Now that the Vader 5 Pro is confirmed to NOT have TMR sticks, should I just get picrel or wait for the V5P and hope for better latency?
Why does it matter if it's TMR or HE? My Direwolf 2 works perfectly since I bought it 2-3 years ago, battery life still lasts forever, there's a point you gotta stop chasing the latest tech for a 0.1% increase in performance.
>>722630025just get the cyclone 2 on tiktok shop its 42 dollars
>>722631209Had one of these before. Left stick sounded like there’s a broken spring in there or something, and the left trigger in hair-trigger mode was starting to not register some pulls/clicks after just 1 week.
Confirmed or just speculation? Gonna need a source either way
>>722631209/threadThis is arguably the best controller on the market and the best value by miles. As long as you like microswitch buttons, this is the controller you should be buying.
>>722630025How do people use 8bitdo controllers? My wrists hurt after an hour of using one. Am I holding them wrong?
Flydigi gang represent
>>7226355958bd ultimates are smaller if you're used to xbox or sony controllers, you might want to get a larger model from another manufacturer.
>>722635595>Am I holding them wrong?No. They are unergonomic as fuck. Which is a shame, because they are good otherwise
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>>722635864Any other good controllers with dome top d-pads like the Ultimate 2/Pro 3 d-pads?
>>722636150None that I can think of, would stick with Pro 3 just because it's effectively Playstation ergonomics; if you have problems with a Pro 2 or Pro 3 you're probably going to have problems with anything by Sony
>>722636150gamesir G7
OP here. Just snagged a V5P for 42bux. I doubt my boomer ass will notice 10ms latency difference anyway
>>722636834don’t do this, unless it’s the G7 Pro. The SE/HE have horribly stick linearity. Borderline unplayable
>>722636027this looks fantastic within its niche
I bought a gamesaar controller to replace a broken series x controller and while it's responsive as fuck at 1000hz and (I think) has hall effect sticks, it's so small in my hands to where I've ended up buying another xbox series controller to use on PC instead. If they make a controller with all the same features that isn't designed for handlets I'll buy it the same day because I really liked the 1000hz experience. It's noticeably more responsive.
>>722636027I would break this thing so fast, it's not even funny. massive design weakpoint diagional NE snap like ballsack
I have a Vader 3 Pro for my office PC, and a Vader 4 Pro for my main. I shant be upgrading. These controllers are amazing, I don't even know how someone could consider anything else. My Switch2 controller feels like dogshit in comparison.
>>722637041Maybe that's what I was feeling with mine. It feels like there's acceleration when moving the stick. The G7 pro fixes that and feels like a normal xbox controller?
>>722630025Picrel is what I'm getting. 3/4 of these controllers are hopefully arriving this week to me (TT Max is not out yet lol). I'm hoping ES Pro is like a mini vader 4 pro with lower latency, and with TMR sticksMy honest opinion, Flydigi's new controllers are overpriced, they shouldn't cost that much with hall effects, when competition is using either TMR or Capacitive.
>>722635767Is that a FAMAS?
>>722637041I heard the G7 Pro has a shitty rattly D-Pad.
>>722637254that’s exactly what you were feeling. Picrel is what the G7 non-pro sticks look like. Notice how it’s almost almost like a acceleration curve increase of linear? And yes, the Pro version fixes this. But they are Hall Effect/TMR sticks so they will be very sensitive which takes some time getting used to
I think my left hand is dying.Alternatives?
>>722637657What's the closest alternative to an xbox controller in feel, size and comfort but with all the modern controller features you'd expect from a 3rd party E-sports controller? Is there a website which lists the best controllers?
>>722631209I actually got it a few days ago, it's really great
>>722637657Jesus them typos and auto correction. My apologies
>>722631209I don't know why, but I wish cyclone 2 ergo was closer to V4P. I don't know if it's the plastic used, or if it's just the shape that's not same as vader. I like the shape of vader but I prefer the lightweightedness of Cyclone 2. However I much prefer the D-pad of V4P so sadly V4P gets much more use from me
>>722637657>Notice how it’s almost almost like a acceleration curve increase of linear?maybe because when the stick is tilted slightly it's easier to push it harder retard
>>722637809You want the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro. Or wait another month or so and get the Vader 5 Pro. Another viable option would be the Gamesir Cyclone 2
TMR and Hall effect are marketing gimmicks. The technology doesn't matter when the cheap thing plastic breaks in less than a year. Tons of reviews of all of these chink brands drifting
Are switch 2 joycons any good? I really like being able to freely articulate my wrists but the originals were way too small. I was thinking of getting up a pair for use on pc
>>722637936just don’t talk about things you don’t anything know about
>>722638109Look into third party joycons. I think you can attach them to switch 2 with some adapter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyblfMceIfc
>>722638019Thanks. Out of the two (or 3) which would you pick?
>>722638109They're definitely bigger but because they're still flat in overall shape profile you'll want some grips of some kind for them. If you specifically want Nintendo OEM joycons I recommend getting the joycon 2s with either Dbrand's Killswitch grips or with the grips from this case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FCYGYY7GAlso highly recommend the NYXI Hyperion Pro and Hyperion 2 joycon sets
>>722637809these are the 3 competitors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhparSxuVHU
>>722638576Which one came out on top?
>>722638672ZD Ultimate LegendI watch this guy's vids on auto-dub it's nice channel
>>722638769>that dpad Why
>>722637151It really does make a big difference, first time you use even a menu in a game you immediately feel it. Went from the Pro 2 to the Ultimate 2 and it was the biggest impact.It's like the difference between navigating menus with vsync on vs vsync off.
>>722638316I'm just reading the graph you presented, don't use a language you're not familiar with
I have an Apex 4, and apart from the latency which seems awful according to tests (but I never noticed on wireless), it just works beautifully.
Thoughts on the G7 Pro? It's recommended everywhere
Flydigi has really shitty quality-assurance to the point that Gamesir mogs them, and Gamesir does not make expensive controllers on the whole
>>722639441It has bad d-pad, and doesn't work on Switch 2 afaik. Wait for Gamesir to release actual good controllers
>>722639551the nova 2 lite already exists tho
>>722638367>>722638514Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely going third party after looking at all these
My Vader 3 Pro still works perfectly
>>722639551I don't care about switch 2. I need something for PC.
>>722639673switch and switch 2 controllers all work on PC, whether they say they support it or not
question bros. I use the standard xbox controlled wireless powered by AA batteries and is there a way to remap that most middle button to take steam screenshots?
>>722639952nta but if a controller says it's not compatible with switch I assume it's not safe to use on switch/2 . 8bitdo wireless controllers are famous for not working on switch, the wireless versions need some weird adapter (that's sold separately) and it's kinda not worth it, better buy the BT versionI had asked if picrel works on switch and the company said no
>>722640335Most or all third-party Switch and Switch 2 controllers report themselves as a Switch Pro Controller over Bluetooth which means they also work as such on PC at bare minimum, and this is assuming they don't have a dedicated PC mode.
>>722640406Yes I guess many controllers that work on Switch will also work on PC, but in case of G7 Pro, it seems to be Xbox/PC controller, and for that reason it wont work on switch.
I love the Flydigi Apex 4, it just has a ton of stick and button latency. I have a modded DS4 with TMR as well and USB C. I just picked up the Elves 2, but for some reason the dpad creeks when alternating between directions with too much force, best dpad besides that. I’m not sure if this is normal.
>>722637270When the fuck is the TT Max releasingI fucking hate DS' ergonomics but love dpad layout
>>722640702I hope it's released sometime this month, but idk
none of these controllers ever reach the same comfort levels as an official controller so that's a no from me
I was in the market for a good controller a few months ago but I couldn't find anything that had everything I wanted>Reprogrammable rear paddles>A good gyro that works in wireless mode without sacrificing analog >Force feedback I couldn't find anything that fit the bill so I just settled on an 8bitdo or gullikit or something (don't remember which), which is fine, but hopefully steam controller 2 will do everything i want
>>722641091>Reprogrammable rear paddleswhat? I think they all are reprogrammable, they're "empty" buttons that can be reprogrammed to whatever other button you want. I think all controllers have vibration so don't know what you mean by force feedback. If you mean by dualsense then I think some do that haptic thing too
>>722637334No. It’s an Ass-Rifle-15
>>722641000quads of gamesir
It boggles my mind that Microsoft is too dumb to release an updated Series Controller with state of the art Hall Effect or TMR sticks with near perfect linearity. Add some other improvements such as better face buttons and maybe even trigger stops and 2 back paddles. Basically a Cyclone 2
>>722641091There are far more controllers which do those things than a basic xbox controller alternative with lower latency and high polling rate support. Every brand decided to change the dimensions or change the feeling of thr triggers and bumpers for no reason other than to change shit for the sake of it, it seems. You'd think that would be the most obvious controller to make considering how beloved a bog standard xbox controller is.
Battle Beaver 4tw
tmr and hall effect is a meme. nothing beats alps. if it breaks just buy a new one instead of settling for mid shit forever like tmr and hall effect.
>>722641413First parties aren't going to adopt hall effect or TMR because ALPS joysticks are a ponzi scheme
>>722641605>alpsenjoy your clunky ass controls
>>722641689literally more responsive than hall effect or tmr. it's just science. but keep on licking youtubers balls.
>>722641739Why are you defending first party controller though? They're all made in China you know that right? The only difference is that the chinese companies are trying to innovate and add new features
>>722641801im not. bigbigwon makes the best controller and it is alps. i just want them to stop using halleffect and tmr cause theyre inherently trash.
>>722641837>bigbigwon makes the best controller and it is alpswhat year was that? 2023? time flies fast in tech industry
>>722630025is TMR the new "hall-effect"?
>>722641906it's still the best controller unless another alps one came out and was better.
>>722641801>Why are you defending first party controller though?They feel the best. There isn't a 3rd party controller which is as comfortable as the reference series x controller.
>>722642023alps stopped being good after hall effect came out. I'm sorry anon but this is the reality
>>722641739>responsive ever heard of resolution, retard?
>>722642073im not going to continue conversating with a retard. good day retard
>>722642073Hall effect doesn't even have the same curve as an alps stick which was already the best feeling. So it was a downgrade. TMR are supposedly closer to how a traditional alps stick feels in terms of linearity but I can't talk from experience yet. Hall effects though, complete ass.
>>722641837the blitz 2 is TMR now though and it’s even better than the ALPS version
>>722642014It's essentially a better iteration of hall-effect, has similar resolution and accuracy to an ALPS stick while consuming less power than an HE or ALPS stick.
TMR and Capacitive is where it's at boyyyys
Any cubetards here? Is the GC Ultimate worth $125?
>>722630025>Now that the Vader 5 Pro is confirmed to NOT have TMR sticksWhere did you get this source from?
>>722642814nta but if apex 5 their flagship doesn't have TMR, it's unlikely V5 has either. Apex has more expensive vibration features
>>722636027Fighting game players are mentally ill
>>722642808It depends on how hard you want a super-multiplatform Gamecube controller since it's compatible with goddamned near every Nintendo system with all those USB-C to controller port wires they offer, BUT none of them come with the system just as a warning. Past that you can control pretty much every part of the controller's internals, including reusing OEM buttons and membranes if you so choose. I'm very tentatively looking into a full indigo model myself but I don't know if I'll bother specifically because I have a NSO Gamecube controller now and I find the Gamecube layout somewhat awkward for anything that's not Gamecube games.
>>722642883So what are my options
>>722642814>>722633724confirmed>TMR Status>Vader 5 Pro - "The pc one is actually still hall effect">Vader 5S - "We are still unsure whether this one will be TMR or not "https://www.reddit.com/r/Controller/s/ZfRORF7egB
>>722643890>rubber gripsaaaaaaand dropped
>>722643946This. I will no longer purchase peripherals with the melting rubber.
>>722643102Oh I'll also add to this that the GC Ultimate is probably best-in-class for modernized Gamecube controllers. Your options otherwise are>BattlerGC Pro - its own bespoke thing, Gamecube/Wii, Switch and PC>NYXI Wizard 2 - a joycon pair with microswitch buttons, Gamecube/Wii, Switch (probably works like a Gamecube controller on Switch and PC if you hook the provided GC adapter into a USB Gamecube port)>NYXI Warrior - full controller version of NYXI Wizard/Wizard 2, similar product range as Wizard 2 including Gamecube>There's fifty billion clone Gamecube controllers floating around Aliexpress, usually as Switch controllersSo GC Ultimate is the Lamborghini option that has full compatibility with a broad range of systems, has a modernized Gamecube layout, feels identical or really fucking close to an OEM Gamecube controller, and has color options.
Do you guys also put L3 and R3 buttons on the back? After having so many controllers doing weird shit after months or years, I added them to the back buttons and my Apex 4 has been working great so far. I wish I did that with my EasySMX
>>722644083Only in games with no auto sprint. I will then map sprinting to the left paddle, and either crouch or jump to the right paddle, depending on the game
>>722636027>bulky controller sitting in your lap or on a surface regardless>Let's waste some fingers on gripping a controllerJust accept that fightpads are ergo keyboards and stop trying to mix handheld controllers into them.>>722641220>reprogrammed to whatever button you wantYes, and that's completely pointless, because it doesn't add more buttons to the controller.
>>722630025I thought the 8bitdo pro 2 was the go-to controller. These premium chink controllers doesn't seem to offer any better build quality.
I bought the gamesaaaaaar cyclone 2 from temu for just 10 USD, my dualsense has drift, lasted for a little more than a year. I currently use an xbox controller but it's pretty mediocre. Let's see how than new controller works
>>722647050I just bought a Pro 2 after Microsoft lost my controller in the mail and then we're kikes about sending another one. Hope it really is good.
I love how it feel In my hands
shiggy diggy
>>722630025How is any different from any other generic controller?
>>722637270>Gulikit ES ProIt's great.
>>722637041I bought G7 Pro and every button sounds like a loud mouse click. Otherwise good but I'm looking for a quiet controller.
>>722630025Is the apex 5 any good? I've been looking for a controller and a lot of them seem to have some issues regardless of price. ASSUS is releasing one soon too but it's like 200 bucks, requires armoury crate and their previous controllers were supposedly crap in quality.
Post you're controller RIGHT NOW
>>72264821253D
Gulikit is selling their ES pro controller for $29 USD from Amazon, whats the catch?
>>722652958I mostly play PS1/2 and some PS3 games on an emulator so I customized these two retro 30th anniversary PS1 dualsenses I had
>>722630025Unless you're some kind of competitive FPS player that uses a controller for some ungodly reason, you're not going to notice the difference between TMR and Hall sticks. And even then it's fucking minuscule.
>>722641000Vader Pro 4 feels pretty similar to an xbox controller just with clickier face buttons.
>>722653284If it's not from the official store than it could be from a faulty batch. Otherwise, they are just getting rid of inventory for the Black Friday.
>>722641685>Alps sold a package of 10 billion units at $0.25 per piece to each of the big 3 so they are stuck with Alps indefinately
>>722653284No removable batteries. Other than that, it's perfect.
>>722653893If they weren't money grubbing assholes, they could just make the stick portions a removable module that can lock into place and sell replacements so that it's not a pain when they break, but then they'll lose like 50% of their controller sales.
>>722653346Did you add some TMR sticks to them?
all of these controllers just look like bastardized xbox 1 controllers. I know basedbros gotta consume, but this is insane. just buy a used xbox 1 controller from the local second hand store for 5 euros.>But its le better i can feeell it!!!No, this is just your consumerist mind convincing you of such a thing. break out of it. REEEE!!!
>>722654486no just kept the vanilla ones since I exclusively use it for emulation, will probably upgrade to those if/when stick drift actually happens
>>722654553Or you could buy pic related for 11eurobucks. Also works on switch. It is wired tho.
>>722654553Impressive that you know this only having experienced official Xbox controllers.
>>722655715kek a palate that doesn't know anything but shit
>>722635595>My wrists hurt after an hour of using onehave you tried lifting more?
>>722637270>Tons of reviews of all of these chink brands driftingany example?
>>722640296mine takes screenshoots by default, not sure why yours doesnt
>>722653284>whats the catch?you're overpaying, its like 20 bucks if you buy it without the Bezos tax
>>722652958I modded it, it's very nice.Does anyone know if there are any good analog cap replacements that are taller than the regular ones?
>>722653346And here is a PS2 themed one I customized (behind it is the vanilla 30th anniversary PS1 styled Dualsense) - these two are in the living room so I won't need to constantly disconnect and reconnect controllers if I want to use them in one or the other room/PC
>>722635595that's carpool tunnel syndrome developingsymetrical sticks do thatasymetrical sticks are the solution or using a keyboard and mouse
>>722635595Vertical grips are dogshit.
Finally this is the thread to ask.Looking to replace my Xbox Series controller on PC as left stick is drifting and I CBA to take it apart to solder in hall effect and all that. I don't have the tools so would cost the same as getting a new controller.SO.Do you guys know of any decent controllers that mimic the xbox layout, shape size etc. Don't give a fuck about gyro. Hopefully has some back buttons. Plug and play like a xbox controller on PC. Bluetooth. Lasts a long time on a single charge like more than 15 hours.Non shit D-Pad.The gamesaaaaar looked good but it's dpad is a circle and to me thats a deal breaker.
>>722657153>>722652784
>>722657153>>722657190on this topic: how hard is it to solder something like that (and desoldering the old sticks) if I have NEVER soldered anything in my life
>>722657190Whats battery life like on the ES Pro
Are the two extra buttons underneath the ABXY buttons unique inputs, or programmable duplicate inputs?
>>722657229I did it, and between learning how to do it, practicing and actually doing it, the job took about 4 hours because I didn't have good desoldering tools and had a terrible time getting the old sticks off.I also had to resolder because the solder got loose on 3 contacts, but that was easy to fix.All in all, I'd say it's pretty easy if you have a steady hand and good tools. If you lack the proper equipment though, it can be a pain. The PCB can be pretty busy too, so you have to be a little careful so you don't knock something off.
>>722634014i can't bring myself to buy a controller created by indians
>>722655702>gamesaar No thanks
>>722657190>Look it up >Pretty much everything I want bar the buttons on the back>Pretty cheapWhats the catch...
>>722652958no complaints whatsoever
>>722657919Do the buttons sound like mouse clicks?
>>722654553you're like those retards in 2018 that still thought wireless mice were like those in 2011you're clueless but you'll inevitably be forced to see the light but for now you'll be unique in your retardation
>>722654553Because the ergonomics of the Xbox One/Series controller are fucking perfect.
>>722658176Pretty smooth from my estimation, it's not clacky at all
>>722652958(the revision model)
Are there trigger locks that have proper feedback? The elite 2 locks simply limited the movement but felt very awkward to press. I read something about mouse click like feedback but not sure what to look for.
I've only ever used symmetrical controllers, so I'm not sure if I should buy an asymmetrical one. Especially since I play a lot of 2D games.
>>722657153Vader 4 Pro, or the 5 Pro if you wanna wait for that. Mostly great quality, my only gripe with it is that the ring to tighten the stick tension on the left stick came loose on mine and loosens itself overtime as I play. Otherwise it's basically just a complete upgrade over the basic xbox controller.
I'm trying to figure out something that works natively on a Series system and the only things that seem to pop up are the G7 SE and I think something from SCUF? Any ideas? I'd prefer a wireless solution that I can turn wired, but I just want something that's not the official Xbox controller because this thing honestly just isn't a controller I enjoy using compared to the 360.
>>722652494Go read the comments in that article
>>722658952Microswitch trigger locks have been the standard implementation for chink controllers since I think Flydigi Vader 3, two years ago. Only controllers I can think of that have the Elite 2 style since then are Fantech Nova Pro and PXN P5 8K.
>>722655702This thing is pretty good for its price. Excellent d-pad, but I don't know how long the build quality will hold up. Then again, at that pricepoint I'm not sure I even care. I bought one for retro stuff where a stick is a detriment and I really like it.
>>722652958It's comfy~
Black or white controllers?
>>722662270yellow
Best third party control for Switch?
>>722658952Gamesaar Cyclone 2 saar
>>722652958only complaint is the face buttons (next to no tactile feedback or travel) and the short battery life even with all the led shit disabled. i guess that's the price of the screen gimmick.>>722657919what's the dpad like in 2 games?
>>722652958Bought it for portability, stayed for the d-pad
>>722662270how is it running? I wanted to get this one, seems very good for the price.
>>722663860fucking dammit, meant for (You) >>722662203
>>722663860>>722663935Not sure what you mean by running but it overall feels pre-"broken in" and kind of loose but in a reliable way. The d-pad also feels noticeably less stiff and more sensitive than the series d-pad. The way they did trigger stops is pretty weird though. It mostly just cuts the travel distance by a lot and sometimes it disables the trigger entirely until you turn the lock mechanism on and off again but I just leave the locks on and never turn them off.I originally mapped the 2 back buttons to Start and Select but whenever I tense up while using the d-pad I end up accidentally squeezing those buttons so I remapped those to L3/R3. Also the battery life is about 8 hours which is kind of whatever to me.
>>722658774I'm paranoid about mouse click buttons, I wish they at least used silent mouse buttons
>>722664714Mechanical buttons on controllers are trash.
>>722664770I get the functionality but don't want the clicks. Would be insane if playing with friends on 4 controllers.
>>722630025>tmr sticksWhat new meme feature are you crying about this time?
>>722664924>better sticks are... le badWhy is /v/ infested with luddites?
>>722630612Yeah, both are more resistant to drift than standard sticks so thats all that matters.
>>722665073That's not a fucking answer to the question you illiterate thirdworlder.
>>722664461>Also the battery life is about 8 hoursthat's kinda wack, honestly, I guess it's not an issue if you have it wired all the time. I wish these controllers had AA batteries.
>>722665212>I wish these controllers had AA batteries.You can say that here, you'll summon a bunch of retards who defend internal batteries.
>>722665304>cancan't*
>>722664924TMR sticks are basically just hal sticks but drain less battery, thats it.
>>722665457...who cares about something so tiny?
>>722665212I remember seeing a techtuber review the series controller and whine about how it needs AAs to be wireless (if you don't buy that battery pack) only to in another review whine about some chinkpad and how it has an internal battery. Fun times. Although I only ever really used my series controller wired without batteries and when I tried out the xbox adapter it overheated itself in 5 minutes and kept disconnecting my controller and bluetooth felt pretty bad too.
>>722665457>better sticks drain less battery
>>722665457that's not how it works nigger, the retarded high polling rate meme of most third parties controllers are responsible for the low battery life, that and the shitty 600mAH battery they ship these pos with.
>>722665848Is this really an alien concept to you? Tech can improve while also getting better at power efficiency, not everthing is an nvidia gpu
>>722630025>Now that the Vader 5 Pro is confirmed to NOT have TMR stickssource?
>>722630612TMR has better resolution. That being said as a DS3chad I personally don't really need it.
>>722665848This is like being surprised modern PCs don't need an entire city block to power them anymore.
>>722667140
>>722630025Here's what you do>learn how to solder or buy a DaulSense with TMR's pre-installed>buy some spare thumbsticks, batteries, and adaptive trigger springsthere you go, now you have a controller that'll last you a decade or longer, all for under $130
>>722667383Your phone is infinitely more powerful than a 1980s PC, and needs a 5 volt cable to charge it. Stop pretending to be retarded.
>>722668549We're not talking about phones.
>>722643285I think you have to pay up regardless. It's like with nvidia, nobody likes what they're doing to game industry, but everyone keeps buying them regardless. Buy yourself either vader 5 pro or apex 5 (if you play fps and racing games), and ignore what the haters say
>>722644083yes some controllers, especially with adjustable stick stiffeners, have sometimes broken when the right stick is too stiff and you press the R3. I think it's good idea to rebind L3 and R3 to behind buttons. Fortunately some higher end controllers have 4-6 extra buttons (e.g. ZD Ultimate Legend, 4 back paddles and 2 extra shoulders) so you still have some extras to work with even if you "waste" them for L3/R3
>>722653131>5 meatmental illness , 2 or 3 are much better
>>722630025I have one and I like it. Dpad isn't for everyone though.
>>722655702I have two of these (grey and white) and the d-pad is terrible, really boring d-pad. And also yes being wired makes it annoying
>>722657153Vader 5 Pro if you want weight, Gulikit ES Pro if you want lighter weight. Apex 5 if you want dualsense haptic feedback and adaptive triggers on xbox s/x form factor. Beitong Kunpeng 70 if you want controller better than Apex 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfMSlAc9PhQ
>>722669843>adjustable stick stiffenersThe Apex 4 itself, that's why I did it immediately in the first place. A friend got the same controller from the same seller as me, and his went kaput after a little while. It has four back buttons, so that's good enough for me.
>>722657919it's kinda small for some hands, and once you get used to xbox series ergo it's hard to go back to these switch pro ergo. the switch ergo is slightly better though than symmetrical ergo
>>722670735i have regular-sized hands and i find it comfy, never felt any awkwardness handling the controller. for reference, i come from using an xbox one controller, it feels pretty much the same even though the 8bitdo has slightly shorter legs.
>>722655702Was pleasantly surprised by this thing, it feels like a higher quality Dualshock 4 in the hand.
>>722658937the plastic is really good, and led are really cool. I think the membrane face buttons on "regular ultimate 2" is slightly better than the ones used on 2c models. also better triggers than either of 2c models (since bt is digital and wireless has some kind of weird analog with spring)
>>722658996If you like symmetrical, wait for these >>722639551 or TT max (picrel)
>>722630025I can't imagine a situation where I'd need the increase in accuracy between Hall Effect and TMR (from high to higher), and not just use a mouse instead at that point.What is the use case for needing that level of accuracy on a controller but not just going to a mouse?
>>722671038I'm worried about the "raised" Saturn d-pad.
>>722665457They also have better linearity / higher resolution than HE, so they react better and are less duller than HE
>>722671226It's going to be based d-pad, the vader style d-pad is too stiff for other than fighting games. This one is better for general gaming
>>722671059in games where you can adjust movement speed of character with sticks (since analog movement is kind of like throttle pedal in car, you can adjust it / or keep it same) so any 3rd person or top view game where you can adjust character movement speed will benefit from added stick resolution, and also games like SM64 / 3d platformers where you can play with the speed/acceleration of character's movementRacing game enthusiasts prefer their their triggers to be analog because it gives better control of the car, but if controller doesn't have analog triggers you just assign the throttle on the right stick. That's how powerful the sticks are, people forget it's "analog". On PC most people only use Kb/m and only thing analog in that is the mouse (I think), but you always use mouse to go from A to B instantly, never to actually attenuate the rate at which you get there or whatever.
>>722671813Makes sense, thanks for the reply. In return, here is the freshest (You) I harvested from a bait post of mine yesterday.
I bet none of you could pass a blind test of whether a controller is using HE or TMR.Hell, I bet 90% of you would even fail to pick out a brand new potentiometer stick among them.
>>722671265the HE sensors in the V4P are basically TMR tier. 12bit, great linearity and resolution. I guess that’s why Flydigi didn’t even bother going TMR in the V5P just for the sake of a bit less power consumption.
I have this one and it’s pretty kino. It’s the new wired model with TMR sticks and 8k polling rate. Tbqh the 8k polling rate is a bit overkill and my 7800X3D can’t take full advantage of it lol
>>722672727>$200 and doesn't even come with gyro or work on anything besides PCI have a deathadder mouse but I would never buy this, seems like an absolute scam for that price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJJK5WX8KI
>>722672173I'm sure I couldn't. As different as linearity graphs can look, it never feels noticeable in use. Even when something does feel off about the sticks, it's usually something quirky with the controller itself or a shitty sensor design independent from the sensor type.
>>722672727fucking gay that you can't even rebind all the buttonsIt's already $200 and makes you install their synapse malware, you should also be able to rebind everything
>>722630025I dunno I have a Vader 4 Pro and I really like it. For me it is the best controller I have used. However, I want to criticize the in built macro maker for the extra buttons. It has a weird latency that makes a lot of possible macros useless. They're basically there just to replace face buttons or d-pad presses so you can keep your thumbs where they need to be.
>>722672953>>722673653>$200wat. I paid 90 bux. it’s the wired version
>>722674104That is still way too much
why the fuck are the chink pads so goddamn tiny?if you think the xbox series controller is small, don’t even bother with gamesaar, 8bitdo etc. I wish someone had the balls to pull off a chonker like the duke with modern features
>>722674630could some symmetrical controller work? maybe 8bitdo pro 3? safest bet until gamesir release new version of tarantula pro
Finally extra shoulder buttons on the Vader 5 Pro.And the back buttons are more paddle-like.Still, not enough of an upgrade over the Vader 4.
>>722639551>Xbox version will likely be overpriced and cucked in some way on other platforms>other version is an ugly orange with no rumbleI want to believe in these but I suspect I'll be waiting another release or three
>>722674630post hands
>>722676646gotta have faith in gamesir, they're some of the best chefs, always coming up with good stuff more or less
>>722676829
>>722672727Horrible D pad. The Wolverine V2 was way better and not nearly as expensive.
>>722677621handjobs and cock teasing
>>722676969They're the current best chink brand in a number of ways, but every brand has their duds and I'm not going to have blind faith in any of them.
>>722652958bloody benchod
>>722678267The good thing about gamesir is that they have many different models. They already had novas, symmetrical tarantulas and cyclones, and then they just released g7 pro out of the blue and it gathered alot of interest. There are so many different game controller lineups they can work on/improve, so they have a lot of potential if they play their cards right. People mention nova 2 lite or something, but what about supernova? Supernova is still to receive a refresh, and you could argue it's possible for them to make Cyclone 3 or something, with slight improvements in the ergo or something. Them improving their tarantula pro is also amazing since it was their halo product and it's interesting to see what they can make of tar pro refresh
>>722630025Is that a FAMAS?
>My wrists hurt after an hour of using onehave you tried lifting more?
>>722657916the catch is the controllers are all chinese and made for child sized hands. it makes you wonder how those people can operate a dualsense.
I modded it, it's very nice.
>>722630025My Ultimate BT developed right trigger issues (known problem with the first gen Ultimates) so I upgraded to the U2W and they made everything just a bit better.Nicer buttons, better D-pad, TMR sticks instead of HE, HE triggers that won't break, crisper back paddles, clicky bumpers, extra buttons near the trigger/bumper cluster taken from the Ultimate C, and 1000Hz polling on the PC variant.And RGBT lights that you can toggle off with a button.Ergonomics are still the same so if you didn't like those before you still won't like the U2, and the naming scheme is somehow even more of a clusterfuck than the original Ultimate line.
>>722635767>has money for a rifle>buys gamesaarwtfWhy?
>>722635767Those grips are so good
>>722679061I never got to test ultimate 1, but ultimate 2 gets so many things nice it's realyl cool controller. the membrane buttons are really nice, comfy af, and I really like the RGB implementation
>>722679076because they are better than first party controllers
>>722679463More like most first party controllers are overpriced scams that are designed with planed obsolescence from the start.Like... The Switch 2 pro controller.
>>722679076They are racially superior.
>>722679817switch 2 pro controller is carpal tunnel simulator, with added benefit of acting as a remote for waking up switch 2
>>722656326I have one and I like it. Dpad isn't for everyone though.
>>722680072does the dpad feels like the xbox series dpad?
Cyclone just needs different D-Pad and it's perfect. Maybe similar to that of vader or a saturn style. Either would be an upgrade what it currently has, it would still weight 40g less than v4p does and it's very noticeable weight difference
>>722654486>for 5 euros5 euros!? did you just get the best deal in gaming with xbox?
luv me 8bitty pro 3
>>722630025>rubber gripsaaaaaaand dropped
I’m just glad 3rd party controllers are good now. The chinks are realizing we’re willing to pay premium for higher quality items with better QC. They don’t have to produce cheap shit anymore
gulikit es pro is on amazon prime sale so i copped one. i hope it's good because every chinese controller i've used so far has been a cheap junk knock off of the xbox controller, which is the perfect controller imo.they're either a different shape, too small or have the cheapest feeling buttons. and none of them manage to replicate the xbox trigger finger mould properly which is one of the main reasons a series x/xbox one controller is so comfortable.
>>722680675embrace the wolverine or flyshiggydiggy vader 4 pro
>>722662203gameSIRS
>>722680353Spend $1 for the plastic and put it on top, all you need.I tried doing the same with Dualsense, but some part of its internals still feels shit for diagonals.
The chink brand names are so stupid. They lower the perceived value for no reason
>>722680648very arguably better than first-party these days, even, unless it's joycons whuch are hard to get right
>>722680952don't speak to me, "razer"
>Game Sir G7 Pro>8BitDo Ultimate 2 Wireless>ZD Ultimate LegendAll TMR sticks. Any recommendations? The ZD one apparently doesn't pass the contra test but what about the others? Latency seems to be great on all with the dongle. Alternative the ASUS ROG Raikiri II supposedly releases later this or next month but it will cost twice as much as all other controllers and will likely require Armoury Crate which are both great arguments against it.
Here's the goofy little thing I bought to play Monster Hunter on my android phone, ended up just using it as my main gamepad as well after my dualshock 4 started giga drifting. Has HE, gyro, all the usual nonsense, really can't think of anything to complain aboutIt's insane that something called "gamesir" can actually be good
>>722680817i might have to if another one of these cheap controllers fails to impress.
>>722681062ok bigbigwon
>>722635767those grips are fucking cheap trash
>>722639649Same. Thinking of getting a Nova lite for when I have guests like once a year.
>>722681173Oh yeah because Turtle Beach is such a BADASS brand name.
>>722681416my v4p was like 45 bucks on aliexpress. impossible to beat
>>722655702>everywhere I check has the gray model more expensive just because of how good it looksThat feels so funny to me. I also find it funny how people either love or hate the d-pad so I'm guessing I'll just have to check for myself.
>>722679463This. The whole reason I bought my gamesir is because it has xinput + gyro, something microsoft themselves refuse to do for whatever fucking reason.
>>722681863the 5 pro is coming out soon apparently so i'll wait and see if that's any good
>>722681512>ar15 chud can’t help himself but to mod his stuffmany such cases. and by mod I mean make it worse
>>722680951What attachment is that?
>>722681994direwolf 4 will be coming out too. will be cheaper but not any less impressive. just fewer back buttons and shit
>>722681173Out of those, Ultimate 2 Wireless. The price on the others doesn't make sense for what they offer, unless you absolutely need G7 Pro's Xbox certification (I assume you don't).
>>722682149do those controllers have the xbox rumble triggers?
>>722630025All my controllers suck
>>722682029Some cheap shit I found searching for d-pads on Aliexpress and tried on a whim. I harvested a d-pad from a Saturn knockoff too, but this worked well enough that I didn't do anything with that yet.
>>722681809I forgot they even exist. After they bought ROCCAT all their products went to shit.>>722682214It's only for PC. The Xbox certification probably costs premium for nothing. I also found the EasySMX D10 but reviews seem to be better for the 8BitDo
I like my GoodMorningSaars T7
>>722681661For guests, one of these is good. It's small, cute, lightweight af, and even has gyro that is somewhat serviceable on splatoon. Model is GAM-183
>>722681896the grey is like the og ps1 colorwhilst the white is psone style
>>722677621I see the crystal therapy is going well
Does a Flydigi or Gamesir controller that says "No Xbox/Playstation" still get detected on PC as an Xbox controller?I have a handful of old games that hate my DualSense, inputmapping programs, and even steam controller profiles. Things like pressure sensitive triggers not working or analog sticks only registering in 8 directions.So I'm looking for an Xbox controller, but I can't stop myself from wanting paddles, gyro, and haptics.Will those "No Xbox/PS" ones work with something like Outrun 2006 the way an old 360 controller would, without any different drivers or mapping programs?
>>722682606Cool, I will look in to it. My gamesir dpad is okay, but it kind of makes my finger sore quick.
>>722683670>I have a handful of old games that hate my DualSensecould be you need a controller that has d-input (x-input is the newer one, which old games might not work with)
>>722683670I'm pretty sure every single controller these days uses xinput so it will be detected as an Xbox controller, I think some 8bitdo controllers show up as 8bitdo itself on Steam though and let you configure everything.
>>722683670Probably. I think they're all xinput by default which gets picked up as an xbox controller by games running on steam or anything else explicitly designed to detect xbox controllers. I think a few games picked it up as a 360 pad when I used my Vader.
>>722682785i don't think xbox certification costs anything. it just has to support all xbox features like the rumble triggers and have xbox face buttons.
>>722683670Everything from the main brands defaults to xinput, which is seen by Windows as a 360 controller.Most also have Switch Pro, dinput, and/or DS4/Dualsense modes on the off chance xinput doesn't work with the game
>>722681209The name really does sound like a /v/ shitpost. IIRC gamesir actually made the razer kishi for phones too, and then decided they'd make their own controllers afterwards.
>360 controller>charging port gets loose>dualshock 4>charging port gets loose>dualsense>charging port doesnt seem loose but wired connection is very sensitive regardlesshelpi swear im not swinging them around like bolas either
>>722684259this happened to me with my xbox one controllers. series x is the only controller i've never had this issue with
>>722684259You have to buy some controller with charging dock. Maybe 8bitdo ultimate 2 or pro 3
The Duke.
>>722684414and you think you took good care of them too?i actually dont hear people mention this problem a lot so i started wondering if instead of a build quality issue i really was fucking up somehow>>722684587i like to play wired up though otherwise i would just go with a dock and hope for the best. dualsense loses a lot of its features in wireless on pc unless that new driver changed thative tried making sure the controller was angled in a way to not stress the port/cable, i tried unplugging when not playing, ive tried magnetic cables to do both, i replaced the port on the ds4 myself twice which seemed to help for maybe a month if i was lucky each time.
>>722653346damn they look awesome, are those official or did you buy the shells somewhere else? if so where and hows the quality?
>>722685281i took care of all my controllers generally speaking. the failures all came from the shitty micro usb connector. it fucked up my xbox one and dualshock 4's. series x uses usb c which is a good connector (finally). super reliable in my experience from phones to controllers to other peripherals such as wireless kb/m.
>>722685281>dualsense loses a lot of its features in wireless on pc unless that new driver changed thatso you might have to buy a controller with dualsense feature set, but one that's also good in wireless mode. So either apex 5 or kp70
>>722679243I bought mine during the short timeframe where it was the only option with HE sticks and back paddles. Thought it was a pretty good controller, but the U2 is so much nicer thanks to all those small improvements they made.
>>72264821244A
>>722630025>picrelIt's good, if you are willing to replace the triggers with 3d printed ones it becomes great
Some of those controllers seem nice but I'm not convinced.All of my controllers from consoles still work, even the DS3 (just the shaft from the ring where the analog stick is, is a bit worn out) is still working fine.Both of my GC controllers got drift though
>>72264821232F
>Switch Pro has worse wired jitter and responsiveness than chink Bluetoothimpressive
>>722685281Most wireless controllers can also be played wired.
>>722687921whats jitter mean?
>>722636027Loooks good. I would want in non-plastic.
>>722683923Maybe but this doesn't mean they can raise the price cause of the certificate anyway. Any alternatives that I couldn't find? The Vader 4 Pro seems to be a common recommendation even without TMR sticks, Apex 5 looks overpriced and not sure about Vader 5 as well.
>>722688025Gulikit ES Pro maybe? Then once TT Max is out (hopefully later this month) you buy that, too.
>>722652958It's good but you have to ride the edge of the d-pad for it to be accurate. I like it for N64 and 2D games.
>>722630025I have an ROG Ally, I will never need another controller ever again.
>>722688025>doesn't mean they can raise the price cause of the certificate anywayi don't think so. the xbox versions of things are usually the best value or cheapest variants of things in my experience. they usually have more features because of the microsoft certification but cost the same as playstation versions and whoever else. for example, steel series headsets.
>>722688171>Gulikit ES Pro>TMR sticks>low latency with 1k polling rate>cheapwait where is the catch? I saw it has no back buttons but I never really used those.
>>722688620There's no catch afaik.
>>722687986Variance from average, higher number = less consistent. In a 60fps game, you're rolling dice on your input coming out with a 1-3 frame delay, which is bad enough wireless but impressively unfortunate wired.
>>722657919>>722658937D-pad is too recessed.>>722663419I loved the d-pad but preferred the sticks on the Q38.>>722684648The king of comfortability. I wish it had arranged the buttons better and did whatever was needed for the d-pad to be as precise as a Sega 6-button controller.
>>722688620the catch is it's made of shoddy materials and won't be as comfortable as 1st party controllers
>>722688620No back buttons, no trigger stops, basically the only thing it has that the SeX controller doesn't is gyro. Also no 2.4ghz dongle, its bluetooth is fantastic but bluetooth by nature is still less stable.
>>722688813But isn't it also lighter weight?
>>722652958I like the 8bitdo ultimate for the most part, but I'm not a fan of the dpad. Considering the Pro 3 for 2D games, and I hear it's not 'too' bad for 3D.
you don't need more than 1 controller
>>722688867>but bluetooth by nature is still less stable.how measurable is this in practice? i have one of these
>>722683829I thought so too, but an anon in the Outrun 2006 threads here said his Xbone controller worked perfectly with it. Although, maybe that was just for that one game and not the others.
>>722689116Yeah pro 3 should be ok for 3d games. maybe generally speaking not big fan of the shape of controller. Cyclone 2 has very similar "rejection" style d-pad as Pro 3 does (maybe slightly better rejection), but it's not exactly same feel (since I think pro 3 was membrane and cyclone 2 was something else). Ergonomically the cyclone 2 more comfortable than Pro 3
Why is it too much to ask for this layout but with modern controller features?If I wanted to play 2D shit, I'd use a SNES style controller or a Fightstick. For 3D shit I'd rather have both sticks in a comfortable location for the thumbs and have back paddles for ABXY things.
>>722683829If anything it's xinput that works with everything.
>>722689480xinput works with everything new yes, but older games might require D-input
>>722689210imo not very, unless your environment has a lot of interferenceI've been deliberately using my Elves 2 wirelessly to find something to complain about, but I've yet to be screwed by a late input I could blame on the connection
>>722688867I see. The features are for the Switch which explains the name as well. The 8BitDo looks then still better for PC.
>>722690215you could buy es pro now, and then later buy vader 5 pro when it comes out
>>722687956any time ive had such controller in the past, those charge port issues seem to happeni am considering a properly hardwired controller, where you cannot remove the cable, but a lot of the feature rich ones only have detachable usb since most people do prefer wireless/optional. clearly, me and micro-usb/usb-c controllers cannot coexist and they will fight me to the death, even though i never did anything to them.
>>722689210it can be all over the place but it's probably not noticeable in practice.
>>722690948If you wanna try wired controller, then gamesir tegenaria lite is one, or G7 Pro (some wired version) if that d-pad isn't a problem.
>>722681173ZD does what 8bitdont
>>722688405shame hearing about the dpad but might something i could tinker with. how much did that guy set you back
>>722691629Linear motors are kinda cool but they're super gimmicky
Stop buying chinkoid knockoff crap that has really fancy looking specs on paper, but a horrible experience actually using the goddamn thing. They're not even "cheap" anymore.
>>722691850Which controller are you referring to? I think generally speaking most of the stuff mentioned on this thread has been great/good
>>7226300258bitdo dominates the game, get yourself an Ultimate
>>722637270>let me guess you need moreThese 4 is all you need
My dualsense got stick drift today.
>>722691850Buy first party only you stupid fucking pigs, ALPS sticks prone to drift and fewer features are worth that First Party Quality™**All of these controllers are made in the same manufacturing plants with the same materials and most of the same available parts as first party controllers, because Chinese manufacturing plants aren't staffed by retards
>>722692138Hope you know how to solder so you can put TMR sticks in
>>722689127Yes I do
>tfw there will never be a first party controller with easily replaceable stick modules because controllers being faulty pieces of shit drives a majority of peripheral sales
>>722693828Sony realized the profit margins for this are actually incredible if you sell the controller for $200 and then sell the $0.10 sticks for $20 each
>>722694081I can't believe people fell for that scam.
>>722694081beitong kp70 allegedly is same haptic feedback stuff + adaptive trigger specs as dualsense, with the added bonus of being on xbox series ergo assymetrical design, and capacitive sticks.
sony are such insane scammers they dont even allow other controllers to work on ps5 besides a few select one and they also cost an arm and a leg. i really dont get why people have such an insane hateboner for nintendo when sony is genuinely the worst fucking company. i can use any controller i want on switch
>>722694263>asymmetricaldropped
>>722694367I've yet to hold a symmetrical controller that's without ergo faults
>>722694457DualSense
>>722630025Imma buy it for the better paddle + 2 extra buttons over Vader 4. Unless it doesn't have input, then it can fuck off.
>>722636027How do you hold this?
>>722694618It'll probably also have lower latency. V4p has like 28 wireless latency or something, which is on the higher mid end
>>722694710You don't.
>>722691850What controllers did you have horrible experience with? Have you even bought anything other than first party since MadKatz had the majority of advertising space?Now Microsoft and Sony WANT your "Official" controller to break or drift in 24 months.
>>722694618*dinput
>>722694257Edge's only value is in prompting Extremerate to sell clones of their modular stick caps and toppers
>>722694846yeah you have to look the spec somewhere or ask on discord. apparently apex 5 doesn't have support for d-input, so it's worth checking the status if v5p does
>saar>7 matchesshit thread
>>722694354Microsoft's the same way with Xbox.Nintendo gets more flak both because they throw their legal weight around and because people actually play their console. I've only used DS4 and Dualsense on PC and Steam Deck.
>>722694809What's the grip on the left side for then?
been using these lately, replaced the white DS's left analog with a hall effect one i got on temu but the new thumbsticks kinda sunked in so i have to figure out how to fix that
>>722696772Nah a ton of these Chinese controllers work on xbox. Some are designed for xbox first like the popular gamesir g7 he. And gamesir has an app on xbox for controller configuration. Sony are particularly restrictive with their 3rd party controller support.
>>722630025>controllers only good for platformers and emulating 2D games>give them worthless, giant mushy single button D-PadsFucking WHY
>>722679906>switch 2 pro controller is carpal tunnel simulatorHow in the world are you people holding your controllers that you even feel something like that happening? I have had zero issues with it outside of wanting it to be slightly wider and I've used it for like 100 hours at this point. Please don't tell me you're a one-finger shoulder button user because these things are always designed with two fingers. Xbox is like the only one to even bother to accommodate one-finger and even that is designed around two fingers.
>>722698954Wasn't the Xbox controller heavier than the switch pro 1 and 2?
I ordered 8bitdo ultimate 2C for a relatively low price (18 euro). Is it a good bang for your buck controller or did i throw away at some chink slop?
>>722699318Oh yeah, it's definitely at least twice as heavy when comparing the two just now. Xbox (Series) is also more cramped than the Switch Pro 2 which makes it even more confusing because that would be causing more carpal tunnel if it did that to you.
>>722637270Top left looks like a Sega Saturn controller
i own 2 direwolf 3s. i'm waiting for direwolf 4. great inexpensive controller for non-virgins.
>>722698954idk anon, i guess it's the shape of the controller, not good enough ergonomics, or maybe the plastic is too hard or something
>>722699445If you play on PC, then the wireless is generally speaking good. Bluetooth version has digital triggers and works better with switch natively. They have their places, but I prefer the bluetooth version because I game on switch.
>>722700116yeah I bought it for the d-pad, I wanna try out the saturn d-pad, because the vader style series s/x d-pad is too tight for me, only really good for fighting games imo, not loose enough for general gaming. the fact it has symmetrical shape, two sticks and two triggers is a nice bonus tho, makes it more accessible for 3d games as well
>>722685281>i like to play wired up thoughdon't do that with the ds4, wired is worse than wireless for input latency and the port can't handle it
>>722701485That's only true if the USB port is clocking at the default 250Hz. DS4 and Dualsense can push 1000Hz no problem, but they don't unless you set it yourself.
>>722652958Not bad for $40. Wish it came with a charging dock
>>722679061My Ultimate 2's right trigger broke, it only does about 70%.
>>722701831>t. guy with loose port
>>722701831Did you know that running higher poll rate is probably the reason your port is loose? I remember reading something about this, that the ps controllers "heat" or something, and it was probably the ports from running higher poll rates or something. If what you did was "overclocking", you only have yourself to blame for broken ports now
>>722701865otokonoko ass motherfucker
>>722702207Sounds like the same issue as the rest of the Ultimate family with no trigger stops.If it's a U2 Bluetooth or U2 Wireless (the type with trigger stops) then something's gone very fucky, as they use a lever arm on the trigger with a magnet on the end that gets moved towards or away from a sensor on the PCB instead of the silicone domes that are prone to splitting. When that dome splits, the trigger won't register its max value anymore.
>>722691915Many of the knockoffs from turtle beach/astro, flydigi,hyperkin, gamesir, gulikit, 8bitdo and others. >>722692140>>722694827Its always about LE DRIFT isn't it? I'm tired of all the other ancillary bullshit that in spite of the TMR sticks advertised, they're still less accurate or have other problems. Or something like KK3Max or one of the 8bitDo Ultimates (I've not used the 2nd series yet) reporting as a goddamn X360 emulated pad, or having lots of fuckery that doesn't work without their proprietary windows only driver (if then), and the differences in latency between things like 8bitdo ultimate "2.4ghz dongle, but using BT mode or wired" , and "BT advertised model, using 2.4g or wired". Or lacking features that work properly (oh, the motion control features only work if you set the thing into switch mode?) or aren't detected at all (advanced haptics / trigger even though the thing claims to be able to support them and you're playing a game that uses them on PC etc). Chinese controller brands are big on the spec sheet, shit experience in actual use in my case and throwing in lots of shit in that sounds like great features but halfassing or fucking them all over is well in line with my experience with other Chinese products like phones and set-top boxes. Impressive on paper, but that's where it stops.
>>722637270>TT MaxI hope the d-pad is good. Could potentially be my new all-in-one daily driver.
Can someone riddle me this?Pic related is an awesome concept imho, you can swap between PS symmetrical and XBOX asymmetrical layout, as well as swap A and B buttons and X and Y button to switch between XBOX and Nintendo layout, and it's even better when it's on sale($35 right now), but why the fuck don't they also offer PS buttons?>inb4 sony owns the symbolsthere's plenty of ways to get around that and many unauthorized 3rd party controllers do that without issues, and if not that, why has no one made a similar concept but with 3d printing?there multiple controllers that allow you to switch this or that layout, but NONE that makes it so you can switch between ALL layouts, and that would be a perfect controller.
>>722703982forgot pic
>>722703552>reporting as a goddamn X360 emulated paddon't most pads do this?
>>722703552>Or something like KK3Max or one of the 8bitDo Ultimates (I've not used the 2nd series yet) reporting as a goddamn X360 emulated pad, unironically microsoft's fault, xinput has best compatibility and they haven't forced adoption of its successor gameinput which supports basically any feature under the sun
>>722704054i have one of those things, the idea and execution are sound but the controller is not wide enough for comfortable symmetrical sticks
>>722704792this. I've also read some negative report on hlplanet about zd o+ excellence being used in "symmetrical" layout, that the article writer had to sandpaper the symmetrical faceplate so it could fit better https://www.hlplanet.com/zd-o-excellence-review-part-2/Maybe not all modulars are bad in symmetrical shape.. victrix bfg recently received "reloaded" refresh/update, but I guess it's a bit expensive.
>>722701865comfy lightsrelaxing clicks<3
>>722704491Not when they're trying to offer any feature that isn't on an Xbox, much less a goddamn Xbox360 controller. You can use DirectInput, or some combination of other features, or just at least register as an Xbone/Series. When you use a DualSense or Switch Pro (not sure about 2), it uses other options to support all the rest and its pretty compatible. I can go play Death Stranding or Ghost of Tsushima on PC with a DualSense and get all the movement, haptics, audio etc..and other stuff without issue. Trying todo that on a chinkpad is usually a shitshow even if it claims to have all the features.>>722704725but somehow all the others, including stuff like DualSense or Switch Pro manage to work without an issue. XInput and GameInput are great but chinkpads should be standardized on that sort of thing, especially on PC if they claim to have motion, haptics, advanced DualSense features, triggers, mic/speaker etc. The others have predictable often FOSS workarounds but chinkpads seem to do the shitty thing and because of that its difficult to even get 3rd party driver packages (including Steam, some emulators with their own drivers etc) to actually support all the features they claim they're utilizing in the hardware. That's a level of nonsense that I can't accept, especially when the only 'solution' is to use the usually Windows only, proprietary, utility and set the controller to certain special modes as it wishes. I get an overall better experience with first party recent hardware not having to worry about any of that.
>>722704792that's beside the point though, cause i wasn't talking about that specific controller, but about the concept itself always letting you mix and match layout but never offering ALL the options to do so
