it getting an upgrade pack. Sega has been real retarded with that recently
>>722585332They're just announcing they got the Olympics brand back. They haven't even said they're developing a game yet, the initial announcement only mentions merchandising.Obviously a game will come, but my point is that it's too early to say whether it will be Sonic-only.
>>722583543Sonic always sells best on Nintendo. Thus why Sega was willing to cripple Frontiers to get it running on the Switch.
>>722583440I don't like those characters either dude
>>722590115>Is it getting an upgrade pack?Yeah, SEGA confirmed it's getting one. I think SEGA learned their lesson from their Switch 2 launch games selling like shit. They even delayed the Switch 2 release because it's going to be a real physical release and not a Game Key Card.
>Sonic fans laugh at Mario Kart for not including 200cc in World.>Crossworlds version of 200cc isn't available to play online.
>>722568461it lives in your head-free, that has to be worth something
why do people think that crossworlds is better than mkw? the handling is shit and doesn't feel good, I've tried it on PC, Switch 2 and Series S and it doesn't feel good on any of them. I'm expecting Garfield Kart 2 to play better unironically
>>722590320While I appreciate it. That might have hurt it's sales. Unless it's 70$ for the complete edition on switch 2 then I just won't care at this point. It'll be cheaper on other platforms.
>>722590094Sonic and Mario will always work better than Sonic and other media because of the history. Like the Nick slop is flopping even for normies because the there is no real link outside of Paramount made the Sonic movie. Mario and Sonic have been intertwined in a way since Sonic was made and after Sega dropped out the fanbase merged in a way tho Mario remains much larger because Nintendo wasn’t as retarded as Sega. Mario and Sonic together on a cover means much more than Sonic and SpongeBob
>>722590428Garfield Kart 2 even has the phantom ruby as an item. Sonic crossworlds has no themed items outside of the dumb wisps.
>>722590428Maybe you're just retarded. It feels great.
>>722576316>b-but muh steam is good actually>bad sales? AIEEE SAVE ME GARFIELD KART LOW PLAYERS
>>722590443Why not just buy a switch 1 copy for cheap and then buy the upgrade pack? That's going to be a cheaper option.
>>722581656Maybe Sega should bundle their game with their console... Oh wait!
>>722590443The only way I see it making a Splash on Switch is for it to be released with whatever sales price the have for it during Black Friday and that Nintendo holds true and discontinues the MK bundles after Pokemon. Any other scenario and the game is getting drowned by Mario
>>722590528>maybe you're retardedit feels worse than MKDD-MKW, All-Stars Transformed, CTR and is only mildly better than Garfield Kart - Furious Racing
>>722579421>autists don't like this game, that means it has a worse reputation!
>>722590518About half the items are Sonic themed>Shield is based on Unleashed night stages>Green gloves are from All Stars Racing>King Boom Boo is SA2
>>722590802Autists are literally the lifeblood of these kinds of franchises. Losing them is a big market to lose.
>>722590428because a racing game is more than your subjective view of how handling works.If you can't separate your personal views from a product you will never be a journalist.
>>722590486>Like the Nick slop is flopping even for normies because the there is no real link outside of ParamountI would also add that none of the extra characters have voice lines, I'm not talking Rival interactions, just straight up no voices at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vms3AjKVcUFor CARTOON characters to not have any voice works is so dumb, they don't even have SB doing his signature laugh.
>>722590736I thought that too, and then I played the demo for more than one race.
>>722585687>well actually it's good that there's no content, that means the game I payed 70 dollars for can wait in my hard drive doing nothing!
Why are mariofags so insecure?
>>722590528It feels like slippery ice
>>722585332I guess someone had to be green
>>722582112It's more like Sonicfags are annoying as fuck and nobody actually like the modern series.
>>722591037Don't start shit you can't finish
>>722585332Olympics are le good tho
>>722590910>If you can't separate your personal views from a product you will never be a journalist.it's a good thing I'm not a journalist then>>722590936yeah so did I across multiple platforms as I mentioned beforehand thinking it was potentially a framerate issue on Switch (2) and then it was still shit on Series S and then also on PC.
>>722591037I'm a huge sonic guy and this whole mess has been more embarrassing from that perspective. The amount of console waring and vs mario crap was sad.
>>722585332They must have really struggled when deciding which character to put on the green line. There's no one besides Jet.
>>722590924You reckon it's because the Nickelodeon VA's are expensive to hire? I don't doubt Tom kenny being cheap to have.
>>722591149You uniroincally own a snitch tho
>>722591362Manicbros....we were robbed.
>>722585570>>722586581>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T BUY OLD GAMES WITH GOOD GAMEPLAY AND UGLY GRAPHICS!>What? Sonic Racing Crosswords is also a game with good gameplay and ugly graphics?>No, Sonic Good!
>>722591458So what? The game handles like you're driving on a thin layer of oil at all time and I think that takes away from the fun. MKW has better physics but a myriad other problems before you call me a tendie
>>722590924Once again, you have to blame americans for this shit.If they didn't waste money dubbing their games this wouldn't be a problem. One voice actor per character for entire world, you don't need more.Base game:Sonic with JP seijuusThen release an ameriturd DLC with americunt's VAsIt's that simple, squeeze those americans for all their worth.
>>722588530Flirting>>722577025Sexual Harassment
>>722587554>>722587831>samefagging Segafags, this is your bro?
>>722591557It's actual ugly and bad gameplay
>>722588090And Sonicfags will slurp all over the most mediocre Sonic games like 06.
>>722591610The real problem here is that you, as a tendie, unironically believe your character doing a homosexual little jump before drifting is GOOD handling. You're a living joke for having this opinion. Just the drift makes the sonic game's handling so much better, it even differentiates between inner and outer drifting. MK is NOT a car game.
>>722590407Why state an untruth?
>30 second queue times even during peak players>festival gimmick kinda sucked>game is even less skill-dependent than mario karti want to like the game but there's a lot going against it
>>722589030You could say, Sonic’s Quality is a Roller Coaster
>>722568461>$70>Network stress test ERROR 2-7-1's all fucking testing periodNo wonder people skipped if they couldn't even FUCKING TRY THE GODDAMN THING and see if it was worth the $70 ($70 games NEVER are, BTW).
>>722591848This isn't the own you think it is, since Nintendo fans have been doing the same thing since 1990.
>>722591848Now anon, the only people that even remotely defend 06 are those that were 5 when they played it and have too much nostalgia for it.
>>722591240Imagine the smell from that rail..
>>722592037What do you think the purpose of doing a test is? You sound like those guys that do participation prizes.
>>722591943>Gay projection out of nowhere
>>722589531Every Masterpiece has its Cheap Copy
>>722592160>projection
>>722592051>uh Super Mario World is actually bad you know?Wow, and I suppose you have some choice words to describe it?
>>722592201Yeah, projection. Why are you calling others homosexual for jumping?Is Crash Nitro Kart also gay to you for having hop drifts?
>>722581657>>722582006Crossworlds was probably much cheaper to make though. It reeks of a budget title, plus the agreement with Viacom for the Nickelodeon characters means they'll probably make money no matter how little it sells.I'm sure the underselling is disappointing to the bigwigs but I'd bet they calculated the production costs such that they're turning a profit or the losses don't matter regardless.
>>722592127>What do you think the purpose of doing a test is?WELL YES, IT'S TO TEST... which... I COULDN'T FUCKING DO BECAUSE>Error 2-1-7No fucking troubleshooting message, no fucking error log on your drive to at least try to LOGIN TO THEIR SHITTY ONLINE SERVERS and resolve.Which reminds me:>Online only DRMNo thank you.
>>722592243>mario is the only game in Nintendo's catalog
>>722590142And before anyone mentions they could add deep cut Sonic characters since it’s Sonic focusedNope, they’ll prioritize the Zeti before any deep cut Sonic character, you can bet on that, we’re already seeing it happen in Crossworlds
>>722568461>couldn't even outsell mario kart in it's first week in the ukIn its 2nd week it's fell to like #12 and is just barely above Mario Kart 8. Mario Kart 8 is probably going to outsell Sonic Racing Crossworlds this year even if you just started counting MK8 sales from Sonic Crossworld's launch date. Mario Kart World has probably already sold more now than Crossworlds ever will, even when SEGA inevitably give it 80-90% discounts out of desperation.
>>722592341its furry shit so yes
>>722592528It'll sell like team sonic racing did. In the discount bin or bundled.
>>722592441To test. Are tests suppose to have a 100% success rate?
>>722590094>In fairness with every game trying to be Fortnite and having crossovers out the ass Mario and Sonic at the Olympics doesn't really feel all that special anymore.Hardest Truth Nuke in the thread
>>722592457If you're not talking about Super Mario World, then what are you talking about?
>>722592539>sonic the king of furry shit is not gay because there are no jumps
>>722592528What causes an anon to be this bootyblasted over a blue hedgehog?
>>722592686Wikipedia it. Super Mario World wasn't even out in 1990, not even its console was out.
>>722592656Fuck Mario Kart World nixing all guest characters does more to make it stand out.
>>722592757Correct.
>>722568708It's not like mario karts sales are heavily boosted by being bundled with the console or anything during it's launch.
>>722589531Someone should edit rosalina to be sonic
How legit is this doomposting over the games sales? Don't tell me I wasted 70 bucks on this shit if its online population dies in a month.
>>722591037>Why are mariofags so insecure?You should’ve seen Fire Emblem fans when non-fans reacted negatively to their game ending off a direct. They have a big victim complex
>>722590609Hey troglodyte, the claim is this game flopped by typical steam charts faggotry.Except it has the best all time peak out of all kart racers on steam even with it's price and additionally being on Nintendo, Xbox and Playstation.Despite what this means with consideration that everyone is in agreement that Sonic sells best on Nintendo or consoles in general you will hold on for dear life onto physical sales data to exclaim it flopped.
>>722593382>5k on Nintendo Switchif that's Sonic's best I'd hate to see its worst lmao
>>722593315It is legit. Unless they fix bagging and maybe revamp festival crap it will die soon. But you're a fucking retard you actually bought it for 70 bucks lmao
>>722590094So, go play Team Sonic Racing.
>>722591136Shut up
>>722593315It literally is selling lower than several decade-old games.
>>722593382mkw sold 30k copies in Japan alone and outsold cw in the UK toocw had a peak of 13k players on Steam wordlwide and it just keeps getting lowerlet that sink in
>>722577025I'm begging you PLEASE buy it already. Nintendo needs your money.
>>722568461I think everyone wants to play it, but no one can afford it. Sega was testing the limits of how much people were willing to pay for a video game, and they got burned.
>>722591362MOTHERFUCKING SURGE or even Zeena for the funny
>>722593727>>722593469Not only do you have reading problems but also maybe attempt having a higher brain capacity to understand lower than Mario Kart sales does not mean it flopped as was the claim.
>>722592819Guess characters suck
>>722591363That's true, but unless there's some contract that Nick can't just reuse lines without Kenny and the other's approval, it's just off.
>>722592656This is a very insightful and accurate comment.These kind of crossovers seem really detrimental to a brand in the long run though. Sonic Crossworlds doesn't really feel like a Sonic game so even though I'm a Sonic fan it doesn't appeal to me, and I'm guessing people that like the other characters probably aren't willing to drop almost $100 just because that one character is in the game too.Just like with Fortnite I'm guessing there's a lot of advertising dollars changing hands behind the scenes regardless of sales.
>>722594070That image amuses me, thanks for posting it.
>>722587838>>722585107>No, this format is UK chart.I think people don't get just how bad that is. The UK was the one place where SEGA and Sonic was undeniably more popular than Mario back in the early 90. If it's doing that bad in the UK then SEGA have fucked up.
>>722592819There weren’t even that many guest characters in 8 Deluxe
>>722592806Yes it was. I bet you're only saying this because you can't actually name any Nintendo game that you find mediocre.
I love Rouge so god damn much.
>>722592946Incorrect.
>>722593382Why are you acting as if barely being above literal shovelware is something to be proud of? If this game was the whole 9 yards, it would be hitting 50k at the very least.
Minecraft DLC content comes out at October 9th.
>>722592539so is Sonic
>>722593948>it didn't flop... Despite having a big marketing campaign that amounted to low numbers!Ok dude, if it didn't flop, why isn't Sega showing numbers?Both MGS Delta and Silent Hill F got sales pretty quickly. This didn't.
>>722592539>its furry shit
>>722595159Holy crap that’s the same month Steve was announced for Smash 5 years ago
>>722568461Japan doesn't count for Sonic, most gamers there think he is a Smash character at best. Korone is an exception, she's a westaboo.
>Team Sonic Racing is out>EUUURGH, where are the guests???>Crossworls is out>EEEURGH, what about a game with JUST sonic characters???
>>722595710>A few people are interviewed>IT MEANS EVERYTHING
>>722590887Not really. Autists aren't the people making the big bucks in the industry.
WOW IT COULDN'T OUTSELL MARIO KART IT'S OVER SEGA AND SONIC AND MIKU ARE FUCKING FINISHED
>>722577754>We dont need v!>We NEED Discord!not helping your case there lil tendie.
>>722595048No it wouldn't. I am arguing that on steam doing the best out of any other kart racer is the opposite of a flop, especially with that price. Team Sonic Racing was less than 1K all time peak. Combined with people caring more about Sonic on consoles the expectation is it has done much better elsewhere digitally.
>>722595814more like>EEEURGH, $80 dollars??
>>722568461Everyone who played the demo and shilled for it were too poor to buy Mario Kart, of course they are also too poor to buy the $70 racer with a $30 DLC pass.
>>722585332The Olympics are actually the only franchise Japanese people know Sonic from, see >>722595710 and pic related >>722595898Nine real data points is more than no data point (you)
Too jewish. Not only does the game cost $90 to get the game as advertised, Sega is drip feeding the characters so it'll probably be 6 months before the current revealed shit is added. I'll get it in a year when the complete version costs $20.
>>722595898Try the performance of every entry besides Frontiers over there, all of them flopped.
>>722596794just like any game beside mario and Dragon Quest
>>722595710>>722596697Same goes with Dragon Quest in the west.
>>722596850The japanese gaming market is healthier than the uk one. That's a bad example you gave there.
>>722596070Don't need shitcord either, unless you want your lobby to be entirely composed of tranny compfags I suppose. I just press Online Play and I'm in a full lobby within seconds.
>>722574319Palworld raped S/V dales lol.
>>722585332>Wanna know what’s worse? Sega is bringing back the shitty Olympic Games this time without Mario. I don’t understand their fascination with the damn Olympics, and it could eat into other possible spinoff games for Sonic. I feel like the only one who is NOT excited for this. Let the shit die a hero.The first Mario & Sonic at the Olympics is Sonic's 2nd best selling game ever and arguably Sonic's most successful game ever if you're not including bundled.Although without Mario, it probably isn't worth shit.
Just dumping the rest of the captures from the vid
>>722597972Who give a shit?
>96% ( Overwhelmingly Positive )That's what I care about
>>722597972It kind of puts in perspective Yuji Naka decision when he originally quit SEGA after Sonic 1, thinking that Nintendo were going to call him up to work for them due to Sonic's success.
>>722598078I've met a few chicks who know sonic. Either from having little brothers, or from ufo catchers.
>>722598487irl, tons of kids have a tshirt or a backpack with Sonic on it.
>>722598487Sorry meant *nip chicks. I'm not surprised he's not popular there. I know quite a few people in otaku circles who last bought and knew sonic from the gamecube era
>>722598551>irl, tons of kids have a tshirt or a backpack with Sonic on it.tons so like 5 Americans?
why does it look like lego racing 2 cover art?
>>722598687nta, but just because someone has a backpack or pin doesn't mean they like the games. It might just be cheap, a gift or maybe they just liked the design. That's a bad metric to go off of
>>722598807yeah, that must be it!!
the roster is just cringe as fuck
>>722568461>talk shit>get hitMany such cases.
>>722598997How so? It's true. Just because someone has a pin or shirt doesn't mean they know or like the thing it's based of off. Are you young or something?
>>722599085Yeah you're so right. For instance, if I wear a ZZtop shirt, that means I have no idea who they are. This is obviously the most logical conclusion.
There’s a bit of a correction needed here. This video is from way before Frontiers was released, and the situation has been changing. In the past, merch would often go unsold, and events had plenty of open spots, but now things are selling out noticeably faster. For us Japanese fans, it’s getting harder to take our time buying and enjoying things. It’s a happy problem to have, though!
>>722599161I know some people who find wrestling faggy yet wear stone cold shirts and other cool designs like that. There is such a small correlation between tshirts=fans of said thing. I'm sure some of the kids wearing stuff like sonic, but how many buy or play the games? Even more so with shirts involving bands and the like
>>722599328But I 1000% agree. Next time you see someone with a maga hat, it's probably because he have no idea who Trump is!
>>722599161You'd be surprised how many people buy t-shirts with things they don't recognize because it was cheap at walmart.
>>722599459C'mon dude, argue in good faith
>>722599476Yeah, me too I buy the pink MLP shirt just because it's $1 cheaper!
>>722599260I don't know. I was there a few months ago and not much changed. I'm glad sonic is getting a little more popular but I don't think he'll ever as "relevant" as he was during the 2000s. Even there.
>>722599657I've seen some lard ass buy like 5 bluey shirts because they had them for 5 for 5$. It happens. No need to get upset. This is just true for most things.
>But MOOOOM, I don't want the tshirt with Sonic because he's cool, I want it because it's cheaper!!
What are we even arguing about anymoreHow do you go from OP to this? Never get tangled with autists, especially Sonic autists.
>>722590428The driving mechanics have far more depth and the track design is completely next level compared to Mario Kart.
>every new character will release on weekends with a festival where you can't play the regular game modeFestivals are going to kill the game. The exact times when old players come back or new players join they have to deal with some bullshit.
>>722600123The shitposting op attracted shitposters? Whoa
>>722600123Mario fans are far more autistic than Sonic fans, let’s be real.
I can't believe people still have Sega Derangement Syndrome after all these yearsPic related woke them up like a sleeper agent and they've been seething since.
>>722600358How's it a shitpost? Did I just dream up all those console war tier threads?
>>722600509>talk shit>get hit>cry
>>722597972>>722598078>>722596697If Sonic is not that popular in his hometown, then why not catering to the west? I mean, where the fuck are these two? SEGA would be swimming in gold if they added them to the lore/game plus more western meme around old school Sonic
Battlefield 6 is unpopular in Japan. I should cancel my preorder then.
>>722600828Because nobody who gives a shit about Scratch and Grounder would actually buy a Sonic game or merchandise with them in it. At least SATAMfags are so delusional to the point of eating up any scraps they get official or not.
>>722597213Odd, because I opened the mario kart /v/eekend thread and it was filled with nothing but trannies calling each other cute. What's with that?
You could have made the argument that Mario vs Sonic was a thing during the SNES/Genesis era, but these last 20 years?Galaxy vs 06Galaxy 2 vs Colors3d World vs Lost WorldOdyssey vs FrontiersWonder vs SuperstarsBananza vs Frontiersand now MKW VS CWEvery single time the Mario team gets the better reception and sales.It's amazing how Sonic fags just don't get tired of this shit lol.
>>722601334Frontiers has better reception than Odyssey, Superstars has better reception than Wonder, and CrossWorlds has better reception than World. Sega’s been turning things around lately.
>>722601603Completely and utterly delusional and I don't even like Odyssey. >>722601334Mario's been boring post Galaxy, but the quality and effort is undeniable compared to Sonic's duct tape freakshows.
>>722601603(You)
>>722593315>"How legit is this doomposting over the games sales?"Not legit. The current charts above only show physical sales in the UK and Japan, which they don’t include digital sales. Would it beat MKW in total (both physical and digital) sales? Nope, never gonna happen. Not because of which gameplay is better, but because:1. Mario is the brand’s mascot, meaning its sales directly correlate with Nintendo’s consoles. (Almost) every time Nintendo releases a new console, it’s always followed by a Mario game.2. There are only TWO legitimate Switch 2 games right now: MKW and Donkey Kong Bananza. So if you’re buying a Switch 2 at this moment, those are basically your only options.3. They fucking bundled the game with the console, so most people buying the system itself would just grab the bundle for the obvious reason above.Crossworld could never, EVER beat MKW in sales, and anyone saying otherwise is just fucking coping.>"if its online population dies in a month."It’s not gonna die. The FOMO and regular updates will keep it alive, plus it’s the most “legit” mascot kart racing game available on PC with an actual portfolio of racing titles behind it.>"But what about Disney Speedstorm and Garfield Kart?"Dogshit, both of them. The latter’s a pure fucking meme shitpost, while the former is way too underwhelming to be a 'legit' mascot racer.
>>722584870Air riders is the only game here that might be good
>>722602621It has to sell more than wii sports or its a flop
>>722600828they would rather give you orbot and cubot
>>722602739Age of calamity had the best combat in the series.I'm looking forward to AOIIt being fully canon is icing too.
>>722594070Didn’t Nick copyright Kenny’s spongebob voice?
>>722593948Do you think sega got those big guest IPs for free or what?
>check Steam reviews>brainless NDS niggerbabble>check forums>filled with complaints about sandbagging, poor online functionality, and FOMO eventsPic related was a near perfect kart racer, why did Sega capitulate to the MK8 babbies who need items to be an "MOM SAYS IT'S MY TURN TO WIN" button?
>>722568461I knew this would happen so I didn't bother.
>>722603303did everyone forgot sonic team racing was a thing?
>>722603303why are people talking about the nintendo ds in the reviews of a kart racer
>>722603053>Age of calamity had the best combat in the seriesBut dropped the ball in literally every other single category>I'm looking forward to AOIYup, just you. You and only you. No one else but you>It being fully canon is icing tooThe fact that this is a selling point when it should be standard is pathetic>”hey, this time they’re NOT gonna replace cannon events with literal fanfiction. Doesn’t that make you wanna spend $70 on it?”
>>722568461Sega fucked up massively with the price. It's as simple as that. People aren't going to spend $70 on a fucking kart racer in this economy, especially when said kart racer is connected to an IP that's gradually recovering from decades of bad games and social media embarrassment. Had they priced it at $40 or $50 dollars, the game would've probably doubled its player count on steam>b-b-but Mario Kart World!Most people got the Switch 2 bundle and Nintendo has been pushing out quality games UNTIL the latter half of the Switch 1's life-cycle. People have yet to realize that their games have also seen a massive decline in quality in recent years, but give it time - that'll eventually come too. Everyone online is now fully aware that MK World is nothing but a lazy, half-baked shovelware game, as one example.
>>722603423Yes, and for good reason. It sucked and no sega characters. You can’t sell a sonic racing game with just sonic, that’s half the reason why crossworlds is doing so much better
>>722600348>Mario Kart World has forced intermission races online>Sonic Racing Crossworlds has forced festival events onlineWill Kirby Air Riders suffer from a feature that is forced into online races?
>>722581065That's either Chao Park or Market Street (can't remember) but in both instances, there is a lot more going on than what the map is showing
>>722603191No, voices can't be under copywrite. If Tom however, used his SB voice FOR SB while having the sponge say a slur like nigger or faggot, Nick could step it then, since THEY own SB as the character, and having the official VA saying such things might make people think Nick itself allowed such an action.Also, tom used the SB voice for the NPCs in Spyro 2, which came out in November of the same year Spongbob first aired (1999).https://youtu.be/L9ePJJp1P8E?si=YvpUqwMnQFkE2xOf&t=3000
>>722595710Same goes for Fire Emblem in the west
>>722582316I don't expect Air Riders to sell well. Most casuals who bought the Switch 2 will probably stick with Mario Kart as their system kart-racer and the $70 price tag won't help either.IMO, the only reason this game exists is because Sakurai blackmailed Nintendo to go through with it, or else he wouldn't work on the next Smash Bros. He's the only major developer left who still has both talent AND soul going for him. All of the others are either talentless hacks or washed up yes-man who've given in to the corporate dollar.
>>722603615>Most people got the Switch 2 bundleThis is what I've mostly seen, almost everyone one I know IRL or have seen online only got MKW via the bundle.
>>722596697>Wolves are coolerIf only she weren’t stuck in IDW Hell
>>722604091Nintendo asked Sakurai to make Air Riders, not the other way around. As explained in the first Direct by Sakurai.I think it's purely for marketting because so many people were spamming for a sequel on all Nintendo's social media so it will make them look good, even if the sales will likely be poor because most people were not that seriously into Air Ride
>>722597972I give a shit about this
>>722599003What about the MVC Infinite Parody Mockup Roster with Sonic characters?
>>722604342Yeah, nah. I find that impossible to believe when Mario Kart already exists as their flagship kart racing game, it just seems cannibalistic on Nintendo's part.I don't even think they're doing it for marketing appeasement for their fans either; else we would've gotten a proper F-Zero game by now.
>>722604482Now do it with the MvCI DLC characters.
>>722604091the Japanese direct alone has 4m views and it's their holidays gameit won't do MK numbers obviously but it's gonna be pretty big
>>722601334What can Sonic fans say? They will jump on any opportunity to brag about outdoing their longtime rival
>Miku festival just ended>Minecraft festival is starting in 2 daysSo that's how they'll keep the game from dying.
>>722585353>Literally what can stop them at this point? They have armies of fans from multiple generations who will buy anything they shit out without hesitation. Are they the definition of an invincible company?They aren't gaining a new generation of gen-alpha fans & gamers with these business practices. IMO they're just milking their millennnial/zoomer/gen x fans for all of their worth before inevitable switch to third party, which IMO is either at the tail end of this gen, or sometime during Switch 3's lifespan. They're probably hoping the movies, theme parks and inevitable TV shows will be enough to pull in new fans but the theme park & movie industries are practically on their death beds now. Eventually this is going to bite them in the ass.
>>722568461segay lost
I love Mario and Sonic and I've enjoyed Crossworlds and World despite their flaws
>>722604918lmao Nintendobros are always being bornt. grew up with the Wii U and 3DS
>>722603998Maybe not copyright, but as far as I know tom can’t use his spongebob voice for anything outside of spongebob cause of Nick. As for the spyro 2 thing the “copyright” or whatever it was happened a lot later, when the show ended up being a ginormous success
>>722603615>Nintendo has been pushing out quality games UNTIL the latter half of the Switch 1's life-cycleimo this is one of those arbitrary narratives whose only basis is that enough other posts here have parroted it beforeMost of the Switch 1's best games have come out in the past ~4 years and with the level of internet hysteria surrounding them right now you would absolutely not hear the end of it if they were to have a year as dry as 2018 (i.e. in the first half of the Switch 1's life cycle) in terms of first party releases
>>722605149>”GuYs ThEy’Re BoTh GoOd”You fags are worse than both sides combined. Nothing of substance, nothing of value
>>722603615They really didn’t learn from SuperSharts huh
>>722601334like frontiers more than odysseylike frontiers morethan bananzacw is objectively better than mkwdoesnt mention shadow gens being better than bowsers furysonic generations was also better than whatever mario equivalent game was going on thenmania which came out the same year as odyssey was also bettersonic racing games have almost always been better than marios aswell.i never played superstars but I honestly wouldnt be surprised if it was better than wonder.im not even saying all of these sonic games are even amazing they're just better than mario and sometimes mario isnt that good.
>>722603563I'm sorry about your sadness.But the action still carried it.
>>722603992Litterally neither of those tracks.The fact that it can be 2 others is telling
>>722568461Gee I dunno maybe because every Sonic game has been fucking garbage for 2 fucking decades.
>>722605282The Switch 2 is expensive, it's making childs, jobless saps and exploited americans seetheThere is a real disconnect happening
flopnic slopworlds lost and got gaped bigly
embarrassing nintendo cocksuckers here as always
>Dreamcasters stay dream casting 25+ years later
>>722604545He litterally explains in the direct that he thought making air riders was pointless when mario kart exists. He even makes a joke about how it's different from mario kart and then just masks off saying it's mario kart.Basically some guy in a higher position who was a fan of that game basically begged him to make it
>>722605932if Twitter represented reality the Switch 2 would be selling pretty poorly right nos
>>722605282Nah, things are different this time around. It seems as though the majority of kids under 14 years of age really do not care for Nintendo. They prefer Roblox, Minecraft, Fortnite, freemium, gacha and live service games they can play on their phones and PC. The Wii-U & DS era of fans consists of zoomers, further proving my point that Nintendo is falling behind at gaining momentum with younger gamers.
>>722604918Lmao peak comedy post anon
>>722597220Palworld flopped so bad it further killed XBox lmao, SV are still selling with Switch 2 faggot.
>>722606392>source: my ass
>>722606392>over 20 million copies sold and it hasn't even left early access>flop??????????????
inspiring Nintendo™ basedchads here as always
>>722605932>people dislike nintendo see? Look at all the NDS seapoors!
>>722606191It's literally flopping though
>>722606582It literally isn’t though
>>722578784The kart racer fans' wallets were already exhausted after paying for a switch 2 bundle for mario kart. They don't have enough money for another kart game this year.
>>722568461ZylpheRenuis was right all along. People refused to listen to his wise words. The price of the game was too high. If it were $30 or $20 at BEST it would've turned a massive profit and playerbase. Sega got too greedy.
Rangeban these 3 fanbases and this board would improve immensely.
>>722607209>palworld They can't have that much of an impact
Why did mods let /biz/ threads kill this board instead of purging them to their respective board years ago?
>>722607378They're the same snoys who shill Sonic CrossWorlds and Digimon. They're steadily ruining the board.
>>722607209This, but Nintendo.
>>722606859It's not that, the Kirby racing game will sell a lot too in my opinion. Sonic is just stale and the Sonic fans are dedicated but they can't compare to the mega franchises out there. With sports games and COD and third party support in general Sonic is competing vs the biggest titles too. On PC it's like who cares, they'll just pirate stuff or wait for deep sales
>>722568461Reminder that people paid $500 to play Mario Kart World. That's how good it is.Sonic Shitway was always nothing but a poor man's Mario Kart Knockoff. Like Crash Troon Racing and fucking SpongeBob
>>722607761>n-no uOkay, Steamsnoy.
>>722607209Why don't you guys just beg for a nintendo board and just stay there?
>got a full lobby with humans under 30 seconds>got a nice, hour long sesh and took a breakWhat is the point of this thread?
Metaphor hitting 80k players on Steam while being a new ip and a single player JRPG it's pretty crazy when this game barely did 13k.
>>722608134It took me 10 minutes to get a room with only 8 humans in it
>>722608134There's tendie that's been seething about crossworlds since the ONT and this is how he copes
>>722608284>n-no don't call CW dispite the weeks long mkw smear campaign
>>722584870And Air Riders is going to be the only good game from your list.
>>722608181It's not crazy. The insane price + Sonic's bad/recovering reputation as a whole, killed the sales potential going for this game.
>>722608134>snoy fantasyThe game is already dead. Nice story though.
>>722568461>$70 without season passassuming the online isnt dead in a year ill pick it up if I see it for $30 with the dlc
>>722608538Also pushing away potential players with the tribal marketing.
>>722608224It's a shame thread ip counter got removed from /v/.
>>722588540>Imagine if you got a multi-series kart racer a-la Smash Bros, but for the next installment what you're getting is a roster of Mario charactersThis is exactly what happened with Mario kart World. We got Link, Inklings, Isabelle, and Villager in 8 and suddenly the newcomers for World are just mooks. >obscure villains like Mr. LBetter than any of the newcomers we actually got in World or will probably ever get from this point forwards. Why is this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>722608720>Better than any of the newcomers we actually got in World or will probably ever get from this point forwards. Why is this supposed to be a bad thing?Ewwww.
>>722568461I was mildly interested but the idea of playing against spongebob in a spongebob map or having anything to do with random ass cartoons just gives me shivers down my spineI want to play a video fucking game without crossover shit, but that seems quite the demanding task in modern games
>>722568461Segays always lose.
>>722608603Nah, if anything the tribal marketing increased exposure and sales.
>>722608971for mkw lmao
>>722608682Anecdotal evidence is a bitch ain't it?
>>722609282>>722608953>>722608885I'm trans, btw.
>>722608971Nah pushing away all the people who play mkw is retarded.
>but its bettet than MKWShieeeeeeet
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>>722609486>luigi meansa.....nothing to me
>>722568461what else could you expect from nintendr*nes? they flock to nintendo's shit games and shit consoles no matter what.Sonic all stars racing transformed was the best kart game I played in my life but it doesn't have big N branding, bing bing wahoo or is a nintendo shitcube exclusive.
>>722609406How is it pushing the MK people away when even the most average normies agree that World was a massive disappointment?If anything's pushing them away, t's the fucking ridiculous $70 price tag and $30 DLC.
>>722609963>even the most massive normalsNormals don't engage in video game media online and that's also 90% of the consumer base.So anything you saw was deffinitly not a normie
>>722609404We don't talk about ourselves while quoting random posts here, tranny.
transhog sistas…
>>722579421>>Mario Kart outsells Sonic Crossworlds>Doesn't mean that Mario Kart is now better than SonicMario kart was always better than Sonic. People constantly comicfagging and modfagging (which automatically confirms the base game isn't enough for them) and seething about Mario in a crossworlds thread to bump limit doesn't prove anything.
why the fuck aren't there motorcycles
>>722568461because its just a variant of mp grind slopgames are just choosing what repetitive gameplay for a game pass/rank grind you wantdespite being racing its competition is more than just that
>forest>the jump into ring shortcut>guy hits me making me fall and falls himself as well>same goes does this again later with the same result>we both place lastsome people just want to drag you to hell with them
>>722611154Was this guy a hawk?
>>722568461>Shills: "it's cheaper than MKW!">$70 + $20 DLC>Shills: "b-but sega will put on sale!!">Less than 5k people are playing it right now and it'll be even less when the honeymoon phase is over>Shills: "B-BUT IT'S BETTER THAN MARIO KART BECAUSE IT HAS SPONGEBOB AND STEVE! ITS THE SMASH BROS OF KART RACING!!"This game has been a total shitshow that I kinda feel bad
>>722611315no, metal fagnic
>>722611357>$20 DLCIn what region? It's $30 in America.
>start getting 11th places>losing pointsfucking niggers stop bagging the monster trucks
>>722611595It's $20 if you buy the digital deluxe. I didn't know the DLC by itself is $30, my bad
>>722610851Extreme gear
>>722611474Close enough
>>722568708you're deranged. I just like kart racers, man. I bought this one because I beat MKW at a friends house. Don't really want a switch2 yet.MarioKart8D was a peak game, sure. MKW is a bit of a downgrade, It felt ok to skip it. Mario misses sometimes. MarioKart 7 fucking sucked and I stand by that.SASASRT during PS3 was great too. Sumo made the Outrun games. Their output touches greatness once you learn the way the cars handle (its nothing like mariokart but thats ok its juts a learning curve, do time trials) wait do you seriously believe the game is a "clone"? That is so braindead. It really isn't.I love racing. Crash Bandicoot of all things had a better kart racer than anyone last gen.>muh what is evryone else saying?>muh ign scores>muh social media hype>muh sony nintendo tribalismYOURE ALL NPCs kill yourselvesalso. Fuck ROSTERFAGGING SECONDARIES I fucking hate you people. "The converation is about miku now! minecraft steve doesnt fit. Sonic should run instead of be in a car :Pyou're like NPCs. I hate all of you.
>>722612418Calm down anon
My wife Wave.
>>722613378>he is right, plus ur black
>>722612418based bandicoot
>>722612418BandiCHAD once again showing everyone who is da real Kart Chief.
>>722612418based anon mk7 is good tho
>>722612418Crash is back babyyy, sonic cultists BTFO
>>722612418Tendies BTFO
>>722568461Idk the roster sucks ass? I would say price but even digimon is doing extremely well so my first theory is shot.
>>722615675Digimon is for incels tho, ever considered that?
Lol you guys are just spouting random bullshit to see who takes the baitStay classy 4chan /v/
>>722607209You know damn well people shitpostibg in the name of Palworld are just snoys leaching out of the name to make beef with Nintendo
>>722602621Agree, but only Garfield Kart is dogshit (catshit)
