Ive been playing pic related for the first time.It's alright, but why are so many people hyping over this? The other day someone on/v/ mentioned this was the OOT before OOT came out. Am I missing something?
>>722590107oot wishes it had the world design, emergence and characters of Mega Man Legends.
>>722590107MML and Kingsfield 3 curbstomp OoTNEVER trust tendies
I love the voice acting, graphics, and characters.
>>722590193Oh yeah MML sure beat the world design of OOT with the..*checks notes* grasslands, city and underground. >>722590483This is actually what it excels in.
>>722590107Why didn't snoybros get a zelda like with mml graphics? These visuals to me are still so charming
>>722590107It's a great game for when it came out and a great game for reliving that time. Things could certainly be better but you're playing a game that's decades old wtf would you expect? The fact that it's still "alright" after all this time should say a little something >t. Played it last year
>>722590107It's got SOVL.
>>722590864>entire world is interconnected>hmmmm he must be talking about aestheticsRetard
>>722591174>Things could certainly be better but you're playing a game that's decades old wtf would you expect?I play games that are decades old all the time. I love playing Romhacks for N64 games for example.
>>722590107Fan content often tends to make things seem more interesting than they actually are. Skyrim is probably the only thing that escapes this because you can inject all the weird stuff people think up directly into the game through modding.
>>722590107Often cited as peak low-poly art is the primary standout feature that gets it into a lot discussions, but I've never seen "so many people ***hyping***" over it.
Reminder Kingsfield 3 is the best zeldaKingsfield 4 is the best metroid prime
>>722591337>>entire world is interconnectedSo is OOT. I don't get your point.
>>722591619Yeah I'm thinking King's Field and Zelda lost bigly
>>722591586Not him, but the guy he responds to quite literally says MML beats OoT
>>722591868oh this is true, I got them mixed up. I must delete my post before I get embarrassed in from of all of 4chan.
>>722591780>So is OOTlol
>>722592096Award winning argument. Obviously you went to ivy league am I right?
>>722592193What's the central dungeon that connects every area in oot?
>>722590107Nice art. Cool world. What more could you want.
>>722591804Kingsfield Lynn BTFOs her
>>722592305Interconnected is a broad word that can mean many things, I can argue that OoT is interconnected because you can go to almost any place in the game from Hyrule fieldAlso being able to go to any place from underground ruins is not some kind of big achievement, the sequel threw that out of the window too since is not important at all
>>722592305The Lost Woods. Next question please.
>>722593624Never made much sense, basically lacks good level design and is made irrelevant by warps.
>>722593678Holy cope that guy got you just secede like a good bitch
>>722590107You aren't missing anything. Legends 1 and 2 are overhyped games. Okay, but kinda bland. Enough so that I never bothered to beat either one, even after having a lot of fun at the start.
>>722594539>bro you're so wrong bro why don't you just believe itBecause this is bad world design, why does this connect over here? It's not even believable.
>>722594741I'm sure a lot things in life don't make sense to you, doesn't negate them. It's a fantasy setting maybe use your imagination unless you're just a mouth breathing npc
>>722594918>It's a fantasy settingNice cop-out, it's bad game design.
>>722590107It's just a really solid game. Good voice acting from a time before voice acting was in most games, good animations, good music, really great dungeon design, decently challenging fights, tons of rewarding side quests, a town that gets destroyed and rebuilt based on your efforts, and lots of dialogue from NPCs that updates pretty regularly as you play through the game.
>>722590107MML has okay gameplay with an incredibly charming world and characters. OoT has nothing except for being millennial tendie's first 3D adventure game.
>>722592096>>722592305So have you never looked at the map and noticed that the lost woods connect to everything besides the fucking desert?>>722593678>never made much sense lol come on
>>722595787The lost woods is a boring section of the game and its use as a thoroughfare is tacked on and not even remotely useful outside of epic oot trivia like being able to cut signs horizontally and vertically.It does nothing interesting, and its inclusion is at best hollow. Sad to even defend it or pretend it serves the same purpose as the subgate ruins. It didn't even copy them which is even sadder considering how much oot lifts from other games.
>>722591780OoT is a shitty hub and spoke world with choke point warps. MML is an actual to scale interconnected world. Skip the tendie mental gymnastics where you pretend these are somehow comparable.
>>722590107wtf are you playing it on, the resolution and rendering is completely fucked up
>>722593624The Lost Woods in OoT has almost zero enemies. Same with Hyrule field. It's incredibly simple to just run right through without any trouble. Meanwhile, the ruins in MML contain lots of enemies, both weak and strong. It's a challenge to travel through them, so it's very rewarding later when you can delve deeper and cut through them.
>>722590107pure SOVL
Megaman Legends and Ocarina of Time are both good.
>>722597358Yes and Majora's Mask is better and Ocarina.
>>722596257I just grabbed an image from the internetI'm actually playing the N64 version
>>722597358They're a similar game but excel in different areas, legends just excels in a lot more areas.
>>722597358Wow, look at this faggot and his nuanced opinions.
>>722597642>>>I'm actually playing the N64 versionWhy would you do that to yourself? That's the worst version to play by an order of magnitude.
In addition to MM Legends, there needs to be more brave fencer musashi threads.
>>722597934Musashi and Digimon World 1 are arguably my 2 favorite PS1 games. They have fans here, but not constant threads, and it's unfortunate that other games aren't like them.
>>722597642You're literally better off playing that shit as a PSOne Classic on a Vita and that doesn't even have dedicated r2/l2 buttons.
>>722590864>le epicly checks notes redditlyDie
>>722590107They never actually played OOT. Mystical Ninja is more comparable and came out months before MML, but since it's not a PlayStation game they don't mention it.
>>722599639Everyone played oot.
>>722590107They were probably talking about MML2 (which wasn’t before OOT, but it’s also not the same game at all). I always thought MML1 was underwhelming.
>>722599724Not the people who pretend MML is proto-OOT when the games play nothing alike.
>>722597642I always played the N64 version for nostalgia. It's what I had originally. But the Playstation version is just straight better.
MML2 is an all time hood classic.
>>722599809They have similarities that can be compared and contrasted. Why do you think MML fans have intimate knowledge of oot? Because they played it. Can't say the same about ootfans, who are famous for not playing other games.
>>722590107It doesn't immediately jump at you. It's when you're halfway into it that you realize how much soul it has.
I think I bought MML2 for the PS3 ages ago. Never booted it up once. Gotta give it a try.
>>722599786>They were probably talking about MML2no, they always refer to the first one for some reason
>>722595149Explain why it's bad design
>>722600186The only throughline is that they're action-adventure games where you talk to NPCs. They don't even have the same controls or world design. Is it because of the dogshit targeting system?
Every modern retro-styled indie game tries to look like Legends.
>>722602051It's on you to prove why it's good.>>722602319You're being obtuse.
>>722602342No, the common style these days is imitating Resident Evil/Silent Hill for horror games and SM64 for platformers.
>>722594741>why does this connect over here?
>>722602543you made the claim it's bad design. Explain why it's bad
>>722594741The zoras made a deal with the fishing hole.
>>722603312>trAInime
>>722593456that's why the sequel SUCKSthat, and giving all the reaverbots two eyes instead of one
Bone Tron.
>it's a zoomers struggle to understand influential games level
>>722603351If you weren't a petulant child filled with rage you might be able to read his post>>722594741
>>722594741Don't look up cave diving.
>>722590107No one actually cares about the game, they just goon over Roll and Tron. Most Legends 'fans' have never even actually played the games.
>>722590107>Am I missing something?No, you were just fed bullshit by some autist that's been saying that for years.There's a reason OoT is talked about more often than this kusoge.
>>722603692I believe it therefore it's believable.
>>722603692>petulant child filled with ragewhy are you projecting? Please just explain exactly why it's bad design
>>722603823>There's a reason OoT is talked about more often than this kusoge.Tendies don't play games.
I like MML1 alot, kind of wish 2 was set in one big island like 1 was but 2 does benefit from the change in setting variety wise, though it really could've done without the underwater ruins.
Thread derailed.
>>722604063Tendies don't play OoT either so I don't know what point you were trying to make.
>>722600031mml1 is a certified hood /v/lassic as well, don't worryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY2IpEvqZw0
>>722604203Millennial tendies all played the same 8 N64 games.
>>722604361Sorry pal but we're all snoys now according to them.
>>722603835I'll allow it>>722603859What part of his post confuses you? If you can't answer his post then take the post to your middles school english teacher
MML1 is a little rough around the edges going back to it, but it has a really charming world and cool design that's pretty unique. There's so many little stories and bits of dialogue you can miss if you're not going around and talking to people in between points of progression. It's much closer to Majora's Mask's world design in that regard. Although it's also kind of funny how small the main dungeons are in MML1. I replayed it recently and remembered them being much bigger than just 3-4 rooms.
>>722604490>What part of his post confuses youthe part where you avoid actually explaining why it's bad design
>>722603859>>722603835See: >>722596068 >>722596335Propose a counter-point to that.
>>722594741Because the arrow goes the other way around, you dumb flat-earther
>>722604792He said it in the post below. Just click the long set of numbers with ">>" in front of it. The same function works on on your phone, but you dont "click" you tap the screen with your finger.If you weren't a petulant child filled with rage you might be able to read his post>>722594741
