this is why we need digital ID

>>722603689
>I pay for my games, so should you. Its only fair.
You have access to the same free games that I do, that you decide to waste your money on them anyway isn't an issue of fairness, its just you being a retard.

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I have a 9800x3d and a 5080, my salary is way above the average, and I pirate every single videogame I can

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I spend hundreds of dollars on gacha games but pirate everything else, if the argument is that you should spend money to support developers then I'll only support developers that I want to support and all the other ones can die for all I care

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>go on /co/
>"hey I pirated these comics/cartoons
>"cool"
>go on /tv/
>"hey I pirated these shows/movies"
>"cool"
>go on /sp/
>"hey I pirated this sports ball match game"
>"cool"
>go on /v/
>"hey I pirated these games"
>"HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE LITERALLY GENOCIDING THESE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS OH MY FUCKING GOD STOOOOOOOOOP MY GIRL HOLE IS LEAKING AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>722603621
How are you supposed to afford a GPU if you're blowing money on games?

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I pirate most games on PC because developers can't bother to fix their games so it feels even if you're only spending $20 you're wasting your money

>napster-era piracy changed music industry for-the-better
>current-era piracy changing movie/tv industry for-the-better
it will do the same for vidya

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>>722603621
well akshually i just got shadps4 bloodborne

>>722603621
I buy all of my games, assuming that they are being sold in a way that does not require me to jump through a bunch of hoops.

>>722603621
I pirate most of my games and I'm very happy about it.

We need to round up Redditors and put them in some sort of institution where they have no contact with the outside world

>>722603621
most of those pirated games run better than the og

>>722604652
Piracy in the music and TV industries played a huge role in the rise of streaming services. Pirating games will also ultimately lead to gaming becoming a service, rather than a product that you own.

>>722603621
>>722603689
Oh yeah, I'm stealing so much money on this game made literally 30 years ago
How's this logic apply to freeware, by the way?

>>722603621
>PS5
>piracy
Huh?

Plebbit fags always looking to attack somebody. What else is new? Most miserable sacks of shit out there just looking for the nearest outlet for their anger issues.

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>>722603621
>I hope you’re not

Your hope is lost them anon.

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>>722605328
It's not logic.
It's just a talking point corporations made up and bootlickers just parrot it non-stop.

>>722605539
>miserable sacks of shit out there just looking for the nearest outlet for their anger issues
Bingo. If you've ever met anybody who uses it a lot, they do this because they're docile, pathetic pieces of shit in real life and reddit is the only place they won't get mocked or beaten into silence.

>>722603621
I pirate almost everything I can and if I actually like the game then I turn into a violent shill for it and get other people to buy it instead
t. got 3 people to buy I Am Your Beast during this last steam sale

>>722603621
Piracy is a service problem, since most purchases will be made at the most convenient and most frequented location, failing to sell your service at that location is the only way to actually lose customers.
Ultimately piracy only has positive effects for good games, provided by good services with good track records, whereas companies that blame piracy would be failing even if piracy wasn't an option.
>>722604652
Nah, both the movie and music industries have made the enforcement of copyright so bad that nothing can save the modern media industry other than the complete unrecoverable collapse of every major publisher and the complete dissolution of their assets into the public domain, the DMCA was the last straw.

>>722603621
I pirated a certain game recently, after getting halfway through I bought it since I was so pleased with it and the developer was just a AA studio

>>722605320
>>722605320
>Piracy in the music and TV industries played a huge role in the rise of streaming services.
And neither of these are a bad thing, because music and films are completely linear and can be ripped for private use with minimum loss of quality. The thing that makes games different is that they're software. If they have to dial home constantly, they're on borrowed time and there's literally nothing you can do about it.

I'm a pirate, and lets get it out of the way, we are the wrong ones morally regardless of the game company being bad or the game "not being worth the price" or whatever moral justification we come up.
However we should NOT promote piracy for the simple reason that we can only enjoy it because the majority of people pay for games. If we pirates become the majority there wont be more games for us to download.

>>722603621
if i know i will like the game i will buy but not at release and not at full price

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I don't buy games. I don't buy manga and (lol) comics. I don't buy books. I don't pay any subs for series. I don't go to the theaters. I don't buy music. If I can get it for free, why not?

>>722603689
I'm not buying Super Mario Galaxy 1+2 for $70.

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>>722603903
This, but unironically. There was a Chad anon the other day on /tv/ who was sharing 35mm version of old classic movies like Alien. Im pretty sure its tendies who are so vocally against piracy. Also
>Complaining about piracy on 4chen when there is a dedicated board for sharing pirated material via torrent

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>>722603689

>have a 9950x3d and 4090
>ps4 hack gets released
>buy a 100 dollar ps4
>pirate witch and the hundred knight 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

Sometimes i pirate sometimes i dont
Depends on the mood

>>722603689
>I pay for my games
But you don't have to, you choose to do that.

I only pirate games that are like a decade old

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>>722603621
I pirate any games i cant get a physical version of. I'm not paying for air.

>>722606117
>Im pretty sure its tendies
It's not just them, it's all the brand loyalty ridden zombies. Sonyshit, Fromshit, Ubishit, Valveshit, it's all the same, well, shit. In an ideal world corpos wouldn't be allowed to put their logo on a product.

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>>722603621
>He doesn't pirate his hardware
Lmao, what a cuck.

>>722605964
I'm not surprised Nagatoro is a thief but she shouldn't be surprised when the big titty friends steals her boyfriend

>>722606316
>I'm not paying for air.
>pays environmental tax
Hypocrite.

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>>722603621
>Turn on computer
>Open torrenting software
>Do nothing while I commit economic terrorism and maje companies lose trillions of dollars

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>>722606420
All tax is theft.

>>722605918
Streaming services lead to music/TV becoming streamlined garbage. Every game will be the equivalent of "binge-worthy" Netflix slop that will keep you busy for a week at most. This is the future you wanted.

>>722606567
>Streaming services lead to music/TV becoming streamlined garbage.
That's just the internet at large allowing things to separate into their own min-maxxed bubbles. Even if it didn't happen to music and TV, it would have happened to video games.

>>722603689
People who pirate video games should have their clone sent to jail. It's only fair

>>722606321
Pcbros are the worst imo. Imagine being a supposed "pc gaymer", but absolutely strict on the specific, corporate mandated data hole you get your software from, on a huge, vast platform that is built around being open.

>>722603903
>go on /v/
>hey i paid for this game
>"YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH THIS INDUSTRY YOU'RE GENOCIDING VIDEO GAMES WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT A CORPORATION AAAAAAAAAH MY GIRL HOLE IS LEAKING AAAIIIEEEEEE"
etc

I only pirate old games from previous gens as they are easy to emulate.

>>722604652
we're already seeing the result with all the f2p games. they'll let you play for free but you can't pirate the good stuff and gotta fork over the cash for it.

>>722606868
Wtf, is valve-fags a censored term now? Because that was definitely what i typed.

I have no justifications for piracy. I just do it. I really don't give a single fuck about morals, ethics, any of that. I simply do not want to pay for games.

I did pay for Silksong, though.

I pirate indieslop and pay full price for AAAkino
Just kidding, I pirate AAAslop too and don't even play it

I pirate to demo games and sometimes I buy them.
I also pirate if a game doesn't particularly interest me or I don't want to support the devs, but I want to participate in the conversation.
Like how I pirated SH f, but bought Silksong this past month.

If piracy is theft, then what is Family Sharing?

>>722607623
Privateering

>>722607623
borrowing from your bro

>>722605225
That already happened, it's called reddit

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>>722603621
I buy all my games. Unless the game is simply unavailable through legitimate means. Or if it's only available in some wildly exploitative way. (Nintendo)

no to video game piracy.
>>722603872
same desu

>>722603804
Nigger brained.

>>722603872
>He wants to support gachaslop
This is unironically even worse than people who think pirating Nintendo means you're "bigoted against the poor defenseless multibilliondollar corporation" (i.e the redditors in OP's image)

>>722607623
Family sharing has limits. You can't family share to millions of people.

i pay for multiplayer games i play with friends, i pirate singleplayer games that are weird and treat it as a timeless demo. i pay for singleplayer games that look interesting. simple as.

why are zoomers so anti piracy? have they been brainwashed?

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vanilla 4080 here
if your game is really good, if your studio is free from stupid woke drama and i can buy the whole thing (deluxe edition content + DLCs incl.) for no more than 70 dollars, i will buy your game

had lots of fun with Cronos recently but the devs regrettably decided to put weird gender neutral bathroom signs in their game set in 1981 Poland, so i uninstalled the game as soon as i was finished and removed it from my wishlist

>>722608353
I have a firmly held religious belief that all the world is my family. Don't oppress me.

>>722608449
No, not all zoomers are that cringe.
I'm a zoomer and I'm anti anti piracy. I pirate just to spite corporate bootlickers since they think corporations are a protected minority in some delusional way

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>>722603621
fuck them and fuck you

I'm just built different.
>Replay the same few cool games over and over.
>Pirate indies about twice a year.
>Buy proper games on the rare occasion frens want to play multi(this happens far less often than once a year)

>>722608449
Maybe they don't know how to do it. I hear zoomers are pretty hopeless with technology.

>>722603621
I have a ~$6000 PC setup with numerous luxury items (5090 FE, bougie soundcard, three top-end monitors, etc.) I pirate every videogame that can be pirated. For multiplayer games I wait till they're on sale. The money I save goes into my house fund - probably next year I'll be able to buy a house lump-sum if I desire.

Zoomers' spending habits are one of the primary reasons they can't buy a home.

>>722608640
So they just dont want you to own things even if its directly beneficial to them?
Deepskitzo but could it also be elites seething about the inability to completely control information thus context?
Like the reason slop gets astroturfed is clearly to supress dangerous worldviews and make some cash on the side. I wonder if they're actually that mad about people having souls.

>>722608640
But ever since Denushit solved piracy, AAA games have all sold gazilions of extra copies.

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This >>722603827 but I pay for every game cause I want to support devs who make thinks I like

>>722608841
The EU pretty openly admits that they loathe the fact people can use the internet anonymously, communicate unsurveilled and access information that the EU hasn't given its blessing to prior to you accessing it.
Internet ID was going to be von der Leyen's big thing that she was supposed to push before the war broke out so we got a few years of reprieve.

>>722603621
The redditor's argument is weak. You need to buy a graphics card in order to play games but you don't need to buy games in order to play them.

>>722608640
stop killing games guys be like
>hell yeah these people will help us!

>Upgraded PC last winter
>didn't mean to buy top of the line
>basically got just short of it, realized later
>bought Abiotic, Balatro, Cloverpit, Dwarf Fort
>have close to a terabyte of games I've torrented in that span of time
>haven't even tried most of them

if the state feels entitled to take more than half of my income to appease browns and axewounds
I'm entitled to take videogames
it's a tough job but someone's got to do it
otherwise, how could the state conceivably give "employment" to those browns and axewounds if they can't be paid cents for each post complaining very loudly about what I'm doing?

>>722609010
>Denushit
>Wait a month or two tops for any game worth a shit
>runs better than if I had paid for it

>>722608753
You spend $6000 on a computer which is barely more effective than a $1500 computer yet you criticise the spending habits of zoomers lol
Unless you are a 3D modeller you are just as retarded

>>722609970
>You spend $6000 on a computer which is barely more effective than a $1500 computer
you're technologically inept and, odds are, brown

>>722610036
Not that anon but strictly for gaming AMD's best consumer 4 core isn't that far off from their best consumer AI specialized CPU and if you value temps and energy efficiency the 4 core has both dominated.

>>722609796
this is the reason i refused to sign
as an EU subject, the only law i'd support the EU enacting is the one where it abolishes itself
inb4 >Ivan from Madrid oblast
yeah nah fuck you

>>722609970
Maybe if you play on a single 1080p monitor. You are absolutely not going to get the same performance on that kind of setup using a 5070 or whatever equivalent parts would equal 25% of what he spent.

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>>722603621
>piracy is bad

>>722603621
These are the people who call themselves anti capitalist

>>722610186
>AMD's best consumer 4 core
>4 core
The fuck kind of garbage laptop cpu are you making comparisons with?

>>722607954
jej

>>722610186
>t. time traveller

>>722603621
No.

Am I expected to buy another Game Boy if I wanna replay Pokeymen Red?

>>722603621
They know you pirate and never enforce it. Why? Because you receiving the "message" is the important part. Money is just a benefit.

People want to talk about games not stealing them
No one cares you download free games off the internet and wouldn't even know if you weren't constantly bragging about it looking for a pat on the back

>>722609928
>>Wait a month or two tops
Anon, I...

>>722603903
It's trolls. See shit like

>>722603752
>>722603689


Whats shitty about it is that retards actually believe these posts as genuine.

>>722611332
the enforcement is on the way. Internet IDs are getting pushed everywhere and that's going to curb a lot of "undesirable" behavior

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>>722603621

>>722610449
>>>722611687
>>722608016
>>722607151
>>722606492
>>722606468
Denuvo won, tho.
By buying out every single person capable of breaking it, games just never get pirated.
Very soon only the poorest vidya companies that can't afford Denuvo won't be using it.

>>722612597
The only way Denuvo will win is if every single game, including indie games, has it. I don't have enough time in the day to get through the games without Denuvo.

>>722610306
You can still achieve the same performance for 75% of the price at most. He overpaid $2000-$3000 to play the one or two decent games with ray tracing at 4k60fps. It only makes sense to buy a $6000 machine for 3D rendering and modelling

>>722613232
seethe more, poorfag

>>722612597
won what? if it's not cracked or f2p idk it

>>722603621
>if you spent a lot of money on something that's impossible to pirate you should be okay spending money on stuff that's possible to pirate
What kind of idiot logic is that?

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>>722603689
If buying isn't owning, then emulating isn't stealing.

>>722604780
I just wish they'd get Fist of the North Star running on it already, it's literally the only game I want to play on a PS4

>>722603621
>>722603689
Nobody cares. Just proudly say that you pirated instead of calling it games preservation or any virtue signaling bullshit.

i gave all my gaming money to jensen to get a 4090 so blame him

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>go on /co/
>"hey I pirated these comics/cartoons
>"cool"
>go on /tv/
>"hey I pirated these shows/movies"
>"cool"
>go on /sp/
>"hey I pirated this sports ball match game"
>"cool"
>go on /v/
>"hey I pirated these games"
>"I WANT TO FUCK THIS CARTOON CHARACTER I MASTURBATE TO CARTOONS OH GOD THIS CHARACTER IS SO HOT I WANT TO FUCK HER SEXO SEXO KAWAII GIRL FUCK MASTURBATE CUM ON THE CHARACTER CUM CUM SEX I LOVE DOGS YES FURRY SEX YES YES"

>>722606868
People prefer Steam because it's better than whatever some major publisher is currently trying to force on people.
Plebs are just mad because the PC audience says "no" every once in a while, which is a hate crime in console spaces. Hint: that's why you are paying for online and PC friends aren't.

>>722603621
Pirating implies that they are worth the price and the time in the first place.

"You're broke", brought to you by the generation who will never be able to afford a house.

>>722603903
>>722603621
Because /v/ has the most overlap with the people you see in the screencap

>>722603689
I'm legally allowed to retain a digital copy of any product I've purchased, this extends to any media including books, movies, music, and games.

>>722603689
I rarely pirate, but how does it hurt the industry if I emulate a game that could only be bought second-hand?

>>722618921
buy the remake

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>>722603689
I pirate games, play them, and then buy them when they are on sale. If they don't ever make it on sale to 20 bucks then I wasn't going to buy it anyways. I don't see how Devs value their games at 60 now 70 or even 80. If they keep their games at those prices they weren't going to get a sale from me anyways.

>>722603621
I don't steal revenue from game devs.
I just pirate 100% of media I consume without ever buying anything so they have no potential loss.

>>722603903
>>go on /v/
>>"hey I pirated these games"
>>"HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE LITERALLY GENOCIDING THESE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS OH MY FUCKING GOD STOOOOOOOOOP MY GIRL HOLE IS LEAKING AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
/a/ is also guilty of this BTW.

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>>722603621
>>722603689
get fucked kike

>>722619014
What if the game was based on a licensed IP or the studio that made it is now so defunct that a remake or remaster will absolutely not happen?

>>722620531
No it isn't

>>722603903
/v/ is normalfag central

>>722620817
buy the spiritual successor

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What did Gaben mean when he said this?

>>722605747
Same. Most games I buy these days I only buy after I pirate it and realize it was a game good enough to be worth spending money on

>>722608617
Leftists generally aren't oppressed despite being psychos who unironically view things that way. Just go be one of them

I've been pirating games for nearly 30 years. I started with psx. We had a PC with a CD burner and my uncle modded my system for me. My parents would take me to blockbuster/Hollywood video every Friday and we'd rent 2 games . Id burn them if I liked them.
I learned how to torrent by downloading Dreamcast games. I had a DVD burner and a magic swap for ps2 and eventually a fat soft modded console, Ps3 with CFW, modded 360, PSP, and NDS with a flash cart. All while the consoles were still active, not to mention PC pirating since like shogun total war and regular ol emulating
I've probably paid for like 10 games over the last 30 years and have played hundreds .

>>722612597
I don't care for new games anyhow.

>>722603903
/v/ trannies are UNABLE to handle this argument
they will pirate tv shows and seethe at you for pirating their ninty slop

>>722603621
make more demos

>>722608640
>removed the study because it was just pure bullshit
fix'd that for you

>>722622885
i personally only pay for games i very much like or want to support the devs
got burned by indies twice and always pirate to test beforehand now
piracy saves me a lot of money by simply trying and deinstalling shit after 1-2h of playtime, latest was lies of pi i couldnt even be arsed to start up again after one session

>>722603689
>emulate
LOL this guy can't afford a wii U for 60$

>>722615174
KEK

>>722603903
>"hey I pirated these nintendo games"
>"HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE LITERALLY GENOCIDING THESE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS OH MY FUCKING GOD STOOOOOOOOOP MY GIRL HOLE IS LEAKING AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
FTFY

>>722616283
There isn't a viable alternative to Steam and the services it provides unfortunately. Steam is to modern gaming as Wangblows is to operating systems.

Everyone saw the writing on the wall when that fucking gook forced Steam as a mandatory requirement for Counterstrike; even more so when games stopped being physical even when you bought the box as you'd be given a CD-Key to input into Steam. And anyone with a brain wanted Valve to plagiarize all the features X-Fire had and to improve on them -- which is exactly what they did.

>>722612597
That's more due to zoomers not knowing how torrents work

>>722624890
I honestly can't remember seeing a game and being so desperate to play it that I would pirate it.

>>722603621
I exclusively support game developers that I support. Bodytype a/b? No buy. Black people? No buy. Woke languages like Spanish? No buy. Someone has a meltdown on twitter and it's not about the jews? No buy. Hate the Jews but it's because of muh muslims? No buy.

>>722625213
Here I can't remember ever wanting to play a game that uses denuvo

>>722625493
My point being that the quality of games has degraded to the point where I would say its not worth pirating.

I pirate because I'm broke.

>>722625884
Mostly true, however for many good games made in the past it is the only way to get them.

>>722619014
No, I will not buy skyrimg again, Todd.

>>722626691
You will buy it again and the other versions they release after that and you will love it
Now get to work on the mods that will fix their broken ass games

>>722603621
>affort
sympathy chance revoked

>>722603689
Developers hurt the industry with their low quality games and shitty practices. Piracy is a natural reaction.

>>722603903
It's literally just tendies who behave this way. They're the only one left with this cult like devotion to video game companies

also playing video games yourself is the same as stealing from content creators

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>>722603621

I refuse to tip, vote, pay for vidya or eat pussy.

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I only pirate games if the publisher deserves it

>>722603621
The fearmongering and paralysis around emulation (especially in Zillennials and younger) is one of the most diabolical things Nintendo has accomplished (and make no mistake, they absolutely astroturfed it the most by far).

>>722628394
the reason you're so poor that you can't tip is because you go out to eat

>>722606117
>This, but unironically. There was a Chad anon the other day on /tv/ who was sharing 35mm version of old classic movies like Alien. Im pretty sure its tendies who are so vocally against piracy. Also
>Complaining about piracy on 4chen when there is a dedicated board for sharing pirated material via torrent
You're a retard. It's all paid jeet shills. No if and or butts

>worrying what morally preening faggots say
>their clothes and iphone were made in third world sweat shops with worse conditions than slave labor

>>722628781
Ask your boss to tip you.

>>722629386
We tip them. We split with everyone in the restaurant. By not tipping you're depriving the tips they receive.

>>722620531
not even 2025 /a/ will ever seriously consider paying money for anything

>>722603689
If you pay for sex because you're ugly and I get it for free because I'm not some autismo loser, should I have to pay for sex?

>>722629493
Tip them more so they stop expecting handouts from people who have next to nothing.

>>722629912
based

>>722629913
then stop going out to eat broke bitch
not tipping is brownoid behavior, white people always tip

>>722603903
Game devs actually browse /v/ to collect data or get peoples unfiltered opinion.

Imagine not pirating everything that's possible to pirate. How stupid is that? Using that money you could invest it in an indexfund ans retire years earlier. Imagine working for a couple of extra years just to coonsooom legally. Lol.

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>>722603872
My fucking guy right here

>>722630147
>index funds
>not every new meme coin
it's like you enjoy missing out

IF BUYING ISN'T OWNING

>>722629993
Don't tell me what to do, jew.

>>722629993
>white people always tip
White Americans always tip. Not you esl faggots.

White people can walk off a cliff for all I care at this point. Doesn't mean I'm going to follow.

>>722604652
Old news, that's basically the reason gacha exists, and it's certainly not better than what was before.

>>722603621
I don't pirate video games because no video game is worth my time pirating it. If a game is TRULY good it's also worth it's asking price, if it isn't then I just won't play it. I'm not some addict who needs to play every new video game.

>>722603621
>NOOO you can't just get stuff for free when possible. You have to give multi million dollar companies your money!!!

The piracy scene for all over medias are nowhere near as vocal as it is for videogames. For books, anime, whatever they just do it and move on with their day with little grandstanding in comparison. Videogame piracy in comparison its less about "free shit" its moreso about making Team A/B mad that you can get their game for free and thus people boast about it publicly in places they shouldn't be and thats what starts a domino effect of shit.

>>722630932
now that I think on it you're right. for books no one really cares, hell it's even slightly encouraged in some spaces i've been in. HEAVILY encouraged for college textbooks and shit. anime no one really cares since most people watch their shit on free anime sites anyways.
also why are we even decrying piracy when we literally have a torrent board?

>>722631354
>we literally have a torrent board
Torrenting is not piracy.

>>722603903
>no rebuttal from /v/
/v/ has fallen since..... forever

>>722603621
Aren't all these game dev's on a salary or hourly wage? They've already been paid for their work.

every game should be legally forced to have a free 1h trial version that you can pay to play more instead of outright making you buy mystery meat and hoping you miss the reimbursement window.

>t. indie dev

>>722634556
Don't know why devs don't do that whole thing where the demo is just the first part of the game and you can carry your progress into the actual game more often.

I buy AND pirate

>>722635203

Last 5 games you bought and last 5 you pirated.

Go. Go.

>>722634556
Most modern games don't even have any gameplay in the first couple hours. And that's not counting the hour you need to spend tweaking settings to try and figure out how to get the latest UEslop to not stutter quite as much.

>>722634556
I will not play zee demo

>>722603689
>redditbob

>>722603621
Piracy doesn't harm devs, but I wish it did.

>>722635338
Last 5 games I bought off the top of my head:
>Deux Ex and RCT2 on steam sale (actually own physical copies but wanted digital copies since I'm starting to get paranoid about my CD games dying and they're like 2bux)
- Expedition 33
- Pathfinder Kingmaker
- Hololive Treasure Mountain
Couldn't say the exact last 5 games I pirated because I've been downloading shitloads of console games to build an offline archive before the internet gets fully locked down in the next 6-12 months.

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>>722635695

I used to be like you when I was 19. Downloading and archiving everything just in case, etc.

I'm 40 now, don't give a shit about most things and stopped living in the past. I also eat ass but only because my 19 year old girlfriend got me into it.

Truly, I lived as few men dare to dream.

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if video games companies actually wanted me to play their games, then they would make them free.

>>722603689
OH NO NOT POOR NINTENDO! THE SAME NINTENDO THAT GOES OUT OF ITS WAY TO SUE ENTIRE FAMILIES AND FUCK THEM UP FOR LIFE OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

>>722636170
or at least make them good

I have a buddy that will abuse steam's refund system and jump through a million hoops just to keep his refund option open instead of pirating. He's scared shitless that every pirated software will have viruses. It pisses me off when he talks about trying games this way because I know he's just wasting a shitload of mental energy to do it.

>>722630046
like who? and dont give me some indie dev

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Buddy, my backlog is to fucking full to even consider buying/pirating games right now. I decided that until it's under 10, I can start considering. Just this month I realized I only played Bastion for 2 hours in 2018 and somehow convinced myself I beat it.

>>722636556
We've had Ubisoft and EA employees show their badges a decade ago.

>>722634535
no when you buy a game every cent is actually split right then between everyone in the dev studio and the publisher

>>722603903
It's hilarious given how devs/companies just fuck over gamers without a second thought. Even indie devs just look at their players as profits on a graph, the ones who complain are the ones who made shitty/unmarketable games and now they're angry like a camwhore who doesn't get enough viewers or something. Even worse are ones like jonathan blow who admit their game sold well but should've done better, just fuck off.

>>722603621
Why is /v/ the video game Vidya board the only board on 4chan to have troons make anti piracy threads
Every other board loves piracy but this board shills for corporations daily
Hmmm

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>>722620531
/a/ is also guilty of this BTW.

>>722637434
Not even remotely close.

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I want a box, manual, and physical media. If a buy a movie, I should be able watch it without an internet connection. I grew up in the 90s and I'm set in my ways. Steam is what happens when water evaporates

How many Denuvo games have you bought? For me it was:

>Nier Replicant
Worth it for the music

>Warhammer: Chaos Gate
Good but too short

>Lies of P
Meh

>Dragon's Dogma II
Spent 70 dollars and couldn't get a refund. This was a traumatic experience and I made an oath to never ever buy a Denuvo game again. I do believe Denuvo suppresses word of mouth

>>722603689
Sorry bro, I downloaded all the roms I wanted over a decade ago.

>>722637710
>How many Denuvo games have you bought?
Not a single one, I am not sure if I even own a game that used to have Denuvo.

How I arrange the 1s and 0s on my hard drive is none of your goddamn business.

>>722620531
/a/ takes piracy so seriously that it's elitist about it, as they should be because stream peasants aren't human

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>>722637710
i boughted atlus games i know they have it for sure and never remove it

>>722639434
>boughted

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>>722603689
>I put my hand in fire and got burnt, so should you. It's only fair.
Nah, I'm good.

>>722603872
/v/ is pro-piracy but posts like this make them seethe uncontrollably for some reason

>>722620531
no it isn't, /a/ just shits on people for supporting crunchyroll

>>722603621
i haven't pirated a game in at least 10 years, but GPU's are beginning to cost more than what i paid for an entirely new PC setup back in the day, even taking inflation into consideration, if it keeps going like this i might go back to it

this decent looking girl at work once started flirting with me asking what I do when I'm off work. I said a deadbeat gamer. She asked for my steam login. I lost all interest right there

>>722639657
Personally I'm just disappointed he spent his money on gachaslop.

>>722639742
>paid around 1000 for my whole pretty decent setup with a 970 about 11 years ago
>a basic xx80 card is that much by itself now
It's so tiring

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I assemble a new PC build every year and pirate all my games. Not bragging, just a factual statement. Game devs can get mad, or they can just ignore me and keep making games for the people willing to give them money.

>>722603621
>>722603689
People would have more sympathy for the multi-billion dollar corporations if they weren't constantly finding new ways to be greedy scumbags. Every one of these lowlifes support stripping freedoms away from the customer, and drank the "you only own a license" koolaid. So even if you buy their game legally, they'll still throw an absolute bitchfit because heaven forbid you modified it, or romhacked it, or even made backup copies. Since the 90's Nintendo has been whining and moaning about people tampering with their products without their permission.

Whether it was them screeching about how backup copies violate the law, or that cheat codes unfairly modified their games (even though they require you to own the game in the first place) companies would just endlessly find ways to screw people over. The worst part? Personally there's nothing wrong with supporting a game with money, I'm not one of those guys who calls people paypigs or laughs at them for spending their cash. Just don't condemn piracy as if it's inherently bad. You know what truly is bad? An industry that encourages artificial scarcity, when digital games be replicated infinitely.

>>722640554
Why every year?

>>722603689
>>I pay for my games, so should you. Its only fair.
This is the REAL reason why people seethe over pirates.

>>722640825
Mostly habit, and I like seeing new components as they hit the market.

>>722605320
>will also ultimately lead to gaming becoming a service
It already has, it is the reason PC is and consoles are becoming fully digital

>>722640565
Piracy is good, even if you want to support companies. Like let's say you want to enjoy the super nintendo/playstation versions of the original mega man x titles. They have all the fun romhacks that the modern ports don't have, and they work better due to capcom's inadequacy. So piracy gives you easy access to them, without spending 700 dollars for a singular mega man game (I'm not kidding, look up Mega Man x3's price on amazon). if you think capcom deserves money for the games, then buy the legacy collection afterward.

>>722640565
or maybe they should stop making braindead, woke moviegames

>>722640973
trvke. any other reason is just cope

>>722641936
Even a good game is ruined by bad practices, like when a company encourages artificial scarcity.

>buy a copy of metroid prime 2 off the second hand market
>but it's scratched to hell, no refunds
>have no choice but to either rip the game to my PC, or pirate a duplicate copy
>company seethes either way and says that I have to buy a new copy, if my old one stops working
>why? BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO

>>722603689
>i'm a cuck so it's not fair if you don't let your wife be the town's bicycle too
lmao
cuck

>>722637495
This is a big reason I got in to archiving literally every video game from before 2010 and a lot of DRM free executable games. Being able to play something without an internet connection is great.

A lot of indie games on Steam don't have Steam integration and you can launch and play them without it after downloading, but it's not super common anymore. I'm fine with buying those that are though just because I can back it up and keep it forever.

>>722644153
Going through the list made me realize how many games I have that are DRM free, like Recettear.

>>722603689
This is retarded. I emulate because I have to. Feel free to call me a paypig or whatever, but I would absolutely pay for Bloodborne or Mario Galaxy on PC. It's why I bought Chrono Trigger when it was available on Steam.

Since Nintendo and Snoy seem to not want my money, I will simply emulate and get it for free, because I am not going to buy a whole new device that I do not have full control over just to give them more money.

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>>722603689
This, but anyone who receives any government handouts aside from social security should be slaughtered and fed to dogs

I think ive seeded over a terrabyte of silksong. Never played it though, i dont care about it, i simply hate the aussies

>>722603903
But have you tried /mu/ ?

>>722603621
i tried buying a game on steam once just out of curiosity for that fabled convenience steam goys keep blabbering about, couldn't shake off the feeling that i was robbed like a baby
it made me jump through a few hoops too since i haven't done it before so i spent way more time than i would just torrenting it
ended up pirating it anyway cause steam fucking sucks and what i bought didn't include the dlcs, what a fucking waste of money that was

>>722603621
>you were able to purchase this 2 generations old used card once so that means you can afford to drop $80 a week on vidya games
do redditors think people outside america all play on voodoo cards still

>>722608251
Niggers can't operate computers neither pirate anything so your logic doesn't work.

>>722606117
Please kill yourself

>>722603903
This literally a tendie only thing. I don't see snoyfags seething over shadps4's bloodborne but I was see assmad seethe if you talk about play BOTW on Cemu

>>722603621
based me but I've played 100s of games on my 3070 and besides I can't afford games with my crippling alcohol addiction

>>722620531
>go on /a/
>"hey I pirated this manga on [site]"
>"HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE LITERALLY GENOCIDING THESE PIRATES OH MY FUCKING GOD STOOOOOOOOOP MY COCK IS READY TO RAPE YOU CMEREEEEEEEE"
ftfy

>>722603621
It's weird. As a young child all my games were legal. As a teenager I pirated games when I could. As a young adult with a job I bought my games again. And now as someone at 36 I've been pirating almost exclusively for nearly a decade, and enjoying the savings that I can then put into my brokerage. I pirate because it lets me save even more money, and I don't know if I'd ever go back to being someone that buys all their games.

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>>722603689
I could not give a single shit about piracy, but hackers and cheaters in online games on the other hand should be fucking publicly lynched, but I'd settle for fines and jail time.

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>>722603689
I pay people to steal the games for me. We are not the same

>>722645605
>It's why I bought Chrono Trigger when it was available on Steam.
Unfortunately I'm in the same situation, but had to "downgrade" to the SNES and DS versions because the steam version just flat out didn't work for me. First time playing it, and the damn thing crashed on me.

>>722637710
I bought like 800 games on steam and I hardly buy games with Denuvo. The ones with Denuvo in my library existed because I didn't know they have Denuvo when I bought them.

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>>722603827
A fellow connoisseur I see

>>722652086
And how many of them are unplayed?

I've been using piracy to try before I buy for 20 years. I think I've bought one game after pirating it in 20 years.

>>722647528
>I don't see snoyfags seething over shadps4's bloodborne
You clearly haven't been in the threads.

>>722603621
All of the thirdworld shiteaters and poorfags replying to >>722603689 outing themselves kills me

>>722603621
Even if I don't pirate, I won't be buying their goyslop either.

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>>722603621
redditors are all about eating the rich but pirating a game is too much?

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>>722603621
Pirates are just as retarded as consoomers
Imagine wanting to play any of the modern slop being released, even for free

>>722603621
why don't people complain about free gasoline like they do free video games?

>>722652981
They're very schizo about their views. It's like how they also think all police/military organizations are jackboot thugs trying to oppress blacks and gays but then also say only the police and military should have guns.

>>722603621
Deal with it.

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Be a piratecuck is ok if you're still under 23/24 years old something and you have not enough money.
The moment you become an adult you should be able to fund your hobbies or you're a failure of a man.
So, if you're still a piratenigger in your adulthood, you should be thrown in jail. Your jail-mate should be a nigger that looks like Morpheus and he should constantly rape you like you're the Joker, obliterating your rectum 20 hours a day while shouting
>NEEEOOON! PICK LE RED PILL AND TRAVEL WITH ME IN THE COSMIC VOID WHILE EATING DA PROTEIN SLOPPA, NEEEOOON!"

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>>722609082
>thinks

>>722603903
Its just contrarians being retarded, just like always.

>>722653129
>ummmm pay the ebay seller $500 for the PS1 game that might or might not work or you're a chud
shan't, lmfao

>>722653184
Ethan Klein but jeet.

>>722653129
>people against piracy fantasize about homosexual rape
why is this so common in people who are constantly wrong about every aspect of life?

>>722603621
I don't pirate games but I don't care about those that do. I also buy and play about 5 games a year so I know what I'm buying beforehand.
I've gotten close to about 1000 hours out of the last 6 games I've bought.

>>722645605
>I am not going to buy a whole new device that I do not have full control over just to give them more money.
Same. I pirate Steam games because I don't own them.

>>722603872
I really wanted Lama but didn't get her. Is there any other super hot babe that is scantily dressed coming to Genshin anytime soon?

>>722603903
They’re just mad we get for free what they had to pay for. It’s never even actually a morality issue for them, they’re afraid of getting a virus or not getting achievements or their friends not seeing them play it or it not being the most updated version of the game or even that it doesn’t feel the same when they didn’t buy it(irrecoverably cucked), they use the morality angle as a high ground to complain about what they really hate, that they spend hundreds on games and you didn’t but you still played the same games.

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>>722653226
>>722653376
t. failure of a man
sad!

>>722606117
Nintendo consoles are the easiest to and most pirated consoles by far

>>722654035
Still shan't

>>722603621
Truth is that most games are not even worth pirating. And interesting games I buy. I'd rather do something else, than playing game, even for free, that I won't feel like buying. What's the fucking point? I know it's shit, why waste time.

>>722603689
1: piracy is definitionally not theft
2: emulation is not only not illegal, it's literally necessary for the development of games for consoles
3: life isn't fair, why should our money be?

>>722603621
I always assume piracy threads are rage bait.
Unfortunately some people have no moral code or compass, and don't care about anything other than themselves. I can't change that, just like I can't change the fact that some people are rapists or serial killers. I just know that it's wrong.

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>>722603621
The new digimon game costs 70 dollars for the gutted version, 100 for the halfway, and 120 for the full version.

I may not be able to play it for a long time. But when i do it'll be pirated and i won't give a shit. I dont mind the wait. I got a big backlog anyways

>>722603621
>You can afford to spend $3000 on a GPU why not $3000 more for the games.

Retarded logic, but I don't pirate games, I also don't buy them.

I have plenty of games over the past 30 years to enjoy.

>>722654623
>1: piracy is definitionally not theft
This is the type of semantic cope i'm talking about. Whether or not you think it counts as "theft" is irrelevant, because it's both illegal and morally wrong.

>>722654698
>>You can afford to spend $3000 on a GPU why not $3000 more for the games.
he didn't say that tho?
i never pirate and my yearly game budget is like 120 dollars maximum

>>722603621
If they work for a megacorp the megacorp paid them for the work. They're not getting a cent from sales.

>>722603903
i do really enjoy how the official discussion for a recently released movie on /tv/ is the a cut and paste torrent title with the resolution and scene group pasted 5 times

>>722654786
It's important because IP is just a govenrment backed cartel.

>>722654786
>Whether or not you think it counts as "theft" is irrelevant, because it's both illegal and morally wrong.
it's not theft because it's gross copyright infringement without monetary gain
illegal, yes, but a civil infraction
as for morality, that's subjective. Ethically it's fine

>>722603689
Wake me up when I will be able to play mother 3 and Baiten Kaitos origin legally

>>722603689
I shot myself in the foot. So should you. It's only fair.

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>>722603689

I punch schlomo goldstein right in the shekels

Everytime you download a ROM a kike goes bankrupt and when you play it a nigger dies. Could you please stop it already?

>>722655240
OY THE AGONY
OOOH THE SHAME

>>722603621
I would pirate if they made anything worth playing.
Lucky for me there's decades worth of far superior games I haven't played yet.
They created this coffin and lied down in it. It's all theirs

>>722603689
NO!

>>722606117
Nintendo talks big on piracy, and is obviously very litigious against those making themselves a public target for spreading piracy or profiting of it through them.
But their consoles (dunno bout switch 2) have always been the easiest to pirate either on pc or through homebrewing their consoles. My Wii has been one of the best value gaming purchases I ever made because of this.
I mostly play on pc/nintendo and I feel no need to defend Nintendos ip rights. The message I take from Nintendo is
>Yeah fine do it but shut up about it in public and don't profit off us

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>>722655749
OHOHOHOHO IS THAT A BAD WORD? TOP HUMOR XDDD

>>722603689
Bait or not, consoleplebs are fucking stupid.

>>722656251
Best way to fight piracy is to make good games and not use anti-consumer practices. Ironically, another best way to fight piracy is make absolute slop that is so bad that no one wants to pirate it and you have to use anti-consumer practices to scam people into paying for it.

>>722603827
based amortization chad.
You pay for all the money you earned by inflation why should you waste it any more.
Blame devs for not optimizing their games, forcing you to buy overpriced hardware.

@722603689
>I pay for games, so should you
The anger in this child's voice, lol

lmao even

>>722603621
I don't care if people pirate games. Hell, I did as well.

What I don't understand is why those people pretend like they're something special. Is this a situation where a guy sees some other guy's collection, gets triggered for no reason, and then starts posting shit like
>yeah I pirated that, please reply to me

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>>722603621
i buy games that are worth buying
i bought factorio on launch because it's great
i bought pictopix on a sale because i love picross
i bought code vein because i pirated it ane enjoyed it, but no fucking way i'm gonna pay $60 for it
and i pirated 99% of games i played and won't ever buy them
>but muh devs!
most of these are fucking corpos, fuck them, most of those money goes to fucking shaleholder scum. i feel zero remorse for pirating game, in fact i feel negative remorse. if corpo rats and shareholders felt physical pain from pirating i'd spent real money on renting aws instances just to run torrents on them

Imagine paying for games in an era where they expect you to pay more for less content, games release buggier than ever and every video game on the planet launches with a season pass.

>>722658050
couldn't be me
but them i also don't play this kind of slop so

>>722603689
>fair
no such thing exists, anyone who brings up fairness is whining because they're weak or losing

every night before bed i pray for more layoffs

It's technically possible to pirate a game 100% morally. You just have to:

1. Build a machine that can 100% perfectly simulate the universe
2. Simulate the universe, except make it so Game X is impossible to pirate
3. Observe your simulated self's behaviour

If your simulated self still does not buy the game, you can morally pirate it. If they do, you're immorally stealing the game.

>>722603621
I wanted to play a bit of borderlands so I downloaded 3
it came out in 2019
if I wanted the full experience it'd be like 150$

lol
lmao

>>722659685
Why do you have to simulate yourself to divine your own opinions, instead of simply knowing your own mind?

>>722603621
You can call me scumbags for not paying devies. But you guys can't call me wrong for being cheap ass faggot.

>>722660090
I won't call you cheap
There was no reason for them to raise the price of games

>>722603689
those games aren't sold anymore
inb4
>buy used
devs don't get money
>released on newer console
overpriced cashgrab, don't care

>>722660345
>those games aren't sold anymore
>admits 4 lines later that they are in fact still being sold

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>>722603621
I will pirate and there's nothing you can do about it

>>722660405
not physical

>>722603689
the industry should fucking die faster
if piracy actually hurt it I would do nothing but pirate all day
fafgots

>buy game i like
>sequel is full of changes i dont like till the franchise is completely different from what i liked it
fuck videogames and fuck "supporting" them and fuck you devs

>>722619014
>buy the demake which its completely different and only shares names
i wont shill

>>722623340
a wii u is 165€
still isn't worth buying for 2 exclusives for that price

>>722660335
yes, being jews

reminder that you cant even BUY games
you are just paying for a 'limited license to use the software"

>>722660747
>paying for 0 and 1 you can't even hold in your hand
some retards are proud of that

>>722604652
how is denuvo for the better? piracy has made games way worse

if i'm not the target audience anymore why would i buy the game
ask your new audience

In my entire life I probably bought at most 10 games total. Everything else has been pirated.

Any kind anon have the picture of the kid telling the developer he's going to pirate his game and then saying 'Heavy voice NO!'?

>>722614360
that's literally winning lmao

>aw man this country is defending its territory I guess I'll leave now, their loss

Piracy is an obligation

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I buy most of my games and I don't really care about people pirating games because they're poor or some shit since not everyone is in a financially privileged situation and I remember what it was like to be poor/not have access to a credit card. I just think the old pirate adage of buying a game if you like it is a smart one since if you like a game so much that you want to see more of it, then buying it so the developers have sales + metrics to show that a game is financially successful is just in the interest of everyone.

Of course this doesn't apply to gay tranny games like Concord or Dustborn but I'd be asking why would you even want to pirate those pieces of shit

I predict piracy is probably on its way out anyway since Denuvo has a lot of packages that a different range of developers can access along with Denuvo offering would-be crackers jobs or litigation and there's only a few schizos like Empress left to crack Denuvo and they're off running some sort of schizo cult as far as I know

>>722612597
>wait a year
>denuvo subscription gets dropped because it's no longer worth it
gg no re thanks for beta testing

>>722655902
>t. brownoid

>>722661201
>f you like a game so much that you want to see more of it, then buying it
did that all my life from 93 to 2005
see how every game and sequel after 2005 is shit? well i learned my lesson
even franchises i couldn't afford for being poor? also turned to shit

>>722603903
/v/ is full of tranny redditors. they do insane mental gymnastics to convince people to pay 50+ bucks for overpriced, unoptomized and UNFINISHED slop.
copes range from "you're poor!" to "you're brown!" which just gives you the idea of how old these retarded posters are.

>>722661002
>country
video games

>>722608353
Yeah you can, torrents have no limit on the number of people you can share stuff with

>>722637710
no one
they aren't worth playing

>>722603872
The second part is correct but it's invalidated by you being a subhuman gachanigger

I pirated games when I was in college, but I started paying for them once I got a job
Back then, I'd torrent the game, but instead of using the crack the group added to the disc image, I'd get the crack from GameBurnWorld, MegaGames, or GameCopyWorld because I trusted them
What does everyone do now? How do you know that you aren't installing some sort of malware?

>>722637710
>I do believe Denuvo suppresses word of mouth
how exactly, did you sign an nda to never talk about DD2. I do you think everyone with buyers remorse will refuse to talk negatively about their mistake

>>722663227
>How do you know that you aren't installing some sort of malware?
i just search on google what i want to play download it and call it a day

>>722603689
I've played more vidya than almost anyone on this board and I haven't bought a game since 2009.

>>722603621
>make unoptimized games that require really expensive hardware to run
>also want hundreds of dollars to play your game
Not happening.
I'll never pay for a game that requires high end hardware. Optimize your slop.