>>722634580
Now lets compare their total stock values

>>722634580
I don't think so amdrone Nvidia and Intel join forces to combat your evilness

>>722634875
kek

>>722634875
literal child porn
>>722635169
what is funny about this?

>>722634875
I will report your IP to the police

fucking idiots spamming illegal shit on ai threads.

>>722635316
no you kys pedofag

>>722634748
I can't read moon, what does it say?

>>722634580
This whole bubble is gonna burst soon and all these companies aren't exist anyway. Depression time

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>Intelkeks, Nvidiakeks, your days are numbe-ACK!

>>722635435
family monopoly... and we are the game pieces

>>722635478
>aren't exist anyway
good morning saaaaaaaaaaaar!

>>722635546
is that racism?

nigger what the fuck

>he actually posted it
holy shit so this is still 4chan after all
never change you degenerate faggots

Man, I bought AMD @ $14 and sold at $50

>>722634580
Damn, AMD could become the... uh...
*checks capex and operating income*
...second company in the world to actually turn a profit from AI!

>Intlel shills are cp spammers
lmfaooo

I just want a 24gb card for under $1000

>>722636359
5070Ti Super is going to be 24GB and match the current 5070Ti price as its taking over its place in the market since they will discontinue. Considering those are as low as $1150 in Canada that must be like $799 in the US or maybe less, so there you go, just wait a few months.

OpenAI literally has not enough money for this deal. Where are they gonna get it from?

>>722634580
How well does image generation on AMD GPUs work these days? What about video generation? Is it "everything just works" like on Nvidia? Does it run at the same speed as Nvidia on an AMD GPU with comparable performance? Or is AMDs plan to be the evil woke anti-goon GPU vendor for lefties? I'll still buy Ryzen tho at least unless Intel actually manages to make something better again

>>722634580
>you know that thing we've been saying is bad
>WE HAVE IT NOW SO IT'S GOOD
AMDjeets, everyone.

>>722636481
>Create a press release
>Claim some more absolute fantasy bullshit like all AI news
>"Just 2 mores weeks and AGI and you can fire all your workers"
>Investors clamor and give you all the money you need

>>722634580
Oh so AMD also wants to shift from being a company that manufactures products for consumers, into being a company that manufactures products for itself and then uses those products to provide an ill-defined service for it's customers with the main advertised purpose for this service being "you won't need to hire as many people" ?
Cool.
This circular meme economy where nobody works for these companies and they don't provide anything to anyone but themselves will surely work out in the long run.

>>722636537
You have about 10% of the performance of a comparable nvidia card and need special forks because it doesn't support cuda.
AMD is going out of its way to not compete with nvidia

>OpenAI pays Nvidia and buy their GPUs
>Nvidia uses the money from OpenAI to invest in OpenAI to improve their AI for their AI business
>OpenAI uses that money from Nvidia to invest in AMD GPUs

Where is the money coming from?

>>722636537
AMD works for image/video generation but it isnt as straightforward. AMD gpus typically have more vram so they are better for running local LLMs, so it makes sense why openai partners with them since they focus less on image/video

>>722636582
People are broke so there's no money to be made off of the soon to be homeless public, they want a piece of the state money pie that intel and nvidia are getting, I heard the state is making big gains from the tariff taxes lmao

>>722636778
Thin air, welcome to the stock market

yo /v/irgin fags: every Fi-Bro looking at this worth a damn is saying only one thing (as with anything involved with ML/AI): TIMMMMMBBBEEEERRRRRRRR!
Fuck this man I'm going bowling after buying more water futures.

>>722636648
>AMD is going out of its way to not compete with nvidia

all this diffusion stuff was researched with CUDA which nvidia developed. How can AMD compete? go back in time 15 years and develop something similar?

>>722636778
it's just several layers of scams and ponzi schemes until it collapses on their face

>>722636778
What the FUCK is happening???

>>722636826
>We need to poor government money into these tech companies to bankrupt countries opposing us
>And where does the state get money from if people are too poor for pay tax income to be significant?
>Why, from tariffs of other countries of course!

AIshit all over again. Why the fuck these companies keep investing in this shit?

>>722636804
Retard. Has no idea what it is talking about.
>>722636648
CUDA is proprietary. Nvidia didn't open it in the last 15 years since its inception and it sure as fuck won't open it now, when it has a chokehold on a kekrillion "industry".

>>722636778
openai's main investment comes from microsoft. And the deal they made with nvidia to buy GPUs was for the next 10 years, so nvidia probably doesnt even have 5% of that money yet.

>>722637023
Retarded human feces

>>722636886
They have something similar, OpenCL and no one use it
They then made ROCm which is the weird thing you need to install to be able to run cuda on AMD cards but it's a giant pile of hack and doesn't work all the time because if it worked properly it would compete directly with nvidia.

>>722637072
>Calls me a retard
>reiterates my point

pottery

>>722634580
Getting investment from open ai should drop your stock price. They don't make money.

>>722637281
But since it makes it skyrocket, why don't you educate yourself on why you're wrong?

>>722636886
Isn't Intel better for Stable Diffusion than AMD though still worse than Nvidia? And that's because Intel was/is actually interested in developing this.

>>722636886
>How can AMD compete?
Pay someone to make it work as well on their GPUs as on Nvidia.

>>722637220
they dont 'have' OpenCL, apple made it and they support it (nvidia supports it too). its not as optimized for consumer GPUs because apple hasnt supported those for years.

>make it work
and btw. I don't mean "make CUDA work on AMD GPUs" (they probably can't do that due to retarded laws in today's 1st world societies), rather make image generation and video generation make work well using their own APIs on their own GPUs

>>722637237
The reason why it makes sense for OpenAI to invest in AMD has nothing to do with your stated advantage, which is also stupid.

>>722636537
Lefties generally don't give a fuck about AI porn, their complaints about AI are largely economic.

>>722634748
That is a pretty distant relation.

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>>722634580
>tfw nvidia is getting into the ARM cpu market soon and OP posts this

>>722637472
Apple hasn't cared about OpenCL for years, they want you to use Metal compute. I'm not sure if anyone in particular cares about OpenCL.

>>722634748
>anon just discovered nepotism

>>722637472
Oh it was Apple? I'm surprised they were willing to share something. But yea if you have a nvidia card the performance of OpenCL is pretty bad (on purpose) same with OpenGL now that I think about it.

>>722636474
>and match the current 5070Ti price
It is cute that you actually think that.

>>722637376
both intel and amd have relatively poor support for diffusion models, they are both just emulating CUDA workflows. For example, an intel A750 performs about as well as an AMD RX7600, and both were about $250 when they launched.

>>722634748
That's further apart than I thought, from the way people talked about it I thought they'd be direct cousins or something

>>722637748
>Specs leaked
>100% correct
>Price leaked with no
>NOOOOO

>>722637480
these image generation models are the culmination of 10+ years of research. I am sure AMD is working on image generation technology but it may still be a few years away.

>>722634580
Xi trooned out?

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>>722634748
Why is Jensen a race traitor?
nah just kidding, he's based

>AAA gaming is an unsalvageable dumpster fire
>but AI will help us make shit games even faster
does anyone believe there is actual value here?

>>722637846
Just the average azn female w/o plastic surgery. (okay she's not even trying by keepoing her hair like that)

>>722634580
>Thinking this is a good thing
AMD is going to have the same fate as Jewidia where they focus solely on optimizing their cards for AI data centers rather than for gamers

>>722638142
games will be powered 100% by AI

>>722636778
The whole thing is weird as fuck, open AI has no money but they announce 300 billion dollars of investment into oracle who is spending 40 billion on Nvidia who is spending 100 billion on OpenAI who is getting their AI infrastructure from Core weave who is partnered or partially owned by Nvidia.

The whole thing is a retarded circular flow of money, other names get brought up like SoftBank who I suspect is getting scammed by this cabal of tech companies. There are also news articles of Nvidia investing 500 million in the UK who is then buying 11 billion dollars worth of Nvidia GPUs to build useless data centers. I suspect all the money is now coming from dumb venture capital and governments.

>>722638142
if nvidia spent time optimizing for AI data centers then their cards would have more ram.

reminder that the current owner of 4cahn second biggest proxy website just got MAXdoxed by the farms and you better pray he doesn't have any data saved from you using the site cuz otherwise I hope you enjoy prison faggot.

>>722637917
Seems even chinks don't want chink wives when they have the choice.

>>722637941
Yeah, there's value seeing the industry die. It's either that or we'll see that the masses (normies) truly enjoy consuming any trash. Misanthropy is justified.

>>722638142
Good news, AMD cards are already shit for games

>>722638190
>>722637023
>>722636778
you guys are like chickens running around without heads lol

>>722638190
I think you read something backwards, they didnt invest 300 billion in oracle. they GOT 300 billion in investments from companies like Oracle (and others), thats where this money is coming from.

>>722638337
Did Nvidia fix their drivers already? Or do you still have to stay on 566.36 because Nvidia doesn't care about gaming anymore, only AI.

>>722637917
Nearly every rich non-White dude in the west gets himself a White woman. Why would you ever settle for anything less?

How does this even work?
>OpenAI gets AMD hardware
>OpenAI get AMD stocks because....??

>>722637917
damn those timmy genes nearly wiped the chang out of his kids.

>>722638331
why are you doing mental gymnastics and sophistry when you were asked a very simple question?
do you see any value in this?
>yeah the value is watching it all burn down and watching the masses enjoying trash
so no then.

>>722638519
>Give 50 billion to AMD to develop AI
>Gets 50 billions worth of share in exchange
>No money was spent and they both will make a shit ton of money when number go up

>>722638409
No, they are purchasing compute from oracle. So all of oracles revenue is now coming from open AI who isn't making any money. The only companies who are actually putting money in are retarded venture capital firms like SoftBank.

>>722638569
There may be no value in it for you, but that doesn't mean there's no value for someone else.

>>722638375
>Pointing out the circular investment bubble means you're a chicken without a head
Since you understand it perfectly, where is the money coming from.

>>722638747
Where does the government get its money from

>>722638747
>talking about things you don't understand instead of trying to understand them
the funniest part about all this is that you can literally USE AI to learn more about this, but you won't

>>722638864
The government doesn't have any money they tell banks to give out loans to increase money supply or they absorb it into a black hole to take out money or pay off debt, this is irrelevant though. Point to which governments are funding it.
>>722639026
>I know but I won't tell you, instead I'll make endless cryptic posts about knowledge I pretend to hold
I'm so sick of dealing with fucking morons like you, every single discussion has a posing spammer like you

>>722639198
I already said you're like a chicken running around without a head, anything I say to you will go out the other ear
you and I both know this, you irrationally hate AI and the people contributing to its progress as well as the people using it

>>722639198
Circumcised and autistic

>>722639260
Yeah, you already said you know all the answers but won't give any to him.
So why fucking post if you already communicated this information?
Because you're not actually communicating real information and never have.
Because the reason you post "I know and you don't you're stupid haha!" shit is clearly to make yourself feel intelligent on a Bangladeshi weightlifting forum, which itself an intensely unintelligent act so you'll always be met with skepticism.

>>722639260
>Another post about how I'd engage but I don't have time or energy so I'll just post about how I can't be bothered to discuss it
I already told you I'm sick of talking to pseudo intellectual wankers like you who never input any interesting or relevant information into any discussion and just pose as if you're above it. Fuck off, you're a boring waste of time, stop talking to me.

>>722639425
>>722639456
mad retards
if only you bettered yourself, you wouldn't be sperging out right now

>>722634748
Big if true

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why did google have to intentionally shit up their search engine just so that their Gemini AI could compete? its so shit

>>722639549
This is a discussion, of you don't want to discuss anything then fuck off. If you want to pretend you have thoughts in that empty head of yours you can do it on a forum that has usernames so other retards can stroke your dick and give you thumbs up for saying nothing.

>>722639631
Money from the government, retard. What else?

>>722639753
Fuck off retard

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>AI AI AI AI AI

>>722639753
>This is a discussion
says the chicken without his head, running around spewing bitter nothings

>>722639827
I love that little dog just ready to fucking kill that retard.

>>722639827
Me when i forget my name and cant ask ChatGPT for it since i dont have my phone on me so i lowkey start acting retarded

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>>722639984
kek
sad thing is that there's a zoomer out there in the world who is living out this exact scenario

>>722639890
>I have investments in tech companies and it makes me mad when you say bad things about them
>No I won't elaborate because I'm financially invested and your comments are making be emotional
Yeah yeah, I'll repeat, there are forums where people will stroke your dick for defending their financial interests with empty words. If your investments are that shit that you have to do damage control on anime and videogame forums then consider re-investing. I have amd stock so this doesn't bother me on a financial level, I want to understand why there's a Ponzi scheme running the American economy.

>>722640203
>spews more bitter nothings
this is like a therapy session for you huh, you're just sperging out

>>722640128
The newer generations are so doomed by all the state sponsored and mandated idiocy

>>722640203
doesnt understand anything he said at all award!
kys

>>722639827
he looks like a jew

>>722634635
Who does this help? Investors?

>>722640203
Did you buy crypto too, since you're asking about ponzi schemes

>>722634580
Does that mean they'll get the HDMI 2.1 license and not have to outsource to the Foss community for drivers now?

>>722640402
No, I'm not a fucking retarded zoomer like you. I'm selling my amd stock after this news, I'm not interested in timing pump and dump schemes or bubble pops. I invested in amd because intel shat itself and they were positioned to continue dominating the cpu space. AI hype is for people who think getting into arguments on basket weaving forums is a good way to keep their portfolio afloat. Good luck retard I'm done discussing this with you because you're boring as fuck.

>>722640669
absolutely seething amdork

>>722640128
>muh zoomers
there are multiple millennial posters on here who proudly post their screenshotted response from ChatGPT to a simple question that an anon wanted an answer for, including a kindergarten-level math question about acceleration in a hentai game.

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>>722636778
It's pure troll economics

>>722638730
Do you like LEGO?
>i like watching other people step on lego and the fact that those sheep have poured billions of dollars into a toy that can potentially seriously injure them

you cunts are tiresome to engage with and make everything very boring and arduous

Why won't they make an x3d cpu where the second chiplet is an AI chiplet and use it for stuff like FSR? Seems like a no-brainer to me, they already have the technology.

>>722639631
How did they change it?

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>>722634580
another instance of the US putting the cart before the horse. we don't have the energy infrastructure for any of this except by taking it away from people's homes and other businesses. but guess who does have the infrastructure, and gets really cheap fuels from russia, that we made cheap by telling all the vassals not to buy it.

>>722640847
anon just like with video game devs those companies always learn from their past but never the stuff we want them to

>>722641146
when do we just kill all the jews i'm tired of waiting

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>>722636778
A small glimpse of the future. Welcome to the economic singularity.

Our money is fiat currency, it has no intrinsic worth. Some smart people ~40 years ago realized that computers let you make something once and sell it indefinitely; that is, once something is coded it can be sold without incurring an extra cost. If you make cars, you need iron and steel and wiring and precision manufacturing and some cars may have defects that you can't know about until they're on the road and so on and so on. You can sell infinitely many copies of Call of Duty after it's been produced.

So, we have fiat currency - infinite money. We have electronic goods, allowing us to sell infinite product. Why do you think the richest people in the world are tech billionaires? Still, tech used to be skilled labor. Electronic goods require a certain level of intelligence and planning to create. However, advances in technology have continually made coding easier and cheaper.

Take this idea to its natural conclusion. An AI will work indefinitely, with no breaks, for no wage. It does not get bored, it does not need benefits, it will never unionize and it will never disobey a command. It is the perfect worker. Coders are expensive. Managers are expensive. /PEOPLE/ are expensive. AI isn't. It is the final step in the puzzle.

We have infinite money. We have infinite product. And now, we have infinite workers to produce that product. That whirring sound you're hearing in the background is that of a very dangerous flywheel spinning up. One of two things is going to happen; OpenAI experiences a significant setback and the entire machine is going to blow up, or they will create an AI intelligent enough to actually produce something of worth and the rest of the economy will.

Read the first few chapters of Manna to visualize how this will look for the proles. Endless legions of homeless people living in rammed-earth dorms while their masters live in unimaginable automated luxury. Have fun!

>>722640945
NTA but there is no proof that google made their search engines worse on purpose, although he is right in that using their services to look up things online now is a bit more difficult. If you haven't noticed yet, google does not produce good results anymore even when you place major emphasis on wording in your searchbar. This enshittification might have to do with the new CEO of google being an Indian

>>722641342
>Jeets ruin yet another good thing
Can we just nuke india.

>>722641342
Can you provide an example? I dont use google for anything more than Wikipedia searches so i wouldn't really know

>>722641473
of course he can't

>>722641385
nuking india will not bring the results you want if they are doing their nepo spiderweb business in your country

>>722641146
Don't worry they've begun to offload this cancer to retarded foreign governments under the guise of data sovereignity, now the whole world can enjoy higher electricity prices to pay for American corps to burn money.

When do you guys think the AI bubble is going to pop?

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>>722641610
10 more years after a certain war has ended
won't tell you which one to make it funnier

>>722641291
When nobody has a job there's nobody to buy your product. These tech companies are not part of a master plan, they are panicking the same way the soon to be redundant worker is, they don't want to be left behind even if it's a train to hell.

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>>722641146
I did this. Every time I said "thank you" to the chatbot the price goes up.

>>722641610
It can't pop at this point. Trump will print dollars to keep it afloat, it's too big to fail.
If the bubble burst trillions of shareholders dollars will go up in smoke and we can't have that.

>>722641473
hes talking out of his ass. the actual reason is google just being jews, like every single corpo: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

>>722641610
Probably 5 more years. It'll take a while for the reality to hit that nobody is making any money. These tech firms are fucking gigantic and they have roped in governments so there's a gigantic incentive to keep up the facade.

>>722641146
your daily reminder that energy bills in the US are going up despite india being far and away the top consumer of AI products

americans are being taxed to subsidize indian AI access

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>>722641763
I say please and thank you for this reason too.

>>722634748
hakkas are literally the jews of asia

Didn't altman say AI was a bubble and way over valued like a month ago when GPT-5 faceplanted and nobody liked it?

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>>722641146
>>722641575
i can already see the headlines when your media will try to sell you another scapegoat with those spiked energy prices, that its the result of green energy or some shit just see and watch and witness

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>>722641947
nice

>>722642015
It's actually the transexuals and mexicans hogging up all the electricity for their DEI initiatives and dick cutting surgeries.

it is going to be so fucking funny when the "AI" bubble bursts.

>>722642117
why?

>>722642113
Illegal hispanic mexican cartel penile autocastrators use up to 12 GW of energy per operation

If you want to have a good laugh to go hackernews and read anything AI related. Most of those guys think AI will replace most workforce in our lifetime and AI content slop flooding the internet is actually a good thing.
Some fag today said programs and apps will be replaced with AI interfaces too.

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>>722642113
atleast the foreskin creme industry will profit, right

AI has to be the biggest scam of the current generation. Where's all the money coming from? Where's it even going? And AI just gets more neutered and gay for each "update"

>>722639767
...money from private investors, which vastly outstrips anything Google is getting from the government?

>>722641146
that's just the tip of the iceberg. wait till you realize they cool their servers down with same fresh water you were gonna use and then just dump the warmed water into sewage. this data center crap is a nightmarish techbro dystopia in making.

>>722642163
How could I forget. Illegal fentanyl kitchens take up a trillion gigawatts per MONTH! very BIGLY problem!

>>722641890
Ohhh now I understand the plan. Tech firms are getting governments to invest so heavily in AI infrastructure that it becomes a milk industry problem, you have all this supply and no demand so you mandate and propagandise for consumption. America is already in too deep to admit they may have spent too much, the goal is now to spread to Europe and east Asia before everyone realises they are building infrastructure for nothing and they should have just relied on Americans to subsidise it.

>>722642168
it's incredible that you think they're wrong

>>722642272
good morning sir ai to the moon

>>722642272
Good morning saaar

>>722642306
>>722642338
luddite bitchs they will replace the mcdonalds workers and i can make money off government subsidiry without work. LMAO. get fucked timmy

>>722642306
>>722642338
>jeets
no wonder you're afraid

>>722641146
China's grid is so overbuilt that they'd easily have power to spare even if Putin had never gone monke mode desu

>>722642218
Yes the reason why bills are up is because the demoncrats imported 12 million illegals venezuelan cartel members to perform gender surgeries in the big cities in order to create more democrat voting transgenders while also filling their anal cavities with super fentanyl

They smoke so much weed that the grow lights needed to keep up with the demand is making power plants blow up. thank you for your attention to this matter!

>>722642272
hype bullshit sells and makes you money overselling and promising to clueless boomers. Nobody with any direct involvement in the industry thinks we are getting AGI utopia. They are counting on retards like you to fall for it.

>>722642272
Assuming you aren't trolling and you're actually an unironic indian that believes this I said "in our lifetime"
If you look far enough and assuming we don't blow ourselves up in some retarded nuclear was AI will definitely replace most of the workforce, starting with office drones and moving up until it reaches construction and other jobs thought to be "safe".
We just don't have enough silicon and electricity to throw at it right now and we won't in our lifespan.
If AGI (actual AGI not AGI*) in my lifespan I will literally stream my suicide and apologize for not believing in god emperor altman.

>>722642272
The day AGI (Actual) exist I'll eat shit. But that hasn't happens yet.

>>722641342
>NTA but there is no proof that google made their search engines worse on purpose
Akshually we know from the recent antitrust hearings that they put the sales people in charge of the search business and rolled back multiple search improvements that had been made years ago

>>722642138
Some hate the video game industry, some hate the AI industry. I hate both but I still use models I can download and run locally for free and I see nothing wrong with that as long as I don't try to pass anything generated as my own work

>>722642530
>If AGI (actual AGI not AGI*) in my lifespan I will literally stream my suicide and apologize for not believing in god emperor altman.
thank god

>>722642392
>retarded jeet thinks he will get to migrate anywhere once AI makes outsourcing to him useless
lmao. also we don't have the resources for AI to take over the majority of the workforce in our lifetime

>>722642702
AI will only replace the cushy jobs. all the menial labor will be unaffected. hope you AI bros like shoveling shit because that's your future. no, prompting slop wont be a job.

>>722642893
fuck off

>>722636778
Welcome to the stock market and big boy businesses. It only gets crazier the more you read about it.
Imagine my shock when I found out companies don't get a single cent when you buy their stocks. I can buy 10 shares of apple inc today and I'm buying from some reseller that bought them 30 years ago.

>>722642923
>that triggered by hearing the truth
kek

>>722636778
welcome to why trading is a ponzi scheme and everyone who made money off it should be guillotined.

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Trump was certainly onto something when he decided to invest America into Intel. Yeah, their stock is bad. But not a bad time to invest. The real story here is... Asustech... what the fuck? How did Asus get so big?

>>722634580
Still not buying AMD. Sorry.

>>722641610
Unironically the AMD / OpenAI deal just accelerated it. Its so obvious with the circular investment circlejerk that they just want to print money without actually delivering. There is no way for LLM to even get close to AGI. The hallucination problem alone prevents AI from EVER being able to replace any serious white collar work where accurate reporting is necessity. There is no accountability.

Boomers were easily impressed by what they have been able to accomplish so far (image generation and godlike search engine / data aggregation), and are now being taken for a fucking ride as these companies say "trust me bro, just $3 trillion more in datacenters that quadruple peoples electricity bills and we'll make it bro trust me dude"

>>722643126
>Asustech... what the fuck? How did Asus get so big?

Wait, Asus lists in Taiwan dollars... which means their stock is hovering at like $24USD... which makes a lot more sense.