>get gud? Nah dude, just stop progressing and go grind new gear for the next 2 hours like its a Diablo cloneIs this really supposed to be better than Dark Souls?
skill issue
>>722578385I pre-ordered Nioh 3 Digital Deluxe Edition on Steam. I love how Nioh 3 is massively reducing the RPG elements and massively increasing the ACTION elements of the Nioh formula. Team Ninja is taking a huge shit in the mouth of all the Nioh 2 subhuman fanboys who claimed for years that "Nioh 2 perfected the Nioh formula". Imagine getting refuted and BTFO'd by the developers themselves, it is so humiliating for them.>Leveling up attributes reduced and the weapon scalings simplified>The amount of returning Nioh 2 dedicated Samurai weapons with weapon stances system reduced to only 7 from 11.>All the new dedicated Ninja Style weapons are Ninja Gaiden inspired and focus heavily on action and aerial movement.>Switching between Samurai Style and Ninja Style is completely optional>Ninja Style can dispel Yokai Realm>Team Ninja confirmed you can beat the entire game as a Ninja Style purist>Onmyo magic completely gutted and simplified>Living Weapons are back and stronger than everI can't wait to enjoy Nioh 3, the game that made Nioh 2 irrelevant and avenged Nioh 1 bros. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Team Ninja.
you can beat new game naked with a level 1 sword.
>>722578385I never had to farm on these games. Just equip the biggest numbers. The set bonuses at the lower difficulties are so small that they don't make a difference. And when you increase difficulties the numbers go up so much that all you have from the previous one is obsolete as soon as you get your first drop.
>>722578385You don't need to worry about gear minmaxing or stats even until NG+better gear won't carry you through the game anyway
>>722578561>I love how Nioh 3 is massively reducing the RPG elementsThis didn't happen thoughever. They increased both the RPG and action elements.
>>722580368You didn't play the demo, lol, moron subhuman.
>>722578385Genuine skill issue
>>722580368Don't bother engaging with him. He's a 35 year old genuine schizo who shits up nioh and ninja gaiden threads and just regurgitates garbage pastas with 0 basis in reality.
>>722581594Then how do i get gud?Please help, i dont want to drop the game
>>722581785Easy answer is to equip the hammer yokai thing (ippon) and use that after every combo when low on stamina. Be aware that you won't have legit beaten the game if you abuse that.
>>722582268Nioh 1 in OP.In both Nioh games, you can abuse the magic system. It's pretty OP.
>requested someone to stream some nioh 2 a few threads ago>some anon actually did it
>>722581679>I have an IA of 105 and can't comprehend the comments and perspective of a person with an IQ of 141, therefore he must be schizoCRISPR-Cas will prevent subhumans like you, the future can't come soon enough.
>>722583164Take your meds
>>722582935Who would play nioh 1 when 2 exists!!
>>722583660Me after rinsing nioh 2 for 500 hours and wanting more
>>722583660Nioh 1 is better than Nioh 2.
>>722583759Wrong but that's okay.
>>722583759wrong and its not ok
>>722583998>>722583892Both right>>722583759Wrong
>>722578385>stop progressing and go grind new gearPlease tell me you didn't actually try to do this OP, you poor little retard ...
>>722584141This makes so little sense since loot level is tied to level of the mission you're on.
>>722581785Sloth Talisman
>>722583892>>722583998>>722584031Nioh 1 is raw and deliberate, Nioh 2 is arcadey and focuses too much on yokais.Nioh 1 is the better game, get over it.
>>722584680>Nioh 1 is rawYou're right, it should have been left to cook more. Could have been so much better, good thing we got 2 as a result.
>>722578385I fucking hate the diablo loot system in this game and is the reason I dropped it and Nioh 2.
Fuck these guys for making it 80 bucks. Now I gotta pirate it until it drops below 60. My principles have not changed. Even for peak kino.
>>722585221>$100 for deluxe with access to future dlcs Gaming crash can't come soon enough
>>722578385I have no idea how the stats work in this game.
>Schizo reusing his shitty copypasta again>Somehow thinks he can convinced people nioh 2 is shit even though its as true of a sequel as you can get without altering the foundationIt doesn't even make sense. If Nioh 2 was so different to Nioh 1 like Dawn of War 2 was a completely different game to Dawn of War 1 that would be one thing, but Nioh 2 is literally just Nioh 1 but more refined.
>>722581785always be in low stance when you're not actively attacking since your dodges are fast and can be spammed infinitely. whenever you reach the end of a combo, flux to another stance to continue attacking, or flux back to low stance and start spamming dodgeflux is something you unlock early in the samurai tree that lets you recover ki when you switch stances right after ki pulse (you can switch stances twice after ki pulsing to activate flux twice, but this isnt strictly necessary) use ki pulse to cancel the endlag on your animations and keep the pressure on enemies. example: when doing a midstance light chain with sword and finishing with kick, flux to low stance and do the flowing shadow active skill, then flux to high stance and do a heavy attack.>>722582967watching that anon get pounded by a single ninja yoki for nearly an hour was a uniquely entertaining experience
>>722584992Being raw is better than being cooked, but you are too brainwashed to realize that truth.
>>722585510>but Nioh 2 is literally just Nioh 1 but more refined.Nope. It is not.
>>722578385there is never a point in ng where your gear is a problem
>>722585221>>722585338Get a job you worthless faggots.
>>722578385No
if nioh 1 had all the new moves 2 added and character creation, I think i would prefer it over 2it's just hard to go back to 1kat without light in darkness and severing spin. also no fists.
Nioh 2 is one of my favorite games and I like it way more than Nioh 1 but if you say that Nioh 2 is just Nioh 1 but better you're an actual retard cause the games do play a lot differently and have different design philosophies when it comes to gameplay and level design
>>722578385You absolutely do not need to grind.You can always just duel a few revenants and reap the fruit of the grinding from autists that grinded gear.
>>722586076I cheese
>>722586139Like what? Nioh 2 is very much Nioh 1 but with more.
>>722586009What flavor of shoe polish do you like better? Brown or black?
>>722586009I have a job, this isn't the point of the conversation.
>>722578385>like its a Diablo cloneIt's literally a Diablo clone.Sadly, as it's the biggest flaw of an otherwise good game.>Is this really supposed to be better than Dark Souls?For most gamers yes, because they are addicts to glorified gambling.Anyway, best way to play Nioh 2 (because you MUST NOT play 1 at all as it's a complete waste of time for it's obsolete) is to not do it and wait for 3 to got all DLCs, patches, and hopefully completed mods.But if you can't wait or (you) read this at a future date and are playing the complete version of 3, you get a 100% completed save with either great endgame equipment, or make it through cheat engine, and play ONLY the main quests and the exclusive bosss fights of optional quests (like the dojo challenges) ALWAYS in the highest difficulty.This way you can play it like a good Hack 'n Slah instead of a shitty ARPG.You are welcome.
>>722586139>have different design philosophies when it comes to gameplay and level designSuch as?
>>722586783While I think skipping Nioh 1 makes sense if you want to play Nioh 2, I don't think the same is true with Nioh 3 since they actually have changed the gameplay siginificantly for weapon types like Kasurigami. Not to mention the level design is so different in Nioh 3 compared to 1/2, which is why I am baffled at how this schizo is pretending Nioh 3 is a return to Nioh 1 when it is so radically different.
>>722586550Soul cores warp the combat into something completely different, there is so much free damage in 2 its insane
>>722586959>schizo is pretending Nioh 3 is a return to Nioh 1 when it is so radically differentHe thinks that samurai style going from 11 weapons to 7 means more of an action approach and less rpg building potential (let's just ignore the other 7 distinct weapons for ninja style and additional weapons that will come in dlcs)
>>722581785Equip new gear after every main mission, focus on what has the biggest number for attack and defence if you can't be bothered examining the other attributes.You should literally always be Ki pulsing, it is not an optional mechanic.
>>722586551>shoe polishYikes. I only wear comfy shoes.
>>722586550It is but I'm not a fan of people just brushing 1 under the rug when it does so much differently than 2 and is very much worth playing.Level design and enemy encounters are the big one, Nioh 1 is a lot more claustrophobic focusing more on the dungeon diving aspect rather than straight action compared to 2. Nioh 2 has much more open levels and I'd say the enemy encounters are more "fair", if you're gonna fight a large yokai they're usually flanked by some smaller ones like Gakis instead of something like Nioh 1 which is totally happy to just drop 3 Tengu on you at once in a small space and tell you to fight them. Seriously just go walk around a Nioh 2 map compared to Nioh 1 and you'll see just how many tight ledges you're forced to fight on in 1 compared to 2. Nioh 1 feels like a dangerous dungeon crawler while 2 leans more into being a fun, fast paced action game.
>>722587008That's quite a stretch, the addition of soul cores doesn't change the core gameplay of the free flow combat with ki pulsing into different combos unless you are doing some cheesy ninjutsu build that abuses anima abilities.
>>722586959If you played the demo, you would know. Nioh 2 is eternally BTFO'd.
>>722587321
>>722586783When you see wordswordswords accompanied by a picture of an anime girl you know you're about to read the dumbest shit you've ever seen.
>grind new gearlmao whatjust use whatever trash dropped in the last level, the only stats that matter are the armor values and the damage values, you would only ever care about the bonuses in NG++ or some shitI wish people who made threads actually played the game they make threads about
>>722587139It's not a matter of bothering you just shouldn't at all, affixes in nioh are total garbage and it's kinda embarrassing they still haven't put any effort into them.
>>722578561Schizo, what in the fuck are you talking about? I get that you hate Nioh, but stop this word babble.
>>722587112Ninja Style killed Samurai Style. Get over it.
>>722587590I love Nioh 1, I like Nioh 2, both are amazing games. Nioh 2 subhuman fanboys are delusional and got humiliated by Team Ninja. Nioh 3 is much better than Nioh, if you played the demo, you would know.Nioh 1 > Nioh 3 > Nioh 2.
>>722587712>Nioh 3 is much better than Niohthan Nioh 2*
>>722587112I wonder what they will add as new weaponsWe already got a monster hunter fantasy weapon in the form of the switchglaive, splitstaff was also kind of a memeSo whats next?Ball and chain for a "heavy" kusarigama?dual pistols?Bladed boots for a pure kicking moveset?
>>722587613(If you ignore it being in the game)Dumb nigger
Reminder always boycott action games that have shitty RPG mechanics. RPG are for try hard shitters who desperately want to win at video games but have cognitive learning issues
>>722587861No new weapons bro, you get your ninja movesets
I only beat Stranger of Paradise because it was based and dropped Nioh1 close to the end because I thought it was kinda boring.Whats the endgame in Nioh games like? Does it shake up the formula a bit like SoP?
>>722578385>grinding in nioh
>>722587886Ninja Style outdamages Samurai Style.Ninja Style can dispel Yokai Realm.Ninja Style is faster.Ninja Style has superior Aerial moves.Ninja Style gets Ninja Gaiden moves.It is over for Nioh 2 subhuman fanboys.
>>722587861Maybe naginata. Dunno. We won't get then till at least end of 2026 so not like it matters too much
>>722587861There will be no new weapons, Nioh 3 is changing its approach to DLC.
>>722588078>more nonsensical retard babble as he argues with himself
>>722587914Nioh 3 is the least RPG oriented Nioh, it is massively focused on the action thanks to Ninja Style. All the RPG lovers praising Nioh 2 as the perfection of the Nioh formula, received a massive shit in their mouths by Team Ninja xD Those that have trouble swallowing it, I am helping them by pissing in their mouth so they can wash it down more easily.
>>722588165Source?
>>722588165source on this claim?
>>722588227You keep arguing with him, making you the biggest retard in the thread
>>722588227>I have an IQ of 105, I can't understand what the guy with an IQ of 142 is saying :( it must be nonsense.CRISPR-Cas will prevent subhumans like you, the future can't come soon enough.
>>722588317>t.
>>722588346>>722588384Nioh 3 will receive 2 DLC, not 3, like previous games. The entire structure is altered, thinking you are getting weapons is just wishful thinking at this stage.
>>722588509I love this picture, keep making fun poojeets, it is a win-win for me.
>>722588384>>722588346nothing new
>>722578385It's much better.
>>722588712>digital deluxe is some skins you immediately replace by next areaHoly dogshit
am I the only retard that likes the diablo loot system? Going all the way to DOTN in Nioh 2 would have felt weird if I had completely stopped caring about gear after the first difficulty, and I like constantly finding small upgrades/sidegrades for my build.That said the ethereal sets autism was too much for me and farming for weapon skills is ass.
>>722578385There is no need to grind gear until ng+++
>>722589115you probably can transmog any of your new weapons into those, but in any case starting the game with a "Satan Balls Krusher 6,000,000" looks off to me and I prefer the basic-looking gear. My favourite aesthetic unlock in 2 were the dojo kimono and wooden weapons
I've noticed people still dont really get that armor weight classes actually mean block effectivenessat end game your stam regen is pretty bonkers anyway that you can untap block and instantly refil your stam bar inbetween combo hits
>>722589972You don't need to farm for weapon skills. In fact, if you farm then you dude not belated the game sir
>>722590163So, can I beat the game using the same trashy weapons I get from the start while being average at Soulslike games?
>>722578385Nioh is the only Soulslike that's actually a ARPG. The rest are Action-Adventure games. It's a 3D diablo-like.
>>722589972I like diablo loot it's just nioh has bad loot, way too many useless affixes
>>722590240Yeah the wooden dojo stuff even had the best impact sounds when clashing
>>722590394>So, can I beat the game using the same trashy weapons I get from the start yes, I beat the game with the bokuto>while being average at Soulslike games?no, you still need to demonstrate that you have acquired sufficient skill to pass the games skill checks
>>722590348>You don't need to farm for weapon skillsthe hell you don't, I don't remember how many times I had to kill that bitch Mataza for Triple Threat but I'm pretty damn sure it was more than the times I would have fought him organically>>722590417>way too many useless affixesthat's true, I sometimes like to imagine that somebody out there has found at least some use for even the silliest affixes
>>722578385yep yep one of the worst slop games ever made
>>722590394>So, can I beat the game using the same trashy weapons I get from the startyou should change weapons but you just switch over every few missions to some random one of the same type with bigger numbers
>>722587590Just an average ninja gaiden fag
>>722588712That's just deluxe edition stuff, that doesn't rule out anything for the actual expansions.
>>722590772>>722591235Thanks. I just find it annoying to constantly check the stats for every new weapon drop for a potentially very slight damage increase.
>>722591445Season pass is vague, IIRC nioh2 specifically confirmed new weapons in the season pass
>>722591612yeah a lot of people struggled with the same issue, but your inventory is rather and as you said you get a lot of small increments so the most hassle-free way to go about it is this:>not think about gear at all for at least 1 main mission + handful of side missions at a time, then you give a cursory look at what you have (highest damage weapon, highest defense gear in desired weight range, accessories are weirder so prioritize useful affixes like say kodama detection)>equip/lock everything you might want (and unlock old gear if it has become too weak)>disassemble/sell/offer to kodamas at shrine all the rest (I recommend a lot of the latter at the start to bulk up on divine rice, which you'll use to autobuy heals and ammo)aaand that's it basically, build autism can yield some powerful stuff even early on but even as a mediocre player you can 100% get through NG with the method above, if anything worrying about gear too much is a waste of time since the equipment turnover is so high and leveling gear at the blacksmith is prohibitively expensive
>>722578385this game is genuinely a lot easier than the souls games after the first couple levels. I just finished playing through it for the first time yesterday and going into the final level my character was around level 95~ while the recommended level is apparently 135. I still felt pretty OP beat all of the final bosses on my first try. Its not even like i'm skilled, its just the game becomes really easy when you figure out that just dashing behind an enemy after you get a hit or two in will almost always dodge their attack and set you up for another couple of hits.
>>722578385>>get gud? Nah dude, just stop progressing and go grind new gear for the next 2 hours like its a Diablo cloneSkill issue if you did that.
>>722592648but your inventory is rather large*btw if I want to for example disassemble some of the gear and not just sell it all I simply go section by section (helmets/chest pieces/ pants etc.) to divide it up quickly>>722592729it's a punishing game but it's not hard if you understand its mechanics, not until the very highest difficulties at least. Compared to souls games you have a lot more strong tools and abilities at your disposal. You are not a humble warrior killing ancient beasts and heros against all odds, you are a busted glass cannon demolishing hordes of enemies
Is smokebomb worthless?Seems like the animation is too long for the effect, and its expensive point wise, especially compared to blinding egg
>>722593225i mean pretty much all i did was mid stance spam light attack so i would hardly call myself a busted glass cannon but it was still easier than a souls game because after you get a feel for how bosses are designed their attack patterns are just super predictable and easy to dodge, and most bosses only have like 3 or 4 different attacks to learn. and the lack of enemy variety means you just know the attack patterns of almost all the basic enemies less than half way through the game anyway. i died a ton in the first 2 chapters but beyond that the only thing that really caused me any difficulty was the ice woman. souls games on the other hand are typically a bit harder towards the end (like a game is meant to be).
>>722581785dodge attacks and hit enemies? Idk it's kinda simple broIf you want to dodge stay in low stance, when you want to block stay in mid stance, when you want to attack use whatever you find to be the best DPS wise and flux into a low stance to dodge out of the wayGear doesn't matter as long as you have the latest slop equipped, and if you feel you eat too much damage per hit, yeah, that's how it's supposed to be
>>722578385the game's difficulty is entirely tied to "did you get some armor/weapons from current level youre doing at current difficulty yet"if so, you can stunlock bosses which is how you beat all of themyes it is a shit gameplay loop, i know, fuck diablotards
>>722578561Nigga did Nioh 3 come out? Why are fags giving definitive answers on a game that hasn't released yet unless there gameplay footage.
>>722586009>Get a job and continue supporting the industry's cancerous price increases LUL
>>722593887>ice womanAre you talking about the first game? I've barely played that one so not sure if 1 and 2 are different in this regard. As for how difficulty should scale while progressing through a game I'm not sure, most of the times I find the initial part the hardest because I'm still getting a hang of things and this definitely includes DS 1 and 2 (and even in Sekiro I died to my first boss, Lady Butterfly, way more than to any other enemy in the game)
