>200k+ concurrent players>60 new worlds announced to accommodate the rapidly expanding playerbase>lgbt event canceled, and new CEO said he doesn't want any more gay shit in the game>universal approval and positivity in the last few updates even from the most cynical /v/ playersWhat is going on? I thought things could only get worse but in OSRS they keep getting better.
It's just the best OSRS around and now is the best time to get into it.The game had some rocky trajectory back when ToB and CoX were the only raids around. So your game would go from either noobscape (quest cape) where your gear is worth pennies to endgame where you're dealing with gear worth billions.In the past few years Jagex focused on building the midgame bridge. We got ToA with flexible difficulty levels, we got moons of peril, we got the bosses of Desert Treasure 2 that are the perfect gateway to the endgame, especially Vardovis.Skilling has been receiving a lot of love, Jagex now wants nothing to do with identity politics drama, they've been more daring with adding content without running it through Reddit.I think the game is on its pinnacle now
>>722623312>the best OSRS aroundDamn I meant: the best MMORPG around.
>>722623382>>722623312the game you play solo 99% of the time can scarcely be considered an MMOand no, skilling bosses do not count
Even if it is in its "golden age", it doesn't look or play like it did when it initially released. I'm disappointed in the direction the developers decided to take the game over time. The game is just not for me, and that's okay.
>>722623584yeah that would be my main complaint , too much solo focus and not enough true mmo content . Like every boss is a solo instanced encounter. Where are the huge world bosses?
>>722623809>direction the developers decidedthats the neat part. You decided it
>>722624023Not everything was decided by polls. Although those are part of the problem as well.
>>722623584that's just the case for most MMOs these days, MMO now just means you get to see other players running around while you do stuff
Are they uncensoring shit?
>>722624130the devs didn't decide on wildy changes either. The banks (big nosed goblins from harry potter unrelated to any actual racial group) did
>>722623138Shan't be playing
>>722623138>>200k+ concurrent playersMostly bots>>60 new worlds announced to accommodate the rapidly expanding playerbaseThey're going to be for the totally not league releasing next week and then they're getting closed, read the blog.>>lgbt event canceled, and new CEO said he doesn't want any more gay shit in the gameCasuals getting filtered by the fag shit never good old. It's never getting fixed but this year's been a baby step in the right direction.>>universal approval and positivity in the last few updates even from the most cynical /v/ playersWoWbabs got fed up with getting forcefed pigshit and took a chance to try out the vastly superior game, you love to see it.>What is going on?A combination of the voting charter, Redditor giga-autism, really good emergent gameplay, and the oldschool team having confident leadership makes Jagex one of the only good game developers in the business. Not even among MMO devs, just in general.
>>722625097WoW mogs your shitty game lmao>really good emergent gameplayLMAO
>>722623138Troon companyTroon gamePlay Apogea instead
>>722625097>They're going to be for the totally not league releasing next weekThese worlds yes but the game recently got tons of new worlds. Jagex moved to a cloud architecture ~2 months ago so that they can start releasing new worlds in new regions. The game is definitely more popular than ever.
>>722624991You post on a board, were a good 60% of the posts are furry porn, degenerate fetish Tumblr sex shit, and anime gooning yet you won't touch a game because of a random statement made by the devs on an obscure article, and maybe an lgbqt outfit or something in game.You are a different breed.
No one "plays" this game, they just load up bots and scripts and leave it running while they watch Youtube and Twitch streams.
>>722623138I can't believe people chose to play this crap over WoW, point and click trash hundreds of hours wasted. No wonder they had to fill it up with bots to pretend it's good.
>>722623138Multitude of factors1. Jagex pays their devs fuck all, so the only people working there are people who genuinely care about the game2. The early days of polling put the fear of god into them and forced them to actually understand their player base. They literally cannot get away with being out of touch retards.3. The MMO model OSRS follows encourages players to invest heavily into it via the unspoken promise that progress won't ever be wasted. Two hours put into the game now will always be more or less two hours put into the game, they won't release an expansion in a years time which retroactively renders those two hours worthless.4. Blizzard shit the bed and the Jagex marketing team plunged in the knife as hard as they could
>>722623584Go raid nigga join a clan
>>722625608OSRS endgame is way more complex and has a higher skill ceiling than WoW endgameThere is absolutely nothing in any other MMO that requires as much knowledge and execution from the player as a sub 18 colosseum
>>722625097>Mostly botsThat doesn't make sense just from a supply and demand point of viewThe game can't be mostly bots or it wouldn't be worth bottingI'm not sure what the equilibrium is but I'm sure we have already hit it
I think one of these days jagex is gonna be in very deep legal shit, I can't prove it but I've always had the feeling. The way they handled jed, all the drama and the generally inappropriately hostile attitude towards their playerbase it just seems to fit the bill.
>>722628169pvpnigger detecteddon't you have streamers to ddos?
osrs is just weirdly cozy and one of the few MMOs that is solo-centric
>>722623138>>60 new worlds announced to accommodate the rapidly expanding playerbaseThe only thing that's expanding is the amount of bots. The game is at least 40% bots, a runescape creator proved it recently. The game has next to zero actual new players. It's fuckin botscape now.
>>722628232not really, I just think jagex has a bad attitude
>>722623992You mean like Huey, which was just added a while back?
got my quest cape on my iron yesterday and now all my motivation to play is yet again gone
>>722627386Clicking stuff for dozen of hours at low effort while being able to play something else on the side, and having occasional bursts of high intensity activity, is more fun to me than WoW where everything requires active effort but it's repetitive
>>722625608WoW is just a shitty dungeon crawler. The gameplay loop revolves around clearing out the same 5 dungeons repeatedly in order to get better armor and weapons for the crappy PvP mode. Then you need to repeat everything again in the next expansion because your fancy gear is outdated. The quests are all about fetching crap or killing 10 boars and the skilling lacks the depth of OSRS
>>722628047This is definitely not trueI respect OSRS endgame and think it is the better game, but nothing comes close to the complexity of high end WoW. You literally need to learn coding to program your own addons/weakauras. It's just a different ballpark. I could even admit that there are more OSRS players engaging with high-end OSRS than there are WoW players engaging with high-end WoW, but high-end WoW is still another level of autism.
>>722623138maybe im just a dumb faggot but OSRS just cant hold my attention. and im not some zoomer either, i was born in the 80s, i am WELL USED to sandbox games and 'making my own goals', but for some reason i just cant do it in osrsdoesnt help that im not really a fan of grinding for its own sake either, and am more interested in stories, but you cant get stories from quests without grinding skills, and if alienfood has proven anything, its that there are just some quests you *have* to have a guide to do unless you like enormous headaches and guessing games
servers gonna break when sailing releases
>>722628964Unless you're programming those addons mid-gameplay, that doesn't really count. The amount of information processing required between the two games is about the same, but OSRS requires much higher APM and far more accuracy in execution.
>>722629049the quests in osrs can be a lot of fun (at least the old ones) but some of them DO have point-and-click puzzle logic. honestly you should try them without a guide as preparing for a quest is fun in itself. the limited inventory space you get in osrs forces you to really think about what you're going to bring and it does make some quests feel like a true adventure.
>>722629189yeah im not fucking interested in having to do extremely precise arcade-tier reflex gameplay in my supposedly casual laid back mouse clicker game, thanksthats like putting skittles on your salad. sure, skittles taste fine on their own and i can appreciate them, but i dont want them on my fucking salad
>>722629209a good 70% of my dislike of osrs comes from the 'oh you didnt bring (insert arbritrary item you could never have predicted here)??? better spend a half hour trekking all the way back to the closest bank and returning. oh wait, you ddin't bring (insert 2nd arbitrary item you could never have predicted here)?!?! BETTER DO IT AGAIN!'dont even get me fucking started on almost every form of teleportation in osrs seems to work off 'charges' or is limited in some way. no i dont want to buy an amulet of combat for the umpteen millionth fucking time. and no, having maxed out stats and grinding for 9000 hours for a 1% chance to make one item have permanent charges DOESNT COUNT AS A SOLUTION.
I have mixed feelings about it. I don't like that the corpse of one of my favorite games is being paraded around, but at the same time there are probably kids playing OSRS now who would otherwise be playing mobile shit so I guess it's a good thing overall.
>>722623992They've experimented with this as well, though it was Deadman exclusive with Apocalypse and Armageddon. I would like to see it become a real mechanic in the main game but I don't think it's feasible without completly altering the game world to have dedicated spaces for it. Players have asked for roaming Revenants to make a comeback and theres been game jam suggestions (or they might've been player made) to add roaming boss(es) to the Wilderness but nothing past just fun concepts.
>>722623138>>lgbt event canceled, and new CEO said he doesn't want any more gay shit in the gameBased. Now, cut out all the other gay shit they've added throughout the years and I'll consider subscribing again.
>>722627386I know this is bait but there was a surge of WoW players both retail and classic going to OSRS.
>>722629268You don't have to be interested in it, that stuff is only for like 0.01% of the playerbase. But that doesn't change the fact that OSRS actually does have an extremely high skill ceiling, which is objectively healthy for the game. Low floor but high ceiling is great for community building.I never thought I'd be interested in it either, but I joined a clan, did some raids, and eventually started getting reluctantly dragged through harder content by my friends, and now I have HMT kc and a maxed bank. And I'm still a complete noob compared to some of those friends with zuk helms and shit.
>>722629189Again this is just not true. >The amount of information processing required between the two games is about the sameNo. In WoW you need to code addons that break up information for you, otherwise high end content is unplayable. This is not even a good thing about WoW, it's a big flaw that Blizzard is finally tackling. But to suggest that OSRS requires the same amount of information processing is insane.There are people getting inferno capes on phones. And no these are not sweaty streamers pushing the limit of what is possible, these are normal people, I know many of them in my clan. You would never see anyone doing a +20 on a phone. OSRS requires frequent precision in a grid based game. It's more of a stamina test than an actual precision test. WoW requires pixel perfect precision in a 3D game. It's true precision.OSRS difficulty largely comes from unintuitive mechanics that are hard to learn but easy to execute reliably once you know them. WoW is the opposite. The mechanics are easy to learn. Executing them is a real situation is not for everyone.
>>722630521he probably thinks wow addons/weakauras are equivalent to runelite plugins
Well, every other MMO has committed outright suicide and is in a massive lull, so OSRS releasing pretty meaningful updates (varlamore being finished being a big one) plus having more midgame content now to bridge the gap from questing and zulrah spam to raids, and the side novelties like ironman, leagues, etc.I struggle to believe that the 200k number is legit though, you can go into pretty much any world and see bots outnumbering real people like 10:1 doing pretty much any activity. Even shit like fucking forestry. I think it's probably still around 50k real people, MAYBE 75k if I'm being generous. But the amount of actual loot going on the GE is pretty much the same or worse, inflation has gotten SO much worse too. bonds stabilized a little bit but we also haven't had leagues in a minute. The new one next week will probably spike them up again.Also, sailing soon.But yeah they update the game, that's about it. Doesn't need to be every week like they do (though that helps, roblox has proven it to be the most successful pattern to user retention and growth), but more than once every 4-6 months like wow and ff14 and lost ark and maplestory and new world and ESO and fallout76 and, well, you get the idea.Consistent, well paced updates that are tiny, and bigger updates at a slower pace. People don't like waiting months between seeing updates, even if they're just QoL shit.
>>722628169they are in the uk so I wouldn't be surprised, probably have to shutdown once digital ids track your time spent gaming
>>722623138bots
>>722630750I don't. I know what wow addons do.>>722630521I'm not talking about inferno capes. That's weak shit. I'm talking about the fucked up inferno speedruns, the type of shit where people are clicking every 60ms for 30 minutes straight, working out what tick a random mob on the other side of the screen is on, and then using that information to work out what sequence they need to flick their prayers in.It's not just an endurance check, the technical skill required is immense.
>>722623138>lgbt event canceled, and new CEO said he doesn't want any more gay shit in the gameexplain this chuddie
>>722628169They've had multiple (several dozen) lawsuits, and settle every single one. There's not really anything they're doing that's too egregious, because of the legality being so murky in the UK and US about "digital product rights". The only places that really support that shit at all is south korea and china (Which is why jagex doesn't officially support asia at all). They basically get to handwave people's accounts being stolen by saying nothing has value, and courts agree. When that changes, we probably see a return of actual in-game policing.
>>722631916Female dwarves also having beards have been an ongoing joke since the early 90sThe quests she's in draw zero attention to it at all, there is no soapboxing, there is no glorifying it
>>722632791almost like how queer people exist in real life
>>722632927Not for long
>>722631916>female dwarves have beardsBased?
>>722633034you finally coming out of the closet?
>>722633472Not yet, I think my family will be ready to hear about the Jews next year at the rate things are going, thanks for asking.
>>722633536bro got the talmud and a bagel shop in his closet
>What's going on?4th quarter and no bot bans so it looks better for their investors
>>722633997There was a massive ban wave like a month ago
>>722623138The ever increasing epidemic of zero-attention span retards who want something to "play" while they scroll tiktok.
>>722633997player count dropped by like 32k since august from bots getting banned
>>722629268its more like you have a salad and when you're in the mood you can go to your pantry and grab some skittles. I just started playing this game a few months ago (got barrows gloves yesterday and fire cape today, yeehaw) and I find the game very very unique. I really like how economy-forward the whole thing is, and how skilling activities are not only balanced by the ratio of cost/profit and exp gain, but also afk-ability. I've never played a game like that before. you get this rich ecosystem of choosing your activities anywhere on the wide spectrum of 'study wikiyt vids and do hours of extremely demanding and difficult content' to 'literally click once every 10 minutes and alt-tab out the rest of the time' and unrelated to all that, I love the quest design and humor and writing. its all lightly satirical without being smarmy and ironic, and the quests themselves often are little 'escape the room' type diversions with lots and lots of classic point-and-click adventure logic.not to mention the presentation from the music to the visuals is packed with charm due to their restrictions. I'm just loving this game right now. I haven't played WoW but I did play ff14 up thru shadowbringers and I'm enjoying this much more.
>>722634484>its all lightly satirical without being smarmy and ironicClassic RS writing is some of my favorite. I love that the main character isn't some sort of gallant hero, but just an adventurer for hire that's willing to do anything for the promise of a reward. Pic is from "Between a Rock"
>>722634315I run bot farms man they're being waaaay more laid back about it than normal, which checks out since a new company bought it off the Carlyle group a while back
>>722626126Why do you feel the need to chime in if you've never played the game? Do you enjoy looking like a fuckwit?
>>722635314I do enjoy the modern writing in one case, that's all the instances where NPCs will acknowledge how bullshit it is you happen to have all the random items they need, because you read a quest guide
>>722635432Anyone playing the game can see that's not true, since all the bot hotspots got nuked.
>>722631825Speedrunning is not a real metric for a game's difficulty. I don't even know what content you're thinking of that requires clicks every 60ms, the closest to that is something like 6 jads at 1hp without prayer and even that is only click intensive for like 30 seconds (btw literally only one single person does that content and it's for views)
>>722635432Why would you just come here and tell lies
>>722623992runescape has never been a real mmo, you spend your time clicking on the same thing over and over again
>>722636705That's every MMO.
>>722636309>Speedrunning is not a real metric for a game's difficultyIsn't that the whole point of 'heroics' or whatever in WoW?
>>722637032>heroicsWhy are you retards so opinionated about OSRS being harder than WoW if you clearly never played WoW in your life?
they are banning RMT'ers pretty hard right now
>>722637210>In World of Warcraft, Mythic Plus (Mythic+) is a challenging, cooperative, timed dungeon mode where players face a scaling difficulty level based on a Mythic Keystone>timed dungeon mode What did they mean by this?
>>722635314Scrambled! is absolutely peak writing. The classic writing isn't gone, it just doesn't feature as frequently anymore.
>>722637406>timed objectives are the same as speedrunningthis is my last (you)
>>722636309Speedrunning is a metric for OSRS difficulty. Low skill floor, high skill ceiling.Maybe if WoW had a speedrunning scene it would be more interesting and competitive.Colosseum speedruns often require 8 way switches, movement, and prayers all in a single tick.
>>722637486>completion time depends on speedY...Yes?
>>722623138>bend the knee to currently accepted political culture war temperature and remove gay shit>will add gay shit back in as soon as the pendulum swings the other way>"So epic of them!"
>>722637515WoW has a speedrun scene hundreds of times larger than OSRS's, I simply don't need that to prove WoW is harder than OSRS, the raw game is more than enough
Post emIron btw
>>722637805>Iron btwOh so now you want to interact with other people? Fuck off
>>722637851You dont play OSRS
>>722637928Neither do you, OSRS is an MMORPG
>>722637640If it's hundreds of time larger, then why did OSRS appear on GDQ but WoW never has?
>>722637967Lmao wow tranny detected
>>722637967then main osrs isn't an mmorpg either because of the GE
>>722628507Sirpugger viewer detected. Opinion discarded.
>>722638132>don't use the GE>can still open a trade with someone standing next to it and interact with them in this MMORPGDid you think you had a big brain reply?
>>722637979not as many trannies in the playerbase
>>72263817299% of players are not gonna trade you over using the GE
>>722638201Holy shit the browning of the internet was the worst thing to happen to this planet
>>722638271why are you getting mad over a simple fucking fact, unless you are risk fighting 99% of fucking people are not gonna go out and manually trade someone over just buying it over the GE, this happens in EVERY fucking mmo that has an auction house.
>>722628507You do realize the retard that "proved" it just counted the amount of players in one area that he SUSPECTED were bots, not proven, suspected, and then multiplied that by the amount of worlds in the game and that was his "math" that "proved" this
>>722638362heck we don't even have to attribute this to mmos only, POE devs literally refused to add an auction house because they wanted people to go through actually trading with a human manually.
>can see, talk to, play with, raid with, and skill with everyone in the game>somehow, WoW trannies are convinced ironmen aren't playing an MMORPG because they don't trade, even though the most popular version of their shit game is solo self-found hard-core ironmen clinging to a loot treadmill patch to patch
>>722638362Being able to trade and interact with people is a fundamental part of a massively MULTIPLAYER game. Being an Iron Man is a hilarious attempt to become a special snowflake in a game where you're not all that special. Even more humiliating when they act like vegans and need to let you know first thing that they spit in the face of the concept of MMO's. They wear its skin like buffalo bill and demand you look at them? No thank you
>>722623584>>722623992>solodidnt they have a quest where you needed another person to finish? you needed to get a shield part or some shit. and i remember people going around asking for help with that or was that a one off and jagex never did content like that again?
>>722638495ironmen can still play with other people
>>722623138Everything about OSRS is basically solved in terms of time, new content and only operate on tight standards so nothing will be inordinately powercrept. What, the last busted update was the fever spiders debacle when they were a hyper-efficient GP source?Also most people in the game are older players, occasionally you'll see newer players. Insane retention. There's also several decent development teams and at least one awful team that's basically on holiday duty and pro-diversity/censorship duty.Sailing will make or break the game, although even if it was a turd (seems unlikely no matter how suspicious I am of it) OSRS would probably survive it.
>>722638509They did one more quest after that connected to that one that needed the other person again but other than that, nothing else that I can think of
>>722638495>>722638475>pre-empted, eviscerated, and publicly MOGGED 30 seconds later, one post later LMAODILATE
>>722623584you can skill with any number of people theoretically and you'll only lose out marginally over some solo methodsas for group PvM there's only 3 raids, wildy bosses? and godwars dungeons, although a lot of shitter bosses can be fought in groups I suppose
>>722638542>>722638542Playing with other people is not the same thing as interacting with them. Every single game is an MMO if you can stream it to people?
>muh 40%Mat K said that bots consisted of 8% of the players online at any given point.I know retards here wear tinfoil hats and cling onto conspiracy theories, but it doesn't take much effort to realize the game wouldn't be sustainable if 40% of players were bots. Like, if you said 15% I would disagree, but it'd be a respectable guess from a reasonable person. 40% is just retarded.
>>722638623you can literally raid and boss with other accounts as an ironman
>>722638623nigga what, there is a clear difference with me doing a raid with another person and streaming it to them on discord. what are you even on about
>>722638639Trannies assume everything in the world is ~43%, just like they are
>>722638658>>722638665I won't be wasting any more time arguing with the vegans of OSRS, this is more interaction with another player than you're used to anyway
>>722628851>The gameplay loop revolves around clearing out the same 5 dungeons repeatedly in order to get better armor and weapons for the crappy PvP mode.This nigger has not played wow in 18 yearsAnd doing the same shit over a d over again is literally the point of osrs lmao
>>722638571damn. missed opportunity.and from what i've read just now if all "bosses" are instanced i imagine shit like summoning the silverlight demon outside of varrock is no longer a thing huh? what a shame. glad i quit after the gold limit in player trades
>>722638639people have this weird combination of confirmation bias + the paranoia of thinking everyone around them are bots
>>722638719because youre wrong and can't handle it, i accept your concession.
>>722638758Can you accept my trade invite?
>>722638778no but we can do raids, minigames, and whatever else the fuck together :)
>>722638719Translation: I got proven wrong and I don't want to admit it so I'm gonna act like YOU'RE the problem when really I'm just a massive retard
>>722638727>yeah! Instead you should do the same thing every week over 9 different characters, rather than going for gear on one, because lockouts are good for the game instead of a retard system designed to keep you on the treadmillLmao
>>722638821>noOh weird
>>722625713>>722638128>>722638182>>722638475>>722638584>>722638693It's not healthy or normal to think about trannies as much as you guys all do.
>>722629595>WoW players both retail and classic going to OSRS.It's literally all classic streamers tho lmaoSome people wanna push this new exodus, when in reality is just the retarded onlyfangs streamers.
>>722638856you couldve just framed your entire opinion about trading but instead you made it about "interacting with people" better luck next time faggot
>>722638731Not every boss is instanced but a good portion are, I don't remember much from demon slayer because it's been years since I've done it but I think it's always been a cutscene thing?
>>722638943Vegan?
>>722637032No niggerSpeed running is for trannies
>>722638914>WoW tranny deflecting
>>722638852>yeah! Instead you should do the same thing every week over 9 different characters, rather than going for gear on one,This nigger has not played wow in 18 yearsYou can stop now, dumb retarded black ape
>>722638967>I think it's always been a cutscene thing?other players could still interact with the demon you summonedas in you summon it at the druid circle and it would immediately attack anything within aggro radius regardless of their quest statusits been over a decade so my memory is fuzzy too but i do know that it was completely invulnerable unless you were using silverlight. whether it despawns after a while or lingers until slain is something i can't recall.
>>722639203Man I've been playing since 2005 and I can't even remember that, if that's how it worked that's crazy
>>722639183>ignores the back half of the post, declines to engage in the conversation about his tranny cage, seethes and copes in threads about better games
>>722639019hey hey I just do that it for the achievements
all of the new content updates have been extremely tasteful and the game has been kept pure (away from gacha/cosmetics/general soulless bullshit)
>>722639287>2005it was one of the first quests so its been through a lot of iterationsthe only reason i remember is because i used him to grief
>>722630521Wait does osrs have a rotation button too?
