When did everything go wrong with gaming?
>his hobby is to play video games made by others>thinks he's a "gamer"You are fake.Real gamer can make his own games and will if the market doesn't cater to HIS needs.
I don't feel this because I didn't play any modern games for a good five years at least since my graphic card exploded and I couldn't afford a console. Now that I have a beefy PC and a Switch, I have so many modern games to enjoy
The slop machines are fully built and all they have to do is keep it running.
Memes aside I would genuinely like to know if games are getting worse or if we're just getting old. Do late zoomers and gen alpha really enjoy modern games? Are they enjoying them as much as we enjoyed games back in the day? Is there any way to even know this? Can you objectively measure enjoyment?
X feels boring now is simply a matter of aging and personal saturation
>I keep playing modern peepeepoopoo games and I keep doomfagging bros! gayming is le over!!!Ok, just play old games then>NO BRO IT'S OVER, THERE'S NO POINTYou don't like video games, fuck off and kill yourself
>268 viewsBro fell off fr
Buy an ad, subhuman shitskin.
>>722576975>wojakAre these people finally realizing they never liked video games and fucking off now?
>>722577216>Do late zoomers and gen alpha really enjoy modern games?No. There's a huge increase in kids buying old tech because they want to play fun games.
>>722577216>Memes aside I would genuinely like to know if games are getting worse or if we're just getting old.Both.
>>722576975>Stop playing AAA slop Problem solved
>>722576975>Implying 2012 was good or any different than 2025
>>722577317>There's a huge increase in kids buying old techNo there isnt
>>722576975>i loved call of duty 6 and 7.... then it started going downhill with call of duty 10 and it was fully dead with call of duty 16...You don't hate PS360 babies enough.
>>722576975>yet another "i got bored of my hobby" threadThe problem is you. You got bored. Fix it yourself. Stop trying to make your personal issues other people's problem. Stop trying to make /v/ into a depression care home.Fuck off.
>>722576975>minecraft on the leftHoly shit I HATE ZOOMERSStop clicking on this dogshit clickbait
>>722577216nah, shit's too woke ngl no cap
>>722577216There's an entire retro movement on tik tok and such of zoomers using retro tech, watching/listening to retro media and wearing retro fashion. zoomers are bored with their own generation.
>Youtuber throws in wojaks for zero fucking reason>Youtuber thumbnail has drawn over memes for zero fucking reason >Video is a millenial/zoomer holding a mic and talking in front of a greenscreen/wall for 20-30 minutesSTOP FUCKING DOING THIS!!!!!!
2007. That was the year gaming was casualized and goyified beyond all repair.
>>722576975The end of voice chat.Without these naturally occurring fun moments with people in your lobby, it paved the way for YouTube which paved the way for streaming. But to get good at streaming, you have to be really good at the game.Bonus points for the end of game voice chats is that the metric for "fun" stopped involving shitting around with the enemy and lobby. The fun became from doing really good. No one is going to get overly excited over your kill cam anymore, you don't feel happy from the reactions and so the only metric is your K/D.
I'd tell you to buy an ad, but maybe you should buy a rope and neck yourself with it instead.
>>722577517>STOP FUCKING DOING THIS!!!!!!its proven to get clicksthey want to make moneyto do that they need clicksyou do the mathblame capitalism
>>722577542that was literally the best year you retarded zoomer
>>722577517Who watches this shit, man? Are zoomers really that afraid of silence?
>>722577650You are the zoomer.
>>722576975>I've been playing the exact same game (Minecraft) nonstop for over a decade >Why am I bored?
>>722576975horse armor
>>722577679Most zoomers have ADHD and these types of videos are mostly watched by people eating or shitting
>>722577216I'm 27, had a ps2 GBA N64 etc. Gaming has gotten so much fucking worse its unreal. I can write off multiple genres now as just being unfun trash.
>>722577516in the multiverse we will be known as the dimension that never left the eighties
>>722576975Well, the games suck. They're not made by a small team of passionate white men anymore. They are "products" made by large corporations hiring only diversity hires with absolutely no talent or passion.Not complicated.Buy a dirtbike
>>722576975It all started here.
>My ass smells of Shit>Wiping my Asshole>How my Asshole gets Shit on itLook I can make clickbait titles too and I'm not even a fucking youtuber.
>>722577216You can objectively measure how many games have cheat codes designed for the sole purpose of being fun
>>722576975Obama
Gaming died in 2008, you simply grew up
>>722576975>bros, CoD isn't fun anymore :(
>>722577216>Do late zoomers and gen alpha really enjoy modern games?It's not even close to the majority but tiktok has "2000s core" where late zoomers/early alphas post random shit from 2000s internet, frutiger aero aesthetic, and obsess over tech like the PSP and PS2 (mostly to show off in tiktok videos though not actually play on)
>>722577058Post the links to games you have made
>>722577836>white men>passionateheh
>>722577216Gaming is getting worse. I will find games I absolutely love here and there.It's not as simple as they are jsut bad games, These games have massive budgets, but they are made by talentless and passionless faggot divsdity hires.It's not like back in the day when a game was just a shit game, cause you could still enjoy shit games for their uniqueness.No, the slop they churn out now are for brainless NPC's, it's a product. Dragon age veilguard, starfield ect.
>>722577216People that grew up in the 90s were able to enjoy 2000s games. People that grew up in the 2000s were able to enjoy early 2010s games. So yes, games *are* getting worse, the industry got too big for its own good, and we're seeing the results of its overconsumeristic goal. It's gotten to a point that kids born in 2009 now look back and wish they grew up with the PS2.
>>722577516This always happens, generations will find old things and get obsessed with it for a bit, it's just more apparent now because the internet lets us easily find old things
The thing I don't get about this thumbnail is that duck and shoot military shooters with brown filters were a much bigger issue in 2012 than today.>>722577216They are genuinely worse in the AAA space but they'd been shit ever since big money got involved.
>Listen to my opinions on a videogame that I have played, I have an opinion, this game is very videogame, also why are games so much worse now?No I'd rather pour boiling coffee onto my erect penis
>>722576975we must play better games
>>722577479I second this message
>>722577216It’s both
>>722578001Are you retarded, Sukh Mandeep?
>>722578001You okay 3rd worlder? Mind getting the fuck out of my country and going back to your shithole? With your shithole family and ancestors? Fuckin parasite
>>722576975>I'm 25 now and I miss being a kid with unlimited free timeThat's it, sure gaming has gotten worse in some aspects mainly AAA and mobile shit, but on the flip side there are so many new fantastic games coming out, one of the biggest games this year was an indie, so it's pure nostalgia shit talking
>>722576975People would rather watch others play or talk about videogames than play them themselves
>>722576975>man repeats same thing>feels burn outMany such cases.
>>722578182That's just how streamer culture is
>>722578292Then why do I watch streamers who are playing games that I have already beaten
>>7225769752015
>>722576975>think I'm over gaming>buy a Switch>turns out I was just playing shitty games on PC which couldn't compare to NintendoIt's just that easy
>>722578370because there's something wrong with you
>>72257721628-year-old zoomer here, you're just getting old, there are still great games coming out in the past few years, like Elden Ring, BG3, E33...But then again, I exclusively play RPGs and that genre has only been getting better and better save for a few exceptions such as the Final Fantasy series
>>722577216the number of good games is about the same, there is just A LOT of derivative dogshit being produced
>>722576975>play nothing but souless AAA slop or live service garbage>"wtf dude, gaming sucks now"Do normalfags really?
>>722577216I still have fun playing games.I also have other hobbies in my life.
>>722578417lmfao
>>722578031well as a 90s kid I never saw that ever. There was way too much cool shit happening right now to be obsessed with the past. I'm not saying nobody appreciated things from the past but I never knew anyone who was obsessed with it and collected it.
What is with all this fucking youtube shilling
>>722578412I could say that about every single fat person on the planet, or anybody who smokes cigarettes or spends too much money on a BMW.You're saying nothing, you're a fucking idiot and I hope you get beaten by your parents.
>POLITICS>GAMBLING>TOIL>CHORES>NIGGERS
>>722578491There's verifiable proof that gaming youtubers visit /v/ and that they shill their shitty channels constantly.
>yet another video essay that is just over 10 minutes long
>>722577216AAA gaming has never been worse, but AA and indies are still putting out bangers.If you havent enjoyed even one of the games that came out this year youre just jaded and/or depressed. Or suffering from some serious case of contrarianism
>>722577058>thinks he's a "gamer"You don't actually call yourself that, do you? Like it's an identity? I just play video games.
>>722576975>When did everything go wrong with gaming?Williamsburg hipster culture took over the media including videogames in 2012- 2014. Look it up. This was the proto-woke. The writing was in the walls over 10 years ago. A lot of zoomers in this thread are too young to even know what a hipster is
>>722578685>posts image with 4 AAA games in it
>>722578417????? what fuckin rpg's are you playing? Take a peak at the ps1 and ps2 rpg library and say that again.I haven't seen a single goddamn rpg worth installing for nearly a decade. Tried expedition 33 and it got stale quick. Visions of mana and metaphor are the only ones I can think of that were good.
>>722578417>there are still great games coming out in the past few years>like Elden Ringkek anon...
>>722578417>Elden Ring, BG3, E33.none of these are good games
>>722576975I prefer just breaking and fixing cars in beamng over and over Then doing the same things to my shitboxes IRL lift kits muddies turbo swapsVidya is boring now I basically haven't played a new game besides Tokyo extreme and road craft
>>722577216welcome to cultural stagnation. the fact we have had diverse decades over the last century to begin with was an anomaly. throughout history an era could last 100s of years so there is a very real possibility that in the year 2234 everything will still look exactly the same as it does today.
>>722578143>>722578146baited
>>722577315Most consumers don't like games, they "like" playgrounds.
Zoomers aren't ready to accept that gaming was already dying before they even played their first ever game.
>>722577216Gen xy here they where fucking terrible in the early to mid 90s til the 3d boom now their turbo bad again thanks to the ai vr rt boom bust I don't think there's gonna be another paragrim shift in visuals or gameplay anytime soon it seems to be rather regressing from 5-15 years ago which was arguably the peak Insane ancient PCs with 8800gts and PS2/3 and Xbox 360 has 1080p 60fps games and 20-30 years later consoles still struggling with 30-60fps upscaled from 720p via dlss fsr dogshit
>>722577836based dirtbike enjoyer
>>722577247"A hobby is considered valid when the only good period makes up 1/10 of the overall life of it"you don't like the hobby. kill yourself
>>722577836Based if I didn't fuck my back on one I'd get right back on oneMight get a kayo 250 t4 soon tho
>>722578461Let me guess. You play stalker and stalker-likes, or some dota tier game that dropped 19 years ago. Or any other autistic game that means you dont have to engage with the actual gaming market
>>722578487people that were not kids in the 90s were into the 70s stuff tho att hat time
>>722577247I wish good modern games that actually utilize advances in modern hardware would come out>bro just play the finite, rapidly dwindling number of good games that already exist and you have already played most of then broNo, just make good modern games
>>722579161A gamecube game being on this list feels wrong but I guess the power of bing bing wahoo can overcome anything
stop burning all your dopamine receptors with vampire survivors clones and gacha trash
>>722579161>obama gets in>its all war fighter man after thattelling
>>722577216EVERYTHING is getting worse due to the internet movies, music, etcculture basically doesn't exist anymore the whole 'its just people thinking things were better in the past' or 'toxic nostalgia' is just major copethere are ebbs and flows to quality of culture, and we are currently in the most bottomless pit in history due to this new fangled tech called the internet which has been a greater paradigm shift in culture than anything before, books, radio, tv...nothing comes close to the upheaval caused by the internet its the great homogenization, everything becomes the same, all benefits go to a smaller and smaller group of people, everyone can see what everyone else is doing, there is no isolation that is crucial for innovation and creativity
>>722578461That's nice. Now compare a AAA game from 2025 to a AAA game from 2005
>>722579290>What do you mean you don't play the latest AAAA game made by a committee that costs $120 and has the same mechanics as the last AAAA game I played 2 weeks ago? Let me make up a bunch of things about you because the only thing I can do to make an argument is to completely fabricate everything about my new opponent. Why would anyone choose to engage with you? Are you 14?
>>722578919funny you say that because I've actually been playing a few PS2 JRPGs lately, namely FFXII more recently, and while it's a good game it doesn't hold a candle to more modern JRPGs (outside of the FF series, of course)games were limited in complexity and amount of content back then, even games considered by many as the "peak of the genre" like FF7 is extremely limited and lacking in content, compare that to say Xenoblade X DE that came out this year, full of content and complex mechanics they could never achieve back in the PS1 and PS2 era, or going back to my original post, Elden Ring is more complex than any PS1 or PS2 JRPGs, and to me what matters in an RPG the most is content and complexity, story is pretty irrelevant imo
>>722576975porn feels boring now : I remember having wanks at 14 and they were so much better than the ones I have nowporn just got worse I guess
>>722578417>Elden RingSouls games did an insane amount of damage to the games.
remember that vidya is still a young medium>vidya started in the 80s>just guys being dudes, making pac man and shit>in the 90s things got crazy>just guys being dudes, making doom and shit>the 00s were amazing, top tier games all around>in the 10s the senior devs were peaking>perfect blend of hardware and software, great visuals and gameplay>but uh-oh, financial crisis>and uh-oh, banks starting the subverting propaganda machine>all the white senior devs were laid off>studios hired activists instead>no more fun or original ideas, political correctness instead>outsource to india where code monkeys can't optimize for shit>we have super powerful gpus, but games look like ass and can't run smoothly without upscalingand now we are here
>>722578417play neverwinter nights 2
>>722579793>in the 10s the senior devs were peakingI can't believe we're at the point where zoomers are nostalgic for the shittiest era of gaming.
>>722579690for me it's looking at reviews for just regular action games and every single person is calling it a soulslike
>>722576975when zoomers became the target audience
2017 to now has been significantly better than 2008 to 2016. The only people I could see getting upset about the state of video games are retards who only consume AAA trash and F2P titles.
>>722577216'97 zoomer here, modern games are 90% garbage and I primarily play games from 6th gen and older.This is my backlog so far this year, the only modern game I've played through that wasn't a remake was Metaphor, and that was moreso a last year game, all I'm looking forward to are more Dragon Quest remakes, and I guess Kirby Air Riders is the only genuinely new game coming out, but its kind of an Air Ride remake in a sense. People like to shit on the constant remakes but the sad fact is that those are some of the only good games coming out nowadays.
>>722580445>kirby air rideoy vey
>>722576975Unironically 2015.
>>722577517The destruction of Youtube and the old internet in general can be traced back to this momenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEso1E8rWE
>>722576975when this change happened
2004-2008 was the golden age of video games.
>>722576975>What is Sacculina Carcini?>What does it to do crabs?>What happened between 2008 and 2012?>Why are antiparasitic drugs being discredited, banned and criminalized?
For me everything went to shit when i discovered League of Legends
>>722577216My 19yo nephew doesn't even play games. Just uses tiktok. My 10yo nephew has the original switch and played some pokemon games but "grew out" of games and plays sports with friends now instead.Meanwhile me a mid-30 something millennial just played final fantasy 10 (developed in 1999, released in 2000) recently for the first time and it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. It's very clear it's modern games that are bed.
>>722576975I remember hearing that the people behind these types of videos typically play about 3 giga mainstream games.
>>722576975I'm 38 years old and I still enjoy gaming. Maybe it's because I'm a wageslave, so I rarely get to play a lot. Or maybe I'm just stupid and have low standards, idk.
>>722576975You zoomers got older. I still enjoy playing video games, but it is not nearly as fun as when I was a kid. That applies to everything though, not just video games. The only thing that I actually enjoy more than as a kid is food.
>>722579793I point to Arkham Knight as the point in time where games REALLY started declining in quality. It may not be 100% accurate, but that's when it became obvious to me.
>>722579214What a fucking retarded thing to say. Space games are almost entirely fulled with finished spaceships and shooting. And yet there are only a handful of space games about designing a ship, getting it not to crash, and then building satellites.There is you 1/10 games you shot for brains
Back in my day, we used to play a game for months, if not years. Now it's Ubislop that you beat in a week, or an endless battle pass treadmill that's miles wide and two inches deep. It's like how Netflix churns out mini series that you can watch in a week and completely forget about and have no desire to ever watch again. There is more content than ever before, and it's more meaningless than ever before.
>>722577627Cool it with the bait faggot
>>722583776People don't seem to realize that just because a game has a 300 million dollar budget doesn't mean the game is going to be good or that 90% of the money goes to marketing/advertising
>>722577216'04 zoomigger here. there are good games once in a while. plus being tired from work (well, "work", 40 hour/week internship) really makes games last. im slowly getting better at Frostpunk 1 now, planned on playing SotN after that.
>>722577216this is just normalfaggots that only eat up the newest mainstream shit finally getting tired of eating slop. because of their terminally shit taste they are too retarded to turn to retro games, and so they are stuck with the slop market they helped build and are getting disillusioned with it.
>>722577854c can i watch your videos anon?
>>722582313>Mid 30s>Enjoying FFXJesus anon. Don't tell your significant other that or they'll never let you fug again.
>>722579290not engaging with the actual gaming market because its full of shit? how could anyone????
>2012
>>722578409
>>722576975This shit engine in particular is ruining gamesEvery game feels, look and plays the same.Immersion ruined, aesthetics ruined, originality ruined, performanced ruined, visuals ruined.
Meanwhile back then the board called those games shit tooTurns out the problem is caused by aging!
>>722584273>This shit enginefgt pic
>>722578409literally this.i had two friends that were bored of gaming. i told them they should start playing Nintendo games and they recovered from it.
>>722583776LMAO most modern AAA games are just bloated as shit meaningless empty worlds.
>>722577216The problem is realism and 10 years to make a game
>>722579612This. It used to be the most attractive women you could find (within reason). Now it's the most obvious trailer trash/hoodrat methed out of their minds engaging in the most cartoonish kinks. Oh, and do you wanna see le BBC? No? Well the third worlders do so now we've spammed every category with it.
The good thing about vidya is they can't take away omd games. I'm just playing diablo, daggerfall, etc lately Also diablo 4 is good game
Peak Halo popularity was still the worst era for games ever.At least we have better variety now. At least whatever your particular niche is, someone will be catering to it, and the game will be easily available.
>gaming sucks now!!!!>nobody bothering to realize they're comparing their childhood to adulthood>nobody bothering to realize they're comparing a time where they at worst had school and homework to a time where they have to spend 40+ hours a week working to pay bills and living in an increasingly bad hellscape>election tourists inevitably jumping at the chance to spam culture war slop in the thread
>>722577216>all these doomposting replies saying that games suck now>only reply that got (You)s is the anon that said he still enjoys new gamesGoddamn, you're a miserable bunch of people. You can replay the old stuff and still enjoy the new, it's not a choice between the two.
>>722577216It's both. And getting old is rather being overstimulated from doing it too much. Take a 6 month break from any vidya and you'll come back and play shit that'd bore you in minutes normally.
>>722576975>When did everything go wrong with gaming?you can see it right here. i saved you 12 minutes of your time so you wont have to watch it.
>>7225769752007
>>722584130you don't even need to play retro games. Just play other games, Play something vaguely less mainstream than Assassin's Creed.
>>722585012>da video games stopped suicides guiz!!!Peak retard
>>722584790We wouldn't be so miserable if the world wasn't in such a miserable state.
>>722584776Nevermind that the content treadmill conditioning and predatory (proto-)mobile buisness practices proliferated across the industry by the MMO genre, the reckless cutting of corners that's resulting in the regression of technology and barely minimally viable products, the parasocial engagement milling, the live service turbofaggotry and the MTX-centric "design" propped up by +20yrs of marketing research amount individually and in combination to psychological abuse and exploitation, not to mention planned obsolesence.
>be me>too old to be a stupid zoomer>play game - it's fun>play another game - it's fun>stupid zoomers depressed because new Halo, CoD and Battlefield are apparently "so different" to the old ones (they aren't)ok
>>722576975Gaming is boring now!>Only plays the the most popular and shilled games.
>>722585127>>faggot cant argue with facts so he throws the hard r
>>722582313>Meanwhile me a mid-30 something millennial just played final fantasy 10 (developed in 1999, released in 2000) recently for the first time and it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever hadGiga based, you're a patrician and a scholar who understands a good story when he sees one
>>722579161Problem is I go back to try those old games, and they are undeniably simple and annoying to play.
>>722576975Around 2006. Here around 2011.
>>722585293yeah shit's fucked on both fronts
>>722585540there is a fine line between flexing your neurons for relaxation and doing it for work. and modern gaming is being stuffed full of busy work.
>>722585748>facts are my retarded correlation equals causation logicRetard
>>722585540>be (You)>retarded streetshitter paid a pittance to shill the latest minimally viable EA triple-ass turboslop>barge into random thread>hamfist the product into a reply>add some generational D/C to bait a responseI am stopping here, simply these few lines are enough to prompt you to contemplate why a stranger on the internet gives you more attention than your parents have done all throughout your miserable life.
>>722577216I'm an early zoomer and I decided to play Mega Man X1 for the first time and my goodness I haven't had so much fun in a 2d platformer before. One of my favourite games of all time and I say this as someone that has no nostalgia for SNES games.
>>722579161Jesus, what a grim image.
>>722585948Bro, play different games.What's wrong with you? No one's forcing you to buy all of those open world games. You can just play Sonic Racing or something.
>>722576975western companies no longer make attractive games
Games have never been better.You have access to every good game ever released in addition to numerous (usually indie) games releasing every year. Just stop playing AAA dogshit and you'll be fine.
>>722577424>he doesn't know
>>722576975
>>722586019>>facts are my retarded correlation equals causation logicwe are not talking about cause here, nigger.we talk about the point in time when it started.
>>722579161I'm surprised BOTW/TOTK sold so "little" compared to all the casual shit that isn't even good
>>722577216AAA, very rarely unless they're normies that barely touch their gaming systems. Normal gamers, only if it's rarely good, or actually grabs the individual interest.Most stock is placed in the indie scene now, and AA. From published Indies to lone wolves, to those that do it for hobby or art rather than money, There's more variety there right now than AAA.AAA is just the eternal milking facility of beloved franchises.
>>722585293Stop being miserable and go play some video games.
Anons, tell me the last fun game you played. Bonus points if it's less than 10 years old.
>>722586610>Anons, tell me the last fun game you played.I can't remember.
>>722586610I don't play vidya anymore
>>722579161this goes so hard with this post...>>722585012
>>722586610I played Cryptark yesterday.
>>722577479Is it any better than the street corner all the tweakers hang out at to scream at people?
Roblox
>>722586123>latest minimally viable EA triple-ass turboslopWhich game even is that, anon?The last games I played were Taiko, and Judgement(2018). Before that I played Expedition 33, and a bit of Super Mario Wonder. Shortly before that, Alan Wake 2. These are good games.I haven't even cracked half of the games I've bought recently. I have Robocop, Metal Slug Tactics, Jagged Alliance 3, Sand Land, the latest Warioware. They all look pretty good. And even if they aren't, I got them cheap, and I can resell them, so I don't give a fuck. They will give me two to three hours of enjoyment, at the very least.Still haven't even played Salamander 3.
>>722586463>we talk about the point in time when it started.And you using retarded correlation to think people started killing themselves cause their toys were no longer fun.Peak retard
>>722586610Elminage. Mordheim. Endless Legends 2. Dark Deity 2. Xenoverse 2. Xanadu Next. Minstrel's Song Remake. Emerald Beyond. Frontier remake.All that is just off the top of my head. No I don't care if you don't like them that would just out you for having shit taste.
>>722578417>every reply proving his point
>>722586610fallout 4
>>722579290holy strawman batman
>>722576975desu, gaming was always bad.
>>722586610FFT
>>722578417Elden Ring and BG3 were the only good
>>722586463it started during the 2008 financial crisis you fucking moron
>>722586610currently taking a short break from playing AC6
>>722586610Ninja Gaiden Ragebound
I bought GTA V cuz it was on sale and it's honestly boring as fuck (and easy as fuck too). Gaming has been fucking dead for awhile, and by dead, I mean consolized, baby shit, stale concepts. I haven't seen any kind of unique game outside of random indie slop.
>>722586842
>>722585012The rise coincides perfectly with the invention of Facebook and the rise of social media. Zuck is responsible for more death than anyone else in human history.
>>722578485>I still have fun playing games.>I also have other hobbies in my life.This. I took up drawing and reading and it enhances vydia. Can't imagine just only gaming for how dogshit the modern AAA games are and how much online vydia tries to addict you with bullshit
>>722581058> you play a good game from the early 2000s: 15 people in the credits> you play a buggy but decent game from the late 2010s: 150 people in the credits
>wojakshit>the bandwagoner doesn't like that the time of his bandwagon passed
>>722577216Anyone saying it isn’t demonstrably worse is overdosing on copium
>>722586610astlibra
>>722587716the stories, maybe, but the gameplay hasn't changed much.
I don't know, I'm watching Yoiyoi nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMU7HudtgH4
>>722577517>holding a micThat’s a red flag
>>722577216There hasn't been a good video game released this decade.
>>722587716we're not back in the golden age of 1990-05, but we are somewhere better than the shit ages of 06-13, or thereabouts.
>>722577216Anons, don't read Filterworld. It scared the shit out of me and said how social media has flattened culture to be homogenized and how it may have flattened the zoomer generation. There will be nothing new within a society's culture under the mass influence of social media. Made me reflect on the vydia industry and it all makes so much sense.
>>722587786Modern gameplay is casualized garbage.
>>722587965nah you were just worse at games when you were a kid
>I hate video games and I'm depressed thread #1742These threads are always so gay, fucking get over yourselves.
>>722587404Your point is retarded
>>722576975ironic given that gaming was already shit by then. his pic should replace 2012 with 2004-5 which was the tail end of the best generation
>>722583063Food never gets old.
>>722579510
>>722579510it's looking good to me, I get more sexy anime chicks than ever
>>722586610Incision. It's a boomer shooter released earlier this year and exactly what an FPS should be.>Unique style >Good OST>Defined enemies both in appearance and roles>Fantastic level design with good secrets>The basic weapon roster with their own unique twists>Better yet, they have alt fires that are both original and take influence from other shooters>Show not tell story that isn't in your face>Actually good boss fightsThe only thing I could think of that might be a downside is the life system. You reset lives each level and can stack maybe 5 per level and they can easily contain 120 enemies minimum. If you can beat Quake 1 and Doom 1 and 2 without save scumming each level on the hardest difficulty then you should be able to beat this. I did on the second hardest difficulty and found maybe 1 level, which was a boss fight, to be annoying. Otherwise>git gud shitter
>>722586610I have platinum 5 games already and enjoyed every single one including neo the world ends with you I have played every genre too.
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>>722579510Oh my sweet deary anon, when you realize this is only the beginning as for our lord and master AI with a Dispensation to our worlds energy resource allocation will make culture better again. The idea guys will save us as well as jeets in rooms coding them
>>722577216Video games used to be pick up and play even multi-player but now you have to sign up for accounts, go through a noob training period, follow the meta, etc. Etc. There's so much dogshit in the way and in general the games themselves aren't even as good.
>>722579510>we are currently in the most bottomless pit in historyso far.
>>722586610Cyberpunk 2077 for the first time since it was on sale. Having alot of fun and friday is the bf6 release and im sinking 1k hours into that guaranteed.
>>722589197You don't know what that even means, pathetic
>>722585012
burned out loser making his misery everyone elses problem you wouldnt be this burned out if you hadnt consumed so much slop over the years this is what no standards gets you
>>722577650God Hand and Portrait of Ruin, aka the best games ever made were from 2006
>>722577992>Needing physical games.
>>722576975I actually was just about to make a thread on this>online discussion is dead, any critique towards a game is met with "it's not that serious bro" or "skill issue" or "let people enjoy things">new releases are competing with the ever growing backlog of games we haven't yet played>first party games are becoming more stale than ever>general gaming community more concerned with storyslop than actual gameplayit's becoming so tiresome. luckily there are plenty of older games that i haven't played, but I've refunded >50% of games I've purchased recently.
>>722579510Vsauce made a video recently called All the ghost you will be and he literally touches this at the end without directly mentioning it. Saying things like the future isn't what it used to be.
>>722577216Theres a lot of games i been playing and liked. Right now im playing Conscript, Pizza Tower and TBOGT. You gotta understand that nowdays this board is more like /vpol/ and its about complaining about politics that actually talking about videogames.
>>722577216I'm 27 and games are better than ever if you're an indiechad.
>>722577216Lets see. Conservatives chase you away so you became the lonely autist who is into gaming, anime as women wont fuck you. This means you obviously become a lolbert or lib. 9/11 happens the world's progression stops as people stop trusting each other. Whatever you still have your bidy gems. 2007 happens, aka the nerd's razor, where bullied kids become powerful. Hilariously enough your bidy gems start to decline too as normalfags become the target audience, with shitty devs who hate games. Wall street happens, you and many grow out of the le snek meme. Kekservatives you, so do libs, and Ron Paul is a failure.Quality of life tanks, escapism becomes norm. India and china from a joke becomes a real competitor, they get access to the internet and so do many thirdies. Entertainment quality plummets harder, so you get tired of it, as you get more identity and racial awarness. You realize gaming is done, and the last bastion are mobile games, which were the butt end of the joke 10 years ago.
>>722580445>There anons ITT who actively check off an actual "backlog" like a grocery list
>>722577216As a zoomer nothing comes close to mario and zelda speedruns.
I want to give up and get into Indie give me recs.
>>722590315>posts dogshit tranny gameOpinion discarded
>>722585870>simple>annoying to playnigger what fucking game are you going back to on the top section that is annoying to play besides DKC
gaming is the best it's ever been.
>>722577058Hi, FAGoon>>722590109>LE PHYSICAL GAMEZ!!!Post link to download your virtual game.
>>722583871>movies do shit business>movies about frogs do well for whatever reason>movies start being about frogs, movies that feature them do well>ugh why are these fucking annoying directors making these frog movies, theyre everywhere>money?>no, no that cant be it... they must be doing it to annoy me specifically...
>>722577216>I would genuinely like to know if games are getting worseModern gaming has:Charging you to customize your character Paid skinsCharging you for revives Battle passesSubscriptions and hiding the cancel buttonMTX80$ gamesCustom servers goneRampant cheatingGaaSGachaObfuscation with multiple in game currenciesAlways onlineIntrusive DRMs, DenuvoMagazines goneGames adding shitty filters that make the image worseRereleases of shameless copypasted games left and rightYou'll own nothing and be happyIps being bought and killedCut content on release to be sold as DLCGames having way too many dlcs making their full price ridiculous (the sims) And remember that now games are designed around maximizing all the monetization practices, instead of being designed to be fun.Now you tell me if you think gaming is worse now or not.
>>722577216Big western triple AAA games are at the worst they've ever been. Indie devs are still doing good work though.
>>722578935Elden ring is a masterpiece
>>722592062a masterpiece thats almost 4 years old
>>722576975It's YOU nigga!
>>722591519true, just look at this beautiful graphics, such big gamingplease ignore the horrendous boring difficulty and overall setting, just look at the pretty pictures and consume product
>>722591854Tell more more about what the apples in your head make you say
>>722591519
>>722592115And? A masterpiece is timeless
>>722577216Aging might affect our enjoyment some, but games are undeniable shit. So are movies and tv shows. Everything is fucking stale and safe. Everything costs hundred of millions of dollars to make so nobody is allowed to experiment. Just do the same fucking thing or remake old popular thing
>>7225861232015-2024>everyone that disagrees with me is a shill!!!!2025-?>everyone that disagrees with me is an indian shill!!!!!!!
>>722590908Nigger you gotta be more specific than that. You want new games, old games, games in a certain genre?
>>722576975>When did everything go wrong with gaming?Culture just shifted. That era of 2008-2013, the third person shooters in a semi-grounded setting, i miss that. The jokes were edgy, the characters were trading cynical banter, the chicks were hot and the action was bloody. That was my shit. Still is. The industry just stopped making those games.
>>722592368>That era of 2008-2013, the third person shooters in a semi-grounded setting, i miss that.No idea if this is bait or I really am that fucking old that people are looking back on this with nostalgia.
>>722576975Being a regular poster and user of /v/ makes you hate games. Leave this place and you’ll realise how happier you are
>>722592368>third person shooters in a semi-grounded setting?
For me gaming is better. There's so much that I can play that I have difficulty deciding, and every option is high quality. When I was a kid or teen I was pretty much only limited to getting games on christmas or birthdays, and if someone got me a game as a gift it was 6/10 shovelware the majority of the time.
>>722592543But i liked that back then too. Singleplayer, third person, stealth action, military/sci-fi setting, brutal takedowns. That is my shit. Watching my dude just eviscerate some clueless guard is fun.
>>722578487i was a 90s kid and when i was a teen i restored my dad's old atari 2600 which was retro at the time. it sucked.
>>722586610Dying Light: The Beast
>>722592368>That era of 2008-2013, the third person shooters in a semi-grounded setting, i miss that.that was the exact moment when everything went to shit dumbass
>>722592860>that was the exact moment when everything went to shit dumbassNo it went to shit when studios stopped making iterative sequels and instead kept their games in pre-production for so long that everybody is wondering if that game is cancelled and the series is just dead.
There has not been a meaningful addition made to gaming that wasn't actively anti-gamer since 2013. Just stop playing them unless it's something you really want to.in 2025 if you're playing a game that you just play hours of a week for the sake of playing *something* you're doing it wrong.
>>722592860>both are full of shooters and rpgs>but the 360 one is LE BAD because a game that went with an addon is there
>>722576975>39 minutes agoBuy an ad
>>722577216alpha just play nothing but roblox and minecraftdont know what zoomers play these days but it was fortnite and minecraft couple of years ago
>>722592169i dont have apples, i have tiny shrimp that employ a sophisticated series of levers, ropes and pulleys like a fly system for a theatre
>>722592340Ill take both old and new indie in the genre of whatever is monster hunter is or give me just a rec of a favorite game that you liked that was indie and I'll look into it
>>722579014the biggest anomaly was the 90s. the early, mid, and late 90s all felt cultually like 3 different decades, afterwards these eras have startred expanding again. 2001-2007 was 1 era, 2007-2014 was another, then 2014-2020, and now the post COVID era has all felt pretty much the same. just shittier and shittier.
>>722579194>they where fucking terrible in the early to mid 90s til the 3d boomyou aren't a gamer.early 90s games were god tier. 3d ruined gaming.
>>722586610AI Limit was fun.Reverse Collapse, too.
>>722577216Its neither, you guys are just insuferable faggots. I'm 32 and i still enjoy many games that come out each year. /v/ is just filled with depressed, porn-addicted, politics-obcessed schizophrenics who only like chinese gacha trash, so of course they'd think all modern games suck
>>722578417>bg3, e33Turnslop faggot
The very moment it became a socially accepted hobby.This is the only reason. Expose anything to a wider, less educated audience, and it will inevitably turn to shit.
>>722586610Zuma Deluxe
>>722584452Women overall are just less attractive as well.The "Freshman 15" used to be a college meme, now its high school, and it's like the "Freshman 50". Chicks are getting fat before they are even legal. They mar themselves up with disgusting unfeminine tatoos, and give themselves the least visually appealing haircuts they can.
>>722591856>Cut content on release to be sold as DLCThey did this with ESO when I started as a khajit pre dlc and got locked out of Elsweyr later on and was put in high rock until I payed for the expansion. Fuck those niggers
>>722576975>WAAAAAAH I HATE GAMES NOWNo gives a fuck if you are a depressed retarded man reaching his 40s.
>>722577247This. I'm having a blast playing old horror games on emulators (and mind you I only play them on October because it's a tradition of mine). These losers just want everyone else to be as miserable as them.
>>722594108>minecraft>2012>peak of gamingI don't think that's a millennial
>>722577216For the most part, games are on average better in a vacuum than they were. But that doesn't really matter. People don't enjoy the same things being fed to them forever, even cake gets old if you eat it at every meal every day.Until the end of the 7th console generation (360/ps3) you were seeing pretty consistent iterations on genres, new gameplay norms, dramatically better graphics every couple of years and it kept things interesting.Now the thing that keeps games engaging is psychologists hired to keep a single game as addictive as possible in an effort to monetize it as much as possible for as long as possible.
>>722586610Uma Musume Pretty Derby. I got my wife Mejiro McQueen to the URA Finals but couldn't win it.
>>722594226It's probably a zoomer in his mid twenties then. It's just as bad either way.
>>722576975If you want the opinion of someone who's been consistently gaming for at least 33 years, I can provide some insightIf you're just looking for (You)s, this is all you'll get from me
>>722594328>generic gacha slop with generic anime girls #120199Kill yourself.
>>722594340Worse, even, mid 20s is way too soon for a mid life crisis, even your late 30s is pushing it
>>722594421I think it's worse if you are a millenial because at least if you are one you grew up with old games and definitely know where to get them and play them so you have no excuse to not go back to old games, or check other old games you never had the chance of playing while you were a kid. Zoomers are victims of the modern gaming industry.
>>722577216I have been playing Hogwarts Legacy and the game is really well made for what want's to accomplish. You can even btfo the Ugandian girl and have other bros following you during the main mission.It suckes there is no quidditch, but overall it's a fun game in the Harry Potter world. Ah, I bought it for 10 bucks. You should never buy games at day 1 or for more than 20$ (on PC). Pirating is allways an option.
>>7225769752012
>>722576975When consultants took over, decided that we're not allowed to enjoy games, and instead decided that everything we play must be a social re-education tool.
>>722576975fuck off with this doomer shit
>>722588119>JUST IGNORE THE PROBLEM AND CONSUME THE SLOP, GOYDon’t like these threads? Then advocate for better vidya so we won’t have to make them. That is, unless you’re happy with the current state of the industry
>>722594723what happened in 2012?
>>722577216Late zooomer, im having more fun now than during the 360/ps3 era, Indies got most of what I need
games 100 gb or higherconstant patches that can make the game worsemicrotransactions and loot boxesunreal engine 5
>>722594421These things vary by generation, zoomers are oversocialized and were completely lied by boomers and millenials, they were taught all the puritanical/woke (same thing) bullshit only to discover it was all a lie, their mid life crisis is just them discovering how the world really works
>>722577840SC makes more sense desu, scene props should not interfiere with gamplay
>>722576975Has any game franchise changed over the last 13 years? Or even the last 25? Eventually you will get bored of the game type, you've seen it all, there's no more room for innovation, and game industries play it safe. Gaming has also become so widespread and normal that a person who picked up gaming in 2012 could have 12 fun years with it, but for the MUCH smaller circles who played games in 2000 could already be bored with it by 2012. If the sentiment of games being boring becomes popular, then it's also because of market saturation. And if people have more and more time to play video games, they become boring because their time is saturated with the same things.Humanity desires the future.
Wait until gta 6 "saves" the industry
>>722594630There are so many games at this point you can lag behind multiple years, grab things on sale later and never run out of videogames. Except maybe multiplayer stuff if you really want to play with friends/while the game is aliveHell I still have a list of games from 80s and 90s I want to play at some point
>>722576975>go from playing Minecraft to paying 80$ for the same game with the same committee design and the same mechanics and the same world and same characters and same story and same style over and over and over and over againGaming didn't become boring, you did. Just go back to playing indie games and you'll start seeing actual new games again.
>>722577216>722577216if you have to ask this question and you don't know the answer immediately it shows you're a stupid cattle consoomer and need to kill yourself
>>722576975>Everything is bad & boring now>Wojak
>>722577216My little sister and her zoomer friends only care about indieslop and roblox
>>722576975gaming was long dead by 2012, zoomerino
>>722576975>>722577216They got worse when you decided to give up on Christ and do the best you can to remove Him from every single facet of entertainment or just any thing in general you interact with to the point you're left with nothing but the misery brought on by the Devil and you STILL don't see that, you just try your best to look literally anywhere else and find anyone else to blame for this but your own selves for allowing this to happen in the first place, which led to more of these Godless heathens getting into the field and creating crap that does not speak to the soul in any way whatsoever at all, it's all just meant to be made for the sake of money and fame. You idolize these things to the point that even if whatever you're engaging with is clearly gone to all hell and is not enjoyable at all anymore, you will keep on consuming it because you're chained down to this like the slaves of sin and corruption that you are. You nearly come to realize what's always been true, that you do not want any of this actually, and that your own actions, or in some cases, inactions led to this kind of thing, but now you feel powerless to do anything against it or break away from engaging with it, even when it's bad, you still take the opportunity to just entertain yourself with shitting on bad media instead of rejoicing in good one, because you're quite literally shackled down by demons in your sin and trained by them to unconsciously every single feeling of negativity you get as some kind of dopamine hit or just reaction, as in, "meh, who cares whether it's good or bad, at least I'm feeling something, lol. at least I'm getting a thrill out of it."Seek Christ first and then you will be saved and able to enjoy things again as you were always meant. He will take back His Creation, every facet, away from the grasps of Evil and into his hands. He will redeem every part of it that exists so that you may enjoy it in full without any form of issue ever again, as intended.
>>722593410You need to fire them. That makes ot to complicatedYou need to keep it shrimple, stupid
>>722594781Just the concrete hardening that was laid down 6 years earlier >>722594841Don't forget those 100 gig games are unplayable out of the box without Internet, the mandatory online for some games EVEN IF YOU NEVER ACTUALLY FUCKING PLAY ONLINE, GaaS, and hollow specfaggotry that is broadly accepted as compensation for a widespread lack of developmental effort
>>722577216It's not strictly a case of "old good new bad", new games that are good come out all the time, but most people only hear about the big budget, hardball advertised AAA blockbusters, which are bad because the developers have ossified and are riddled with bureaucratic corruption hampering their ability to make something fun. Indie and AA put out fun games all the time, even AAA occasionally, very rarely, puts out something good.Read up on the gaming crash of the 1980s, the industry has seen this before, and it's seeing it again, it's just taking longer to play out this time because it wasn't a multi-billion dollar industry back then.
>>722576975It started in the PS360 generation, but since that was just the beginning the games from that time were largely spared the worst of it. The decline was truly pronounced starting with the PS4 and Xbone generation, those consoles came and went with hardly a single good game in their libraries and it's somehow even worse with the PS5 and XSX.>>722594951>Or even the last 25?Yes, try actually playing some games from 2000 if you don't think so.
Is there any reason why gaming became more antisocial? Back in the 2004 days you used to my friends almost daily on Xbox Live with CoD or Halo. Nowadays no one cares or speaks. Is it just because we were kids back in the early 2000s and now as adults we don't care to make friends? But surely the people who are kids now are making friends online?
>>722576975Everything went wrong when you started being chronically online on /v/ instead of actually playing games. That and microtransactions.
>>722594328based. you'll get 'em eventually
>>722589767
for AAA it's the live service model. money that used to get poured into developing new games is now funneled into slightly iterating a 10 year old game.in the indie sphere i don't really think there are any problems at all.>>722595785in 2004 talking to your friends online was an amazing new technology. now it's boring.
>>722595785>Nowadays no one cares or speaksThey're on voice call in discord or some other third party voice chat.
>>722576975Played modded stalker (og game, not the shit ue5 sequel)for like 7 hours yesterday. just stop playing mainstream slop lol
This year has been the most fun I've had in games since I was a kid lol
>>722595785>why gaming became more antisocial?Blame social media, and the industry's endeavors to gut couch co-op, and force any online capabilities, opening the door to the magical world of subscriptions, dlc, and any other nickel and dime shitSupplement that with the infusion of winning obsessed normies back in gen 7, and nobody is on to have a good time anymore, you either devote literally all your downtime to being in the top ranks, or you get shit on by the former and either give up or sit through the abuse to become one of themIt's a vicious cycle, where the only real winner is the developer/ publisher
>>722595628>those consoles came and went with hardly a single good game in their librariesDamn you are one retarded moron. The ps4 has a mountain of good games
>>722595332Wish they were here instead of you
>>722596141>They're on voice call in discord or some other third party voice chat.Party chat is cancer. I remember when you played in solo games on Call of Duty it would forcefully kick you out of party chat.
>>7225769752007 like everything elseit was when they found out that serving bullshit games on facebook is a moneyprinter
>>722596542Whatever you think of it is irrelevant, that's what the kids are doing these days, and really, it's not their fault you're an old man and not in their social circles, you shouldn't want to be anyway.
>>722577216It's not hard to enjoy things when you are an IRL newfag because you have no way to measure it against anything elseThat's they they will play garbage Dead By Daylight clones on Roblox and think it is the best shit ever, they literally don't know any betterIt's only later when you can put everything into perspective that you can spot overall trends and quality
>>722580790Pewdiepie is the single biggest factor why youtube and the old Internet is so shit now, he started the entire trend.
>>722595628My first game was Ducktales 2 on the NES, and I don't think that 2D platformers have evolved too much since. A platformer fan would disagree of course. I think it's the same with any game. In my eyes Halo hasnt changed at all since 2. BF6 is just an upgrade to BF3. Turn based games are turn based games. I do like to play, but I want MORE
>>722595785I talk all the time on discord. Gen A gets such little social interaction outside of school. They want to talk, not type.
>>722595452>jew on a stick that openly welcomes migrantsNo. I denounce the Holy Spirit.
>>722597006That is profoundly unwise
>>722577216You are just getting old. New games like Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring or Expedition 33 are as fun as any older game for a young person. Everyone feels that their hobby was more fun back in the day. The Bills and the Ravens played one of the best football games of all time a couple weeks back, and yet you can go online and see people posting about how the NFL stopped being fun decades ago. This shit isn't new at all. Its the same as it ever was. You get old, you get jaded, you stop enjoying things like you used to.
Games are so much better nowadays. 2009~2014 were incredibly bad years with all the UE3 slop, and 2014~2018 were the absolute fucking worst. I legit thought PC gaming was going to die. 2016 was so abysmal I almost quit gaming altogether.Games started getting better in 2019 and have reached peak quality in 2023-2025.
>>722597182So is letting in millions of illegals but every denomination seems to be ok with it.
>>722577216I'm 22 and modern games largely don't interest me at all. A couple games this year interested me, but next year there's nothing I care about.
>>722596404They do post on /v/ddit
>>722578487The 90s saw a huge 60s revival that was a part of the whole grunge movement.
how retarded do you have to be to be unable to self reflect on the absolute most basic level and not understand that you change and function differently than you did with 14. Even the most remote niglet in the middle of Africa has this ability.
>>722597006>No. I denounce the Holy Spirit.Actual jews and trannies do, which one are you?
>>722579836The only reason to touch that is for the community campaigns.
>>722576975When you stopped being a kid, just like with everyone else
>>722597415If this was true then the old games should objectively be as bad as the new ones when you play them
>>722597625Not true, I was pleasantly surprised by octopath traveler, fantasian, and untitled goose game
>>722597415>it's you not the industry!!!!monumental zoomer cope btw.
>>722597425Neither. Fuck kikes, fuck trannies. Now what?
>>722579161Why are you acting like shooters aren't an amazing genre that is popular because its better? No one gives a fuck about your ceral box mascot platformers or shitty waifu simulator RPGs. They want to play a fun game. Shooters are the most skill based genre.
>>722576975I blame normies. They are literal npcs
>>722596270Its whats so retarded about online vydia prioritizing compfags over just having fun. TF2 is not perfect but its game design did well in not becoming a shitter fest for the majority of time thats why it cranks 40k daily
>>722583776No, you were just a child whose parents didn't want to buy you a bunch of games.
I bet the reason why most of the older zoomers think gaming sucks now is because all of their friends either don't have time to play anymore or they straight up ditched the hobby altogether >t. older zoomer
Why is it all the people who make youtube essays about video games being sad and boring now are people whose base game is minecraft or roblox? Have none of these retards picked up an Atari controller? You ever play pong for 9 hours straight? Naw I doubt you have, you played Rocket League or whatever flavor of the month game was on twitch.
>>7225769752012 was a horrible year for games. It was so bad that the Walking Dead, a glorified visual novel, won the normie game awards. You zoomers make me physically fucking ill and I’m glad that home ownership at a reasonable age is out of reach for most of your generation.
>>722597862Ah okay you are just a golem, controlled opposition to sow division for them.
>>722586610Silksong literally came out under a month ago. If you can't have fun with that, you're the problem.
>>722598119Because they are mostly zoomers who act like nostalgic millenials for some reason.
>>722576975Zoe Quinn
>>722597415>Well actually, its not the fact that the industry has gone to shit but rather you for not eating the shitslop in the first place LuL!
>>722580790Come home, Pickle Pepsi man.
>>722592368People shit on your brown and bloom cover based shooters relentlessly when they came out, lol. This is actually an outstanding post to show how one man's trash is another's treasure.
>>722598119Its the same thing when talking with deltatroonies who admit to only ever played shit by toby fox.
>>722592860>muh japslop and racing games got DOMINATED by good old americana and this makes me sad
>>722598576Deltarune is good, cope faggot.
>>722598067Blame Wii permanently allowing casuals, PS3/ 360 permanently allowing normies, specfags, and eventually immersiontards, and the bloated retarded sales for a handful of gen 7 games that convinced soulless corpos to reverse engineer the entire industry
>>722598348Anon, just because she still commands a considerable chunk of all your waking thoughts doesn't mean she has actual power. You're doing it yourself.
>>722576975Cod clones are not fun games.Battlefield is only fun for fucking around with vehicles/c4.The fun parts of battlefield are inherently more arcadey than the boring parts.Beyond Citadel is funUltrakill is funergo, the less the game is about camping corners and the more bling bang wahoo, the more funner it becomes.
>>722597764No, because you still associate those old games with your younger years. They remind you of the things that you also liked. For example, I played shitloads of flash games as a kid and have a lot of nostalgia for them. Today if I go through the old roster on something like Newgrounds today, even games that I didn't play back then are similar enough to ones I enjoyed, or I'm already emotionally primed to have fun, that I have a great time even with utter garbage. This isn't rational. Those old flash games are not good or better than modern games by any means. They're just something that I have an emotional link to.
>>722577216There is a lot more slop to sift through so finding the good games is getting harder. You also get jaded with time so the bad games feel worse and you judge the good games more harshly if they aren't exactly to your taste.>>722578417>like Elden Ring, BG3, E33Agreed, the RPG genre is in a better state than it have ever been.
>>722577216Dont they watch other people play games for them now?
>>722577627They'll sooner blame some brown person on the street than admit that the system is flawed and broken.
>>722577479>The problem is you. You got bored. Fix it yourselfOkay. How?
>anons 4 christLMAO
>>722577216>I would genuinely like to know if games are getting worse or if we're just getting oldPlay old games and see if they're more fun. Most of the time, they are.
I've been having a good time with Advance Wars romhacks.
>>722576975Dudes who grew up thinking gaming was the ultimate hobby realized they've basically played every game. It doesn't matter how many times you gussy it up or change the art style or add cute girls. Walking down corridors and shooting people, jumping from one platform to another, managing workers in a town- once you play enough they completely lose that spark they once had, outside of rare usually very brief instances. Everything having the same control scheme is unironically a detriment. Then you couple this with the fact there is literally nothing substantive to be gained from gaining other than: Dopamine and a weird sense of social superiority when you're better than other people despite society at large thinking that's fairly pathetic. If gaming isn't supplemented by other hobbies that actually provide you with more than dopamine hits, you'll become miserable and nothing will be fun anymore. You simply don't have the virgin chemical reward system you did as a kid, so clicking left click to make someone fall over for the 1543453'd time just doesn't have the same appeal and it literally never will without either a huge break from gaming (like, decades) or by having another, more fulfilling hobby alongside it.
>>722599775>Walking down corridors and shooting people, jumping from one platform to another, managing workers in a town- once you play enough they completely lose that spark they once had, outside of rare usually very brief instancesHoly based
>>722577516You had the literal same fucking thing in the 2000s. There was a whole clique of girls at my school that loved "the 80s" and dressed in 80s fashion and thought 80s music was the best. This will happen to the current gen too. You'll have people nostalgic for a time they didn't experience going on about how Last of Us is some classic masterpiece work of fiction that nothing in the 2050s can compare to. That is, unless we reach the next "tier" of gaming by then.When we leave controllers and MnK behind and can beam games into our heads or some shit, there will be almost no one outside of old people desperately clinging to the past that goes back to play Controller and screen based video games. Just like basically no one is chomping at the bit to go play pong.
>>722598462It's more the tone than the visuals that i'm missing in todays games. My ideal game is tonally serious, grounded setting and gameplay, military/scifi with shooter combat, optional stealth with takedowns, third person, character creator, the chicks are hot and the dudes are grizzled veterans and the dialogue is written by a middle aged dude who grew up with Friedkin and Tarantino movies and reading Garth Ennis comics, listening to metal and really likes big tits. Me.
>>722597415Half of the American population has no inner voice and are incapable of conducting an inner monologue. Which checks out based on this thread
>>722598938>t. roastie
People said metal music was done and over and then Gojira and Tool released new albums. That's kinda how I feel about gaming too. People were crying about gaming being so hecking boring and then Armored Core 6 came out like a modern blast from the past. Helldivers 2 and Darktide keep pulling me back in because the gameplay is so good. Beyond Citadel is hilariously unapologetic. I got over 200 hours in Mechabellum in just a few months. And Battlefield 6 is coming out in a few days. Gaming isn't bad, it's just mainstream. It means you might have to look a bit harder to find the games you enjoy. You can't expect games to be served on a silver platter like they were in 2004. Also there's nothing wrong with taking a break.
Stop with your doomer bullshit.
>>7225769752012 was already boring af if you played vidya in 2000
>>722586610Mystia's Izakaya
>>722599496https://dhspriory.org/kenny/PhilTexts/Camus/Myth%20of%20Sisyphus-.pdf
>>722599775lol
>>7225769752011-12 was exactly when it started really going downhill.
>>722598219Anon, you are just a cultist, retreating from the world into a 5000 year old jewish MMO, to avoid having to fight for real life and real victory.
>>722600381modding skyrim in 2012 was fun actually
>>722577216I can still enjoy games, but I do have less patience for tedious parts.
>>722577216>take the indiepill>emulate vidya greats of yesteryear >if you have the patience learn how to mod to make the games that you already enjoy even better>sail the seven seas because you can't steal games that you never really owned in the first placeI haven't paid for a single AAAsloppa or any piece of shit that is charging $100 for their stuff. By contrast I've been playing a handful of games that cost a fraction of that while getting literal hundreds of hours worth of gameplay from them. Companies and special interest groups seem to think that we need them to persist when there are far more options now that you can easily sidestep them. You have anywhere between 25 - 50 years worth of vidya to pour over if you don't mind aged gameplay, designs, hardware considerations and sniffing around to find them. Of course you will have exceptions like GTA6 but given current market trends if you don't have a PS5 collecting dust somewhere already you won't be playing that one for a long while yet.
>>722576975Because it's just the same games as a decade ago but worse.
>>722600535>to avoid having to fight for real life and real victory.You know it's gotten bad when you gotta start recruiting on a Cambodian pictograph discussion board just to pad out the numbers.
there's enough games to last a lifetime if you're willing to do some diggingemulate old consoles and systemslook into games that were never released in english
>>722598693>Deltarune is good, cope faggot.Yeah if it's your first and only interaction with the hobby as well as being underage, yeah that would make sense Mr. Tranny
>retards have shit diet, sleep, and education>does nothing but game>wtf i'm depressed and don't like things anymoregee how could this have happened lmao
>>722576975but they made games that looks like the one of the right back in 2012 too, in fact they were more prevalent
>>722577517wojak attracts clicks because it's an exaggerated characture that even a toddler would understand just by taking a glance
>>722597269>2009~2014 were incredibly bad yearsDid you just pick a random set of years? Is your post AI generated? A whole bunch of bangers released in those 5 years. You must be trolling.
2 weeks ago
>>722578487baseball cards, comics, dad rock.
>>722576975live service games
>>722600318isn't she supposed to be telling me to kill myself?am I getting mandela'd?
>>722600796Keep calling things you dislike tranny slop, I'm sure that'll make your opinion more believable,
>>722598693
>>722577216It's both. Though it's not just video games, literally everything is getting worse. The constant chasing of bigger and bigger short term profits by the MBA retards means cutting more and more corners wherever possible, until you're left with the minimum viable product again.
it went wrong when you hit your tenth year in a row of doing nothing but playing videogames and now you're bored of the hobby.
>>722601327It was an edit, of course.
>>722601374You probably play gacha slop, shush.
>>722592231Perfect image. Every single time Sony releases any trash game you got the shills "guys I'm having a blast just buy it already!"
>>722576975>>722577216It's not about getting old or games getting worse. You're simply miserable human beings who likely find little enjoyment in anything, let alone games.
>>722577216The development process has become too standardized. Most devs are replaceable because everything runs on the same few engines. Game design has been boiled down to a science. It's the same few mechanics that just get recycled over and over (perk based progression, crafting systems, parry and rolling). There's just no passion from any of the big companies anymore. Occasionally, you'll have a big hit that will break through and then all of the slop farms will copy (look at how elden ring changed things) what they can. On the contrary I think indie games and smaller studios are the only real thing worth looking at now. AAA gaming is dead as can be.
>>722601365Maybe stop seething and play more video games? I'm sorry you're asshurt that other people go out and play more than one Video Game instead of just only playing tumblrite homestuck garbage by a literal limp wristed faggot who releases every 7 years.
>>722600761where did you get recruited for your cult?
>>722601701>deltatroon calling anything sloplmao
>>722586610Little Witch in the Woods.>>722600404Based.
>>722601953The only one who is pressed over people playing and enjoying games is you though.>>722602030I take it as yes, we have nothing to discuss then.
>>722600937>anyone who criticizes modern culture must be depressedget brainwashed retard
>>722577216Zoomers dont enjoy it much either. People just spend their money anyway and then get disappointed every single time. Not all can admit what they paid for is dogshit, but it shows in the media even young people are drawn to which is old stuff.>>722577424No they are actually buying retro stuff cuz modern games suck. Its why stores carry Vinyls and arcades are making a comeback as well. Modern entertainment as a whole is just terrible no matter if movies, books, tv series, games or music.
>>722577247Based
>>722602302>whining that you can't enjoy shit because of your own retarded lifestyle >urm it's valid criticism!hmmmm, lol. lmao even.
>>722602418Kid definitely got his ass beaten
>>722599496just like with dating you lower ur standards all the way to 0 and then you will be happy for sure and wont have a single problem enjoying everything.
>>722602564>anyone who criticizes modern culture must be living a retarded lifestyleget brainwashed, retard
>>722598070we had game rentals
>>722594951>Has any game franchise changed over the last 13 years?Zelda/Mario, ironically, changed the most
>>722602258>The only one who is pressed over people playing and enjoying games is you though.Well more like fags who don't even engage with anything else in the hobby because they are underage xitter shipfags and shit up boards with their retarded faggotry with their one game they watched their favorite streamer play. Just admit you are a one-trick pony casual and I'll concede
>>722602685>so mentally handicapped by his lifestyle he is on repeatsad!
>>722576975when mainstream gamers lost during Gamergate
>>722577216We are no longer children/teenagers.
>>722602418>camera INSIDE of houseretards do this and wonder why their kids never leave their room
>>722604676Not everyone is a schizoid that experiences extreme anxiety whenever anybody so much as looks at them
>>722601874I still enjoy shitposting.
>>722603674>Gamergate>mainstream
>>722576975gaming turned from a hobby that people made fun of to something popular
>>722578409/thread (Verification not required.)
>>722577216Nah faggot, I'm in my 30s and still love playing vidya, most modern big budget releases are dogshit and that isn't subjective. Older games carry this industry hard.
I've never encountered this problem. Games are still fun for me.
Normalfags ruin everything and I do mean everything. A singular granule of sand they could find a way to fuck it up.
>>722605581>GOTYaccording to who? Also why do a bunch of years have multiple games?
>>722597764How many games have you actually played and looked at? Shitty games have existed since videogames were invented.
>play new genres>play indies with high review scores>play classic retro titles>DO NOT touch live-service, gacha, competitive multiplayer, freemium or FOMO-event shit with a 10 foot pole - no matter how tempting it looksDo all 3 of these (especially the last one) and gaming will feel exciting again. IMO the last point is the underlying cause for so much gaming fatigue with today's consumers, because those business models turn a fun hobby into a part-time job.
>>722577216AAA gaming is worse since everything takes longer to make, and that time and money doesn't make games proportionally better. GaaS is also a giant talent-sink, where over the course of 8 years Bungie released 5 Halo games, compare that to 10+ years of Destiny.On the whole gaming is still great; I'm not a hater.
>>722605684Me
>>722577216>Do late zoomers and gen alpha really enjoy modern gamesNo, I was born in 2007 (I'm 18, unc) and despite having a 5070 ti, 9800x3D GPU, the most modern game I'll play is Battlefield 1 and BO3 zombies. I've replayed the WaW campaign about 6 times, and I've replayed Dark Souls and Bloodborne a few times. I also played games like Silent Hill 1 and 2 and some other games that got remade (I can't remember right now) and see no reason to buy the remakes. I'm not sure who's the target demographic for them, probably those with no attention span
>>722587947>social media has flattened culture to be homogenized and how it may have flattened the zoomer generation. There will be nothing new within a society's culture under the mass influence of social mediaSo like this meme but on the internet?
>>722576975Past: > game company owned by few men> owners own the company because they like what the company produces> direction is clear, not bogged by bureaucracy > profit is great but it's never the end goal, the goal is gamesNow:> game company owned by too many people> owners own the company because they like the money the company can produce> everyone is working on something different, layers upon layers of bureaucracy> games are shit but it's never the end goal, the goal is moneyThis has happened in every single industry and is why things suck. The people who run these industries today, and the shareholders they answer to do not have any knowledge of what they "create". They only see it the companies they take as a money factory.I cannot even fathom being this soulless of a person.
>>722584790We are talking about new games you idiot
>>722580445The fuck? The DS FF4 was ported to steam?>check it>terrible looking port of the DS version>looks fucking worse than the DS version somehow
>>722603674>mainstream gamerswhat is a mainstream gamer to you? why do YOU consider yourself a 'mainstream' gamer? someone whos spent their entire life trying to be counter-culture.
>>722582313Early 30s and similar experience. Every time I go back and play an older game that I missed out on, all I can think is >Damn they really just can't make them like this anymore...
>>722577216The whole point of video games is overcoming challenges meanwhile the trend in video games has been making them easier and more cinematic. So yes, modern games are definitely less video games than old games.
There are still plenty of good modern games like Trails 1st Chapter Remake, FF Tactics Remake, and Star Ocean 2nd Story Remake. You guys are just jaded.
>>722607203>All of those are remakes of good gamesfrogposters, not even once
>>722607203true I can't wait until they remake the remake because I love remakes just keep remaking my game, smooth out those pixels, add strange aliasing over them, modernize the heckin racist and transphobic dialogue, give me special items in game for pre-ordering, make it run at a lower FPS, give it longer load times, ignore the artistic integrity of the game and just give random things shiny new textures I fucking love that man and make it $60+ for a game that I already bought 15+ years ago, that's even better, I LOVE REMAKES I LOVE REMASTERS I LOVE REALLY SHITTY PORTS OH MY GOD IM REMOOOOOOKING!
>>722607203This. Having a blast with Trails in the Sky.
>>722607203is this sarcasm or seriousm
>>722577517It sucks that these videos never bring up unique PC versions of all those licensed games. I grew up with that shit, but it feels like only I played them, other than Harry Potter games.
>>722576975Just play Helldivers 2 difficulty 10 with botsYou wont have time to think about being bored
>>722607203>only remakes on this listpretty good bait
>>722577840Post the full image, faggot
>>722586610Last game i geniunely enjoyed was Danganronpa, i played it just months ago, i never touched a visual novel in my life and i was suprised when the first case appeared, and it was really funAlso Burnout 2: Point of Impact is fun
>>722606440I kek'd so hard at this. Its very true and yes the internet is also being raided by indians
>>722595452Amen brother, don't forget the mission
>>722576975judeo-christianity subverted America
>>722599775Truth nuke, screenshotted and will repost in the future you gigachad.
>>722576975>youtube thumbnail/twitter screencap from obvious shill or eceleb worshipper>500 replies
>>722607039But indie games surging in popularity have made games harder than ever. This is just wrong and an excuse to play old casual games.
>>722608593The new janitor seems to have a thing for mass replying to himself and was just caught doing it while going on a schizophrenic /pol/ rant. Hopefully he's in the process of being removed currently.
>>722595452Why do you christcucks always talk the same, holy fuck, this doesn't convince anyone and has never convinced anyone, if anything it turns people away
>>722608721>tranny buzzword
>>722608795yea bud, apologies for not having tranny lingo memorized like you do
>>722609065>budlol
>>722608697Do you have a screencap or archive of this?
>>722608697saw that in the other thread. then it was 404'd
>>722577216The remake of Oblivion outsold the original. It's not just nostalgia, old games were actually better.
>>722594208Spooktober is going great this year
>>722577479Would be nice if these faggots fucked off back to /r9k/
>>72257697525 zoomer hereGamergate its the obvious answer, its when women entered into gaming studios and the target audiences changed demografics from young men to everything else and also identity politics and diversity yada yadaafter 2012 outside of black ops 2, stranger of paradise, nintendo exclusives and things like that i havent feelt pleasantly surprised in a while
>>722579161this
>>722609591Oblivion is the example you use for this?
>>722576975Everything went wrong with gaming when I was born.
>>722610194Why did you do it?
>>722577216If you only play stuff from big publishers, it's really badIndies and AA is where it's atAnd old games
>>722610325You people had had it good for too long.
>>722576975nooooo I got older and my tastes changed and I'm too stubborn to try anything different!!!!!!!
>>722576975Play better games lol
Stop playing shit games, retards.It's that easy.
It became an major industry and in came the investors and they want safe bets and returns so every AAA game is a cookie cutter pile of shit that has been market researched to death and designed by comitee for maximum accesibility and marketability. Safe, uncontroversial and guaranteed to sell million.Everything else is just noise and distractions. Its not the gooners, its not the weebs, it's not the trannies, it's a bunch of venture capitalists that just wants more money who found an industry of nerds who wanted to make games they wanted to play and replaced them with people who would make the games they wanted to sell.
>>72257721631 here, AAA Games really started to tank at some point in the early 2010s. I think it's because almost every major game company started becoming too corporate around then and it was really starting to show. When the ambitious dev runs the company it will take high risks and do wild shit, then later the business men take over and they are trained to go for low risk, and making whatever the current fad slop is. It's actually a huge problem that contributes to the downfall of most tech companies in general.It has been a lot better lately though, a lot of newer devs that haven't succumb to this yet have been popping up and getting AAA funding like Shift Up, Larian, and Sandfall Interactive. The fresh wave of new AAA has been nice and I've been enjoying games more in general over the last 2 years than I did from like 2014-2023.
>>722577479>What do you mean you don't like the fact we replaced the entire restaurant menu with different types of animal shit?>Maybe you're just not hungry
>>722606453>>722610807these two niggas only right answers itt
>>722576975you are witnessing the same problem every other industry is suffering from. Jews demand more profits for doing nothing so cuckhold managers outsource everything toanother country for lower cost. thats fine if you do it once or twice but if you do it for everything all the time what ends up happening is nobody is able to accumulate practical skills or knowledge. They arent allowed to develop their own style or express their own creative vision. So you just end up with an industry that constantly hits itself in thedick. Any time someone starts getting good at making someone, like videogames, they lose their job and get undercut by some sea monkey niggers that the jews has decided will probably do just as good of a job as you but for cheaper.This is why indy games are so much better now. Indy is composed of people who actually want to make games, and they dont fire themselves and then outsource to a third party when they go to make their next game. Meanwhile, triple a slop is ran by DEI hire affirmative action nepobabies who chatgpt their way to victory for the script/translation, hire philopinoes to do the art, and then pay their friends to motion capture all the animations and ingame sound effects. The result is politically correct, soulless slop nobody wants to consume because even if they do support [current thing], theyve already played that game 20 times already because its the same dogshit everyone else is making.>>722577216>Can you objectively measure enjoyment?Sure. Is the industry growing? No. It's not. Zoomers find their one game and play it forever like some kind of boomer mmorpg. Except its not a mmo. Its fortnight, or minecraft, or roblox.
>>722576975Hasn't happened yet. In my opinion gaming has gotten better over the years.
>>722586398TRY TO REACH INSIDE OF ME, TRY TO DRAIN MY ENERGYLET ME SHOW YOU JUST WHAT I'M MADE OFSIMPLE CURIOSITY TRIES TO TAKE A BITE OF MELET ME SHOW YOU JUST WHAT I'M MADE OF
>>722610836>I think it's because almost every major game company started becoming too corporate around then and it was really starting to showYeah. Right now it looks like we're somewhere between stages 5 and 6.
>>722609382>>722600028 is the thread if you want to look it up on the archives
>>722577216Worse. Silksong is literally the only good game this year, while I could get recommended some random fuck game from the SNES, Gamecube or PS2 and there's a high chance of it being at least a 7/10. AAA is shit, most indies are shit ROGs or Roguelights, it's so bad.
>>722606453>I cannot even fathom being this soulless of a person.I think of them as cancer cells in the greater organism of the economy/society.
>>722610023It's always people who play garbage that do the new bad thing
“Many companies forget what it means to make great products. After initial success, sales and marketing people take over and the product people eventually make their way out.”— Steve Jorts
>>722611676Cruelty Squad looks better
>>722576975It was progressive, but 2019-2020 was the end there were still a few games but it's been 5 years of fucking nothing outside of a couple of indies. 2011 was around the beginning of the end, but things were still okay then despite how back then everyone already wanted to go back to pre 9/11
>Gaming feels boring nowWhy are AAA players like this?
>>722612142Anon, they've been playing Roblox, Fortnite and GTA V for over a decade.
>>722611930>2011 was around the beginning of the end, but things were still okay then despite how back then everyone already wanted to go back to pre 9/11If only we knew how much worse things could get.I still remember when most people believed that online surveillance was a "conspiracy theory".
>>722577216>Do late zoomers and gen alpha really enjoy modern games?Probably, but gaming is more a social thing than it is with the older people. As in they never existed/grew-up/socialized in a world before social media, before socials went to complete shit, not much elsewhere to socialize, so they play co-op/online games with friends or randos. Many don't have lots of fun $$$ so they either play F2P slop or watch streamers play games.Also kids/teens nowadays can't be seen playing games that the crowds see as icky. Reminds me of kids with music, they only like music that sounds cool and treat it like a fashion accessory, rather than an art/entertainment medium.Too concerned about outward appearances.
>>722611580they truly are cancer
>>722577517Funny how every Youtuber has fancy mics directly in his mouths but his voices are hidden by loud music and laugh tracks every 10 seconds. They don't even have the minimal effort of equalising the volume
>>722610023>but I didn't like that one!Doesn't matter, faggot. The comparison is to modern games, not to whatever your favorite game was.
>>722577216Gaming has gotten better. But I don’t game much anymore, I’m too busy being a worse Man.
>>722577259Kek
>>722577216I guess it depends on the genre, I like RPGs of all kinds, action games, metroidvanias and strategies. I still have more games to play than time for them(I work full time tho, without any other commitments) I would say that AAA games got worse, but overall you have more option that before, far more AA and indie games so there are still good games.If I would be to point games that were released recently(let's say up to 1,5 year) and I played and enjoyed it would be:SilksongRaidou remasterEnder MagnoliaKunitsugamiCrypt CustodianDrova: the Fosaken KinMetaphorRomancing Saga 2 RemakeNine SoulsTactical Breach WizardsNotice that those are only recent games(I also play less recent games that I finally got to play like ghost of tsushima), and maybe one can be considered AAA which is MetaphorPeople here will bitch and moan because most of them don't even play games.The only sad thing that influence too many games is marvel writing and too much quips, especially in serious games
>>722576975It's mainly AAA games and many low effort indies constantly trend chasing that are the problem. The problem is that storefronts are constantly drowned in a million indies trying to ride the coat tails of something far better and AAA slop is always what gets the most coverage. The ration of good games to bad games is the same, it's just there's so much more shit to dig through before you find something worth playing. Also you're a jaded adult with the looming threat of economical ruin on the horizon.
>>722576975>zoomer thumbnail welcome to the club
If you buy the new BF or CoD you should become a better man.
