"This game sucks""I enjoyed it""No you didn't. You were a kid when you played it."Genuinely how do you respond to this?
Ecelebs don't belong here
>>722571665The topics not really about him.
every game is ultimately the same thing, you will have limited resources that replenish over time, and your opponent will have limited resources that replenish over time, be it ammo, mana, hp, cooldowns, items, etc, because it wouldn't make for a game if you could deal infinite damage nonstop and had infinite hp forever while your opponent also had 100% uptime on infinite damage and hp, what would even be the point?so at the end of the day every game is just "deal as much damage to the enemy as you can during your turn, and avoid taking as much damage as you can on their turn" every game is just an iteration of this, if you figured one game out you figured every game out, if you were an avid gamer you figured this out by the time you were like 20, past that the only point in playing games is looking at hot anime chicks and reading stories
Pat stares at a BBC
>>722571752Play more games, I'm begging you.
>"This game sucks">"I enjoyed it"The correct answer (supposing the game did suck) would be "yes, and?" along with "your standards are low [perhaps because you WERE a child and didn't know better]" or "it does this one thing really well so can't blame you if you really really like that one thing, but it simply is a poorly crafted game" or some such
I also love e-celebs, I'm watching Usetsu nowhttps://www.twitch.tv/usetsuu
>>722571804name 1 game that this doesn't apply to, aside from movie games where you just press a button to progress the movie
>>722571494I think /v/ needs a refresherhttps://flashmuseum.org/binkys-facts-and-opinions/
>>722571715then why post the Pic?
>>722571808I feel like this should be true but it gets grating when people look at you like this every time you support it. Perhaps my standards are low because I can enjoy some media deemed as too awful in the public eye. I know people hate Bioshock Infinite and Suicide Squad but I had fun with them and everytime I said that I get talked down too like I'm a retard."Oh you enjoyed Bioshock Infinite because you didn't play enough immersive sims.""You liked the new Superman because you don't understand Superman."It just gets grating.>>722571975Because they are one example of someone who says this. But sentiment that is repeated in other people as well. I'm not really talking about the person.
>>722571494if hes talking about ffx then hes right that shit is ass
>>722572062>Upset about being looked at like a retard.>Type like this.Maybe I am a retard. Jesus Christ. >>722572119He's talking about Bioshock Infinite. You'll probably agree with him too.
>>722571808>>722571494Actually, that didn't quite answer the question. "I" already went wrong with "I enjoyed it", but a comeback from here would be something like>Right. To be fair it's a poorly-crafted game, but it does x,y,z [for reasons p,q,r] better than any game made before and since, and since I do really care about x,y,z, that excuses many ills and makes it a game worth playing to this day, and a game that is worth playing is, in fact, "good">Sorry, I made a category error. What I meant to say is that the game does in fact not suck, among other things for reasons p,q,r>Let's get to that later. Why do you think it sucks exactly?>Perhaps [although I'm not so sure]. Given that you've played it recently while I haven't, maybe I'm misremembering how good it actually was. I would have to replay it again to properly answer to the criticisms laid out
>>722571494I mean, it's true. If 90% of old, critically acclaimed games were released for the first time today, you'd think they were shit.
>>722571889>First issue is "She is a girl"Oof, this aged like a fine wine.
>>722571494If you actually did play it as a kid, then you have no comeback. It's so fucking over for you and your entire bloodline.
>>722571494Sorry he didn't like Banjo
>>722571752You're an idiot.
>This game sucks>No
>>722571494I replayed it recently and it had fun.>YOU DIDN'T AKSHULLY ENJOY IT!Deez nuts.
>>722571752Life's the same, first birth, then le death. Why bother?
>>722571494>Ah yes, kids famously can not enjoy anything. Great insight!
>>722571494I said I enjoyed it, not that that I enjoy it, dumbfuck
>>722571494>Genuinely how do you respond to this?i don't. why would i? i don't care what anyone thinks about what i enjoy or not.>that means i'm right!sure my man, if that's what you want to believe then have at it
>>722571494And you're a grown ass adult. Think about that.
>>722571882Pong
>>722571494I have enjoyed most games I replayed from my childhood
Is this fat fuck not dead yet?
>>722572252I didn't play Banjo as a kid. When I grew up I decided to give it a try because people loved it. I turned it off at the first "You need x amount of jiggies to continue."I feel like it's because I'm lazier now because I remember enjoying the Spyro series.
>>722571494>filtered
>>722572384It still applies, you and your opponent both have limited "lives", it's just not presented like you would expect. Each time you make a score, you're actually knocking off a point from your opponent's HP until you reach the target score, effectively making your opponent's life points zero
>>722572414I bet I would but I don't play them because they'd remind me of my dad. Maybe in a decade.
>>722572162>being anything approaching a "kid" when Bioshock infinite came out*Visceral disgust.
>>722571975Yet irrelevant lust provoking images are more accepted
>>722571494>don't tell me what I enjoy and what I don't, fatso
>>722571975Some OPs are afraid their topics arent interesting enough and resort to lust provoking images to get people to click.
>>722572445That's literally before the first level.That's how the game works.
>>722571882myst
>>722572463So what about all the other gay shit you mentioned?
>>722572162>He's talking about Bioshock Infinite.I didn't "grow up" with it. The game somehow managed to not deliver on any of its marketing and play significantly worse than both of its prequels.>>722571494Playing along with the context I'd bring up the fact that even as a child I'd already started to develop, while nascent, a subjective opinion not wholly without merit when objectively looking at something. And, have since becoming an adult gone back and confirmed that many of the titles I enjoyed were in fact superb examples of their genre.
>>722572253>>722572303no arguments detected>>722572384pong is an absolute textbook prime example of it lmao, you have your turn where you're throwing the ball and try to damage your opponent, then the opponent has their turn where they throw the ball and you try to minimise the damage you take, I imagined you'd try to think of a game with no conflict, like a game about drawing or something where the point is just artistic expression and not a battle of any kind between different sides, so in that case I'd have to consneed that artsy fartsy games are also video games, where no fighting occurs so technically there are games where it doesn't apply, but then I'd just say that I'll just add the condition that any game with competition or fighting is the same and follow the same exact pattern
>>722571494"No, I weren't"
>>722572414yes but thats largely due to nostalgia. you have to have a level of self awareness to recognise what games are actually good and what games you just enjoy because you played them as a kid, and i think most people just dont have that self awareness. for example, i love sonic adventure 2, but i also recognise that its objectively dogshit. i also loved super smash bros melee, but i can tell that that was actually good. i loved pokemon, but that shit is ass (the core battle mechanics are good, but the games as a whole suck dick), i loved rayman 2, and i think that its actually a good 3d platformer, but honestly i find it hard to tell if im blinded by my nostalgia on that one.
>>722572445>I turned it off at the first "You need x amount of jiggies to continue."What are you expecting? To walk straight to the last boss?
>>722571494"Why is a child's enjoyment worth less than an adults?"
>>722571752That's true, games really are just clever ways of slowing down progression in a way that's fun. I made this realization while playing Dragon Quest that most RPGs are just games that have you beat monsters X amount of times so you can beat stronger monsters X amount of times and repeat. The bosses are just bottlenecks/stat checks to make sure you can handle the next area of monsters>>722572628I'm a different anon, but he's still not wrong? It doesn't take a genius to figure out what games are at their core
>>722571494Just because something is bad or isn't as good as something else doesn't mean it can't be liked. Objective good and opinions or feelings aren't the same thing. People like bad movies and books all the time. So if I wasn't allowed to like something because it kind of sucks then how would we be friends.
>>722572162>He's talking about Bioshock Infinite.>generic as fuck gameplay>no meaningful decisions>white people bad>dogshit worldbuilding and story>YOU WERE THE BAD GUY ALL ALONG KILL YOURSELF TO ATONE FOR ITit was always bad
>>722572676Me having fun = game good.People who want to distill some science of good game design are insufferable, and couldn't make something fun if they tried.
>played SM64 as kid and adult>enjoyed it both timesProblem?
>>722571752This ignores qualitative realities and inescapable of subjectivity of the human experience. It's sort of like saying walking from point A to point B is the same regardless if you're walking through pristine countryside with perfect weather vs a snowstorm where you're freezing your balls off.
>>722572734I mean, I said it was shit in 2013 too.Bioshock 2 is the good one.
>>722571494ftm tranny? fuck is that bodytype?
>>722572637There is no damage to "minimize" in Pong. Every goal is worth the same, regardless of how its gotten.
>>722572779At the end of the day you're still just going from point A to point B, one is just more enjoyable than the other
>>722572627with puzzle games I'd say you'd have to consider what a puzzle game looks like when it's pvp, you'd have to solve a puzzle in a given amount of time before your opponent solves it, there will be parts of a puzzle that are easy to solve, so you'll want to create an advantage there and there'll be hard parts where you want to reduce your losses, already creating the same scenario, now why would this not apply to a single player puzzle game? you want to save time where the puzzle is easy and you want to reduce losses where it's hard, because ultimately you're on a timer regardless
>>722572695>>722572602I have no retort. In the moment I just went "I can't do this."Perhaps I'll try it another day.
>>722572736this is why you're simply too stupid to join in on the conversation. children find it fun rolling around in mud, that doesnt mean its a good activity. i enjoy eating a frozen pizza, that doesn't mean its good food. you're outing yourself as a tasteless npc with no inner monologue, and thats fine, but please dont try and join in with these conversations that require a higher order of thinking.
>>722571494if you, in this situation, dont go back and play it again as an adult with an open rational mind then he won.9/10 times, hes right, and the game was shit, and you was just basking in nostalgia.
>>722572786>Bioshock 2 is the good one.>the only one Ken Levine was not involved inFunny how that worked out avtuakly
>>722571494>i don't listen to fat """people"""there
>>722572821>one is just more enjoyable than the otherYes, that's the point of the topic. You will obviously prefer to walk through pleasant weather over the painful cold. Same with any game you play. The experience is different and long term impact upon you personal well being, too. So, they're not in fact the same thing. But, objectively different.
>>722572878Shut the fuck up. Castlevania 2 is good.
>>722572903The original Bioshock is pretty good, too. Second game is basically just a rip off of the first.
>>722572965The second game basically takes the ideas from the first game, and makes something a lot more solid and substantial out of them.Defensive plasmids actually having some functionality because they included tower defense gameplay, for example. Levine was too much of a hack to think of that.
>>722572851>actually you have limited resources in myst because at some point you will die irl
>>722572942sure, maybe it is, ive never played it. but its apparent that you lack the skills necessary to recognise your own biases and make a proper judgement on it.
Does he still blatantly look up spoilers before he plays games so he can appear smarter?
>>722572728I mean that isn't exactly my point, people can evaluate how fun a game's iterations are but ultimately they iterate on the same core concept "deal damage on your turn, be defensive when it's not your turn">>722572779if you want to use metaphors then how about a FOOD METAPHOR, it's like eating a hamburger, and you can have different sauces or buns, add or not add tomato and pickles, but ultimately you are just eating a hamburger>>722572804there's either losing a point or not losing a point, you want to lose points on your turn as little as possible, why are you even trying to nitpick about fucking pong, it's the most straightforward turn based game ever, at least myst was a decent counterexample because it has to go through multiple abstractions before you find the turn based core under it, with pong it's literally just hit your opponent on your turn, and don't get hit on their turn, it's the most straightforward turn based game structure ever
>>722572851anon tell your doctor to increase the dosageor halve it, don't really know but eveidently something is not right
>>722573040I would like to see his fully realized Bioshock Infinite. Instead of the retarded budget cut version we ended up with. Hack or not, "idea guys" and "artsy' types can sometimes deliver on pretty amazing IP's when not involved with the actual system development.
>>722572878it is a video game, the point of a video game is to be entertaining
>>722573062well yeah, you can't play a game forever, literally, if the competition in a game is speedruns like racing and puzzle pvp games, then the limiting factor is time, which is always a limiting factor
>>722573142>if you want to use metaphors then how about a FOOD METAPHOR, it's like eating a hamburger, and you can have different sauces or buns, add or not add tomato and pickles, but ultimately you are just eating a hamburgerBut, I had breakfast this morning.
>>722571494I played games I hated as a kid too, dummy.
>>722573220what does pvp have to do with it, you said every game
>>722573129He's a piece of subhuman shit, and that makes him worth watching, sometimes.
>>722572162>He's talking about Bioshock Infinite. You'll probably agree with him too.I do. Bioshock Infinite sucked major balls and only CoD/Halo kids "enjoyed" it in any way.
>>722573149no argument yet again, does it hurt your feelings that you spent decades playing games and you can't get past iron on any ladder because you've never figred out how games work?>>722573228where will sally look for the breakfast though
>>722571752Braindead gachafaggot
>>722573267holy molly you're literally 80 IQ, if you can play a game in pvp by turning it into a speedrun and the core concept of turns still applies then why wouldn't it apply in single player as well, you only have so much time to play that game, you're on a time limit just like you would be during a speedrun
>>722572734>Generic gameplayEverytime people say this it amounts to "Only 2 guns. Similar Plasmids. Rails. and Elizabeth infinite ammo. Two things that never bothered me. >No meaningful decisions.Opposed to "Do a 9/11 on children to make this easy game slightly easier" or "Do the obviously right choice and reject the shitty oppressive nature of the environment because you're one of the good ones." There wasn't much choice in the other games either. And that was the point of the first one.>White people badI took that more so as the unchecked isolationist nature of Columbia was doomed to be it's own mini capitalist system where those in power will always oppress those without. When Daisy gets the guns, she has a seemingly better reason for evil but nothing really changes. All that changes is who is doing the opressing.>Dogshit worldbuildingPeople always say this but I didn't get that at al EXCEPT with Burial at Sea where they attempt to make Elizabeth responsible for the entire series.>You were the bad guy all alongI always saw this as the easiest surefire way to make sure Comstuck never existed. Infinite isn't a story about infinite possibilities. It's more so about the things that have to stay the same for the wheels to keep spinning. People hate this ending but they love stuff SMT which have similar endings iirc.
>>722573185the point of pretty much every form of media is to be entertaining. i enjoy reading dumb shit on 4chan, does that mean the shit people post on 4chan is "good"? Is 4chan a better work of literature than citizen kane if i have spent more total time entertained by 4chan than i have by citizen kane? if i find enjoyment in watching both the harry potter movies and pulp fiction does that mean they are both the same quality? they are both entertaining to me and that is where any possible critique of their quality ends?
>>722573419no argument detected, stay mad pleb
>>722573342>where will sally look for the breakfast thoughNot in the Ghetto or Chinatown. That's for sure.
>>722571494I take anything I enjoyed as a kid with a big heaping of salt, yeah. There's still things I enjoy about, say, Medievil, but does it play well? No. Sometimes you go back and it rocks, but if it does you'd probably have more to say than a "I enjoyed it".
>>722573142>with pong it's literally just hit your opponent on your turn, and don't get hit on their turn, it's the most straightforward turn based game structure everYes, notice how it has none of that other gay shit about cooldowns and resource management that a dumb MMObrain like your's thinks applies to all games.
>>722573275People keep saying this but I hate COD and I NEVER played Halo. So I don't get it.
>>722573342>no argument yet againlmao i JUST came into this thread
>>722571975Because this is an eceleb thread
>>722573421your definition does not have a meaning then, you can turn anything into a competition
>>722573501chinatown is the only place where you can get proper food in muttmerica though
>>722573519Halo (2) is a significantly better game than Bioshock Infinite. And, I doubt anyone that played it would enjoy it.
>>722571494Being a kid does not mean I didn't enjoy it and your opinion is subjective so you saying it sucked without any better articulated critiques also doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it
>>722572581I didn't even know ya'll had a hate boner for the guy. Between other people that have said it, he was just the most relevant one with this recent opinion. So I used him as an OP.It's not that deep.
>>722573629I'll take your word for it. I have the Master Chief collections but for whatever reason can't bring myself to start it.
>>722573571The only thing a Cat is going to get in China Town is served on the menu.
>>722573514holy shit you're actually like 80 IQ, shit like pong is the most basic game structure of taking turns, and everyhing else, ammo, hp, mana, cooldowns, etc is an iteration of that, literally never post again, you're lowering everyone's IQs around you>>722573525and you can leave, bye>>722573570well you CAN turn anything into a competition, although there's objective and subjective competitions, a puzzle or a racing game is an objective competition, do you clear the goal in time or not, quite straightforward, but you have subjective competitions, like drawing, singing, sculpting etc, where there's no clear win conditions, and winning is decided by the subjectivity of a jury, I don't think the turn structure applies to subjective competitions or games about art and such, but it applies to anything that has an objective win condition, including puzzles and races
>>722573674You play as either a Sphesss Marine or a WHITE MAN (Space Lizard) fighting against the Jews (smaller space lizards). It's kino.
>>722573421>literally can't comprehend playing a game for reasons other than competitionAnd you're accusing other people of having 80 IQ?
>>722573075Trying to come up with some objective science of game design is cringe, because ultimately it's your opinion against mine.You can say "this game is overly long and unbalanced", but I can say I like that it's overly long and unbalanced, and then there's nowhere left to go except people yelling at each other, which is what online video game discourse always gets reduced to.
>>722573706you're thinking of switzerland
>>722573774Genuinely one of the things that kept me away from Halo was the idea that I had to kill space lizards that just seemed funny and chill to me. But I only know the covenant by osmosis. I'm sure they are assholes too.
>>722573782>I-I-I didn't want to win anywayslmao enjoy being a loser shitter (you won't enjoy it, you're just too stupid to win)
>>722573763you can turn drawing or singing into a speedrun, myst is not a pvp game and no one plays it as such
>>722573519Frankly, CoD is way better than Bioshock Infinite. I have enjoyed my time with CoD well enough. Those games know exactly what they are, and are well made enough.Bioshock Inifnite thinks it's art, and is basically an episode of Rick and Morty (with really mediocre shooting gameplay, to boot).
>>722573874I got to the credits, so I won :)
>>722573640Hate boner? No! Just a regular boner.
>>722572793C*nadian
>>722573850Those are the lesser space lizard, enslaved by the space Jews. You're fighting to liberate them from compound interest.
>>722571494Ok he's kinda right about Bioshock Infinite though. Game is gorgeous and does a good job presenting itself as deep, but the story IS pretty dumb when you think about it at all, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked the gameplay if it wasn't my first FPS ever as a teenager.I don't think it's a terrible game but it's like a 5/10.
>>722573830Legit don't get yer joke.
>>722571494>"This game sucks"That's just like your opinion, man.
>>722573425you can critique games as much as you want, if the game is entertaining to me I don't care if the graphics/music/writing sucks
>>722573916you could, although I don't think that counts as art then, if you say "draw this exact thing in a set amount of time, or hit these exact notes in the song" then that isn't really art, it's just a skillcheck, and then the same turn based structure will apply again, since there will be easy parts of a drawing and a song where you want to gain an advantage, and there'll be hard parts where you want to minimise losses, if it's not a competition evaluating artistic expression but checking skills then the turn structure applies>no one plays it as suchbut you could
>>722574039https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30205410
>>722571494>"This game sucks">"I enjoyed it">"No you didn't. You were a kid when you played it."so what game were Woolie and Pat talking about? knowing how much of a insufferable asshole Pat is, it wouldn't surprise me if he really said that
>>722573798also, that is quite literally the debate around Hollow Knight>It's too big and I got lost!>it's supposed to be too big, and you're supposed to get lost!Que shit slinging.
>>722571494using the >just a kid logic
>>722574003It's fine if people don't like the game. But the idea that your enjoyment isn't valid because you had lower standards kind of rubs me the wrong way coming from a guy whos' entire career hinges on staying current and revisiting old games.
>>722571494You can't. It's the anti-nostalgiafag silver bullet
>>722574059>but you couldhow is "draw a zebra, you have 10 minutes" any different?
>>722574059>but you couldPeople hold art competition, so I guess the rest of your post is moot by your logic.
>>722571494>Genuinely how do you respond to this?I played it for the first time last yeareasy
>>722571494So? Mentally you're still a child too
>>722574108Bioshock Infinite. It's a bad example when it's a game held as one of the worst games of all time. But I still remembered having a lot of fun with it both as a kid and as an adult. Someone brought up that just because you have fun with it doesn't make it a good game which, fair.
>>722574192what's the win condition? if it's artistic expression then it's different because there's no objective win condition, who decides which zebra wins? if the outcome depends on the jury's preferences then it doesn't apply>>722574243>can't read eitherstop posting, 80 IQ nigger
>>722571494correlation ≠ causation, illogical faggotardthen I smack him in the face with my balls
>>722574301>if the outcome depends on the jury's preferences then it doesn't applywhy exactly? you are just making up random shit because you can't admit you are wrong
>>722574301>artistic expression can't be a competitionSounds like the cope of a shitty artist
>>722571494First off, you gotta understand that anyone who talks like this doesn't care what you have to say. Your response doesn't matter if you have a well reasoned argument because anything you say has already been tainted by childhood enjoyment bias.If you care about the conversation and want to win the argument?Just say "Genetic fallacy."What he has to say relies only on the genetic fallacy and no other argument. He's assuming your position is flawed because it comes from the memory of a child, point out his reasoning is flawed because it relies on a fallacy.Americans genuinely don't know how to respond to this, because they're taught "critical literacy" instead of literacy. They can only talk about how they feel, or rather what glowies told them to feel, they don't know how to formulate an argument, so.when you point out their argument is fallacious, it's the perfect way to rage bait them.
>>722574102Rare folk/traditional occurrence vs having an entire industry of special dog houses to lock up your pet so that the locals won't grab it up and eat it.
This is the same guy who can't fathom anyone not enjoying Devil May Cry 1 because "It's the one we grew up with."Not to say it's a bad game but that feels a bit hypocritical. If your enjoyment is based purely on nostalgia then how can you deny someone's' opinion when they don't have that same nostalgia? How do we know that when you replay it, you're actually enjoying it as much as you originally did? In fact you could argue that ANY game you play again will never be as good as the first time you run through it.
>>722574370cuz there's no objective win condition, this is very easy to understand, you're either a legit retard or try to argue in bad faith, I'm thinking the latter since you try to go into pilpul about fringe cases from the get go instead of addressing that in principle my statement are right, you are acting like a faggot jew>>722574381you're playing semantics like a jew now, artistic expression can be a competition, but it won't be an objective one
>>722571665We need an e-celeb board but it's not allowed because we would 90% be accurate about how faggoty most of them are. They are the new priest class so the jews that own this website won't allow it.Funny thing is societies collapsing and that always leads to jew explusion.
>>722571494"well yeah, when i was a kid the game was totally new and no other game was doing what this game did at the time, its been 30 years since then, so of course new games have done it better since, you aren't currently enjoying the games you like now, because in 30 years when everything is full dive VR you'll look back and think Claire obscure and silk song were dogshit, and they probably are."
>>722574461>i-i-it's different because uhhhh china bad and I'm racistshalom lmao
>>722571882Mario, Puzzle games, Simcity, Age of Empires
>>722571494By posting your one inch penis.
>>722574484so now the definition of a game is just that there is a win condition?
>>722571494I just stop talking to people when I find out they're retarded.
>>722571494He was in the right in the podcast about might number 9 and Liam was being a shithead
>>722574420This is why I don't argue with Americans.An American with a university degree is not as composed and well spoken as an Irish high school graduate, and the Irish are fucking giga stupid.And genuinely they cannot comprehend facts that don't respect their worldview.>Well I don't feel like that's true.Nobody fucking asked how you feel, Amerinigger. Go hire jeet or some shit, adults are talking.
>>722574532>Scale of issue is vastly different per demographic/racial group>It's the sameSo, you conflate some ancient folk traditions getting practiced once in a blue moon by isolated individuals vs majority of a national demographic actually making owning pets virtually impossible in their country?
>>722574624>more semanticscriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiingejewishcriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge
>>722573129>>722571494Rewatching their lps, I am shocked that there are a dozen times Pat looks up stuff and then tries to nonchalantly bring it up to Mat and Woolie to appear smart. That is beyond sad. As a smart person, I've NEVER thought of doing that because it's just weird.Pat is kind of an asshole because he's cartoonishly small so that stuck with him since high school days, but a lot of stuff he could have grown up past but hasn't.I'm sad they never played Elden Ring, Sekiro, or GoW5.
>>722574169Yeah, it's like saying you should still hold up teletubbies as "good" just because you giggled and clapped your hands when you watched it as a toddler. Kids/Young people have low standards and will eat shit given to them all the time.
>>722574646He was also right about superman
>>722574598Paige has to suck that once a week.
>>722571494"I replayed it as an adult and found that while there was a bit of rose tinted lenses with some things, it still holds up to today and is overall much better than current slop we have outside of a few outliers."Also Im sentient and therefore was able to develop taste as a child fairly quickly. This argument only works for like the first dozen or so vidya you played at a very young age. Out of all the shit I played as a kid, probably 90% of them I would still play if it came out today. People who use this argument are either really fucking young and therefore grew up in an age where the average game fucking sucked, or they didnt actually fucking play vidya until very recently and have no idea what the fuck theyre talking about. Usually shills to push new games too.
>>722571494I don't know who that is but I would never have engaged with someone who looked like that in the first place
>>722574695ok buddy
>>722574707>Pat looks up stuff and then tries to nonchalantly bring it up to Mat and Woolie to appear smartBut why? Most times I just keep quiet about something I know unless somebody is really struggling or asks for it.
>>722574646I wish Liam and Pat didn't fight over Paige because Liam worked as the fourth member. Overly weeby and the aficionado on Nintendo games.
>>722572062Look anon, you just have to accept that you have shit tastes and just because YOU liked it doesn't mean it's good to people that actually played other games and know how good games CAN be. If you were stuck in a room with only five movies to watch, you'd think those five movies were the best movies of all time too. Grow up and accept that sometimes what you like sucks and you should try and discover better stuff instead of feeling offended.
>>722574707Pat is a smart man that is too lazy to actually facilitate his naturally high intelligence, and so phones it in because he can't deal with the fact that's fat and retarded by his own lack of effort.
>>722571494Actually, they were better than today.Recent games starting late 2010's even lack difficulty, which is mandatory in terms of engagement in order to keep the consumer entertained.
I don't know who this fat faggot is.
>>722574667>Hundreds of thousands of Swiss people eat cat and dog meat>dude it's just an ancient folk tradition it doesn't count>and uhhhh people in china don't own pets or some shitthen how come every video in china has dogs and cats on the streets like usual?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiu7N7P1p-g&t=28mdo you retard kikes even believe the retarded lies you make up?
>>722573763>and you can leave, byelmao you are malding
>>722573424>an actual infinite apologistwait a minute, that card
>>722571494cope
>>722572463>all math is the same, you just take variables and try to reach the solution>all food is the same, you just consume matter and shit it out>all exercise is the same, you just expend calories>all life is the same, you just try to be happythis is kindergartener level philosophy and frankly embarrasing
>>722574725I was terrified of teletubbies
>>722574921>>Hundreds of thousands of Swiss people eat cat and dog meatWhere in the fuck are you getting that? Your own article claimed it was rare. Meanwhile China has literal safe boxes for dogs while owners go into a store so they're not stolen and sold for meat.
>>722573798using this logic critiquing anything is pointless, and yet people consistently engage in media that critiques film, video games, theatre, music, tv, writing, anything you can think of. generally humans have similar tastes and enjoy similar things, and people often reach some kind of shared general consensus, making it easier for people to find higher quality media. people will always have individual tastes, and as such some people will always like things that others dont, but to use this as an excuse to discount all forms of criticism in all forms of media is just completely childish. if theres waves of people saying "x game is dogshit", and you like it, and you recognise that you played it when you were 10 years old, you have to be deeply lacking in self awareness to simply say 'I enjoyed it therefore its good' instead of just recognising that maybe you engaged with it in a period of your life where you had lower standards, and since then have accumulated biases that prevent you from creating a more objective opinion on the game.
>>722574824There it is again. That idea that you only like something because "you don't know any better."Like I haven't played just as many games as the typical eceleb grifter.
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>>722571752Midwit pseudo intelectualYour abstraction is narrow and inaccurate
>>722573424>Everytime people say this it amounts to "Only 2 guns. Similar Plasmids. Rails. and Elizabeth infinite ammo. Two things that never bothered me. Then you are fine with a game franchise literally being downgraded in terms of gameplay when compared to the first 2 games.>Opposed to "Do a 9/11 on children to make this easy game slightly easier" or "Do the obviously right choice and reject the shitty oppressive nature of the environment because you're one of the good ones." There wasn't much choice in the other games either. And that was the point of the first one.Now you ARE comparing to the first games when it's about supporting your positive views on the game. Infinite is way worse because not even mechanically the choices matter. Bio 1 and 2 choices at least gave you different powers and power progression depending on what you did AND if I recall correctly, the "choices" were imposed by producers or someone and were never meant to be there anyways, so if anything, Infinite having them is just pushing an idea that was not part of the design in the first place.>People always say this but I didn't get that at al EXCEPT with Burial at Sea where they attempt to make Elizabeth responsible for the entire series.Nah, the wordlbuilding was shit or turned to shit the second they jumped into a new timeline and we were expected to just accept that what we do in this new timeline is in any way relevant anymore. Hell, that whole asylum sequence where we meet old Elizabeth explaining what happened after her version was abandoned in Columbia pretty much settled that Booker had NO WAY of doing anything relevant to the story besides dying, which makes THE WHOLE GAME pointless.You like shit anon, it's fine, just don't expect us to indulge you when you start talking about the pros of eating shit and how much nutritional value it has if it was the first thing you ate in your life.
>>722575037literally the first sentence in the articlehttps://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30205410it didn't claim it was rare at all, you're yet again making shit up>posts the same retarded garbage lie again like a bot when I already dunked on itlmao you're a legit jewhere's the video againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiu7N7P1p-g&t=28mand the article againhttps://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30205410and the video againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiu7N7P1p-g&t=28myou think you can click on them this time?
>>722571975>WHY AREN'T YOU POSTING THE PICS I APPROVE OF?Goddamn, you baby. Shut up and answer the question.
>>722575159>no argumenteat shit pleb lmao
>>722575179>You like shit anon, it's fine,/v/ how to I reply to this without sounding mad
>>722574996In the context of design philosophy it's totally valid
>>722571494>"You're right Pat. Anyway, let's talk about racism."
>>722575316call him a nigger
>>722574725Who's saying Teletubbies isn't good though? Maybe I like the aesthetic design, and find the off-beat dadaism of it all to be charming?
>>722575190>it didn't claim it was rare at all, you're yet again making shit upIt's in your own article Ching Chong>dog or cat meat but it is legal for people to eat their own animals.>They said that in their opinion it was "rare" for this to happen.And, meanwhile in China>China's Cruelty: Killing Cats And Dogshttps://petshun.com/article/china-killing-cats-and-dogs
>>722575179Shut up nigger.
>>722571494I don't care why I enjoyed something. I simply did and I move on.
>>722575114Anon, it's the only explanation on why you'd like something that is objectively inferior to other games of the genre and even the same franchise. Unless you have a mental disorder in which you can only enjoy media and games with a particular mix of aesthetic, gameplay and visuals, that's the only reasonable explanation. Unless you are a contrarian or something.So yeah, either you didn't play enough games or have such a narrow, strict taste that ONLY a game like infinite would be enjoyable to you.
>Two Best Friends Play breaks up>World became 100x worse overnightDon't call it a coincidence!
>>722574707>Sees a guy heal in God of War>OH MY ONIONS IT'S HECKIN BALDUR
>>722574646Nah, Liam was right. The backlash and subsequent apologies over that game were kind of ridiculous.We all have to pretend Keiji Inafune is the devil now, because he took money to produce a Megaman clone, and he produced a Megaman clone.
>>722575345>Here's why White people are better than niggers. Crypto nigger hating black man, Woolie.
>>722571494Kids can't enjoy things, apparently?If he's referring to kids having lowers standards, sure, but there are usually some actual concrete reasons for having enjoyed something. Even kids can have good taste. It's not like I loved every single game I encountered as a kid.
>>722571494What relevance do these fags have here beyond the nigger posting on here while playing Dark Souls 2?Not that they'd ever be caught dead here now, too desperate to be liberal.
>>722575457If you enjoy hot dogs, it's only because you haven't had enough steak sounding mentality.
>>722575423>durrrr china bad durrrrrrenjoy your palantir points clown>in their opinionso the article didn't claim it, they quoted someone saying it, another dishonest jew as usual, the article claimed that it was common>and meanwhile on some literal who site written by some jew who's never been to chinaKEEEEEEEEEEEEEKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiu7N7P1p-g&t=1680slook it's china, with a dog just chilling in the middle of a street, how is this possible? I thought you said people in china don't own pets? and they all get eaten instantly? retard jewish clown
>>722574646He was right in that they did likely influence people and Liam was an idiot for not understanding how someone might feel responsible for that.He was being retarded acting like he wanted to give people their money back.
>>722575345So uuh is anyone gonna say anything..?
>>722575385I find the plotlines incredibly repetitive and boring, the visually interesting chapters were few and far in-between and, even as a kid, I disliked the sequences where they showed some nobody kid playing. I was watching teletubbies to see the teletubbies doing shit. Several other kids show, from Sesame street to local shows where I lived, were much more fun and entertaining, reason why we still talk about stuff like Sesame street and teletubbies became pop culture fad. Even compare it to newer stuff like Bluey that actually has decent structure and entertaining storylines beyond the teaching for kids.Also, you know, Teletubbies was made for a specific public in mind, little children. If you still think teletubbies is entertaining to your CURRENT show tastes, then yes, it's not good, you must be mentally disabled or autistic.
>>722575658>the article claimed that it was commonThe article sourced a hysterical source as claiming it was common, the actual authoritative voice didn't believe it was. And, again, China has a widely known about and advertised meat market for domestic animals that equates to millions of sales/butchery annually.
>>722571494>enjoyed it>Past tenseSome kids enjoyed doing lots of disgusting or objectively shit things as kids, doesn't mean they'd like it now. Doesn't change the fact they enjoyed it then.
>>722575345Assassin's Creed Shadows continues to haunt this board.
>>722575471I hear this sentiment a lot but I don't ever hear anyone going to bat for Matt. Sometimes listening to old clips I can kind of feel that he was the least funny one among the 3 and wasn't bring much to conversations.
>>722575345The whitest of them all
>>722575736That image makes it look like he was the one that was pregnant
Man Pat is such a huge faggot now, actual fucking parody of himself
>>722575107>critiquing anything is pointlesskind of, yeah.Art critique is a form of control-freakism.>"NO! THE THINGS YOU LIKE AREN'T VALID! ONLY THE THINGS I LIKE ARE VALID, AND I HAVE PRODUCED A 5 HOUR VIDEO ESSAY TO PROVE IT"Okay, weirdo...This is all just so beside the point of why I enjoy anything. For example, I like old Doctor Who, specifically because it's low budget in a way that's endearing and lead to a lot of clever problem solving on the part of the production. You can draw me a diagram of all the ways the special effects aren't as good as alien. I don't give a shit.
>>722573630This.>>722573798>there's nowhere left to go except people yelling at each other>he doesn't make up schizo theories about people with different opinions, accusing them of being Eric or some other imaginary enemy>he doesn't reply to 3-meters long posts with shitty memes making fun of their authorYou are doing it wrong, anon
>>722575617The proper comparison would be you vouching for the disguting hotdog the turkish guy in your corner street sells after eating a proper german sausage and claiming it's just as good if not the same.Again, in this food comparison, people that like infinite are like those people that vouch for canned food filled with preservatives compared to fresh produce. You can vouch as much as you want, they are not as good, flavorful or nutritious, but YOU can eat as much as you want, but don't try to sell it to me as "just as good". It is not and you probably just got a taste for it because you started eating that crap as a kid or has such a shitty sense of taste that your opinions shouldn't apply to the normal discussion with other people.
>>722575345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStpdsqXMCA
>>722575658>STOP YULIN DOG MEAT SLAUGHTER. THIS BARBARITY MUST END!https://www.oipa.org/international/stop-yulin-dog-meat-slaughter/>China is recognized to be the world’s largest dog meat market, with 97,000 tons produced every year. There are an estimated 10 million dogs and 4 million cats tortured and slaughtered for the barbaric dog and cat meat trade annually.
someone post woolie dancing gif
>>722575790you sound like a hysterical faggot when it comes to china, sperging about retarded jewish lies constantly, especially since I already posted a link that completels demolishes your retarded talking point but you can just go and look at any traveling video in china and you'll see cats and dogs chilling and walking around the streets, I'm sure you won't though because you don't like the fact that reality doesn't prove your retarded jewish propaganda
>>722571752Whatever just post more genshin ass
>>722575841He is better in isolation. His Sw1tcher stuff and current content smokes anything he did on Best Friends, at least after the initial Machinma run, which he was pretty funny in.
>>722571494>Listen to one of the newer podcast episodes >Both Woolie and Pat are parents now>Pat treats his child like a wacky accessory (same way he treats his chronically ill wife and deformed dog)>Woolie tries to min-max and lab his newborn while over thinking every decision It must be a strange feeling knowing that 90% of your audience has outgrown you
>>722571494"I just played it for the first time this year"
>>722575957>THE SIX GORILLION PEEPEEPOOPOO CHINA BAD>source: shlomo shekelstein
>>722575841Fart gas!Simpsons!I don't remember anything else he said or did.
>>722575990there are cows chilling on fields, that means they dont eat cows
>>722575760what if my current tastes include a kind of post-ironic appreciation for kid's TV?
>>722576058I would assume most new parents would overthink everything with their child.
>>722576094you claimed people in china don't own pets >>722574667>making owning pets virtually impossible in their countryLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOhow can someone post something so retarded with a straight face? of course people china own cats and dogs, of course the western hysteria about some rural peasants in china 10 years ago eating dogs is as irrelevant as swiss eating dogs for christmas>>722576176>incoherent jewish sperging LMAOyou lost shlomo
pat really is a wild example of a faggot streamer. we know that he was working for minimum wage up until like age 30. and yet he is still an extreme leftist and massively entitled weirdo, and very likely sexual offender too. its just so strange to go from normal person for that long, into completely standard, deluded streamer mode. he transitioned seamlessly.
>>722575949What are they even talking about for Woolie to say "Just call me a nigger" live
>>722575736>Woolie has an exertional crisis for being seen as "white" years ago>baby comes out almost pale whiteWHITEST BLACK MAN ALIVE
>>722575736Why is he breastfeeding that baby?
>>722576242I didnt claim shit
>>722571494>Hey everyone its me Pat. Im so edgy and will say anything to get a rise out of people. But I'll go out of my way to respect pronouns and say that Naoto from P4 is trans
>>722572793Hes a fat ginger from Montreal. Hes also around 5foot tall.
>>722572229What if I did play it as a kid, and then I played it again as an adult, and it's still fun?I replayed Link's Awakening (original) last year and it's still one of the greatest 2d adventure game of all time.
>>722576307so you agree that it's retarded, cool, you can just watch any travel video in china and see pets normally allover the place after all, how much of a retarded faggot do you have to be to post retarded shit like that lmao
>>722576276pffffffttt
>>722576282I assume it's just that skin on skin shit they say you should do with your kids. Have them actually touching against your skin for whatever reason.
>>722575736when he said he legitimately believed in the egyptian we wuz kangs shit i knew it was time to drop him like a 2 tonne brick. and that was a solid 10 years ago now it feels like.
>>722576379Im not the anon you are arguing with. im just shitposting because switzerland
>>722576115Then you are a niche audience and you are looking for something beyond the traditional standards of quality for a show. You are that underground/hipster guy that enjoyed music where people use typing machines and weird tones for their arrangements, which is fine, but you won't be appreciating it in the same way the average person wants to enjoy the medium. It's a valid way, of course, but you can't say "this 2 hours experimental jazz with real chainsaw revving" is as good as a proper orchestra or classic rock album to the average person because what they want to get out of it is completely different and I say that as someone that enjoys stuff like typewriting music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OGoftbnqLMAnd it can be very fun if you can get in that mindset, but even this example I posted, you can see that the transition between parts of the song dont mesh well and the typerwriter itself feels more like a gimmick.It's the "freddy got fingered" effect. The average person won't enjoy it probably and, objectively as a comedy, it's not that great, BUT in the meta sense and if you enjoy a REALLY SPECIFIC type of comedy and the whole thing it represents, yes it can be good.Which is all moot when talking about teletubbies or Infinite because they were MEANT to be yet another commercial product that were trying to follow the usual standards of the medium and genre and failed.
>>722576324Reminds me of seeing a recent clip of him and his wife playing LA Noire making all sorts of "risky" jokes but then getting really pissy when someone went slightly further in their chat.Or that troon they hang out with telling someone to kill themselves cause they weren't hyped about monster hunter wilds or something.
>>722576479>but you can't say "this 2 hours experimental jazz with real chainsaw revving" is as good as a proper orchestra or classic rock album to the average personI mean, I can and will say that.
>>722576242>The Link Between Pet Theft, Stray Animals, and the Dog and Cat Meat Trade in China>Each year in China, millions of dogs and cats are slaughtered for human consumption. There are no dog or cat meat farms in China. Most of these animals are stolen pets or strays—dogs and cats who are ripped from the safety of their homes and yards or taken off of the streets where they scavenge for survival. https://www.duoduoproject.org/post/the-link-between-pet-theft-stray-animals-and-the-dog-and-cat-meat-trade-in-chinaChinese shills are retards.
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>>722576612based and yummy sloppapilled
>>722576446Swiss are nitpicking faggots and no one cares about anything they say.Also eternal neutrality because they got so fucked in the ass, they dont even have one anymore.
>>722576274Pat was pretending to be one of those people who constantly talks down to minorities like they're children who need help and validation while pretending to be the most moral and anti-racist people alive, which is more racist than just calling someone a nigger. So Woolie told him to just be overtly racist rather than theatrical about how unracist he is.
>>722576486I'm guessing they kept joking about shooting blacks and beating wives and when someone said negro or nigger they sperged out
>>722571494>Woolie starts a new podcast with Eyepatch Wolf>The premise is pretty good and the first few episodes are funny>Then Woolie's complete lack of imagination kicks in>His picks become utterly bizarre and dull (eg eat West Indian food, or watch Reboot for 3 months in a row)>He also isn't able to discuss the activities he's done in an engaging way >They do a live episode and the audience is legitimately full of troons and furries>They have a terrible web comic that neither of them has finished in their top ranking because they know the writer listens to the podcast I dont understand how Woolie is so bad at his job still after all these years
>>722571494I played it recently
>>722574513Not really some jew thing so much as mods don’t want to create a kiwi farms splinter cell that would need constant moderation to not be completely insane
>>722576557Yeah you can, but you understand that it's not what the usual public for music is looking for. Music is more subjective, I can give you that, then the other proper comparison would be that movie that Andy Warholl made that was just the empire state building for 24 hours straight.
>>722576595>another literal who random ass jewish site reposting the same shitty cia propaganda with no real sources for anythingjewish shills are retards, literally just trying to grasp at straws after getting dunked on as always, you gonna post another 50 websites all owned by blackrock repeating the same talking points like the jew you are?
>>722576612I can't get through that
>>722576486there's a whole power dynamic now, where troons are basically allowed to be edgy teenagers on mid-00's Xbox live, and I half think that's part of the appeal of becoming one for some people.>dude, I'm going to send death threats to "TERFs", lmaoC'mon. This is just little Timmy from the COD4 lobby, ten years later.
>>722576701It was a great bit and I felt that feeling too, even if I never felt direct racism in my life. Condescending assholes are a universal plague.
>>722576716>Plays Fear and Hunger on the hardest difficulty>Him and the fans act like somehow this is Eyepatch Wolf's faultOnly funny thing was playing Omikron again since he technically never beat it just to no u John
>>722576765Yoh Charlie tell me all about Tiananmen Square.
>>722576716Woolie is weird as a nerd. He clearly has specific interests and dives down into those, but he seems to feel offended or pressured into diving faster into his interests. I remember when he was reading Jojo and getting references wrong and people telling him to just read the rest and he explained he disliked the part 4 translations and such.Hes a lazy nerd in a world where rabid nerds will devour content in days and expect people to be there with them.
>>722576716Jujutsu Kaisen shibuya arc as their #1 is still the funniest thing about that list. Really shows how much they unironically value "hype moments and aura" above anything else. Also Woolie being consistently filtered by anything remotely interesting or non-standard like Twin Peaks.But yeah eyepatch wolf is carrying and Woolie is the supporting sidekick as per usual. I liked the horror when Woolie admitted he planned to recommend Reboot fucking AGAIN.
>>722571494Anybody that would just say "X sucks" (or any cheap pejorative) in a conversation isn't worth talking to seriouslyI mean if one of my friends said "X sucks" and I said "I like it" they would go "You like it? My bad." They were expecting me to say "yeah" or maybe "for real?" not having played it. Not trying to start an argument. If they were trying to argue they wouldn't say something cheap and stupid.
>Utsuro, Yoiyoi and Layla all start streaming at the same timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-JbV4DOECkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMU7HudtgH4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvEjNl8fgc&pp=0gcJCfsJAYcqIYzvEuh what am I supposed to do
>>722577020>You like it? My bad.What a pussy. A real friend would say "It's fucking shit, anon. Watch/play/listen to Y instead, it's way better, even by the same creator"Friends want you to enjoy good stuff and if you just experienced boring/shit, they'd offer you good stuff instead. Unless YOU are too much of a pussy to have your tastes questioned or challenged.
>>722576950you mean that time when george soros (jewish cia asset) tried to stage a color revolution, then got dabbed on and the jews have been seething about it for 50 years? now tell me about the uss liberty
Can you not enjoy something as a kid?
>>722577182Yes, but doesn't mean what you enjoyed was good, if you want to make a claim something you liked is still "good" today or by more adult standards.
>>722575841He wasn't quick witted enough to make jokes on the fly in LPs and he would get salty over nothing often. >>722576057Na his wahappen series is just him reading wiki pages and stuff someone else wrote for him to read. He doesnt write anything.
>>722571494"I enjoyed it as a kid and I enjoy it now, much like your mom. Haha."
>>722577119i don't make friends with brainlets that think 'it sucks' or 'it's shit' are critiques
>>722576701The problem with people like Woolie, is they can't accept that sometimes they are genuinely dumb, and need to be talked down to, and they want to make a whole thing out of it.
>>722577119I'm not friends with stupid slav chimpanzees
>>722571494pull out one of these bad boys
>>722575919thats the point of critique, its not just giving something a score out of 10, its sharing and discussing ideas on somethings qualities. saying low budget special effects are endearing and interesting to watch is a valid (complimentary) critique. which is my point. if there's something that many people agree is poor, with many arguments, then simply responding "i liked it so actually its good", represents poor personal insight, especially when that person is failing to consider that they have personal biases from playing it as a child. if they can provide valid arguments of why its actually high quality or enjoyable, then maybe they have more of an argument, and even if people disagree, they have insight into why their opinion on things differ. equally, if your only argument is 'you only like it because you played it as a kid' but they fail to articulate why it is actually low quality then they also have a bad argument, but saying that someone only likes something because they only played it as a kid oftentimes is a valid explanation as to why someone enjoys something that is often regarded as low quality.
>>722576702I got that off Mike Matei. Mr "I'm an edgelord" hears one medium spicy 1940's Germany gag, and suddenly it "verified accounts only".
>>722577271you'd have to define what "good" is, in that case.
>>722576716>Woolie makes fighting games, labbing and boxing his personality>Gets destroyed in a irl fight by an Irish midget half his size, who's only been boxing for a few months Very funny
>>722577521Couldn't there be a point to be made that kids' tastes are valid, and if anything they have a very unsullied palette and approach everything with zero expectations, and therefore can see things that we can't?>me as a kid "I like bright colours">me as a teenager "I only like black and grey">me now "actually I like bright colours, and I was right in the first place"
>>722571975what picture should he have posted instead? posting a picture of an ugly person coupled with a shitty opinion is more engaging than posting some random tranny screenshot from genshit shitpact.
>>722571494Didn't this guy get HIV from that Spherehunter troon?
>>722571494Depends on the game.Some games do suck.Like almost every early era 3d console game centered around platforming sucks.Not Mario 64, you're golden.
>>722577678>Pat's surprise when he admitted that was his first "real" boxing match and he's just been fighting punching bags for the last decade
>>722577158>then got dabbed onYes "dabbed on," much like the Chinese "dab" on their pets by butchering and selling them in open meat markets. Or, how the Chinese don't help the victims of traffic accidents or random assaults, instead casually ignoring their fellow man's suffering.
>>722578126>claims that people in china don't own pets (lmao)>post a video from china showing people owning pets like normal>just spergs and keeps repeating the same petty copypasta garbagelmao, get dabbed on loser, you'll never win the culture war
>>722577474why did he do it
>>722576398It really sucks that Egypt is so beloved by Black Israelite and other black activist types, and the phenomenon extends to legitimately talented guys like Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, who had an Egyptian aesthetic overhaul later in his career, so the line is even harder to draw. It's one of the best mythologies out there. We all have a bias toward it because of Yu-Gi-Oh! and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, so I can't imagine how many anons have lost sleep over this issue.
>>722571494i dunno i kind of knew which games were shit even as a kid. Parents are software devs.
>>722576716>I dont understand how Woolie is so bad at his job still after all these yearsI don't even know he makes a living, dude barely streams and he's not really popular either (and he splits the money with Reggie?)maybe he has a game dev side gig like Liam, idk
>>722577816no, kids tastes are not valid, they are complete fucking idiots. they have brains that havent fully developed. similarly i would not value the tastes of someone with mental retardation. i would equally state that most teenagers views are not valid. all three of these groups i would expect to have vastly different tastes and sensibilities to myself so i would not value their opinions in guiding what type of media i should engage with. a random normal guy aged anywhere from 20-90 is much more likely to have tastes that align with my own. theres a reason i dont watch teletubbies and the tweenies.
>>722577521I feel like gamers in general have a serious problem where they judge things on what they want it to be rather than what it actually is and also struggle withDifferentiating between “I didn’t like it” and “it’s bad”
>>722578547More likely that his wife is the one earning most of their income.
>>722578369We literally know they weren't black, unless you really stretch the definition of "black" to people who could pass for Syrian or Greek. There's not really a debate to be had. They're just wrong.
>>722571494"People who were adults when I was a kid and played it at the same time also enjoyed it, you fucking doublenigger."
>>722578556So that's the rub, eh? You have a maturity bias.
>>722571494who and what is he saying this about
>>722578547If I remember correctly from the Twitch leaks a few years ago, he does ok but the podcast Twitch channel alone nearly makes as much as his channel does. Pat was doing disgustingly well on Twitch
>>722578616that's a whole other thing. The old "Wind Waker is bad because it's not *my* preferred Zelda" argument.
>>722572162None of the Bioshock games are anything good or new or revolutionizing. All the "different" stuff was removed by the second game so the shooter chads felt like they were playing something new.good day.
>>722578769Bioshock Infinite
>>722577526>I got that off Mike Matei.do you not know about loco bandito?
>>722578739if you want to call it that, sure, i prefer media that i am in the target audience for, rather than media that is aimed at toddlers and preteens. I hope you do not think you are more enlightened because you like things that are generally targeted at people with underdeveloped brains.
>>722578547>>722578645you underestimate the amount of pathetic losers williong to support him just because he was once funny
>>722578820I enjoyed all the Zelda games then I played Master Quest then I played Twilight Princess and stopped playing Zelda pretty much forever.
>>722578905ikr. I was like "It's Mike Matei. He can't take a bit of jostling". Turns out, he can not.
>>722578905You can shut up now
>>722571494>"I enjoyed it">"No you didn't."people actually think like this, crazy
>>722578907one might argued most adults have under developed brains, and are mostly chasing an illusion of maturity, and that's why stuff like The Last of Us does so well, in spite of being trite and puerile. Teletubbies is kind of based. It's a pure expression of wonder and joy.
>>722579001>I enjoyed it because of XYZ features>Yeah but C feature is bad so it’s a bad game
>>722573275Nah I was a cod kid and bioshock infinite sucked dick and I loved bioshock 1 and 2. People that loved infinite are retarded pseuds. They just wanted to fuck the chick and look at the pretty clouds.
>>722571494>Genuinely how do you respond to this?nigger
>>722571752only replying because i saw my wife Fishe, this thread is absolute garbage like the rest of the board
>>722578663The Egyptians were not black, but the Kingdom of Kush in Nubia conquered what we know as ancient Egypt and created the 25th dynasty. So there were a lot of darkskins and darkskin mixing going on in a much later era. There are plenty of signs of african genetics in later egypt. The problem is black people literally think they fucking built the pyramids and shit which is totally wrong and so much farther back in time than when blacks were in egypt.
>>722575841Matt literally caused the group to breakup by showing up to Fisticuffs drunk and having them play some weird lolicon fighting game instead of Super fucking Smash Bros Ultimate the week it released.I will never let anyone forget this fact.
>>722579041>Teletubbies is kind of based. It's a pure expression of wonder and joy.teletubbies is shit, that fucking piece of shit vacuum is always stealing their custard and toast fucking bitch i hate you noo-noo i hope you kill yourself
>>722579413Noo-noo is a king!
>>722574246who is this fluid druid
>>722571494Just because you don't enjoy things now doesn't mean they're bad, you have to expand on your arguments or you're part of your own problem.>>722571752I think this is why we need games like death stranding desu, games like Animal Crossing kind of take the non game element of this to the extreme but I think games can be fun and can be just traversing and chilling.
>>722579303proofs?????????
>>722573424>Everytime people say this it amounts to "Only 2 guns. Similar Plasmids.Yeah it's pretty big downgrade. Feels like they designed Infinitie to have the exact same gun play as the previous two, even has the same upgrade system and everything. Then near the release a focus group came in and said "well you see kids these days love Halo and CoD and well they only have two weapons at a time so we gotta do the same thing." And then they made the change without ever changing anything about the actual upgrade system or gameplay progression.
>>722575736Hilarious Baby doesnt even have the black wools
>>722571494Pat is built like a gum drop
>>722576058>Pat treats his child like a wacky accessory (same way he treats his chronically ill wife and deformed dog)What the fuck else are you gonna talk about when you fucked off to the other side of the country and living among strangers that maybe are not gonna like you talking about them in your fucking podcastI think its natural that an almost 40 year old doesnt have fucking anything to talk about except their family livess and anecdotes about their yourh
>>722579458>he doesnt know
>>722579481those are boring though, fighting is fun, fighting irl is turn based too for the same reasons, it'll always be one side attacking, then having to pull back and defend, giving time for the other side to attack, until one of them meets their objective, games all build on that excitement for a reason
>>722571494>"Fuck you">"You only enjoyed older 3D Zelda's because of nostalgia"
>>722580010Hi Pat
>>722576962Hes a hipster He actively avoids mainstream media and Will go out of His way to avoid reccomendations to stuff even he Will enjoyHe wants to find out absolute on HIS terms AND when he feels like it
>>722580169So true I love big gacha boob- I mean, turn-based games.
>>722579731There are several primary points of evidence I can point to off the top of my head:1) In the video where they play the panty-shot fighting game, Pat is actively shitting on Matt for choosing that game and Woolie eventually just starts screaming about how they could be, nay SHOULD BE, playing Smash Bros instead.2) Previous instances of Matt being drunk, like the "green juice" stories on the podcast3) Smash Bros Ultimate came out the same week they played the pantyshot fighting gameThere's more gossip that I've gained from various SBFP lore threads here, but that's the main thrust of it.
>>722580169Fun and boring are buzzword, things don't need to be fun all the time for them to not be boring, they can just be enjoyable.Being open to different kinds of games isn't always fun, it usually isn't but it does end up being more enjoyable in the long run in my experience.
You just explain what is good about the game. If you can't do that then maybe it is shit.
>>722571752Videogames utterly BTFO'd Close this board right now
>>722576341that's one of the valid answers
>>722580361big boobs > fighting > walking simulators>>722580407there's a reason why out of the millions of games in the world 99% are about fighting, and there's rarely any games without any fighting, because it's not interesting, maybe you can have a small audience buying animal crossing, but would there be enough of an audience for 100 games that play like animal crossing? no way, because it's not that fun, you can have a 100 games about fighting existing at the same time with massive audiences because it's fun, people enjoy fighting, that's just how it is
>>722576341you still have to explain why your opinion is not blinded by nostalgia. the only valid response is to actually explain what is good about the game.
>>722571808>This games sucks>I enjoyed>I didn't and my opinion matters more than yours because you have 80 IQ and a micropenis>n-no you c-can't say th-ACK *gets a stroke and goes into a coma*
>>722571494But I didn't play vidya as a kid, I didn't even had a phone until 17.
>>722571494I don't respond because Pat and his sickly wife blocked me over his hysterical BLM support.
>>722571494"I enjoyed it despite all the bullshit"What now video essayist.
>>722580787I always wonder how people like that reconcile their insane cult beliefs after the other shoe drops and said organizations start getting convicted of fraud lmao
>>722580634I love big boobs too but I think I love big butts even more!
>>722580872"I didn't get fooled because I'm still morally in the right" is about how they justify it.
>>722574748What did he say about Superman
>>722580872They probably just pretend it didn't happen.Pat pretends Naoto from Persona 4 is transgender now. Self-deceit is the price of admission.
>>722580634I'm saying I mostly agree with what you said earlier and I think people stepping out of their comfort zones is how it gets better, it doesn't need to be AC, it can be anything but more people get there by trying things that aren't just fun right away.
>>722580402I was about to ask why would they play any other game besides Smash on its release week (even though I hate Smash, that would be the correct choice since both them and their audience wanted it), but then I remembered how they sometimes did stuff just to piss people off, like this terrible BlazBlue videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrgUm-Jm1M
>>722576058I hope Pat had a daughter instead of a son
>>722581232I don't think there's anything to "get better", fighting is the most fun thing out there, but of course you'll get tired of fighting too when you've figured out all the principles that it's built on, after that it's just anime girls and stories to enjoy, walking simulators and whatever crafting games won't replace fighting, they're not that fun, nothing is as fun, I'm just saying that bickering about which game has the most fun fighting is kind of pointless, it's all the same thing at the end of the day
>>722580167yes, i don't know, that's why im asking
The one time a dead dog was funny.
>>722574707One thing that baffles me is when he was like "I was on the PS4 dashboard, and it started auto playing streams, and I think I saw the final boss" (talking about Bloodborne dlc). Like I NEVER experienced the PS4 auto playing someone else's footage. At that point I just felt he was always full of shit.
>>722580680Do you have to be able to convincingly explain what is objectively good about something in order to enjoy it?t. don't really enjoy anything because consider doing in-depth reviews of every piece of media I consoom and keeping track of those a waste of time
>>722571494Is it true him and his wife are the assholes and the reason they deal with so much supposed "bullshit" where ever they live?
>>722582518Just listen to them talk for one second to find out
>>722582676I don't watch this fat goblin.
>>722571665Is he really an eceleb though, or just another fat retard on the internet.
>>722575736
>>722582019I love how Woolie so clearly doesn't believe him when he says shit like this, and just goes "yeah. Okay, alright, whatever."Love that big nigga like you wouldn't believe.
>>722581795What actually happened with the dog? Can't find reliable info on it.
>>722571494"Youre a kid now"
>>722583216Pat rolled over on to it
>>722571494Rise IS the best girlKanji IS gayNaoto IS trans
>>722580634newest animal crossing sold 50 million copies
>>722571494Either:>"hmm maybe I should replay it then"or>"I played it last year, it's fucking great, eat shit."
>>722571494Oh yeah well you're short!
>>722571752Just transition already
>>722575736Black/brown babies are typically very pale when born, then the colour sets in after a few months.
>>722583382Source of this info??
>>722580872they genuinely don't know that happens. I'm in cuckistan and not a single person here ever learns any actual news. they don't talk to americans, they don't watch anything that isn't cancerous CBC propaganda, they take the most wild FB rumours as gospel. genuinely half the nation believes the US isn't going to let in anyone who isn't white. they're deranged and I pray for a foreign power to conquer us every day I don't even care which one at this point.
>>722582843kek
>>722571882Harvest moon, or any farming game or city builder where there isnt an "enemy turn", only a chance for you to misappropriate your own resources and slow your progress. Plenty of games dont have an explicit conflict and amount to just watching numbers go up, if you want to be reductive. Your thing doesnt cover those.
>>722571494Didn't he have to put down his dog because it bit another at some training program?
>>722584541Source? anything?
>>722584541From what I've heard he went on vacation or something and put it up at a dog hotel and it died there or was killed by something.
>>722571665This
>>722582518Paige is a drunk and both are rude people so they pissed off their neighbors and have to move to the other side of Canada iirc
>>722571752the ultimate coombrain
I keep trying to watch Woolie's Lps, but he's so fucking boring, like I tried to watch him play Silent Hill 1 and I legit keep falling asleep, he's an amazing sleep aid.
>>722574707I rewatch some of their shitstorm videos every year around this time and it is crazy to see how obvious early on it is that Matt doesn't like Pat. He sort of got better at covering it up or acclimatized but in some of those early videos, especially either downpour or homecoming whichever one they played when it was new, Pat was making Matt absolutely seethe.
>>722571494I don't get into arguments with retards. Sure, there are plenty of retards here who screech at me, but I don't engage with them.
Pat pretending to like Silent Hill F so Konami sends him free shit is pretty funny
>>722585090you’re brown and trans
Matt's wife is gorgeous.
>>722578126Thats due to a retarded policy that force people who help them to pay their bills tooSame reason why they have such a huge gay underground scene now, retarded one child policy
>>722585275No she isn't, she's a fat, gross pig that swears too much and probably causes him a great deal of misery.
>>722571494"You're probably right. My tastes have changed a lot since I was a kid, and my standards have gotten a lot higher."
>>722571752that AI image just needed a little more work
>>722571494I wasn't, actually. Come up with a real argument.
People who do this I have just started calling schizophrenic. They are projecting and arguing with a voice in their head rather than the person talking to them.
>>722583216It fucking dropped dead
>>722571494Banjo is a based game. This faggot can go back to sucking of Shitsco Elysium
>>722571494yeah no shit i was a kid. are you actually able to enjoy things as an adult?
>>722585413let it all out, Matt
>>722571752You play gacha you don't get to speak.
>>722585170he liked it? huh, I thought he was gonna hate it to be honestmaybe he does have good taste, sometimes
>>722571494>pat "veilguard is a good game because it makes chuds mad" boivin
>>722587204Nah, I'm not Matt, if I married his ham planet I would have already hanged myself.
>>722587370That game is hot diarrhea, him "liking" it is just proof he's compromised.
>>722587425Did he actually defend Veilguard or is this bait? I've not seen a single person, even someone left leaning defend that shit.
>>722571494>lords of shadow apologist while shitting on ps2vania >scoffed at subahibiCant fix terminal retardation
>>722587425"Made the chuds mad" is code for, nobody played it and it lost a ton of money.
>>722571494I do a 24 hours of livestreaming the videogame again. Talking about what i still like about the game and what i wish had now that i seen it in other games
>>722571665fpbp
>>722571494The logic doesn't make sense. Is he saying kids are incapable of enjoying things?
>>722571494You're an idiot. I know what I enjoy better then you. He's a faggot for treating his last dog as a child.
>>722587995He's saying kids have shit taste and therefore any enjoyment you had as a kid is not indicative of the game being good.
FUN FACT LIAM WAS STALKING PAIGE WHEN SHE WORKED AT HOOTERS, THEN PAT ASKED HER OUT AND KEKED HIM SO BAD HE HAD A BREAKDOWN AND QUIT
>>722577339>>722577405I'm starting to think you don't have friends at all, anon. If just the concept of being talked back by a friend about something so inocuous as media taste makes you that defensive.
>>722588837>THEN PAT ASKED HER OUT AND KEKED HIM SO BAD HE HAD A BREAKDOWN AND QUITbut I remember Liam talking about his girlfriend way before he leftare you saying he was being unfaithful!!?
>>722589071Yes Liam is well known for cheating on his sister
>>722588990Look boris you stupid slav cunt, people who have over 80IQ don't begin arguments by saying faggot shit. They use insults when they want to be insulting and/or start fights.
>>722587995Don't apply logic to Pat, he folds himself into his bed so he doesn't have to make it in the morning, along with all the other batshit things he's admitted to over the years by accident because he thought everyone did it, like how he kept dropping rolls of toilet paper in the toilet because "You know how you hold the entire roll in your hand?"
>>722589401He also wanted a catheter bag so he didn't have to poop until Woolie informed him he'd have a punchable weakspot if anyone wanted to ruin his day.
>>722571494>>722571752This is maybe one of the worst threads I’ve ever read on /v/
>>722583793They should be watching US propaganda instead, you are completely correct. People like you are the real cucks, clamoring for foreign intervention when you can't bother to leave your house and do something about it yourself.
>>722589571Today or in general?
>>722571494does he still hate Kenny?
>>722571975
>>722585413>>722585275She's a 9/10 by soprano-american standards.
>>722589401>>722589530wtf? does he also take off his shirt when he takes a shit like George Costanza or what?
>>722589769He strips completely naked to shit he's said in one podcast I believe.
>>722581451Me too. He would be such a horrible role model for a son.
>>722589627In general.
>>722589363Whatever you say, mr. popularity.
>>722589915>>722581451He said it's a son
>>722589829man, I though DSP was insane but it seems Pat is on another level
>>722571494>Genuinely how do you respond to this?I replayed it recently, and it was even better than I remembered.
Just make an e-celeb board or move all this shit to /trash/
>>722580680>what's good about it?>it's fun>tries to gaslit you about your memories and opinionsJust shut the fuck up and acknowledge people can have fun doing different shit. Just because you're a faggot doesn't mean I can't be straight or am wrong for loving thick latinas
>>722585170I remember him shitting on the SH2 remake every time it came up pre-release, only to immediately flip his opinion on it once his circle of friends started to support it. I've long since learned that the first thing Pat ever says about anything is how he really feels, and everything after is a lie or a grift.
>>722580680>you still have toI really don't
>>722571494At least he's right about this.
>>722590079lol his son is going to grow up to hate Pat more than Pat hates his dad and brother
I didn't know kids can't like stuff.What is this cope bro.
>>722589915At least he's not related to the kid
>>722580783this, the biggest faggot response is saying someone's opinion is wrong because you can't fathom them liking a game you hate
>>722590379>Mural with racist caricatures of niggers, Jews, chinks, Irish, natives and so on>For some reason no wops
>>722571494>turned into a worse slop tuber I tried to watch his wha happen videos but I just can't stand his personality, how the hell those two played together for almost 8 years without killing one another is a miracle
>>722590473Kid is gonna end up raised by someone else when Pat and Paige both drop dead from all their health stuff
>>722571494>You were a kid when you played itthey're made for kids
Anyone else think Pat is 100% right about Banjo Kazooie? The controls are clunky and the game is just the peak of nostalgia goggle faggotry.
>>722584634That just sounds like "the dog ran away to a butterfly farm" excuse
>>722571494Sage
>>722591606It clearly attacked someone or another dog and had to be put down to avoid a lawsuit
>>722591520wtf happened there? was Liam a Roster Teeth fanboy/hater or what?
>>722571494>"This game sucks">"I enjoyed it">"No you didn't. You were a kid when you played it.">Genuinely how do you respond to this?You DON'T. If you say you enjoy something and someone insists you don’t, it means their mind is already made up. They're essentially calling you ignorant or a liar right from the start. There’s zero point in trying to engage with someone like that in good faith. Even if, against the odds, you manage to prove that you do enjoy the thing in question, they’ll simply move the goalposts, usually to something even more absurd or impossible to prove.This kind of dynamic often shows up in arguments between a man and a woman, especially when the woman dislikes the man for whatever reason. We've all seen it in one form or another. It usually starts with belittling comments like, “I bet you don’t get any,” or “No one would want to date you.” The man might respond with something like, “Actually, I’m in a long-term relationship with someone I love,” or, “I’ve dated plenty of women in the past.” But instead of acknowledging they were wrong, the woman might shift the goalposts and say, “Well, she probably wouldn’t marry you anyway.” If he replies, “We’re actually married,” it becomes, “Well, you probably don’t have kids.” If he says they do, then it might escalate to, “Oh, you probably abuse her,” or, “Given how you talk, there’s definitely something wrong with her,” or even, “I bet you’re stuck in a dead bedroom situation.”No matter how he responds, the accusation just keeps shifting. The point is this: when someone tells you that you didn’t enjoy something, or didn’t do something, even after you’ve clearly said you did, it’s because they’ve already made up their mind—either about you or the thing you’re talking about. And once that happens, nothing you say is going to change it.
>>722591896He's a failure and is mad Pat/Woolie are doing better than him
>There are people who still don't realize that Pat has been getting all his takes from shitters like PlagueOfGripes and passing it off as his own for over a decade
>>722590370>>722590270>>722582154you are right, you dont have to justify anything just to enjoy it which i suppose was the argument, but my point was more to say that if you want to justify it as a 'good game', which is how i interpreted the original post (even if thats not what it literally was). if your whole argument for why something is good/high quality is 'i enjoyed it' in the face of legitimate criticism of the game you have no argument. whereas 'you were a kid when you played it' is an argument that could very well be an accurate explanation of why you enjoy something even though it is low quality, i.e. it could be part of a valid counter argument against the logic of 'i enjoyed it therefore it is good'.
>>722591896>>722591985Liam had the hots for Paige before she met Pat. In a very real way, Pat kinda fatbald-NTR'd Liam with Paige. I legit wonder how he handled the news that she had Pat's child.
>>722581740sucks to be you
>>722576086Gully GullyGwassesPizza-pasta force
>>722592279whomst
>>722575736Woolie the liar stole my baby.
>>722571665FPBP>>722571715Then you could've used something other than that image, eh?
>>722592129I wonder what Plague is up to these days. Last I saw he left the US for the first time in his life to meet his internet girlfriend in Ireland
>>722592129Surprised he hasn't joined Joseph Anderson in saying Silent hill 2 sucks
>>722572581>Lust provking image>PatStares...uh... huh... riiiiight.
>>722571494Why should I care if someone online thinks I didn't enjoy something? Why does anyone care?No genuine discussion is going to come out of that situation and within an hour both people are going to forget about it unless they're EXTREMELY autistic.
>>722592129>>722592575Isn't that the guy who spent like twenty minutes talking about a pile of rubble in Dark Souls?
>>722590379He's not even wrong. Mafia 3 at least had the characters saying nigger, I can't even remember if Infinite at one point says negro. It toothless, and that's ignoring how retarded the multiverse shit gets or shitting up 1 and 2 with Infinite. I imagine he's more bothered that the violent revolutionaries are violent when they start their revolution though and are also indiscriminately killing white people because "noooo racism can't heckin go both ways!"
>>722592575He had started his tranny arc (taking estrogen, talking like a girl, vtubing, always on discord) when I last checked in
>>722572162He’s right. Infinite sucks and anyone who has fond memories of it probably only remembers the cool art direction and Elizabeth being hot.
>>722572821>one is just more enjoyable than the otherin the context of this pointless comparison that's the entire systemic construction of games A and B. enjoyable and not enjoyable are polar opposites, so by that logic games can be miles apart from a design perspective and they are not 1:1. your argument is pointless abstraction, technically true but just as meaningless for discussion as saying that a person and a rock are both made of atoms and so are essentially the same.
>my dog, my babby, my wife, my cat Anyone else tired of Pat?
>>722571494I still haven't forgiven him for ruining the ds3 playthrough rip zangief doe
>>722592850Yes, and it was BASED.
>>722571494>guy told me I was feeling nostalgic for a game and I was wrong>literally playing it for the first time earlier that day and just happened to see a thread about itAm I being retroactively nostalgic? Huh?
>>722571494>fat ugly bastardNobody asked
>>722591520So what even happened with the RT stuff? I heard that CSB were part of RT and then RT died, so did anything come of it?
>>722593443The cat is still alive?
>Check out streamMost of his jokes now are "Woah ho, I made a joke about race, aren't I so edgy and funny guys? But don't actually do a racism, okay?
>>722593443I was getting tired of him long before and my breaking point was the bayo 3 VA thing.
>>722592850He spent over two hours total on that pile
>>722593531>>722593651How do you even talk about that for so long? Is it entirely speculating what caused the pile?
>>722593443I listened to CSB for a year or so and got sick of him then.
#JusticeForJimmy
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>>722574707I don't mind the fact he was looking stuff up. That's fine. But the fact he LIES about it is what upsets me. Play ahead, look stuff up. I don't care. Just don't lie to me about it.
>>722571494What game? If it was licensed shovelware he’s right. If it was Super Mario Sunshine, it’s debatable.
>>722576716John still makes some fun suggestions like Junji Ito, Kaiji, mother 3 but yeah Woolie is usually lame. I don't mind him doing shit like sacred and terrible air or Dokapon. But then he'll do shit like Carribbean food or Kendrick Lamar because he's so desperate to be seen as black.
GRAND WIZARD WAKKA
>>722571494>I fucked you mom and she enjoyed it>No she didnt
>Woolie going on about how black people have rhythm for hi fi rush>Pat was on beat more then him overall >>722593923Yeah it's that Pat wants so much to be seen as the smart one he spoils himself and then pretends he didn't and he just guessed it.
>>722591979>No matter how he responds, the accusation just keeps shifting. The point is this: when someone tells you that you didn’t enjoy something, or didn’t do something, even after you’ve clearly said you did, it’s because they’ve already made up their mind—either about you or the thing you’re talking about. And once that happens, nothing you say is going to change it.Its pretty easy to reverse this and make the other side rage though. After you prove that your in a relationship and happy, when they keep making digs, just inquire on THEIR love life calmly. Or ask why they are so upset that someone who disagrees with them is in a loving relationship. Insinuate that theyre projecting. And eventually just say that perhaps they should get their own love life sorted out before critiquing others.They will almost certainly block you long before this because they literally cant handle their own tactics used against them, especially when non hostile.
>>722571752Play more games you fucking faggot
There are a lot of games I consider good but will never play them again, a number of those are from my childhood. No, I don't care about how they stood the test of time, it doesn't matter. I don't care about video games being future proof or whatever, that's retarded and gay.
>>722593159No way. I don’t believe that.
>>722593923I have a friend that does this for every single game and it's genuinely baffling.>streaming a roguelike>any time he has a choice he tabs out but says he's thinking>there's a frame every time of what is clearly a guide>denies using one
"off topic" rant >Liam the glue that held the dynamic together. overly contrarian, overly preachy, absolutely. but a necessary opposite force to Pats autistic obstinance that balanced out the debate and kept Pat the heel where he thrived. also the best player of the 4 by far.>Matt overly hated. not especially funny, irritating when he doesnt care what's going on and goes into shitpost mode but a good hype man when someone else knows what they're talking about. best as a force multiplier, good in tandem w Liam or Woolie, as stated this was the balancing force that kept Pat's insanity from eroding the group before he was left without Liam to eat the brunt of it. >Pat most knowledgeable, second best player, best after Liam left, maybe the funniest until he overstays his welcome then he fucking sucks. genuinely, frustratingly annoying in that way only someone who's smugly incorrect can be. best when he's the loudmouth everyone else is shitting on. >Woolie the heart of the dynamic. best hype man, second funniest but probably most consistently entertaining. I'm never mad at him like i could be at the others. however, his thriving as a reactionary to the others means he can't cut it as a front man, and his capitulating to Pat's insanity is why Mat was left alone as the the punching bag and eventually the group dissolved. they were all necessary; a self contained ecosystem. I do miss em.
>>722574707i discovered them via revengeance when it came out>gets to the boss rush door>immediately equips his emp grenade>sees monsoonoh were fighting him again eh?
>>722571494idkbut i played a game as a kid & hated it so i quit playing iti replayed it as an adult & loved itonly because it had weird story elements to it that my adult brain wanted to solvei can probably replay it now & still enjoy everything about it
>>722594687MGSV was really bad, they react to the scene of Quiet attacking the DD soldier as "oh it's this one" despite it being all footage never shown in trailers, and then immediately they also start to act clueless
>>722594871I'm pretty sure there was a trailer with quiet on mother base jumping on someone
>>722594871i couldnt watch mgsv because liam started screaming BIG GUY 4 U HUHUH BIG GUY 4 U out of nowhere with no contexti closed the tab out of embarrassment but i laughed later when i heard he was seething over people saying he looked shit up when he beat quiet by dropping boxes on her
>>722594975It was the lead up to that part they were reacting to, which wasn't even shown. Trailer only showed the stab attempt
>>722571494That era of snarky youtube reviewers that were basically like "everything is shit" completely ruined online vidya discourse for all time.
>>722594286>black people have rhythm for hi fi rush>the genre of music used in Hi-Fi Rush is dominated by white peopleAre you telling me that Woolie is STILL trying to prove he's black after all these years?
>>722572878>higher order of thinkingLmao go get some pussy faggot
>>722595097being "too cool" for something is hardly new. admitting to liking something requires intelligence and emotional vulnerability. easier to just call it shit and look discerning at a glance. its the founding principal of /v/
Watching woolie play bamham arkham was torturous. He refused to interact with the combat system at ALL and kept saying the game was bad because HE didn't want to do play it properly. Now let's say he understood the freeflow system and didn't like it because it was too basic. Sure, that's a perfectly valid opinion. But he would just spam batarangs for no reason then sigh, look at reggie, look at the camera and keep going. DSP type shit.
>500 post eceleb gossip threadwow I didn't realize everyone on this board was a woman
>>722594646>>Woolie >the heart of the dynamic. best hype man, second funniest but probably most consistently entertainingI wonder where that hype went, because his streams are excruciatingly boring and slow
>>722592432never ever
>>722595617All the Deltarune threads should have tipped you off.
>>722572062These days it's because people want to be part of the zeitgeist, so if someone call the new thing bad they get mad. New silent hill is just a generic jap action game and silent hill in name only, they become mad not that you point it out, but that you are right.
If you're going to look up shit for a game while let's playing it don't try and be a fag pretending you were smart enough to figure it out. Or at least be good at acting.
>>722593057Nah, the racism was really toothless and didn't even make sense why Columbia, the utopia in the sky, need cheap labor and immigrants anyways, with all the machineries and handy men around. Maybe it was a comment that they can't have all the cool utopian stuff without relying on cheap labor and the asian guy that was building all the cool stuff for Fink, but even then it was pretty pointless since you just jump to a different timeline and nothing is resolved or brought along.Even the "kill white people" thing isn't that interesting because you don't get to see the revolution start, you skip the story and the DLC retcons it so the black lady that started the whole thing was convinced to do it by other people, she didn't even really care enough about the racism to start the revolution herselfIt's just americans trying to "talk" about racism and completely pussying out.
>Liam:....they're calling him.....JEWNAFUNE!>Woolie, Pat, Matt: Woah, hey stop that. We aren't going there.
>>722595802Woolie is trying to actively kneecap his streams for the most part, like doing Expedition 33 with Reggie behind the wheel and him having played it, but also in the french dub which will kill views.
>>722590939Easy money from just playing video games and editing videos and not even that was good enough for them.>>722591238Bioshock Infinite was made for kids? Then why is it M for Mature gamers like myself?
>>722595990They were in literal tears over that
>>722593787I don't remember, but it doesn't have to be entirely about that specific pile. He could use it as a springboard to talking about the value of limiting the information available to the player and letting them fantasize about how the state of the world came to be. Could talk for hours about that.
>>722592575I had a video recommended of him talking about the thing or something like that for an hour or so. I didn’t click on it.
>>722596103I don't think he was talking about Bioshock but Banjo because that was a sub goal for him. He'd play Banjo in one sitting as a sub goal.
Before this thread dies, does anyone remember that time Pat went to the hospital because he simply refused to shit and it got clogged in his little anus and they had to give him an industrial strength enema to clear out his puckering asshole?I swear he brought this up on the podcast and suggested people "drink more water". Please tell me I'm not insane. This happened. Right?
>>722591979But he didn't say that. He said you enjoyed it in the same way a kid enjoys blue's clues. It is not a worthwhile measure of quality of a game that is meant to be for adults. That's his argument. It doesn't matter if you liked it as a kid because kids are dumb and retarded and will like most things given to them as their first experience.
>>722571494>I replayed it last yearIt's that simple
>>722595960It will never not piss me off that Fink and Suchong were just calling each other across realities to co develop plasmids and vigors and Vigors required ten times the amount of ADAM despite being in the sky and not in the ocean right next to the slugs like Rapture.
>>722595321Every person who has grown up outside their racial culture at some point in their lives is told they aren't real, that they lack some nonsensical juice that makes them inauthentic. It's like being told you can never be part of the club - and that creates a craving that for some people doesn't go away. Because it's human to want to belong, and when some asshole tells you that you don't fit in, it creates a sense of inadequacy.It happens with white people too. You're not white if you haven't gone camping; then it's not enough if you haven't fired a gun; then it's not enough if you haven't shot an animal; then it's not enough if you haven't travelled to shoot an animal. Black people tend to be criticized by how they carry themselves and there's a bullshit notion that if you haven't been to Africa you aren't black, same like Jews and Israel and Muslims and the Hajj.It's just sports teams and shitting on people for not cheering your team hard enough. I'm sure Woolie's family gives him shit for not being team black enough.
>>722592386The "Gwasses" is an OSW review reference from a WWF character that was a geek with broken glasses that was pushed around by other wrestlers and would go "He broke my gwasses" when they did that.
>>722596363I remember that. Don't remember the exact source, but it's hard to forget that talk.
>>722594609Why When I'm stuck whenever I'm streaming, I'll just say that I'll look it up/use cheats etc
>>722593443That's just any married man over 30 that doesn't have any skill or world experience to share or talk about. So 80-90% of the married population.
>>722571494>you didn't enjoy "thing" when you were still capable of enjoying "things"
>>7225714941. its a good point2. fuck you pat
>>722596363Yeah it happened - because Paige mentions that fuck-up. I can't remember if he said "drink more water" but that's definitely shit advice, which seems on par for Pat.Real advice, shit at least once every 3 days. Better every day. It takes time to get a rhythm. Shit stays too long you get polyps, which can lead to ass cancer, and ass cancer rates are going up for people in their 30s, which is fucking ridiculous as ass cancer is usually a 50s thing.
>>722596547Vigors don't seem to mutate you or at least not as fast which I guess is why they're more costly in ADAM and Suchong stuck with injections. What really got me was the attempt to course correct Daisy with the two Luteces saying >Dude you need to let Elizabeth kill you so she can have character development, so pretend to murder that child and let her kill you >Uh I don't get this at all but okay I guess
>>722596363Yea that happenedback in 2014 or 15 i believe
>>722595802>>722596056He needs really specific titles to get really hyped by himself. Disco Elysium was incredibly high energy for the whole playthrough and it's one of their most watched LPs.
>>722595321Its all he has
>>722596196He was talking about infinite.
>>722596548Thats all well and good but he has a child and is in his 40s now. Hes not some black rastafarian from grenada hes a nerdy guy from quebec who plays video games for a living and he still refuses to accept it
>>722597029That's because it has racism and Woolie loves joking about racism. He knew it was his game and he failed the skill check where you just say "you're black" to that one girl.
>>722590939To be fair, Matt used to be a lot more chill and actually more mature in the past, back in the early SBFP days. It feels like his ego exploded after he got his own channel and fame and transformed into this extremely obnoxious edgy internet clown whose entire personality revolves around hiding behind 8 thousand layers of cynicism. It's not only him. It feels like all the worst personality traits of each SBFP member have gotten infinitely worse after they split. It's like all of them progressively turned into caricatures of themselves over the years
>>722593443i remember when matt was the muh cat guyand then pats cat mogged his
>>722597153Well in that case I'm more inclined to agree cause it's a pretty mediocre shooter with a laughably bad story that got praised by people who'd never read a book before.
>>722590939>>722575841>I call it the bat gully gully
>>722597245To be fair, it's a pretty good game about racism. Infinite wished it had an ounce of the racism writing that Disco Elysium had.
>>722597304Pat has just fully embraced the whole being wrong shit in the worst way possible because everyone kept making jokes about it being like a JoJo stand.
>>722597370Infinite just wanted to pretend it had something to say about racism.Even Mafia 3 had enough sense to make a game where racism is prevelent actually have people use slurs.
>>722597236He'll have to make peace with it when his mixed kid doesn't really grow to care about Granada and the old stories and just be yet another Quebec kid. Much like every single other immigrant family in Canada and States figured out sooner or later.
>>722572445I think you should give it another tryYou only need 1 jiggy to get to the first level and it's really easy to find if you apply yourself
Woolie being triggered throughout the LA Noire LP is still funny as fuck.
>>722596056reggie is my nigger
>>722597554He's still triggered by Big Bo in Binary Domain, he can be a massive bitch about really specific stuff.
>>722596564I thought Gwassess was Kyle Schwartz from South Park.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DreFWJg5c2Y&t=76s
>muh PUNCHMOM
>>722571494what is there to respond, the game sucking and me enjoying it are not mutually exclusive. everyone likes at least one thing that most other people think sucks.>b-b-but that means your taste it shit--who cares?
>it's another Woolie complains about losing people in Mass Effect 2's SUICIDE MISSION episode
>>722597724Could be, but I know Matt is pals with the OSW boys and it was a recuring joke for a few months in their reviews, around the same time Matt started referencing their jokes in the LPs.
>>722597594After he came out of his shell he became funnier then Woolie. But I still don't get why he decided to do french dub for him. He's just going to lose viewers from people who don't care to watch frenchies talk.
>>722597886Well he's right about that shitty mission.
>>722597304they complemented each other AND called out each other on their shit back when they were just a group of friends. after zaibatsu collapsed this entire dynamic disappeared from their lives and so they started getting worse not only as entertainers on the internet but also as people. just my two cents
>>722571752Nice ass
>>722597886The only thing I'd agree with him on is how Mordin is the optimal person to send back with the crew, just because to me I figured you'd want a heavy or someone quiet like Thane to guide them back, not fragile scientist.
>>722597594>that time in BG3 when Reggie punchs him for fun and Woolie gives him the silent treatment like an angry girlfriend for 10 minutes straight while Reggies laughs his ass off
YOU FORGOT THE COOKIES?!
so who wants the big dumb sword???...
>>722598046I agree there but that one thing does not make the whole mission shit and I think there being some uncertain variables that the player is not privy to is what makes getting the best ending not a complete cakewalk. You're supposed to go in expecting to lose people.
>>722571889HAHAHAHAHA AMAZING
God supports straight shota
>>722598046Mordin is STG so he would also be used to clandestine operations, plus Chakwas is likely in no condition to treat anyone when she was nearly turned into goop herself.
Liam "Slick Willie" Allen-Miller
>>722598173I still love how dumb and petty some people got with their choices>"Miranda wants to lead a team? Fuck you I'll put Jack in charge... Oh no Tali's dead!"
>>722598046>>722598173>>722598285>Jacob volunteers willingly for the vent>Send him>He doesOnly casualty I ended up with and then I found out if you romanced that coon he cheats on you and gets a women pregnant lmao
THOSE SKY NIGGAS
>>722593159God I hope you're not lying, that would be to funny, plague is such a faggot
>>722572676>*BELCH* F-f-fun isn't real, MORTY! Y-you're just made of chemicals and upvotes!
>>722598418this is where the cloud niggers live
>>722598384>Having anyone but your homeboy Garrus in charge of squad twoThe biotic shield bit felt pretty obvious as well. Don't know if Miranda works for it but Jack is a suped up freak biotic and Samara is an old asari with hundreds of years of experience with biotics.
>>722593613Yeah, it's like over 20 years old.
say something nice about Matt's wife
dusama
>>722593613The cat outlived the fucking dog because they (apparently) had some pet hotel or something mind him for a bit and it fucking died there.He has a fucked up pug now with messed up front paws.
>>722598583AWOOOOOOOGAHUMINAHUMINAHUMINA*pant* *pant* *pant**bangs table*
>>722598583Hey, that's not a plate of spaghetti!
IT's also kinda weird /v/ likes infinite now that pat hates it considering how much /v/ used to hate that mediocre game
>>722571665SBFP
>>722571882Picross
>>722598736I still hate it and always hated it.
>>722595802Woolie is a good wingman, but a charisma vacuum on his own, he needs the strong leadership of a black man like Pat.
>>722598521Just Jack and Samara work, Miranda's interesting for the fact she can only die from being brought to the finale while unloyal iirc, that or if everyone else dies but I think she can hold the line solo and can't get swarmed in the biotic part (other person is always higher priority to be killed)
>>722598736I like the visual design of the setting. And the porn.
>>722598736>kinda weirdHow fucking new are you that you still haven't gotten it through your head that /v/ is populated by contrarians?
