Why don't pokemon games have models of this quality?
>>722625704Because they don't need to have models of that quality, GameFreak knows their fanbase will eat anything they shit on a plate as long as it has the Pokemon logo on it.
>>722625704Why would they when the tendies are gonna literally suck the shit out of their assholes just because it has a Nintendo logo on the cover?
>>722625704I love digimon but this argument sucks. There are way, way, way fewer Digimon than Pokemon. And: Digimon popularized the idea that every game has its own subsection of digimon with most of the roster being omitted every game except for fan favorites long before Pokemon had that idea. They started the idea that you didn't need to include the full roster.So arguably, they only need maybe 100-200 monsters modeled, tops, and they can re-use the models because these games aren't radically different from one another. You're right that Pokemon is lazy, but this isn't the reason why. Digimon is made on a shoestring budget and it has shown that every single game.
>>722626040If you count recolors Digimon has more than 1500, which is more than pokémon.
>>722626040>They started the idea that you didn't need to include the full roster.RSE backlash nearly killed pokemon and they were basically forced to bring everything back. Pokemon had full rosters in a full decade of post-gen4 titles because it had a gun to its head.
>>722625704Pokemon models actually look great ingame. Game is just shit.Also see stuff like Pokken and Snap.
>>722626040The new Digimon title has 460 mons. What does dexcut Turdkemon have? 600? And 50x the revenue?
>>722626040Never, EVER, give your atrocious opinion about Digimon again.
>>722625704Because Digimon has 1/10th the number models to work with. So they can refine them much more easily than the 1000+ models that Pokemon has to work with. But then again Pokemon haven't reworked any of it's models for the last 12 years. So that excuse doesn't work anymore.
>>722626413huh. that's more then pokemon
>>722626561No shit retard. The digi-devs actually work on their IP, unlike the pokeshitters.
>>722626496Digimon has 460 models. Pokemon has less than twice that but with a much higher budget.
>>722625704Tell that to Gamefreak untalented and mediocre game designers.
>>722626123>>722626413>>722626561How many of those have actually been playable in games though?You can't forget that a lot are recolors too.
>Palworld looks and plays better>Time Strangers looks and plays betterStories 3 will probably also look and play betterPokefags really can't win these arguments right now
>>722627161You can't call out recolors with modern day pokemon. you lost that war already. Both franchises are filled with gay recolors.
>>722626123>if you count recolorsWe're counting new models tho>>722627161>How many of those have actually been playable in games though?Usually a slice of about 100-200 every game. It wouldn't be possible to get every. single. one.
>>722627238>You can't call out recolors with modern day pokemonActually I can, regionals have a lot more thought put into them than stuff like Frigidmon but brown. The closest would just be black Tauros, even so there are Fire and Water type variants of it.
>>722627205Time Strangers isn't like any pokemon game ever made, so trying to compare the two is foolish.Arguably, I am struggling to think of a pokemon game that's even remotely like digimon. The Digimon vs Pokemon wars on forums in the late 90's and 00's were between retarded kids who only played one or the other, and /v/ is apparently made up of those retarded kids all grown up but still retarded.
>>722627205>playsYour comp scene, show it.
>>722627457>i play pokeymon for comp and expect others to also this is the gayest thing posted in this thread.
>Your comp scene, show it.
>>722625704You know why
>>722627357They both had the same thought process.>how can we trick retards into thinking we made a new monster when in fact, we didn't?
>>722625704Kimeramon looks like that?Fuck yeah, I have a Kabuterimon that I've been grooming explicitly for that.>>722627457lol
>>722626040>There are way, way, way fewer Digimon than PokemonFalse, there are hundreds more Digimon than Pokemon. And no, most of those aren't recolors
Digimon = AndroidPokemon = iPhoneiykyk
>>722625704Why bother making a good game, when you can spend a fraction of development costs for some shitty slop? People will buy it anyways>Why don't pokemon games have models of this quality?N64 and NGC is when they were still trying
>>722625704Because gf is shit, even their 2d looked mediocre other games had better looking 2d games and spritesThey don't have time they keep releasing games every year lol They don't want help because it's japanese prideThey don't need put effort because the Pokemon fanbase buyll it especially japanese retards
>722625704Because Game Freak are talentless hacks.One thing that they neither have nor need though, is Irdeto's malware called Denuvo.Fuck off shameless shill.
>>722626040>dude, you can't ask the most profitable franchise in history to do more than the bare minimun
>>722625704The Digimon eyes always look so cool and fierce, it really sells a lot of the monsters.
>>722627719>>722627932>>722627968Oh I forgot /v/ doesn't care about gameplay or videogames.You don't even have Time Stranger do you? So many faggots were bitching about Denuvo.
why was a digimon composed of a few shitter champions so strong?
>>722625704for what purpose, modern pokemons are a rounded blob with big eyes and thats it
>>722628557I don't buy Denuvo games so no I don't. So?
>>722628608It was one half of the Y2K panic
>>722628314TryingYes because stadium games were not gamefreak lol
>>722625704Because sometimes less is more. Granted, Pokemon games are in fact largely dogshit, but the simplicity of the designs isn't the reason why.
honestly pokemon is a pretty interesting game on a competitive level
>>722628557Most poketurd fans don't care about it, they just buy it because it has the Pokemon logo
>>722628989>poketurdkek it's the Sharty tranny.
>>722628608Cooking a ton of genes multiplies all their power together.
>>722626040Typical pokemon fan And their dogshit excuses lol just say gamefreak is bad and keep releasing games yearly for its merchandise empire
>>722625704That thing is ugly as fuck holy shit
>>722626123If you count recolours then Pokemon has 2050
>retard starts samefagging and dumping his reaction folderI accept your concession.
>>722625704One thing I love about this game is that they used the "angry/sad" animations used during story cutscenes to showcase your mons being under status effects.meanwhile Pokemons still act like nothing happened while poison eats them away.Bakemon's specially good. He's all "Call an Ambulance, but not for me."
>Junomon just wanted to be a motherngl I felt shitty for thinking she was gonna be a groomer. Same goes for Operator not turning into a shitty backstabber.
>>722625704why are digimon fags so obsessed with pokemon all of the sudden? these shitty games are trying to be SMT so bad, it's really nothing to be proud of. actual creative bankruptcy.
i mean, their base models are fine, right? it looks to me like the problem is they're legendarily incompetent at optimization, so they just drop the resolution and cut the lighting sims to make up for it
>>722629695>why are digimon fags so obsessed with pokemon all of the sudden?It's pokemon fags using other monster catching series to attack other pokemon fags because they think Gamefreak reads their posts on /v/. Happens every time a new game comes out.
>>722629778nah, im seeing this shit everywhere. digimonfags think they struck gold and are shilling this shit everywhere. they can go fuck themselves.
>>722629934it's a fun game
>>722629695>these shitty games are trying to be SMT so badDirector claimed that they were aiming to fill the void left by the Mother series. The game is full of tragedies but also quirky shit like your dad being a gooner going around researching Digimon Waifus.
>>722629695I like Pokemon and hate the dogshit quality games gayfreak produces
>>722626040>There are way, way, way fewer Digimon than PokemonThat doesn't even work because of the dex cut they have been doing, which also was done because, you know they wanted to ensure some level of quality lmao, which they clearly have done thanks to the dex cut.
>>722629778This, those Pokemon fans wishes Pokemon be like digimon lmao poor man children don't accept pkmn is for toddlers
>>722630049>Director claimed that they were aiming to fill the void left by the Mother series. the undertale series already did that. director doesn't even know what he's doing.
>>722625704Who knows
>>722630134Nta but i think it's funny how pokefans get so insecure when someone says another monster tamer is better than theirs and that they're only comeback is that it sold more when any game made with the Pokémon title sells like hotcakes no matter the dogshit quality or low effort put into it
>>722630049I believe him when he says that Mother was a big influence, but Devil Summoner 1 and Soul Hackers were also such clear influences on Cyber Sleuth that even if he claimed it was a coincidence I'd assume he's outright lying.
Because fartendo is fucking garbage, shitch 2 a piece of shit,every game they launched this year look so fucking shit low effort
>>722630303Erm Pokegods? Why is Hamtaro mogging us?
Anytime someone tries to "fix" pokemon by making a romhack with a bunch of high quality overworld sprites, you very quickly realize why pokemon doesn't have that
>>722630872I don't think I have ever seen a pokemon romhack with reworked visuals like that
>>722630872If Digimon has the budget to make 460 monster models, Pokemon has the budget to make 1000
>>722630950pokemon has never even made a game with more than like 800
>>722627457The comp scene looks to be dead outside of smogon. Last i checked people were complaining about it being too stall-y
>>722626040This is a well thought out post, even if the numbers are wrong. What matters is the number of Digimon in game, not the total number that's inflated by a ton of Digimon that have never had a 3D model.I like Digimon designs better than a lot of Pokemon ones, and Digimon are a lot more complex to boot. But I've never heard anyone say "Oh I'm buying X game instead of Y game because the model quality is higher." It's a silly point to focus on, same with the total number of Digimon/Pokemon.
>>722625704There are 20x as many pokemon to digimon. No, 10 different color agumons don't count
Digichads won hard
>>722631434And always going to win, Pokemon never is going be good, good games take time, they keep releasing low effort games yearly lol
>>722629284>Shitting on KimerachadmonGo jerk it to your Gardevoir, you absolute faggot.
Making a friendly chimeramon and the other one reckless (so it can become Machinedramon) and then I'll fuse them. I hope they drop Sneed soon.
>>722630303>>722630771The Hamtaro games on the GBA are legitimately amazing and everyone should go play them. If you don't like them you have no soul.
>>722631272Visual spectacle is a huge deal for monster catchers and RPGs as a whole
>>722625704Anon please, there's no way a tiny, poor indie company like GameFreak can produce more than 1000 models for Pokemon. That's why they even deleted so many of them.
>>722632014This. I love turn based games, unless they're first person. I really cannot keep interest in first person turn based games.Action games don't need as much visual spectacle, it just needs a stable framerate and feel reactive.
>>722625704>SMTV:V without any of the things that make it goodbut why? smtv has plenty of mods, go play that instead.
>>722632098they're still using the same sfx files from 2006...>>722632119I like digimon time stranger and SMTfivengeance both, you're just a fag.
Bandai namco is not shitfreak funny the good looking pkmn games on switch are Pokken and new snap developed by them
>>722632119SMTV has a boring world and boring story with boring characters. SMTV might be harder than Digimon but both their battle systems aren't very deep compared to Pokemon's so it's a moot point.
>>722632328Bandai Namco is shit in another way.Every single game of theirs lately has NPCs and menus in game that BEG you to buy overpriced DLC. It's disgusting.It's even worse because they do it to good games like digimon time stranger.
>>722632342>aren't very deep compared to pokemon>had to bring up pokemonLOL. pretty much admitting Digimon has nothing going on for it.
Because they don't need put effort, gamefreak knows japantroons like dogshit meme games
>>722632606Digimon has the best monster raising mechanics.Pokemon has the best battle mechanics and can sustain an actual meta.SMT has the hardest NPC fights.
>>722625704Pokemon achieved popularity-nirvana: there's nothing left to prove for itself and will automatically run circles around CoD-level sales just by releasing a major product under their name.
is the new digimon gud?
>>722632847>he fell for the "SMT is le dark souls of RPGs" memeyou didn't play it.
>>722632908They don't even need to make games anymore, it's like maybe 5% of pokemon's actual income anyways
>>722625704Gamefreak is so entrenched in the franchise that we'll never get a good looking Pokemon game. They are a shit company with no ability or will to put out a good game despite having the backing of literal billions of dollars and probably plenty of help from ninendo if they fucking asked.I would just love to be a fly on the wall in one of their meetings.
>A Digimon game is in the frontpage of Steamfeels great seeing this franchise grow up in popularity bros
>>722632931It's pretty good. Wait for a sale unless you're a diehard fan.
>>722632931yeah but it's super jewish with its DLC.
>>722629284>hating on Kimeramongay or?
>>722632936I have. They do a good job at making boss fights unfair, but again it doesn't really have the depth Pokemon does, in fact one reason Pokemon is so easy is because of the many tools you have to tackle enemies.
>>722633085>it's realholy shit
>>722625704Why don't Digimon games have good monster designs and coherent world building?
>>722633182qrd on the DLC? are they a must?
>>722633195it's crazy how clueless you are.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhR-Z4owb4
flooded with spoilers in my youtube...I just wanted to listen to the openings...
>>722627457hahahahaha
>>722633258PRETENDO LOST
>>722633606what a retard holy fuck
>>722633001Mostly true, they'll just still need a marketing context for each new wave of Pokemon to make merchandise out of. Developing borderline-N64 JRPG's are the cheapest way short of just posting designs on Xitter/BluehairSky to do so.
>denuvo>$70Lol
>>722625704game freak are lazy because the games will sell millions no matter how shit they are
>>722625704Pokemon fans will eat literal shit if it were handed out by Nintendo.
I just beat Imperialdramon PM cant wait to get the agent rank req for it
>>722625704Let it go man, we all know gamefreak could release a pokemon with the graphical quality of red right now and people would go and preorder their deluxe versionsThey know that the pokemon fanbase is desperate for more content, even if the game is objectively bad, for the average fan is new = good, oldfags deny this but look at the official phone pokemon games out there, all of them making millions every year and still rampingSo why bother investing extra resources if the result will be the same?
>>722625704You tell me
>>722634058nigger I just wanted to listen to brave heartnot know who the fucking final boss is
>>722628608MetalGreymon's hair, duh.
>>722627161450 of them are playable in game. And they have voice lines for most of them.
>>722635762kys hard
>>722635603left design is better
fumamon when
Why don't DIgimon have a evolution line and game play of Pokemon quality?
>>722626040There are more Digimon than Pokemon.Time Stranger has 459 Digimon ingame right now, with 451 being playable. And there are more planned to be released for the season pass.All models have high quality, several animations and voice lines.https://youtu.be/yJJLf7Dx2vQ
>>722633258>side boob on the main pageWEARESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBACK
>>722626413Yeah, now remove the recolors. Very Disingenuous
>>722628557>Oh I forgot /v/ doesn't care about gameplay or videogames.Playing Pokemon for the comp scene, the exploited and easily solved comp scene, makes you the gayest faggot who has ever lived.The gameplay is dogshit and this is just saying that you're extremely happy to play around with the dogshit.
>>722628557>>722627457>competitive pokemonisn't this the sport everyone has to cheat at with hacked IV and EVs because the games are so notoriously shit at training that the meta requires hacked 'mons? This is like saying Smash Bros Melee is great because of all the glitches you can exploit. This is a toddler's excuse for why the gameplay is good.
>>722626040>There are way, way, way fewer Digimon than Pokemon.oh jeeze
>>722626040>Digimon popularized the idea that every game has its own subsection of digimon with most of the roster being omitted every game except for fan favorites long before Pokemon had that idea.They didn't popularize shitTime Stranger has (almost) every Digimon from the Cyber Sleuth duology and then about 100 more for a total of ~450In other words, at a time when Pokémon is cutting back on rosters for no particular reason, Digimon is increasing them substantially.Habu's dream was a Digimon game that had every Digimon in it.>and they can re-use the models because these games aren't radically different from one another.So what's Game Freak's excuse
>>722637205Actual problem is DLC mons.
>>722633383The highest priced "ultimate Edition" pack doesn't come with some of the DLC. One is a collection of cheat dungeons for xp, money and materials, while the other is a $20 music pack with the main tracks from the anime.
>>722625704there'd be a lot more footfags
>>722628314Wasn't even GameFreak funny enough. Both Stadium 1 and 2 were developed by Nintendo EAD while Colosseum and XD (don't) were made by Genius Sonority.
>>722637409>Habu's dream was a Digimon game that had every Digimon in it.Sounds good till you remember that lot of stuff overlaps. Don't get me wrong, it would be great, but even likes of SMT avoid doing so for sake of gameplay and setting.
>>722637593colosseum reuses a lot of stadium 2 animations also
>>722629934>Pokémon dominates monster-taming games for nearly 30 years>games have been dogshit for 10>new, high-profile monster-tamers are coming out and revitalizing the genreDamn I wonder why people keep clowning on Pokémon
>>722637205>cheat at with hacked IV and EVsNot to defend it, but if everyone has hacked IVs and EVs is anyone really cheating. Personally I think they should just remove EVs and IVs from competitive, instead they should have challenging endgame encounters where EVs and IVs help.
>>722637593>Nintendo EADHAL, nintendo did got involved but Iwata team did most of work, specially redoing whole battle system from scratch.
Can you crossdress in digimon?
>>722637731Just going by what wiki said.
>>722637731>Iwata continues to be the only reason Pokémon was ever good
>scroll scroll scroll>Your comp scene, show itlmeow, I can't fathom being that miserable that you have to find competitiveness in these monster collector games
>>722637680GF don't want anyone touching it without their involvement, Nintendo got away on early days but now with TPC whole thing is fucked.DP remake was outsourced but still had GF tardwrangling ILCA
https://x.com/3clipse_tt/status/1975196930843316715goty
>>722626040>the malding replies to this post when proven wrongabsolutely outstanding! Hope they will soon understand this isn't even up for debate, on top of the replies trying to sell recolors as their own Digimon using AI to boost Digimon monsters numbers, and by that logic you guys should be including Shinies. Also the damning fact is that all of Pokemon monsters has appeared in their respective video games, or in a video game period, and that Digimon has not. No matter how you crazy people whine and cry about Pokemon graphics. Go get some help! Get all the Digimon in a video game first, better yet get them all on a merchandise outside of video games first, before trying to go at Pokemon with this disingenuous, ill mannered disposition.
>>722637680nah, Persona and SMT games have been doing that for a while. no need to falseflag. Digimonfags have always been obnoxious cunts that need to be constantly put in their place. they deserve nothing.
>>722637750well?
>>722638476No one here has actually played the games
>>722638460>Persona and SMTthey don't have many cute monsters, if at all
>>722638476no, fag
>>722637698>if everyone has hacked IVs and EVs is anyone really cheatingYes. You could argue that there is not much disadvantage between players, but then you remember that you are assuming that among the thousands of players in the tournament everyone is breaking the rules and there is not a single honest player there, which is more worrying.
>>722625704The models are the one thing in Pokemon that aren't complete shit right now.
>>722636757Is this a chiropmon evolution?
>>722625704Because the Pokémon games don't have quality, period.
>>722638671People would rather nitpick small details over bigger issues for some reason. I don't even know what causes this, any other game would be crucified if released in same state as then current pokemon gen.
>>722638460>SMTfag acts smugly superior to any other monster-tamerMust be a day ending in Y>Persona and SMT games have been doing that for a whileOh yeah Persona 5 really brought back monster-tamers and there's been a huge glut of 'em since 2016Or... wait that's not rightBut SMTV was a smash hit and... well... that's not really true...
>>722639172>Digimon revitalized the monster catcher genreLOL. LMAOOOOO.
>>722639239I didn't say anything to that effect.
>>722638649They've added items that let you change IVs, EVs, natures, and abilities over time and they've become incredibly easy to obtain now. I'm sure most people just generate their teams to save time but you realistically can fix whatever shitty pokemon you have lying around in a couple minutes too.
>>722639239>Persona 5 didn't really bring back monster-tamers since its release>Oh so you're saying [completely different statement]Why yes, I do like pancakes
>>722640056i love ice cream
>>722640334Why do you hate lemonade
>>722640392too yellow
Pokemon is gray tasteless slop.
>>722640592why did swsh and sv sell 20 million copies?I don't get it
>>722626206>pokefags refuse to let gamefreak omit 'mons from any game>pokefags refuse to let gamefreak go a single game without adding a whole bunch of new 'monsI wonder if pokefags will crack before the series collapses in on itself.
>>722625704incompetence, and the fact that they still sell 30M copies a pop even when they produce actual trash
>>722640673the same reasons macbooks sell well
There's no doubt that no matter how shitty the Pokemon games are they'll sell gorillions but why is that? What created such brand loyalty? Was it really the anime?
>>722637205This post is so fucking retarded.They "cheat" only to get comp ready pokemon as fast as possible, there's no actual cheating in the fights itself. Every new game makes it easier to get comp ready pokemon, it's just hard to beat instant injecting, but it's not impossible. You haven't addressed the actual gameplay going on in battles.
>>722642459People played it when they were kids and the game was a massive fever back then, guess they imprinted on itA friend of mine almost literally considers nintendo part of his family, was touched when he was sent a birthday discount from them, and stops speaking with me for a week or so if I mention piracy kek
>>722637140>the exploited and easily solved comp sceneWhat's your ELO on Showdown? Ever won Worlds?
>>722627457Showdown trannies do not get to have opinions.>VGCEven more of a clown show but at least there's possible money involved I guess.
>>722642459You want to know the real reason?Monster catching games are the best turn based games, and Pokemon is the best among monster catching games. Best of the best. /v/ will never admit it though.
>>722625704real, like I'm playing time stranger right now and hot damn the models are so fucking crisp in 4k
>>722642459It was a combination of the marketing, ads, and autists loving pokemon porn.
>>722626413>>722626561>Agumon>Agumon but a nigger>Agumon but with straps on his hand>Agumon but white>Agumon but blue>Agumon but with stripes>Agumon but a samurai>Agumon but adolf hitler>etcwow, such variety
>>722627238pokemon at least has the decency to admit that their recolors are recolorsninetales and alolan ninetales share a dex numbermeanwhile digimon has 70 recolors of agumon and they're all supposedly different creatures
So is the new digimon good? Always wanted to play one of those but they're very mediocre a lot of the time apparently
>>722643917it's digimon, what do you think? digifags are no different from pokefags in that they hype the shit out of their mediocre ass games
>>722643473>agumon but a niggerthe original line is the virus oneI think you mean>agumon but a pumpkin
>>722631272>I have never heard anyone say "oh i'm buying this game because it looks better than"really? you haven't? because I keep hearing people say that and act as if gameplay is an afterthought.do you live with your head in the sand? how could you have not encountered the sheer amount of graphics fagging people do?
>>722643917It's okay. Scratch the jrpg itch.
>>722626353This, the main problem of Pokemon games are the gameworld, interactions and animation transitions, for some reason they just don't want to work on them, their games from other franchises look completely normal so who knows what's going on there.
>>722625704Shitgimon lost
>>722628557Modern pokemon comp seems lame, I stopped in gen 7
>>722625704His mega form is pretty nuts. Genuinely apocalyptic tier.
around when do you get access to Aegiomon's evolutions? I'm assuming it's story-locked
>>722642652>its explicitly against the rules>but actually it isn't cheating because it would be too much work>there absolutely is no controversy over people who cheat pokemon in vs those who don't>no one has ever brought in illegal movesets, oops actually I mean no one has ever gotten punished for bringing illegal moveset combinations in despite it being the case.its against the rules, its cheating, if you disagree, run your own tournaments where it isn't. Plenty of tournaments exist outside of using the games to battle that encourage you to generate pokemon to compete in them, why compete in official events if you don't like the rules?no matter how you slice it, it's still cheating.
>>722625704There is this word called fun. Graphics don't matter at all and every time you schizos start to shit on something it's always about the graphics because you know actual normal people will always prefer gameplay over 60fps, that's why nobody cared that bloodborne was like 20 fps most of the time.
>>722644568around when you go back to the human world for the first time.the game really picks up after the first boss encounter with the first evo, boss fights get more involvedyou get a couple more in a row after each section after this.
>>722643091Why is Pokémon the best? I think the 1v1 battles and the type chart make it really boring. And don't just hide behind PVP that's never a real answer. It's still rock paper scissors.>>722643985That's also true ngl.
>>722644590>normal people will always prefer gameplayI wish I lived in your world.
>>722643473>laughing at the "fake" descriptions >turns out they’re all REAL Digimon Man, this series is unbeatable
>>722625704SNOY!!! SNOY!!! SONY!!!!
>>722625704Why would they want to downgrade?
>>722644907it's your own fault you seethe at people having fun 24/7.
>>722629287>If you count recolours then Pokemon has 2050Wouldn't spinda alone make that like several million?
>>722626040Digimon isn't about catching them all, so it feels like you planted this just to make tendies look bad.
>>722627457Take a shower, child predator.
>>722626040This is why Pokemon should go HD2D like Dragon Quest 3. It's the perfect solution to the franchise and everyone saying it isn't is coping. Sorry HD2D is the perfect "Low effort but works" solution for Pokemon and I know people would buy it in droves. Octopath and DragonQuest sold well and is proof the style is accepted by normalfags. Pokemon needs to go back to sprites and just do 3D environments with it.
>>722636757*licks abs*
>>722644963>>722644984I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN
>>722644570The cheating only goes as far as generating optimal tournament legal pokemon, no one is bringing wondertomb to VGC matches. It's like there was a golf tournament and the clubs each costed 1000 bucks so one player just stole one instead. Did he cheat? He did something dishonest but he didn't manipulate the game in his favor, the matches haven't even started.
>>722625704oh hey, I just watched the episodes this thing debuts and gets defeated, neatYolei is wife, Kari is sex
>>722645146>graphics complainthanks for proving my point.
anyone here played Aethermancer?
>>722645207>misrepresenting the videoYou defend Nintendo for free.
>Oh no, nintendo patented summoning mechanics?!>what about persona and dragon quest! we are in danger gamers!Then explain how is it that Digimon is untouched? how come there is going to be a new persona game?
>>722644590Bloodborne gameplay is shit though? These "normal people" you talk of sound real dumb.
>>722645260>video complains about graphics>noooooo not like that!!sure thing nintendeen
>>722645004Billions.
>>722645272Nintendo has saboteurs inside Bamco.
>>722644860>Why is Pokémon the best?NTA but it's pretty simple>large roster with next to no exact recolors>multiple battle formats (1v1, 2v2, raids etc)>multiple minigames for variety>a focus on exploration that most tamers still don't do>abilities that aren't just simple stat buffs>18 types that can be combined for unique weaknesses and resistances whereas most games like Digimon and SMT have just the standard rock, paper scissors fire > nature weaknesses.
>>722645303https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/7_lbT_MkOebTCGwETOhGXg/That video predates your boogieman. What now, schizo?
>>722645229No, but I did play Monster Sanctuary.
>>722645387Anon, his point was that you're not addressing what was said and that you're acting like that nintendeen guy, not that you were him or he made the webm
>>722645146Damn those textures are rough
>>722644013No, only Metal was originally virus, the black line came later.
what if pimp my ride designed a digimon
>>722645151>all cheating must be blatant cheatingillegal movesets can be legal moves but you could not have actually obtained.like having egg moves combined with moves that are from an event only.or move tutor exclusive moves on event pokemon from later games when you cannot transfer back.or before you had an item to swap abilities certain move and ability combinationswhich PLENTY of players have done.you straight up cannot ever legitimately get pokemon like that in many of the cases and you can trivially google this and find people talking about illegal pokemon combinations used in (and even winning) official events.what a retarded claim to think that only the most egregious and obvious cheating is cheating.
>>722645493>not that you were himnintendeen 100% posts here
>>722645393was it good?
>>722645393NTAplayed the aethermancer demo after having played (multiple times and loved) monster sanctuary and it is such a disappointment.
>>722645581>like having egg moves combined with moves that are from an event only.Well, no. Not anymore thanks to the mirror herb. Tutor on event is still illegal but they flag up.
>>722626561Now include megas, gmaxes, regional forms, and alternate forms
>>722645705the cases I am talking about have been happening for years when it wasn't the case.way to ignore the post to try to nit pick a single change that makes that one single case not always true.there are plenty of examples in straight up tpci events of it happeninglet alone when you look at private events where its far more egregiously done, but ironically enough private events generally give players match losses or retroactively change results if its noticed, but also don't care if pokemon were genned, as long as it was done within legal parameters, while tpci sweeps it under the rug and ignores it as if it didn't happen and is fine.cheating happens a lot in pokemon and you are being completely retarded if you don't think it is the case. if you agree with it or not (the expectations ARE ridiculous) it is still cheating and its in their rules.
>>722645642Could have used some better monster designs, but if you like making teams it's great.
>>722625704Shut the fuck up palchud.
>>722645348>large roster with next to no exact recolorsI'm going to be frank, I don't get why people make such a big deal about recolors. Like, I get why they can suck, but I swear people act like they're the end of the world. Also most of the pokemon don't feel unique.>>multiple battle formats (1v1, 2v2, raids etc)85% of the game is just the 1v1 kind. The kind so bad that the only games that have it are Pokémon and the shameless Pokémon copies.>>multiple minigames for varietyThat's not a Pokémon quality. A lot of RPGs had that. And in Yo-kai Watch 3, there was like 5 and a second whole game that was connected to the main one. It was fuckin' sick. If you ever play a YKW you gotta play 3 for that alone.>>a focus on exploration that most tamers still don't doI don't remember Hoen or Kalos being that great to explore.>>abilities that aren't just simple stat buffsDragon Quest Monsters does that, and I think it does it better. Because each monster in that has at least 3.>>18 types that can be combined for unique weaknesses and resistances whereas most games like Digimon and SMT have just the standard rock, paper scissors fire > nature weaknesses.That sounds better, but it's inherently just as boring as the others. That whole mechanic is handled the same in all 3 of those series. Where if you remember what is weak to what the enemy will just die in less than 3 attacks. It makes the game feel really lame when every damn monster is taken out with the same strategy.
>>722646025>private eventsThe illegal combinations always flagged up when it came to TPC anon one of the few times an illegal combination didn't was the guy who used the dream ball aegislash, private events however are a completely different matter they don't have proper regulations or a real way to check.
>digifag: Man, I fucking hate Pokemon!!!>proceed to hate Pokemon until the hype of Time Stranger die and wait the next 10 years for the next Digimon story to come out to trash Pokemon again>pokefags: Man, I fucking hate Pokemon!!!>boot up bw2>pokefags: Man, I love Pokemon>play the new entry>pokefags: Man, I fucking hate Pokemon!!!>boot up hgss>pokefags: Man, I love Pokemon>endless love hate relationship with seriesI want to know which fans are more schizo.
>>722646119>recolourstime stranger even jokes about thisthere is a solarmon you can repeatedly call hagurumon and he gets upset and corrects you about how different he is and not to confuse him with hagurumon. he has multiple quests and you can keep bringing it up and he says a bunch of different shit to you about it.most recolours are like the terriermon/lopmon situation where they go out of their way for them to have a link but be different rather than just being too lazy to make a new digimon type of deal.
>>722646148uh oh based
>>722646147google it retardthere are plenty of examples of people getting away with it in official events.much like you trying to fixate on egg moves, you are ignoring that even people who have won events have had illegal movesets. there is a "world champion" who won with an illegal moveset.plenty of people get away with explicitly cheating in tpci events with things you should not be able to have, and by regulation any genning is cheating let alone what people actually do get away with.you just straight up don't even know what you are talking about regarding the format and just spouting generalist bullshit.
>>722645493You moron.
>>722626040>Digimon is made on a shoestring budget and it has shown that every single game.>>722645146Is this your high-budget franchise?
>>722646119>I'm going to be frank, I don't get why people make such a big deal about recolorsBecause half the point of a monster tamer is to obtain every monster, no pokemon didn't invent that just about all of them have a compendium and a reward for completing it. Recolors not only feel like a cheap way of padding out a game that was only done in the past due to limitations like storage or visuals. As much as you want to say that pokemon don't feel unique, which obviously they do because they have different designs, the recolors literally are not unique, most share the same animations and moves so it just feels like the video game equivalent of pulling a common card in a different rarity.>85% of the game is just the 1v1 kindKind of a moot point to make because it doesn't invalidate the existence of the other battle modes, hell SV's final DLC had just about every battle be a double battle and it's not as if raids aren't something you can't choose to play.>That's not a Pokémon qualityNo one said pokemon was the only game to have it but it's definitely a rarity among monster tamers Digimon doesn't usually have it, SMT doesn't, DQM doesn't, only YW3 had some.But in just about every pokemon game you had some kind of non-battling minigame, side game, etc to break up the main game if you wanted to take a break from it.>I don't remember Hoen or Kalos being that great to exploreThen you didn't play them. Hoenn was filled with optional areas and the regi hunt is still one of the best examples of that in the series. Kalos didn't have many areas off the beaten path but it wasn't as linear as your average Digimon game.
>>722646119>Dragon Quest Monsters does that,It's only about a single step up however given it's usually >cast X at the start of battle Which still doesn't come close to pokemon where certain abilities can redirect attacks based on type, change the terrain or weather, change form, change their typing, grant them new immunities outright, etc. >Because each monster in that has at least 3.You could say the same for pokemon with the introduction of hidden abilities.>but it's inherently just as boring as the others. Ignoring the fact that you can't remove it, since it's basically a core aspect of RPGs combined with abilities that can change weaknesses and resistances it becomes somewhat less predictable than the other games. Not to mention there's less advantage where in pokemon it's just additional damage while SMT can give you additional turns.All in all pokemon is still the game that comes out on top.
>>722646341If there are plenty examples why aren't you posting them? You're not exactly proving your point just screaming into the ether.
>>722625752This. And GameFreak doesn't seem like a good 3D game dev. They struggled ever since the 3DS. They really need another dev studio to help them with the next game because its getting ridiculous.>>722631841Based. I forgot you can do that. There are too many Digimon I want to make.
>>722647161They had another studio help them with BDSP and lol
>>722638403Someone should catch this creature and keep it in perpetual starvation, then place the same treats it ate here next to it in a glass with a vented lid so it can always smell and see it the pastries but it never eat it. For fun.
>>722626373>The new Digimon title has 460 monsMore like 230, half of the Digimon are just palette swaps.
>>722627457Oh yeah, the comp scene, the one played that maybe 1% of pokemon fan
>>722645348>a focus on explorationpokemon games have little to no explorationwtf lmao
>>722647126>provide specific examples>provide other types of situations that have occurred>all get ignored as you laser in on a single thing that has changed in the latest games that makes that case no longer apply in new competitions but was still a big issue in all prior ones>everything else I said gets ignoredScroll up if you want examples then retard, you ignored them earlier and tried to gotcha me with flagrant intellectual dishonesty.You already got them and are now asking for them because you cannot read.I accept your concession.
>>722635603neither of those are good
Wild that /v/ became the better place to talk about this game than the /vg/ general. Almost is never like this with new releases these days.
>>722647425And yet you haven't provided a single example.
>>722647562/v/ is the worst place to talk about Digimon because all of the shitposters are obsessed with fucking pokemon.
>>722625704Wasn't Kimeramon originally a Mega?
>>722643917It is good JRPG. It is a time sink so you should only play if you like JRPGs and Digimon. 7 hours in and it feels like I am still very early in the game. This must be a 120 hour sort of game.
>>722647640No.
>>722643473Don't forget>Agumon but bovine growth hormones
>>722626123kek
>>722626123>>722629287Wouldn't you have to count forms for pokemon too?
>>722647583I accept your concession
>>722647031>Because half the point of a monster tamer is to obtain every monsterThe point of a game is to play the fucking gameI've literally never gone into a pokemon game and gone "oh boy I can't wait to catch one of every single one"
>>722647972You don't know what an example is do you.
>>722647562You must be confused, /vg/ is the containment board that's only good for checking the OP pasta links and immediately leaving to avoid contamination.
>>722648018I accept your concession
>>722648013Then you don't like monster tamers. They're literally collectathons where the collectables are party members.
>>722642860>A friend of mine almost literally considers nintendo part of his family, was touched when he was sent a birthday discount from them, and stops speaking with me for a week or so if I mention piracy kekEven if you made that up I can totally believe someone like that exists.
>>722648083>Then you don't like monster tamers.But I do, sorry faggotIt isn't your purview to tell me what I do and don't like, that's for me to tell you and you to shut up and hear it
>>722647640>>722647789Im sure it was mega on world 2
This is still the most kino moment in all of Digimon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVRCJ3pzL1s
>>722648083no its about team buildingthey are rpgs with lots of different characters you can play with and very modular characters.you thinking its a collectathon is just a you thing, no one ever expects to collect every monster in a monster tamer. they want them all usable so they can use the cool ones, but no one makes it a mission to always get all of them.
>>722626040If you ignore the DLC and expansions Pokemon Scarlet Violet actually ended up having fewer Pokemon than Digimon in Time Stranger, it's 400 vs 450. In Time Stranger pretty much all Digimon have at least 1 signature move too, that isn't the case for PokemonThe only defense you possibly have is that Scarlet Violet is open world. But the way it was done I would argue doesn't really help it that much in this comparison
>>722648083No, that's just you falling for a marketing tagline on one of them. No one "100%" monster raisers, even suggesting that shows deep ignorance of the genre.
>>722648258>No, that's just you falling for a marketing tagline on one of them.>>722647031>no pokemon didn't invent that just about all of them have a compendium and a reward for completing it
>>722648182Yeah, he's literally only a Mega in World 2 and in nothing else.https://digimon.fandom.com/wiki/Kimeramon#cite_note-1
>>722648287>and a rewardNobody gives a fuck that you caught them all and got a certificate
>>722647031>which obviously they do because they have different designsI mean from a gameplay perspective. There's a reason I got into like 6 arguments about why I don't like the personality ability thing Time Strangers has. CS was already bad enough. I don't want to spend time getting guys, but then using them is just an aesthetic choice. WIth a recolor you can give it different stats and shit.>Kind of a moot point to make because it doesn't invalidate the existence of the other modesIt isn't fun. I don't need a better reason. It's only the main one because of tradition and the fact that Pokémon is the beginner RPG you give to a 6-year-old, so they can understand how to play normal RPGs. I believe half the reason Pokémon is so big is because it's the most accessible and easiest one on the market. It's the other RPG people who don't like the genre that eat up.>the minigame thingThis sounds like a cop out answer, so I'm willing to lose on this point. I realized I don't give a shit in the middle of reading that. Do mini games really matter? I buy these games for the monster gameplay not curling or slot machines. If you need to break up the RPG, just put a puzzle in the dungeon or something. >>722647072>>cast X at the start of battleThe better reduction would be that everyone was just "the mosnter is better at this spell type">You could say the same for pokemon with the introduction of hidden abilities.No, that's more comparable to breeding autism. But nowhere near as close because you don't make 2 pokemon with specific moves fuck order to create pokemon with secret moves. Unless you do.>it becomes somewhat less predictable than the other games.Every other fucking area is monotype. It is extra predictable. That doesn't even dismiss my point. The elemental damage mechanic is just op to the point the rest of the mechanics like buffs and weather barely get to matter.>>722647562Generals are always horrible; that is not a surprise.
>>722648287False.
>>722645549Holy kino
>>722647776It's 40 hours for pretty much everything in-game, unless you want to unlock every digimon.Enjoying it so far.
>>72264777620-30 hours for story and a few side quests. Around 40-50 for everything.
>>722627457HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>722648517Are you still samefagging?
Comp is such a gay word. Just talk normally.
>>722625704It took years upon years of blood sweat and tears
>>722648646When I read Comp I just think of Mega Man Battle Network. Those games fucked so hard.
>>722648558>samefaggingThis may surprise you but there's more than one person + you in any given threadI myself was considering piling on with a laughing anime girl reaction image, but I decided you hadn't done enough to earn it
>>722648676Man, wayyyyy better graphics than palworld.
>>722627457RNG filled gameplay is NOT competitive
>>722646570>high-budgetBandai is the biggest toymaker in the world. They have all the money they want.
>>722648676its a jokemon thats why it doesnt have any flashy animations dumb digijeet.
>>722649020
>it's ok when digishit does it10 years of development btw
>>722648348>I mean from a gameplay perspectiveThen that's a moot point since your issue isn't with the monsters but the fundamental idea of rpg combat. It sounds more like you want a game to change on the fundamental level with each monster.>It isn't fun. I don't need a better reason.The you don't have a real reason, like I said it doesn't invalidate the other modes they exist together whereas other monster tamers just have the one mode.You know this isn't a conversation about your personal opinion right?>because it's the most accessible and easiest one on the market.If that were the case then pokemon wouldn't be the top dog because while it isn't exactly the hardest to understand it's not exactly the most simple. All things considered the Digimon story games are easier than they are but the problem is that they're a lot more tedious.>If you need to break up the RPG, just put a puzzle in the dungeon or something.If you have a game with random encounters that's not going to do anything. In fact in general you would have to stop all encounters in the room with the puzzle.Anyway that would only work for the main game for a game like Pokemon where the game doesn't end at the end you would be left with nothing but the battling gameplay and collecting monsters and it isn't an action game where the variety can come from the fight.>The better reduction would be that everyone was just "the mosnter is better at this spell type"No, because a lot of the ones in DQM are just cast X at the start of battle or perform move twice. They're very basic abilities.
>>722625704The monster design is dogshit half the time though. Even if it's a chimera, this thing is atrocious.Things like>shark with a dragon head as a hand and a gun for the other>semi naked women with a mask Are not great monster designs desu senpai.SMT is better in every single way.
>>722625704Why did they put this kind of effort into a game that otherwise has the premise and artstyle of the most generic 8th gen atlus slop you've ever seen
>>722648348>that's more comparable to breeding autismHidden abilities have nothing in common with breeding, especially since they added an item that can change a mon's ability to their hidden ability.>But nowhere near as close because you don't make 2 pokemon with specific moves fuck order to create pokemon with secret moves. Unless you do.That's just saying you prefer a far more tedious form of breeding.>Every other fucking area is monotypeWe're talking about pokemon, a biome has very little to do with the mon inside and most mon are dual typed.>The elemental damage mechanic is just op to the point the rest of the mechanics like buffs and weather barely get to matter.If that were the case then people wouldn't use buffs and debuffs.
Did they add more coomermons at least?
>>722649145Wait, that animation is in time stranger?
>>722633359>*Why don't Digimon games have good monster progression and coherent gameplay mechanics that don't change in every game?
>>722649349Yeah, the game has a ton of lazy animations like that. It's surprising, considering it's just a corridor with barely any exploration.
>>722648721That's not a post /v/ would care enough to put that many replies into, the thread isn't moving any faster, and I've seen similar behavior in other Pokemon threads. You're samefagging.
>>722649546Whatever helps you survive, anon.
>>722649576>concedes immediatelySee?
>>722649606You'll live.
>>722649284If SMT was any good, it wouldn't have gotten swallowed by an insipid dating sim.>>722649546>That's not a post /v/ would care enough to put that many replies intoI can think of very few more ridiculed demographics, and among those are 3 with heavy comp pokefag overlap: pedophiles, trannies and furfags. Smash players too, come to think of it.
>>722630771It's Hamtaro.THE Fucking Hamtaro
>>722649253>It sounds more like you want a game to change on the fundamental level with each monster.Is it wrong to want the different party members to play like different party members?>other monster tamers just have the one modeThat one mode is generally fun. Shouldn't the main mode be the most fun?>If that were the case then pokemon wouldn't be the top dog because while it isn't exactly the hardest to understand it's not exactly the most simpleOkay now you're getting delusional. I can't properly argue this because you're clearly living in a different reality. You know most people don't play online right?>No, because a lot of the ones in DQM are just cast X at the start of battle or perform move twice. They're very basic abilities.Motherfucker I checked.https://game8.co/games/DQM-Dark-Prince/archives/435964 This is the only one with cast at the start traits and there's 3 more rando ones.https://breezewiki.com/dqmj/wiki/Traits None herehttps://www.woodus.com/den/games/dqm5ds/traits.php Barely any in here and a few of them are negative>>722649298>That's just saying you prefer a far more tedious form of breeding.You call it tedious I call it actually rewarding pic related>, a biome has very little to do with the mon insideEvery gym and elite 4 member>If that were the case then people wouldn't use buffs and debuffs.People never have to in these games.
>>722625752Fpbp, pokeslop fanboys are truly the lowest form of life
>>722649868>Is it wrong to want the different party members to play like different party members?You're playing an rpg. There's an extent to that. That said pokemon is probably going to be the only game that can do that given other games allow you to inherit moves across evolutions/Fusions etc and don't have different variables like STAB which also adds on to the other point about pokemon not being simple. >Shouldn't the main mode be the most fun? Again, this isn't about your personal opinion. If you don't find it fun but choose to not explore anything else that's on you. >I can't properly argue this because you're clearly living in a different realityYou weren't arguing properly in the first place. From the start you were replying like your opinion was fact.>Motherfucker I checkedYeah, you wouldn't have had to if you had read properly. The point is that DQM had generic abilities and then I gave two examples from both the most recent game and an older one, no one said those examples applied to every game in the DQM series.You've basically wasted your time to prove my point because every single one of them is still generic. >You call it tedious I call it actually rewarding pic related It's tedious. After all most of this you can only realistically achieve at the end of the game and because most of these games don't have much content at the end of the game there's no point to obtaining them. But at least it isn't Digimon where you'll get a useless Digimon like most of the armors and the armors are locked to late game items well after they've been outclassed. >Every gym and elite 4 member Predominantly use dual typed pokemon, yes. >People never have to in these games. People use them all the time anon especially in the battle tower and other expys.
>>722649868>People never have to in these games.story is the "monster hunter village quests" of pokemon
>>722651708>From the start you were replying like your opinion was factand you aren't as well?
>>722647810>HGH AgumonHe can be whatever he wants. I've never seen a Kamehameha Nova Flame from a Greymon before or since.
>>722651980NTA but looking at the post you're replying to only the part about the tedious fusions/evolutions is really an opinion and let's be honest, he's not wrong. I remember trying to fuse for Nimzo in DQMJ, it's one of the easier ones to do but it's still like a 5 monster fusion or something like that.
>>722625704I remember playing a digimon game that starts in a island with a boss you can't beatName?
>>722645115>This is why Pokemon should go HD2D like Dragon Quest 3This doesn't fix anything because the problem with Pokemon entirely stems with Game Freak's outdated workflow, a common issue with Japanese companies. They are still doing the same shit they did before which may have worked in 2005 but doesn't work in 2025. They failed to adapt and trying to have hipster 2D over 3D with extra bloom can't mask that issue.Octopath sucks and the DQ3 remake sold well because it's DQ3. Sprites also take even longer to make than 3D Models but retards on /v/ just cannot wrap their head around that. Plus, if whatever they make is going to sell anyway why would they bother going with your shitty idea to begin with instead of just maximizing profits with the shit they make now
>>722625704So is it possible to get this motherfucker in Digimon World 2 or not? Or is the 99th floor of Tera domain a myth?
>>722625704You don't need to post the new one. You can ask the same question using a pic from the one made in 2015.
>>722653275Not really.
>>722653597Really. This is rendered in resolution 16 times higher than the Digimon picture I posted and Abra still looks worse.
>>722653728I mean, sure if you're half blind.
Only zoomers put more value in graphics over gameplay and no one can say why pokemon isn't better without getting information about both wrong.
>>722653913>come to a thread about graphics>"why are they talking about graphics?"
>>722654045>come to a thread about graphics to talk about graphics>"why are you saying only we care!"
>>722653913>We don't need graphics, we have gameplay>We don't need gameplay, we have soul>We don't need soul, we have brand awareness
>>722653728Legends Arceus was so comfy. Z-A does not give the same vibes
>>722654045Criticism of people who are invested in gaming purely due to graphics is still talking about graphics anon. Just because you were offended by it doesn't mean this isn't the place for it.
>>722654209Digimon does have an identifiable brand I suppose.
>>722654373Legends ZA is lucky it even still has that
>>722654335I'm not offended. I play old games on a daily basis, even exactly right now, and don't mind old graphics.But that post was basically suggesting that talking about A means you don't care about B.
>>722654447I mean it stopped at the good gameplay phase about 30 years ago so I guess you're right. It somehow achieved what Digimon couldn't.
>>722627457>comp Pokemon
>>722630303>Hamtaro HeartbreakI fucking KNEEL. 100%'d this back in the day
unironically ITT:
>>722654487>I'm not offendedYou are. You felt targeted and literally flew into a blind rage to defend yourself without comprehending what that anon had actually said because he didn't say you couldn't value graphics, he said that only one group values one over the other.
>>722654596Is that why you're the one posting the crying wojaks?
>>722626040>and they can re-use the models because these games aren't radically different from one another.Nigga, modern Pokemon games have been re-using the same asset library for TWELVE FUCKING YEARS
>>722645549Gun Devil looking mf
>>722654694They recent remade the models and animations between both PLA and SV.
>>722654609If you prefer to talk to the person you made up in your head, then you're free to go on.
>>722654694I think he's saying that mon like Sakuyamon and Kuzuhamon can reuse the same model and animations while pokemon generally can't, even regional forms tend to have different models.
>>722627457Jesus Christ, what a dreadful notion.
>>722654509>He doesn't knowoh no no no no
>>722627457AHAHAHAHHAHA
>>722654862It's pretty dehumanising to say you don't exist anon
>>722655441It's pretty strange to pretend you know thoughts of other people.
>>722655518It's almost as if words can convey emotions. Especially when it comes to people who can't control them such as yourself.
>>722627205The moment Honkai Nexus Anima, Aniimo or any of those AAA freemium gacha games release, they're going to lose a lot of players.Inevitably - TPH/Game Freak/Nintendo will have to try harder.
>>722655761Don't let me interrupt your inner monologue.
pokemon is popular because its popularonce you achieve a certain level of it popularity becomes a perpetual motion machine that maintains itself, people will flock to the most popular thing first and those that have grown up with it will stick to it out of sentimentalityquality ceases to matter at that point, it doesnt matter if your flagship game still plays like a gbc beginners rpg
>>722625704Is that Digimon Story Time Stranger?
>>722656058>pokemon is popular because its popular>once you achieve a certain level of it popularityYou are aware that this is contradictory right?You're basically saying that nothing is popular because it's popular because to be popular because it's popular you need a foundation that brings you to that point which would mean that foundation is what's keeping it popular and not it's own popularity
>>722626040>Digimon popularized the idea that every game has its own subsection of digimon with most of the roster being omitted every game except for fan favorites long before Pokemon had that ideathis is such a retarded take, digimon has a lot of different games, genres and sub franchises AND it never laid down the expectation of having all the digimons in every game.Pokemon did. up until gen 7 you could have a living dex of all pokemons and "gotta catch em all" was the tagline of the series.and digimon isn't selling you subscription for a bench where you can keep your mons while you wait for them to be useable again in a mainline game
>>722651708>Again, this isn't about your personal opinion. If you don't find it fun but choose to not explore anything else that's on you. nta but maybe the format that makes up 80% of the main game should be good because it otherwise reflects badly on the game as a whole i dont see whats so hard to understand about thatits a problem when your games battle system only becomes okay about 20% of the time
>>722645493Goddamn I love how butthurt a rogue tendie makes tendies.
>>722626040Okay. But why don't pokemon games have models of that quality?
>>722656150No, the point is that the series popularity is disproportionate to the quality of its foundation which has stagnated. You would expect something that is the most popular in its category to be the most high quality, not mediocre at best. the games maintain most of their commercial success through brand recognition and multimedia synergy, they are not number one by virtue of actually being one of the best
>>722656565Coz gamefreak simultaneously is incompetent and knows they don't need to do better.
>>722633258if only scamco spent as much in the games as they do in marketingalso where's my world 4 remake (with more than one fucking evo) you dumbasses>>722627457lel
>>722625704Currently in the Digi Forest, the combat/gameplay is basic as fuck, same with the raising aspect BUT the Digimon do indeed look fantastic and their special attack animations are really cool.
>>722656602>the point is that the series popularity is disproportionate to the quality of its foundation which has stagnatedWhich would clearly result in a drop in popularity as it does with other series and can be seen with pokemon in the past.>You would expect something that is the most popular in its category to be the most high qualityWhich is usually the case with very specific exceptions where the brand was turned into a status symbol like PlayStation or Apple.In the case of pokemon the perception that it isn't a particularly good game comes from people who only have experience with pokemon and thus lack the ability to compare and contrast with other series or those who value comparatively unimportant aspects of a game like graphics and voice acting which bare often the subject of criticism when it comes to pokemon but never the overall gameplay. For people who can you can see the stark difference when it comes to interactivity between the games. Most tamers don't even have something as basic as held items for instance. >the games maintain most of their commercial success through brand recognition and multimedia synergyThe problem with that idea is that the games are the central pillar for the franchise that pushes everything along rather than the other way around since it's the main vector for introduction.
>>722656565for the same reason digimon have shit animations outside the signatures and victory poses
>>722647230okay, bugman
>>722642459You will never know if you're this clueless.
>>722648161>deny core aspect of monster tamers>B-but I like them for.... I jus like them alrightPokefags everyone.
>>722659805Name 9000 people who've ever been talking about pokemon and said "hey check it out man i caught them all"You can't, because nobody said that, because nobody's cared about catching them all for fucking decades nowThere's a reason even pokemon dropped the idea from their advertising
>>722645272>Oh no, nintendo patented summoning mechanics?!man, how did (you) post the pic (you) saved and still mis-read while posting bullshit?
>>722659909>Name 9000 people who've ever been talking about pokemon and said "hey check it out man i caught them all"There's literally a "challenge" called the professor oak challenge centered around catching everything you can in a game before progressing to the next area you absolute dumbass.On /vp/ you used to actually get banned if you said you didn't catch them all.Have you been living under a rock?
>>722660137Anon, they can't differentiate concepts and mechanics. They aren't smart and probably don't have internal monologues.
>>722625752/threadPokefags are literal zombies (and smell worse)
>>722660241>There's literally a "challenge" called the professor oak challenge centered around catching everything you can in a game before progressing to the next area you absolute dumbass.Nobody gives a fuck about your single digit amount of people who've ever heard of and specifically make time to "run" this "challenge">On /vp/ you used to actually get banned if you said you didn't catch them all.>used tolol thanks for your concession I guess.Also funny how you mention an old tongue in cheek meme that people got bored of and dropped as "proof" of your serious claim, do you actually have the 'tism or something? Nobody gives a fuck about catching them all except you
>Tfw a digimon thread isn't able to be made unless it's with coomer bait or a complaint at pokemon gamesUnsurprised really.Started recently though so there's that.None of the DLC either because that looked stupid and too expensive.
>>722660380>who cares that you presented evidence that it's a popular idea! I still won!Jesus christ anon, just admit you're mad and have your tantrum offline.
>>722660453>evidenceThe fact that you even brought up the idea of a definitionally small subset of people playing your game in a specific way is actual proof the majority simply doesn't careI dunno how you've managed such cognitive dissonance that you need me to spell your basic logic failure out for you, but there it is
