what a fucking retard
>>722646472I still don't understand Promethus' role/motivation in Hades 2
He should try to convince Mel that change has to happen
>>722646472Is Hades moddable?
>>722646472He looks cool
>vow of rivals level 4 unlocked
the goat
I feel like the more I play this game the worse my opinion on it gets.
this game would be goty if not for clair obscur>b-but SILKSONG!!!lmao not even close
>>722646472I can see the future but i'm going to lose to you anyhow is some terrible writing. You could've just not written yourself into a hole
I beat chronos once before going up. Was I supposed to go up first ? I didn’t get all the flowers I needed until recently..:
>>722647195yep, sameused to think it was a huge upgrade to 1, now I think it's worse in nearly every way
>>722646615he makes sense at first; he's just a dude helping chronosbut then he reveals the extent of his foresight and how he knew the whole story before it happened and knew chronos would lose but helped him anyways, and after the story admits that him continuing to be there changes nothing and has absolutely no purpose whatsoever (kinda like hecate lol) he basically outs himself as an autistic retard schizo with brain damage (and outs the game's writers at the same)
>>722647325>>722647195can i get your thoughts?not even talking about the ending or the autistic mat/nectar granding that was in the first game toomy personal issue is despite them adding the altpath it still didnt resolve the lack of variety of how samey the game gets so fast
>>722646472Protag sucks. Story sucks. They amped up the nigger and gay too. Zag and Persephone carried the first game desu
>>722647426>and after the story admits that him continuing to be there changes nothing and has absolutely no purpose whatsoever (kinda like hecate lol) They explain this by saying your journey to Typhon needs to be similar to before you killed it. So that Chronos can send you to kill Typhon in alternate timelines too.
>>722647157>Choose the boon that raises health but makes the amount currently on you a mystery>Beat final surface boss for the first time who drains all 3 DD's>Only 4 health leftNow I know better
>>722646615His involvement was at least part of what led to the ushering in of the golden age of humanity, which is what he wanted from the start. I was under the impression that him being there was akin to training, just like Hecate, Prometheus just had a much much longer term goal in mind.Then post-story he just sticks around because of the timeline culling shit that Melinoe has to do until Typhon isn't a threat in any reality anymore.
yeah the story sucks, but im surprised by how much fun im having slowly pushing fear higher with the testaments. been a while since i played 1 but i dont remember enjoying the combat this much. maybe i was just a worse gamer overall back then. or maybe this game is just easier and im still shit.also, zesty buckbroken grandpa is kinda based
>>722647157>Fan service bad>Unless it's a gay cunt in speedos parading his bulge around
>have to have 16gb of RAM to launch a 2D indie game
Honestly I'm kind of equal parts amused and annoyed that Hypnos was completely pointless to the plot despite the mystery of why he was saved/why he was sleeping the whole time.
>>722648891he was 100% cut content
>>722646767yes
>>722648891Could've just made it so that before contacting Zag Mel has to learn how to move in dreams to reach her brother
>use a weapon with ranged attacks>have tons of fun and kill everything instantly>use a melee weapon>do no damage>only get in a couple hits before having to dash away>constantly just sitting there waiting for enemy attacks to finish>constantly take bullshit hits for 40 damage that have 0.1 yoctosecond of telegraph>armored enemies? have fun lol>enemies with aoe? get in there lol
>>722648891>Mel assumes awakening Hypnos will have some grand payoff>works through the whole game to achieve it>is left confused and disappointed when it finally happens>player assumes defeating chronos will have some grand payoff>works through the whole game to achieve it>even the characters in the game are left confused and disappointed when it finally happens
>>722646615He feels like a dropped plot point that the hades 2 writers couldn't back out of due to roguelike status quo and keeping him a boss after the story is over. So they just turned him into a retard. His dialogue made it feel like there was something bigger going on. Turns out there wasnt.
>>722650265Yeah would've been nice, definitely feels as though there should've been SOME kind of bigger use for him considering that Melinoe is meant to be the goddess of nightmares and that would have a pretty obvious connection with the god of sleep.
Should've just made Zag the protagonist again, duking it out with freshly awakened Cronos. Half the problem with the story stem from the retarded ass timeskip.
>>722647157>So I say, can't we just, you know, invite him over to a feast and hash things out over a cup of wine, yeah? And they look at me like I'm completely daft, hahahaha.
>>722651261Not untrue. Almost all the bosses are significantly easier if you just run around in a big circle and do some hit and run tactics.Staying in and i-framing everything is definitively doable but harder and infinitely harder if you ever want to use the enemy speed vow.
>>722648891I would have been ok with it if all the other NPC quest lines were resolved well, but this just added to the pile of wasted potential.
They still let me use the 31 grasp setup from early access when the costs got changed.Not rerolls though so the usefulness is debateable.
>>722648736Fan service is only bad when it's for heterosexual males. Anything that competes with women for male attention is bad.
The only hard things I have left to do are underworld 32 fear and surface 24 and the last boss rival fights, how likely am I to manage a win first try against them if I can almost no-hit their regular version? At this point I don't really feel like throwing a run or two to learn their tricks.
>>722646615Getting Typhon killed so he wouldn’t be a threat to mortals, I think.After that he’s just being an asshole for the sake of it.
>>722652991Just don’t add frenzy and you’ll be fine.Also hubris is basically free fear if you use an air quality build
>>722653046it was pretty clear IMO that he was in this whole fight for the sake of bringing forward the whole 'golden age of humanity' thing mentioned in the epilogue. he viewed himself as being on the side of humanity, not the gods, but knew this whole killing typhon/redeeming chronos shit was the path to the ending he wanted, so he served as something like another trainer for melinoe to complete her task.
how do i get more darkness? i've gotten like 5 chaos boons since then and still haven't gotten one i just want my 30 grasp
>>722648736>gayHe seemed very happy at first when "Zag" showed up as a sexy woman and was on board with some magic genderswap curse being an improvement. He's bi leaning more towards the ladies.
yippeee
>>722651261Melee weapons basically force you to go all in on dodge and impervious effects it feels like, whilst ranged lets you play with some variety.
>rival cerberusWhat were they thinking?
>>722654019Getting prometheus crossed off the list took way longer than everyone else, so weird.
The character designs look too gay and Millennial-coded for me to tolerate. I'll pass.
>>722653896The oaths, raise the fear until you get a bounty
>>722653896i think besides the couple prophecies that give them you just gotta grind the chaos rifts sorry brothe fear board doesnt give them at all, that other anon got darkness and nightmare mixed up
>>722654402Ah sorry
I'm gonna say something crazy. I like doing chaos trials
>>722647258The cauldron will spell out what you need to roll credits eventually. Both ways are good for progress now.
>only 20 neededWhy did I even bother fishing all this shit then. Make everyone suffer trying to get the voidskate pussies.
Gentlemen, a word.I would like to fuck Scylla.Thank you.
>>722654562So do I, its fun doing a moveset or loadout that im not used to or wouldn't try to build normally.
>>722654745I think her accent is cute. Is it Canadian or extreme midwestern?
>>722646472why does prometheus look like a faggot/nigger
>>722646767Very easily. The entire game is made up of unpackaged .lua files, so you can easily edit things like enemy damage or HP with minimal coding knowledge.
the sun worshiper duo boon is so fucking busted holy shit this feels like cheating>kill a charybdis first tentacle at super scylla>it solos the fight>typhon summons an eyeball sperm thing>it just sits on top of him>does several 700 damage hits per second and procs phases almost instantly
Tips for farming resources:>Take the grave thirst weapon every time, it also drops gemstones you can use for decor>Pick any build you like on that weapon, keepsake doesn't matter>Fear 12 if you can do it easily is really important too>The familiar that boosts fish is preferred>Underworld runs>Get through the first zone and pick anything to fill all 5 of your core boon slots>Get to the 2nd zone and pick poseidon boon guaranteed, reroll until you get Ocean's bounty(+minor gains chance)>Later pick Sea star(chance for minor gains to be doubled)>If you get it, pick hermes' quick buck for +++gold gain>Get to the final shop and buy out the rare resource and grab the fear bonus(if you picked 12 fear), purge your boons if you're winning hard>Use charon's loyalty cards to buy more nightmares, use bones to buy nightmares and chaos dust>Occasionally go to the surface to get golden apples
Chronos suddenly turning into a good guy because of muh granddaughter was such a letdown. I was expecting some twist that Chronos was prepared for the mirror shenanigans or that he corrupted Zagreus or something. It could be fleshed out so much more.The Olympus path felt completely inconsequential for the story. In the underworld there is always a reason to go to Zagreus (or Persephone in H1). In Olympus you just say hi to Zeus and that's all.All other stuff feels to be an upgrade compared to first game.
>>722654821I’ve no idea, but it’s the perfect female based retard voice.
>>722655235>Fear 12 if you can do it easily is really important tooDoes it boost your resource gain or something?
>>722654019The fact the last two are just "Behold" rather than "Vanquish" really shows that even the devs know how bullshit they are
>>722655743there's a chest in the summit and tartarus that contains nightmares, beast morsels, or chaos dust that only opens at 12 fear or above. It's huge value.
>>722651261every melee weapon feels very manageable even if you barely spec into your ranged options t b hit's only on the fists where investing in your special feels absolutely necessary
why are the fates italian
>>722652861considering the 3 new keepsakes require you to not have any rerolls in order to be active, which they're really good, I think it's pretty useful
what the hell did they do to ares and chaos's designs in this game
>>722654019Am I crazy, or is the "Unrivaled Strife" fight easier than her vanilla version? Tighter arena helps a lot in keeping her in attack range
>>722646615The gane very clearly went through some rewrites as the writers became uncomfortable with the path the game initially leaned towards; Chronos being at least somewhat justified in waging war on Olympus and the Gods being assholes who deserved to be knocked down a few pegs.This becomes more evident with certain underlying points;>Many characters involved are ones fucked over by the Gods being petty (Particularly Arachne, Odysseus, Heracles, Prometheus, and Icarus)>Nemesis herself says Chronos isn't entirely to blame and the Gods had a war coming to them>Mel is a brainwashed zealot who never knew her family but was conscripted and groomed to assassinate Chronos for themMost likely the devs got cold feet over writing the family that Zag (and thus players) spent so much time uniting in Hades 1 as bad guys and opted out of the original idea, but that just made the whole thing worse and borderline nonsensical.
>>722656927Ares design is great, what are you talking about? Yeah, he's wearing a roman armor, but it fits him.
>>722654838Projecting
>>722653959dionysus is historically the most 50/50 biscum man on planet earth. he literally fucks himself on the ass every night canonically in greek lore because he misses his gay lover's dick so much. i don't think he has a preference.
>>722656938You have to take in account that you get unrivaled Strife after you've beaten baseline Strife several times already, so the basic combat doesn't change. She drops those contact bombs all over the arena, so you can't just run away from her bullets (lasers) as easily as in the normal fight, but by then you have enough Arcana damage and upgrades to deal damage way faster, so those limitations aren't as annoying.>>722657047I think the writing was also fragmented because they were designing the game first and then writing something to fit the pieces together. Having Chronos on their side to justify re-runs post game makes sense mechanically, but then you have to write it so he sticks around after the normal ending. Looking around for the fates makes sense in context to justify more runs post-game, but just making it relationship grinds without a proper scavenger hunt also diminishes the experience.There are small changes they could have done that would have made the "plot twist" with chronos simpler.>More dialogue with Melonie conceding that the gods have crossed the line with those same characters that point out their mistakes>Extend the conversations with Zag so he can point out that yes they love their family, but the gods can be vindictive>Make Nemesis something more of a "forward scout", in charge of clearing the way as best a she can for Melonie, in the same way Heracles does in the surface, so she can have a more justifiable reason to be wandering around the underworld path and change their dynamic to a professional rivalry rather than Nemesis just being a petty bitch for not wanting to do guard duty.>Just have more flashbacks teasing Chronos' changing his past. Do the same hide 'n' seek segments, if not more, but without context, as dreams from Melonie and we piece together that it's a possibility that can happens since we establish that dreams are beyond time and can reach to other timelines.Just a few tweaks would work with what they have.
>>722654685For autocollect incantation you need more than 20.
>>722657516The game should have turned more into mediation between the sides with having Chronos chill out and the Olympians making concessions for past misdeeds with Mel acting as the go-between, but I guess a really shitty time travel plot was more appetizing.
>>722647426He’s essentially Konrad Kurze from 40k. Can see the future and becomes blackpilled and acts like he has no agency, in doing so confirming the futures he sees.
>>722647325Nah, went back to 1 for a bit after playing a lot of the initial early access and Zag just feels so basic in terms of moveset compared to what you can get in 2. Then there’s the bosses in 1 being worse. I just miss the Shield and the Rail a lot.
What? No steam achievement?
>>722658161If she dressed like that in game, she would be far more popular
>>722657972Zag literally has the same moveset with a bit different casting system, better dodge and wayy more diverse and Bastion esque weapons.
>>722658161I think in the first game they said they don't want the statues to matter for "100%" because 32 heat is too hard for too many people.
>>722656938I think her patterns are a little easier since her beams track worse than her bullets but in exchange the damage they do is so high that you can't afford more than one or two mistakes. Getting hit by them only like three times was enough for her to outdamage Typhon this run and I was basically face tanking him.
>>722648736Did you miss the literal naked lady?
I beat chronos for the first time after like 40 nights. What do I do now?
Aspect ideas?
>>722658717Do it again.
>>722654562>Do chaos trial with overpowered boons>Do a normal run afterwards>Choose the option to get a boon from the previous run from echo You can do some fun stuff with this strat
>>722647219Has a direct sequel ever won GOTY?>DAIthat’s a franchise game that has vastly different gameplay than its predecessors
>>722658357Actually having to save your dodge for the right moment in 2 made it more engaging for me desu.
>>722658765there should be an aspect that inflicts instant death and the instant death projectiles have funny faces on themoh right it's called aspect of moros
>>722646615the game's writing is bad and actively went through multiple rewrites
>>722658357Nah, not really. If anything, the dash spam you could do made the game even easier and weapons overlapped in usage way too much (Spear/Sword, Rail/Bow). Zag's cast was fucking useless unless you had really specific builds or boons while Mel's cast is useful from the get go, since she doesn't have infinite dashes like Zag, she actually has to worry about positioning and such.Anon above you is 100% correct and Hades 2 combat is way more rewarding and interesting.
>>722647219>>722658957https://vidyagaemawards.com/previous-yearsBaldur's Gate 3, Witcher 3 and Bayo 2 have won "Least Worst Game of the Year" in the /v/gas. Depending on how you count "sequels", Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Nier Automata, Smash Ultimate and Metroid Dread have also won.
>>722646615The problem with both Hades games is they want to be both a roguelite you can play indefinitely and a story-based game with a proper ending, so it has to end on some bullshit excuse for why nothing really changes. In the first game it kind of works because it’s a personal, relatively low-stakes plot. Making Zagreus the “Security Specialist” is kind of silly, but it doesn’t feel like a huge violation of the story. The sequel went for a big epic war plot knowing they literally can’t give it a satisfying conclusion.
>>722659320Zagreus describes it as Security specialist but he's more of a warden now. He took to himself the responsibility of traversing Hades to make sure everything is secure as to relieve some of the burden his dad has so he can actually enjoy his time with his wife again.
>have double Vow of Fangs on multiple full runs both above and below>still haven't found a single enemy with Seeker on it to complete the Bared Fang fateJesus fuck, just end this one already
>>722646472Is there a single decent character design in this entire game?Every single male character looks like a faggot, lame, or both.The less said about the female characters the better.
>>722646472I last tried Hades in 2020, I decided to gave it a spin a few days ago and I'm already addicted. Shit is actually fun.
>>722646615it really just boils down to hades 2 plot being the most contrived shit ever
>>722659634
>>722646615Because the Fates put him there. He saw that he was there as an obstacle to Mel and so that became his future, standard quantum time shenanigans consequence.
>>722659634Herc and Polyphemus are great
>>722657516i think the game also shoots itself in the foot pretty badly narratively speaking by forcing you to run the surface route halfway through the game which has a lot less of a developed story to offer just as it starts getting really good with chronos, as the story between hades/zagreus and chronos starts getting really good you have to start running the surface route which has virtually nothing to offer and ends up leaving everything in the underworld half baked by the time you're done
>>722646472made for sex with melinoe and heracles
>>722659634I feel the only ones that are flat out awful are Chaos, Hestia, and Circe. Most of the others range from good to "could be good with a minor tweak or an art fix". Those three however are unsalvageable, with Chaos needing to reset to how he was in the first game and the other two needing complete redesigns.Dio's art is dumb too as it's just a near naked man shoving his bulge in your face, but that gets a pass for being intentionally stupid
>>722646615Honestly I wanted him to win because I like the humans...because I am one. Fuck me at least Zag actually liked the mortals too and had far more sympathetic motivations, Mel just seems like a bitch who wants to kill Chronos at all costs. And that's just one part of the fucking awful writing.
>>722659767>in the second game Zag is actually tall enough he would loom over her
>>722660505I don't have the image on hand, but need a redraw with them of that one "wrong hole" panel from a Bleach porn comic that used to get posted all the time.
>>722660559>Gave fire to Humans even though he knew he would be punished for it>Gets chained to a rock and forced to eatch an eagle peck through his guts every day>Befriends the eagle and assaults Olympus with his bare handsFuck it, Prometheus prequel with Titan boons when?
>>722660559Mel is retarded because her closest friends other than Artemis are all mortal shades, and after "Death to Chronos" it's clear the thing she actually wants most is to give Icarus a permanent physical body so he can have howling his name to the moon every night. She really should be pro-human.She's too dumb to figure out that the gods were assholes to the humans, and seems to think that the select few she's interacted with are just some of the "good ones" where there must have clearly been a misunderstanding about why her family accidentally cursed them that will sort itself out once she sits her cousin down after the war is over and lets them now what a silly mistake they made.
>>722659818>have to go to my depressing soul sucking job because this bitch opened some jar
>>722660878It's funny now since the Hecate twist completely derails Mel's entire story and build up.
Got great chaos below on my first try, it had the pain 4 vow but only VoR 1 so it was pretty doable.
>>722648736Yeah. Men and women are attractive in different ways, females have their bodies while men have their power. "Fanservice" for males is having them be strong (physically, mentally, with superpowers, etc) and having resources (money or smarts). Think superman or batman.Fanservice for females is showing their sexy body.You shouldn't absolutely not turn things around and put a male showing their package, or a female having money or power. No one likes that, except mentally deranged gays.
>>722646615No one does, it does not make any sense. They should have just made him a madman obsessed with revenge instead of a levelheaded titan with foresight who knows his actions are useless.
>>722662981great chaos above took me like 40 tries, below only took me two or three. underworld seriously is easy mode
>>722662981>>722663627When do you get these? I got all aspects and done all trials.
>>722663627I tried doing great chaos above but I'm kind of burned out after getting all achievements in the game, most of which was about speedrunning surface for Prometheus' three fates line.>>722664086Needs all keepsakes and arcanas as well. Probably need to unlock VoR4 but I'm not sure.
>>722646472This sounds like its trying hard to be profound and failing miserably. They're confusing prometheus with sisyphus too which is just embarrassing.
>>722664184they are? how?
That rival fight with Scylla is insane. Hell, even the rival fight with Prometheus and Hercules is easier. It's genuinely insane. Still beat it in 32 heat though.
Do I need to beat both paths on 3 a few more times to get VoR4? I was expecting it to just unlock after getting credits
>>722664184Everyone is Sisyphus in roguelites by the nature of the systems
I went back to Hades I and I got a new appreciation for the quintuple divine dash jank and Zag’s fast-talking smartass comments. Hades II has twice the content and variety but Hades I had more narrative focus and less bloated progression mechanics. I was pissed when I couldn’t chat and exchange gifts with Zagreus and friends at the House of Hades again after the credits rolled. It would’ve been incentive enough for me to keep doing runs.
>>722658614You mean the naked transsexual?
>>722646472Honestly, why the hell am I playing as these piece-of-shit gods who display clear contempt towards me?Can I get a "bad" ending real quick?
I need a mod or cheat engine for ingredients, it's just too annoying to need too many seeds from both the surface and underground and I barely get them. The other items are fine, but godammit the seeds are the worse I swear, and I beat all rivals bosses.>Except Chaos stuff (Darkness and L... something) which I still need and they do not appear in his realm, at all.
>>722647157Dionysus has been my favorite greek god ever since I read the Bacchae and it really hurts my soul that every depiction of him just has him as the party guy.
>>722666008I haven't really needed seeds but if you bring the dog with the leveled dig skill it increases the chance of spots appearing.
By the way, if the Broker marks ingredients as "unessential," does it mean they will never be needed and can be sold? Even unknown cauldron recipes won't require these?
>>722666112That's assuming you can even get the dog, it took me ages for him and the ferret to spawn and now I need bronze instead but have never seen the bird.
>>722666112Yeah unfortunately I got the dog very late (after reaching the ending credits). And now, it's just pain. And prior to that, I barely got the seeds I needed. Like I beat the rival bosses before I unlocked 4/6 seeds garden/the pier. This is so fucked this isn't fun anymore and I don't want to touch the game if I can't just cheat that.
>>722666290Correct
>>722654838The entire game is ugly but people will praise it because it's enough for them to add a bunch of pointless detail and have everything flash and bling constantly
>>722665819I really feel like this plot point has not been resolved yet, and Prometheus would fit right in there to solve it.
>>722665819What's with this new trend of contemptuous or racist protagonists
>>722646472>>722647157I seriously hope none of you are european and actually bought this faggot slop
>>722646615If I had been tied to a stone and had my guts picked out by an eagle every day for the crime of wanting to help mankind, I'd be hell-bent on fighting the gods to my last breath even if it was my destiny to inevitably lose.
>>722660878Mel is incredibly sheltered and raised from the cradle to be a Chronos killer, so I wouldn't hold that much against her AND you said that mortal shades were her friends, but those shades would have to be shades that were aligned with the gods in the first place to be allowed safe haven in Erebus or a more physical body. No shades in Erebus are shittalking the gods straight to Mel's face or Hecate's.
>>722647157Grapehead is a stupid design choice.
>>722664184What the fuck are YOU talking about? Sysiphus efforts are pointless by design, they are meant to be a torture. Prometheus choosing to do something he knows is pointless at the moment, just to delay the inevitable, is not the same thing at all. Sounds like you are failing miserably to understance simple nuances in similar stories, retard anon.
>>722664364It would have been way easier if we had Hades 1 dash abuse system.
>>722671942The rock is the lamest part of Sysiphus's story. Bro was literally ancient greece Saul Goodman who swindled Gods and returned from dead by weaponizing empathy. Then he caught Thanatos into a NET and stopped death globally for a bit, and he was just A GUY, his only power that of bullshitting.
>>722672128Yeah, sure, but that's not what the anon was complaining about.
>>722648736most of the women have their tits out and aphro is literally butt nakedalso dio has always been purely about humor, if you think his spherical bulge is anything but a joke you're really reaching
>Ugh, why is the personification of discord trying to spread discord?Mel was an ass of a protagonist. Just in general the writing took a massive nosedive from H1
why do the official YT uploads of Scylla's songs only feature her vocals alone instead of the actual trio version with the sirens you get to hear in-game?
>>722674124Honestly the art did too. Say what you will about stylistic choices between both games, but the first game had a *much* more cohesive and attractive style. Getting older is realizing that artists kind just get washed up. It's even worse with the OFF remake, I was SHOCKED when someone told me it was the same artist as the original
>>722651674>>722659320The game's only got one writer. might explain a dropped plot thread or two. People forget that this is an indie-ass indie game.
>>722667037Hornet is 100% justified in her contempt towards others.
Ares boons have good looks (blood themed) but they are pretty mid. As Thanatos aspect, idk why I would ever go for him when Apollo exist.
>>722646615>Maybe the gods are the bad guys
>NONONO IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME GIVE ME YOUR MONEY GIVE ME YOUR BOONS GIVE ME THAT ROOM GIVE ME THAT ITEM What an annoying sour grapes character
>>722675598full on plasma fire rate build is pretty fun, but yeah you need to get an attack boon from someone else
>we gave her shit boons on purpose as a jokehonorable mention goes to Ares due to most of his boons increasing attack speed while his main abilities have a fixed cooldown to activate
>>722675828>Still cant even beat the final bossWhat a jobber
>>722676849Her link on sprint and fissures on omegas are both good but otherwise yeah, Hera is worst in slot for many things
>>722674124I wouldn't mind that much if they didn't expect me to have a relationship with her. At least Margera was doing her job and just talked to you casually at the taverna afterwards. Strife is just an annoying little shit, fuck her.
>>722674378Yes, but they could have gotten more writers. It's not like writers are that expensive when compared to VAs, programs and artists. The game is selling better than Hades 1 if the steam charts numbers are correct, just take some money, hire 1-2 more writers for a few months and fix the story.
>>722675598He’s pretty good if you almost always go for him, but he sucks balls if you only have the odd boon
>>722657841ah yes, a completely original character arc invented by warhammer 40k
>>722674378More writers ≠ better writing.Hanging plot threads is just one instance of bad writing.
By the final dialogue with the Fates its pretty obvious that the devs just wanna move away from Hades already. Most likely they started the sequel as some sort of moral obligation to the fans, but half way grew tired of it, and threw a shitty ass quickie plot to resolve it and make everyone happy.
>>722677010>>722676849Hera has the most damage potentials between the boons. Drop a skull attack special and you clean a room in 2-3 attacks. It's situational, yes, but I'd take Hera boons over Zeus or Ares any day of the week.
>>722674378What a shit excuse. The game's also not an RPG with multiple routes. It has very straight forward character progression plot threads. If a single writer who makes a living working for years on a single game can't put up a basic flow chart of bullet points for each character then that writer is incompetent.
>>722646472Afro Samurai?
>>722677517>Most likely they started the sequel as some sort of moral obligation to the fansNo, because Hades 1 was their most financially successful title and Hades 2 seems to have sold even better. But I agree that they might be tired because this is their first sequel and they had been making pretty different games from title to titile before Hades 1 and 2.
>>722646615The epilogue was his end game, fighting the main character achieved that
>>722677742Yeah, but the game has TONS of dialogue for really specific situations and we pointed out that it was more of mechanic first, story second development cycle, so they needed a writer that was good at improvising rather than planning a story itself.
>>722678165Bastion and transistor are quite similar. And combat is quite close to hades too. But art and narative is compleatly diffrent.
>>722678165Pyre almost bankrupted them so it makes sense they want to get some money before attempting another game. It sucks but narrative single player experiences will never make as much money as an infinitely replayable roguelike
>>722674124the problem isn't that anybody is expecting her to not be a piece of shit, the problem is that she's being given shelter by the same people she's trying to fuck over because 'muh coven'who gives a shit that she's a daughter of nyx, both games have been about killing your family as are half of greek myths
>>722678350What? No they weren't. Transistor was almost turned based. You had to pick ONE action to be done during refresh time. Bastion does have a somewhat close combat system to Hades, but Hades is clearly a more fleshed out system and focused more on specific runs. Bastion had different gods for you to worship to change your challenges, subitems that changed your strategy.The base gameplay design changed with each game. There's a whole complete different development flow from a single-player, linear game to a roguelike with tons of dialogue like Hades.
>>722678457Next game is probably survival crafting co-op
>>722678457Especially since Pyre was easily their best game.
I like it, fuck you
>>722678660This, but the Selene aspect.
>>722678735The the graphical effects of sky fall is underwhelming even though it's a decent ability
>>722678857You have to get lucky and get the godsent version with Ares and you get the red blood laser beams effect.
this vow is the biggest fucking trap ever. people saying its the easiest vow to run are retarded, it bricks your runs. even at 32 heat i refused to run this
>>722678735trashpect
I'm glad the default weapon is like the spear from the first game. They know I'm a shitter.
>>722675828Nemesis is vying for it because she's genuinely torn on what side to fight for, and keeping herself pointed at Chronos stops her from thinking about it.Chronos is the more immediate threat but the Olympians absolutely deserved to get their teeth kicked in for the shit they pull, and as it stands Chronos' entire war is one based on vengeance.Nemesis is one of the characters hit the worst by the rewrites since instead of exploring the point that the Olympains may not be fully in the right, everything gets wrapped up with a shitty twist that de-fangs the story and just makes Nemesis a pointless cunt.
>>722646472is that actually the font? you guys actually play this?
It's a shame the story isn't nearly as good as the first game because I think the majority of gameplay differences are better than the first.There's a decent amount of good character interactions but that ending just made me go "that's it?" it felt like such a lame way to end it and I highly doubt the epilogue will be much better.>>722679537>unironically looking at a tier list for something as easy as hades
>>722679657you want it all in the dumb greek font or something?
>>722679387>Not just YOLOing your buildWeak. My first pick always. ROLL THE DICE, BITCH!
>>722678735Ironically I'm pretty sure Selene's coat's hex is her worst one, it desperately needs a base range increase
>>722679812JUST GET IN THERE. Use your damn fist shield, spin to win. Be aggressive.
>plays the game for you
>>722674124This bitch gave me massive Sera ptsd flashbacks and i hated every second of it.
>>722679797>>Not just YOLOing your buildI always play to fate's whim and dont use rerolls, I just dont like this vow because gods like hephaestus, aphrodite, zeus and poseidon all have multiple useful boons that I rather didn't get discarded for the whole run
>>722679972>when you revive Roxy
>>722679387It used to be god tier because you could abuse it to guarantee legendary boons until they swapped them into a different pool
>>722680123>when you revive charybdis
>Stop by Circe's place>Get a boon that increases damage by making Mel bigger>It actually makes her model bigger and makes her voice deeperSlight improvement.
>>722680182Yeah i figured it got changed. its annoying how much misinformation about aspects, vows, boons and such exist because of early access
>>722674124...i like her
can someone give me a qrd on medea skull? apparently it has the highest dps in the game, but I find it doing less damage than charon axe or mel staff, is there a specific boon it needs?
where the fuck is thanatos
>>722680560It literally just does nearly twice the damage out of a box. Build it as you like, it's just a nuclear missile launcher, you don't even need to use another gimmick.
>>722680728plays like absolute shit though
>>722680560Zeus on special because the follow up attack explosion instantly triggers blitz. You do have to play really aggressive to get the most out of it.
>>722680565He got timed out like everybody else in the House except Hypnos.It's why there's undead on the surface; Death is literally stopped.
>>722680560https://youtu.be/ZdM-uiESw-I?si=wKjmqa2vousDnN3aobviously you dont have to be a speedtranny with it but that's how fast you can chain your damage loopready 2 skulls -> dash -> repeatomega attacks for extra dmg while you're waiting for openingsit does feel really weird at first but I promise it's super fun once it starts to click
>>722648891He was just a sleepy guy
>>722681254whoever drew this has clearly not reached the epilogue
Just wait until you get smaller and everyone comments on that
>>722681436Fuck meant for >>722680223
>>722679972allow me to introduce myself
>>722656938Coming from someone who only plays with full Rivals and has completed several runs with it>Barely more difficult than the originalStrife, Cerberus, Prometheus>Considerably more difficultHecate, Polyphemus>Holy shit this is so fucking annoying with Rivals onScylla>Extremely more difficult, turning on just kills 80% of all runsChronos, Typhon
>>722681383How do you actually reach it? I'm alternating surface/underground runs, but both still are being repaired. It's actually annoying how it fades to black with Homer talking random shit.I've also done all rival bosses, and I'm missing the last testament statue.
>>722665801Everything is tranny to you obsessed worshipers.
>>722646472You know people here love to complain about the character designs in this game but it has some stand-outs. I think Prometheus looks super cool. So do Hercules and Chronos. I also really like how Zeus's beard/hair become a cloud
>>722681606I'd switch Polyphemus and Prometheus tbdesu. After a few runs I learned to pretty much dodge all of Medea's attacks but having to memorize Prometheus's flames while Herc tries to kill me is terrible.
>>722681606Rivals Typhon is not that much harder after you figure out where to stand safely.The most annoying part is still ground tentacles.Only thing is extra time waste phase that can kill with timer.
>>722680223Any vids of this for.. research?
>>722682024Could be just me but i just feel like Herc barely even does anything other than increasing the boss HP bar. His attacks aren't particularly threatening. That being said i'm also really good at memorizing Prometheus's flame lines thanks to thousands of hours memorizing orange circles in FFXIV
>>722681767im not sure what you mean by being repaired, the "melinoe, seek us" prophecy is what gets you the epilogue. you're just fishing for a few magic dialogue lines and then you get some conversation sequences. it's a gay nothingburger like the rest of the story.
>>722682468Oh I see, so it's meeting the fates, thanks. I've noticed I had a new prophecy about reminiscing things about the fates, and it happened through random npc talking.For the repaired, it's the game telling me I can't go back inside of Olympus/Hell because they're busing repairing the damage.
>>722681436I hate eris so much it's unreal
90% of the weapons are useless on high heat
>>722683057RAPE Eris!!
forgive me if my lore is rusty, but why is prometheus working with the titans, didn't he steal fire from them?
>>722683103None of them are, there only is a skill issue.
>>722683254Prometheus is a titan. He stole the fire from the gods.
>>722683254That's not a lore thing, it's a mythology thing, he stole fire from the gods to give to the mortals and they punished him with the liver thing
>>722683254no. prometheus originally sided with the gods against the titans. he then stole fire from olympus to give to mortals, and as a result zeus imprisoned him for all eternity, having an eagle eat his liver every day
>>722683381>>722683397>>722683412oh whoops. I got that backwards. thanks.
>>722678660>grab Poseidon on attack and Ares on special>grab the rapid frame hammer for +3 waves on dash attacks>duo for 25% chance for double wavesThis thing pisses out so much damage, I love it. I hope the hidden aspect is good, haven’t tried the other 2 yet because the base form looks more fun to me.
>>722682750yeah that never changes, that's your new victory screen lolno wholesome family interactions, just a le epic one-liner from homer and then your ass is back to the crossroads.
>>722676915She can actually, she did a Cronos run while I was doing the surface.
Turning Chronos from angry old man into a zesty grandpa was funny as fuck
nemesis the type of shitter to take 200+ runs for her first clear
>>722684208Is it ever addressed that she's using Zag's sword?
The more I play, the more I think that Charon axe is hilariously strong. Extremely hilarious when you get both giga cleaver and apollo legendary because I'm firing FOUR omega specials that clear the entire room from the safety of my corner.
>>722684301It was her sword first/destined to be used by her eventually
>>722684208Both female romantic interests are fucking terrible
>>722684301I have gotten 1 short convo where she seethes and copes that mel has all the nights arms, and mel tries to cheer her up saying the stygian blade chose her
>>722683412Crazy how he went from being tortured by the eagle to being besties with the eagle
So far Axe, Staff and Daggers are my favorite weapons.Don't like Torches or Skulls even though everyone says they're overpowered and fists tend to be agreed as the worst weapon type by most people.
>>722684847>Most peopleMost people are retarded. Fists are just fine if you just learn how to play with them. Torches are the most boring of the weapons, however.
>>722684020>yeah that never changes, that's your new victory screen lolOh come on, that's fucking lame, seriously?What a big disappointment, I thought we would eventually meet face to face all gods on Olympus, and seeing all old faces in Tartarus (like Meg or Dusa).
>>722685018They can be both fine as a weapon and still the worst out of the bunch though.
The story in this game seems a lot weaker and worse than in Hades I
>>722686032NPCs too.Funnily, Zag outshines everyone despite having roughly 10 minutes of screentime
Nothing feels worse than doing a run with the skull and exclusively getting boons and hammers that apply to your special
>>722683254>Prometheus is a titan who stopped the other titans>Swiped fire from the gods to give to humanity to help em out>gods proceed to super punish him forever by chaining him and having an eagle peck out his ever regenerating liver every day forever.>Hades iteration of Prometheus befriends torture eagle>Is freed and joins Chronos campaign against the gods as his General>Primary goal is to help Humanity and get a good outcome for em. Follows his foresight hax to help lead to this path (which supposedly will also lead to the power and influence of the gods becoming heavily diminished. He's cool woth this because fuck those guys)
>>722646472why does he have the hair of a zoomer streamer?
>>722686679He has foreseen the future and zoomer culture in it.
>>722671905>"lemme put food that'll sag and rot throughout the day but next to my fayce!"
>>722658614The one with the masculine jaw that could cut glass? That one? I want a woman, not something that looks like a woman.
>>722686679it's zagreus hairstyle but puffed up by the fire and heat
does this game have more build variety than the first one?
>>722654921>>722650205>>722646767can i change the characters to AI generated lolis
>>722646472He did nothing wrong
>>722686945>it's not like i'm a god or something and can make things not do that
>>722667073Why? gonna be angry? Does people you'll never see or meet in real life doing what they want with their lives and money make you seethe?
>LISTEN TO ME MELINOE JUST LISTEN>WE MUST BECOME BETTER GODS. SO WHAT IF CHRONOS SPENT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS GENOCIDING TRILLIONS AND MAKING OUR LIVES A LIVING HELL>WHAT CHRONOS DID IN THE PAST IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS>HE FUCKING SAID SORRY OKAY??? HE IS A BETTER MAN>HE EVEN DONATED TO THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY AND SAID TRANS RIGHTS. HE IS A BETTER MAN
>>722688065thankfully Hades does not say anything like that at all.
>>722688212You're right, I was being generousHe acted like even more of a cuuck during the ending
The one that convinced people that Chronos had changed was Zagreus though
>giving it (You)s
>>722688065It's more like>Hey gramps so you have two choices>I will either murder you on a spot, or allow you to live and reconcile with the family>What's that? You don't want to? Well tough shit, where do i shove that spear?
hades 1 story and especially characters are a zillion times better than hades 2boss fights are better in hades 2
>>722688515So what you're saying is.....zagreus became a better man?
>What's that Zagreus?? Chronos went on social media and said all women are queens and wore a black lives matter shirt??>Looks like he's become a better man, good job boi im glad you spared him>whats that, he caused trillions of deaths and thousands of years of suffering?>Well I saw him at the vaushcon pushing for feminism, his past is none of our business
>>722688515Zagreus does most of the heavy lifting, but the one that convinces Mel and Hecate to stop is Hades.Ironically, he essentially tells them they must be better women.
>>722682016His design is really great. Love the flowy hair. Reminds me of Gearless Joe from pic rel.
Why the fuck is Hercules helping him???
Well bros?Did Chronos become the better man in the end?
>>722689646Don't know about better, but he sure became zesty as fuck.
>>722689646yeah but this is different than the other games, it's not about his children, it's about... his grandchildren
>>722667037>>722674447hornet is unreasonably reasonable to almost every sentient bug that isn't trying to kill her, and a lot of them that aren't.
>>722689704Chronos turning into zesty grandpa was pretty funny but idk what people were expecting since they clearly can't kill him off given that he's both the god of time and that he still needs to be there for future post-game clears.
>>722689646All it took was Zagreus "stabbing" him with his "spear"
>>722684690Imagine being the eagle and being forced to eat a guy's entire liver every day. It'd get stale fast.
>>722646615They needed a male villain who doesn't have a good motivation because that'd be sexist or something.
>>722690745>who doesn't have a good motivationBro they chained him to a rock and had an Eagle rip out his liver every day, all because he wanted to help humanityHe legitinately has the best motivation to be a villain out of all the bosses except Chronos himself
>>722690643In retrospect the eagle was also being punished for some reason.
I remember reading that there was a big uproar about resources when the EA first opened, how was it different from now?
I was a massive defender of the game and I stayed up playing the game all night because its really fucking good but that ending i stayed up 12 hours for was so fucking bad that it killed my interest for this gamelike holy shit was it so fucking awful. It felt fucking insulting. Fuck this game. In many ways its wayyy better than hades 1 but that ending killed my interest in the entire setting of characters
>>722691234The big uproar was about how you could only get one tool right? I think they quickly changed that, like the next big patch.For release, it's been fine mostly, but I really lack many seeds and the stuff you get from Chaos' realm, this is frustrating as I already beat the game.
>>722691234You only got resources from the tool you had equipped during the first EA phase
How do I unlock the hidden aspect for the staff? I heard you get all the aspects unlocked first, then get one to level V, and just keep talking to Circe? I've talked to her like 4 times now and nothing
>>722691234you used to select your weapon and your tool for the night. that, plus RNG of other resources showing up sucked ass.
>>722691757Mel aspects don't count towards unlock
>>722689646So is Chaos still going to catch up to him and turn him inside out Malpheus style for pulling a fast one on it?
>>722691804Fuck
>>722691772>>722691641oh, I see what's the deal with familiars having a resource specialty now
>>722691804Does it need to be Circe's aspect or can I do Momus's for Rank V?
>>722691962Any non-mel aspect counts
>>722654838He is homosexual in this.
>>722691852No, because that Chronos never duped Chaos.
>>722691852He didn't trick chaos, he just asked. He was willing to barter for their location using Nyx and was taken off guard when it worked.
They should go with egyptian themed sequel instead.
>>722691951They make the resource more likely to spawn and let you skip the harvesting minigame for fishing and the tablet
>>722690371The problem is less that he was redeemed and more about how sudden it was and how little agency Mel has in the outcome.
>>722646472I hate when a piece of dialogue so clearly showcases the low IQ of the writers. I've played rpg maker shit with better dialogue.
>>722692143I also feel like hypnotoad gives way more psyche on a run but could just be me
>>722692324It's the same per ghost, 35-50, but he makes the ghosts 20% more likely to show upWhether that's additive or multiplicative, who the fuck knows
>final axe attack only>double final attackI had this shit going for over 2k without crits alone. Zamn axe is good ackshually.
>>722689510Because Hercules doesnt like the gods and has becomed disillusioned with the whole pantheon shit. He's on team Mankind with Prometheus
>>722692605The berserk axe heals through maxed vow of scars and the charon axe becomes godlike if you get apollo legend, double omega hammer or both. Thanatos seems like the weakest axe because you lose all buffs if you get hit.
>>722646472so what are her male love interests? this guy?
>>722693116Moros and Icarus
>>722693116Zesty nigger or zesty white twink
>>722693450so you cant escape the zest?
>>722693116I wish bosses were love interests. Mostly Scylla, but Herc,or Prometheus could be interesting. We had Meg in the 1st one.
>>722693852i mean i dont see why not? didnt gods fuck around like rabbits?
>>722693852We have Eris in this one.
>>722693976Genuinely forgot about her. It was a blissful little moment until you reminded me.
>>722693852Scylla's the only one that could really work.
>>722693852>add in a song to joke about Scylla being tsundere and lying about it>ends up giving her better chemistry than all the female options
>Artemis casually dropping that she occasionally slams clams with rage-horny Nem when they cross pathBless these horny gods.
>>722694671>Artemis can clam slam Nem>Mel can't clam slam Scyllanot fucking fair.
>>722695417In the rival version of the fight Scylla does clam slam you, it's quite painful.
>got to the epiloguehow shit, art of clotho when?
>>722696530*holy
This game sucks and is for faggot cucks
What are some good boon combos for Pan and Circe?
>>722646472Is there even a fucking reason he commands the very eagle that used to chew his liver for basically all eternity. Also the eagle used to symbolise Zeus in the mythology, so you could say an avatar of Zeus was torturing him for all eternity cause he stole the fire of Olympus
>>722697176Maybe he still feeds it his liver in return for services. That's good eats.
>>722697176They had a long time to bond.
>>722697176Eagle of Theseus. It ate so much of the titan's liver that it became Prometheus itself.
>>722696774>PanYou probably want Hestia or Zeus for specials and Demeter or Zeus for casts, those tend to synergize best with the omega special gimmick>CirceDemeter, Apollo and Zeus for casts, working towards Air Quality
I like that Charon gets mad when you say he is similar to Atropos
>>722646472Sex with:ScyllaNemesisCirceSelene
>>722697176He was a good friend.
>hades 3 is the finale and involves you playing as a mortal fighting against the gods, who have been powertripping for far too long
the staff sucks! I only have melinoe and momus aspect but still. straight ass.
>>722689256Hades is supposed to be the level-headed amongst his brothers and he saw that there was a way to fix the problem without relying on murder, which didn't work last time they tried and even if it did work, killing the titan of time was bound to bring some problems at some point, so he was more willing to take Zagreus solution.
>>722698830>the staff sucks!Double cast one has always been busted. Even default one is amazing.
>>722646472why are they all brown?
>>722698830momus is great if you can solve the mana use problem, you just shit out damage with all the constant omega moves
>>722698830Melinoe is the best aspect, you don't need more.And it does not suck, if fucks.
>>722699408>>722699174>>722699089I may just hate the playstyle. So far my least favorite and least successful.
>>722648736This is a new development in the West (the part of the world with electricity) since like 2015. It is UNTENABLE not having White Men in power.
>>722646615he was never really working for chronos, he was always working towards the epilogue so that mortals can finally have their time. he knew what had to come to pass so he just played his role, then he sticks around so you can repeatedly kill typhon.
>>722698174yesyesuhhyes
>>722694157she writes a love ballad about melinoe and we can't date her, huge missed opportunity
>>722647426Well, I kinda understand him.stay cruxified and have your liver eaten by a raven every dayorMake futile attempts at stoping some bitch who is the related to the people that punished you as a warning to all mortalsI mean, It's something to do. And if Chronos is the one that freed you from it, you have no reason to be anything but loyal to him. Even if it is futile.
>>722648736
>>722697176I mean when you're forced to be around each other for forever you're bound to bond to at least some degree
ok, for some reason I thought prometheus was gonna be the final boss of the surface.
>>722648736Yes and?
>>722702760most people thought that, tbf
>>722646472The coolest retard.
>>722654838He doesn't look gay at all? You people are literally mentally ill. He straight up looks like a DBZ anime character
So is Ygnium is just unusable on a pad without autoaim? I've played for a while with default settings, thinking it was a lock-on weapon, firing and juking at the same time. Now, without autoaim, I have to move towards the target just to adjust aim, don't even get to hold my ground.
So far my highest clear is only 10 heat but it feels extremely easy with the axe if you get the good shit. Can't decide between this and Circe staff for my favorite weapon in the game.I think axe might win it out because I discovered you can pop 2 casts per omega if you get the ability to fire off multiple specials which is just amazing.
>>722701654>uhSEX
Why is she such a bitch bros? She's so hot, but she's such a bitch....
>>722705001strife incarnate, born to be a bitch
>>722705143I can fix her
>>722705001give gun back whore
>>722689646I love zesty grandpa chronos. And he canonically fucked, so he's just a zesty straight man. Or titan.
I really like Melinoe. Obviously she is not as fun as Zagreus but I like the interpretation of playing as the black sheep of the family. Her entire existence, her plan, and her success all depend on the fact she is unseen, little known, and autistically focuses on the task to the point she doesn't know how to exist without that task. She is destined to be unappreciated. The writing around the idea that she is fighting to save her family, but in her heart she doesn't even see herself as part of that family, is well done.Also her voice is beautiful
>they let chronos walk for all the shit he pulled but arachne is stuck as a spider because she was a little uppitycome on, we could even save sisyphus in the last game
>was ok with most of the character designs, thought they just had weird colors as a design choice and not necessarily as a race thing>mfw asian hermes
>>722707092Chronos technically never did anything thanks to Zag. Arachne fucked up by upsetting the most levelheaded goddess because she wanted to flex.
>>722697176>theseus and minotaur become friends>sisyphus and his fucking boulder become friends>prometheus and the eagle that eats his liver -
>>722707092They literally can't do shit to Chronos. Having him blasted with regret was the best thing to ever happen.
>>722707138Asian Hermes feels fast enough to where I like it. He's got aerodynamic eyes.
>>722707214What the fuck are you on about? Zag created false memories of an alternate timeline that only he and Chronos share. Chronos still did everything he did, the mindfuck just made him repent and agree to stop doing anything more.
>>722674124Eris was a godawful choice for a romance. Scylla would've made a much better "enemies to frenemies to smashing clams below the sea" relationship.
>>722709247As if Mel has a chance of scoring with Scylla.
>>722702760>>722703192Well, it was part of the "surprise". Hence why all the enemies on part 4 of the surface are "????" until you meet Typhon yourself.
>>722709617https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4VT-_mEM_0Scylla is just begging to get WITCHED. One bottle of nectar and she'd be munching carpet faster than you can say "davy jones locker"
>>722657182>dionysus is historically the most 50/50 biscum man on planet earth. he literally fucks himself on the ass every night canonically in greek lore because he misses his gay lover's dick so much. i don't think he has a preference.He's the god of madness and hedonism, he'd fuck anything, yes anything.
>>722702530>This is a 10/10 for Western gamersI'm not going to deny she's literally naked but if this is the best that Western games can do against Asian domination than I don't know what to say.
>>722708934>Zag created false memoriesNot how time travel works
>>722710357But we already have Zeus at home?
>>722710549Zeus fucks everything that's female, not everything period.
>>722710549>But we already have Zeus at home?Zeus will fuck women as anything, he doesn't fuck everything.
Is it gay if I a straight guy will romance Icarus? I'm doing it for Mel.
>>722707092My nigga even in real mythology no one wants to go against Athena.
>>722710904Is it gay to read a book with a male female romance? You're not even self inserting or roleplaying as Mel since you don't make decisions and shape her personality beyond one time "do I fuck this person not".
>>722711069So mote it be
>>722710904It's straight. Mel is her own character and not a self insert at all. It's homosexual to go for the yuri options because you are purposefully doing lesbo shit.
>arachne defenders in the big 25
>>722711585Cleared 32 heat because of her boon so I love her.
There's something fucked up with progression in this game. I've beaten the game, killed Chronos and Typhon, beat Rivals 4, beat Heat 24, and I still haven't unlocked a SINGLE hidden aspect despite fulfilling criteria for all of themI just want the fist daggers FFS, Demeter fists were my fav weapon in Hades 1
>>722712287>despite fulfilling criteria for all of themYou're really positive about that?
>>722646472>female protagonist >NO JOKES ALLOWED! NO BANTER ALLOWED! THIS IS SUPER SERIOUS!Why do they think making all the characters super boring will somehow make use take them more seriously?
>>722712287Maybe you're clearing the game too fast and have a backlog of dialogue to work through.
>>722712392Supergiant is the Naughty Dog of AA studios.
>>722660878>Mel is retarded because her closest friends other than Artemis are all mortal shades,Didn't think of it that way. She's a bigoted retard
>>722712392Zagreus was already snarky and sarcastic all the time, if you want that just go play him. I like having someone who is clearly different and the game explains why they are different.
>got a winstreak of 2 in chaos below>still says I didn't clear 2 successive runs on the listdo I have to do them back to back? I thought I just didn't have to lose.
what the fuck am I supposed to do to progress if I beat Chronos 5 times and beat Typhon, they didn't even tell me if I have to beat Typhon more
>>722712392She routinely gets called out for her personality by random characters.
>>722713098You have to beath Typhon more.
>>722713098You have to beat Typhon more. If you go to beat Chronos again, there'll be dialogue telling you to go back to Olympus.
>>722713223unfun garbage but ok
>>722712391for most of them. I've unlocked all 3 dagger aspects and leveled Pan to 5 (when I didn't even want to use it). I've met Artemis several times afterwards and still not hidden aspect. it's fucking bullshit>>722712458I've met artemis already several times and she spouts random non-essential dialogue at me. Just me the incantation you goddamn bitch
>>722713323Stop being mean to MY wife.You will NOT skip the dialogue.You will WAIT for the audio to play.You will SAY thank you before taking the boon.
>>722713441>Stop being mean to MY wife.She's not your wife, she's a chaste lesbian.
>>722713192Chaos does tell her later she was entertaining after all.
>>722660878Melinoe's entire life has been devoted to the service of the gods in Olympus and to a family she doesn't even know. She can't imagine any existence outside of Hecate teaching her to defeat Chronos. In her hideout at the crossroads, she has the company of many humans and godly beings alike, but is never exposed to the conflict between the two in the outside world. Her story is a paradox; it is entirely personal because the mission is all she has ever known, but she also doesn't even know what the end result of the mission will even give her because she has no memories of family to give her personal attachment. Melinoe doesn't belong with humanity by nature, and she doesn't belong with the gods because she is more like a tool of restoring order rather than a family member. Chronos calls her an outsider and a reject just like him and he is right.
>>722646615>He hates gods>Works for a titan to take revenge on the gods>Melinoe is a god so he has some ressentiment towards herThere, every fucking thread this same retarded question, holy shit how hard it is to understand such a simple concept
i cant believe the ending for this was some stupid Marvel time travel Multi-verse bullshit. i think the increase in stakes compared to Hades 1 really affected the story telling, obviously the devs had to think of a way to make replayability possible post-ending but im confused about the ending and it seems so are the characters lol
>Have to do the surface route many many times for the prometheus fates unlock >Dont know if I want to roll grave thirst, or use fear, or just take daggers with scorch and speedrun to typhon
>>722716505I just did speedruns but that's mostly because it took me a shitload of runs to get it and I just wanted to be done with the game.
the circe aspect is the most fun. wish we still had boons that made casts follow enemies
>prometheus>supposed to memorize the safe spotswaht is this bullshit
>>722717209you can i-frame all of them with your dash
>Wow Prometheus has some cool secret>Wow! Hercules is helping him now!>What could be going on?>Oh, nothing>Nothing's going on>Okay
>>722717302oh...
the ending ruined this game for me, i cant be fucked going any further like i did with Hades 1. i havent even romanced anyone yet lol
>>722646472you shouldn't use the r word
>>722659767yes please mommy
why was it only Chronos and Zag that remembered the alt-past?
>>722707092creating false memories is probably the best punishment because he now feels immense guilt
>>722717408like what the fuck is up with the lack of payoff for EVERYTHING? there isn't a single arc that goes anywhere, not even the main story. it's ridiculous
Which are the good weapon aspects? Don’t wanna waste my resources.
>>722718351The more I think about the ending, the angrier I get.
>>722717209How the fuck are there always people struggling with the Prometheus lines in every thread? It's just 5 positions, really 4 because you can just immediately go and stand in the first one. How the fuck are people even getting to Prometheus if their brain can't handle that much?
>>722718392pan, moros, medea, charon. the rest are mostly the same
>>722718597You're forgetting Circe, and I assume you're not mentioning the hiddens for the daggers, staff, and axe for a reason?
>>722718657i am forgetting circe, lol. i don't use it too often. the hiddens come in so late that you'll have the resources to upgrade them if you want, and be able to tell if they're good because you have game experience
>>722718849The hidden Axe feels real fucking bad until you max it with how much of a change it is in hits to proc the lifesteal, but yea, the rest are easy to figure out.
Is the content of the final game worth playing again if I beat chronos in early access and have since lost my save?
>>722718482The only time its remotely difficult is if you're in the vow of rivals and have heracles on your ass while the pattern is being shown to you
>>722718351Do actually know the answer for thisDLC
>>722713729That literally isn't his motivation at all. He dislikes the gods, yeah, but he's acting for the sake of achieving the golden age for humanity, not out of petty vengeance. Hell, its obvious even before the ending that Prometheus doesn't really hate Melinoe, he's acting from the get go like he's just intentionally serving as a strength test before Typhon.
uohh
>>722665801>>722687019The faggot sees what the faggot wants
>>722718351>finally wake up Hypnos>with the amazing secret code phrase “wake up”>he just fucks off instantly after 2 boxes of dialogue Are you kidding me
>>722720791Why did they sound like new yorkers
>>722721386nyx had a fling with spiderman
>nemesis beats cronos tooSo everyone is stronger than zeus then
>>722646472lmaooooo what is this? looks like deviantart with Microsoft Word default font kek
Imagine being stuck having a conversation with these two
so why does prometheus keep opposing you even after you already beat typhon and chronos
>>722722417Same reason you keep refighting Cerberus, you have to retrace your steps accurately to be close enough to the timelines where you can then go fight Chronos and Typhos.>but that's fucking retardedYea, the entire ending is.
>>722689181I love these Hollywood scripts you people write to push these cringe memes so hard.
>>722722417>>722648389
>>722721386I don't know but it was funny
>>722719123i thought supergiant never does DLCs and wanted to move away from the Hades series?
>>722723036I'm not against it either, just slightly confused.Also its funny that Moros apparently spent all his 'free' time with them and yet he doesn't remotely have their accent.
Hmmm, nope, sorry guys, I'm simply not angry and seething over this game.
>>722707092>>722707214That's cause Zag has max charisma, he had access to the means to break him, and his dad becomes chill after he fixes the family problems. Doesn't change that the pantheon overall is generally made up of superpowered jerkasses with colossal egos. It was fun how Arachne calls out how her own performance was better and how it was basically rigged. Wouldn't be surprised if she was right as Athena probably would have just nuked the place if anyone voted against her.
>>722723132Yeah it didn't seem as though they were planning on doing any DLC's, even when 1.0 released I think they mentioned that the majority of updates afterwards would just be general fine tuning/fixes for things, while they move away from the game onto something else.
>>722648891as someone who oversleeps and is afraid of being late to work it was kino i just wish we could return to the house and see the old faces after the epilogue
why was Priapus not considered for this sequel?
>>722723632>le hard cock manGee I dunno.
>>722723463Yeah its a bit of a shame you couldn't go back to the house after each completed run, even if it stayed in that small construction zone state. That'd give you a decent excuse to see Hades/Persephone/Zag/Hypnos/Nyx outside of random encounters.
Weird design. He looks like a zoomer and I don't understand why he looks like he's pals with the eagle that presumably eats his heart daily.
>theres an achievement you get for making it all the way to chronos with arachne's dress>you don't get an alternate dress color for beating him>not even a line of dialogue
>>722724125liver
>>722663252fanservice is fan service you fucking moron. you're just not the fan they're servicing.jesus fucking christ how autistic can you be.
>>722677383Except that in Dune he destroys foresight forever, culminating in a positive future where humanity escapes its tyrannous grasp and kickstarts a golden ageKurze sees bad thing and then completely submits to bad thing happening forever.
>>722686624>foreverHercules freed him because Zeus realized he went a bit overboard on the punishment.
>>722663252I absolutely adore how /v/irgins talk like their personal opinions and views are the universe's facts and demand everyone think exactly like they do, and everything they say is always whining and crying about how women won't hop on their dicks so they must be evil demons who hate men and destroy the patriarchy and need to be punished for their crimes.
>>722724930whine about it
>>722725045>projectingYou cute little booboos~
>>722724125He was alone with that eagle for god knows how long, not really surprising that he eventually bonded with it.
>>722725131cope, seethe, and dilate
>>722726567See what I mean about worshiping trannies?
Am I playing wrong or do all the weapons and aspects outside of the blade and sickle thing suck? Some weapons are kind of fun but they are so inefficient for DPS compared to the blades and half of them are ranged casting crap and don't really change the gameplay much. Feels like such a step down from the first game
>>722723345Athena even admits that she lost the contest and basically cursed Arachne over hurt feelings more than anything else. It's probably why it's such a sore subject for her, not because of guilt or regret because she's still an asshole olympian, but because Arachne is an enduring reminder of the time the goddess of wisdom lost her cool and acted like a basic salty bitch.
>>722702982hang yourself foid
So Chronos turned good after getting guilt tripped, but why does he turn into an effeminate soi boy too?
I really like the voice acting in these games. A lot of them are so... pleasant to listen to.
>>722726920Average god behaviour, these are the same people who will outright attack Melinoe, the girl who is actively trying to save their home from the father of all monsters, just because she didn't pick their boon first when given options between two gods.
>Add a whole café to the hub area for everyone to go to>Chronos finds out about this place in the last runNot very smart are we
Motorboating Hera's fat tits
Still upset they dropped the Artemis and Zag romance in the first game
>>722728673Is that actually true or just fan rumor shit? Doesn't really make sense for Artemis of all people to fuck guys, even if they're as nice as Zag.
>finish the man task>still don't have all the companions>look it up>it's in the very first fountain room how the fuck did i miss that
>>722729171Full release of hades 1 had a lot of artemis cut dialogue with Zag and it was more romantical
>>722729601Honestly while I dislike cut dialogue a lot of the time that feels like a good thing to leave out. Doesn't really fit with Artemis's general characterization/god background at all.
>>722727659Rape correction
the only hard mode boss in hades 1 that was annoying was hydranow its every boss in 2
>>722697176One day it confused liver for lover
>>722709617Mel buck broke Scylla so hard that she wrote three songs about how obsessed she is with her.
