What happened this time?
devs have been dragging their feet with DLC releases plus last update broke tomb king and lizardmen AIall evidence suggests that they're running on a skeleton crew since the hyenas debacle
>>722654519Chinabots
After a quick glance at the reviews, the devs made a youtuber quit the game. Whatever that means.
>>722654574I think it has more to do with that the majority works on the 40k game.
Update broke the game and they still haven't reverted it
>>722654519They pushed a new patch that breaks the campaign. Enemy factions won't recruit units or move under certain conditions. They revealed it's a fundamental issue with the code that will take a total rework and will delay the upcoming DLC.The actual thing that happened is that a youtuber had a crash out on stream and told his viewers to complain about it, which is why everyone is suddenly mad that the DLC they said they weren't going to buy is now going to be late.
>>722654643Is a 40k game real or have people just decided it seems likely?
Hey guys LegendOfTotalWar here I'm retired
LegendofTotalWar quit TW content creation because he got fed up with the series being shit and does not believe it has a good future, and eceleb fans are upset and blame it on CA. Sure, making shit games is their fault, but I don't think they got a duty to keep ecelebs in business.
I quit playing TW when every 1 settlement AI faction had 2~3 full stacks sitting around it and doing nothing.
>>722654708Stupid people decided it seems likely
>>722654739how about "our updates to lizardmen and tomb kings broke both of those factions, we'll fix it with the next big update that doesn't even have a release date yet OOPS lol"
>>722654739I just don't get how people couldn't mod 1/2's AI into 3. Warhammer 1 was fucking wild with chaos, vampires, wood elves, and beastmen all attacking me at the same time, and I loved it. The point of the game is to struggle against an actual threat, not steamroll. The fun ends once you "win". Unless they add more RPG mechanics then that's not going to change.
>>722654708Made up. Literally no evidence whatsoever.
>>722654708There was a leak about four years ago that correctly predicted Pharaohs and also listed a new Total War for both Warhammer 40k and Star Wars for 2026 or later.CA also announced months ago that they had a major announcement in December of this year for a 2026 release.
>>722654519AI broke completely.Also, War 3 development has been shifted to that studio in Bulgaria (or Romania or something), the guys that made Pharaoh, and they clearly aren't up to the task given they keep delaying and breaking shit.
>>722656125i wont accept this CA Sofia slander, fuck off. ever since they've been on they've been implementing a lot of great features for WH3, something that was sorely lacking in the past.the game being a shitty buggy mess goes back years. Sofia is trying to fix what the "main team" has been building with discount glue and sticks
>>722654708It's real, it was revealed to me in a dream.
>>722656293Also breaking the AI was the main team's last parting gift for WH2. Ambush battles are still broken after the last Wh2 patch that dates what, 3-4 years now?
I didn't realise LegendOfTotalWar had sucha big following. Every video is just him using the same exploits over and over while being an arrogant, grumpy twat. The only good video I've seen of his is one where some dude sent him a campaign where he had one settlement left and the following turn dozens of heros spawned in to wreck his economy.
>>722654519AI for Lizardmen and Tomb Kings is broken. They just sit in place and do nothing. That's like 11 main factions that are easy to conquer by other AIs early on and totally break the campaign. CA maintained that they'll fix it in 7.0, the next big patch/DLC. It remains constant, a patch breaks things, they're broke for few months when a next patch fixes them and breaks other things.
>>722656536everything is drama about this guy, your post included
When the fuck is this game getting cracked? I'm tired of waiting
>>722654519My favourite influencer made a video
>>722654783It seems likely cause there doesn't seem to be any other path CA could take at this point. Warhams is essentially over, their recent historical titled either underperformed or straight up flopped, so what else is there to do for a small family company with 800 employees?
>>722654684I hate e-celebs so goddamn much it's unreal.
>>722656539Is Nakai also broken?
>>722656536last year him and a couple other Total War youtubers got together and he openly admitted that he just does whatever gets him views, called his fans stupid, and said that not only do the Warhammer games suck, but 3's battles are even worse than 1's. Just said all of those things completely unprompted in front of a 100k views, kek, pretty candid for a youtuber.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLcYm2i84A
>>722654684>The actual thing that happened is that a youtuber had a crash out on stream and told his viewers to complain about it,I'm sure the reason people complain is because "a youtuber told his viewers to" and not because the game is broken, you subhuman knob-polisher
>>722657582Anon, these people literally went from>This DLC is dogshit, I will NOT be buying it to>What the fuck, the DLC is delayed? This is unacceptable.Literally, LITERALLY (as in, not figuratively) overnight, simply because of a youtuber's single comment
They broke the AI in the game and now its unplayable single player. Ignore everyone complaining about some eceleb.THE GAME IS BROKEN
>>722657454Based.
>>7226547392 fucking races are not workingStraight up not fucking working
>>722657641No, you fuckhead, people were bitching the game was broken for a while>>722657350Hey, >>722657582 applies to you as well
>>722654519They broke the AI for at least two races and made them nonfunctional. CA said they weren't going to address it until after the next major update that coincided with a DLC release.
>>722654519No TWW4 announcement
>>722657454>he openly admitted that he just does whatever gets him views... yeah? He's talked about this multiple timesIt's his fucking job.If a game isn't getting views he won't play it on stream
>>722657679seems to be working if you play the rats. but I only play eshin or skyre so I dont deal with lizards or tomb kangz regularly. by the time I get down there they're dead anyway. this is before whatever update broke shit.
CA was abandoned by historyfags. Now being abandoned by Warhammerfags.Grim.
>>722657862They had it coming. CA has been slowly but consistently fucking up the TW series since Rome 2 if not earlier. Disgusting fucking bongs
CA are so fucking incompetent, impressive really.
>>722657582Yes, that is indeed exactly what happened.
>>722658186I don't think it's incompetence but rather being understaffed.
>>722660278They blew the gpd of a small country on a game that got cancelled before release
>>722660278Their leadership is incredibly incompetent.
>>722660278Devoting hundred of millions of dollars and years of dev time on an obvious piece of shit like Hyenas, resulting in the studio being gutted and hundreds of people fired and teams shuffled around is a sign of incompetence
>>722654519This is the second time the "Totsl War community" gets awarded pic related.Honestly they only have themselves to blame.
>>722654684
>>722654519When they've changed the artstyle and cartoonified the game, it was a massive red flag that all these faggots have ignored.
>>722654708They're running out of Warhammer stuff and 40K would make bank like they're gonna move on to something and I seriously doubt they chose Star Wars, it's practically a dying IP
>>722654574>hyenas debacleQRD?
Hyenas 2 will save Creative Assembly
>>722656293>they've been implementing a lot of great features for WH3Yeah, buffing Disciplined is a great feature while each patch they release breaks the game even more. CA Sofia is a fucking disgrace that cannot deliver DLC, reworks, or even simple patches.
>>722661131yeah I stopped playing ages ago because every patch they're just breaking more shit
>>722660902They took all total war warhammer profits to make a terrible woke game that flopped
>>722660902Failed zoomerslop shooter that they put all their money in
>>722660496Hey genius they didn't pay them fucking selves, that was sega who made them do it all in the first place
Hyenas would have worked if it had actual yeen girls
I mod for the game and the AI issue where they just sit around turtling in their first settlement and hiring only t1 chaff is an issue with minor factions, but seeing what CA did, it seems the problem has extended to major factions now. The thing is that we as modders couldn't do anything to fix this without brute forcing scripts because it was a core 'feature' to make minor factions be nothing but expansion fodder for major factions. But if the issue is with CA itself, that goes to show then that whatever programmers they have now are on the level of your average TW modder now. Shit's fucked.
>>722654708one sunday morning the coffee grounds in my cup spelled 40k while i was playing total war
>>722661524Nobody understand the Warscape engine and its spaghetti code in current CA.
>>722654726retarded*
>break game AI>nobody noticed it while testing patchheh, testing.
>>722661775They have one single guy in charge of patching and he just runs the code through chatGPT.
>>722660902money laundering scheme. I refuse te believe anyone can be that incompetent and out of touch.
>>722661775Welcome to the modern corporate world. We need this patch done yesterday so fuck quality assurance.
>>722661775>testingexactly. I assume CA devs are like us programmers who just change values on a table, boot up the game for a bit, check for a few turns if there's any crashes and if everything looks like what they're supposed to do at a glance, then publish the mod in a hurry. Cue several dozen comments about bugs.But the difference being that modders aren't paid to bug check their shit.If CA is doing a similar shitty job where QA/QC testing is non existent and you just tweak numbers and still get paid by big daddy SEGA, I sure would fucking love to apply.
>>722654684You forgot the part where the upcoming DLC was already delayed significantly and is now being delayed again. It has been 10 months since the last DLC released.
>>722654909>TW: 40k>TW: SWi hate how easily susceptible i am to this shit
>>722661775I don't know, I've heard that it was working during beta and somehow broke on the live client. Haven't played the beta myself because fuck this shit, I'm not getting payed to test the game for them.
>>722662062Star Wars doesn't translate well into TW. Not enough factions with big enough armies.
>>722662134>
>>722661995It's crazy. The last DLC was that shit dlc about greenskins and chaos right? When did that come out? Last november or something? The slaanesh and helf dlc shouldn't take too long considering it's probably just dozen new units or so. Especially since they completely gave up on new story campaigns in WH3.
>>722661415no hyenas was all CA, Sega used to be very hands-off with them until their colossal fuck up
>>722662062>>TW: 40kengine already shits itself with Warhammer 3, trying to fit completely different style of war into it will break the game on fundamental level
>>722662231for me, its
>>722654574That sounds like such a massive fuckup. Why don't they roll it back to the last functioning version and sit on the update till it's actually ready?
>>722661307>>722661332>>722661904Thank you.
>>722662231>two (2) whole factionsSo like he said, not enough factions with big enough armies. Do you know how awful a TW game with only two factions on the map would be?>>722662601They literally don't care and/or don't have enough people to care. If they gave a shit this probably wouldn't have happened in the first place.
>>722662534I can hear the sound effects decades later, when I see screenshots of the game.
noo nigga what iz you dooiinhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1142710/view/519725729918748466
>>722662670At a minimum you could have 4, as shown with games like battlefront 2 where left over droids/clones fight the empire and so on. Even in empire at war they added a third OC faction.It's mostly just a question of if disney would let them use the legacy stuff, because there are a ton of random factions across all of that.
>>722662840>These issues have been compounded by changes that we made to the different resources that are required to recruit units by the Lizardmen and Tomb Kings>make a specific change that you know impacts Lizardmen and Tomb Kings>neglect to actually test when the CPU plays those factions
>>722662518Next one will be made with UE5 anyway.
>>722662980ohnononono, I hope people will enjoy their silky smooth 20 fps
>>722662960>>722662840Ayylmao. Even modders for years know that the AI doesnt interact with faction mechanics and can only recruit stuff based on basic building templates and what is available on the recruitment pool. This is why with TK or LM you never ever saw them with blessed units or Queen Bess for VCoast. These devs have got to be new if they aren't aware of this.
CA Sofia should just become the main devs at this point, nuke England
>>722661131Sofia did well enough with Troy while warhams 3 had a plethora of problems from the start. Overall I am more inclined to believe the main team created a collection of fuck ups, called it a day and left it all for Sofia to deal with.
>>722654726>>722654739He's the whiniest man on the planet I think.
>>722654630The default settings for review score curates every score you see to people with your same location (not language)You have to go out of your way to turn on all china reviewbomb settings
>>722662256It released early December, the next DLC we are still waiting on was announced at the end of March
>>722654726>>722654739Didn't legend have cancer?
>>722661904Japanese corpo boomers are easily out of touch enough.
>>722662980Might as well at this point. Warscape is bloody fucking mess of an engine already so we can't expect anything from that direction
>>722661775CA hasn't playtested a game in their lives
>>722660862Honestly I think the best way to revive star wars would be through FUN video games and disney might be desperate enough to reach out to devs to try it out, and it's not like there's going to be a dev that says no to that.
>>722654519Youtube Man told people to care about Lizardmen, and so they did
>>722663025So nothing changes from the Warscape engine?
>>722660725The tw: warhammer 1 and 2 were pretty good. Wish they made another historical type game but I dont think that will happen again. I just want total war Africa and play as jungle warriors fighting insanely brutal bush wars. Idc what time period. No wakanada shit pls, pure historical.
>it is an honor to be joined by men. And not faggot ass, corn holing cocksuckers who Cheating the KI dodge enemy range dmg with your Lord.HE SHOULD FUCKIN DIE!
>>722663604>devs are trying to control the narritive by making it more difficult to see the reactions of people all over the worldYeah, I'm sure they only did that for purely good reasons.
>>722654739this youtuber tantrum shit is getting old fast this is like the 3rd live service game this month that this same thing has happened
>>722665367Streamers or not, good it's getting more out there in people's eyes and ears.
>>722664661I don't think there is competent dev left to make any kind of fun game. Besides that Yidney still hasn't stopped fucking up SW, so fat chance.
>>722666414First part is you being jaded, second is real though
>>722662231And how many factions did it have?
Yeah I'll wait to play TW3 until they're completely done updating it. Not fucking with this mess.
>>722666894Well now is your time, because they've already pulled the plug on any meaningful support.
>>722666512>jadedReally? I mean just look at the absolute state of the industry these days and tell me where one can find a sufficient quantity of competence.
>Reddit has to be told that they can leave a negative review because before they did nothingThe absolute state>No mass positive review spam "fight the haters!" campaign to drown out a legitimate issueCould be much worse
>>722654574>last update broke tomb king and lizardmen AIAfaik that issue has been around for even longer than that and was already know but never fixed
>>722662850Sw has a shit ton of minor factions, tusken raiders, jawas, wookies, trandoshans, rakata, yuuzhan vong, pikes/black sun, unfortunately gungans have the most developed army and would fit very well into a total war gameThe empire would have to be weakened though cause it's too fuckin big
>>722661131>CA Sofia is a fucking disgrace that cannot deliver DLC, reworks, or even simple patches.Sofia is the only part of CA that can release anyhting worthwhile. There is a reason why the best parts of Rome 2, may it forever be cursed, are Sofia's work.The issue is that TWW3 at its core is a game from 2012 which constantly got stuff grafted on to it. The tech debt that the game has acquired is insane.
>>722654739>>722665367Legend quit?that's not good for them.most of their free marketing on youtube before the memelord Tariff came about was from Legend, who did a bunch of community driven stuff to help explain how to play the games to people and solve "stuck" saved games to make unwinnable battles winnable for inexperienced players.even now if I wanted to get better at playing a faction I would turn to his videos because he was good at playing and explaining.
>>722660902Anons are literally underselling it, much like the gameIT NEVER CAME OUT, YEARS OF DEV TIME WASTED BTW
>>722663247given how the industry encourages devs to rotate companies every three years they could be new.
>>722666894That logic doesn't apply when each consecutive update fucks the game up more than the previous one.
>>722666838Star wars has the potential for a fuckton of factions, especially if they are allowed to use legacy stuff.
>>722666414>>722667351half of the problem is that the industry got fucked up by the likes of ubisoft and blizzard underpaying and overworking their devs who stayed loyal, which became a trend.If you go into game development, you basically are told even while still in college that in order to secure proper pay raises you NEED to quit your job and get a new one every three years with a better resume.Game development takes longer than 3 years, so basically companies don't get to have many dedicated people who stay and properly LEARN the stuff they are working on or how to work together with a set of the same peers more effectively over time.
Does SFO fix Warhammer 3Also how do I get gud (as Bretonnia specifically)
>>722668630You must understand, there are like 3 bulgarian guys (who never worked on TWWH before) behind all updates and upcoming dlcs. Tbh they're doing pretty good job, at least they attempt to touch issues which CA with their mythical 2 teams failed to see.
>>722660902WELCOME TO THE ACK
>>722668804not in its wars.starwars has always been about two sides in their wars.the entire point of the total war games is that there are a bunch of factions in it for themselves and there is always potential for chaotic stuff far in excess of 2 sides.its been>sith side vs jedi sideor>sith side vs jedi but also secretly sith sideor>giant empire sith side vs small resistance and also jedi sideor>entire galaxy vs OP vongthe only time there are a bunch of factions is when they are all stuck fighting against one big one.
>people need to get told that if they want things to change, they have to vote with their wallets and leave behind negative reviews on relevant sales platformsAm I just a 2000 IQ individual since I knew this for what seems like forever? It's how literally every single company works.Or are these people really THIS retarded?
>>722668893>Does SFO fix Warhammer 3I think it makes the game more fun, but it doesn't fundamentally fix its core problems (buggy, broken, shit sieges, shit AI).
>>722668893SFO is bloat. Play it only if you are well familiar with the game. Practice battles on skirmish and campaign economy by starting on normal or easy. Battle difficulty is another option you can change so you can play in normal campaign difficulty but with hard or very hard battle difficulty.
>>722668893It makes it playable and SFO does something vanilla game can't, you've a real menu where you can adjust gameplay to your liking. Bretonnia? A lot of cycle charging (micro management).
The moment I saw they were STILL trying to fix Sieges I knew this update would bomb. Just give us the option to disable settlement and siege battles, it is THAT simple, and stop wasting resources fixing what's ultimately unfixable due to talent drain.
>>722668958I do understand. Sofia is the only part of that small family company I don't despise. Instead I pity them
>>722669201>bloatIt gives mechanics to lords who had none before and a unit here and there, if you call it bloated then you should see radious mod.
>>722669108Battlefront 2 had clones vs empire and droids vs empire. Plus idk where you people get the idea that only the stuff shown in the movies is allowed. 20 years ago star wars games gave no fucks on if they fit in with the films or not, they just made what was fun.
>>722654519Never played any goyhammer slop desu, medieval 3 when?
>>722669247Truth is that what they needed to do to fix sieges was just completely fucking rework them from the ground up. True destructibility would be a minimum. And letting us put cannons and weapons teams on walls...Then, to make it actually good, there should have been proper race unique maps, and race unique siege mechanics.
>>722657454And he was 100% correct.
>>722669430You might be referring to WH1 SFO because every since they rebranded as Grimhammer in WH2/3, SFO has been as bad as Radious. It also changes unit balance where it might as well not be the same game anymore. If you are learning how to play total war, it is definitely not a good option since it teaches you wrong lessons i.e. elite units that can just tank half an entire army because it's "lore friendly".
>>722669439>sith side vs jedi but also secretly sith sideor>giant empire sith side vs small resistance and also jedi sideare you retarded or something?
>>722669108That would be really fun if the rebel alliance played kinda like the empire from Warhammer and it was kinda a faction soup, like the troop makeup depends on who you score alliances with and Incorporate into your faction
>>722669439Lucas era gave lots of freedom with it's tiered canon so devs didn't have to care that much.Disney era is more authoritarian where every piece of media has to be equally canon no matter how retarded it is.
>>722654519Fixing some things has been a series staple since WH1 basically, it's impressive. The games management is absolutely dogshit and only ever looks 1 step ahead and has to constantly backtrack and fix something that was poorly implimented from the start
I don't give a shit about eceleb drama but if something positive came out of it for once I'll be glad. TWWH3 is nearly unplayable for everyone smarter than a mouth breather.
>>722670293Fixing some things and breaking others i mean
>>722669235>A lot of cycle charging (micro management).Yuuuuuuuck. I just want to play Repanse...Empire then...?
>>722669616>bad as radiousHow many mod parts radious has and how many units do they (radious team) add to the game? Comparing these two is like comparing day to night.But both are overhauls therefore they massively impact on vanilla game.>If you are learning how to play total war, it is definitely not a good option. It is not, that is true, there are way too many mechanics for someone new, but when it comes to *elite units* well, I can counter pretty much anything effectively in SFO, but that is just my experience with this mod.
>>722670804Empire is pretty much straightforward, your melee units are... weaker than in most other factions (but they keep line just fine (unlike Bretonnia peasants)). obviously you rely on artillery (no. 1), magic and handguns (these need proper positioning). They also have pretty strong calvary, you can charge into enemy archers and leave them be without worrying about their fate.
>>722654726>>722654739What about heir of carthage and prince of macedon? are those gays stil laround?
>>722654684asmon army im doing my part!!!WE DO NOT FORGIVE EXPECT US
>>722670130anon you just dont have the factions to fight/ally with.starwars writing, even during legends with all of that creativity, never went that far.the rebels would have the unaffiliated humans, bothans, correllian systems, mon calamari, smugglers, etc sure.but they dont openly fight eachother. only the bothans even do subversive shit.what other factions do you have?the imperial remnants and the hutts.star wars is much more about a big war with two sides, while total war games are about a much more confusing mess.
>>722673762You can easily do great hyperspace total war with empire alone by treating every major sith as separate entity like they did with three kingdoms.
>>722654574I don't get how you can run your company into the ground and just shrug. How are these retards still in business? With the 'Welcome to the- ACK!' debacle I thought Sega would be bringing the boot down, but these retards are STILL taking ages to put out updates that end up breaking shit.
>>722674716They'd still be same faction, just like Archaon and Kholek.
>>722673762I mean It would have to be its own seperate timeline but there's lots of factions to buff up the rebels, separatist holdouts, ewoks, clone/jedi remnants, any alien faction. Plus from the andor show(I forgot how anons feel about that one) showed the rebels being disorganized and untrusting of eachother
>>722654519Bought 3k while I'm waiting for the warhammer team to get their shit together.What the fuck is this interface? How do I git gud at 3k?
>>722654519You could try reading some of these reviews
>>722660902Sega wanted a live service game and tasked CA to make it, the result was Hyenas which was an unfun and obnoxious extraction shooter in space which had been criticized so heavily during its Alpha and Beta tests that it was canned entirely leading to Sega gutting CA to make up some of the losses of the development
>>722662670>So like he said, not enough factions with big enough armies. Do you know how awful a TW game with only two factions on the map would be?That's literally Empire at War and it worked fine. Diplomacy was done at a planetary level rather than a faction level.
>>722675195>How do I git gud at 3k?get more foodtrain blue generalsdon't trust Cao Cao
>>722654519They made a Faustian bargain by adopting the live-service model and now the devil has come to take what he is owed.
>>722654519AI retardation. It was brewing in the background until it grew to the point that in 6.3. the Tomb Kings and Lizardmen AIs after their quality of life improvements got lobotomized.There is a Mammoth in the Chieftain's Hall and the Norscans working at CA can't ignore the problem anymore.Probably also a reason to delay further Tides of Torment.
>>722656419>Ambush battles are still brokenThey are? How so?
>>722678334the AI doesnt move its units if you ambush them, thanks CA
>>722669247They'll never be able to fix sieges because the feedback they get are all from armchair game design redditors who think they want epic Helms Deep defensive sieges despite the fact that you are the attacker 20x as often as defender. I also just gave up and play with this mod every time now.
>>722678540Oh wow. I guess I somehow just never ambushed anyone when i played the last few times? Unless some random mod fixes it.
>>722677997Doesn't help that they switched teams.The new team now not only has to get familiar with the mess that the game is but also wrangle the mess of a code that they inherited into something workable.
>>722679914What a mess...
>>722679914Sofia have been the ones managing the game since it came out. But yes clearly the main team has taken a significant amount of support off of it to work on whatever they are doing
>>722654574>all evidence suggests that they're running on a skeleton crewWell yeah, tomb kings are skeletons, what else are their crew gonna be?
>>722665367i'm at the point now where "our game made an annoying eceleb seethe" is a selling point
>>722654519Say. His. Name.
>>722682728wtf I'm buying all the DLC now
>>722682728What?
>>722654519Big e-celeb told people to reviewbomb the game because he's mad at the company. He then retired right after kek.
>>722682938Just an hour before Charlies death, CA tweeted out>Man, that Kirk guy is such a whiny chud, I hope someone does something about it
>>722660902
>>722660862on the one hand i cant imagine wh40k working remotely like it should with the current TW engineon the other CA also made Alien: Isolation so when they lock in a dozen gigafan autist fans of a franchise as lead devs they can probably do miracles and even make a new engine just to make Warham 40K: TW a thing
>>722675180>ewoksare confined to one planet>jedi remnantsindividual heroes at BEST>clone remnantscongrats you have an elite unit... thats not a faction>muh andor showshitty slop compared to the faction turmoil the bothans were pulling in legends.NONE of it resulting in interfaction warfare.>>722674716>hyperspace total waroh great its TWO Factions versus eachother again.retard.
>people think CA is making a 40k game>meanwhile DOW 4 is around the cornercan't wait for both of these games be absolute dogshit
>>722668472>free marketingIts more than that, Legend was always the one youtuber who called them out on bullshit and made people rise to action because literally everybody else was bought by CA into complacency because unlike Legend they didn't have any other income other than leeching off of Total War news and hype.With the loss of Legend, CA is now free to do nothing but Shadows of Change and leaving the AI broken for year(this bug has existed for over two years now) and there is nobody left with the ability to make them answer for it. Total War as a franchise will legitimately never see quality ever again because nobody will hold CA accountable for the lack of it.
>>722654519i don't care
>Total war warhammer succeeded>genre that completely fits in gameplay of total war>which is why it was picked>absolute morons now start to shoehorn every single possible strategy into total war because "fantasy succeeded"
>>722690529>CA managed to produce two games with barely functioning regimental line infantry combat so it makes sense their next project will be based on property with tons of small unit cover shooting
>>722654708Simply assumed based on them both beig called warhammer
>>722691423>relic is also retarded and hasn't made anything good in two decadesTruly a match made in hell
>>722654909Things that far out are just propsed ideas, not set
>>722654708It's a complete fabrication perpetuated by Total Warhammer youtubers who insist on it being real because they know that they'll lose their entire viewership once Total Warhammer is no longer the new hot thing.
>>722691423twh40k will reskinned skaven fighting reskined warriors of chaos, all vehicles will be reskined steam tanks and all flying vehicles will be reskinned thunder barages, there will be no cover
>>722662134If you only care about Disneyshit, yeah.
>>722687398Jesus fuck, he's just a youtuber, nobody gives a fuck about him that's also why he finally fucked off and he'll be back for more money once CA drops next history/warhammer game. Plus he got into some weird relation with Volound who is just living, shitting and pissing cancer and I don't care whether CA had a reason to strike him dawn (they did not), the internet would be better off without him.
Everytime I feel like I wanna get into this game some shit pops up that turns me offWhen am I supposed to start playing?
>>722692176look, a CA cocksucker appeared
>>722691724relic isnt making dow 4
>>722692042>reskinnedI don't think it will be that easy if the rumours are true and CA worked on new engine (not updated version of old one) it is very unlikely
>>722687398>Legend was always the one youtuber who called them out on bullshitLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLHe turned into the biggest shill ever when TWW3 came out and only changed his stance when people rightfully gave him shit for having become a paid marketer. The man has zero integrity.
>>722692554CA is far too incompetent to make new engine
>>722692603>make engineLeaks said it'd be UE5.
>>722692362No sister. I'm just not giving a fuck about random youtubers especially when they're influenced by cancer such as volound.
>>722692659>UE5
>>722692538Huh, didn't know that. The new dev's track record doesn't look too promising though
>>722657741works on my tomb kings campaign
>>722692759>The new dev's track record doesn't look too promising thoughyeah....
>>722682728>6 people found this review funnykek
>>722692659I'd be interested to see if swapping engines makes them finally able to fix the janky ranged unit targeting. >people won't shoot unless they see center mass>entire formation has to turn before they start shootingIts frustrating trying to shoot through holes in a siege wall, or making a unit 180 to fire at something and some are colliding thus not turning fast and 90% of the unit is just not doing shit cause they are waiting for the last ones to enter formation
>>722693185>CA can't make it work with engine designed for formation fighting>he thinks by switching engine to one NOT designed for it things will somehow improve
>>722693185That's a warhammer thing. Line infantry worked just fine in Fall of the Samurai.
>>722692759Iron Harvest is actually pretty good, though it it isn't AoE2 or Starcraft so RTSfags hate it
>>722692759>75%So its good, right? Anyway, we'll see once they release it, obviously they have more resources and higher budget for DoW4 but there are always retards who make terrible decisions and they might just DoW3'ed it or even worse, they can turn it into Stormgate 2.>>722692659I doubt it, you can't make strategic game with this engine... well you can but again nobody wants another Stormgate, which used UE and their own shitty engine for RTS related actions such as pathfinding
>>722693523>you can't make strategic game with this engineYou can't do anything but corridor shooters with it yet people keep doing it anyway.
>>722681371Only after Pharaoh Dynasties which was only around 1 year ago. Not saying that it is little time but isn't that much.
>>722662231I HOPE THERE'S A CANTINA OVER THERE
>>722693613Cause its easy, accessible and you don't have to pay six figures yearly to single programmer you pay instead few thousands to wanna be artist and army of jeets.These are sad times we live in.
