>I deliberately brainwashed myself to make everyone believe I was possessed by your dead brother.ok but why tho?
It's very hard for humans to act, especially under pressure and for a long timeProbably the same reason Light actually forfeited the Death Note when he was in prison instead of just pretending he never had it
>>722611308Ocelot has a fetish for hypnosis
>>722611308MGS4 was horrible and Kojimbo is an overrated piece of shit.
>>722611308Just accept it
>>722611308Only way to get close enough to the Patriots to enact his plan, you fucking idiot. Were you even paying attention?
>>722611308Making the Patriots believe ghosts and possession is real made them more unstable and schizophrenic
>>722611308When this is fully revealed doesn't he state exactly why? To fool the Patriot's AI?
>>722611308>Snake!>It was funny!
>>722611939ok but why did he fucking brainwash himself? Liquid's personality is not that hard to replicate
>>722612130Ever heard of method acting, retard?
>>722611308Ocelot takes the craft of acting very seriously. This was his career-defining role, so he went all out for it.
>>722611308Because Kojima is a hack.
>>722611308because kojima is a hack that can't write
>hey SON or should I say BROTHER???>You see this retard in a wheelchair? He was behind it all. Everything is wrapped up now. I bought a ps3 for this. I'll never not be mad.
>>722612234Oh yeah, Jim Carrey MK Ultra'd himself to be like Andy Kaufman for the biography movie. how could I forget?
>set him up as the son of The Sorrow in MGS3 to better justify his possession by a ghost>ignore it in MGS4 because all the talent at Kojima Productions had left and Hideo's untethered retardation takes direct control
>>722611939>>722612234go away kojimbo, nobody did rike it
>>722612372The 1-2 punch of this game being a huge sack of shit followed by the PS3's lackluster first couple of years led to a lot of my friends just peacing out of video games. A game so shit it killed a medium.
>>722612482the sorrow wasn't real he was just another larper
>>722612424>Jim CarreyMore like daniel day lewis or christian bale, but yes
>>722612663And everyone clapped
>>722612482ah but you see he wasnt actually a psychic it was all the VOCAL PARASITES
>>722612664>>722612757it's amazing that MGS4 and V have no legacy beyond retroactively ruining their predecessors
>>722611308I still can't believe how passionately people defend mgs4 as some citizen kane or shawshank redemption of vidya
Having to play as "Old Snake" with fucking back problems unironically felt like a humiliation ritual
When I got the MGS collection over a decade ago, I played from the first Metal Gear to MGS3. Never touched 4 or the time warp PSP game with proto-Rex and AIs in the 1970s either.I don't regret the decision.
>>722612130Because he's trying to trick an AI.
>>722613267You didn't miss out since it went retarded as fuck after MGS3.
>>722612956You'd be amazed and disappointed to hear how many people played it as their first MGS game despite it being 100% anti-fan service
>>722613891>You didn't miss out since it went retarded as fuck with MGS3.FTFY
>>722612663Hard to believe when sf4 and gta4 released the same year. Hindsight aside, these two games were fucking massive on their release.
>>722614271Not the biggest fan of MGS3 anyway. I'm more of a MGS1 and MGS2 guy. Solid Snake is better than Big Boss.
>>722612956The online was really good though
>>722614380I'm with you. I enjoyed a single play through of 4 but I'm not gonna act like it's the greatest shit out. However I despise prequels in almost every format and mgs games were no exception.
>>722612921MGSV has a big legacy though, it's easily the most popular and well known game these days.
I forget, was it ever explained how Zero and his ebin AI system managed to take over the US government?
>>722611308he had to fool the patriots
>>722614526I loved mgo2. You just had to be there
>>722614679I think he just used all his philosopher money to buy influence and minions and shit until he was in charge. It's not really explained well, like everything to do with Zero and Cipher/the Patriots.
>>722614679Lies and misinformation on social media
>>722614526>online>sweatlords who literally used the same assault rifle and used camera tricks to one shot you
>>722611308He's a chump and thinking he was the forgotten son of big boss made things easier than trying to take over the world as himself.
>>722611308Hack GW? It is explained
>>722614863Weren't they already in control by the 80s?
>>722612482This is why I think everything after 3 was trash
>>722612482Everything in 4 is because he was pissed about having to make another Metal Gear, particularly a sequel to 2. He was going through a pissy little mid life crisis so he intentionally made 4 a really stupid, terrible, story designed to end/ruin the series. It didn't work.
>>722611308The nanomachines in Liquid Snake got into Ocelot through Liquid's arm, and essentially reprogrammed his brain into thinking he was Liquid.
>>722614645You're right, when people hear Metal Gear Solid they think of Venom Snake (Keifer Sutherland). It's hard to overstate the impact characters like Code Talker and Quiet had on gaming as a culture. Don't be a fucking idiot.
>>722615991>Code TalkerWHO?
>>722616143The old fart.
>>722611939I understand why he did it. but that doesn't make it any less stupid. Stupid in a bad way beyond campy hammy and corny
>>722611308How many times did Ocelot jerk himself off with Liquid's arm while pretending it was Big Boss?
>>722612703Don't forget Heath Ledger taking it so far with drugs that it killed him.
>>722611308Why did they make it so liquid wasn’t possessing him which was he doing in MGS2 but then he hypnotised himself into becoming Liquid retroactively making the whole thing pointless
>>722615636People have said that about every game after 2 but it doesn't change the fact that all of his full-creative-control games are equally terrible.
>>722615636Did he intend for people to dislike the homosexual softcore porn scene between Raiden and Vamp?
>>722611308>retcon shitthe signs of a bad author
>>722615991AgreedThough when I hear the words: "Metal Gear Solid" I immediately think Duran Duran.https://youtu.be/RoYXgdHafBA?si=FySb-EWz-ZGZqqkr
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake is a fucking masterpiece, btw.
>>722616856Based
>>722614950>who literally used the same assault rifleThe fact M4 was best assault rifle in MGO2 didn't help
>>722612743I remember most kids I knew stopped playing video games then too. It was shit release after shit release and the answers varied from "video games are boring now" to "I specifically was hyped for [game] and it was so shit I sold my PS3 the next day".But maybe it's because I was 16 when MGS4 came out and that's the age where most kids stop playing video games except loser nerds like myself.
>>722611308>write a mysterious plot twist in MGS2>COULD LIQUID'S GHOST REALLY HAVE POSSESSED OCELOT THROUGH HIS ARMS?!?!?!>probably hoping he get to move on from MGS, opting to just do a prequel for MGS3>has to MGS4 on Sony's new system anyways>now has to somehow flesh it out>could it actually be paranormal like the sarrow and psychomantic from MGS1/3? Could it just be nanomachines like everything else from MGS2? Nope, it's just good ole fashion brainwashing
LIQUIIIIIIIIID
>>722616518He had full creative control on basically every game. He had co-writers on every game, even 4, but he was the main guy in charge of basically everything in all games including the main plots and characters of the first 3 that people still like. Besides even 4 is clearly worse than PW and MGSV.
>>722616856Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake is a very fun game to think about and a very unfun game to actually play.
>>722617473>>722612663This is like revisionist history, 360/PS3 era was win video games blew up, a lot of normie kids I knew who didn't give a shit about games suddenly got super into them. Not because of Metal Gear of course but still.
>>722618537>unfun game to actually play.I completed it the other day. I disagree entirely.
>>722611308You can't just ask an AI how to build a bomb, you have to hit it with just the right balance of schizo garbage nonsense and on topic coherence for it to do what you want. Thats how Ocelot outsmarted the Patriots AI.
>>722616656No, but Raiden is intentionally "cooler" as a fuck you to people who didn't like 2. No one wanted to play as him at the time so he made him into an edgy Gray Fox clone who does all kinds of ludicrous action fag shit while you are an old man stuck on the sidelines watching. Everyone wanted to play as Snake in 2 so when 4 came a long he punished them by creating a scenario where everyone wanted to play Raiden instead but weren't allowed.
MGS4 is actual dog shit but the climax being two elderly men punching each other is kino
>>722612350/thread
>>722615991Kek
>>722618628I'm going to assume you used a walkthrough or are lying.
>>722611939>Only way to get close enough to the Patriots to enact his planBut Ocelot himself is one of the Patriots.
Because Kojima barely thinks about the next game, even DS2 had asspulls. There are retcons every iteration, MGS1 to MGS2 was the sequence that had the least retcons because he actually setup a sequel with that ending but MG2 was pretty final and so was MGS2.
I'm tired of pretending that kojima's original ending of snake and otacon getting executed wasn't kino. It fits in perfectly with the boss and MGS3 and has a much more emotional impact than big boss exposition dumping and then dying.
>>722611308to fool the system. and because apparently it actually was liquid in mgs2 and thought it might be a good idea to roll with it after he replaced his arm with a nanomachine one.
>>722619345What was the original plan exactly? They beat the patriots and then get killed?
>>722619345it was too good, it would've been amazing.
>>722618621wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
>>722611308Just to confuse the Patriots AI
>>722612130Spoilers - Self-hypnosis just means lying and believing it.
>>722617681it was paranormal in 2, but after 2 ocelot had the arm cut off again and replaced with someone else's so he stopped actually getting possessed. But the experience gave him a good idea so he pretended to keep it up.
MGS-core music incominghttps://youtu.be/cVD1b5rXrFs?si=wIWRZAE4-0tnU-Q0
you get banned for nothing on 4chan nowadays, the newfag mods and jannies are ruining the site for everyoneno wonder the site is dying
>>722620079POV: you are attempting to dive into the DARPA chief's mind
mgs4 haters deliberately brainwashed themselves to make everyone believe that they care about any metal gear game, lore or character at all.
>>722611308See what getting no pussy does to a man?
>>722620505>defending an entry in a series by calling the entire series trashAlways evidence you're coping
>>722620520www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-h2j7sp5V8Ocelot was 100% in it for the manass and you better believe he got plenty of it
>>722620578epic schizoid delusions you got there pal
Big Boss and Venom are so fucking funny. People ask 'but what about the big downfall moment where he turns evil! We never saw him turn evil!' Nigga this man was already inventing PMCs on a secret offshore base, killing marines and CIA agents on the shadow government's payroll, kidnapping strangers calling himself their savior, buying everyone's bullshit that he's the most epic legendary hero. and collecting secret nukes way back in 1974. I mean come on guys
>>722619708oops, meant for>>722617473>>722612663
My headcanon is that at big shell, Snake obtained a bio sample of Liquid's Snake foxdie affected DNA merged with Ocelot and was able to develop a serum stopping the accelerated aging, though not curing the virus. Then he took Raiden in and trained him to be his replacement, and retired to Alaska with Mei Ling (the colonel's daughter rightly died in mgs1 in my canon). Then we got a game with Raiden and Otacon tracking down Big Boss and allying with him to destroy the Patriots. They succeed but Raiden dies, and Boss's true dream is fulfilled when finally, Big Boss and Ocelot and Otacon come to Alaska to watch Snake win the dog race one last time before dying of foxdie, and they bury him outside his cabin with Mei Ling woving to take care of his doggos.
>>722620505MGS4 was good until chapter 3, then it turned into complete dogshit
>>722621494You're weird
>>722611308if it works it works
>>722621641Never said I wasnt.
>>722621494That's pretty much on par with MGS4's writing. Sorry.
>>722611308Zero always believed it would be possible to reconcile with Big Boss and built secret admin privileges into the Patriot network that used his genetic and memetic data to log in.The system accepts data from his clones as well, so Ocelot pretended to be Liquid Snake and stole the DNA of all his brothers so he could take over the system.
>>722611308funni
>>722621858No because Big Boss and Ocelot live and they are the main characters.
>>722618621This. MGS4, GTA 4, RDR. These were games that appealed to late teens-30 year old men. For the first time in history, this oft forgotten portion of the population had games that catered to them, and it caused the 360 and PS3 to be the best selling non-Nintendo consoles of all time.
kino
Doing it for the lulz
>>722618805I think that's funny with how MGS4 butchered the redeemable parts of Raiden's character. he was an action man with accolades and agency in MGS2 but turned into a piece of shit jobber who can't get through a single boss fight without Snake softening him up first. and it highlighted the negative parts of his character, the relationship with Rose and getting back together with her unconditionally, being a whiny piece of shit, and being gay (if you look at the way their first fight ended you'd think they were star crossed lovers)but apparently it worked wonderfully and people liked Raiden now that he turned into a set of jingling keys
>>722614645pls Anon dont make me bring out the % of how many ppl beat that shit game
>>722617681>>COULD LIQUID'S GHOST REALLY HAVE POSSESSED OCELOT THROUGH HIS ARMS?!?!?!gay
>>722615991They think of the game they actually played. They probably do actually think of Venom as Big Boss and lots of Quiet porn
>>722611308Brainwashing is more believable than acting, enough so that even the Patriots' AI couldn't discern him from the real Liquid and broke its own logic. It's also an innate skill of Ocelot's and he was devoted to his goals, so why not go all the way?
>>722612757'Vocal parasites making ethnic genocide possible by targeting language' was a fucking great plot point, no bully pls.
>>722611308He had to come up with a plan so convoluted and ridiculous that not even a super powered AI with all the worlds information could see through it.
>>722624575He's just like me fr...
>>722611308MGS4 is Kojima getting forced into explaining all the purposefully absurd ideas from MGS2
>>722624465not when it was just a an excuse of a poor plot device just to be able to list a b grade actor and to be able to cheap out on his voice lines
>>722619194You can assume all you like. You're wrong.
>>722622091Best Boss Crew?>FOXHOUND>Dead Cell>Cobra Unit>B & B Corps>Winds of Destruction
>>722626978Anon, this was the game that finally made them tard wrangle Kojima out of the company due to budget blow outs, they weren't cheaping out on anything. The plot is just typical Kojima magitek NANOMACHINES SON
>>722627549that's a cool picture I bet that guy is dead as hell though
>>722622091I really like when people criticised Quiet and Kojima said once they heard her story they would eat their words. Then you have the B&B and he just hired all the hottest models and gave Drebin codec calls to explain their backstory.Part of me is a coomer so I am cool with it but Kojima is a hack.
Are the FROGs the best enemies in the series?
>>722611502>Probably the same reason Light actually forfeited the Death Note when he was in prison instead of just pretending he never had itHe knew he would crack eventually. Also that plot armor was retarded. Didn't even come with a single downside
More like foxdei
>>722611308Japanese Liquid Snake VA died
>>722612372I maintain that MGS 4 wasn't that bad as long as you turn the game off when the credits initially roll so this fucking scene doesn't play.
Fuck Liquid Ocelot. Liqu widants to empty the nanomachines, fill up our streets with nanomachines, and make a Metal Gear proliferation operation out of his nanomachines.
>>722612921It's been over a decade & Ubisoft still hasn't made a game that tops MGSV. Wildlands and Breakpoint are pretty much standout examples of how Ubisoft can't ever feel the need to commit to anything that would uproot the open world formula.>>722623090In order to 100% TPP you need to collect all animals, do all side ops, etc. formula you get from piss walker a game which I think is actually overrated
>>722611308because he needed to
>>722611308>ok but why tho?nanomachines
I dont understand how making Patriots think Liquid possessed him helped his plan.What system did he fool?Why couldnt he do his whole MGS4 plan as just Ocelot?They went after him anyway, even when he was "Liquid"Explain.
Why didn't Zero just tell Sigint to unplug the AI
>>722621494My headcanon is:>Snake has cancer instead of accelerated aging, mostly from being a clone than the smoking.>Liquid survives, but now has heart problems.>There is no Venom Snake, Big Boss was a piece of shit that swapped sides for the fun of fighting and considered The Boss' philosophy as bleeding heart horseshit. The only reason he came back to The States was regarding Solid and Liquid.>JD was the only intelligent AI in The Patriots, the other AIs was to impede and retard any attempt for complete control, should it gone rouge.>There's two more clone children, from DNA samples of both Bosses. One made for peace, the other for war.
>>722613374>Trying to trick the AI that basically has control over people's biometric information and DNA through nanomachines
>>722635703Zero never regretted the AI thing, he was braindead by the point it backfired. I don't know why sigint went along with the AI thing anyway
>>722611727Peasant.
>>722635671Much like the meme of MGS2, the system repeats itself, Snake vs a renegade (Boss, Big Boss, Liquid). To trick the system they almost needed to pretend to go along with the system.
>>722615398>after 3Except 3 is also shit.
>>722635671The idea is that when he does something against the patriot's wishes its him being possessed by Liquid, the reason why the patriots dont just kill Ocelot is because hes too good of an asset to get rid of. It's not that difficult to understand.
>>722611308Kojima even created The Sorrow to justif6 the possession crap. But throw everything away in MG4. Resume: Kojima doesn't really know what he is doing, it's all pure random.
Ocelot has to do shit like this otherwise he can't cum
Ocelot was just REALLY into his RP ok? What's wrong with that?
>>722636079Sigint is a stupid asshole I guess
>>722627674I actually liked Quiet's concept but the execution was just botched because Kojimbo's fucktoy nepohire was just so miscast as the role.>>722639623What I wouldn't give to just decanonize MGS4 and do a complete rewrite.
>>722619218The AIs, by the time of MGS2, have completely usurped control of the Patriots from the original founders.
>>722639623He spends the entire game retconning everything supernatural to just be nanomachines, but then there's the Screaming Mantis fight at the end with actual ghosts.
>>722616667It's not a retcon, it's a recontextualization. Everything is still correct as presented in those games, there's just different reasons for things which the player of those games wasn't aware of.It's still incredibly retarded but it's still less bad than a retcon.
>>722640615>Kojimbo's fucktoy nepohire was just so miscast as the roleBut enough about Queefer.
>>722641747Him too
>>722640615It's not much of a role man
>>722636075>literally composed of some of the actual DNA of the subject hes trying to impersonate>is intrinsically linked to the subject in many facets relevant to a machine that operates off of data, physiological phenomena, historical events and behavioural patterns>said AI has numerous previous examples of old systems inhabiting new systems because it is itself one such thingAnon the best way to trick an AI is probably actually to replicate as many features of the original thing as possible. Big Boss himself isnt even comprised solely of his own body parts anymore by MGS4
>>722611308>Ocelot wants to end the Patriots>Ocelot's DNA accesses the Patriots>if Ocelot tries to end the Patriots they will cut off his access>Liquid is his own entity>Ocelot pretends to be Liquid>Ocelot successfully mantles Liquid>Patriots think Ocelot is Liquid>Patriots try to block Liquid>Ocelot's access remains intact>just according to kekI preferred it when Ocelot was partially psychic because he's the son of the Sorrow and the Joy, and he was possessed by Liquid's ghost as a consequence of Shadow Moses
>>722642039There's definately a role even if she only had like 3 sentences in terms of speech which even those sounded awkwardly delivered. Quiet's supposed to be a sleek hardcore assassin, but Joosten just has a soft doughy look to her face that makes the character's visuals just look mismatched and off even though the later concept art is supposed to look like her.
>>722642326I think at some point there was conversation of Liquid actually potentially having possessed him during MGS2, but Ocelot decided to opt for controlling it and allowing the perception that he was continuously possessed from then on for security reasons. Cant really hatch a solid plan if Liquid pops up occasionally to say "BIX NOOD SNAKE"
2 should've never gotten a sequel, any kind of continuation kills the ambiguity in its ending and ruins the game's themes
>>722642621If theres anything that ive learned about spy media or intelligence its not to bother assessing what a persona looks like because even the mismatched characteristics of some characters tend to be the exact key components of plots. The same thing is similar IRL aswell. Its sort of the point of getting good actors or agents, so they can play and do things completely irrelevant to what the actually look like. ie: Paz
>>722642821no it doesnt because the games themes are about explorations of their proposed concepts not saccharine ambiguous statements. MGS1 was genetic control, MGS2 was information control, MGS3 was manipulation and control of natural elements and MGS4 was the culmimation of all of these things into a modern era into complete and total control of basal elements."everything after MGS2 ruins the themes" doesnt make sense because that sort of shit doesnt just "end" and the global pursuit of information control doesnt end because you defeated a boss. There were numerous elements above and beyond Solidus that played a role in the events of the entire game.
>>722642732>"BIX NOOD SNAKE"I want to hear Cam Clarke actually say that
liquid snake game when?like mgsv but you're an asshole
>>722611939But why did the Patriots believe him? Aren't they robots?
>>722643152>Ninja Gaiden Yaiba but MGSi dont trust a single videogame dev currently or previously active not to just make Liquid an overly edgy fuck and think the antithesis to Solid Snake is character action button mashing, swearing and blood>Stick a knife in a dirtpoor african or Finnish farmer on patrol with a rusty AK/Suomi>Liquid: "FUCK OFF HAHAHA"
>>722619345It wouldn’t have made any sense, unless the story was dramatically rewritten. The government doesn’t really hate Snake or Otacon, The Patriots viewed them as useful pawns for getting rid of Liquid Ocelot. They also just saved the world for the hundredth time, they weren’t playing the villain like the boss was. For what possible reason would there be to have them killed in a firing squad?
>>722643235They believed him specifically because theyre robots and the supernatural or technological elements that could allow Ocelots scheme to be genuine are real in MGS. His father was factually a psychic medium.
>>722643286>an overly edgy fuck and think the antithesis to Solid Snake is character action button mashing, swearing and bloodBut enough about Meat Gear: The Revengeancing.
>>722643463that game's ending was more homosexually charged than Brokeback Mountain
>>722643235it's like this:have you played Morrowind? The Nerevarine is someone who mantles Nerevar so hard that fate thinks they actually are Nerevar and that shit is playing out againthe Patriot AIs don't see Ocelot acting like Liquid, they see Liquid's actions and try to act against Liquid's actionseven if the AIs figure out that Ocelot is acting under hypnosis they will also conclude that his actions aren't his fault and won't remove his access
>>722643463yes, that was the implication. But I also dont think any modern devs could resist turning a Liquid Snake game into a Vietnam Twin Snakes type affair. There just couldnt be any subtelty to it because Liquid doesnt have any real somber life events that we know of, hes been an asshole since he was 8
>>722611308It was because the Patriots were an A.I. so they knew it'd try the exact same method that worked to kill Liquid the first time, which was to send Snake
>>722619456Tried for war crimes, put on trial, and executed. By whom? Who fucking knows.
>>722643861>The Nerevarine is someone who mantles Nerevar so hard that fate thinks they actually are Nerevar and that shit is playing out againFuck offThe only "mantling" that actually happens in the Elder Scrolls games is Old Sheo shunting his schizo ass job off to new mortal assholes every time he gets Jyggy with it
>>722631021The fuck are you on about? The game is bad from start to finish. This ending doesnt make it any more worse.
>>722627674did you know he wanted the B&B's to be naked under the suit I would of cummed so much to that>>722628179yes by far
>>722644453I think you might be fake-salty if you dont think that opening act at least was pretty cool. There hasnt been a third person stealth game set in such open warfare since.
>>722621494>My headcanon is that at big shell,you get good gameplay and funwow mine too
>>722643286Long as you get to one hand a machine gun and fuck shit up while throwing one liners I'm sold.
>>722644453yet still better then 3 and 2
>>722612663Bullshit. PS3 is when videogames became mainstream.
>>722612130Thing is in MGS2 he was explicitly being controlled by Liquid Snake through said arm, repeatedly. The Patriots basically had him marked as a triple turncoat wacko because of this, but Ocelot also knew damn well that if he wanted to betray them, he couldn't risk Liquid's impulsive retardation keep taking him over at the worst possible times. So he replaced the arm with a synthetic one, which is supposed to be your first real hint when the coats are off at the end of 4 that something isn't quite right here if you're really paying attention to weird details like that, and then used self-hypnosis to "stabilize the takeover". Make the Patriots think he's all Liquid, all the time, so they create all their plans against him based on that idea without realizing it's actually a ruse.It's super turbo fucking retarded as with anything in 4, but honestly, besides wasting the real soul of Liquid as a potential character in favor of "but it was hypnosis bro", it's probably one of the smarter plot twists in that disaster class writing.
>>722644887Better than 3 but not as good as 2
>>7226450412's you can only play once has 0 zero replayabilty
>>722644453The game was a rollercoaster ride of quality that wildly veered up and down between complete retarded dogshit and pure unfiltered kino.The big thing is that it was at least only fucking up itself, whereas that final cutscene ruins the game's own existing ending as well as shitting all over the previous games.
>>722641747I don't think kiefer's miscast I think kiefer's a bad VAHe's obviously picked because he was the star of 24 and sounds like an average american which is the point of making him venom a snake (You) are supposed to beNot a fan of V's retreading of the raiden schtick though
>>722643463>>722643651>>722643936MGR is pure kino, the real successor to MGS2, and is better written than any post-MGS3 kojimaslop
>>722621518It was already shit before then>endless exposition cutscenes that could be toned down to 2-3 minutes (fuck every Drebin and Naomi scene)>shit garbage scripted stealth >guards are completely blind and deaf during war sections>drebin shop literally just gives you infinite ammo for all lethal guns for basically free with no drawbacks (bafflingly dogshit mechanic)>tranq gun is more OP than ever (infinite suppressor and carries more ammo than ever) even tho aiming has never been easier>shit action setpieces like the palace shootout and turret sections that go on foreverI really hate when people praise Act 1 and 2. They suck fucking ass
Metal Gear was always bad since fuckin Machinegun Kid and Big Boss