>create a good emotional speech about murder and how it can affect the killer himself in the long term>btw never mind, rubber bullets. Saejima is a good boy and never killed anyoneWhat were they thinking?
>wow we really shouldn't make a murderous gang member be a hero.>Errr rubber bullets?>..Y-yes.. rubber bullets.
the rubber bullets twist was actually good and i am tired of pretending it's not
you're not supposed to take the game seriously, you're just meant to play the side stories and dick around. is what I was told by friends when I asked why the story is nonsense
>>722616769You should get a gig as a party clown and go to places to say this
>>722616390Daigo’s killed a lotta people and he’s considered a hero
tranny franchise
>>722616062Rule of thumb on yakuza games is that if you kill someone you're gonna get killed. They just didnt want to burn the saejima card too quickly
>>722617149Not only that he backstabbed people until yakuza 7 and was willing to let kiryu die for no fucking rason.Watch every kiwami 3-4-5 recton all his retarded actions.
>>722618040nah don't worry dark ties will do all the dirty work for that
>>722617230reddit niggers are so blind it's astounding. every interaction kiryu has with a fag or tranny is a textbook example of "do what you want with your life as long as you don't bother others" and that's it, which is what a majority of people believe in too. trannies have been getting too loud to ignore and have been influencing too much shit and that's why a majority of people at the very least dislike them now.
>>722618040Let’s not forget this man is considered one of the good guys now. I think at this point the Yakuza heroes aren’t allowed to kill rule no longer applies
>>722618193>a majority of people at the very least dislike them nowstill plenty of people out there who vehemently defend them as if they're their gods and think they have never ever done anything wrong or worthy of critique and that they're just misunderstood and want to "live their lives" as the gays used to say.
>>722618293mmm... blue eye blond haired white devil.... pls stay. japan women has good use of you, hai.
>>722616939>dude why is this story bad? >uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, shut up The logic of Yakuzafags, everyone.
>>722618367>people out there who vehemently defend them as if they're their godsand that's one of the main reasons the other people dislike them now, even if it weren't harmful (which it is), they are so fucking annoying.
>>722616769It's not. Logistically, there are numerous reasons why this shouldn't work. The bullets were chambered in a revolver so all it would take a glance and the plan would be ruined. Secondly there was no guarantee that they would use these revolvers alone, if Saejima say was opposed to using a gun or decided to use a knife or his bare hands as well the plan would be ruined. If at any point Saejima shot somone in the head and there wasn't an entry or exit wound the plan would be ruined. If Saejima tried to confirm any of the kills it would be ruined. If the less the lethal rounds maimed or even killed these eldery men the plan would be ruined. Now someone does come in and kill them anyways, this should invalidate the plan entirely since there is more than enough evidence to show there was a second attacker. In fact if they DIDN'T die right after the plan would be ruined because even the most incompetent investigator would be able to say "Hey wait a sec this wasn't even attempted murder" There's no guarantee that saejima once hearing that everyone is still alive and they were only shot with rubber bullet won't flip and go "Wait really? Kazuo's behind it all!" Katsuragi's plan fails if these less than lethal rounds don't magically knock everyone out. In fact if the plan from the start was to fake police reports and pin the murder on some random low rank grunt, it would be alot easier to just straight up tell saejima "hey you are taking the fall for this turn yourself in" or even better yet give him real bullets so there would be no reason to fake a police report and not involve yourself in the crime at all.
>>722618541That's why Judgment will always be the superior IP
>>722618193>”do what you want with your life as long as you don't bother others"Thats literally progressive tolerance bro.
>that soup splash when he shoots a guy in the headliteral kino of the highest order. the execution of the cutscene is top notch, i don't give a fuck if you consider the twist dumb
>>722618694>better yet give him real bullets so there would be no reason to fake a police report and not involve yourself in the crime at all.They couldn't do that because they needed him to shoot 20 men including Ueno and Katsuragi, so that Katsuragi would look like a victim in all of this. If Katsuragi tried to separate Ueno from his underlings and send someone to kill them, Ueno would have known right away that it was Katsuragi's power grab move.
>>722618694Don't forget when Arai shoots the corrupt police commissioner in the head point blank and still doesn't realize it was a rubber bullet and the commissioner is completely unharmed
The ethical side of this massacre is still yucky. He went inside with the intent of murdering mostly unarmed human beings and his arc is that... he wasn't the one to murder unarmed human beings, yet still went to prison for it. That's like a batch of Zyklon B being harmless laughing gas and the Nazi officer authorizing its release not being found guilty during the post-war trial.
>>722619537He attacked the leadership of a criminal syndicate as a member of the Tojo Clan, mere 5 years after organized crime division of the police authorized Tojo to murder all members of another criminal group.
>>722616062Why are the Yakuza devs so weird about characters killing people?
>>722619860Fujos.
>>722619860probably because the real yakuza is wanting to be portrayed in a better light, the world is run by criminals
>Guns down an innocent woman for no reason >But he’s redeemed now because he’s feeling le sad
I miss when this series was good bros
>>722620804yes. that's literal woman logic and how they function. this series was made for them specifically.
>>722619860Coincidentally, Suda51 explained it. Japan has very real media censorship and a policy of shaping public morals. After the Sakakibara incident (Kobe child murders) in 1997, there was a hardline stance about direct depictions of violence against humans and especially murders, sympathetic portrayal of killers or the ability to play as one. That moral panic lasted for many years, it was a major reason why Nagoshi had to fight tooth and nail to get the first Yakuza published.
>>722616390>wow we really shouldn't make a murderous gang member be a hero.Most yakuza villains have lower kill counts than yakuza protags
>>722622195>sympathetic portrayal of killersThis is blatantly false because there are many, MANY manga, anime and video games where they try to give a tragic backstory to a mass murder, outright forgive them or just forget it and they're good suddenly.
>>722618961Agreed, the scene itself is kino.
>>722616390>Let's make a game about criminal>But they never can do something bad due to being a criminal
IW was kino. Fuck all the haters.
>>722622557In case of Yakuza, they were broaching multiple taboo topics, not just murders. There's not a single mention of drugs across all these games, as that was the riskiest theme that could get the game shitcanned and get Sega's management in trouble.They recreated Kabukicho in spite of the Tokyo government forbidding them from depicting the city in a game about criminals. Kiwami 2 had the Sinseicho map removed because Osakan government and owners of the TV tower refused to renew the permit to depict it.Police generally prefers if people never mention yakuza or organized crime at all to avoid giving them any publicity just in case some impressionable teens would think they're cool and worth joining.Jingu as a corrupt politician got a pass because they created a completely fictional agency instead of showing some existing institution in a bad light and additionally it was counterbalanced by portrayals of honest, good and trustworthy cops, the implication being that public institutions are on the whole a force of good.
>>722623227It was a fun game but let's not kid ourselves. The story was complete garbage.
>>722616390>>722622809>Also let’s throw in a scene where he contemplates raping a little girl
>>722623416After 25 years in prison, it's a normal reaction to at least get flustered and excited when you see a girl
>>722622557In Japan you can be convicted for CP and be let off pretty easy and theres no social stigma against you. Japan is weird
>>722623413>The story was complete garbage.No, it fucking wasn't.
>>722623764lmfao
>>722623471But not a child
>>722623764explain why
>>722624091>>722624182
>>722624281Because people who aren’t pedophiles aren’t attracted to children
>>722624634and people that fuck dudes in prison didn't always enter gaybut when its been 20 years you make compromises
>>722624634And people who aren't homosexuals won't have gay butt sex but 25 years of loneliness do things with u that u wouldn't believe...
>>722616062they really rode the soap opera thing for 3 and 4, not to say it wasn't there before and after but it was heavily in effect and soap operas love absolutely nonsensical last second twists.
>>722624867Compromises, you say?
>>72262510120 years in the can. I wanted lines of fugu. I compromised. I ate hyper-realistic bread physics off the radiator instead.
>>7226250363 is nothing like 4 and doesn't have all those last second twists. It was the ending of 2 that dragged on forever with rematches and more villains coming out of nowhere.
>>7226260413 and 4 were very different in that sense but the way they handled the drama was very over the top. I liked 3 a lot more than 4 but both felt notably different from one and two in tone.
>>722624091>>722624634>14 years old>child
>>722616062He still went in with every intention to kill people and lived with the idea that he did for 25 years, hence his speech. I don't think rubber bullets takes away from his character as much as people think it does.
>>722626805Yes, you sick fuck
>>722616769Rubber bullets is a bad twist... but the people who act like they're smarter than the game for pointing it out are retarded.Rubber bullets was a bad plan IN-UNIVERSE. It being so easily disproven is exactly why the people who planned it ended up under the main antagonist's thumb.
>>722625980I wamted to fuck a woman. I compromised.I spent an hour hallucinating I was in a hostess club.
>>722616062>rubber bulletsMeanwhile Majima solos a fucking kraken in Pirates.
>>722618961nobody will argue that the scene isn't one of the best choreographed moments in series history.
>>722627898KEK
>>722620390The Yakuza hasn't been relevant or held any real power in Japan since the end of the 90s.
>>722628040he also fights zombies in dead souls, why mention spinoffs?
>>722619860>Why are the Yakuza devs so weird about characters killing people?Perhaps it might have to do with real Yakuza being part of Sega. We know the Yakuza was involved with Konami not that long ago.
>>722619102He shot him in the chest, but yes that's the real problem with rubber bullets. Not that Arai didn't realize it, but that no one cared about a gunshot in the police HQ.
Kiryu 100% murders people in every gameUnless you're telling me this is a rubber Stinger Missle that shoots down this helicopter
>>722630317He was a confirmed killer in original Y2. During his second visit in Sotenbori, there are some bystanders on the boardwalk who say that suddenly there's a lot of dead bodies washing up from the river.
>>722623416Watch the scene again. Taiga Saejima zones the fuck out when he accidentally falls into that position. Cinematically it is cleverly done because you have no idea if Saejima is a monster due to the subtle body language he gives off, plus the little information you know about him at that point in his story.
Are there any seedy or Yakuza heavy areas of Japan in 2025 or is that all over
>>722624634Then why are most anime and manga centered around sexy little girls? Who is the audience funding this billion dollar Japanese export?
>>722631129Yakuza is down to under 3000 members across the whole country. Pachinko parlors are on their way out. Most facets of crime are taken over by foreigners who aren't prosecuted nearly as much as domestic criminals. Jap criminals don't get their hands dirty anymore, they make more and much safer money scamming demented boomers over the phone.
>>722631129I've heard it's over because cameras are everywhere in Japan, meaning it's harder for yakuza to operate on the street like they used to. Also, big money had moved online, so I wouldn't be surprised they've moved to other ventures that are easier to evade the authorities.
>>722631316>foreigners who aren't prosecuted nearly as much as domestic criminalsSource? Why would they be prosecuted less? Wouldn't it be easier to prosecute them since you could just get them on violating some visa condition and deport them or something
>>722631129"Seedy" is relative in Japan, even the worst nightlife area will still have less crime overall than the average nighttime commercial area in any mid-size American town. The yakuza were on a stiff decline when the very first Yakuza game came out, and have fallen off a cliff since around 2008-2011.
>>722616062>What were they thinking?They didn't want to throw Saejima away at the end of the game and if he did actually kill those people he would have just been put back on his death sentence, so they came up with the rubber bullets plot point to keep his story as it was (mostly) but also to keep him as a character going forward
>>722631450>Wouldn't it be easier to prosecute them since you could just get them on violating some visa condition and deport them or somethingThat's exactly why they're not formally prosecuted, because it's easier to just informally kick them out of the country and put them on a no-entry list instead of tying up the courts with a lengthy prosecution.
>>72263145010% of Japan's population is now immigrants, mostly from China, Korea, SEA and India. They get the kiddie glove treatment for the same exact reason why Merkelmen walk free after having sexual emergencies while angry whites go to prison over complaining about shitskins on facebook.
>>722616390>hmm I want to kill all my superiors to take their place... oh I know, I'll get a rival clan to carry out a shootout... Wait I should be at the shooting myself otherwise I might look suspicious...>let me ensure the hitman has real bullets so I can be shot and killed otherwise he might look like a pussy!Genius! The plan is bad within the story, it's something that's drawn upon and the entire reason Munakata is involved.
>>722631551If you look at deportation stats from any country, they're usually able to deport a couple thousand immigrants per year. Japan is now importing ~150k shitskins annually and increasing that figure year on year. Part of the deportation figures are not criminal caught red-handed per se but those who overstayed their visas and failed a document checkup.Even so, a country that imports 150k criminals every year, while also dealing with many millions of those who came earlier, has no realistic way of tackling that problem. Can't put them all in prison, can't afford mass deportations, can't just kill them like pests. By comparison, the meek and obedient natives make an easy target.
>>722632769>all legal immigrants are criminalsk
>>722616769The smoothest of brains. Acquire some wrinkles, bro
>>722624091That was the point isn't it? Everything in his life pushed Saejima to be a despicable animal, but at that moment he refused to be one
>>722631129There's a lot more unorganized gangs just cause there's no overhead. You're more likely to see a random weapons peddler with no affiliation than in the older days.
>>722616062I don't care he is a bad character and he is also a pedophile >>722623416>>722624182>>722624867You are degenerates and shouldn't be treated as humans.>>722619860It's Japanese media in general. They are so cucked that the idea of a main character or a hero killing people in cold blooded is seen as a flaw. Why do you think most of the revenge stories in Japan are all about forgiving and letting go? They are massive betas.
>>722623471No it's not unless you are a rabbid animal that should be put down.
>>722626805>MOM LOOK I'M BEING AN EDGY PEDO ON 4CHIN
>>722616062I wonder if Nagoshi would get executed if the yakuza were portrayed more like violent psychopaths
>>722634072>T low test
>>722634404Say that to my face and you'll see how "low T" I am tough poster from /v/
>>722634468t. Low T
>>722634267He would have to set these games a few decades earlier for it to be accurate. Fun stuff. Nagoshi's father was up to his ears in gambling debts. Toshi probably saw men in funny suits coming to his house many times.
>>722634468Oh no anon-sama please, don't hurt me :(
>>722634714It's easy acting like this behind the screen. Mike Tyson was right. The internet made people more comfortable about not being punched in the face.
I'm doing the substories of every game, already did k1,k2,4,5I'm on 0 and holy shit, it's so boring to max out every hostessWhy forcing to do a round of the minigame between every special training ?7 level for each 6 hostess, 42 round minimum, 3 minute for a roundThat 126 minutes just of the minigame I already finished, you also need to add the time in the menu, loading, the special training itself...
>>722634774Not him but both of you could have the exact same flabby body type. You pretending like you'd do anything is no different from him pretending to be an anime girl.
>>722634404>being a wild beast is high TlollmaoHit the gym
>>722634774The mighty sharty that haxed and humiliated 4chins was afraid to raid KC because unlike guys attracted to hebes in here, there are real pedos over there who would unleash CP dumps on sharty. And I mean real stuff with toddlers, not some jailbaits. Branch out to some fringe image boards and start appreciating the calm and polite company you can find on 4/v/.
>>722635021I do boxing, I'm not even joking.
>>722635107Mate I don't give a single fuck about what kind of species of pedo you are, you are all the same meat to me. Now try to act like a cocky pedo outside 4chan, you can't. Fuck, I bet you are one of those who act like moralfags outside here.
>>722635120Yeah and I do Mad Dog of Shimano, not even joking
>>722616062Saejima believed the bullets were real so his experience as a "murderer" is still valid.He still carried that guilt.
>>722634774Please anon, you're a internet imageboardYou're either obese or a squeletton, you aren't a strong guy, same for me
>>722635232See now you are acting childish. You know what I wouldn't even bother because I know I would probably meet a retaded manchild who would be scared shitless in an actual real life confrontation.
>>722635297There's a literal board dedicated for gymfags, lurk moar.
>>722635326You wouldn't do shit irl lmaoYou would lower your gaze and goback to your mom's basement
>>722627898okay the rubber bullets was retarded, but really, what the actual fuck were they thinking with this
>>722635390Yes anon but we are on the videogame board for now
>>722635391I do actual sports like boxing and have a healthy working out routine. What do you have aside from spending all day here bragging about being a pedo? Shitposting here is all more of a side activity right before I go to bed.
>>722635470So what? People of all kinds enjoy games.
>>722635490You're getting a bit carried away. Empathizing with a guy who spent his entire adult life being an incel in the slammer isn't what I'd call bragging about being a pedo.
>>722635547yes but no point discussing it on an imageboard, especially a game released on ps3 made on the other side of the world and having had so little success elsewhere that the sequel came out 3 years after the Japanese release
>>722635662Being in jail for several years isn't an excuse to be a wild animal who assaults girls. We can agree to disagree but having some 4chan incel pedo wannabe call me low t is hysterical, that's the thing.>>722635738No problem.
>>722635490>I-I-I d-do shit irl l-like... S-s-sport and Inm a s-strong guyNobody care faggot
>>722635793>Nobody care
>>722635793You called me low t, gave you a reason for being opposite and now you act like a hysterical girl who is annoyed by an actual response. I wouldn't be surprised if you were on estrogen like most fags here to be honest.
>>722635778>assaults girlsSaejima didn't, he just felt on her, looked at her for 10 sec and then stopped himself
>>722635863>T.low t
>>722636024You know what the scene was meant to convey anon.
>>722636117Yes, Saejima have every reason to act like a savage beast and yet he don't
>>722636196He really doesn't. Again, being horny as fuck isn't an excuse to assault little girls or female in general.
>>722635120>i'm a retard that doesn't use half of the weapons permanently at my disposalk?
>>722636248>assaultAgain he didn't assaulted Haruka, he just felt on her by accident
>>722636263Boxing per se isn't for brawling. It's a noble sport but it does help you take and give punches on top on keeping you in shape if you go for a strict diet.
>>722633978>It's Japanese media in general. They are so cucked that the idea of a main character or a hero killing people in cold blooded is seen as a flaw. Why do you think most of the revenge stories in Japan are all about forgiving and letting go? They are massive betas.Wrong. They are extremely petty and vengeful. Cultures seem to hold up attributes they lack as an ideal. Its my American leftist always talk about tolerance and acceptance while being incredibly closeminded. And my the conservative always talk about chastity while being porn addicted pedophiles.
>>722636248>He really doesn't>Being behind bar for 25 isn't a reason for a man to become crazy and to have little to no control on his emotion
>>722636385Yes.
>>722636302And why did he cry anon? Because he felt on her? lol
>>722631316>Pachinko parlors are on their way out.LOL
>>722619860The Stranger Than Heaven protagonist can outright kill people, if the player chooses.
>>722636340yeah idk why the guy is trying to act tough with it, not that hard to slam a steel toe into someones crotch then choke them out in less than 10 seconds but i'm happy he knows how to throw a punch? lmao
>>722636535because he hasn't felt a woman's skin for 25 years, yes haruka is 14 but saejima just got out of prison, he has problems controlling his emotions after so much time, he could rape her and she wouldn't be able to do anything, he could act like the beast he's called and yet he refuses and act like a human being insteadthe tears are because he surprises himself staying 10 seconds above haruka contemplating the idea of doing what his base instincts tell him instead of getting up directly, he realizes that the prison completely changed him
>>722636793Retard, that's me. Also yeah if you are a cowardly nigger or a tranny I would expect people to use anything but fists and kicks.
>>722636829Bohoho the poor guy had the urge to be a wild animal but resisted, how admirable. Again, if you are a decent man you don't get to contemplate at all.
>>722636857It's a street fight. Anything goes. Boxing is better than nothing but adhering to its tenets are liable to get you killed.
>>722636950Don't know what third world country you are from but where I am from men fight each other hand to hand with no bullshit if they got beef.
>>722636919After 25 years in prison, specially japanese prison, yes it ishe is free for the first time, he can choose for himself what to do and yet he acted like a human
>>722637062It can be more, as I said if you are a man of caliber you don't even go ape mode just for seeing a woman for the first time. We are humans, not animals.
>>722636857if you or anyone else ever attacks for me no reason other than your own pathetic fragile ego i'm kicking you in the nuts and biting til i draw blood faggot"i box and i'm not even joking" was just code for "i'm an aggressive subhuman looking for any excuse to hurt someone" why tf you bringing up sports to intimidate people online you loser
>>722637195>i'm kicking you in the nuts and biting til i draw blood faggotYouWouldn'tDoShit
>>722637195>claims he is gonna kick people in the nuts>calls others faggotsNever cease to amaze me anon. Also I only claimed what I do because someone claimed I was low t for telling him being in prison for years wasn't an excuse to assault girls.
>>722630317The Helicopter is made of rubber.
>>722636540Sega's last fiscal report said as much. Sammy and their pachinkos are dying, Sega is keeping them on life support out of gratitude that Sammy bailed them out way back when.Parlors had been closing down since the bubble popped in '89, then covid lockdowns accelerated it in the last few years. Like western casinos, it's something played by old people. Younger generations gamble on their phones.
>>722637312>doesn't dispute the violent subhuman partinteresting
>>722637393That's not me, retard lol
Yakuza Dead Souls is the last good Yakuza game. Now go emulate Dead Souls.
>>722630317Even in 0 he kill dozens of peoples during the car chase
>>722631648Completely false, its 4%. Hence the reason Ishiba stepped down, because of the constant anti immigration protests.
>>722637393Nobody care faggot, it's a thread about yakuza 4 and yet you made it your personal blog about how good you are ar sport, how you would beat our assBut nobody care, and you wouldn't do shit irl you low T
>>722637393>>722637796You two are so retarded you are insulting each other instead of me LMAO
>>722637865>he thinks that's meyou replied to the wrong person you noob
>>722637679rubber car accidentsrubber helicopter crash
>>722637915you think that's me? hah that was a rubber post jail for 25 years
>>722637725Neto-uyos also count Zainichi Koreans, Chuka-kei and brown kids from mixed marriages.
>>722637679if they're chinese it doesn't count
the biggest plot hole in yakuza is the psyop of pretending that haruka isn't the least attractive woman in yakuza 5
>>722637385>Like western casinos, it's something played by old people. Younger generations gamble on their phonesThat's the killer right here. You can gamble in your own home, or at any time of the day. Why in the fuck would a gambling firm want expensive real estate anymore when the young generations don't have to go out anymore.
>>722638557>Reveals that Kiryu is both a yakuza and the man that has been taking care of her, effectively ruining everything for herself and the orphanage kids>Runs away>Lets the first dude that treats her well creampie her>Has his mutt kid>Gets run overShe is also the stupidest character in the entire franchise's history.
>>722639368Haruka shot all the people in Bantam.
>>722618193>do what you want with your life as long as you don't bother othersApparently just existing already bothers a certain subsection of subhumans which is why we're having this conversation in the first place.
>>722638557it will be revealed later on by yokoyama that she IS actually his biological daughter, after all.
>>722631301That just means everyone in Japan is a pedo
>>722618040>all his retarded actionsKiryu is actually fucking retarded and i bet 100% that Daigo was the one keeping the orphanage afloatKiryu quite literally did not last a single day on the job, he doesnt know shit, he handed Daigo a clan thats too big to sustain itself with its operations, Daigo repeatedly said that the clan is bankrupt and hes trying his best to keep it afloat and at the same time keeping a horde of retarded yakuzas from dissolving into street gangsHe sells out Majima to the cops (something thats normal for the Yakuza to do, send a big name to prison to keep operations going in a deal with the cops, something that the Tojo did with Kazama) solely to keep the clan aliveEven in 5 where hes somehow keeping the clan alive by a fucking miracle because they were broke as hell in 4, and even asks Kiryu for advice, Kiryu just tells him to fuck offDaigo was handed the shittiest platter of a job in the entire franchise and he somehow managed to pull trough until the story was forced to adapt to irl changesTldr Daigo is a fucking hero in this house
>>722640807Which is why he wrote a letter (IIRC) to daigo apologizing for his mishaps in the past games and how he burdened him with responsibility and essentially made him sink or swim (and occassionally bailing him out in between the games after the fuck ups have happened). I think it was on LaD gaiden or IW. He also treats him like his "son" and how he is proud of him.
What are your guys thoughts on the #REMOVEKAGAWA movement?
>>722616062Reminder Kiryu as never killed anyone.
>>722641038It actually was the part of the emotional climax of yakuza 6.
>>722640807>i bet 100% that Daigo was the one keeping the orphanage afloatIt's all but confirmed. Daigo bought the deed to the land from Nakahara. Later there's that part where Haruka thinks Kiryu and Rikiya are struggling to pay the bills, but it turns out it concerned the Ryudo office, not the orphanage. Meaning someone unrelated to Ryudo paid their bills.
>>722627421>>722634170Children are 12 and under. Above that they're teens you retarded mongloids. Let me guess you think 14 is too young to have sex but they're old enough to get hormone therapy
>>722631129All the smart guys in the yakuza went legit into big companies, the ones who couldnt count beans got fucked
it keeps happening
>>722641043Damn guess it only exists on twitter....
>>722622195All of Suda's games are about sympathetic psychopaths and serial killers though
>>722641043I don't like the new actor but I don't want him removed because it's hilarious seeing normalfags mad. They'll buy it anyway.
>>722616062Idk but he based because he's a cunnychad.Regardless I want to play as Tanimura again like holy fuck RGG let me play as young ikemen again. Stop with the old fucks.
>>722642286Sometimes I wish I had a reddit or twitter account for occasions like these. All the asshurt could be greatly multiplied if femishits were made aware of who played the original Hamazaki, and that they're stuck without any good choice here.
>>722641218>the bait and switch of at first looking like the letter is addressed to HarukaNgl i raffed
>>722642551My problem with it isnt Hamazaki having a different voice but that he looks like a wimp nowNu Hamazaki does not look like a wannabe JAV pornstar, he does not look like he can eat a whole ducks head in one bite, he does not look like he can survive falling from the walls of a max security blacksite into crashing wavesI wouldnt mind Hamazaki looking different, but he needs to look like a thug
>>722642768They could have also kept his appearance while hiring a new voice actor, but nooo. Yokoyama dropped another bomb after TGS, on Miyasako's YT show.https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1759759782>Yakuza representative Yokoyama: "Miyasako is the only one who can play Kanda in Yakuza 3. If we change him, we'll be betraying the fans."
>>722641043Doesn't feel very genuine. I think people are just upset about the recasts (justified) and they're using this as an excuse to feel morally superior about it (not so justified). I can't imagine the response would be the same if he was a new character
>>722620804This was so fucking bizarre to me. Not only does he kill a woman in front of Kiryu without retaliation, but they try to redeem him, in front of a character who doesn’t know him, in a way that doesn’t make any sense, that doesn’t redeem him at all anyways. Did I fucking miss something? It’s been a while.I think it’s as retarded as rubber bullets but makes even less sense.At least the guy in 3 became a hobo, went to prison and learned the power of friendship after blowing up a chinamen.
>>722616062Then in 5 he says getting killes just means you're weak.
>>722618040people have been idolizing rats as long as media have been around to glamorize themlook at >the sopranos>sammy the bull>michael francezethe consensus is always>hehe criminality cool>but only when it affect us!
>>722627898>I spent an hour hallucinating I was in a hostess clubI vaguely remember something like this, what exactly was this about?
>>722643225>Murders a woman in front of Kiryu>Kiryu doesn’t care for some reason>Majima beats him up>Suddenly realizes his entire worldview is wrong and dies protecting Majima
>>722645789Saejimas prison pals using schizophrenia to collectively hallucinate a trip to Sapporo in Yakuza 5
>>722643225JP culture basically has a belief that if your last action before you died is honorable/for the greater good then all your past sins are absolved/ it turns neutral, neither positive nor negative. This is why they used to? have harakiri wherein a person kills themself in a ritualistic way to "preserve their/their family's honor". It's why it's a very common trope in JP games/literature for former villains to sacrifice themselves for the "protagonists"/someone else to justify them getting "redeemed"
People meme on and on about rubber bullets, but honestly, for as stupid and blatantly sparing for Saejima it is, at least it makes contextual sense in its story: three retards with high resources and good connections concoct an ambitious plan full of holes and are immediately fucked over for fulfilling it. The stupidity of the entire thing straight up dictates the entire rest of the plot, so as bad as it is, it "makes sense".There's no real excusing secret Koreans, beautifur eyes CIA twin brother, trying to assassinate a pop idol teen out of all the evil things a bad guy can do or the Aizawa reveal, and so much other shit in this series. Rubber bullets is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real bad examples.>Kiryu, how did you get cancer? From all that smoking?>Nah. Cartoon barrels of radiation.
>>722646775Also makes sense with Saejima because he's extremely old school. So a soldier blindly following orders getting fucked by a new generation of shitbags is the entire theme of Yakuza. Nothing beats mirror face to me
>>722646775uhhhhhhhhh actually they never said what the definitive cause to his cancer was! it only might have been the radioactive waste!!
>>722631316That makes me wonder what is even the future of the series. Yakuzas as crime organizations are pretty much dead both in the games and in real life. Plots of Infinite Wealth and Pirate in Hawaii clearly showed that Yokoyama doesn't fucking know what to do now with the series now
>>722649271I feel like they're going to go back to the daidoji plot point
>>722616062You could say that... we must be better yakuza.
>>722637385Younger people are also poorer. Too much wealth is rotting with old people
>>722646575>hallucinate a trip to Sapporo in Yakuza 5It was astral projection. If you do the karaoke when "hallucinating" the scores will mysteriously appear later on when being there for real.
>>722617230
>>722649852They're going to have to explain the Daidoji's comeback from their massive downswing in Infinite Wealth, where their political power has evaporated and they basically can't enforce anything outside of preventing Kiryu from seeing Haruka.I do want to see what becomes of Shishido forced into glownigger service.
>>722641043I don't care about it, I just want the old face in, same for Rikiya
>>722616062TRULY IT WAS NAGOSHI WHO WAS THE MASTERMNIND IN DELIVERING SUCH INTRICATE STORYLINES LIKE YAKUZA 4
>>722634985Some of the requirements for filling the completion list in every game are just giant time sinks when you would've otherwise long since finished everything it had to offer. Some other egregious examples would be maxing out the rank in 6's spear fishing and buying every component in Lost Judgment's robotics club (you can only buy parts with club budget earned from robot battles, can't just use your own money).
>>722649271The Daidoji will form a new Yakuza using the ones they've kidnapped as puppet leaders so they can control the underground crime scene as well. Ichiban fights them and causes the third great dissolution
>>722642768>Hamazaki wearing a tie>Hamazaki buttons his shirt all the way up>Hamazaki without a gold chain>Hamazaki without his big eyebrows and eyes that you don't know if he despises you or will kill you in a second
>>722646775I finished yakuza 5 yesterdayWhy the detective who wanted to kill Kiryu, well, didn't kill Kiryu ? He still had a bullet, and there was another dude with a gun by his side
>>722623332What about Judgment where the Health Ministry is corrupt?
>>722651903Dude in the right is a literal chink in a suit
Can we admit most yakuza games have a shit story, and I mean a really shit story? Even for vidya standards?
>>722651868>completion list in every game are just giant time sinksThat why I only stick to substories, big minigame (clan creator in k2, even if not substories was linked to it) and coliseumMaybe the lockers's key (with a map)But I will not learn majong, I will not waste 30 hours on bowling, dart, golf, blackjack, poker, koikoi, baseball, fishing... In each gameI will not waste time to "kill 300 ennemies with this style you don't like"
>>722623471I feel that all the time and never got arrested once.Not underage ones, though.
>>722652197Yeah, man, it's a game, not a contractual obligation.This weird obsession in 100% games you're not interested in 100% is achievement's greatest crime against assburgerkind.
>>722652197Hey now.Koikoi is actually pretty damn fun. It's just about the only gambling minigame that's mostly skill and strategy based rather than just pressing the button until you finally get a payout.I'm glad of all the games to bring over to the dragon engine, they chose it over those fucking boring dice games.
>>722638543Or Brazilian
>>722652534Brazilians are one of the largest foreign community in Japan.Nips got tricked into moving there en masse in the 19th Century, then their offspring went back.Why are there none in yakuza games? A lot of material for chinpira thugs.
Saejima is one of the most kino characters with one of the best track, heres the obligatory :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEDgCArd7Mo&list=RDGEDgCArd7Mo&start_radio=1
>>722641043always go all in on nothing ever happeningonly chance he gets the boot is if general sentiment for it spreads to jp twitter, but idk how much they even care about him in the first place lol
I wish for a Yakuza game set in the 90's, with a new protagonistA real yakuza game about yakuza, not ex/punished/banished yakuza such as Kiryu, Majima, Saejima, IchibanI want to play a yakuza doing yakuza thing, forcing shops to pay protection, delling drugs, managing a pachinko house, a brothel, selling jav...
Yakuza's a blast as a game but goddamn, Kiryu's fuckin' nuts. Guy acts like he wants that quiet family life but nah, he's always knee-deep in brawls and bullshit. That's just the yakuza vibe or what?
>>722641043Who cares? Jews in Hollywood rape both adults and kids, and those people consume their slop like crazy.And here's a drunk tard being a violent with a whore and suddenly they have the need to boycott and have an outrage.
>>722653926It's the equivalent of a YouTuber stopping, coming back to criticize everyone without providing any solutions, stopping again, coming back because everything is even shittier than the last time, etc. Every game is like that, Kiryu will go "for the last time" and then end Kiryu stops Nishiki and leaves, he comes back, the city is besieged by Koreans, including the guy he put in charge of the Tojo, bombers and the OMI alliance, he leaves and comes back and suddenly there is talk of a secret society wanting to steal a weapon and the FBI fighting against them, he leaves and comes back and it is Daigo, the one he put on the throne who is doing shit, he leaves and becomes a depressed taxi driver, he leaves and plays dead then gets cancerIt get worse and worse
https://litter.catbox.moe/70lzjdp975qdvtc7.mp4
>>722633978>media pushing forgiving and letting goyea, who do you think lobbied japs like this? any idea?you dumb nigger
>>722650642And they cut this line in the remaster, lmao
>>722649271Happy silly fun time in japan/hawaii: the series. They would like to distance it from icky violent crime organizations.
>>722616062because they want their shonen heroes to be blameless and morally clean. thats why the current generation of protagonists dont kill, when Jump heroes like Kenshiro kill men, now Naruto hasnt even killed anyone
>>722619860They have strange logic over there. I'm not sure how rubber bullets exonerate a man who had every intention of murdering everyone.
>>722657156It doesn't. But it's the difference between the death penalty and serving 25 years
>>722657156Even though Saejima fully intended to murder everyone there is basically turns it from "First degree murder" to "Attempted murder". It places the blame square on Katsuragi since he was the one who shot them all in the end even if Saejima set them up for it.
>>722616062>Rubber Man
>>722616939You are not, but one ought to and people would, if the devs wouldn't be mindless corpo drones.
>>722633978Forgiving people who wronged you takes a hell of a lot more strength than holding a grudge forever.
>>722617230Except not. Early yakuza made fun of them.>>722618753And the shortest, too.
>>722621876This can't be denied. Latest yakuza 3 had women in mind as main target group.
>>722649271Daidoji will be the main antagonists of 9 based on 7G's setup and 8.Going forward you can have Daidoji remnants for a game or two trying to push certain things that benefit stragglers who were in the shadows or something meaning it's tied to some specific governmental department like BP1, JE, or LJ.After that it's likely going to be upstart gang groups like RK just without the government meddling or foreign mafia since the Jingweon still have a hard on for Kamurocho and the Triads still want to get into Japan even if Yuta's dead is now dead. They lost a lot of their "ins" when Lao Ka Long's operation shut down, Big Lo's operation died, and the Liumang are seemingly just floating around at this point.
>>722623471the idea that urges keep building up for decades is a retarded meme for idiotsafter a few months you reach a state of zen and get over it
I thought I was getting bored of Kiryu after playing every previous Yakuza game but after finishing chapter 11 of IW I'm looking forward playing Kiryu chapters more than Ichiban ngl. Honestly Yamai is the only interesting part of Honolulu
>>722658225It took only two games for Ichiban to get flanderized
Where's the dragon of kansai hiding?
>>722658595Kamurocho.
>>722623471>25 years in prisonMADE HIM A FUCKING PUSSY
>>72265866718?
>>722658652That's not a scene form yakuza 3 unfortunately.
>>722658667Nishiki did absolutely nothing wrong
>>722657196>>722657525Right that's the law side of it but the game and apparently the japanese devs want us to feel differently about Saejima because nobody died that day by his hand.....even though he tried to kill everyone and he thought he did.
>>722659789It's not just the law side of it, that's how they want you to perceive it. Saejima didn't end up killing anyone even though he led to their deaths. His hands are clean compared to Katsuragi.
>>722622809All of the Like a Dragon protagonists are ex-criminals. Having the title be Yakuza in burgerland was very misleading.
>>722659789I don’t know how long attempted murder sentences are in Japan but 20 years probably covers it.
>>722616062This wouldn't have happened under Nagoshi.
>>722661194nagoshi is a faggot
>>722623592ofc, they're not christcucks
>>722660689There’s TanimuraI don’t remember if Akiyama was actually convicted or just gotten fired as a scapegoat
>>722651657what is 4d
>>722662569Tanimura is a corrupt cop but it’s ok because he’s just negligent and he loves muh immigrants.Akiyama was a banker which is far worse than a Yakuza.
>>722663416He takes no interest at all.
>>722657784Shut the fuck up pussy.
>>722662336>christcuck out of nowhereYou Lord hating trannoids are so obvious to spot.
>>722616062They weren't thinking it at all. The rubber bullets fiasco fucking destroyed Saejima as a character in his own debut story and the entire drug scandal in real life forcing them to remove Tanimura ruined all of their long term plans for 4 onwards and everyone knows it.Only Akiyama got out of Yakuza 4 and 5 spotless as a character other than Kiryu, but by the end of 5 their plans for the 4 Eastern Beasts theme went flying out of the fucking window due to stupidity, over reaction and consistently lowered budgets thanks to lower and lower sales. They could never aim and actually land for once above their own quality and effort.Kiwami 4 and 5 is going to be VERY interesting to see, if they ever happen. I wouldn't be shocked if a ton of people want them to fucking fix the rubber bullet plot twist.
>>722664952>the self righteous pedophobe on 4chan is a christrannyfigures
>>722646775I've kinda just stopped caring about the plots about these games and am only invested in the characters at this point since those are typically fun.Except in Majima Gaiden, fuck that game.
>>722665681>pedo who hates Christ is also a troonLike poetry
>>722650528WHY HAVE THEY BEEN HIDING THIS POWER?
>Get to final boss>Its "that" guy>"Why are you the final boss?">"... I don't know."Yakuza 5 was a special game.
>>722667867funnily enough Aizawa wasn't planned to be the final boss until some ways until development.actually the final boss wasn't planned at all from the start, I couldn't tell you when they decided to lock in on Aizawa being the last dude but in general as the number one yakuza hater said "Every final boss in this game felt like "oh shit we need a final boss for this character, uhhhhhh let's use this guy"
>>722667867I like it, its just a guy who grinded in the coliseum for days hoping to get enough levels to beat up Hyper Kiryu, he doesnt give a fuck about the plot, he just wants to beat Kiryu
>>722667867>What if Aizawa had good writing?
>>722667867And why the FUCK did his actual boss fight go so hard?
>>722668548Learnkng Gaiden was written after IW gave me hope for the future of the series
>>722667867>what are you doing here?Idk xD just am
>>722667867His grandfather is the guy from strange heaven, isn't he?
>>722668612>all the scene transition qtes are kiryu literally throwing him out of the clan, physically pushing him away from him goal, his "yume" if you willAs dumb as the whole plot is, the fight itself is genuine kino
>>722667867>"Why are you the final boss?">"... I don't know."Nothing can match the absurd lunacy of this series sometimes, i swear to god.
>>722668548I really want to see him return, fun character
>>722639368Haruka is very such like Kiryu: Run away from all your problems and then come back to try and fix the problems that only exist because you ran from them
>>722669421He's not dead, is he?I like the series, but was very dissapointed by iw. Doesn't feel like a full game, just like a holiday adventure spin-off.
>>722669535The least Kiryu could’ve done was name a successor before he ditched the clan
>>722619860The same reason the Godfather movies portrayed the mafia as being classy, intelligent, smooth talking operators: members of the real crime syndicates were involved in the production.
>>722669731He was kidnapped by the Daidoji, same with Nishitani III. They're likely agents of theirs now.
>>722620390The series always show how garbage the organization is though
>>722668548Shishido benefited from the short length of Gaiden, he was there making his presence felt for most of the game.Unlike Ryuji who disappears for most of 2 and the other leutenants from 0 that aren't Kuze.
Yakuza just got too dumb.
>>722670879That would be awesome. I'd like to play as villain of the genre. They might go that way, now that mine is likely alive.
>>722620804He wasn't redeemed.
>>722673315>me when I'm a lying dumb nigger
>>722668989I too saw the youtube analysis of 4 hours
>>722621876>woman logicWhy is there always that one incel poster who says this?
I bought Judgement, Lost Judgement, and the dlc before the steam sale ended.Although… fuck… I really should get back to Infinite Wealth. I got burnt out after ignoring the story to do Sujimon for hours, and then unlocked job switching, hated all of them, and haven’t played since.
>>722675834Start with judgment. Both games have fantastic stories, maybe the best in the series.Sujimon are just goofy.
>>722675080the fuck are you talking about
>>722676474https://youtu.be/-MD_UD2QLhA
>>722675594>woman get beaten by cheating bf>he feels bad he changed!>get back to him>repeat til dead or she stop being a fucking retardits not a incel its common sense if you leave your cave
>>722677407If that kind of thing is happening regularly to women in your life, I have to wonder which of us really lives in a cave.
>>722677407What are you saying, women tend to stay with men who beat them?
What if in the next Yakuza game Ichiban brings back the yakuza under the Tojo banner again to oppose the Daidoji?
>>722677645If they even fucking mention the Tojo clan in the next game I'M gonna try to kill Kiryu.
>>722677642yes>>722677562not regulary but enough common to listen to stories of friendsproblem when yo go out partying a lot in a isle, everyone knows everyone
>>722677081what kind of autism compels someone to make a 7 hour long video about a single videogameand what kind of autism compels someone to actually watch this
>>722661194Are you retarded? Nagoshi was still with them till 7, that is 4 or 5 games after when the rubber bullets happened
>>722677841>what kind of autism compels someone to make a 7 hour long video about a single videogamethe "it's either this or working in a warehouse to pay rent" tism
>>722677407>oh no there are some girls who are mentally ill and self destructive!>ALL WYMINYes you are an incel.
>>722677841Despite the best efforts of a lot of great writers over a good period of time, people are still hung up on the idea that all art is just some kind of mysterious puzzle that the creator means for you to "solve", because that's how this kind of shit is taught in schools for some reason.Nobody can just enjoy something, they need it "explained" because they don't have any kind of confidence in their own ability to just experience and interpret something.
>>722674925How was he redeemed? He explained why he became a hedonistic piece of shit. He briefly stood up and did one good thing with his life because it talked to his sense of honor. That doesn't make him a good person. Even Kuze, arguably the least bloodthirsty here, went to jail.
>>722646775it's so silly that the cancer wasn't the smoking after how much emphasis gaiden put on kiryu's smoking in the cutscenes. I guess it's because they have sponsorships from cigarette companies and got scared about it.
>>722677797Thought that's a known fact
>>722677841I don't know why you poorfags with one screen or family PC always think anybody actually sits down and watches this, same as with streams, unless you are a chat spamming zoomer, most people just want background noise about shit they like while doing other things, be it grindan in some mmo or doing taxes.Moms have been watching shitty sitcoms and talk shows for decades while ironing clothes.
>>722678061i didn't say all women retard
>>722678375>people just want background noiseMuch worse than being a healthy poor fag, being a creature that can't stand itself. Kek, reminds me of gollum.>family PCBoomer detected. That ain't a thing anymore. Even poor people swim in electronic devices.
>>722678820projecting are we? How dumb are you that listening to something drowns out your own thoughts lmao
>>722631450Yeah, they just get deported and then sneak back in then get deported again.
>>722657042Naruto killed Yura>inb4 fags move goal post
>>722679421who the fuck is yura?
>>722617230>the franchise is bad because reddit likes itWho gives a fuck what some subhumans on reddit likes or dislikes
>>722679620Jonin from the sand village
>>722679736it was filler? i dont remember himnot trying to disagree anyway
>>722679832It wasn't filler. Naruto killed him in shippuden when gaar was kidnapped. Naruto did a rasagan on Itachi but it was actually Yura
>>722680039oh thanks. as you can see i forgotdidn't he also killed that guy with a bunch of hearts?
>>722680851Naruto use wind style rasagan to cripple the heart guy and Kakashi finished him off when he was barley alive.
>>722621876>Male character.>Played by a male.>Written by a male.>Directed by a male.>Somehow women's fault.
>>722620804He wasn't redeemed, he did what he want to do out of impulse, saving random eye patch man happened to be one of his random impulse, and that influenced Majima.It's kind of retarded to talk righteousness in a game that's all about organized crime. What's next? Are you going to complain that Sagawa got despite being a cat killer?
>>722678741You said woman logic implying it is.
