was Sonic actually considered cool in the 90's? I am a zoomer and so I don't know these things
>>722632261Yes retardThere, end of thread. Not sure why you needed to ask such a stupid fucking question.
>>722632423can you provide a personal anecdote to confirm your experience or am I just supposed to take your word for it
>>722632520when sonic the hedgehog 3 came out, it was such a huge deal that mcdonalds had sonic the hedgehog 3 happy meal toys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z6S6SErYA
>>722632520>>722632713https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R2vFDIBToIthere was also a saturday morning cartoon.and candyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ikbAq_qh1E
>>722632520How exactly am I supposed to confirm that? I'm 40, he was everywhere from Happy Meals, Cereal boxes, Spaghetti-Os, multiple cartoons, the longest running comic series based on a video game franchise, toys, multiple movies now, the literal flagship mascot of a company that despite they dropped out of the console wars still uses Sonic as their poster child. They have the SEGA arcase in Japan with Sonic being the mascot there, he's appeared in multiple games, he's crossed over with DC, Smash Bros, a Shin Megami Tensei mobile game, clothing brands....Like god damn kid, the fuck else you want me to say?
>>722632920>I'm 40Absolutely grim lol
>>722633102You want to be anymore vague about that statement? You think you suddenly stop liking things because you get older?
>>722633102one day you will become old too and will have to explain to your wife's son what tiktoks were.
>>722633102you are dying
>>722632920>How exactly am I supposed to confirm that?>proceeds to confirm itread your own posts before hitting the post button
>>722633264Kid, you could have easily found out this shit yourself if you were not so fucking useless.
>>722633306that was my first post ITT and your post has nothing to do with what I say. you don't need to reply to everyone, just take the criticism and move ongod I hate third worlders
>>722633238Aren't we all? lol at least I'm not 40
>>722632520It had Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson was cool>b-but the case!NOBODY CARED
>>722633441How is that critism on my part when you're too fucking stupid to do your own research and completely ignoring the fact that Sonic IS STILL AROUND TO THIS VERY DAY FOR A REASON.You're one dumb kid.
>>722632261>was Sonic actually considered coolNot really cool, but the Sega Genesis games had left the franchise with a good reputation.It was totally acceptable for a kid to like Sonic - I don't know where it all went wrong exactly, but somewhere along the way the games got a reputation for being shit and the fanbase got a reputation for being really, really fucking cringe - the former DID proceed the latter though, so normies had ample chance to grow out of it and escape.My very first video game ever was Sonic & Knuckles, gifted with a Genesis - I didn't ask for it (or even know what video games were) - but I still have good memories of the game - nowadays I don't touch the franchise and haven't seen the movies or anything.
Yes. But not only that. You were considered cool if you knew the Super Sonic code for Sonic 2.I will never forget being at an orthodontist's office where they had a genesis in the waiting room, and just going Super Sonic infront of a kid who had no idea that was even a thing. Hadn't heard a single syllable out of him and then "--Wh-- WHOA. HUH?"
>>722633635>(or even know what video games were)
>>722633525sigh okay, I'll spell it for you so that you can reflect a bit and get better at posting: I never had the same doubt as OP
>>722633768Then shut your goofy ass up.
Getting rid of Chao Gardens was the most fatal mistake. I was playing Sonic all my life, and I got addicted to their new creation in SA1 and 2. Then Sonic 06. Everyone said it was a buggy fucking disaster, but that didn't matter to me so long as it had a Chao Garden. After all SA1 and 2 were buggy messes as well."No Chao Garden."I dropped the series forever.
>>722633967>Getting rid of Chao Gardens was the most fatal mistake.So sick of this psyop, I never knew anyone who gave a flying fuck about Chao Gardens.
>>722634069You never knew anyone to begin with KEK
>>722634069Oh shut up faggot. And stop using these words. Old words are fine.
>>722634439This site is meant for adults. You should not be here until you're old enough.
>>722634554Okay then, no one cared about the Chao Gardens. No one cares about Tamagotchi or V-pets. That's some girl shit. That's why it never took off in the states like they were hoping.
>>722632261Yes, he was. But what autismos don't understand is that something that was cool for little kids was not necessarily something that would be widely accepted as cool for everyone The 90s was more than geometric shape patterns and cartoon characters with backwards hats telling to not do drugs if you actually GREW UP in it. It was the year of Grunge, The Crown, Mission Impossible, Gangsta Rap, Losing My Religion, Beavis and Butthead, Environmentalism debates. Fuck, Wolfestein and Doom release one year after Sonic, your experience and notion of what was "cool" was pretty much dependent of your situation and what you had access to. You could find people making fun of how corporate safe Sonic was even back them, like you could find people making fun of washed up hacks trying to remain relevant while still being stuck one decade behind, like Motley Crue, Billy Idol, MC Hammer. Sonic was kinda seen like that for some teensOf course nothing of this matter, it's all corpos trying to sell you crap on different levels, Sonic games where good, that's it. But there is still a reason why Mortal Kombat is still the third best selling Genesis game and not Sonic 3
>>722632261"Sonic vs Mario" was a real thing at one point, if you can believe it.
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>>722632261The way "what was cool" worked was in a school by school basis. Overall, he was cool but at my school Sonic was seen as dorky and try hard. Until Shadow came along then it was all cool for some reason.Pokemon was also loser shit after gold/silver and digimon was cool but both were loser shit when we started getting YuGiOh cards. And then we got hit flavour of the month shit for a while where whatever cool new anime or cartoon people were really into and then a few years after that people seemed to mature enough to accept others having different interests and then it was off to high school.
>>722634824Where the fuck did you go to school?
>>722634892Straya.
>>722632261cool spot > sonic
>>722634927>Australia>The country where you're not even allowed to play DOOM, or have weapons for defense, or sharp objects, and people live in a borderline communist country where you can't make too much.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, nobody gives a fuck about a country being controlled by Karens.
>>722635053Anon, this dumb fuck didn't even know Sonic was popular there's no way he'd know who or what cool spot was.
>>722635113I've played Doom as a kid and you're allowed knives here. Just can't wave it around in public. I think you're confusing us with somewhere else.
>>722632261Way past cool in fact
>>722632261WHO ARE THAT DEER AND BUNNY
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>>722632261He was cool. But it wasn't the way furries view him.. He was perceived cool in a completely different way back then
>>722635304>I've played Doom as a kidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia>Mother Russia Bleeds>Blade Runner Enhanced Edition>Hunter × Hunter: Nen × Impact (lol what?)>South Park the Stick of TruthThat's just a few prime examples from this very large list. Your country is stupid as fuck
are you smoking yet?
>>722635581Doom isn't on that list but we've always been weird about some games if it has drug use with any mechanical benefit and sexual assault.Not gonna get shitter shattered over it. Nowhere is perfect.
>>722632423What's wrong with asking and why are you taking it so hard?
>>722633469But you will be. You might not even reach it.
>>722635581>Deathsmiles I & IILmao fucking aussies missing out on Cave's best
>>722635743>No where in perfectLeast men can be men in my country.
>>722635872Didn't realise being a man was so dependent on a couple games easily pirated and waving knives around in public. What are you even on about anon?
>>722635857Sure man sure
>>722633102It will happen much faster than you imagine.
>>722633635>I don't know where it all went wrong exactlyI'd say when SA2 introduced Shadow and inspired countless autistic children to create OCs and post about it online.Zoomies may not remember but there was a time when Sonic wasn't synonymous with deviantart.
>>722632261I think the biggest irony of Sonic trying to push the cool rebel vibe compared to Mario is that it was always the "safe" option for parents if they thought the actual most popular thing was too violent/addictive/satanic for their kids. Power Rangers too violent? Sonic. Mortal Kombat too gorey? Sonic. Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh being addicting with card gambling? Sonic.
he went fast and he whipped ass
>>722635831Because the question was stupid. He's always been popular. He's been around for decades for a reason.He's not Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet and Clank, Klonoa, Sly Cooper, Banjo Kazooie, Bomber Man, Vector Man, Alex Kid, Nights, Rayman, Mega Man, Conker, Gex, Jak and Daxter, Lara CroftHe's mother fucking Sonic the Hedgehog, he's more on the scene than even Mickey Mouse is these days. And you sit here after knowing damn well he's had multiple comics of him, movies, promotional tie ins, cartoons and animeAnd despite all that, for some reason you're BAFFLED if he was ever considered cool or popular?You're one dumb person.
>>722636159I mean, Sonic only pivoted to the "cool" style with the jump to 3D which was a deliberate choice by the creator/designer/don't remember, before that he had a significantly more cartoonish style. I don't know why it's such a baffling thing to ask if he was always perceived as cool either way.>for some reason you're BAFFLED if he was ever considered cool or popular?I'm not OP but I don't see fucking anything in his post that could be interpreted as him being BAFFLED!!!, his post was as innocuous as possible. I think you need your meds gramps, you're more bitter than usual.
>>722636369>I mean, Sonic only pivoted to the "cool" style with the jump to 3DNo he wasn'tHoly shitWhat wrong with your head boy?
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>>722636052the amount of mileage they've gotten out of that diaper lucario I hope they threw that poor autist some reals
>>722636369His whole tag line was "way past cool" for fuck sakes.
>>722633102It'll be even worse for you when you're 40. He had Sonic to look back on, what'll you have? Minecraft Steve?
>>722636052im surprised someone hasn't edited this so he's shaking his head with the regular playboy and nodding with the same playboy except the woman is a furry chick
>>722636391>No he wasn't>Holy shithttps://www.polygon.com/features/2017/4/17/15099400/how-sega-moved-sonic-from-2d-to-3d/
>>722632261Yes, especially if you were in grade school but everybody thought he was cool. Even when Sonic Adventure came out Sonic was still considered pretty cool.
>>722636502>B-B-BUT THIS ARTICLE!!!FUCK YOUR ARTICLE NIGGER. I was actually around in the 90's. I was there. I was on ground zero seeing the commercials and the cartoons and the comics and the OVA.You have no god damn idea what the fuck you're talking about.His whole persona was he was a prick, he had attitude, that was always his personality.
>>722636501Sonic is canonically into human women
>>722636369>>722636502It's not really "cartoony vs. cool", it's more a shift in the definition of what "cool" is. Classic Sonic even in Japan was flying planes and driving sportscars and other cool stuff, and I'm not even getting into how America and Britain depicted him. The shift in Adventure was a case of Japan trying to make him cool on an international level, which is what Uekawa says in your image, instead of just "limiting" him to Japanese aesthetics.
>>722636602Anon I don't know what your fucking problem is, but this is not only coming from the designer himself but also my point is that he was explicitly turned into a cooler character than how he began because he got a redesign and games started having edgier stuff like hard rock music and shit, which is in contrast to how the previous Genesis era games presented themselves, so a zoomer like OP not knowing whether he was actually always seen as cool is a perfectly valid question to have. You're having a massive fucking melty just because you loaded his question with retarded assumptions like him wondering about his popularity as a whole and not just his "coolness" and how OP is "BAFFLED" about it. Just answer the fucking question like a normal human being gramps, you went on the defensive immediately.
>>722636502Ever notice in the early 90's the west designed Sonic with a mohawk?
>>722632863That show (and the comic based on it) made me a furry
>>722636502I don't think the article says he wasn't cool in the 90s before, just their reasoning for the Sonic Adventure redesign. This was after the entire Saturn years, so a long time without a real Sonic. I can understand them being insecure about it, especially with the game market image changing a bit after Playstation and everything.But Sonic was without a doubt already cool in America (more popular than in Japan), and already had been redesigned slightly/adjusted for America if you look at the box art for the Genesis games. Not to mention the cartoons and all.
>>722636876>Anon I don't know what your fucking problem isI'll say it againYou areA god damn MoronIf that still doesn't compute, I don't know what else I could possibly say besides lay off eating paint chips.You're taking it out of context
>>722636923>>722636823I know, I'm just saying that there's a big contrast in how he looked in the games before and after Adventure so I don't see why a zoomer like OP having the question of "ok but was he always seen as cool regardless?" is such a travesty.
>>722636991Oh my god you're hopeless.
>>722632423It's called baiting. You'll become a baiter one day too.
>>722635538random extrashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a2hJ_TzXyQ
>>722632261he was cooler than mario anyway
>>722636991Ah yeah I get what you're saying. It makes sense someone who was a little kid or not around back then could get confused by the redesign.
>>722636991I think you shouldn't take it too seriously, it's just the average 4channer with a short temper. He answered the question anyway.
>>722637040No anon I have actual real hot takes I don't need to bait because I actually play video games.
>>722632863>>722632713You're forgetting the big one: The Macy's Day Parade Balloon. Even Mario didn't get one of those at the time.
Fun fact: the music was a genesisified remix of an old Renard song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXBePaQwl8
>>722637107>with a short temperYou mean impatient on educating hopeless retarded children.
>>722637107>>722636991Sonic and autism.The perfect combo.
>>722637262Don't drag me into this fag, as long as you're "educating" the people who are explicitly asking to learn, whatever. Everyone will forget about you 5 minutes after leaving the thread while you'll keep being a boomer who seethes at everything so it's a win-win.
>>722637342Which is a stupid comment to make considering MLP and Pokemon had to have it's own containment board for a reason.
>>722637373>Don't drag me into this fagThen shut the fuck up.>Everyone will forget about you 5 minutes after leaving the thread while you'll keep being a boomer who seethes at everything so it's a win-win.If you don't get irritated being surrounded by this stupid shit, you're part of the world's problems. You're nothing but a waste of everyone's time.
>>722632713>>722632863>>722637146Stuff like this is deals made by Sega (and other such companies) for the purpose of advertising their products. Macy's doesn't go to Sega asking for a Sonic balloon, Sega pays them because it's an easy way to get big numbers of casual audiences to see them. Same with Sega getting Happy Meal Toys.
>>722637470>if you don't get irritated by people not magically knowing everything i know and then asking in order to learn, then you're part of the problem!!they were right when they said the 40s is like your second puberty, you just turn retarded again.
>>722637558And you just proved my point.>DUR HUR HUR DONT DRAG ME INTO THISAlso you>I'm going to reply and teach him what's up!You're doing the exact thing you obnoxious hypocrite.
>>722637558kek
>>722634069I wouldn't say it's that significant as is, but trying to raise one to compete did incentivize replaying zones beyond trials.But the Chao games themselves need tweaking.Also also I feel they should let you use evolved Chao in the stages and like Tails and Knuckles their special skills or size lets them get to places the other characters can't. Maybe have Chaos Emeralds or Medals hidden there.
>>722637518No shit, but it's because the product is popular that it leads to a big ass balloon at one of America's famed holiday traditions.
Calm down unc fr
>>722637759The only goal of the chaos was to get the medals needed to 100% complete the game, there was no actual incentive beyond that.
>>722637806now you've done it
>>722635538The deer is Kenny's animal crossing gf.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKBvfrHtN94&t=103s
>>722637774>it's because the product is popular that it leads to a big ass balloon at one of America's famed holiday traditionsNo, that's not how it works, it's pure 100% advertising. You can argue only the biggest brands can scrape together the money to enter in the first place, but there's another level above those where they're already so popular they don't need to bother with those stunts and focus their merch deals on products for their existing audience.
>>722637929Don't even bother, these people are retards and they love having that identity because it's easier to be stupid than actually trying to obtain information.
>>722637983>>722637040
>>722632261It's not that we thought sonic was 'cool'He simply embodied the spirit of what was culturally considered to be 'cool' throughout the 90s. Coolness in the 90s: Totally Rad
>>722637897>kenny starts getting turned on only to be forcibly awoken by the Nonbinary Pride flagwhat are these guys cooking
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>>722637839I'm not even a zoomer I was just hoping for a (You) :(
>>722638045Kid, no one cares about your nonsense tactics. You're a fucking loser. If you're baiting at your age, you're the manchild. That simple. Like go play video games if you're that bored.
>>722638127So far it's worked perfectly. Through your sheer anger and desire to correct people, even with all the insults, you've given them all the info they wanted for free. You're just an angry Google to them.
>>722638207You honestly think I care what some fat fuck thinks of me?
>>722638207ah yeah cunnyham's law or something
>>722638207Teachers do the exact thing you're saying, so what exactly is your point?
Bart SimpsonSonicThe kid from Terminator 2 These were the progenitors of the '90s cool kid' archetype. What do they have all in common? They were all touched by Micheal Jacksonhttps://youtu.be/B-W6punNMjU?si=lcRZhR7mf4rmCFfq
Shadow out cools Sonic
Sanic was simultaneously never cool but also worshipped as the coolest thing ever by autists and retards
>>722638572No, Shadow is edgy. Sonic is cool.
>>722638560Macaulay Culkin too. Micheal had a hand in all of them.
>>722638560>>722638631>2025>Still thinking Jackson did anything despite one of his "victims" admitted his mom convinced him to lie.
>>722632520a personal anecdote would be just taking his word for it you dumb bitch
>>722637040Could one even become a... master baiter?
>>722636052Can someone edit this but swap the reactions
>>722640270Why don't you learn how to do shit for yourself for once you fucking loser.
>>722636490Yeah? Minecraft is legendary
>>722642165Minecraft is just legos
>>722632261Yes, and so was Cool Spot
In a Bart Simpson kind of way
>>722632261Not sure about the 90s but growing up in the 00s, Sonic was 100% considered cool.
>>722635538wtf is that real?
>>722632261Yep
