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>hooray! now we can see IF a building can be accessed
>...in the new Pokemon game that consists ONLY of buildings
The absolute state of Pokemon in 2025
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>>722582580
trying too hard
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You expect pokemon to be the first real game with complete interiors?
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>>722582580
What is this take even.

Of course you cant go in every building
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>>722582580
imagine the ammounts of mass youth suicides in 1996-2010 if you told them Pokémon games will eventually be shovelware.
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>>722582580
nah
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Pokémon died in the ds.
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>>722582580
There is no interior. All buildings now just open ui menu to shop. They learned from SV that Switch can't handle big games so they have to cut a lot of content for smoother gameplay. ZA is only ONE city throughout the whole game. That's it. Oh yeah it costs $70 base game and also day 1 DLC $40 for mega raichus and more with season pass. Thanks for playing Pokémon, goy.
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Meester Mericku...
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>>722582934
I cannot believe some of you are actually happy to accept buildings without interiors in 2025. You guys have to be shills, you just have to be
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>>722582580
Aren't you tired of fighting Nintendo® knowing that you are never going to win? Don't you want to rest? Miyamoto-Sama might still forgive you if you apologize now
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>>722582580
Dude who cares how garbage the game is, it's gonna sell eight digits regardless
Did SwSh and SV teach you nothing
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>>722582934
>of course you cant go in every building
it's crazy how far peoples standards have dropped, gaming can never recover when npcs like this guy exist
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>>722583435
E33 is filled with them and it was critically acclaimed
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>>722583435
>90% of my gaming experience since birth was minecraft
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Why do people want million copy pasted buildings that have nothing in them?
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>>722582931
Elder Scrolls. You see that building? You can enter it.
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>>722583435
I am a shill but only for Sonic Crossworlds where we shill the game everyday with our general thread
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>>722583614
All four of them.
Alright serious thought, not playing the shill character. I genuinely would be annoyed if there were more buildings go into in a pokemon game. I already feel compelled to talk to every npc incase they have some one of a kind special item and it feels like a chore in each new town. It's not like elder scrolls where you can hide in the bedroom and dig through their panty drawers. Talking to 10x more "mom in the kitchen"s sounds tedious
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>>722582934
yeah god forbid the game having actual content
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>>722583782
lmao sonic really mind broke you huh
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>>722583306
>They learned from SV that Switch can't handle big games
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>>722583306
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>>722584224
I'm not reading that whole ahh incel manifesto
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>>722584385
TL;DR Pokemon was only good up to Gold and Silver, started getting progressively worse over time and then took a rapid nosedive around Black and White.
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>>722582983
>what's shovelware
what now
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>>722583570
And all of the feasible ones were in a prologue that would last like a hour, tops, before being lost forever.
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>>722584637
oh literal-anon!
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>this makes tendies seethe and shit their diapers
LMAO
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>>722583306
>Switch can't handle big games
Zoomers are retarded.
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>>722582580
Don't worry about that, anon
Just make sure to have an active Nintendo Switch Online™ account so you can get the exclusive mega evolutions locked behind a online exclusive mode =D
>>722583435
Anon, you forget the number 1 rule of being a shameless consoomer:
It doesn't have to be good, it just has to be new
>>722582983
If I had known what I know now, I never would've bothered with gen 5 or 6, and would've told my cousin and brother to not get me gen 7 and 8 respectively for trading purposes
Also the mobile card game ended up being a huge disappointment too
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>>722583608
You mean like what GameFreak is currently doing?
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Wheres my fucking Unova remakes?
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>>722585491
You had Blueberry Academy, now zip it
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>>722584224
>whining about gen 5 dex
stopped reading there
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>>722584980
why would it be?
exceeding expectations on a digimon game is what, 1/100th the sales of pokemon?
I do hope for you digimon fans the game is actually good, you deserve a good videogame more than once every 2 decades
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>>722585835
nta, but I agree
If pokemon is irreversibly in the shithouse, the other "mon" fandoms should get a redemption
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>>722582934
But I want to.
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>Whole games takes place in 1 (one) city
>The city is completely inaccessable
Are poketards really eating this slop up?
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>>722585761
It is a shit dex to be fair
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>>722586025
still I mean, on average the quality of pokemon games is still higher than digimon games
now I wish this wasn't true because if pokemon had an actual competition it would force GF to actually get off their asses and make improvements, but sofar really nobody managed

Even Palworld isn't really a true competition, since it went all in on the more edgy and survival/crafting aspects rather than trying to compete properly
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>>722582934
you can enter like 90% of the buildings in older pokemon games.
Lumiose city isn't even especially large, you could easily give most of the buildings at least an interior first floor
>doesnt count, older pokemon games were all copy paste jobs
have you SEEN the new pokemon game?
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>>722582934
>of course only minimal effort should be put in, duh
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meester mericku...
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>>722586310
Conditioning is no joke, Anon
>>722586534
>on average the quality of pokemon games is still higher than digimon games
True, I guess, but not by much as time goes on
>Even Palworld
I think they figured they were just different enough to avoid the NinHammer?
Either way, monster games are not what they used to be, and 90s was peak for all of them
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>>722586539
there are 34 buildings in R/B Saffron city, you can enter 8 of them

not really 90%

Celadon city it's 23 buildings, 9 of which can be entered
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>>722583435
Why should I care about buildings or their interiors in my pokemon taming fame
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>>722582580
Pokefaggots are not real kek, these games are so fucking shit
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ONE CITY
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>>722587075
Because this Pokemon farming game only has 1 (one) location; the city with no buildings you can enter.
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>>722583550
Retard, please show me an actual 3D game where you can go inside a large number of buildings.
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>>722587304
And? I want to catch pokemon and fight them, not take real estate tours
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>>722587430
Sun/Moon.
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>>722587075
>Why should I care about the game I purchased having no game
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>>722587430
Skyrim
Gamefreak has the money needed to make a Skyrim like game
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>>722587445
>And? I want to catch pokemon and fight them
Where will you catch them? You only have 1 location to explore.
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>>722583435
you have 3 options:
>many fake buildings
>many real buildings with barebones interiors that serve no purpose
>skyrim towns
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>>722582983
You dont understand the words you say esl
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I am so glad more and more people in every community are finally calling out Nintendo on its shit.
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>>722587564
Skyrim towns would be an upgrade over any pokemon game's towns
and for fucks sake it's a 15 year old game, you can expect someone to do "skyrim but better" by now
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>>722584980
quite the opposite mulatto, I like both series.
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>>722582983
Pokemon games are so bad that they inspired me to get into gamedev just so I could try to make my own !Pokemon games.
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God fucking dammit, snoys. Next thing you'll say is that 9/11 really happened.
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>>722587496
Random ass buildings aren't the game
>>722587545
In the fucking grass/fields//mountains/woods/water, aka where I caught them in every single other game before?
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>be the most profitable IP on the planet
>never once reinvest any of that into its flagship game series
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I don't trust modern Game Freak to design a city. The main city in sv is full of copy pasted restaurants that are just menus, there's a couple places where they use identical ones right next to each other, it's comical
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>>722587901
Preasu understandu, Gameu Freaku isu smarru indie studio withu smarru Japaneseu penisu, no can make good game rike Amelican with big Amelican penisu, so solly, so vely vely solly.
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pokemon is a small indie franchise. why do you people want so much from them. just be glad we get any games from them.
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>>722582931
With a tiny ass map like that? Yes.
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>Make pokemon but every building in enterable
>See guy sitting at table
>WOW I LOVE POKEMON!
>See random pokemon in corner
>KWEHKWEH

This is literally all you would get.
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>>722587849
>In the fucking grass/fields//mountains/woods/water
Not in this game.
Remember, the ENTIRE GAME takes place in 1 (one) location. A city.
You will explore nothing and be happy.
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>>722588057
Imagine if these retards made huge, high production games every 5 years or so like Rockstar instead of slinging out yearly slop. Pokemania would be rekindled for every new release.
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>>722587901
It's time rather than money. Even your favorite studio will collapse if they have gamefreak's dev cycle.
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
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>>722588293
not
>GUWARRF
ngmi
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You cant enter all the buildings in paris tou know
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>>722588293
I'd be more than satisfied, just make them occasionally have some cool items and cool pokémons to trade.
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>>722586976
>an old as fuck game from 1996 didn't let you go in all the buildings
>so neither should a AAA game in 2025
Fuck off with this shit, I'm so tired of NPCs like you ruining vidya
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>>722582580
what's the point of going inside a building when they're jus going to show you a menu IMMEDIATELY like they did in gen 9? there's nothing inside, no soul whatsoever. they didn't even bother modeling furniture or shit
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>>722588293
Yes, that's all I want. Maybe 1 in 5 someone gives you an item or a trade. It's the bare minimum for an RPG
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>>722588371
Bro... RDR2 was 2018....
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>>722582931
Don't worry anon, sooner or later it will be the only game has the feature because nintendo will patent it.
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>>722588293
uh, that sounds incredibly based?
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>>722588296
That's kinda lame but if the gameplay loop itself is fun, I won't really mind the lack of zones to explore.
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>>722588293
Nuh uh, we'd get
>Explanation of basic game mechanics midway into the game
>A joke that might have been funny in Japanese
>An item you already have
>"Isn't technology amazing!"
>"I sure am sweatin' boy!"
>"Today we are dancing for no reason"
>"Kookaroo!"
>An awful in-game trade
>Nothing
The possibilities are endless.
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>>722588947
It'll be like the previous games, but worse.
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>>722585395
if the digimon mobile card game is actually good we will truly be living in strange times.
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>>722588589
no I'm simply replying to the other anon saying you could enter 90% of buildings in the old games which simply wasn't true
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>>722584224
I like Black and White though.
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>>722584224
The spelling errors kill it
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>>722589482
>1 spelling error means all of the facts are suddenly untrue
80iq take
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>>722589227
Hey, I'd rather one of us eat well, than none of us
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>>722589632
That's not what he said tho
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>>722589632
>facts
seething ESL retard lmao
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>>722584637
The reason is that it got progressively shittier the less they focused on it being an adventure. That's why Legends Arceus feels like a breather in the middle of a sea of shit.
Besides it I haven't bothered with any Pokémon game since Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, and I'm surprised /vp/ didn't mention it as an inflection point where the reason they thought the games were shit were technical limitations and not crippling incompetence.
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>>722589472
why?
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>>722585081
No, gamefreak is retarded
You're retarded too for riding GF's dick
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>>722588371
Japanesu penisu too smarru fol that, so solly.
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>>722582893
but metadoom is epic
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>>722589632
Not what I said lmao
There was more than one spelling error btw.
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>>722593397
Looks good to me apart from 'bare' at the start.
Spelling errors are easily fixed though so we can continue to spam it infinitely lmao
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>>722595558
>we
damn thats pathetic
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>let's make whole cities with many buildings so they feel like actual cities
>>wahhh I want the buildings to have interiors
>ok then let's keep it to a few quality buildings
>>wtf wahhhh why are the towns so small?
>ok let's make big cities and fill the non-essential buildings with randomly generated shit because there is no actual way we could ever fill a whole real scale city with actual things
>>wtf wahhhh it's just throwaway content

Retards actually for real think you can have a realistic scale city full of actual content with every building being accessible when not even gigantic billion dollar budget AAAAA projects like GTA can do it
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>>722595634
Well I didn't make it, but I'm assuming the guy who made it still posts it as well, hence the 'we'.
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>>722587581
t. anglo cuck
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>>722596051
nice save bro
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I have zero interest in this game, but why are Snoytrannies seething at this when shit like GTAV, a game with literal infinite budget, doesn't let you enter very many buildings either.
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>>722595997
>because there is no actual way we could ever fill a whole real scale city with actual things
But they can though? This is the most successful media franchise in the world we're talking about.
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>>722582580
I think a non-insignificant portion of Pokemon players exclusively play Pokemon and have no idea how great games can really be.
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>>722595997
Why make the ENTIRE game set INSIDE a city if you don't want players to enter buildings?
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>>722582580
Couldn’t there have just been one big boutique icon on the map considering that all entrances most likely lead to the same shop?
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>>722582934
>Of course you can't go in every building

Yet we were able to do that since fucking Pokemon RED
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>>722583608
Why do you assume that’s what they want and not an actual explorable world and environment that’s not just a series of squares with shitty N64 brick texture on them
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
Jesus christ
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>>722597776
Its kind of the norm in openworld games outside of elder scroll tho?
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>>722582580
>cooked
Please kill yourself back to twitter.
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>>722587643
So you’re a retarded leftists using safe words like mullatto. KYS poketroon lol
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>>722585491
I don't want Gen 5 chibi demakes for today's mobile phone audiences.
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>>722597956
>So you’re a retarded leftists
nice try, esl
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>>722582580
Didn't scarlet and violet already have a diegetic way to show this by having buildings you can enter marked with an "arrow-patterned" door mat in front?
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>>722583550
>as if there was any game in history with full interiors that didnt have like 5 buildings total.
kys zoomer
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I liked Legends Arceus, but I dunno if that counts as a Gen 4 make or not.
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
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>>722583570
E33 isnt made by the biggest merch cows in the world?
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>>722582934
Aight double down time:
You cant go in 90% of the buildings of:
Any ubishit
Gta
Spiderman
Witcher
A ton of houses in cyberpunk
Or ANY FUCKING GAME
>Yea bu bu but in older pokemon games where there were like 50 buildings total you could enter them
Yeah no shit fucking idiot.

If you are really thinking that pokemon of all series would go above and beyond other AAA openworld games, you are a retard. That was my post. Not that its great for doing it, just that its a realistic thing to expect
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>>722584224
>Classic Features such as the day/night cycle, days of the week, and game corner removed
The Gen 4 games had all of those features, and the day/night cycle is still a consistent part of the series identity,with Sun and Moon even using a flipped day-night cycle as a version gimmick. Some regional releases removed the game corners earlier than others, but for most of the world they were still present.
I know you're baiting replies but you can do better.
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>>722583435
That’s because they’re urban retards where you can’t walk into 99% of buildings in any city.
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>>722584224
This ENRAGES the Unova cult despite them being the loudest haters of nu-pokemon.
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>>722587525
The largest city in Skyrim has like 20 buildings in it.
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>>722597513
There were several buildings in Saffron City alone that were unopenable. Fucking secondary.
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>>722598885
There's a fuckton of games where you can go into every building.
Yes, they're all 2D games top-down games, but the point is that Pokemon rakes in so much cash they COULD have every building be interesting with an interior in 3D if they wanted to, but they CHOOSE not to because they're LAZY and want to release 1 game every year.
By saying
>hurr durr of course 90% of the buildings are pointless background noise with no interior
you're letting Game Freak and Nintendo off the hook and encouraging them to continue making SHIT games with no thought put into them.
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>>722597513
Pokemon red was a 15mb sprite game, meanwhile Legends ZA is a massive huge open world game with next gen graphics and fully fleshed out 3D environments. Not the same thing
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>>722599604
>they're LAZY and want to release 1 game every year.
I wonder how pokefags think the game industry works, do you think games just appear or something? Can you release a game every year lmao.
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>>722599750
> massive huge open world game
Doesn't sound like it if you can't even enter houses
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>>722598885
>You cant go in 90% of the buildings of:
>Any ubishit
>Gta
>Spiderman
>Witcher
>A ton of houses in cyberpunk
Literally all of these are bad games, is this what Nintendo is now?
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>>722599943
If they took all the manpower they have and put 100% of their weight behind a project over a 5 year period...
...instead of getting 5 shit games, we would get 1 GOOD game.
Get it? Or are you going to keep gunt guarding for Game Freak, objectively one of the laziest companies that produced the infamous glitchfest that is Pokemon Scarlet and Violet?
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>>722582934
we should be able to though
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
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>>722582934
Why not?
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>>722587564
>skyrim towns
That's the better option.
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>>722584224
Transitional Era >> Dark Year > Soulless >>> "Soul" Era
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>>722600347
>gunt guarding
ESLbro, you should go look up what the word lazy means.
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>>722600797
Congratulations, your brain is incapable of understanding artistic integrity
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>>722588293
If they did it for the old games they can do it for the new ones.
You ever think people like talking to every NPC and Pokemon, huh?
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>>722597513
>Yet we were able to do that since fucking Pokemon RED
no you weren't
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>>722582580
I'm utterly ashamed of being a pokémon fan, I could have been gay or something like a normal outcast, but no I had to be born a pokémon fan
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>>722601001
Sorry to be the one who has to tell you this, but screaming ESL every time someone owns you wont work here.
Shitting out slop is lazy. Taking the time to perfect one single project is not.
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>>722582580
Don't care, still collecting the cards.
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>>722598885
All those games are 10 to 100 times the size this of this one
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>>722582934
Pokemon of all games should be allowing us to access most of the buildings, with at least reasonably detailed interiors
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>>722600163
>goalpost moving
name 5 game that have large scale cities, and full interiors for all the buildings

I have positioned a sword above you that will drop if you say some shit like skyrim that has a "city" made of 5 houses
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>>722601773
Now post any other town/city from the game that isn't Celadon City.
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>>722582580
What the fuck are those textures XDDD
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>>722601360
>Taking the time to perfect one single project is not.
As proven by Bethesda slop and Cyberpunk right? Longer devs cycles than SV, not a single glitch in any of them right anon?
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>>722588589
>lie
>get called out
>UH ACTUIALLY I DON';T GIV EA FUUCK ABOUUT WHAY I SAID BNEFORE
stop breathing
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I purposely spread Pokemon misinformation on the internet to make Joe Merrick seethe.
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>>722602446
The first post saying you can go into 90% of the buildings wasn't me.
I just think it's stupid to compare 30 year old games to modern games. I SHOULD be able to go into most of the buildings in my big city Pokemon game in 2025. Simple as.
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>>722584224
this is fair. I love Tajiri and gens 1+2. only a faggot would argue that the creator being hands on somehow didn't set those games apart.
I also happen to be fond of the advance and DS games. I enjoyed ORAS too of all things, and Legends Arceus. 3DS and Switch era have been total slop on the whole tho
>>722589472
this. I like Black and White because it was cool and weird. I was tired of machop and gastly and psyduck. (not like forevor, but it was nice to have a totally fresh game after playing all the previous games to death) I liked seeing a whole new hemisphere of the pokeplanet

The story was interesting, idealism vs realism played out IRL in a big way throughout the 2010s to today. Also I like how Ghetsis was disingenuous and the whole plot has a lot of comparisons to gun control debate in America. BW deserves credit for its strengths, but yea, the games was linear. Nonlinearity was not its strength. allegedly a response to mt. coronet but stuff like rock tunnel filtered retards since day 1, so I think they caved to whiny parent-tards too easily.

Unova is a surreal NYC with castles and knightly order secret society BS and a weird desert and a nukemon inside the statue of liberty. I just think its neat. I think about Scrafty, Escavalier and Golurk more than every gen 6 7 8 9 'mon put together. The new shit has a stink on it. Gonna buy LegendsZA. Idk if I should get the switch2 for it or not tho
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If every building has interior and people will just complain for having too many useless doors.
People are stupid they just want to complain
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GameFreak is really charging $70-$90 for a game with
>Early HD era graphics
>No voice acting
>Content locked behind an online subscription
>Only three building designs copy and pasted hundreds of times
>NPCs that stay rooted to the ground because walk cycles are hard
>PSP level cutscenes where actions are narrated instead of shown
>Building interiors that are likely a 2D menu that a middle schooler could have coded
And we all know the Switch 1 version will be a dumpster fire
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>>722583570
Hardly. Most of the map is caves and dungeons
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
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>>722582931
>>722582934
Is it bait or retardation?
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>>722582580
The context of this tweet was about clothing customization for the trainer.
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>>722582580
wait we're getting mad at good features being added now?
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>>722603680
You were going right with the first three points then you started inventing things on the fly.
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>>722604204
Anon lost all their logic and reasoning (if ever existed) when they see Pokemon
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>>722584224
Dexcuts probably wouldn't be that bad if they made half of the Dex available at launch title and then made the other half accessible later on when they inevitably included them in a later entry that Generation.
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nintendo fans are really bottom of the barrel fools.
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>>722588293
Still better than "The Lumiose City project has started!"
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>>722604408
You do realise that would result in dex sizes getting increasingly larger still, right?
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>>722604321
I dislike what Game Freak's been doing, but I want the games to be better. It's a little dumb to get mad at good features being added instead of rightfully calling out Game Freak's bad work ethic and hatred for their more hardcore fans.

>>722604475
Would have been fine with this if it was set in ancient times like Arceus was. Also it really was a missed opportunity to not set the game during the Kalos war, you know THE MOST INTERESTING THING BROUGHT UP IN X/Y??????
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>>722604453
Tendies are literal, actual, not figuratively cultists.
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>>722582934
Why are anons pretending to be angry about this?

>>722597513
No, you weren't.
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>>722602041
Here you go, fucktard.
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>>722602971
>I was tired of machop and gastly and psyduck
The problem is they replaced most of gen 1 pokemon... with lower quality copies of those very same pokemon. Most people wouldn't have complained had they given us 151 new and original great designs, but they decided to go with not-machop, not-pidgey, not-muk, not-chansey... And that's sad because the truly original designs they tried in BW were great, adding some memorable ghost and bug lines. Weirdly enough the 5th gen pikaclone (emolga) was probably the best pikaclone ever, an electric mouse yes, but with an interesting typing and a great new move.
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>>722604810
>Why are anons pretending to be angry about this?
I will say that Game Freak is a multi-billion dollar company, so they absolutely have the resources to make every building able to be entered, but I also don't think you should be expecting them to do it if nobody else in the industry is.

>>722601773
anon half of the buildings there don't have doors...
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>>722602041
(in case you need a visual aid)
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>>722605079
>but I also don't think you should be expecting them to do it if nobody else in the industry is.
Exactly. But yes they do make way too much money and should be making better and more detailed games.
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>>722604969
How could anyone escape such a place?
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Just waiting for Aniimo, Honkai Nexus Anima and Cobblemon to fully release and eat at Pokemon's numbers

>you're forgetting Palworld!
I love that game but I can't deny that it's a fucking janky mess run by a bunch of amateur indie developers who don't know what they're doing. Until Pocket Pair ups their quality and releases a game that feels like a genuine AA release, it'll will remain a flash-in-the pan hit to most gamers.
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>>722583956
every building being accessible would just result in lots and lots of empty space
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I played White like 5 years ago. Is White 2 worth playing? Also is this the last gen actually worth playing?
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>>722583435
>>722597513
>>722601225
>>722598885
>>722601773
>>722602041
Since you're all arguing about this I decided to check:

There are 138 buildings in RBY
You can go into 91 of them
So you can enter 66% of the buildings in RBY.

However, 9 of said buildings in Saffron are just barriers/walls at the edge of the screen, so if you wanted to discount these it's 91/129, so 71% in this case.

Therefore, if I can't enter 66% of the buildings in PLZA at minimum, I'm going to be pissed.
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>>722605690
the current gen is pretty fun mechanically in a PVP setting, but no pokemon campaign is good.
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>>722605739
I think that's perfectly reasonable.
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>>722586534
>on average the quality of pokemon games is still higher than digimon games
Holy fucking cope
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>>722605762
>comp pokemon nigger calling anything bad
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>>722605739
PLA probably only gets 20% building interior based on my memory. Anything above that in PLZA will be acceptable
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>>722606027
>person who thinks the only redeemable part of the entire franchise is worse than the campaigns balanced and written for literal toddlers
sorry I insulted your favorite rattle
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>>722605690
There's some new towns and areas, older Pokemon are available from the start, a new story and the Pokemon World Tournament where you can face all the previous gym leaders and champions up to that point. Theres even a hard mode but it's locked behind a stupid transfer key system though. If you liked White then go for it. The latest gen was fun (decent characters and interactions with them, decent lore) but it's open world so there's lots of exploring to do. If you're not into open world then it could be a slow.
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>>722606190
*could be a slog
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>>722605690
Nope, it has all the problems of BW except the rival is 10x more cringe
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>>722606359
BW was kino
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>>722597117
>But they can
wow I guess you're right. They can and just haven't been doing it to fuck with you
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>>722583570
E33 was made by 30 guys and this is made by 10000+
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>>722606396
See >>722584224
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I will create a game where every building can be entered and have AI generate random npc that spouts AI generated responses. Now what?
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>>722606606
Congratulations, you have created a game with more effort than PLZA
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>>722605762
Does this mean just wait for Pokémon Champions?
That PVP-only game they talked about
Have we heard of it ever since it has been revealed?
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>>722606606
Now we will shit on you for making a worthless shovelware
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>>722606721
>Does this mean just wait for Pokémon Champions?
naw you can play on showdown too
>Have we heard of it ever since it has been revealed?
I don't think so, but I am interested to see how the ingame economy works out considering customizing pokemon has a resource cost.
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>>722582580
Pokemon has become such a joke I cannot grasp how there are humans still buying this shit? I was a huge Pokemon fan and while I kinda felt X&Y were a drop in quality, it at least had the novelty behind it of being the first 3d pokemon game with some cool new features. But this shit is insane
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>>722584224
wtf is a jobmon
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>we will spend millions in making useless building interiors that players will forget in 10 minutes
thanks goodness stupid 4chan retards aren’t in charge of any business
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>>722607123
NTA but I guess he means Wrestler, Archer, Soccer player and other mons like that
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>>722582580
my issue is that why make a fucking game set in a CITY if you cant go in most important locations? like a clothing store, or a food store? and why make the city half-ass blocks with no depth? in this picture the fucking marble columns don't even protrude? why would they give you a camera if they didn't want you to take pictures everywhere and if and when you do it'll look shit compared to the characters.
if you only care about the pokemon and not the game itself being somewhat up to par with i dont know xenoblade then just stop making pokemon games and just focus on pokemon Champions. i would like some sort of interesting scenery than just staring at fucking pokemon all day senpai
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>>722607468
>having a bare minimum copy-paste building interior like in every Pokemon game before SV
>costing millions
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nooooooooo how will I play the game if I can't enter a building and talk to 1 NPC who tells me her chansey is cute and nothing else aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>722607654
first time playing any videogame set in a city?
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>>722608020
>not wanting this
Soulless
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Why would they need to point that out?
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>>722587683
I just sent Nintendo an email, you'll be hearing from their lawyers soon :)
We don't need anymore more scam ripoff games like Palworld or Digimon.
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>>722607654
Cities are huge but Lazyfreak will never do something like GTA
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>>722582580
>you should be mad that you can't enter every building in a game
This is kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to get mad at pokemon about. Comparing it to Castelia, another major urban city (which has 0 good in game images on the internet due to how the area was rendered) it had plenty of buildings you couldn't enter either. I'd rather have buildings you can't enter to show that it's a big city over a huge map with a shit ton of pointless rooms or what was in the old games where a town with 3 houses is considered a city.
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>>722582580
you'll still buy it
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>>722608518
I haven't bought a mainline Pokemon game since B&W. I'll be spending my money on upcoming knockoffs like Aniimo, full-release Palworld, Digimon and Monster Hunter Stories 3 instead.
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Digigods won
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>>722608183
on the scale of Z-A i believe its doable with the right amount of effort put in. All we have for Z-A is catacombs and the city. it shouldn't be this hard for them to make, but it seems that they couldn't learn past sword and shield.

>>722608379
>lazyfreak will never do something like GTA
Thats the thing i don't think i want something like GTA i just want something functional and looks nice. The pokemon look like pokemon sure, but the contrasting to the background it looks like shit these pokefags will never learn and will eat this shit off the floor
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>>722608692
HOLY BASED
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>>722597956
>>722597776
Kys moron
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>>722582580
Why is he talking about Pokemon and not hunting whales?
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The comparison with the older games is silly, the older games had just enough buildings to symbolize cities, but what you saw and had access to was obviously not all there was in-universe, you just had a concentrated experience, both for the outsides and insides.
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Did people really like the first Legends that much to warrant a new game?
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>>722582580
of all the things to be autistic about, this is probably the most retarded one
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>>722608692
I hasn’t own Pokemon since 3DS era
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I haven't played any pokemon after gen 2 but I firmly believe anybody who still gives money to this company after pic related must be retarded
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pokemanchild cattle deserves shit games while they are ethnically replaced by spics, nigs and jeets
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>>722608985
this looks really bad but what's the current most KWAB pokeman they've made?
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I enjoyed Platinum but it still isn't as kino as Crystal and both of them weren't as epic as Yellow.
Emerald was a waste of time and everything 3D was a mistake.
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>>722608920
pokefags will eat up anything with the pokemon name on it, even a game as dogshit as PLA.
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>>722608920
It's unironically one of the best pokemon games ever but it's makes a particular schizo very asshurt.
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>>722584224
>one (1) typo
Yep, I’m buying Z-A on release AND the DLC. We eatin’ good grammarbros.
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>>722607654
I remember when posters were saying that the flat textures were artistic decisions in several threads. You can't convince these people. They're literal golems
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>>722584224
>starter evolutions are now designed as "characters"
this is one of the worst things in new pokemon games/generations
this is part of the reason why there's so many degenerate poke fuckers in the series now
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>>722608920
I loved the first legends game. It was the best Pokémon game in more than a decade. This looks nothing like it for the worse.
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>>722609298
that's not even english
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>>722609609
What's fun about catching the same pokemon literally 30 times?
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>>722609693
Play it and find out.
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>>722609747
Shitmon's success is being carried by sales of Eevee plushies and card scalpers and it has been for the best part of a decade.
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>>722609808
>schizophrenia out of nowhere
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>>722609747
I did. I quickly stopped cause it's boring to catch the same pokemon 30 times
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>>722608846
>the older games had just enough buildings to symbolize cities
No, they only did that for the mega cities of each game.
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>>722609693
It was fun, I liked it.
I don’t care if you didn’t.
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>>722609938
soul
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>>722609896
I didn't mean to quote you, I was going to call you a faggot and decided you weren't worth the air.
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>>722609938
you could go in more houses in that city than in all of cuckin s&n
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>>722608920
It sold worse than LGPE, but word of mouth was good. I think everyone admits PLA was a tech demo, but people liked some of it's ideas and wanted to see them expanded on in a follow up. Then for Z-A Game Freak decided to scrap all the things people liked about PLA and just reused the Legends branding since it was the only part of the series with any consumer goodwill.
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>>722610131
>Then for Z-A Game Freak decided to scrap all the things people liked about PLA
I didn't like PLA just because it took place in old Sinnoh, I liked the gameplay in general with catching mons in the overworld and stuff like that.
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>>722582934
>implying you will get more than 10 buildings that you can go inside
>implying said buildings are any larger than the standard house size on skyrim
>implying pokemon centers won't be a fucking menu screen
enjoy your slop, faggot
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>>722584224
>gen 5 bitching
It nice when people make it easy to disregard their opinions lmao
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>>722610131
and you will still buy it
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>>722607654
but you can, thats what this symbol is for
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>>722582580
Don’t care still buying it.
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>>722610257
Interacting with that door boots you out of the game.
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>>722610257
Can you? Or is it just going to open a menu?
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>>722584224
>the official /vp/ guide
I do not respect the opinions of the underaged retards that infest one of the lowest quality boards on this site.
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>>722609369
bro these faggots here love flat shit
cuz they're brains are smooth
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>>722582580
Shit like this is why I only play older pokemon games and romhacks.
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>>722610257
This symbol can mean anything. it can be SV and just lead to a shitass UI for you to choose from, i'd love to see the actual interior if i missed it somewhere
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>>722583608
YOU SEE THAT DOOR

YOU CAN WALK THROUGH IT

Open world fucks are weird, I don't think we will ever understand.
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>>722582934
If there's one IP that could actually afford to make a game where you're able to enter every building, it's Pokemon
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>>722609609
>looks nothing like it
good, the first game was a bad third person shooter where all you did was throw balls at critters or bags of sand at big critters. maybe sometimes you'd do a pokemon battle but it was a watered down version of actual battles, this game looks like it's actually trying to be distinct from the main series while also not being a bland ugly collecta-thon.
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>>722582934
Breath of the Wild did this on the Wii U
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>>722583435
Pokemonfags are cut from the same cloth as sonicfags and genshinfags
All three of these fandoms have been bred to love any mediocre garbage their overlords throw at them
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>>722610880
your mother said the same thing about you
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cant believe all the money pokemon makes this is the best we get
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>>722605739
>Therefore, if I can't enter 66% of the buildings in PLZA at minimum, I'm going to be pissed.
that's a shit way to measure it. you should be mad if there aren't 91 buildings you can enter, that's the real tell if you've gotten ripped off or not.
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>>722582580
This will outsell time strangers, the cope melty will be great
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I wanna play Pokemon let's go Pikachu on my phone but I need a pirated rom, any rec where can I download one from?
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>>722582983
this must make you seethe
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>>722611113
sent ;)
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>>722611329
Ty bby
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>>722582934
>of course you can't go into every building
>of course they can't add every pokemon
>of course there's no post game
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>>722609609
your taste is abysmal shit, i see
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>>722607654
Eat the pig feed, goy
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>>722609938
It doesn't work with 3D looking games, but in purely 2D looking games your mind fills in the blanks
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>>722582580
Merriku will never not approve a Pokemon game even more so now he actually gets paid to do so.
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>>722609938
I grew up with this so I don't apply standards to it.
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>>722611632
Die mad.
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>>722611540
This. Imagine defending no building interiors in 2025.
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>>722587564
>>many real buildings with barebones interiors that serve no purpose
I'll take this. If you're going to base your game in one city and one city only this should be how it goes down.

Not every building has to be accessible, some buildings would naturally be private or not open but most should be enterable, even if there's just pointless NPCs in there like every other Pokemon game.
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>Time Stranger has Digimons looking as good as they ever did
>Meanwhile, one of the most financially successful IPs ever made
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>>722588371
Rockstar games don't even have good gameplay
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>>722582580
serious question. how or why do pokemon fans put up with such low quality slop?
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>>722612905
>Feraligatr with the scribblenauts haircut
What have they done to my boy
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>>722610607
>YOU CAN WALK THROUGH IT
*trigger a loading screen to reach a boxed off interior
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>>722612961
It's a mixture of actual autism, not playing anything asides Pokemon and not knowing that videogames can be better and stockholm syndrome fueled by nostalgia because they've been watching/playing Pokemon since before they could read.
Pokemon CAN'T be bad to them, Pokemon was their childhood.
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>>722612961
It doesn't matter if they "put up" with it or not, there's always 900 billion sales waiting for them. Game Freak could release a game that's just a short video of Pikachu taking a shit and it'd sell several million copies. whether vocal online fans buy or not, there's a silent majority of innumerable children who buy anyway. This is why GF's games are always terrible, XY taught them quality doesn't matter whatsoever, just release sloppa and it sells regardless. They put by far the most effort into BW2 and it flopped massively, then XY was a half-finished shitpile and sold super well on marketing alone.
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>>722582934
uh oh, insane snoytroon meltie in the replies
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>>722582580
Still better than palworld
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>>722610249
>didn't buy SM
>didn't buy USUM
>didn't buy LGBT
>didn't buy SwSh
>didn't buy PLA
>didn't buy SV
What's different now
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>>722582580
>minimap marks elememts on it
How dare they.
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Surprised the Switch 1 version hasn't been dumped yet. Arceus Legends came 10 days before launch. That was fun.
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>>722582983
Pokemon games have always been slop for toddlers.
If you didnt stop playing Pokemon at age 8 you are a retarded manchild.
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>>722582934
>>722611540
>of course you can't go into every building
>of course they can't add every pokemon
>of course there's no post game
>of course there's no battle frontier
>>of course there's no contests
>of course there's no Safari Zone
>of course there's no game corner
>of course there's no secret bases
>of course there's no Gym Leader rematches
>of course there's no PokeRadar
>of course there's no honey trees
>of course there's no berry farming
>of course there's no ball capsules
>of course there's no following pokemon
>of course there's no Pokeathalon
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>>722586310
So its dragon age 2?
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So is this the new thing /v/ pretends to care about but only selectively?
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>>722610848
Nope akkala citadel.

Even TOTK failed to deliver on that.
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>>722614772
>pretending to care about content in the game
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>>722615143
Tell me what content exactly.
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>>722613512
X and Y did make it a lot easier to actually play with other people compared to the DS games.
>pss system let you connect to other players at any time instead of needing to go to a pokemon center
>trainer customization instead of using trainer sprites
>super training made ev training much easier
>breeding for the right ivs got easier with the destiny knot change, same with hidden abilities
As a singleplayer game they have been declining but as a multiplayer game they've made it easier to get into with each entry.
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I can't wait for devs to start listening to you fags and spend more time on interiors of empty buildings for you all to turn around and complain they're wasting dev time.
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>Pokemon still doubling down on singleplayer crap instead of making an MMO centered on PvP
Passing, these games are so easy you can play them blind.
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>>722615206
Literally any of the old Pokemon games
Don't play dumb with me
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>>722613206
anon that's not hair...
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>>722615410
So you want the interior of buildings to be the old pokemon games?
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>>722584224
>Someone makes exactly one (1) post worth listening to
>Entire board bitches continuously about it because he's so incredibly right
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>>722615336
At that point Pokemon Showdown already existed in its modern form, so if you really cared about MP battling the cartridge games were irrelevant
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>>722614563
>So its [WORST SEQUEL EVER MADE]
yeah
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>>722587564
Pokemon "towns" are not even on this list
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>>722586539
Entering every house to talk to NPCs in the vague hope that they might offer some actual gameplay feature and not useless babble was never my favourite part of Pokemon. I don't mind the only buildings I can enter being ones that have a purpose.
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Can't wait for GTA6 coming out and none of you crying about the buildings in that.
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>>722584224
Pokemon is toddlerslop.
You need to be a 5 year old to think the hecking wholesome game where a hecking wholesome kid makes hecking wholesome friends with hecking wholesome doggos and caterinos is interesting in any way.

Pokemon is the epitome of faggotry, the girliest sissy game ever made.
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>>722616019
You sound underage and insecure.
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>>722615889
It's only bad when Nintendo/Game Freak does it
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>>722615889
GTA6 will be at least 10x bigger with a ton more content. Hell you don't even have to go to gta6. No pokemon game measures up to San Andreas in terms of scope
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>>722616220
And you sound like an American millennial who collects funko pops and watches Disney Star Wars movies.
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>>722616384
Ah so it's only bad when Nintendo do it.
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>>722616384
So did RDR2, and that game has caused way more asshurt here than any Pokemon game ever did.
7 years and we still get daily seethe threads.
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>>722616517
Yeah think I hit the nail on the head perfectly.
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>>722612953
Not really the point. They have the best production value in the business and every time a Rockstar game comes out it's an industry-shaking phenomenon that breaks sales records where everyone else panics and starts moving release dates around just to avoid them. The production value of the flagship pokemon games is fucking embarrassing considering it's literally the biggest IP in the world. The rapid release schedule cheapens the brand and makes a new pokemon game feel more like a routine than an event to get excited about. They've been coasting off of pokemania for almost 30 years now instead of trying to reinvoke it. Investing more time and money into the main series would make it an even bigger franchise.
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>walk into building
>empty generic layout #10000
Woah can't believe Game Freak are refusing to add such deep content.
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>>722616626
Same here.
All Marvel/Star Wars/Pokemon fans say the same when you laugh at them for their slurping up kid media.
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>>722617025
More insecure projection.
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>>722617127
Are those not for kids?
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>>722582580
I preordered the game on Amazon for my Switch 1. :)
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It's going to be like SV and it's all the same store.
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>>722602470
I wish people would just reply to his tweets with old tweets and gamefaqs post of his. He used to be super critical of the series till Nintendo fucked him in the ass.
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>>722616658
Rockstar games are just live service shit and everything else is marketing. People making soiposts "woaw!" about horse balls on social media because they literally get paid to engagement farm 24/7
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>>722584224
>unovamutt seethe generator
Keep it up, anon.
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>>722582931
Old pokemon games had houses with interiors, it wasn't until they went 3D that suddenly they needed to save time and money by making most of the interactive buildings into menus you don't actually enter.
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>>722618203
What about all the buildings which didn't have interiors in the old games?
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>>722582580
Pokémon going to 3D was a mistake
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you get banned for nothing on 4chan nowadays, newfag mods and jannies are ruining the site for everyone
no wonder this site is dying
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>>722618472
What I was getting at was that they didn't fake a bunch of buildings that seemed like you could enter them in the older games; if a building had a door, you were meant to enter in eventually. If it didn't, you could safely assume it was just window dressing and move on.
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>>722618203
I'd imagine it's a lot easier to make building interiors with 2D sprites than it is 3D. Even though I don't dislike some of the new Pokemon in 3D, overall I think they should've just stayed 2D. Gamefreak is just really bad at making 3D environments and games, and it shows.
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>>722619521
So you'd be fine if ZA didn't have doors on buildings?
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>>722605185
100% agree
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>>722618680
That was obvious the moment they made the transition. just looking at every single flying pokemon and how they float like retarded parade floats should've made the devs realize 3D was a waste of time.
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>>722619698
you arent being clever you are annoying and people hate you.
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>>722620085
No you said it was fine in the old games so why not now?
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I don't remember the starters's names for the last 4 gens
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>>722620186
No-one does
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Why are the boy characters allowed to have long hair in Pokemon?
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>>722620335
Cause guys can have long hair?
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>>722620335
they be 80's niggas
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>>722620395
boys are meant to have short hair
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>>722620635
According to who?
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>>722620705
In the bible, in 1 Corinthians 11:14, it says "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a dishonor to him?" and society says boys should have short back and sides haircut
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>>722582580
Gotta pozz 'em all, gotta pozz 'em all, wokeymon!
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>>722620797
So wokeslop says it.
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Witcher 3 is my yardstick for measuring standards. You can't go in every building in it. This is a nothing burger.
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>>722582934
you could in older gaems
3d pokeshit looks gay as fuck
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>>722583435
Will never understand this mentality for open world city games. Thought the fags that say what you're saying about GTA are retarded too. What the fuck would be the benefit of modeling 100s of different interiors so that every building can be entered when that doesn't remotely fit into the natural gameplay loop of the game. What gameplay purpose would those interiors actually serve?
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>>722621117
You've been BTFO multiple times in the thread already.
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>>722582934
>>722582931
>>722582893
>>722613661
>>722613551
Hello famitsufag
Gen 2 and 5 won
DistantKingdom won
Expedition 33 won
Ghost of Yotei surprisingly won
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>>722582580
Isn't this the standard for every congested 3D city environment in videogames though? I don't think you could enter every building in GTA San Andreas or more modern titles like Tears of the Kingdom for Nintendo Switch.
>but Pokemon has the money to do it
Probably. Would they do it? Absolutely not, unless they were completely insane. There's a lot of things they COULD do with the money they DO rake in, but they allocate a certain budget and time schedule to these games, which are to the game's detriment. But of all the essential features that their modern games lack, adding random interiors and scrimblos to every goddamn building in a game based in a giant city is incredibly low on the list.
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>>722615343
>implying you can't do both
Elder Scrolls, Yakuza, BotW would like a word with you.

>>722615608
Any that had doors you could enter. This was also back in the past. And in games where you could explore a whole region and not just focus on a single town.
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>>722615758
Still sold millions btw
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>>722583608
>>722621434
See
>>722621529
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>>722621529
You can't enter every building in Yakuza.
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>>722620958
You could in zelda.
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>>722608920
Kek no, it's literally the most forgotten Pokemon game. Dogshit tech demo couldn't even beat Gen 8
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/new-top-100-ranking-of-japanese-peoples-favorite-games-dominated-by-domestic-classics-like-mario-and-pokemon-except-for-the-number-one-spot/
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>>722611301
>old game
>small staff
>2 whole regions
You failed, got lost, and got raped.
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Don't see you fags crying about Persona 5 not letting you enter every building.
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>>722582580
I know Joe Merrick runs Serebii and it shouldn't be surprising, but it annoys me how there are no lengths he will go to defend the Pokémon franchise even when it is indefensible and be insufferable while doing so.

>You weren't 100% accurate in your criticism of Pokémon, Game Freak, and the Pokémon Comapny, therefore the spirit of your criticism is invalid. Sorry, I don't take kindly to misinformation!

I wish someone would drag his ass across the pavement.
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>>722621529
All three examples you gave attain that because of limitations in other senses.

TES and BotW have interiors because they have no large and complex cities, all of their "cities" are barely even villages. Solitude and Whiterun are not even a fraction of what they're meant to be.

Yakuza maintains it because it 1) focuses entirely on hyper density and as a result has a small map and 2) heavily reuses locations.

These are all valid things to do, but you need to recognise they only make it work because of the limitations they accept. There's a reason GTA doesn't do it.
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>>722583608
that’s just pokemon nowadays
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The real issue is staying on these gay ads Nintendo handheld instead of moving on PC where a proper game can be made
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>>722621971
>PC
>can't even get 60 FPS on decade old Sony games
lmao
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>>722621607
>>722621529
you absolute piece of shit, 2/3rds of those games dont have cities nearly as big in those games as Lumiose City. It's not a rinky-dink village, its an entire FUCKING CITY MADE OF CONCRETE, STEEL, AND BRICK. And you can't enter every building in Yakuza either. Fuck off.
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>>722584224
>forced meme
Imagine being autistic enough to copy the mario mandate shit
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>>722582934
>Of course you cant go in every building
You could go on mostly every building before gen 8 disaster
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>>722584224
>game has DLC
>HURRR tHEREFORE It'S REEAL PRICE IS 90
the autism....
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>>722622416
They're selling you 80% of a game and shipping the 20% with an additional price tag. Shit man, they announced paid DLC before the "full game" even came out.
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>>722605084
My baby ass tried to enter these houses from the back so many times due to the two houses that have back exits.
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>he's really spreging out over the fact that you can only enter some buildings in a massive city
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>>722621338
thats my first post fuckheadface
your souless 3d crap looks like something from the late 90s on ps2 fuck right the fuck offfffffffffffffffff
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>>722582934
they seethed for he speaks truths
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>>722582934
Sip man is a dead meme, but goddamn you toddlers will eat literal shit and smile. Far beyond any level that can be measured.
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>>722609938
Apparently the most abused word in Pokemon isn't evolution, but city.
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>>722622598
Digimon would be like 100 due to day one costume DLC then. It's a retarded argument to say the perimum price is the default because you feel entitled to everything.
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>>722622757
>noooooo the le old le good le games totes heckin did
>nooooo it doesn't heckin count when they le had empty buildings
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>>722623072
>Digimon would be like 100 due to day one costume DLC then
Not only is that WORSE, but the Legends Arceus DLC isn't a bunch of shitty costumes but an entire extra story that continues off the end of the base game.
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>>722622598
its like nobody learned from the Street Fighter x Tekken fiasco but the companies. They now know to not add the content they want to sell as dlc on the disc, they just dropped the disc entirely so it will never be an issue now.
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>>722622598
They're only announcing and releasing the DLC "early" as G10 would completely overshadow it when it's announced during the Pokemon Day direct.
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>to get the full experience you need to pay $120 for the cut base game content and starter megas
>game looks like its from 2007
>will run like shit regardless
>combat looks half assed and buggy
>world is flat and lifeless
Rip Legends, its been consumed by Nintendo greed
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Only reason to get the game is for Megas, I'm just going to wait and see how it goes but honestly think it will be mid. Lost a lot of interest with the whole Day 0 DLC for a fucking mega.
>>722605690
>Is White 2 worth playing?
I liked it more than the originals if that's worth anything.
>Also is this the last gen actually worth playing?

>main story
Okayish, champion sucks ass, the "final" area is pretty cool though
>DLC 1
Pretty good, especially if you go with a new team from that area.
>DLC 2
Very good, main focus is double battles and catching a ton of new pokemon.

My favorite Pokemon game if you play on Switch 2 with DLC.
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>>722624134
pokemon games have a ridiculously short life don't they. you do so much as blink and they're already outdated.
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>>722582580
Why didn't anyone make this complaint when Spiderman 2 came out?
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>>722624308
>Rip Legends, its been consumed by Nintendo greed
rip legends? are we going to pretend plass didn't
>make you buy a shitty remake to get the full experience and catch darkrai
>look like a gamecube tech demo
>run like shit
>combat was even more dumbed down than mainline with what little battles there were being some of the shittiest in the series
>flat ugly plains with 3 total settlements
you faggots live in an alternate reality if you think PLA was good lmao
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>>722582983
Most of those people stopped playing pokemon by now. Only fat neckbeards care about nostalgia.
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>>722624492
do you have this image on standby
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>>722584224
>each Pokemon is designed with passion
>magnemite
>rattata
>grimes
Lol Gen 1 does have good dungeons for their first effort though. Gen 2 was severely lacking
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>>722582934
There's no way you're fucking real. Somebody could hand you shit on a plate and you would eat it with joy knowing that it would spite people who have even the slightest bit of standards. Actually kill yourself. I feel sorry for you. Nintendo drones are actually insane
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>>722582983
I think they'd remain about the same. genuine poke-cultists are pretty rare in comparison to the sheer amount of normalfags that recognize and buy Pokemon. probably wouldn't change that much considering pokemon was always behind its peers, the gap just grew bigger over time
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>>722582931
Postal 2 did it 20 years ago.
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>>722624779
are you DONE samefagging for your reddit screencap yet?
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>>722622416
>Buy car
>Expect all the features to be in the car when you buy it
>The seat and steering wheel are missing
>Those are sold seperately
>Oh and because there are also multiple versions of the car with slight differences, you have to buy the specific seats and the specific steering wheel for your model, and if you buy the wrong version no refunds
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>>722624865
no im not.
>>722582934
SEEK HELP you mentally ill shit eating poketurd
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>>722624492
Didnt personally play Arceus but i heard good things so i was looking forward to ZA only to be met with an obvious scam

Guess i got tricked into buying a $500 paperweight again
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>>722582934
If you're going to have the game set in a single city, at least 90% of the interior space should be accessible. I shit on cyberpunk 2077 for this, and I will shit on Pokemon for this.
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>>722612905
What the fuck is that creature?
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>>722582580
>Pokemon is cooked
does everyone on this board have to type like a darkie now?
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>>722624865
Nigger that was my first post in the thread. You're the reason why video games are dying. The reason they're dead.
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>>722599750
>meanwhile Legends ZA is a massive huge empty world game with (if we're being charitable) last gen graphics and barren, underdeveloped 3D environments
This is how your post looks to anybody who isn't a deranged cultist.
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>>722613206
>>722625494
It's some Typhlosionfag's AI slop. The game hasn't even leaked.
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>>722621605
Gachashit "sells" like hotcakes. Please don't do yourself the disservice of pretending for an instant that sale quantity equates to quality, even if the two are sometimes correlated.
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>>722582580
Pokemon is dead
>>722582983
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>>722582580
>Joe Merrick
MISTAH MERRICKU BUGASU IN ANASU
This faggot shilled the last few switch slop games, he's been deepthroating gamefreak for years now
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>>722587564
>tfw skyrim towns are still the leading balance between interactivity and size
there's no hope for vidya
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>>722584224
>genwunner
The DS era was the best Pokémon has ever been
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>>722621529
I don't remember you can go into all buildings in ykz.
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>>722624941
You have never bought a new car in your life.
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>>722629589
NTA you can there are some fast food, convivence stores and some building you can actually enter and like a dragon has way more places you enter the only places that don't have enterable places was thats mall area i forgot the one next to the big gang
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>>722631360
>all
>some
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>100s of different interiors
Lumiose city isnt that big...
the entire game takes place in one enclosed city, and 90% of the buildings are just flat decorations. if you cant even be asked to decorate the exterior, you can at least make more of them enterable. Theyre still making their buildings flat with windows just being textures painted on.

Remember this is the highest grossing franchise of all time.
Pic related is a random interior in assassins creed unity from 2014 (11 years ago); and i bet my top dollar that not a single building interior or exterior in pokemon ZA will be half as detailed as this.
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>>722631457
mb i misread you're post also i still find it stupid that they couldn't model a simple interior for the buildings but that's asking too much for a company who spams all they're buildings with Genericbuilding.jpeg textures 24/7
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>>722584224
Putting ruby and sapphire there is dishonest. Its after that it started to decline. in ruby and sapphire the pokemon still looked normal, its in pearl/diamond that they started the retarded nu-souless look.
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>>722634002
shut the fuck up zoomer
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>>722584224
>gen3 and gen4 le bad
stop reading there
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>>722634087
zoomers didnt play R/S retard. Just look at the styles of pokemon from then on after. its obvious they took an entirely different philosophy after it.
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>>722634201
>look at the style of pokemon that come from poopy and shitpphire
>ugly retarded digimon, luvdisc, and fursuits
its time you dilate lil zoom
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You will all still buy it.
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>>722608920
I did. I wouldn't call it a good game, but I did enjoy it, which is more than what I can say for most of the other 3D games. Plays well, actually tried something other than almost wholesale copypasting gameplay from 1996, has a nice artstyle under the grime of the graphics, I like the old timey setting.
What I've seen of PLZA hasn't been convincing however. Will have to play it I guess
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>>722621806
More buildings than AZ! Also has entire dungeons.
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>>722622209
>Lumiose
>big
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>>722622893
>>722622714
Not wise for you to melt down like this.
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>>722583570
>overworld with many zones
>indie devs
>vs. a game with a single town
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So when's the PC version coming out?
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>>722582934
>of course my $70 + $40 DLC game is incomplete. It's just normal!
Mouth-breathing pokefag retard
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I was actually looking forward to this game because I thought it would surely be a big improvement over Arceus and it wouldn't be as lazy as the mainline games or actively had the target audience. Was I ever fucking wrong. This game gets exponentially worse every time I see more if it revealed. Pokemon being the biggest franchise and also the worst is a blessing
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>>722584224
>each Pokemon is designed with passion
Stopped reading. I hate Pokemon and even I know this isn't true. Look at Electrode and tell me they spent more than two microseconds designing it.
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>>722583608
The real answer is it's annoying see this series move backwards in real time. Something like multiple explorable buildings like we had in the last 20 years worth of games seems like another one of the bare minimum expectations when Gamefreak has already
>cut out half the pokemon
>cut out roughly half of the moves
>removed the battle frontier
>removed the battle tower
>removed E4 rematches
>removed contests
>removed past gimmicks like megas and z moves (in favor for newer, lazier gimmicks)
>somehow made online worse with each new releases
You would think at some point there would be SOME positive trade off for the newer titles but all we've gotten were 3D Pokemon games that run at 480p 18fps.
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>>722637997
>>cut out half the pokemon
>>cut out roughly half of the moves
>>removed the battle frontier
>>removed the battle tower
>>removed E4 rematches
>>removed contests
>>removed past gimmicks like megas and z moves (in favor for newer, lazier gimmicks)
>>somehow made online worse with each new releases
its funny plass did all of this for a shitty dark souls roll and transgender landorus as the postgame and subhumans still suck if ott
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>>722582934
>Smart, content-dense map design is a foreign concept to the open-world bab
If my favorite RPGMaker H-games can do it, so can the game company with infinite dosh.
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>>722638225
Tbh i actually liked PLA for what it was and if they actually evolved the series following that formula, then to me all the cuts would be justified.
And then not even a year later they release Scat and Vomit and it's somehow significantly worse than Legends across the board like they didn't learn fucking anything. So I'm all for shitting on their ambitious $70 tech demos as well.
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>>722609938
Comfy and visually appealing.
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>>722588293
let me guess, you need more?
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>>722638589
I liked PLA, my biggest thing about it though is it felt like what Pokemon should've been doing a decade before it.
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>>722638781
I miss the early threads.... maybe because I was sleep deprived enough to laugh at anything but still....
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>>722582580
> "Look at all those boutiques! In a Pokemon game! And some you can enter!"
This is sad.
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>>722582580
Nintendo/gamefreak’s refusal to put effort into a Pokémon game should be studied
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>>722582580
You can't even acess half the buildings in GTA, which is similarly almost entirely in a city. I'm all for shitting on thr new Pokémon games but this is a bs criticism.
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>>722583435
>>722583550
>>722583956
>Let's just make more empty open space to serve zero fucking purpose!
Open world games ruined a generation.
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>>722582983
I stopped playing after the release of original gold/silver. The quality just keeps getting worse.
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>>722582580
Having to explore every building sounds boring and lame. Why are you pretending to mad about this?
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>>722595997
GTA 4 had the most enterable buildings. More than GTA 5. If they didn't have the most, then they had the most interesting. Most enterable buildings in 5 were little stores.
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>>722582893
Correct
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>>722612953
how?
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why play this dogshit when digimon time stranger exist?
like its not even funny anymore lol
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how is this even part of the legends series again?
from what i've seen this has more in common with mainline pokemon games than legends
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>>722601382
Those do look great.
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>>722609693
Because it takes 1/100th of the time to catch a pokemon in the other games?
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>>722583570
Nooooo that doesn't count because it just doesn't ok????
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>>722623210
3d pokomon is a shit end of story
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>>722618073
You are a low IQ retard.
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>>722644621
Notice how he doesn't say I'm wrong?
I'm noticing. (High IQ)
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>Pokemon ZA combat actually looks fresh and fun
>The biggest problem people have is le buildings
Honestly I think we will be ok
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>>722582931
Pokemon invented building interior in games, ever since the gameboy era. No kidding.
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>>722645585
>Look fresh
Fucking christ...
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>every building is a loading screen to a small interior scene instead of just being seamless like GTA-style games on the PS3/360
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>Entire game set in 1 large city
>Most ""buildings"" are small stalls in front of doors to no where
>Buildings you can enter, are few and set to quest access only
>Few NPCs are out and about, most just stand still doing nothing
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>>722587430
Megaman Legends 2,and that one's from the PS1. Surely the Switch can match the power of the PS1, right?

...Right?
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>>722582580
Could be miss remembering but wasn't their only the one gym in the city? What is the plan there?
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>>722646170
You're not doing the gym challenge
There's some other ranking system
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>>722599305
the largest one in pokemon has like 1 or 2
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>>722645585
look at the fucking laptop texture and logo.
Why the FUCK is it pixelated in a goddamn cutscene?
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>>722589986
t. anglo cuck
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>>722648848
>a logo that could be reduced to a 1/4 chunk and UV mapped to create the full logo
>instead they just paste it in full and compression artifacts murder it all around
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>>722645585
>combat looks fresh and fun
Jesus christ the autistic pokemon community really does have zero standards or even a backbone
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>>722606463
>this is made by 10000+
no it isn't lmao, it's a AA game
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Nice nigger lingo, faggot.
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>>722641726
Just because something is fast doesn't mean it's suddenly fun to do 30 times in a row
And it takes more like 1/10 of the time
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>>722649686
nta, I'm not a pokefag but even I think this new combat system is interesting enough to at least try emulating the game. sort of reminds me of Digimon world 1 where combat happens in real time and you yell out orders to your critter.
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>>722651150
That was the worst aspect of digimon world. The best aspect was the organic exploration and sense of discovery for both locations and evolutions.
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>>722582931
Oblivion did this over a decade ago. Hell, Morrowind did this.
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What the actual fuck is this entire thread. I am going to be getting the game I have already preordered it but what the absolute FUCK is with pokemon shills on /v/????
Do you fucks not play any other games or something?????? Is your entire experience of all of gaming just pokemon or some shit to be defending this shovelware tier slop? There are romhacks , right now with way more fucking effort put in, go play Pokemon crystal clear, Pokemon Wilds, anything, fans put way more fucking effort for literally anything. The only damn copium to keep going with this slop is the hope that in some distant day itllybe worth it with the whole multimedia spheel they're setting up with apps like pokemon sleep and shit like that upcoming champions game to have made putting up with this trash worth it, the games are fucking awful what the fuck is wrong with you freaks trying to defend this shit
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>>722615889
The GTA series at least has shit to do in it. As someone with 680 hours in Pokemon Scarlet the open world is fucking EMPTY. PLA did things so much better but you insufferable faglords here and on /vp/ just wouldn't stop throwing tantrums about it NOT being pure slop
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Am I too normal for this board this entire thread just beams these words into my brain:
>Normal people: "I have work today"
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>>722645585
The new combat system looks fucking awful and will kill interest in the series. Just ask any VGC comp sweat, no one wants this or asked for it you delusional retard
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>>722582934
>of course it's okay to consume dog shit
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>>722652763
"You like pancakes? So you hate waffles?" ass reply
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>>722652730
Normal people don't spend the whole day on /v/ defending and shilling for slop. Its all Babel Media shills from India.
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>>722652793
Nah I'm not shilling Pokemon at all I just think both sides are being annoying
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>>722652785
Kys faggot
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>>722652828
Awww baby's trying so hard to look tough :D Look at you throwing that little slur around
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>>722652820
Go back to reeddit you whiny nonce
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>>722652880
Can you atleast spell it right?
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>>722582983
it would be fine if there was actual content in the game

>>722605739
are there even actual buildings in SV besides the school?
by that i mean stuff that isn't just a trainer gauntlet or a single floor sub area. i can recall a few here and there
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Listen, they'll announce Mega Whimsicott in a few days and then world peace in the Pokemon community will finally be achieved
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>>722582580
Would they sue if Palworld had a city with enterable buildings?
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>>722582934
Hi Joe
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>>722624475
Because spiderman 2 doesn't have painted on balconies like in ZA?
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>>722582580
MISTAH MERRICKU
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>>722582931
These replies aren't genuine. Just a heads up. No game exists where you can just enter every single building in the game. They are saying all this bullshit because its fun for them to shit on Pokemon. Go slow!
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>Brazilians blatantly lying about other games, just to shit on PokeMon

This is fucking absurd levels of NDS.
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>>722620797
Nigga, Jesus had long hair. Get out here with this nonsense
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>>722582931
They better be, before I decide to patent it on them
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>>722604204
>taking away building interiors for menus is a good feature being added
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>>722655614
Yeah I don't wanna walk up to every store
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>>722582934
That's some pristine bait , really hooked up the big ones



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