>>722653146
3 is shit, but 4 still has stupid amounts of players (and there are also a lot of whales who buy cosmetics). I rage quit S9, and I still have it uninstalled. Not sure if I'm going back to S10 or later.

>>722653146
for sure, look at how much money blizzard made from that! and how many people can play on consoles!

>>722653271
>implying the opposite is true
Just because you're seething doesn't mean D4 doesn't print money.

>bought Diablo 4 a few weeks ago
>start up game last week
>"you character is not in the right realm!" Or some gay shit
>press skip
>microtransaction splash page
>press skip
>microtransaction splash page
>press skip
>microtransaction splash page

>>722653298
I was implying that Diablo didn't benefit from that, but that's what blizzard wanted and got

Keep meaning to reinstall 4 and play it again but my backlog and being busy at work has kept me from it
Probably for the best. D2R on 'eck is more than enough for my Diablo'ing needs.

4’s the best in the series. Easily. The nostalgia for Diablo II drags down the entire genre.

>>722653146
>Did Diablo benefit from becoming a seasonal online game?
Looks like it did.
2 pretty much was this too. And people call it the bestest ever.

>d2 offline
Barely anyone gives a shit. And it would be considered a lot less "best ever" by now, if there would have not been closed bnet and ladders

I haven't played since before the expansion.
Here is a list of things I didn't like:

Skills are underwhelming compared to D3
Most uniques don't have unique skins but we get 4 mogs per class per month on the shop
No set items
No cozy hub
D3 lore erasure

>>722653774
>No set items
that is a good thing. sets ruined d3

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>>722653259
retards flock to shit
nothing unusual

>>722653797
I didn't ask for d2 fanboy opinion

>>722653809
Sorry your ludokino narrative game about depression and HRT didn't make it, bud.

>>722653809
KFC are evil

>>722653848
But you'll get some.
I played more 3 than 2, am its true

>>722654067
>KFC are
Foreigner detected.

>>722653797
>sets ruined d3
Their absence has done nothing to improve D4.

I liked Rapist of Souls

>>722653146
We all agree that 3 is better than 4 right?

>>722653146
diablo 4 is shit because i doesn't have the paladin

>>722654207
Nobody likes 3 except Blizzdrones who play games with "craft" in the titles.

>>722654254
But Paladin is ass in 2?

>I don’t get the setting of Diablo. Is it like a planet, or a few towns

I dunno. I think that’s a more important question.

>>722654270
I like D3 and I don't like "craft" blizzard games.

Remember when people were memeing on
>300 stam
>400 mainstat
Items? Now its
>1.7% to deal 3% more critical poison damage to burning undead while stunned

>>722654270
never said anything about liking 3
it's just better than 4

>>722654372
They simplified that in Season 4. Now it's
>+5 to kill
>+3 to not die
The new itemization, tempering, masterworking shit is all AIDS.

>>722654372
>Now its 1.7% to deal 3% more critical poison damage to burning undead while stunned
It's not anymore. That was changed last year

>>722653146
d4 was so fucking bad i reinstalled wow

>>722654480
>had WoW installed ever
That's pretty gay, Blizzdrone-chan. Do you like pastels?

>never played through the series before
>download them all
>4 is kino
>1 is kino, but gameplay is just clicking
>2 is aesthetic kino, but gameplay is ass
>3 looks like World of Warcraft

It’s an alright series I guess. Better than Atelier, but not better than Atelier Yumia.

>>722654187
Sets would mean they would have to support more than 2 endgame builds per class.

>>722654682
I never understood why so many people got filtered by d3's art style. It looks way better than muh realism.

>>722654705
Oh no, the horror...

>>722654868
big fucking gay retarded nigger shoulder pads

kinda like in wow

>>722654868
PoE and D2 fans are addicted to hobo-core artstyle.

>>722654868
I mean 1 and 2 are pretty grimdark, I get the backlash. The initial Diablo 3 screenshots are what everyone expected.

https://x.com/davidlcraddock/status/1021021813378363394

>>722654993
Oh shut up , you are fine running around without pants and a tabula rasa on PoE

>>722654372
They changed that awhile ago because people kept calling out their retarded stat bloat.
The worst offenders if you can call them that is dealing more dmaage to enemies that are stunned/vulnerable/slowed or some shit whcih classes like barbarian, sorcerer and necromancer could easily use for example.

It was funny playing through Diablo 2 recently because after 15 years of Dark Souls, your mind just expects gibbering madness from NPCs in grimdark settings, however in D2 everyone is really well spoken.

>>722655072
No, Nigger.
They need to fire and blacklist the retards who designed them, in all games.
These shits look so terrible and dumb.
You Nigger

>>722655141
The shoulders or the hippy tabularasa?

>>722655108
All games need to get rid of number bloat. There’s nothing worse than being in a games endgame and seeing 289,091damage pop up on screen.

I know it’s done to appeal to Chinese to simulate large bank account numbers, but still.

>>722655196
Level scaling is worse

>>722655196
>level 1
>enemy health 120
>damage 10

>level 100
>enemy health 12000
>damage 1000

IT NEVER GETS BETTER HOMIE. NUMBER JUST GO UP.

>>722655196
I don't think they can outside of making bosses resistant to it.
People at the end of the day are addicted to the numbers going up and it shows.

>>722655191
the big fucking gay retarded nigger shoulder pads, you nigger

tabularasa isnt bad, just some plain white tshirt, like some of us got

>>722655361
Nah , tabularasa is way worse. So are most top-only armors in PoE.

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>>722654868
Muh realism is neat.

>>722653146
They really need to take a fat dump on nostalgia fags and make it an mmo already. With raids and gearsets. I fucking miss gameplay defining sets from D3.

Fuck D2 boomers. I hope they all fucking die soon. Ancient fucks, go have kids you worthless niggers instead of making everything worse because you're afraid of change.

>>722655430
Its intended to be a plain shirt, with nothing to it and so. That is okay.
Many other armors/items do look like shit in poe tho, ur right on that.

>>722655501
I don't trust Blizzard to make a good MMO. That said, even a good MMO won't be good, because the community has moved on. Nobody of note plays anymore.

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>>722655501
>babby is acting like boomers didn't want World of Diablo
You should be happy WoW took many of them away. Also we play offline. Cry about it.

>>722655593
Waah waah no you're forcing me to play online! Where is my offline mode and my local splitscreen like in my favourite game: Bing Bing Bongle 3 from 1995.

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>>722655501
Give it up Anon. MMOs are dead. Even the 'big ones' are struggeling
(and not just now, in current patch, but for many years)

>>722655802
imagine defending always online of all things

>>722654207
it has the crusader so yes

>>722655917
Imagine not having an internet connection with a >99% uptime. Hello third world shitskin.

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>>722656048
Imagine needing an internet connection with a >99% uptime to play a 20 year old game.

>>722656048
I too love companies having total control of my play time for no justifiable reason, fellow slurper.

>>722655896
PHANTASY STAR REBOOOT

>>722656194
Imagine being brown

>>722653146
>still no crusader or paladin
game is dead

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>>722656718
Imagine outright requiring permanent internet access at all times to verify that you do in fact own the legal rights to play a game and if you lapse for even a moment you lose all access to said game. Even if you paid for it. Even if you fucking paid for it. You advocate for this and are shameless. Grow the fuck up.

I like it

Also love being able to skip the story, lemme grind ffs

>>722656813
>skipping story

Ewwwe you’re gay you like grinding that means you grind on men

I love how Diablo 4 came out and dabbed on PoE so hard they made PoE 2

>>722654207
3 is the worst in the series having not given Immortal a fair chance.

>>722657351
No

>>722654868
I like the portraits, but the models and animations look like ass. Just compare a D2 summon necro to a D3 summon necro.

Path of Exile better

>>722655501
Yikes. Sorry you missed out on an all-time classic in Diablo 2. Your misplaced rage should be directed at Blizzard, who hasn't made a good game in like 15-20 years.

>>722653809
It's weird they pulled all of that slops more for Diablo than WoW in it's existence

>>722657223
I just want a game with poe2’s bosses and d4s story is that so hard
>what about endgame-
LMAO EHO THE FUCK DOES ENGAME NOGGA WE WORKING 9-5

>>722654207
Honestly I think 4 is better but people who act like 3 is an abomination are fagots. I hope they bring witch doctor back in 4.

>>722657728
>kill the Beast on act 5
>random soldiers in act 6 could just solo it.


Leveling means nothing in this game , could have just started at max level and be done with the pretense that it's an rpg.

>>722657728
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-VWnovUlM&pp=ygUMUG9lMSBtYXAgcnVu

>>722653259
diablo 3 after rmah is a fantastic game and better than 4

>>722655501
What would an ARPG raid even look like? I don’t even know how the camera perspective and amount of enemies affords any more than 2 player co-op.

>>722657886
Which doctor?

>>722657951
What a dimwit response. Leveling has far more important with your skill tree, gear, and skills than it does in D3 or 4. Especially with the tiny little skill twigs Blizzard gives its dumb fans lul.

>>722657880
>LMAO EHO THE FUCK DOES ENGAME NOGGA WE WORKING 9-5
This other very successful Blizzard game sounds much more like your type of game brother
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.king.candycrushsaga&hl=en

>>722657880
poe2 endgame is boring as fuck atm, mapping sucks ass and the whole atlas is such a mid 2000s idea
most people played the new league for 2-3 weeks and then dropped it because theres no point besides getting that 0,5% better item that costs 200div more than what you have

>>722658083
No it's not if random trash can solo bosses. You just have rpg mechanics and a non-rpg world.

>>722658158
Fuck yeah candy crush solid game

>>722658163
This is a real take, but the reason people do endgame stuff in other games is for glamour reasons to sit in lobbies with other players and erp.

You can’t do that in Diablo-vanias because the camera is really far away so it feels gay like you’re looking into a brothel from the window or something, hence no one does them.

>>722658212
True that.
>Candy Crush generated approximately $1.08 billion in 2024 and $1.2 billion in 2021, with total revenue exceeding $20 billion since its 2012 launch
Many games shilled on /v/ could learn a lot from them

>>722658025
Lost Ark

>>722658016
>played d3 in 2022
>16 hours before I quit
>played d4
>over 1000 hours
D3 sucked and flopped.

>>722658361
What happens in Lost Ark? My reference is FFXIV and WoW raids. What is there like 18 little dudes running around screen doing boss mechanics?

>>722658829
yes yes you have shit taste we get it

>>722653356
What did you expect from a F2P game.

>>722658867
>what happens in lost ark?
You get rejected for every group because you havent played every single day for the past 3 years
Most insular gatekept raiding community in any mmo ive ever played, sad because the combat is fun

>>722659021
>plays Diablo: Pastel Faggot Edition
>says others have poor taste
$10 you played Warcraft or Starcraft.

>>722658867
https://youtu.be/3mzjxIy7-3o

I don't play it because korean but its pretty much what you would expect

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>>722653146
I've played all of them except 4. There's no way I'm playing anything by modern blizzard

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>>722655501
Good morning saar

>>722654868
Looks like shit honestly
Maybe it's the lack of contrast

So what's actually good about d4? So far the only argumends are "it's not D3"

>>722659232
not that anon but you're saying that you've spend over 1000 hours in D4, that around s4 ported nearly all D3 system and devs even admitted it to do it poorly
yes, Indeed you have a shit taste because you got literal worse version of a thing you claim that's worse while saying it's better

>>722660491
D4 has better flow of combat because there are more skills that involve spacing.

The story is also really well presented. It’s a good game, it’s just that people are very uppity about the initial endgame the game had and modern Blizzard. Not that I can blame them, the narrative played out as if it was written by a team of Californian Satanists.

The build variety is also great, because of the added mobility in dodging and skills. Something as simple as adding a 2 second dash after executing something specific changes up entire playstyles.

Enemy variety wanes though, and bosses really only pull from bullet he’ll mechanics. Path of Exile 2 has eclipsed the entire genre in that regard by merging itself with Demons Souls.

>>722661030
See >>722654424. S4 was faggot shit, and I still hate it for the shit it implemented.

there are maybe 12 active skills in the whole game across all classes
they added a whopping 0 since release
i cannot fathom how you could play this for more than an hour and not fall asleep

>>722661221
No alternatives, for one.

>>722653146
It should've been a full blown mmo and not seasonal

I hate the reset every season aspect of the game

>>722660491
except parrotniggers and straight up shitters are wrong about d3. Even if it isn't such a huge win like d2, d3 still is far ahead of d3 simply by its own integrity and by knowing what type of game it wants to be
meanwhile, the live service d4 after 10 seasons still doesn't know what game it wants to be, changing shit around every season or every 2, while focusing more on paid customization that making an actual game
just compare d3 rifts and d4 rifts
d4 doesn't even belong to arpg genre, in any other arpg thread be it grim dawn, LE or poe1/2 d4 retards always invade and get told to fuck off. Vast majority of d4 threads due in 10 posts. That should tell you what type of "players" it have
this thread is one of those rare moments when it's more than 10 posts but still it's mostly shitting on d4 because there's nothing positive to talk about. It doesn't even have general on vg
>>722661145
yes, because they have no idea what they want to make, so they port a cheap copy that looks like shit. They wanted to add mmuh random stats and ended up with faggotry like +5 to dmg when you're standing on one leg singing at night. This is the fucking peak of their creative design. And then you look at older games itemization and options and you laugh at items like your arrow now shoots 3 arrows for 300% more damage

>>722655501
>They really need to take a fat dump on nostalgia fags and make it an mmo already. With raids and gearsets.
yeah fuck those nostalgia fags, they should definitely make the game like that 20 year old mmo!!!

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>>722653146
You shat on D4 and thought you were very smart for it. Oh you have no idea what's coming for D5.

>>722661761
Oddly, Blizzard sexy female character design is quite good, despite the company being woke to the gills.

>>722659429
I actually like that. Biased, but it looks good. Does Diablo 4 have this?

>>722661862
What’s even stranger, is that there’s nothing woke in IV.

>>722661925
Dressed succies
Fat-only druids

>>722661925
xpac exists

>>722662104
The druids are fat only, but every other class can be made to be sexy.
>>722662178
Yeah, but I don't think he'll be the same after Chyna died.

>>722653146
As an actual game? No, it killed it.

For the brain rotted casino cucks that “play it”? Yes

>>722662281
Hobo-core is not sexy.

>>722662281
actually when you remind me about character creation, you can't actually make a female that you usually see when going around irl. Way too much male features
as per xpac, entire storyline is retarded. I wont even dig on random girl resisting meph soulstone while black sousltone existed and even then Tal-Rasha knw he couldn't handle baal for eternity
like d4 story started good with grimdark, but it qucikly went retarded

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>>722662380
Sorry you don't know how to play dress up.

>>722662494
I'm not into vampire femboys

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>>722662579
Random group I was in.

>>722662494
All of the sudden I want to play this game

Can you make your character show feet in this game? Asking for a friend

>>722661925
it reeks of girlbossing and not a single male heroic figure to be found in the whole game

>>722661925
>>722662104
>>722662178
>>722662281
>>722662380
scantily clad demoness that make men of god fall from gods grace through sex is WOKE?

>>722662719
Showing neck is considered scantily dressed only in Burka-nistan

>>722662719
Yes, but Democrats are not allowed to kill demons, only take orders from them. Hence the less woke.

>>722662719
>scantily clad demoness that make men of god fall from gods grace through sex is WOKE?
newfag detected, Lilith and Inarius didn't even fuck to make the first nephalem

>>722662894
>Yes, but Democrats are not allowed to kill demons
What do you think people who engage in wrongthink are?

>>722662719
>men of god
demons and angels are the 2 sides of same coin
also sucubus in d4 are so ugly that you really wonder how ungodly magic it was to make someone get aroused by that manjaw flatboard "sex demon"

>>722653259
4 is dead as fuck lmao. Obv blizzard shill

The series peaked with 1.

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>>722663286
i make you cum and i keep on sucking just ask inarius

>>722663534
nice manface
still, they never fucked like humans do

Is this a raid or something? I've never seen this much D4 slurpers and Blizzshills in one thread.

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>>722653146
>THIS is why is working on Diablo 4
>THIS many fucking people

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>>722663586
how is that possible? either way they both had sex and thus all the demons

>>722663978
no, read the fucking book or use google

>>722656048
couldn't have a blizzard thread without one of these subhumans, lmao. eating shit with a grim on their face and calling anyone who dares to criticize daddy blizzard a shitskin

>>722663754
Yes , season not going as planned. People are still playing D3 I guess?

>>722663342
As long as shameless paypigs exist Activision have nothing to worry
I'm 100% sure starcraft limited offer was absolute banger in actiblizz cattle community.

>>722664114
either way she made a son of god fall and now inarius is in hell

>bought d4 because people were saying its d3
>its fucking not and worst than d3 in every way
Should have just listened to my gut and skipped this turd. I already knew it was going to be a flop the moment it was announced but you stupid faggots kept throwing out misinformation.

>>722665687
>worse than d3
Even PoO isn't worse than D3.

>>722664760
nope you retard, read a book or fuck off
there's no god or sons of it, stop fuckign talking shit about thign you have no idea about

>>722665687
>>its fucking not and worst than d3 in every way
sure thing, how much per hour?

>>722658829
how can you play the boring shit that is d4 for 1000 hours?
are you getting paid to do so?

>>722665807
Cope. Diablo 4 fucking sucks and Diablo 3 was fixed with RoS. So much so WoW copied a fuck ton of mechanics with Legion.

>>722665904
my bad in reading comprehension, mistook it for d4 being better than d3 and that's simply not possible

>>722662967
>virgin demon mommy waifu
Rare blizzard W.

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>>722653146
No it should have been a soulslike instead

>>722653146
Even Diablo 2 did. The first week of ladder resets on battle.net is magical, with everyone walking through the game in parties rather than rushing like usual because nobody has twinked characters, and those that do are busy farming Baal instead of wasting their time rushing people.

>>722665904
>implying WoW was anything more than an ultracasual and ultraugly Everquest for faggot Blizzdrones
>>722666196
They kept a lot of the assets, which is why it's so oddly detailed for an isometric game.

>>722666601
p1 ladder is stupid, even if you're not seriously playing you're severely gimping yourself with levels

Prior to D4, yes. D4 became a cosmetic sale abortion and all kinds of other bullshit from the start. I would have even accepted some sort of battle pass if that was the ONLY payment during the season, and there was some way to get old season content later on especially if you paid for the pass before etc. However D4 seems to have been the culmination of everything wrong with it, D3 was MUCH better as all the seasons were absolutely free and there wasn't a huge microtransaction store atop pay battlepass season shit.

>>722667597
>I NEED THESE COSMETICS

>>722668209
well , no devtime goes into gameplay so that's what we can only talk about.

>>722661761
a million "people" work on the thousand games blizzard have. so 'working at blizz' is meaningless

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>>722658829
>D3
>Flopped

Come on at least be smart.

>>722665743
shut up nerd

>>722669230
shut up nigger

>>722668209
I don't need the cosmetics but I also don't need flash sales in my face every 5 minutes.

Diablo 3 was all online at some point and then they changed it. I can’t wait till they change over 4. If I had flute internet I wouldn’t give a fuck, so whatever blizzard.

>>722669607
*fast internet

lol flute internet.

>>722669607
only on faggy consoles. 3 is still only online on real gaming machines.

>VoH is 1 year old

when announcement of paladin xpansion

D4 is fine for what it is. I enjoy playing it.
Sure it has is flaws, but so does every other ARPG in the market.

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>>722669273
you subhuman rotten waste of flesh

/v/ is full of 3rd world poor browns, no wonder they like F2P shit like POE instead of paid games like D4

>>722653146
Seasons covers for boring late game by refreshing to a point where you actually see meaningful progression. I played it more because of seasons, but it still feels like an admission that they couldn't make late game more fun.

>>722672308
hopefully americans get rangeban from 4chan

D2 > D3 = D1 > D4

>>722670830
MANFACE
>>722670359
d4 is not arpg
>>722673275
you're comparing dungeon crawler to a 2 arpgs and a live service

Diablo games are a downward ladder in quality.

>>722673445
>2 arpgs and a live service
explain how d2,3,4 are not all the same in that regard

>>722672308
with all of its micro transactions d4 resembles a f2p game more than anything else

>>722653259
I played every class in 4 to max level and they all feel the same and I don't even know what I would make for other seasons. I'd rather play 3 but I fucking hate that game too. This entire genre is dogshit designed to turn you into a gambling addict like Destiny 2 or any other modern WRPG.

>>722658016
D3 is still objective shit

>>722674163
It also fucking sucks and transactions take too long, I got some free stuff and you have to sit through the full fucking animation before you can move on.

>>722674093
d2 is the classic arpg that spawned the entire genre proper
d3 was close to being live service, but got actual xpac, every other content otuside necro was included with base game price and xpac. Always online made
d4 meanwhiel lack any originality, every season introduces battlepass ina game that you need to buy, then other xpac. On top fo that you have various cosmetics to buy. Game lack any depth, doesn't know what type of game it wants to be and relies on not only copying previosu titles, but doing it even worse (d3 itemization, rift dugneons etc). With character playstyle customziation limited even more, it's hardy an arpg. Just a sandbox with mmo-styled world, awlasy online, with heavy focus on microtransaction than actual gameplay
if you even compare ladders, you have more people pushing grifts in d3 than people pushing anything in d4. At one point d3 re-season was delayed 1-2 weeks after d4 season because previous d3 season had literal queues while d4 was on. Like people were thinking that they judged d3 too harshly

>>722653146
Financially for Blizzard shareholders, yes. For the quality of the games that came after 2? No