>>722653170
they made it open world and slapped a motorbike on it so I'm writing it off until proven wrong.

but I haven't liked any of the 2D metroids recently either so I had low expectations. The combat in Other M sucks, the free rotational aim rather than 8-way aim and melee counter spam of M2SR and Dread is too big a divergence from classic 2D metroids.

So I didn't expect whoever is making this to make the game I want. Thankfuly if I want to I can still shove the prime games in my GCN/Wii and play that way but fuck, I am tired of games companies playing memeberberries in the pet semetary.
"we resurrected the thing you liked as a youngster... what do you mean you don't like what we did with it? it's only gnawing your flesh a little. Be thankful you have any metroid!"

>>722653170
metroid died after super

Not at all

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>that exact moment when my hype has vanished entirely

Nothing wrong with them trying new things. Would be boring if they played it safe by copying Prime 1.

>>722653170
I bought Dread as a favor to Metriodfags and it was only alright, I will not be doing the same for Prime 4.

Metroid is a relic of a bygone era of westernized Nintendo where people actually thought the game with the kid in the Peter Pan hat was gritty fantasy that could be ruined by a vibrant colorful artstyle.

>>722653751
The fact they thought this was something so good that it warranted being shown off is a massive red flag.

>>722653170
I'm in the middle. People are likely blowing the bike out of proportion considering it's likely only for a few specific segments of the world. The real concern is that it does make you wonder how much the world's going to be split up instead of cleverly interconnected. Past that, the game looks like just more Metroid Prime, with the psychic gimmick thus far not looking that exciting.

Some issues I've seen around to write off the game outright feel overblown, but underneath I do think the game still seems lacking in inspiration. Want to be wrong about that, yet the marketing is really not helping fight that doubt in my mind. I actually feel Air Riders is in a similar boat where it seems to be playing it too safe, but it's at least getting marketed far better.

>>722653170
Not really at all.

>>722653585
What does "open world" even mean in regards to Metroid as the gameplay has always been very open? There's no proof that the game is completely nonlinear.

>>722653997
>they're blowing the bike out of proportion
>except for the real concern which is something separate than the vague proportion I just mentioned
what did he mean by this

>>722653170
I think people who ever had serious hope for a high-quality sequel to metroid prime 3 are delusional in their expectations.

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>/v/ermin pretending to hate pic related just to shit on nintendo
you niggers lost the plot

>>722654112
My point was that if the bike is how you go between a lot of areas on the map, it makes it seem less likely that these areas are actually connected outside the bike segments. The whole point of the mechanic outside being a poor attempt to look flashy seems to be traversal through the planet. The pro is it can make the world feel bigger, but if areas are going to largely be disconnected it will just feel hollow in practice. The world could be big enough or paced well enough to avoid this issue, but it's still a question over the game.

I didn't say the bike was lacking in issues. The segments they showed off look basic, and the sand area just does not look appealing visually. Meant more to say that the bike itself seems like a smaller issue that might indicate bigger issues with the game. Lot of discussion I've seen mainly just focuses on why the bike itself sucks and not the larger implications you could pull from its presence.

Maybe I worded this weirdly since I'm sleep deprived, but even then I thought my point was clear enough.

>>722653170
not at all really, it looks fun.
the bike areas just seem like little areas to utilize the bikes speed. they are more like tony hawk skate parks than open worlds
nobody has pointed out that samus is always near a wall in these areas and how there is a second one in an ice level

>>722654112

He’s saying that idiots are sharting themselves in rage thinking that it’s “open world” when in reality it’s just a big hub area, which is a different issue altogether.

>>722655106
Basically this, yeah. Well in practice, it might end up being a few mostly empty or generic hub areas for different segments of the game. Could see something like three large areas akin to the sand area from the last trailer, then a few other dedicated bike segments like the towers.

why do so many retards think prime 4 is open world? its metroid and there will be item checks shutting you out of certain areas

>>722655106
It gave me Hyrule Field (Twilight Princess) vibes, which isn't exactly a great thing. But I'll take that over a massive, empty 'open world'.

I'm not terribly concerned about the gsme, but in terms of tone and acope I'm fully expecting a Prime 3-2. Federation interference throughout the plot, mostly detached areas/biomes like the planets in Corruption, and just lacking the sovl that the first two games had. Expecting an 8/10, would love for it to be a 9/10.

>>722653170
Why would I be?

>>722655510
Echo everything you're saying here, even down to the comparisons to both Hyrule Field and the planets from Prime 3. Glad I'm not the only one thinking along those lines.

This is the only game I'm looking forward to.

The Metroid fandom bullying is going to be unreal after this comes out, I just know it.

>>722653170
Unbothered. Knew it was shit from the first trailer that had gameplay long before the bike.

>“it‘s not fully open world!“
I don‘t care. Even having areas connect to a giant hub instead of being connected to each other is horrible and clearly a copout for devs who suck at world design. What a waste of time waiting for this garbage.

>Tendy IP
There is nothing to worry about courtcase "devs" on a vidya board

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>SPACE MAREENES NPC'S
Pre-order cancelled
>Motorbike
Interest in the series lost forever.

>>722653170
I think I just stopped caring about nintendo entirely. They don't have any franchises I can trust. Zelda died with BotW, Metroid has always sucked, no more smash bros, Mario and mario kart turned stupid, donkey kong turned gay, splatoon was never fun, fire emblem is eternally censored, etc.

>>722653170
I'm not anymore.
Because all my interest in it has already died.

>>722653170
>psychic girl trope for the 100th time this decade
>open world sloppa
Yep its a mariover

>>722653170
Not worried at all because I don't care about the franchise anyways.

I hope it flops so this franchise finally dies instead of being a rotting zombie

>>722653751
this got my defenses up.
then that lingering shot of an empty desert still managed to hurt.

>>722659632
Dread didn‘t flop so we‘re still getting a sequel to that unfortunately

>>722653751
BotW and its repercussions have been a disaster

>>722653751
>You don't control the bike in Morph Ball mode, acting as a tire
Missed oppertunity.

>>722653170
Not worried because since they showed the motorbike my interest for the game dropped to 0

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>>722653170
>Desert looked too vast for the amount of content it appears to offer.
>More traditional levels looked good, main concern is just how linear they may end up being.
It honestly depends on what the balance is between these two elements. A lot of my favourite vidya have elements which are just outright shit, but so long as the good stuff is really good and outweighs the bad, I don't really care.

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>>722653170
>MP1
>No dialogue, no voice acting, entirely environmental story telling
>MP2
>Dialogue, no voice acting, dialogue is mostly just lore fluff and can be skipped
>MP3
>Dialogue, full voice acting, awkwardly stand around in super long cutscenes, constantly told exactly what you're going to be doing
Funnily enough this applies exactly the same to Pikmin and both Metroid Prime and Pikmin completely fell off for me after the third entries, so I already had little hope for MP4 but I still want it to at least exist.
The Psychic abilities and seeing how they completely invalidate every enemy is some MP3 X-Ray Visor bullshit, and seems like a purple hypermode replacement, but the open world aspect just made me feel old and no longer the target audience. I'll check it out anyways because I've been waiting since 2017, but I don't expect anything I'm going to fall in love with.

>>722660621
>MP1
>No dialogue, no voice acting, entirely environmental story telling
The opening cutscene?

>>722661179
nobody in this thread plays a metroid. were here to shitpost about it because twitter influencers told us to be mad

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>>722653170
Pretty concerned after the recent trailer.
Everything shown before the bike trailer looked OK. Not amazing or anything, but it looked like Metroid Prime. Looked like the best I could expect from Metroid Prime in the current year.
Which is good. I was satisfied.
That's all I could have asked for.

And then the bike threw me into questioning if/how much of it is going to be BOTW-ized.

>>722653170
it probably won't be worse than Prime 3

>>722662106
And the paw curls again

>>722662106
People underrate Prime 3.
It very much could be.

>>722662264
no people overrate prime 3. the game is incredibly mediocre. the core gameplay is fun but there's nothing left of what made 1 & 2 great.

>>722653170
>pre bike reveal
not worried at all, fuck you doomerfags, its pretty fucking obvious you are all discord raiders and or snoys
>post bike reveal
damn.

>>722662327
I feel bad for you not being able to take it at face value for the good things it does.

Not at all. I'm looking forward to playing it in fact.

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>>722653170
>fearmongering thread

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>>722653170
>8 years in the making, with a fraction of it wasted with Bamco
>reportedly the most expensive nintendo game to date, budget well into the hundred-millions
>needs to sell several millions just to make its money back, and even more to be considered a success
>…while metroid has historically been one of nintendo’s lowest-selling franchises
>every ad just turns more and more people away from the game, a near decade of hype amounting to nothing
F-Zero and Star Fox will no longer be alone as nintendo’s dead franchises Only difference is that metroid deserved it

>>722663040
Would you prefer blind hope-mongering?
Shilling, perhaps?

>>722653170
every since I saw that they decided to continue with the Sylux bullshit I dropped it, so I don't really care about it anymore

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She killed billions

>>722663193
Oh piss off.

I've been waiting for this ever since Hunters on the DS and the ending of Prime 3 teases Sylux stalking Samus.

>>722663314
yeah, the two games that cemented the beginning of the end for Metroid as a series. It figures you "waited" for "Sylux"

>>722653170
Will be the best Prime since 2 and will get really good scores. At least above Ghost of Wokie.

>>722663393
Thank god the journalists will enjoy it. That‘s all that matters.

>>722653170
Metroid Prime was never good

I’m not. Any idiot that is should watch the trailers for Prime 1 and 2

I don't like Prime series (dropped it at 2), so I don't really care.

>>722663131
I would prefer just waiting for the game to be released first before giving an opinion about it.

>>722663609
So why are you entering a thread about it?

I'll wait for a deep dive video before I decide to be hyperbolic like the modern 21st century ADHD retards in here trying to write off. Kys.

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>>722663785
I don't know anymore man, I should be hiding obvious falseflagging threads, but here I am.

>>722659771
Or maybe, I don't know, using the speed booster? Even Other M had the decency to include it for faster traversal.

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>>722659681
>ruin Animal Crossing with durability
>ruin Mario Kart with vast stretches of nothing
>ruin Metroid Prime with vast stretches of nothing
>ruin top down Zelda boy having millions of useless fucking novelty items you have to sift through
>ruin Zelda storytelling as a whole
Fuck Aonuma
Fuck Fujibayashi

>>722664080
>Zelda storytelling
Lmao
And get some friends, lose, Mario Kart is great

>OMG omg no!!!
>There's uhh traversal and bigger areas!!
>According to my autistic criteria for that Metroid Prime is that's now allowed!!!

Kys you fucking faggots.

>>722664080
>ruin Animal Crossing with durability
lol, sure bro, its the DURABILITY that made the new AC shit. not the lack of content or the NPCs all just being soulless templates with no real opinions of their own anymore, or the full transformation to a dollhouse simulator where you are a god who can reshape the earth as you see fit rather than having to spend months praying tortimer will decide to build a bridge at that one spot.
No its the fact that your axe breaks (something that's been in the series since the first game)

I'm not worried about the quality of the game at all. Simultaneously, I'm not as into Prime as I used to be. I probably won't pick it up for a while unless I see something particularly novel to me.

>>722664378
Are you gonna shit yourself if I don't buy the game?

>>722653170
for me it was the aliasing in the trailer. you're making a DLSS console and one of your exclusives doesn't even use it or uses a bad version that leaves aliasing in the image? it screams that this game is just a Switch 1 project in severe development hell.

>>722653971
yeah
>here's an empty and fairly flat terrain with enemies popping out of the ground and your bike auto-targets them with missiles or whatever
>you have a motorcycle WHY, instead of just running fast or rolling fast as a morphball
they thought this was going to impress anyone? it's technologically comparable to Shadow of the Colossus, minus the impressive aspects of that game (the colossi and the textures)

>>722664694
You don't even have a switch 2.

>>722664789
*also on switch 1

>>722664789
So? Are you gonna shit yourself?

>>722653170
Not much. I'm 46 so I don't need to be a doomer anymore and shit on things before they're released to fit in.

>>722664817
Exactly why the graphics don't look as good as they should. The game should have only been made with the SW2 in mind.

>>722661179
the shitty voiceover wasnt in the original US version thankfully

People shitting on this game are all shitposters, as this is obviously Prime 3 all over again.

>>722664849
Kys PC tard. Why are you in here? Go play tranny porn games on Steam.

>>722653170
At this point? Very. I could deal with a somewhat boring entry in the series considering how long it has been since Corruption, but everything shown since the last Direct has been antithetical to what a Prime (or Metroid) game should be.
>bike
It's gay. Nowhere near as cool as the devs thought, and it doesn't fit the "feel" of the series. Might as well strip her down to the Zero Suit if we're going for generic "cool girl" vibes.
>open-ish world design
We don't know the extent, but anything "open world" does not belong here.
>ores
The fuck do we need a currency for? To make the open world areas feel less empty? No one was asking for something to grind in Prime.

>>722653170
Not worried, I have no faith in modern Nintendo to begin with. I hope if at least has a good soundtrack. I still listen to tallon overworld depths

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>>722653170
Not a big fan of the game, wich means I dont give a shit.
The motorcycle looks stupid as fuck by the way.

>>722664516
The axe breaking isn't a problem, landscaping isn't a frequent activity and you aren't missing out on anything by backtracking to the store to buy another. If a fish/bug that I don't have spawns right as my current rod/net break I cannot catch them. If a balloon with an item I need flys over my head but my slingshot broke on the last one I can't pop it.
All of this is ignoring that GOLD tools break as well, the ones that are supposed to be better versions of the starting tools, and in NH they cost gold nuggets to even craft. Why on earth would anyone think using the rare gold nuggets to craft an expendable resource is a good thing?

>>722665193
>ores
Where the fuck did you get this from?

>>722653170
Worried? I love vidya, I will play until the grave but...worried? why would I be worried? If the game is bad, its just another bad game. I dont think or dwell to much on bad games. What for?

>>722654112
Midwit

>>722663131
As oppose to posting daily on how the game will be shit

>>722665024
>people put up with a voice over in Prime
Gross. Didn't know I dodged a bullet by playing the original US GameCube release. Honestly, people's obsession with Trilogy and the remake is confusing to me. Prime was made for the GameCube controller, and it shows. Doesn't help that the difficulty was gimped in later releases.

>>722665407
I believe that came from Nintendo's website.

>>722665168
I'll take that as a yes.

>>722665193
There is no way they made a metroid game with currency

>>722653170
i am cautiously optimistic

t. boomer who played prime at release

>>722666286
You're over 60 years old?

Im not buying a switch 2 for it, thats for sure

>>722666286
mentally, yes

>>722666405
You don't have to.
It's a Switch 1 game.

>>722653170
Both prime 2 and 3 sucks balls so i have no expectations from this series except for maybe another dread like game

>>722666162
To be fair, we don't really know the purpose of the ore, but it seems weird that they would call it out on their website if it wasn't important to the game somehow. If they're bold enough to go open with the game, I can see why people would be worried that they would add a currency.

>>722666593
Prime 2 mogs the fuck out of 1. Go play a walking sim.

I was a big fan of trilogy back then.

Now? I don't care at all. Nothing is sacred anymore

>>722653585
You are just a Super fan, Dread is by far a superior Metroid Fusion/ZM, there will never be another 2D Metroid game that focus solely on exploration unless Nintendo allows a indie developer to make a Metroid game, even the Prime Games change their focus from Exploration to Action/Adventure with Prime 3.

>>722659413
Zelda died long before BotW with u finished games like WW and unispired slop like TP that the director didn't even want to make.

>>722670647
unfinished games*

You can tell this thread is full of nuntendo fans, people probably in their 30s, with no family or job to speak of, who’ve been hyper-focused on gaming for years and are now burned out, unable to enjoy a hobby they never learned to balance with the rest of their life. What a sad state. Thankfully, it’s just a small echo chamber, much like the deranged GameCube fans.

>>722670647
WW was great you troon.

>>722653170
>Samus takes off the mask
>she's indian

>>722653170
Just disinterested, not worried. I don’t think I’m the target audience for this game. I liked Super Metroid, Zero Mission and the first three Prime games, though.

>>722665407
I saw a thread on here yesterday with quotes from the game’s Japanese website that talked about how there are ores to collect in the overworld.

50/50
On one hand, what we’ve seen points to dogshit
On the other hand, people have heavily doubted Retro before, so we might be proven wrong

I think most of the people mad probably have played 1 or 2 Metroid games (if that). They likely were not going to play this or cannot afford it.

>>722671030
I'm a 30s Nintendo fan with no family and hyperfocused on games who is excited for this game.

>>722672292
>dogshit
What we’ve seen looks like standard Prime gameplay, plus some driving. Why are you idiots so hyperbolic?

>>722653662
Dread was ok.
Prime 1-3 were amazing.

>>722653170
Its so over I stopped caring

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I like how no 3D game has done metroidvania as good as Prime to this day. Nothing comes remotely close. Prime just came in, had 3 games, fucked off and now every dev wishes they could make something Prime tier.

MP4 might be trash though. I'm a bit worried. MP1-3 were very optimized and well programmed even in it's time.
They fucked up the remaster of MP1 in minor ways (mainly textures) but those fuck ups are a good indicator of coding ability for the team making this. You must dot your i's.

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wtf were they thinking?
>let's take a game that is about optimising path finding in a 3D labyrinth with speed
>lol let's just make it nothing but desert

>>722672880
Prime 1 was amazing
Prime 2 was okay
Prime 3 was mediocre

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>>722653170
Samus already has two methods of traversing big distances: the Speed Boost and a FUCKING AIRSHIP.
Giving her a bike is absolutely retarded.

>>722672838
The driving looks bad and unwanted.

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Fuck me, the trailer looks so slow and sluggish.
I hadn't checked it until just now.
Holy fuck.

>>722672838
They added too much
But from my perspective, they might actually be doing good
Also from what the leakers (people who leaked accurate things like the desert environment and motorcycle) say this game is fun and the demo players say this game is fun

Who cares switch 2 is an expensive piece of shit with literally no games now. MP4 was the saving grace now for it but now it's just a chink tablet that sucks money from your wallet.

>>722673484
What most perplexes me is that they wouldn’t even have to change anything mechanically to replace the bike with the Speed Boost. It does the exact same thing the Speed Boost does, making you move fast and break through obstacles. I guess they thought it would look sillier than using a vehicle?

>>722673484
Warthogs are pretty fun though... hmmm.
I'm more worried about the labyrinth gameplay. It's kinda slow. The enemies seem to tank a lot of damage, but there's not enough visual and audio feedback to make that satisfying like in MP1.

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>>722653170
It might still be good, but I’ve given up on it being great. Open world sloppification was the worst case scenario and it looks like it’s come to pass.

It’s pretty funny that Metroid Dread somehow managed to come out before this game.

>>722653170
Not at all, there's no way they're actually going full retard open world like Zelda, the bike will be fun.

>>722673613
I'll guess we'll see.
Not like I'm going to be buying or playing this anyway.

>>722673761
Yeah, this game was started well before Dread.
That's kinda insane.

>>722673783
Why are you here then? Christ, you people are fucking dumb

>>722653997
>The real concern is that it does make you wonder how much the world's going to be split up instead of cleverly interconnected
I'll fucking kneel if every area ends up being still connected under the surface and you just need to go back up sometimes to unlock the door from the other side.

I don’t hate the idea of the bike as a fast traversal option to negate the need for fast travel or elevators. The issue is that the bike and the generic desert #437 look like fucking shit.

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>>722673982
To press S to spit?
Samus is a bit of a brat.

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I choose to remain optimistic it will be good, because otherwise 7 years of the sunk cost fallacy will literally kill me.

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>>722653170
I was worried when I saw the stupid suit and psychic powers, I gave up all hope when the retarded bike and open world showed up

>>722674410
Free yourself, anon. It’s okay to admit that Metroid Prime 4 is a kids game that we both managed to outgrow our interest in over the last eight years.

>>722673861
And Dread was mythical vaporware for ages, never officially announced until they started marketing. They announced this game before the Switch came out. It’s one of the reasons why I bought one!

>>722653170
I'm not worried in the slightest
because I shan't be buying

>>722674565
I guess Metroid 6 will probably be good at least. Still sucks knowing this is probably the end of the Prime games. I think the original trilogy still holds up. Echoes is pure kino. The more they show of Beyond the worse it looks.

>>722673613
I think it’s worth trusting the word of people who have verifiably actually played this game, but there’s no getting around the fact that the third trailer makes it look like generic open world slop. It looks like Titanic Scion, and not in a good way. Their marketing people need to be fired, if you look at the footage objectively there is a good game in there but the unflattering presentation is killing the hype.

>>722675139
Making 4 good Prime trailers is an impossible task. The gameplay is not exciting to watch

>>722675334
Surely they can do better than this shit however??

>>722673613
>Also from what the leakers (people who leaked accurate things like the desert environment and motorcycle) say this game is fun and the demo players say this game is fun
The same leakers also say that every single new Pokemon game is a 10/10 masterpiece with flaws. Why are you listening to blatant shills?

>>722675334
that's what's wrong with Prime all along. why the fuck is a 3D version of METROID not exciting to watch? it should be. in real Metroid games you have to aim your shots and you get to go fast. Prime is a disgrace to Metroid.

>>722675829
autistic hyperbolic faggotry aside, it never sat right with me that samus is incredibly acrobatic in 2d and the exact opposite in 3d. and after 20 year of advanced movement mechanics in shooters all they can manage is apparently a directional dash and the same lock-on strafe shooting from 2002. playing like a prime game isn’t necessarily a bad thing but it’s also fucking dated

>>722675479
I don’t know. The marketing has been so long tail that they’ve had to spread shit super thin and keep the exciting shit buried. If the final prelaunch trailer is ass, sure, they suck. But I think they’re just holding their cards close to the chest until the advertising really matters, when the game is for sale. This happens with a ton of Nintendo marketing. That’s why this doomposting is so stupid at this point

>>722653170
They will probably have a dedicated Direct later this month that reveals all. Then we will know. We have only seen little snippets of the game because it's not done and Retro is still getting is polished. The crunch must be pretty crazy right now.

I thought the big electric towers looked rad as fuck, so that should be interesting at least
though I'm hopeful 50% of the game isn't spent on the bike. I'm sure it's cool, but at the end of the day I want "Metroid Prime but more of it"

>>722653971
FWIW Retro doesn't make the trailers. Nintendo does. This is what Nintendo corporate wanted to show for whatever reason.

>>722653170
All prime games are dogshit, it will probably still be more fun than the previous 3, but still inferior to every 2d game.

>>722676114
I mean, TotK marketing was shit right up until that hype story trailer and the game still aged like milk. The best marketing in the world is still akin to polishing a turd. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

>>722653170
I really don't care.

>>722654567
The trailer made it look like the desert area is adjacent to the other areas rather than in the center. They may be connected to eachother.

>>722653170
>Female protagonist

Absolutely not.

>>722676401
genuinely retarded opinion, I pity (you)

>>722676475
>aged like milk
I don’t give a shit about revisionist history internet zeitgeist garbage. You get the idea. Even for shorter marketing campaigns, they hide shit. Odyssey hid captures. DK hid Paluine and bananzas. Etc

>>722676907
They shouldn't hide anything. If a game being spoiled would somehow ruin it, then it's a terrible game to begin with.

>>722676561
Prime 1 (the most overrated one) is literally just "what if we did metroid, but worse in every way to accommodate for 3d fps gameplay". I fucking love running through the same long hallways full of tanky enemies shooting at me over and over again.

>>722673394
this looks significantly worse than prime 1 wtf

>>722676401
Not liking Echoes is as bad as liking Other M, DESU. Ultimate taste filter.

Other m has better gameplay than the entire prime trilogy.

>>722666726
Funny because Prime 2 IS a walking sim.

>>722677271
Prime 2 is a Zelda game.

>>722677360
hi dobson

>>722654112
they mean they get what they fucking deserve.
like this autist >>722655510 who thinks TP and MP3 are indicators or quality. The absolute fucking state of modern metroid fags.

>>722677360
>auto aim
>invincibility button with zero cooldown
>directional pad for movement
Pretending to be retarded is still retarded.

>>722677514
Probably why it’s the best of the trilogy LMAO

>>722677360
that's not saying much.

>>722677561
But /v/ told me he was reformed!

>>722677772
holy shit Dobson has reformed? get the bike pumps!

>>722677035
That statement is retarded, and it’s completely irrelevant, moron. We’re not discussing them hiding things entirely, we’re talking about releasing the more exciting advertisements when it’s closer to the game being on sale. Please gain a braincell or shut the fuck up

>>722653170
I think it was always an uphill battle the second they gave it the number 4. Numbered sequels statistically don't do well compared to what came after since it implies to the average consumer that they have to play three other games before hopping in. Only times this doesn't apply are when it is generally known the sequels are actually self-contained stories/worlds (Final Fantasy) or the games have a subtitle in place of a number instead (Fire Emblem or something else I can't think of). Metroid has a timeline and the Prime games follow up on each other. 4 is fucked purely because they never rereleased 2 and 3 to help the masses get the picture.

>>722678003
Every part of the game should be exciting. There's no reason for a game to have bad parts.

>>722678035
*before

>>722653170
Metroid Prime 3 was by far the worst in the series, had ugly character designs and a whole "avengers" group of bounty hunters (who get corrupted and become enemies but who cares they all sucked). This one was absolutely plagued by development issues, was in development hell, and most importantly is on a console I'm not fucking buying, ever. I'm super done with Nintendo and have been for like 10 years now, but I'm extra done with them in the past 2 years.

>Have all the Metroid amiibo.
>Want the new ones too.
>$30, $30, $40.
Fuck off with that.
>Wife preorders all of them as a gift.
Th-thanks.

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>>722653170
It looks fine. I was hoping for a game that has taken nearly 8 years to exist to be better than ‘fine’ but it’s fine. Hopefully the bike is, at worst, a side gimmick that doesn’t get in the way of the actual Metroid Prime exploration-shooter gameplay.

>>722678003
>We’re not discussing them hiding things entirely, we’re talking about releasing the more exciting advertisements when it’s closer to the game being on sale.
anon you are coping. The game looks like absolute fucking ass, just admit it

>>722678080
I told you to shut the fuck up, retard. And watching a puzzle be solved or an environment explored is not exciting. Doing it yourself is fun. That’s the simple issue at the heart of Prime advertising. Ig you’re too stupid to grasp that, please do video game discussion a favor and end your life

>>722678585
>And watching a puzzle be solved or an environment explored is not exciting
That sounds like a (you) problem. I love watching a puzzle be solved or environments explored, if done right, because that means it'll be even more fun when you do it personally.

Hollow Knight: Silksong never really had this issue. From the first trailer the game looked super fun. They didn't "hide the good parts behind the bad parts". Wonder what Nintendo's excuse is.

>>722678391
It looks like a prime game with a motorcycle. You think this is a great trailer, retard?
https://youtu.be/kLfkkSD15zQ

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>>722653170
>How worried are you for this one?

When was the last bad Metroid Prime game?

>>722678839
>No motorcycle or n open world tranny pandering
. Looks better.

>>722678776
>I love watching puzzles be solved for me
i’m sure you do lol. and silksong was only okay, and it certainly wasn’t because of its quality puzzles or exploration

>>722678947
Cute question question

>>722678839
NTA but aside from the shitty music and weird color-inversion shit this trailer is vastly more interesting than anything they’ve done for MP4 so far.

>>722679138
question dodge*

>>722679036
I mean, it's a better game than Metroid Dread, and it was made without Nintendo's trillion dollar warchest.

>>722678839
>You think this is a great trailer, retard?
yes?... pure fucking gameplay, if anything it makes the combat look more intense than it actually is.

>>722679206
it was a different time anon, butt rock was in

>>722679208
>>722679138
>so mad forgot how to use words

>>722678289
>development issue
>development hell

Stop lying. Development went fine since they restarted under Retro

>>722679206
No it doesn’t. It’s just Samus being shot and shooting without moving her aim at all and the most basic scenes of the morph ball being lifted by a piston or going into a hole
>>722679263
Maybe if you have a toddler’s brain that’s fooled by the song and the gaudy video editing, sure

>>722679473
>y-you’re mad
and the concession is complete

>>722679508
>surely you don’t like this trailer
>hm yes I do actually
>n-no you don’t
Not sure where you’re trying to go with this.

>>722664051
>use the booster to activate the shinespark
>get locked into flying animation for 60 seconds because you aimed slightly at the sky by accident and need to hit the edge of the world

>>722679234
it’s funny how desperate HK fans are for everyone to praise the slop they eat. the tasteless masses love your game, no need to come here and show your inferiority complex. glad you enjoyed your fetch quests

>>722679807
Or, hear me out, they could just let you cancel the speed booster shinespark any time you want.

>>722679807
>erm actually using the Speed Booster in 3D would be gay
How did we get here

>>722679834
>it’s funny how desperate HK fans are for everyone to praise the slop they eat. the tasteless masses love your game,
If the masses love the game, then why would fans be desperate for people to praise it? lol did you even read your own post?

>>722679508
>Maybe if you have a toddler’s brain that’s fooled by the song and the gaudy video editing, sure
i think your anger is making you read stuff i never wrote.

>>722679234
Hollow Knight < Dread < Silksong seems a fair deal. Silksong is an improvement over Hollow Knight because its movement and combat are actually good, while still providing a good worldmap to explore. Hollow Knight was massively overrated.

>>722679785
I don’t really care that you like it when anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see it isn’t any good. The point stands on its own. You not discussing the particulars is just icing

>>722680054
So you’re just being an annoying faggot, got it. MP4’s advertising is still dogshit.

>>722653751
They had to remake this game and get a new developer because they werent happy with how it looked. This was suppose to be an early switch title. How fucking bad must their first draft have been.

>>722653170
Looks like if Halo Infinite came out for the GameCube

>>722659771
Shit, that would be so much cooler than the bike.

>>722679950
Do you not know what an inferiority complex means? I didn’t think you were that retarded lol

>>722680054
>I don’t really care
lol
lmao even

>>722680247
>inferiority complex
Says the guy desperately shitting on HK and calling it slop because it's not a Nintendo exclusive.

>>722680054
>posts ancient trailer as ‘proof’ that beyond’s marketing hasn’t been a total flop
>every anon likes it
>panics
kek just shut up anon your bullshit backfired

>>722680146
guaranteed it looked better but ran like shit.

>>722680395
>talking about Prime 4
>”silksong is better than dread!!!”
Lmao, I just think silksong isn’t very good and said so, since you pivoted the conversation like the assmad moron you are. Again, you’re free to go play you’re amazing metroidvania with rng drop fetchquests

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>they’re fighting again
I like both. I hope MP4 is worth the wait like Silksong was. It’s not looking good but I’m optimistic it’s one of those games you just have to feel for yourself. I always thought the original Deus Ex was just a forced meme by schizos, then I played it and loved it.

>>722680142
>>722680308
>>722680519
>it’s good!
>how
>…YOU’RE MAD, EVERYONE LOVES IT
lol, okay

>>722680738
>I just think Silksong isn't very good
>"it’s funny how desperate HK fans are for everyone to praise the slop they eat. the tasteless masses love your game"

Inferiority complex, he says. l o l

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>>722680921
>doubling down
Sometimes I forget the average user isn’t pretending to be retarded for attention, and really is just a stupid cocksucker.

>>722680921
That's not what happened People told you why they think is good, and you started calling them retards.
You are so mad you are now lying to save face.

>>722681146
still waiting for that argument, buddy :)

>>722653170
Not worried at all, I trust retro. If it sucks I'll just pretend I predicted it was going to suck the whole time and join the shitposting fest on /v/. But you can bet if it's even slightly above mediocre I'll be calling it kino and posting screenshot collage threads constantly before I'm even finished with the game.

>>722681143
Do you think there is some contradiction here? Silksong has mmo padding that you fellate and swallow without a second thought. No u-ing doesn’t really make sense here, though I know it’s all you’ve got lol

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>>722681307
The Metroidfag copium is terminal. And believe me fellas, I get it. I want nothing more than for this game to be good. But at the end of the day, the shitty trailers are irrelevant. The game looks bad because it’s just like that. Maybe it will still work out in the end, but I’m not holding my breath.

>>722679935
Other M
One could even argue the Screw Attack in Prime 2 and 3 sucking ass

>>722681643
>Silksong has mmo padding
Meanwhile, the official description from Prime 4's JP website:

>Additionally, you can use special actions while aboard your motorbike to fight enemies and destroy ores scattered across the ground as you make your way through uncharted territory.
>destroy ores just like in heckin minecraft XD

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I LOVE openworldslop SO MUCH.
I can't wait to ride across nothingness, encountering nothing while picking rocks and sand for no reason.

>>722683229
It will be worse than that. You’ll need to grind for rocks and sand while infinitely respawning enemies fuck with you nonstop. That’ll be seventy bucks, cuck.

>>722653170
After how great Metroid Dread was, I knew no matter what shape or form Metroid Prime 4 took, it was always going to disappoint. I just didn't expect it to disappoint this hard.

>redditors are on the other m historical revisionism arc again
I knew they were retarded but this is astounding. Are metroidfags just fucking stupid in general? You cucks aren’t much better.

>>722684729
It's a similar case with Halofags.

>>722684729
>Other M
I had always hoped that the game would be bad in a fun way, but to my absolute disappointment, it's just fucking boring (with a bizarrely cringe story for you to endure).

>>722685989
Same. I replayed it in the leadup to Dread and it was an absolute slog.
The only thing it has going for it are the visuals.

>>722680146
Nintendo makes games by starting with the gameplay and they don't flesh out the story/graphics/etc. until that is rock solid. I'm guessing Namco was working on some kind of engine and basic game design that just never clicked like the Retro games.

Retro's engine is one of the most versatile and powerful engines out there. It's the reason there has never been another game like Metroid Prime. There is really complex and immersive gameplay in their games that's hard to program if you don't have the right tools.

>>722686403
You know, you could at least try to not sound like a marketing shill.

>Retro's engine is one of the most versatile and powerful engines out there. It's the reason there has never been another game like Metroid Prime. There is really complex and immersive gameplay in their games that's hard to program if you don't have the right tools.
A thousand FPS titles have come out that did Prime's gameplay far better. Objectively the shooting is utter toilet and is only saved by scanning and exploring. But in a competition, I'd rather play Unreal tournament or Team Fortress. They just objectively have better gunplay.

>>722653170
Never finished Prime 1. Never tried Prime 2. Never finished Prime 3. Love the 2D games, but I just don’t care.

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>>722653170
>3D Metroid
I don't care. Thanks for reminding me that I don't care though.

>>722654036
I mean I don't think it's open world like that anon and that the prevailing wisdom that the open section will be hub worlds but I don't see any positive knock-on effects to the metroid prime 1 and 2 formula from that either. Everyone already seemed to agree Prime 3 was a step down by having ship travel and I just see this as a less-abstracted version of that. I'd rather new technology be used to make the Prime worlds larger without the need for any travel abstractions like elevators at all. But I also don't see a world where these hub world sections are added without also making all the actual content zones one way in, one way out and simplified from what they could've been. More likely I see a world where are the exploration locked behind mobility items happen almost exclusively on the hub world maps.
>just unlocked the double jump? Now you can ride back to that one tower in the desert with a single combat encounter to get a missile tank
etc.

>>722686726
Metroid Prime isn't a first person shooter. Shooting things has very little to do with the core gameplay.

>>722653170
Why would i be worried, retro has never released a bad game

>>722653170
Why did anyone have any hope after they showed gameplay? It'll be okay. Nowhere near MP1 and 2 though, but I don't know why anyone expected anything close to the originals. Especially after the trailer in March.
>Samus is granted mysterious, and ancient, powers. Psychic Abilities. These powers allow Samus to operate mechanisms.... and open doors. They also allow her to control the trajectory of her beams... with the Power of her Mind.

>>722684115
Dread had crappy music and Prime 4 already mogs it a few times over in that department

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NBq-6gRJgw

>>722689871
That's cool and all but Dread rocked from a gameplay standpoint and Prime 4 is currently disappointing me.

>>722653170
Extremely

>>722653170
I don't care

>>722653170
Not worried because since they showed the motorbike my interest for the game dropped to 0

>>722659657
>deserts are mostly empty
wow, shocker

At this point, I don't give a shit. Switch was a borderline scam with a couple of high highs, but today Nintendo is absolutely borderline ruse tier vile shit. It deserves to be as shitty as it gets.

>>722691550
>gameplay?

>>722653170
Samur Aran, more like samus aran

>>722653170
The would sell more if they add the zero zuit version

>>722653170
I never played a Metroid game this is the first one for me

>>722653170
>loses armor again
Why

>>722653170
Was the bike necessary?

>>722653170
Sloppa

>>722659569
>Zelda storytelling
Lmao
And get some friends, lose, Mario Kart is great

>>722653170
It's essentially Halo 4 without the bad parts, so it will probably do fine.

>>722692398
Halo 4 in itself was bad

>>722653170
Prime 1 was amazing
Prime 2 was okay
Prime 3 was mediocre
guess 4

>>722693591
terrible

>>722653170
lol

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Reminder that Prime 4 threads are currently 1 guy talking to himself

>>722653170
I haven't liked any of the 2D metroids recently either so I had low expectations. The combat in Other M sucks, the free rotational aim rather than 8-way aim and melee counter spam of M2SR and Dread is too big a divergence from classic 2D metroids.

>>722693591
This is wrong because Echoes was the best one. And none of them were bad. However Beyond will buck that trend by being open world slop for normalfags, and it still won’t sell.

>>722653170
I coudl'n care less

>>722653170
why do so many retards think prime 4 is open world? its metroid and there will be item checks shutting you out of certain areas

Not much. I'm 46 so I don't need to be a doomer anymore and shit on things before they're released to fit in.

>>722653170
I hoping to see samus barefoot

>>722659941
They added too much
But from my perspective, they might actually be doing good
Also from what the leakers (people who leaked accurate things like the desert environment and motorcycle) say this game is fun and the demo players say this game is fun

Or maybe, I don't know, using the speed booster? Even Other M had the decency to include it for faster traversal.

>>722655561
And the paw curls again

>>722698812
This
I see something I don't like, I just ignore it
Would've liked to play prime 4 but I don't like the open world so oh well