DO SOMETHING!
k, ultimate is $40 now
>>722594617Like what? Magically crap out a massive ton of woke-free games that are actually good?
My only advice is to pawn that shit now while pawn shops are still willing to accept them.
>>722594617lol writing has been on the wall since xbone came out that they are retiring consolesthe most obvious sign its over was the marketing campaign that everything is a xbox that they are transitioning to being just a service/publisher like sega
>>722594617We heard your concerns, gamepass now doesn't include online play by default, going forward thats going to cost an extra $20 a month.
>>722595274>that they are transitioning to being just a service>*raises prices so high everyone unsubs from the service*Well at least they can publish games.
>>722595479They released the best console hardware wise ever being the series x and no one bought it. Makes sense for them to dump and run.
>>722595479>sales slump>raise prices to combat the slumping sales and keep the profits up>make sales slump even furtherIt's the death trap of any company. They should be lowering prices and even going as far as under-cutting Steam prices to entice gamers back in.
>>722595917>best console hardwareShame they didn't do anything worthwhile with the software for it.
>>722595917>MUH BESTEST HARDWAREDidn't you learn anything from the beatdown the PS2 gave the Xbox? Hardware matters, but the games matter even more.
>>722594617Everytime they do something its either a price hike, a canceled project, some lgbtwwtbbq+ shit, or lies.
>>722594896>woke-freeyou will always be trapped in your mind prison. nothing they release will free you.
>>722596748Woke free games is all we want
Today they confirmed that the discounts game pass subscribers got when buying games is being removed.They did something, they made the product worse again.https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-confirms-it-scrapped-the-xbox-game-pass-discount-on-all-games-and-dlc-purchases-gives-subscribers-more-rewards-points-instead
>>722596990I just want good games. I dont give a fuck what shit brainwashing they put in so long as the game is good. Xbox is incapable of making good games though.
>>722594617Uhhhh uhhhh>buys game studio for 8 billion>shuts it down after 14 months of cancelling their projectsAI is the future btw
>>722596492>>722596671I agree, they fucked up big time game wise. Thats the same as last gen xbox one gen. 360 they had good software but back then you had men running the teams and company. Series x had pajeet and vlack women in high positions lmao .
Honestly I sold my series x, had hundreds of games from 360 and bone and this gen and I dont miss any of it. Gaming sucks. Shooting, smashing things even walking is more fun than gaming.
>>722595274>>722595479So what is this then>I am thrilled to share we have established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices including our next-generation Xbox consoles, in your living room, and in your hands
>>722598353Old outdated statement that happened a while ago before all this
>>722598174They went off the rails as soon as they became obsessed with the kinect, that was the beginning of the "lets focus on literally anything but good games" paradigm that they refused to deviate from that brought them to this point.
>>722598512Literally happened just a couple months ago.The reason the Game Pass price is increasing is because they are making it a service for both the PC hybrid systems and consoles, rather than have a single tier for PC (Gamepass for PC) which has too many features and costs too little. Their plan is to have one Game Pass with three tiers and multiple devices, whether that's your smart fridge with wifi, living room console or an overpriced handheld PC.
>>722598353The future is phones with a bluetooth controller. So software is where the money is.
>>722598653Yep that was mid 360 wasnt it? And start of xbone gen with the whole tv tv tv talk to kinnect to change game to tv etc. Xbox one was so bad game wise and hardware wise.
>>722598324I want to get a SeX upgrading from a Bone X for backwards compatibility and the occasional AAA slop that has denuvo but I'm worried Microshart will pull off some kike move, kill or limit backcompat, kill the used game market with activation codes, or just abruptly drop support in a year or two.
>>722598718That won't happen in the next 10 years.
>>72259897610 years? Nigga you forget that only old losers like you and me play on PC or console, little kids play fucking Fortnite on their phones and tablets, the industry is shifting hard, i genuinely believe that GTA 6 will be the last big game we get, and i don't even like GTA
>>722598353Hey remember when xbox publicly celebrated tango game works for their successful game hi fi rush and like a month later microsoft shut the company down? Remember when they were going to fix redfall with updates and save the game and then microsoft killed it? Remember when phil said a bunch of games were being developed and then microsoft canceled them all one by one? You know like the 50 separate times that happened between launch of the xbone and today? Oh but you're right, the people in the xbox division who have consistently been publicly cucked by the higher ups at microsoft at every turn will definitely not have that same exact thing happen again when the next shareholder meeting shows their division is yet again bleeding money. It'll be different this time for sure.
>>722598976Ye it will be within 5. S20s can play good games and theyre cheap as.
they will put ads in gamesi hope they go bankrupt and let all the devs go elsewhere
>>722598867The jump from bone x to series x is noticable if you game at 120. The xbox back compat isnt that much better, it is but depends if the devs updated it etc as alot of the forced xbox shit doesnt make much difference if I remember. It is a way better machine for all current and bone gen games. Same as loading. Xbonex is so slow.
>>722598848>Yep that was mid 360 wasnt it?Yep, the kinect retardation was what led to the xbone disaster which then led them to thinking "you know xbox needs? better hardware" which led to the obsession with having a powerful console. Then MS's general obsession with subscriptions ala office 365 and cloud services was pushed to xbox which lead them to switching the focus to gamepass. It was one retarded idea after another.
>do something>losesWoooooowwww
>>722597048It's there way of a punishing for the pushbsck, lol. Too bad anyone who cares is long gone
>>722598718>The future is phonesIve been hearing this for fifteen years now and all thats happened is shit adhd mtx games have come out on them.
>>722600064>shit adhd mtx games have come out on them.No one tell this nigga what are the most popular games in consoles
>>722598353Microsoft is going to walk away from its contract with amd because someone on the internet said it. Duh.
>>722600064The chips started from s20 series onwards that make games pretty good on phones. The next 5 years will be pretty big leap when they focus on it more like chink and korean markets.
>>722600171>when I said gaming I meant slopI'll have you know the future of water is being wet.
Gamers are bottom tier tards who buy broken products, pay to beta test products, buy unfinished products. They are a joke customer base who will buy and play anything if thats all they have.
>>722599262Shutting down/selling bad performing studios is a different thing than giving up completely. Wouldn't expect you to understand it.
>>722600602Nta, but does it matter? Xbox has literally nothing, hell, it may as well be dead, who in their right mind says "Boy i sure can't wait for Halo CE anniversary2!"
>>722594617>fights FTC>buys activision>puts activision titles like black ops on gamepass>complains they lost too much money putting black ops on gamepass>jacks up prices and tells the customers they need just a small price increase of 50%>gives you ubisoft's failing game catalogue to compensatehow is this company still going? if jew gates hadn't ripped off of apple, this garbage company wouldn't have had a chance.
>>722597048It's not worse, you now get the discount as bonus reward points that you can spend in a bunch of other cool stuff and not only in games
>>722599179Why did Nintendo release Switch 2 then? Why is Sony making a PS6? These consoles are made to last up to 10 years. Microsoft is just doing what they usually do, trying to harass their competitors in multiple fields simultaneously: Fighting with GFN and Luna with xCloud, Steam Deck with Xbox brand handhelds, PS5 with Xboxes, Game Pass also competes with Humble Monthly. They don't need to be #1 or #2 as long as they're there.
>>722594617Okay we'll raise prices again
>>722600751Maybe it doesn't matter.
>>722600948Because Nintendo and Sony are way more successful than xbox duh, they can afford to last longer, but Sony is more open to PC than ever before and Nintendo is Nintendo, they literally sold carton
>>722601190How does that support the argument that phones will be the main platform for these companies in less than 10 years?
>>722600602>theres definitely gonna be a next gen xbox, you just don't understandYeah I don't understand how a console that flopped to the point its getting pulled off store shelves and got two price hikes is getting another even more expensive next gen console especially from a company that constantly cancels projects to save money.I was expecting an explanation for how that works but I guess its just too esoteric and complex to explain and totally isn't because your claims are so retarded they cant be backed up at all.
>>7225946173 trillon games and still can't be savedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0POIBSWnq_E>YOU HOPE HATRED MIGHT SOMEDAY REPLACE THE PAINBUT IT NEVER GOES AWAY
>>722601305>he doesn't knowOhnonono
>>722594617Xbox is a dead brand, let it go.
>>722601331So you choose to believe the rumor that there won't be another console instead of choosing to believe the rumor that their next-gen console is arriving early. That's up to you.
>>722594617OG Xbox Classic when?Like, imagine a small Xbox...???
I didnt study business so correct me if im wrong, the majority of gamepass users are on xbox. If they do not commit to a console next generation, there will be people transitioning to playstation and thus losing gamepass subscribers. How would this be a good business decision? I think theyre overestimating how many people will pay for gamepass without being on xbox
>>722595274>This is an Xbox you can put some food in
>>722601190Playstation is only a couple of generations away from going the xbox route I feel. They aren't getting younger generations into their bubble anymore.Nintendo may or may not survive the phone pc prophecy, but they have the best chance.
>>722600790>buys activisionThis was actually smart because its going to make them a ton of money and the vast majority of the revenue from that has nothing to do with xbox which is a black hole.
>>722601462>you choose to believe that microsoft will save billions not making another flop consoleYes.
>>722601796They'll probably make some kind of hardware, but the line between console and pc will be blurred even further. It won't be supported like a traditional console, it will just be a specialized pc for normies perhaps.Eventually everybody will be playing on PC or their phone and gamepass might still exist fine in that endgame anyway. And Nintendo will keep doing their thing somewhere else
>>722601796Making consoles, marketing etc costs a ton of money. Microsoft losing a few billions is like whatever. Investing billions to buy the biggest companies that they could? And gamepass not hitting any targets? Foot comes down and they're cleaning house. >I think theyre overestimating how many people will pay for gamepass without being on xboxThe point is to squeeze everyone who's left, just like Sony kept increasing prices.
>>722600946Hi Jez.
>>722600946The discounts on games are higher than the points you'd get.
>>722602045They are
>>722602045>Nintendo may or may not survive the phone pc prophecy, but they have the best chance.Their survival as a console maker is tied to the tendie demographic who they can squeeze every last penny out of without any backlash, once they're gone they'll be forced to go third party.
>>722600946Yes! One more year of Office 365. I might even expand my OneDrive storage too!Goddamn they deliver over and over.
>>722602506Source? Switch 1 sold 153 million. They're market leader now so it's Playstation that's stuck with a weird box that can't compete vs PC.
>>722602636https://thred.com/tech/study-shows-gen-z-arent-paying-for-games-anymore/Younger people are not buying or paying for games. It's all millennials and older zoomers.
>>722602636>switch 1 sales are indicative of what switch 2 will sellSource?
>>722594896Unironically their only hope is better backwards compatability. They have a lot of good games in their old library that most people who own a series whatever probably haven't played.
>>722602878Sony defenders still act like ps2 sales are still relevant to this gen potential sales.Switch 1 sales are the best statistic we have for guessing switch 2 sales. It doesnt mean we know the answer it means we can make an educated guess.
>>722603000Too bad they moved away from disc drives, are actively harming the purchasing of games with the removal of game pass discount, and not making games more readily available such as OG Xbox games on the store.Yeah it's cool that you can play every gen of Xbox game on a Series X but M$ doesn't want you to, they only want you playing newslop.
Just two more weeks.
>>722594617Nah, let them fade into obscurity. It'd be 10 years overdue if it happened yesterday.
>>722594617>this is not an xbox>gears is on playstation now>Halo can't even deliver basic multiplayer content and when it does its fan made recycled forge slop>also can't patch in local co-op, something we promised for 1year+ and random people can glitch on their own>"great games don't sell consoles">announces brand new IPs and revivals but cancels more than half of them>closes more studios>we are overcharging for the only service people buy us for
>>722594617They are doing something, they're killing the Xbox
>>722603000>backwards compatabilityIf they put a 360 emulator that can read games off an external drive on their presumably overpriced future branded pc I'd actually cough up the dough for it.>>722603101>sony defenders PS2Relevance? The PS3 sold way less and PS4 was practically a monopoly due to microsoft stillbirthing the xbone and doing nothing to recover.>the switch is indicative of salesWas the wii indicative of wii u sales? No it wasn't. Switch 1 was an affordable home console that doubled as a handheld successor to the 3DS and had a shit ton of third party games when the economy wasn't complete shit. For the average person theres not a whole lot of justification to buy a switch 2.
>>722594617Dying is something
>>722594617
>>722604232>tfw never bought an Xbox in my life
>>722604397>For the average person theres not a whole lot of justification to buy a switch 2.Yet
>>722595274Its amazing how they arent even trying anymore, its like seeing a car collision that doesnt stop, like a lolcow with billions of dollars
>>722604609>YetTime will tell.
>>722599765this.
>>722594617Expect gamepass to be on PlayStation 5 and Switch 2 (via xcloud) very soonOr not because they may want to prioritize their 30% platform fees, who knows
>>722604509You missed out.OG xbox was unironically cool and the 360 up until the kinect days were great.I dont regret owning either and would choose them again if given the choice.
>>722605490Based, I grew up with both consoles as a kid (with nintendo consoles on the side) gave me many years of fun. The ol Xbox One meanwhile I barely touched but I've been recently playing it again to finish borderlands 2.
>>722605187Nintendo and Sony doesn't want, all leaks are showing Microsoft is pushing Game Pass into the cloud with the goal to eventually kill it. You Game Pass shills are embarrassing, please give up on Xbox, they're dead and cancer.
>>722606012*it
>>722606012I've already given up on xbox, never bought a series console. I wanted to try gamepass for pc but with the price increase I no longer want to.
“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and, in certain cases, have very discrete focus on doing deals and other things make being on Xbox hard as a team - that’s on us, not on anybody else - our vision is that everybody that’s on console has to feel like they have a great experience and they’re a first class citizen. They’ve invested a ton in our platform. But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way. We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generation when everybody built their digital library of games.I see a lot of pundits out there that kinda want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole share. That’s just not the world that we are in today. There’s no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That’s not gonna happen.” - Phil Spencer (Head of Microsoft Xbox Gaming, 10 years tenure)
>>722606230>I wanted to try gamepass for pcWhy didn't you when it was cheaper then?It was like $5 for years
List of failures in the modern game industry by dump it money loss impact zone.>2010s-Ouya-Wii U-PS Vita (Sony now exited handhelds)-Playstation Now/Gaikai/OnLive-Google Stadia-Playstation VR-Steam Machines-Steam VR-Whatever the Nintendo cardboard VR thing was>2020s-Concord (2nd largest commercial flop in video game history next to Atari E.T.)-Perfect Dark Reboot/Microsoft first "AAAA" The Initiative studio closes with it after 7 years with nothing to show-Steam Deck-Xbox Series X and S/Microsoft Xbox brand in general post acquisitions spree have shuttered more game dev jobs than what the game industry was in the 1980s during its Atari self-destruction-Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League-Honorary and token spot for SEGA live service game Hyenas getting shuttered, literally just "dump it and wash your hands off". Respect.
>>722594617ok, price increase to $50/month.happy now OP?
>>722606012>all leaks are showing Microsoft is pushing Game Pass into the cloudI swear its like you can predict microsofts every move by asking the question: how can they fuck it up more? I can't think of any decision from roughly 2010 onwards in regards to xbox that wouldn't be a good a solid answer to that question save for their backwards compatibility program.
>>722606564why stop there, how about $60?
>>722606304I was either distracted with life or other games. Metaphor and Expedition 33 were the games that got me interested in it in the first place. My PC is kinda old and doesn't run the absolute newest stuff.$20 xCloud gamepass on Switch 2 would've been orgasmic and a big motivation for me to buy the console. One device with basically everything on it
>>722600946very cool
Bubble was going to burst at some pointGP cannibalizes on last gen/old new gen games and it gives great value, but it also generates a huge backlog for everyone. Who the fuck wants to buy a fully priced new (probably mediocre) game when you have years upon years of good games? No amount of day 1 releases will make up for that, and it's especially self destructive when these games cost $300M to make
>>722606745I knew Xbox was fucked when Game Pass became the Xbox starting with 9th generation. I had a feeling it was going to kill Xbox, and I was right. Phil being a complete retard and blowing all of their case on monopolizing the game industry didn't help. I knew it was time to drop out when they killed the first party handheld for OEM ones. That was the last thing holding me to an Xbox after the multiplatform announcement. It's better to just stick with Nintendo and PC because I know PlayStation is next since they seem to be going in the same direction, this is where it starts. Reminder that Sega was also denying that they were killing the Dreamcast when rumors of their games showing up on Nintendo's, Sony's, and Microsoft's platforms came up.
>>722606768I don't think $70 will be accepted, why the fuck would you even try to make them pay $80??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW3irWQt5z0
>>722606768I can't wait to see what they do with their published games after they kill gamepass and xbox. I fully expect them to push $100+ games and then when they don't sell layoff all the devs.>>722607291What’s funny about the actiblizz acquisition is that it was tied to xbox when they were already committed to publishing games on sony's console and the main reason they bought it was for the mobile game revenue. Its like they used that as an excuse to further rape xbox. "Well you see we bought actiblizz so we passed that off as a loss to xbox which now has to suffer for it even though actiblizz is going to make us a shit ton of money." It fits the pattern of the jeet ceo and amy hood deliberately setting up the excuse to kill xbox. At first I thought they were playing the long game, hold out until the COD FTC exclusivity rule ended to make all those IPs xbox exclusive and in the meantime recoup costs selling multiplat games. You know launch another xbox when that rule ended and pull all those back to force everyone to get an xbox to play those games after they got invested playing them for years. But no, it makes sense now to just kill xbox and print money off publishing the actiblizz IPs but there's no reason to assume the fuck up pattern will cease with, they'll figure out a way to fuck that up next. But yeah, the gamepass focus killed whatever life was left in xbox. Also they were extremely retarded to buy bethesda long after they peaked at such a ridiculous price and think they'd produce killer apps but thats been a pattern since the beginning when they bought rare. That's definitely a phil fuck up because that's purely in the realm of xbox unlike the actiblizz acquisition.
Explain why should I care about mistakes of spoiled rich paedofile enablers OP?
>>722607172A Backlog itself saves you more money than ShitPass Rent.
>>722594617OHNONONONONONONO
>>722595274well, can't argue with that business decision. fans always get more loyal when you don't use something to shackle them to your inferior services
>>722595917if a consolefag cared about hardware they would be using a PC
>>722594617they "tried" but every attempt was half assed while they still charged full MSRP or tried to nickel and dime through mtx. a shame since their hardware was better than the ps5. goes to show you that all the money in the world is meaningless if you lack a vision and passion.
>>722594617They're just going to be a publisher.
>>722609015That jeet is known for doing that and always lies that he won't do it, Microsoft Gaming is about to just be franchises that make money, we'll be lucky to ever see another new ip, or ip, or franchise spin-offs ever again. If it won't make money to Microsoft, it's dead in the water, if it costs too much money, it's dead in the water. Xbox nuked itself by being an accelerated PlayStation. It went through 3 PlayStations in two generations and then went beyond them due to Microsoft's short-term gain, long-term pain mindset. This will come for Sony but several years later. Xbox speed ran its own death.
>>722610135>from SneakerSO
>>722610365okay 54 year old PC vegan, have fun with $800 GPU and those amazing UE5 sloppy seconds ports that *SHADERS COMPILING ETA 10 MINUTES, BLUE SCREEN ERROR INTEL CPU OXIDIZED*
he knew
>>722595917>muh stronkest console evar Shame that Microsoft mandates that all games have to perform just as well as the weaker Series S
>>722611098That authentic Discord leak also wasn't real bro just close your eyes - Xbox 3rd wordlie defense force
>>722610741 >>722594617There's only one toe that's willing to dip into Elder Scrolls 6, but after pretty much giving up on Bethesda, I can confidently give up on Microsoft Publisher as a whole. I'm curious if they'll even do well as a 3rd party or if audiences will completely ignore them as much as I would
>>722611098https://x.com/ymnis_v1/status/1975166106789650779He also was the one to break that Blizzard's or Bethesda's MMO was shitcanned. It's over man, Xbox is dead
Fun fact Elder Scrolls 6 and Fable reboot have been in development for as long as Perfect Dark reboot (cancelled).
>>722611279are you still trying to force that?
>>722611404Given that they and Sony are still inclusive in a post-woke world, I believe they're honestly fucked.
>>722611627>triggeredCalm down PC Valve Vegan. Go make a piracy thread bragging about playing old console games on your outdated 12 year old GTX 1050 Ti Pleddit PC.
Microsoft is not falling, is winning actually and Microsoft Rewards is a proof I just redeem Ultimate 1 month.
>>722602045Nintendo won't ever go away because they actively target young children to turn them into loyal consumers from birth through their parents who also got introduced to Nintendo at a young age by their parents who were buying them the hottest toys for Christmas.Just look at all the stuff Pokemon shits out. They're trying to turn you into a lifelong consumer the second you're out the womb.
>>722611905Do not redeem Saar!
>>722611835>Calm downIronic.
>>722610135>credible rumorsWe must have better rumors
>>722612034So that's where TPC invests all their capital, because it sure as fuck ain't been their games division.
>>722612034Hard for me to weigh in since I'm not really a Nintendo fan nor do I follow the biz that closely. But my instinct tell me that if any gaming company has the potential to become a media empire like Disney it would be Nintendo (decades from now) for pretty much the reasons you stated.
>>722603407>revenueFunniest joke ever told.
>>722611546Phil doesnt even know what they're doing
>>722601502They better keep the OG controllers the same size
>>722601796>I didnt study business so correct me if im wrong, the majority of gamepass users are on xbox. If they do not commit to a console next generation, there will be people transitioning to playstation and thus losing gamepass subscribers.Literally me.
>>722610627Basically have been for years now. I don't understand anyone who is lamenting the loss of Xbox. I guess anyone stupid enough to stick with it these last 2 gens?
>>722596748Be gay trannie somewhere else please. People jsut want good games, and not ones that carry "social messages." >>722614384Every system has its fanboys.
Die, consoles. Die!
>>722614880Thee console, thee.
