Why do elves always think they're better than everyone?
Anti-elf falseflagging goon thread.
>>722658396Damn brats
Because they are. Humans had to create flaws for them to make themselves feel better over the fact that they're not elves.
>>722658396Because they are lorewise? >first empires on Tamriel>Tamrielic itself (lingua franca of the empire) is based on the speech and writing of High Elvish and Ayleidoon>invented like half the schools of magic on their own>the "Imperial City" is based on the original structure of the Ayleids and their White-Gold Tower>etcOoga booga/knife-ear shitposting aside, Mer are AT LEAST as important as Humans in the setting's history, if not more. Which is a welcoming addition since in so many fantasy settings humanity is front and center everywhere in importance and not just from a narrative pov. In TES elves clearly greatly influence the world as well.
Human bros.. it's over...
>>722658396You need a frog?
>>722658396Because they are? Just look at them, no species can compete.
>>722658396What kinda question even is that, of course we're better
>>722658947This. It also makes me sad that the Snow Elves never took hold of Skyrim and created a vast empire like the Dwemer or other mer races did. They really got fucked hard.
>>722659108>me Johnny Human on the left trying my best to hide my erection from the Druchii stacy
>>722659353nobody in elder scrolls has had it worse than the orcs
>>722659353Driven underground by ATMORAN BVLLS and then force-fed shrooms by their mer friends which turned them into blind troglodytes
Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.Elves are terrific. They beget terror.The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.No one ever said elves are nice.Elves are bad.
>>722658396>entire history of tamriel is a human getting pissed and genociding them
>>722659645bad-ass that is!
CON > DEX
>>722659353True. If Orsimer were/are the top candidates for shit out of luck (literally in their case), the Snow Elves take 2nd place easily. And I love what we know about their culture. The Forgotten Vale and the whole path to the Sanctum journey is one of the best things about Skyrim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IHZQ_YAvy8
>>722658396Wtf is with the Elf on the right? She looks like a furry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMLIGP4y8I
>>722658396now imagine it being white european/ americans and various africans/ arabs/ indians and you have your answer
>>722658947Just because some elves thousands of years ago accomplished something doesn't give you, an elf in the present, the reason to feel superior. It's like an American person being proud that his forefathers fought off the British.
>>722659236YWNBAE
>>722659647Are you referring to the divine gay robot from the future or to the Breton warlord pretender that had to use a deus ex machina device to bring them into submission. Both didn't genocide them though.Though you could argue that since the Ayleid survivors got absorbed from other mer populations, their culture was more or less erased. That's a form of genocide-lite I guess.
>>722660561But thats exactly how real life works? People are smug because their ancestors build great works of science and architecture and some browns ancestors lived in mud huts no different than the ones they got today. Its the most logical thing for elves to feel superior. Its just that now the elves are the smug europeans and we as humans are in the role of the brownoids.
>>722660561Tamriel was promised to the altmer 3000 years ago
>>722660770sorryholocausted
>>722660770>AyeleidsI wonder why they were so into torture and violence specificallyyeah the world of elder scrolls is a violent one but those guys were fucked up even considering that standard
>>722658396Because we are
W-what's wrong with my weapon? *wield with malicious intent*
>>722661005post ears
>>722659647Getting pissed and genociding them after being enslaved, tortured and raped by elves.Fixed that for you.
>>722660979Dunmer are bug-eating Dadera-worshippers who unironically have government backed assassination guilds. The Altmer are inbred eugenisists who want to go back to a time where they essentially didn't exist. The Dwemer tortured the Falmer so hard they ceased to have the same type of fucking soul as the rest of man and mer.
>>722661146i didn't mean it as a bad thingtaking the victim route always makes said vitctim look like a bitch, which is what the elves do and henceforth are
>>722658578>>722658947These anons are right - elves with just the advantage of immortality/super longevity (not mentioning any other things like magic affinity or whatever) would conquer and rule everything in any world they find themselves in. Authors, starting with Tolkiien, had to give them some severe drawbacks so everyone else can have at least a chance.
>>722661005>>722661140>post earsBut only if you are a cute elf girl, not elf guy
>>722661172The Altmer don't dedicate their time to what makes humans scream the most or feel the most pain. They don't have "flesh gardens" or turn people's corpses into works of "art".
>>722661335Right
>>722661367Look at this fucking CHAD. No wonder why N*rds and Imp*rials are so intimidated by them.
>>722661275Elves have always been frail weaklings.
>>722660979The thing you have to understand about the Ayleids, is that they were the TES equivalent of the Greeks/Sumerians/Etruscans. Meaning there was never a formal unified Ayleid empire. There were many city-states and petty kingdoms. Some of those kingdoms worshipped Aedra and other worshipped Daedra. Some even worshipped the particularily nasty Daedra like Molag Bal or Namira. My guess is that those were the Ayleids that did all that "flesh-garden" shit. An Aedra-worshipping Ayleid would never pull shit like this. Neither I think a Meridian one.It wouldn't make sense.Plus, in TES lore you always have to take into a small account the "unreliable narrator" device. There are many in-game books written in a way as a biased in-universe person would write it. Propaganda does exist in the setting. Not saying it didn't happen, just take this also into account.
>you are sheltering talos worshippers, are you not?
>>722661742I am Talos
>>722658396Needs correction
>>722658396What's bratty elf pussy like?
>>722661367All of those things are just a big "yet". Elves still live in a man-dominated world. When men rule the world, there is peace and prosperity for everyone, and all are treated as equals. When mer rule the world, they enslave everybody who isn't them, rape non-stop, torture people for fun and carry out genocides. All mer are a danger to the stability of the world, sometimes very literally when they start building shit like the numidium or conspiring to tear down the divine towers.
>>722661696>that one book in skyrim about the history of dunmer that tries to downplay their cultural practices like ghost gates
elves are simply superior
>>722658396In Elder Scrolls (and most other settings), they objectively are. Like they literally are a master race, not some meme. Taller, healthier, longer lived, better at magic, ancient cultural achievements that far surpasses that of humans
Show this to an elf to find out what they really think about you.
>>722662952>TallerThis isn't actually healthy.>long-livedtheir only real advantage but they don't breed enough to make this remarkable>better at magicHahahahaha! No.>Ancient Cultural AchievementsYou will never be a god
>>722662952I'd agree if it wasn't obvious that all elves are predisposed to schizophrenia or other mental illnesses and didn't have a crippling addiction to jobbing.
>>722658396they wont be laughing when they're sex slaves sold to the highest bidder
>>722659236damn I thought this was gonna be kratos for some reason
>>722659236>we're better>open spoiler>not kratoscmon
>>722663587we must be better mer
I just like how eternally butthurt at Lorkhan they are.
>>722663861it's really funny when you consider everything exists in the first place because of Lorkhan to begin with
>>722663861
>>722659060You can't make half-breeds in TES retards, the race of the children is determined by the mother.
>>722658396Still have no idea what caused the sudden shift from elf hatred to elf simps in recent years. Basically every game setting I’ve seen has evil ass elves in some way, a lot of them usually pretty genocidal towards humans to. Is it just because of cutesy anime girl elves like Frieren?
>>722664613someone say frieren
Because they are jews
>>722664558What about Bretons?
>>722658396Because they live for hundreds or thousands of years, because they have their shit together, because typically live in a utopia generally associated to them under normal circumstances. They're literally designed to be better than us by fantasy writers and they know it.
>>722664704>because they are [based]I agree
>>722664792anon forgot about them
>>722664613Reputation of elves was salvaged by "elf, Japan" and by it turning out that normalfags who started flooding into D&D due to Critical Role and Baldur's Gate 3 actually really love elves.
>Altmer are literally super evil and insane and want to unravel existence and kill everybody>Bosmer are feral illiterate cannibals>Dunmer are haughty bug herding jews that indulge in slavery and incest the minute Imperial eyes aren't on themI sorta feel like the Dunmer are the best of the lot
>>722664792They are an exception. Basically, ancient humans and High Elves inbred for thousands of years, and that produced the first Bretons. So yeah it is possible to create half-breeds in TES, but it takes a long time.
today i will remind them
>>722665093your wall of cope is old hat noldorfag nobody cares
>>722664613Because, WH40K HFY newfag, before the "elf hatred" by edgy faggots of your kind there were "elf simps" that were also edgy faggots but of a different kind. Aka back when DnD's elves were more viable to play than humans so everybody played them, Drizzt and Drow were THE SHIT and every Timmy tried to name his Night Elf Hunter in WoW a variation of Legolas.It all comes in circles. So does people's opinion about elves in fiction. Nowadays the "knife-ear" and Pelinal jokes have become stale enough that people are starting to move on.Besides, this kind of elf hateposting happens mainly on a few fantasy franchises like Warhammer (especially 40K) and TES.
>words words wordsno, wanting to have sex with pointy eared girls is not white genocide
>>722665093Nah, modern elves are all Jews that deserve hatred and death. Nip elves are just goon bait, and Tolkiens elves were just Aasimar with pointy ears because he loved trees and god so he made his super speshul oc race that also loved trees and god.
>>722664558>>722665065this was retconned
Dwarves are total reddit.In my bi-directional brain, this means 4chan must be elf zone.
>>722664613This is why we can't have fun banter anymore, you retards take everything at face value thinking anyone can have real hate for imaginary races.
>>722665760when
>>722665823explain
>>722664527So lorkhan is just the demiurge, got it
>>722664613I've always been a Deedlit man
>>722664948Funny part is, D&D elves are just as fucked up, if not more so, than elder scrolls elves.
Slam dunk a mon-keigh baby into a trash can
>>722665760into whatare bretons just humans, no mer involved
>>722664527What the fuck was the whole deal with Trinimac and Boethia anyway? Was Trinimac lying and deceiving the elves while being a Daedra the whole time? Or did Boethia really devour and corrupt what was left of Trinimac?
>>722661275Elves' disadvantage in Tolkien is being immortal...
>>722665823>Dwarves are total redditSay that to my face fucker not online and see what happens.
>>722658396they are
>>722665823hell yeah motherfucker
>>722664613>Still have no idea what caused the sudden shift from elf hatredThat was never a thing, dumbfuck.
>all points in con, strength>specialization in sexo will my character make it in the fantasy world?
>>722658396They don't shave down there. This is a good thing.
>>722666735Just don't play D&D. It would be perfectly viable character in rules of Fantasy Trip, for example.
>>722665236Honestly don’t mind elves in general, it’s more so that a lot of faggots tend to ignore their flaws. I’ll take Elder scrolls high functioning sociopaths over Tolkien angels any day of the week.
>>722664704incorrect
>>722666428We have no idea. We don't even know the timeline of events. In one telling, Veloth was a reactionary preacher who was railing against the centralization of Aldmeris's ancestor worship. He thought that the worship of only Aldmeri kings was denying the divinity inherent in all mer, and when he chose to leave Aldmeris with his followers, Trinimac barred his way, and was devoured by Boethiah, who spoke the Tri-angled Truth to Veloth. In another, Veloth was deceived by Boethiah and then became a preacher, and was exiled from Aldmeris. King Gortwog believed that Malacath was a demonic creation of Boethiah who kept the "real" Trinimac imprisoned, and that Malacath was nothing but a deceiver who attempts to keep the orcs spurned, ostracized, and under his control.
>>722667478You already posted this and we didn't read it then either.
>>722666553god I love rubbable elf ears
>>722658396They have naturally selected brat genes that promotes breeding through brat punishment.
>>722664948Elves deserved death."elves, Japan" owe me sex.
>>722660417I MUST nibble her ears sexually.
>>722663696jej
>>722666428Best way to understand myths in TES is that they are generally a kind of metaphor.Trinimac is the strong war god of the elves and vanquisher of Lorkhan, he represents ancient elven power at is zenith, when they were all united as one. He is invincible in battle but he is defeated by the clever youth boethiah through deceit who then begins preaching under the guise of Trinimac and spat on everything Trinimac once stood for, inspiring the Velothi exodus.Reading between the lines you can kind of get a better understanding of what the Velothi exodus actually was and its implications for the Dunmer and Altmer. The Velothi movement likely began as a hidden insurrection of discontented youth among the Altmer who waited for the most advantageous opportunity to strike at their perceived oppressors and spawned an entire dissident movement that was apparently such a traumatic blow to the Elven society that Trinimac, their “strong god,” was destroyed and has never been able to recover his former glory since.
>>722666026Deedlit?When Pirotess is right there?
>>722666026>Deedlitthis elf has caused permanent changes to the japanese male psyche
>>722668963elves are so powerful
>>722668682Trinimac is real though. Malacath exists
>>722669312Elf thighs erotic
>>722663057>filthy human, you have rope, what are you waiting for?>I'm here, ready>Show me what a filthy beast you are
>>722668963Even the Shadow over Mystara elf Lucia is just Deedlit.
>>722669491Forgot the picture.
>>722664527Is Elder scrolls lore just some cheap copied version of Gnosticism ?
>>722664613Most people don't even know Warhammer nowadays so I can see why they are more appreciable of elves, instead of realising they are slaves to their sexual deviancy to the point where it is destroying the universe.
>>722665093I think white people push this shit the most with warhammer, so this post is nonsense.
>fantasy race specifically written to be pretentious>"why are they so pretentious?"The inferiority complex you feel is quite literally the answer the writer WANTS you to experience.
There's a reason why beings are mad about elves, including other elves.
>>722668824Piro mating press
>>722658396>tallest player race>heights are set by .setscale>high elves have the biggest tits and dicks
>>722658396because they fucking are, you fucking Humans
>>722665093"white people are tree huggers obsessed with nature"Stopped reading there. For this comparison to work there'd have to be many factions of elves with different ideals clashing, and at least on of those factions is obsessed with science and industry.
>>722659060>manlet's impotent rage because he didn't invent gunpowder like he likes to tell everyone
Dark elf women + white hair >>>
>>722669751This is why white people have got nothing on elves. White people are generally pathetic and human feeling. Elves transcend that to the point of complete obnoxiousness and an inability to sympathise with other races.Oh wait, white people are generally like that too nowadays.
>>722669901>"white people are tree huggers obsessed with nature"White people are obsessed with industry and purging xenos or themselves. They're more like intelligent orcs or africans.
elf thread?
>>722669963Human's greatest strengths is their handicaps of short lives and limited senses, it's more challenging and can reach greater heights easily by overcoming these limitabilities
>>722670132>limitabilities
>>722668824>>722669789Pirotess was my first character I made in a MUD then roleplayed sex with at the age of 15 when I didn't know what sex was and just made it up as I went
>>722670045They're just so hate-fuckable. Like they're begging for it. White people are fucking pathetic chimps in comparison.If anything, they're more like nips.
>>722670639Why do you keep mentioning white people specifically? Is this some autistic fixation of yours?
>>722670561Based and hopefully not red pilled
>>722670745Elves are obsessed with and mald over humans
>>722670745Absolutely. The parallels are obvious and funny.
A little girl (a niece) said I had elf ears once. Never have I seethed more than that moment.She's definitely my niece given that statement though. kek
dwarflets mad the thread
I'm posting it again
>>722668824>>722669312everyone deserves a deedlit and pirotess wife duo
>>722671364May we all be so blessed
>>722661910what does that mean?
can elves be redheaded or should they be blonde?
>>722671354I don't get it.
>>722672023based on another comic where the author realizes they were just a moody little shit and nobody was ruining her childhoodbut now its about elf racism
>>722671354This sums them up too well.Why do we like psychopathic elves so much?
>>722668312That's a fairy.
They look down on us
>>722671912Blonde or white normally.But I like red or pale purple.
>>722659353They could of had a pretty good hidden Empire if the Dwemer didn't force feed them blinding shrooms just for the fuck of it. Seriously, the Dwemer just zero-summing is a mercy compared to what they deserved to happen to them.Fuck the Dwemer.
>>722658396>Some Helf thott talked shit to me at the college>FUS RO DAH her ass off the broken bridge
>>722672257In Australia, all white people are like that red head only they're secretly part black themselves.
>LodosstardsNow that's when you know you're dealing with the mentally impaired.610.
>>722666153>Ends the future of their entire craftworld because their dumb vision quest said so.Farseers everybody!
>>722672595>get high>muh vision>whole world destroyedstoners, everyone
>>722658396>Fund their little clothing store>Now both sisters suck my Breton BVLL cock on the regular
>>722671912i like the redhead elf with freckles all over in bg3
>>722672257I think they deserve a public embarrassment or two because of it.
>>722672651To be fair, that's probably what happened during their fall. Some artisan smoked bad crystal kush and had the worst psychic trip known to all. And then shared it with everyone else like a retard.
>>722672837
>>722672595>Ends the future of their entire craftworldThey keep fighting on even in their fucked up multi-craftworld, just another reason to like them. No one else in 40k has as much Will and optimism.
>>722659353>watched their brothers from across the way go from Elderwood to Atmora in real time from a bunch of hopped up snownigs genociding them>continue to watch boatloads of these fuckers wash over through the Sea of Ghosts to land on your shores>try to snipe them out for stumbling upon the eye of a turncoat god who tore ass through reality trying to get away from being calcified into the world like Lorkhan and co>end up getting the Mongolian royal treatment with holes and stone totems bearing the faces of hostile deities TES prehistory is the gift that just keeps on giving.
>>722673056>will and optimism>implying
>>722673056>Continues to fuck up and learn nothing from their mistakesYeah, sounds like the Eldar. Then again, that sounds like pretty much everyone in 40Gay.>>722672973Not my fault Eldar Seth Rogen doomed everyone.
>>722669423I didn’t necessarily say he wasn’t, but this is delving into the abstract shit where things become kind of hard to place. “Real” in TES is kind of a fragile poorly defined thing. Gods and myths act beyond what is real in the setting
>>722671354Femcel girlfailure elf version of goob?
>>722673509wowthat does look like a great time
>>722669569>justNo, but that is part of it. ES lore also takes a lot of stuff from Buddhism, the CHIM stuff especially.
>>722673509right, I forgot>>722673541>>Continues to fuck up and learn nothing from their mistakesThey went back to simply killing shit which is what they are actually good at. So I'd say they learnt something here
>>722664527So, Trinimac is a wannabe Buddha?
>>722659236Kratosposting is getting to me.
>>722666489We'd have to kneel to say it to your runt ass face.
>>722659236Bettermanbros.....
>>722666489>what? we cant hear you from down therelol lmao
>>722673946>>722674053the samefagging is getting old
>>722670639Nips wish elves were them
>>722661742>that one piss skinned stazi that will help you out at the Thalmor party by causing a distractionHe was a good lad
>>722673841I mean almost everybody in 40K is good at killing shit. So it's not exactly an outstanding achievement.
>>722674336they are among the bestest and uniquely determined>Oy vey remember 10 spesh mehreen chapters turned into soap
>>722661275>Tolkiien, had to give them some severe drawbacks so everyone else can have at least a chance.except Tolkein didn't. his elves are basically gods. they ruled the world until they got bored of it and left.
>>722674945>shhhh. wife #1 is sleeping
>>722674945sleep tight elf wife
>>722674978That's broadly correct but you're leaving out the multiple internecine kinslayings and the disastrous wars against Sauron and Morgoth. They were bloodied badly before they decided to abandon Middle-Earth.
>>722674945what do you call this artstyle?
elves makes everything better
>>722675558Nah Helga is superior
>>722675679consider Helga (elf)
>>722675558Atlanteans and Hyperborea in general predate the elves by several orders of magnitude. Knife ears wished they could match the martial prowess of the old world.
>>722674815>Not the green boys or the reality warping space egyptians.I think we can all agree that the spess mehreens deserve a benching once in a while though. As a treat.>Also Eldar getting to win ever lmao.
>>722670045>instant loss imminent
>>722675449urotikosoji-era
>>722664558>>722665760>>722665912>>722666310The race of the child is "mostly" relied on by the mother
After Gailen, Talos Stormcrown, ascended, his son Martin Draconic took his place and waged war against the false gods of the Tribunal. He conquered most of Morrowind and ruled for nearly a hundred years before his great grandoson Damian came of age. And, like every previous Draconic sorcerer of unbridled power, he abdicated. For everyone knew what Damian was. The blood of Reman flowed in Gailen's veins. Damian, however, was blessed with far more than any that came before. "Father was still stronger than you," Martin commented, eyes fixated on the heart behind the three so called gods. "They brought him here and only kept themselves from being destroyed by telling him everything about that." Archmage Salazar, last surviving and still living son of Lionel after nearly four hundred years, was focused only on the three. "Eternity will never be in the grasp of those who could only have power outside of themselves.""Death has finally come." Salazar the Apostate, far having abandoned his flesh, shook his bones in laughter. "Did you expect your deceit to continue forever?""Joor Zah Frul!" Those were the only words Damian spoke, tearing them of their ill-gotten divinity forever with a shout lost to time and reclaimed through a being as old as its beginning.Eternity awaited and there was still much of Tamriel to unite
>>722675836Orkz and Necrons are very reliant on their insane numbers and they feel more like some kind of force of nature... Biel-Tan has that elite force feel>>Also Eldar getting to win ever lmao.Biel-Tan is good because they win, sometimes. They should cease attacking mon-keigh for a while and force their ways on other craftworlds
>>722676752It's whatever.Power scaling in 40Kek is dumb anyway. If you like the space elves, then more power to you.
>>722676917Is this powerscaling? It's true Necrons and Orkz would probably wipe them out in a full head on conflict, but they just don't operate that way. First and foremost I admire the spirit
>>722665093the internet was a mistake
>>722677447Orkz have canonically won the fight by virtue of colonizing portions of space beyond the Milky Way. If you take the pirate radio transmissions received that could be potentially millions of year old by the time you hear them.
>>722659236where can I see more of this, tesg?
>>722671354>My human crush didnt reciprocate my feelings>Alinor has fallen>Billions must die
>>722664792Bretons are still Men and not Merthough manmer is a common slur used against them
>>722659108>https://vocaroo.com/1bzCpozyFrDB
>>722658396because we are
>>722659108>>722680962>ywn be a Druchii's Human love-slave
>humans have to squat in elf ruins and beg gods for divine aid when elves btfo them in any war>human empire is built using an elf godmech's nuking powers>native human religions phased out so they can syncretise with elves more
>>722679340I don't know anybody has uploaded my pics specifically there, if you want more of the same face there's Woe
>>722668824>>722669789people think mind flayer sex is novel when this bitch fucked a gibbering mouther 20 years ago.
>>722659108>never ask a human supremacist what the race of his beloved wife is
>>722673749...but why are they supposed to stay naked?
>>722661367>They don't have "flesh gardens" or turn people's corpses into works of "art".Unrelated, but I find there's something beautiful and poetic about the idea of flesh gardens. I can imagine the beautiful garden with all sorts of flowers, while a powerful Ayleid cuts open a nedic man and spreads his guts all over the garden.The Ayleids were fascinating.
>>722682416Pirotess is pure and would never do such a thing
>>722659108>tfw no Dreadfu gf
>>722664613It's a pendulum swinging like a lot of cultural tropes or whatever.It used to be elves were all noble and admirable. To subvert that, people made their elves shitty assholes. People got tired of that and yearned for the classic, nostalgic vibe so they went back to being heroic.
>>722659108>>722680962>>722681807>Druchii/Drukhari S/O who acts all 'edgy BDSM enthusiast who wants to rape and torture you' but folds the minute you give the slightest amount of pushback.I'm still laughing at the people who humoured Marazhai.
>>722675558>>722675679>>722675726This elven mercenary got me actin' unwise.
>>722683332>I can imagine the beautiful garden with all sorts of flowers, while a powerful Ayleid cuts open a nedic man and spreads his guts all over the garden.I always chalked it up as the equivalent of cutting open a hare before suspending it in a clearbox with embalming fluid. So you can see the internals. The difference here is the nede is still alive and his guts is being held together with illusion school magic ala force telekinesis via a pair of soul stones on either side. Think of that one off sequence from Genocyber with the dude splayed out on a bed before it cuts to black. And now apply that at scale with the warring city states of the Aylieds. There is a reason why Whitestrake hated these cunts with a burning passion because the future he came from took these art displays to the societal level. Hagia Sophia if it were covered in the beating hearts of 1 and 19 more thousand slaves all screaming in unison. Like an organized attempt at shifting the surrounding landscape with a forced choir engaging in a civil project backed by tonal architecture. The White Gold Tower being a reality anchor would be drenched in just as much suffering. Enough to give Lorkhan and company a bad case of MDS just from catching a glimpse of it from orbit.
>>722685803>The White Gold Tower being a reality anchor would be drenched in just as much suffering.Fascinating. I wondered what was the end goal of the Ayleids, their pre-Meretic secrets were lost, but they knew things other Aldmer forgot. A wheel inside a wheel.
>>722658396They are. That's the point of them
>>722686383Ayleids were just turbo sadists that loved fucking with the local human populace because they sucked shit at doing war. But they weren't the only ones living around what's essentially a spoke upon the wheel of the world. Bosmer have their own version located in the heart of Valenwood. That one is a massive world tree born out of a small acorn planted by their patron god. It's why they get so batshit insane about the hippie antics because their entire existence is based around the preservation of that very lifeline. You burn down the right tree and that part of the world will sink into the void.
>>722669312Hmm why are her knees red
>>722664558That isn't true you retard. They retain some traits from the father.Read racial phylogeny you dumb lorelet.
>>722658396They were here first
>>722687082>because they sucked shit at doing war.Not exactly, their behaviour went from Aldmer elitism to degenerate sadism, something not all Ayleids approved. The nedic vs ayleid conflict was also a civil war, with the more reserved and good nature Ayleids helping the humans against their tyranic brothers.I think their sadism was related to their own philosophical vision of the world, the old elhnofey forms were gone and now they had defined forms.
Because in the setting they take place in they generally are>Either immortal or live for thousands of years>Perfect health at all times>Long lives allow them to cultivate wisdom more than any other race
elves would be online calling you all subhumans
>>722687720>Not exactly, their behaviour went from Aldmer elitism to degenerate sadism, something not all Ayleids approved. The nedic vs ayleid conflict was also a civil war, with the more reserved and good nature Ayleids helping the humans against their tyranic brothers.That did end up biting them in the ass over the long game once a certain monkey man got involved. The last king of Nenalata didn't realize how borked things were about to get when the Alessian inner circle started looking for ways to purge elven influence out of the collective consciousness. Beyond surface level details like scrubbing the old temples of their generation spanning gore fests and adopting new naming conventions. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place for sure but the last few thousand years worth of misery that was wrought wouldn't be forgiven so easily.
>>722689685subelves maybe, I'm literally a human
>>722689685No Khajiit ever called me nyagga
>>722689685Knife-ears are just jealous because they haven't had sex in over 500 years.
>Fictional Tsun race>They look attractive due to 2D and can show dere (because its fiction)In reality these cunts would show no love whatsoever for you and just wish you the worst, no wonder people are racist against them
reminder that Tolkien himself endorsed HMEF (human male elf female) pairing in his worksyou can just imagine incelves coping and seething on ardachan about not being able to compete with big human cock and High Kong Elessar appropriating their culture while appropriating Arwen's pussy
>>722658396shor did nothing wrongtotal elf death
>>722689693>That did end up biting them in the ass over the long game once a certain monkey man got involved.Yeah, makes you wonder if they regretted supporting the nedics. Some ayleids were cruel, but Marukh and his order broke the dragon and the cosmic order.
>>722669423Trinimac is Malacath. It's akin to the same bullshit that happens with Sheogorath and Jyggy. In the novel Lord of Souls, Malacath even comments on it. TES gods also have strange qualities like how gods take on different names and forms for the Khajiit and Wood Elves.
>>722682416Being a monsterfucker is part of why she's awesome.
Really depends on the setting.Elder scrolls/Warhammer elves are scum and should be wiped out of existence.
>>722689685I'm a dunmer
>>722692420The greatest hero of TES is a Mer
>>722692812and who is he saving the world from? elves
>>722692930Good point
>>722664613HFYfags got too uppity and people remembered that Tolkien was based
>>722692930lorkhandivinity itself is the issue
>>722664613I was always pro-Mer
>>722693114Yeah that's right. Nerevar had to get rid of the Heart of Lorkhan to save Mundus.
>>722691054There are female human male elf pairings too though
>>722691054there are like 3 recorded in his gorillion year history
>>722692812The Nerevarine is an Imperial, ash-skin.
>>722693417He may be a cyrodillbut his name aint quintus
>>722664792what about foresworn?
>>722693610>Dune ripoff>thinking the Nerevarine isn't a Man who went native
>>722658396teset
>>722693610>>722693727The Nerevarine was most likely a imperial dunmer living in Cheydinhal. If I had to guess, I would say his original profession was that one of a thief or low level crook
>>722692812>needed mystic nonsense to get the job done>meanwhile the Hero of Kvatch solo'd an entire daedric invasion
>>722667450>I’ll take Elder scrolls high functioning sociopathsA high-functioning sociopath is just a psychopath. Should have just said "high-functioning psychopath."
>>722665246>Take a (literally) white character>Make her brownFuck off.
Do they look like that because they got fucked alongside Trinimac or do they look like that because it is not such a great idea to live in isolated communities and only allow one dude to send his genes into the next generation?
>>722670132>>722670259He's overcoming one of them right there.
>>722694537they look like that because they're the spawn of the poop god
>>722675558Fuck sea niggers.>>722685358Fuck Helga (sexually.)
>>722658396Because they're white. You can't understand this, since you're brown (american).
>>722694662Why was it green poop? Was he eating baby food?
>>722665093You are correct and the other anons are ignorant(and/or brown)
>>722672257W-why are they holding her down? What are they going to do to her?
>>722661129it was OVER for them before it even truly began friend
>>722694716>since you're brown (american).>Muh Americans
>>722694537i'd have a female orc rape me
>>722694439Saati is blue thoughbeight
>>722664792Still humans.
>>722695043You're right and I'm retarded, but that doesn't make you right.
Need more playable evil elves
>ywn be shit talked by a high elf whilst getting a reach around handjob why live
>>722695006You're brown.
>>722695226Post your skin, faggot.
>>722695226You will never be an elf noldorfag.
>>722695131breed Thayla.
>>722658396
>>722695856lame looking, urban elves should look like this
>>722695856>mana vapeI like the idea that urban elves have to medicate due to being separated from magical forests. It would be less like amoking and more like magical diabetes though.
>>722696027stay in your containment thread durgesh
>>722695481Yep, you're definitely brown.>>722695545>t. ameridalit
>>722696237>Yep, you're definitely brown.Then I'll do it first, dickhead.
>>722659236That's a male elf.
>>722696567Where in iraq do you come from?
>>722697141That's not even clever. I'm not sure why I expected better. I will now roll a nationality check and assume you're British. You can deny it, just like you deny being right but that's just the impression that I get.
>>722697113No idea where you got that from but no?https://litter.catbox.moe/t1e2dqp3tymaj18a.pngAlso the modlist was never finished so the skin is not exactly how I want it to look
>>722662952>Longer LivedInterestingly, this isn't inherently an advantage and well written media often reflects that. Has anyone seen the movie Gattaca with Ethan Hawke? Great movie about how genetically engineered "superior" humans aren't motivated to exceed the role they were engineered for, so normal humans can end up surpassing them when they have the ambition too.Likewise, big as long lived as elves are would give them a completely different perspective on the world, which good writing reflects. Elves are often removed from the day to day affairs of the world, and aren't motivated to accomplish things in a short lifespan like humans are. For someone living thousands of years, why build a castle you'll live to see crumble? Meanwhile humans are desperate to make their short lives mean something, which leads to them accomplishing great things.
>>722691054>Chris my son.....
>>722697294*me being whiteDurr hurr.
>>722696567>giving the gorilla marketers more hands to play around with Grim
>>722697986Gorilla?
>>722661129I love that one retarded companion, I can't remember his name it's been 15 years, but he describes this weapon in the most memorable dialogue in the game to me:>He used it to kill all the elves. But not all of em, cause some of em are still here
i love skyrim bros...
>>722698916That sounds like something Farkus would say. Him and Lydia are cut from the same stone when it comes to filling out the hole where their brains should be.
Stop wanking to elves.
>>722699285no, I don't think I will.
>>722699404Build for the BVLL of Ostland.
>>722699285Stop making them so sexy.
>>722658396because they "are"... totally not anything (((familliar)))
>>722664613Elf hatred is a meme from the reddit era, hatred for what is beautiful propagated by short, fat, ugly, bearded men, in other words redditors.
>>722699285Can I start stabbing elves instead?
>>722700876I like elf hating as a meme, elf love as a meme, and unironic elf hate and love. What am I?
>>722701584self-loathing orc
>>722702017Orcs aren't real, Anon.
>>722701584A man of sufficient tastes.
>>722697620>Elves are often removed from the day to day affairs of the world, and aren't motivated to accomplish things in a short lifespan like humans are. For someone living thousands of years, why build a castle you'll live to see crumble?I hate this fucking meme. Just because you're long lived, doesn't mean your IQ should drop by 100 points. You don't build a castle or a fortress because it looks cool. You build them because they're areas of denial that can stall enemy armies by months in a war. Likewise, an Elf isn't gonna spend a century writing a book or drawing an art piece. Yet in Fantasy, you'll often see them doing nonsense like this because "days feel like minutes to them" or some other bullshit. Fucking lol. If the Elf isn't mentally challenged, then they should be finishing their art in the same amount of time as a normal, passionate human artist...if not FASTER because they have CENTURIES of life experience to draw from. Because get this, when you have EXPERIENCE, you can do things FASTER and more EFFICIENTLY.If Elves were taken to their logical conclusion as nigh immortal, godlike creatures blessed with an affinity towards magic, then humans literally wouldn't be able to complete. It would be the difference between Heaven and Earth. Elves would be like the Xeelee Sequence, an incomprehensibly powerful alien race that humans could neither comprehend or challenge in any meaningful way.
>>722702550>Elves would be like the Xeelee Sequence*Elves would be like the Xelee in the Xelee Sequence
>>722671354Elves can really be the worst of incels.
Little me wasn't ready for Kingdom Under Fire elves...
>>722702550But what if elves were inherently melancholic by nature
>>722694537The true answer is that TES is an idealist world (in the ontological sense) and that the followers of Trinimac rubbed themselves in the essence of rejection brought by honesty they changed their nymics and thus forms aswellalso this >>722694662
>>722704853>But what if elves were inherently melancholic by natureEven if Elves were inherently sad or depressed, they'd still be unfathomably more advanced and talented then humans. You can't compare a race that lives for hundreds, or even thousands of years, to humanity. Humanity quite literally cannot compete. Early TES Lore even understood this considering it took literal divine intervention and a demigod from the future for humanity to be free from the bondage of Elven slavery.
>>722658396>literally descendants of the divines themselves>meanwhile h*mans only exist because lorkhan the trickster wanted to fuck over his fellow et'ada for goodextermination of humans should be every mer's #1 priority. the thalmor did nothing wrong.
>>722705247Tolkien also understood this. Elf-lords were capable of going toe-to-toe with Literal Satan. They've diminished by Lord of the Rings because successive wars with Morgoth and Sauron decimated their populations and they have an "out" - they can always say "screw Middle Earth, I'm going to heaven" and just leave.
>>722704853>But what if elves were inherently melancholic by natureThen you get Dragon Age Elves, arguably one of the most pitiful and abused Elf variants in fiction
I know if I lived 1,200 years, I'd still be fucking useless.
>>722664613>Basically every game setting I’ve seen has evil ass elves in some wayName 5
>>722705808Rogue Trader (Elder, Dark Eldar)Total War Warhammer 1-3 (Dark Elves)Skyrim (Thalmor)Morrowind (the Dunmer, the Tribunal, Dagoth Ur)Oblivion (the leader of the Mythic Cult that kills the Emperor and tries to usher in the apocalypse)Baldur's Gate II (Irenicus and the Drow)Baldur's Gate III (Minthara and the Drow)
>>722705405Kyne, Stendarr, Zenithar and Dibella all sided with CHADkhan. Sorry, Mershits, but the Aedra prefer Men.
>>722702550we do see that in TES. elven mages who can reach near divine power levels because they spent centuries honing their magical abilities. alas even among mer some will have more talent for it than others. on the other hand, a mer who spends all his life farming isn't going to be a demigod ever.
>>722706381The Dunmer are fairly interesting, morally, because they adhere to a primitive morality based on the supremacy of the corporate family rather than just being evil for the sake of evil. I feel like Dunmer morality would be perfectly comprehensible and legible to, say, Rome in the era of its kings.
>>722706536>we do see that in TES.Not really, no. On a surface level maybe, but not if it was taken to its logical conclusion. You yourself even admit that some train themselves to literal godlike levels of power, and yet, humans are still on top, and the Elven Kingdoms are still under the command of the human Empire.This made sense in the past when humanity had shit like the Numinidum and Tonal Magic to balance the scales, but humans in modern TES don't have those abilities. Yet in settings like Morrowind and Oblivion, the Elves aren't the dominant power of the world. It simply doesn't make sense.No, I'm not stating every Elf will be some godlike ubermetsch. But the average elf would greatly trump a human through the centuries of experience they have alone. And the elves that actually applied themselves would be gods that humans would've even be able to challenge unless the gods themselves intervened.
>>722705405>Anu became the standard template for all things Mer>Padomay took up the mantle for aspects of change ala chaos>Lorkhan an small figment of Pado gathers all representatives of the given kalpa to manifest a world to anchor themselves to >at any point their given reality can collapse because their relatively petty squabbles are the subject to the whims of a sleeping god Spooky
>>722705462Failguard declared them responsible for starting every bad thing in Thedas so hating on them in that setting is acceptable.
>>722705247>Early TES Lore even understood this considering it took literal divine intervention and a demigod from the future for humanity to be free from the bondage of Elven slavery.you could argue that a major factor of elven domination in the early days of tamriel was that elves were already organized in to kingdoms and larger societies while humans were just spread around in smaller tribes, making them easy pickings. with the human population exponentially increasing in size, they're already a huge problem just because of their numbers.
>>722706435>bird bitch>pussy>jew>whore
>>722706536>Dunmer spends literal centuries cracking rocks for pennies>gets so good at his job that he doesn't bother ascending above the status of a common laborer>can instinctivly point out the value of a given rock based on pure animal instinct An elf that has spend a few lifetimes growing potatoes must be a good farmer if they're still scratching around in the dirt. That or they aren't a total asshole that has been driven out by all manner of excuses that would come from living in a bumfuck town.
>>722707185>faggot
>>722706887And what you say is what's happening. Human dominance over the elves is a historical aberration. It lasted, firstly, for the Alessian Rebellion, and that was partly due to a civil war between elves and divine intervention. The next period of human dominance was the Reman Empire, and even then they were unable to conquer Summerset and Morrowind. The third period of human domination was a brief four-hundred year period that was brought about by, again, multiple flavors of divine intervention. The games are set in the rare periods of human dominance. Even by Skyrim it's clear that the age of human rule over Tamriel is over.
>>722706381Rogue Trader everyone's evilWarhammer, the setting where 55% of the memes actually came fromELder scrollsdoes anyone care about that setting anymore? Like 76 and starfield have obliterated ES stonksDnD the other 35% of the memes come from Alos people didn't hate elves because they were evil it's because; they were overpowered mary sues and most modern stories are poorly written HFY where humans everything by author fiatthey were annoyingly preachy which is again handled by HFY wank where everything is done by humansthey were used for weird cringey roleplay, which is taken up by dragonkin and what the fuck ever else DnD has added
>>722707313>One of the Remans sends a failed expedition into Akavir>can't even get off the beach without getting strafed by wild thunder storms>goes back home and gets subverted by a snakeman and his gaggle of resident weebsThe real power is in the far east not with the knife ears.
>>722706435makes me wonder if, at any point, it would be possibly for auriel, chief god of mer, to go toe-to-toe with lorkhan. even if it would be just creating some sort of dark trinimac whose only purpose is to snuff out lorkhan's creatures aka humans. kinda like a reverse pelinal.>Auriel could not save Altmora, the Elder Wood, and it was lost to Men. They were chased south and east to Old Ehlnofey, and Lorkhan was close behind. He shattered that land into many. Finally Trinimac, Auriel's greatest knight, knocked Lorkhan down in front of his army and reached in with more than hands to take his Heart. He was undone. The Men dragged Lorkhan's body away and swore blood vengeance on the heirs of Auriel for all time.of course, much to mer's chagrin, he could just remain petty and claim that they have to achieve divinity through greatness in life to be worthy of his attentions.
>>722658396>why do whiteys always think they're better than everyone?We'll never know, swarthoid.
>>722690119underrated
>>722706887>and the Elven Kingdoms are still under the command of the human Empire.this isn't the case anymore as of the 4th era; but alas, it may be explained by elves wanting to avoid being battered into submission to the point of extinction. mer consider humans to be schizo retards throwing temper tantrums like toddlers, and when a guy like tiber septim appears and starts threatening you with obliteration via divine robot, you don't want to be on his bad side.it's also pretty practical since it's not like the empire forced a local human ruler onto the elven kingdoms. elves can still do what they want and their elites get to enjoy the benefits of trading with imperial jews.
>>722661275And even as far as tolkien was concerned there only drawback was that they didn't give a shit about ruling over the lesser races
>>722707313>first human empire is almost immediately coopted by a crazy monkey and his racist cultists who everyone hated>second empire is soon coopted by a snek sorcerer for hundreds of years Honestly the human empires were mostly fuck ups
>>722708053Auriel and Lorkhan are literally the same entity, it's the grand bullshit as said by Kirkbride. Akatosh and Lorkhan are just two sides of the same two headed dragon
>>722658396Elves are more similar to stagnant Imperial China thinking they'll remain on top of the world forever, refusing to evolve, and kneecapping science because it "disrespects tradition"
>>722708653The third human empire was also ruled by elves for like a fourth of it. Empress Katariah (a dark elf) and her two sons ruled for around 100 years between the three of them, IIRC, and then at the end the Empire was held together by Potentate Ocato (a high elf).
Reminder that the second most popular septim emperor was a dark elf woman
>>722708846Another thing I find ironic is that the maybe the most significant and laudible achievement of the Third Empire was integrating the orcs, which Tiber himself would be disgusted by, he hated orcs
>>722708653>>722708846what about the reachmen emperors
>>722660561Elves live for thousands of years. They literally are the elves that achieved those things.
Not all elves are evil but all of societies ills can be laid at the foot of an elf.
>>722708995That was a brief period between the Reman Empire and the Septim Empire, I think. They didn't really rule much outside the Reach and Cyrodiil, I don't believe.
>>722708995They weren't a true empire, didn't have akatosh's blessing. It was a plot point that their emperor wanted to turn himself into a dragonborn
>>722662528>when men rule the world there is peace and prosperity for everyoneFucking kek, the entire reason the first dominion formed was because the altmer noticed how cruel men were to each other and wanted to help them move beyond that.
>>722708741>So that he might know himself this way, too, Anu created Auriel, the soul of his soul. Auriel bled through the Aurbis as a new force, called time. With time, various aspects of the Aurbis began to understand their natures and limitations. They took names, like Magnus or Mara or Xen. >One of these, Lorkhan, was more of a limit than a nature, so he could never last long anywhere.lorkhan was still the bad egg of the bunch and he and auriel got into a scuffle as soon as mundus materialized because he was the faggot who tricked them all with false promises, then tries to kill what remained of the et'ada/mer by creating and unleashing his humans all over nirn to hunt them down. literal alien invasion tier shit.
>>722708529elder scrolls utilizes that, too. from TESO:>Orcs, Dark Elves, and Men—most of all, Men—are best at war. They have drenched the mainland of Tamriel in rivers of blood. As long as their follies were confined to murdering one another, what they did in and around their so-called "Imperial City" was beneath the notice of the Altmer of Summerset.orc and dark elves are only mentioned here because of they are members of the ebonheart pact in the game; it's mostly human stupidity and recklessness the altmer seethe over.
>>722663138>hahaha no>muh shalidorThe elves literally have something like five mages who ascended to godhood.
>>722663138Cultural achievements as in the greatest city of mankind literally being a squatter camp in the ruins of an elven city.
>>722675449anime slop
>>722666428Yeah its really complicated. Boethiah being the daedric lord of lies and stife? Doesnt hold any pertinence to our question. Its really up in the air here.
>>722662952Remind us what happened when ysgramor and the other atmoran chads decided they had had enough of the knife-ears? Tell us who started the greatest empire in nirn’s history, huh faggot.
>>722664613Tolkien, a much more talented man then anybody on this board and creator of the modern elf, was himself an elf. If its good enough for him its good enough for me.
>>722702550>they should be finishing their art in the same amount of time as a normal, passionate human artist...if not FASTER because they have CENTURIES of life experience to draw from. Because get this, when you have EXPERIENCE, you can do things FASTER and more EFFICIENTLY.Elves in fiction almost never care about efficiency. They care about perfection. Experience brings mastery, and longevity brings patience. They have the ability and time to dedicate themselves to perfecting their crafts.
>>722709375>retarded knife-ear faggot
>>722667698I read it :) pretty thought provoking
>>722664948>elves, japanAre one of the worst depictions of elves I can imagine.
>>722708529They also had a problem with changing times, but that's hardly exclusive to them. In Tolkien mythology, Man is the mortal agent of change, or at least, the mostly good ones.
>>722669901>elf hater doesn't know how to greentextSad really. As for the "obessed with nature" part. Look at India, Asia, Africa, The middle east. Do they seem to give a fuck about the enviroment they're living in?
>>722671354Holy reddit
>>722664689I've just recently noticed how wide and thick her head is, the hell is up with that.
>the thalmor arrive in skyrim>suddenly there's redguards walking everywhere>talos worship is illegal>the apothecaries recommend skooma
>>722665823Elves are literally for girls and fags. Everyone that plays them is one of the two.
>>722686383>what was the end goal of the AyleidsTo elicit the prisoner. If they cause enough suffering, eventually something had to give, and they could finally break the world free and return to divinity
>>722677447Canonically elves, would wipe out the necrons and orcs if given a chance. Its just that they have the major sword of damocles that is slaanesh hanging over their heads at all times.
>>722709640Literal lies.>>722709735Towers have always existed. They weren't built. They just are.
>>722711461The Ayleids probably considered the use of violence on humans amusing but pointless if it didn't had a real purpose.
>>722705247It took divine intervention from two gods AND the ayelids being at war with each other but your right.
>>722706435>All the trash sided with the lord of trashWow. You forgot to mention the daedric princes that sided with him btw.
>>722709029Not elder scrolls elves.
>>722706887The altmer aren't interested in having direct power over man. They were pretty content keeping to themselves, and even chided the ayelids and dunmer when they went on their quests to the mainlands. Even so, the empire of man abides by there rules. There will be no worship of the false god in empire controlled provinces.
elves are gay
>>722705405>mer can't handle a little bit of divine bantsNGMI
>>722708808The elves of elderscrolls are literally more scientifically advanced then men thought. Humans find elven ruins and form cargo cults around them in the setting.
>>722709029They are long lived to.
>>722712223Dumbass. The Daedric Princes explicitely did not partake in Lorkhan's "Creation of Nirn" ritual.Their whole schtick is being Not-Ancestor. Sure, they might align with Lorkhan, but then we can go down the TriniMalacath rabbithole and end up declaring that Daedra align with Auriel
>>722711346>Its the thalmor that forced the empire to claim hammerfell. Wot>>722711352>muh girls and fagsThe fae were respected by both men and women for their near godlike nature.
>>722658396made for anal
>>722711718>Xarxes>Sotha Sil>Manimarco>SyrabaneGods ascended from mer>The Towers are a series of natural and artificial structures on Mundus built by both the Aedra and mer that hold power over the world
>>722658396We are.
>>722712862>divine bants is shackling you to some rock were you will be forced to mingle with the spirits of suffering and destruction for all time>divine bants is have most of the divinities (good) having there powers stripped and their souls scattered at the hand of a trickster god and his daedric allies
>>722713598HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>722659060Kek
Fuck elves.
>>722713747my faggot, that is the only way anything can existthe entire world is a dream
>>722713134The "trinimalacath" rabbit hole as you so put it, is boethiah who aligned herself with lorkhan sneaking up on trinimac and ganking him. Never forget which side boethiah and mephala took in the war.
>>722713762>No argumentI wasn't expecting it but I'll accept your concession
>>722714015>Th-the entire world is a dream bu-but don't you go unmaking it now be-because I don't know thats illegal or something
>>722714087you're mistaking power elves worshipped as gods for actual godsthe closest to actual godhood any of the knife-ears you listed is mannimarco, and he's not even a real god because he can only manifest in a limited way, granting an extremely limited power of turning grand soul gems black even then, that's just something the ideal masters can also do at any time in their plane of oblivionare they gods too then?
>>722714156It would only make it restart.
>>722658396>be older/wiser>have higher vantage point than the young/immaturewhat's the issue?
>>722713747Just a little bit of tomfoolery to lift the spirits.
>>722714259>Are the ideal masters godsUh yeah? Also sotha sil isn't a god? Lets not even get onto you claiming the the guys on the altmer pantheon arent gods. Xarxes literally wrote the oghma infinitium.
>>722714327>It would only make the dream restardForgetting that the dream shit is all conjecture, whats wrong with restarting in a better state?
i've achieved chim btw
>>722659060keep your woke shit out of my fantasy setting
>>722714490>Uh yeah?oh boy>>722714608how the fuck would it be better?all of existence is reliant on lorkhanakatosh only becomes time and allows events to be possible because of lorkhan's shenaniganseverything would end up being the same
>>722714748cope, giga faggot deluxe
>>722714825woke piece of shit
>>722714864this fantasy world is older than you, tiktok beta
>>722714774>oh boyIs not an answer. Is sotha sil a god? Yes or no?>>722714774>existence is reliant on lorkhanGoing to just pretend that the part where the fragments of anu formed their own personalities doesnt exist?
so why are we getting a dogshit redguard game instead of a game on the akaviri continent
>>722714965why don't you go blacken the orcs instead, or is that too "racist" for you?
>>722714975>Is not an answer. Is sotha sil a god? Yes or no?nothe entire point of morrowind is the tribunal aren't actual gods they siphon power from the heart, lorkhan>Going to just pretend that the part where the fragments of anu formed their own personalities doesnt exist?oh you fucking retard
>>722714650Never forget that "chim" was taught to vivek by molag bal. The daedric princes have the so called key to escaping the dream but they're still present in the setting. Curious isn't it, almost as if the dream shits all bullshit.
>>722715078cope
>>722715104Anon, Tiber Septim had chim but he's stuck as Talos. The Daedra have greater knowledge of existence but can't do anything about it because they're spokes in the wheel
>>722713417Which one?
>>722715094>They aren't real gods they siphon power from the heartKek, your talos manling?>you're retardedDid the aedra exist (keyword) as seperate entities before mundus was created? A real simple question with a real simple answer.
i wish i could erase all eso lore and i wish the wiki stopped using it as reference
>>722715314>i wish i could erase all eso loreWhat would you have instead?
>>722715257>they k-know the answer b-but it just like doesn't work for themWas vivek a spoke in the wheel to? Why have none of these guys escaped le dream already? Could it be that its all bullshit?
>>722715224i knew it, you're a racist only set out to destroy beauty. things that are already ugly you don't bother with.
>>722715397lore from the elder scrolls games that aren't eso
>>722715295all of them.
>>722715475So, a mess?
>>722715104>>722715257Gaps in it, my bad.You can't escape the facade if you are a fundamental part of it.>>722715306>TalosThat just straight up is Lorkhan. He was a shezzarine. Talos was Lorkhan becoming himself again.Mer and man are elhnofeyit is fundamentally impossible for them to be aedra as it literally means "our ancestors"it is not a better state of existence as the aedra themselves are more concepts and phenomena than actual beings>>722715457You can have knowledge of chim and be incapable of achieving it.Vivek used the heart of Lorkhan: he lacks his own ability to actually do anything
>>722714038Fair enough, that's one perspective. But what makes that the correct view over, say, something like "Boethiah actually freed the followers of Trinimac from the trickster deity Malak/Malacath"?Rabbithole, due to an unreliable narrator.
Speaking of Trinimac, Meridia is also not a Daedra
>>722671354Imagine being Titus as a legionnaire later, getting captured as a POW during the great war, and getting put into Elenwen's custody for interrogation.
>>722715697>talos is a god thats why he can be a god>Man and mer can never be godsSo whats the point of lorkhans little cage? Werent we supposed to put up with suffering because it allowed us the opportunity to ascend? Or was that all bullshit to try and justify the prison?>you can have knowledge of chim yet...The no true chimsman fallacy
>>722658578They were basically perfect in Tolkien, except they couldn’t die (even if they died in battle they were reincarnated). In LotR elves were actually jealous of the freedom humans had to die and move on.So gaygax saw this world, didn’t understand it, and couldn’t comprehend a superior race having humility, so he made them haughty manlets to give them some drawbacks.
>>722671354this is stupid but i laughed
>>722716029>Man and mer can never be godsThe entire point is to achieve Amaranth: to become a dreamer. Godhood is a lesser state of being than godhead.
>>722715863>Thats one perspective>but what makes that correct view over say boethiah freeing...>Boethiah (sometimes spelled Boethia or Boet-hi-Ah),[1] known as the Prince of Plots,[2][3] the Daedra Prince of Cruelty and Torture,[4] the Dark Warrior,[5] Deceiver of Nations, Queen of Shadows, Goddess of Destruction,[6] Hunger,[7] and Fount of Inspiration,[8] He-Who-Destroys and She-Who-Erases[9], Boethiah the Schemer [10], The Dark Mistress[11]
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY
>>722716176Malacath has confirmed the story himselfjust that it wasn't so literal because being a poo god is embarassing
>>722716170Cool. Who has become a dreamer btw? I'll wait as you list the extensive list of people that have managed to achieve this mythically state, which will surely justify the trillions of beings suffering in lorkhans cage for all eternity.
>>722716232>malacath confirmed it himselfWould be like sheogorath confirming that he didn't begin as a daedra of order.
>>722716351anon, are you going to kill yourself because stubbing your toe hurts?
>>722716225they're not actually gonethey're all hiding somewhere just to fuck with yagrum, it was a prank
>>722716435>In comes the strawmansWhats wrong with trying to address errors in reality? Why dont you try and improve in life? Theres nothing wrong with suffering is there? So why do you try in all avenues to minimize the amount of suffering in your own life? Its such a retarded argument.
>>722660561That would be an apt metaphor if there weren't plenty of Americans still alive who lived when the USA financed Britain out of bankruptcy.The USA beat you in war, and the USA saved you from financial collapse.Wish they didn't, Australia went to shit the moment we let you fuckers buy your way in when you realised that you sent us to a beach resort filled with diamonds, iron, oil, and uranium.
>>722716646you're not addressing anything by tearing it downjesus fucking christ
>>722716618I would too, Yagrum Bigbum is a fucking loser.
>>722716646That's not a strawman:: that is the logical conclusion of wanting to tear down what makes existence existence because it hurts and sucks sometimes
>>722716723>you're not adressing anything by demolishing your prison>just languish in your own shit for all eternityThis is why elves are the pioneers in the elderscrolls btw. They're the only race trying to address the root cause of all issues instead of resigning themselves to being mudslinging barbarians content in wallowing in their own shit.
oh, anon is retarded
>>722716863>>722716723>what makes existence existenceLorkhan didn't create existence, even nord mythology acknowledges that there was something before mundus.Also isn't the entirety of the chim retardation about escaping existence? Whys it okay then?
>Tfw no Altmer gf who alternates between Ayleid slave femdom rp and Alessian revolt maledom rape rp
>>722717016>if buddhism is about escaping suffering, why not kill yourself?
Skyrim almost seems comfy despite the myriad of magical and bestiary horrors that'll try to kill you on a daily basis.
According to the same file, the event text for everyone else is:"Due to the devious efforts of [From.GetTitledNameWithNick] in the dismantling of Tamriel's Towers, the liminal barriers that separate Mundus from Oblivion are no more. The Daedra hordes of the [Root.Religion.GetName] flood every town, city, farm, temple and castle, killing and enslaving anyone in sight. Eventually, without any Tower to hold them still, the very fabrics of reality start to decompose, blending Mundus and Oblivion in a continuous psychedelic hellscape. [From.Religion.GetHighGodName] reigns supreme for a mere brief seconds, as the whole concept of existence starts to fade away. You feel your body relax more and more until you can't feel anything at all. Are you dead or are you free?"
>>722716654I'm American.
>>722715954phew glad I'm not a daedra worshipper
>>722671354>You will never be friendzoned by Todd himself
>>722717921Todd has brown hair.
>>722658396they are and they need to enslave filthy humans like me
>>722669789i need her to adopt me
>>722718207Calm down, Elenwen.
>>722718701I am not a woman and I am not an elf.
>>722717143That's why it's the most Reddit TES game.
>>722719024>Todd breaking hearts across both genders and all the races
>>722719183I'm not big into LIARS.
>>722717921
>>722719247Next time it will be different, you just need to buy Skyrim again to make things work this time.
>>722719535Manga?
>>722719538I only bought it once and for good reason, you little shit.
>>722719584boku no pico
>>722719640>I only bought it onceNo wonder things didn't work out.
>>722719535>>722719584>>722719656It looks surprisingly interesting after I looked up the character name like a non-retard.I wish I had a girlfriend who liked martial arts.
>>722719812Todd, you should let me make New Vegas 2.
>>722693212You were always a faggot
>>722719950How about New Vegas 2 barrels on your face
>>722720056That'd be fine too. I'm ready, Todd.
>>722658396The entirety of TES lore is training you to not flip your shit when you meet the Machine Elves during a DMT trip
>>722720106There is salvation for your soul in buying a new copy of Skyrim
>>722715078This is the cute elf thread. Why are you asking for BBC/BOC?
>>722675421If there is Middle-Earth, does it mean there is Bottom-Earth and Top-Earth?
>>722714825I just don't like brown things.
>>722658396Because they are better
>>722720305i would have complained if he made the elf skin green as well. elves are white.
>>722720305>refuse to eat the maggoty bread for free stinkin days more>intestines stolen
>humans make up fantasy race in their head>everyone just makes up random rulings on how they’re perfect or shit without any connection to a setting at all Ah yes I’ve visualized the ubermensch in my mind and rotated them rapidly, therefore your visualization is retarded and wrong.
Globalist elites....Never trust elfs
>>722721273>Just because the Ubermensch is rotating, something is wrongActually, elves' ability to stay balanced while spinning is part of why they're perfect.
>>722682840Magic fulfills all the needs of clothing, warmth, protection. Why bother wearing anything physical when it'll just weigh you down and chafe your skin.Besides, Elves are beyond such silly concepts like shame in one's natural appearance.
>>722719535sauce????
>>722658396How are Tolkien tier Elves not outright better than humans though?>beautiful>immortal>innately magical creatures with access to magicOther than literal God saying lolno I want Humans to win just because, despite the fact I made them inherently weaker, uglier, vastly more prone to suffering etc.
>>722715574Even the men?
>>722722078Especially the men!
>>722722383That's pretty gay, dude.
>>722658396Elves are gay and cringe because they fucked up harder than humans ever did yet they think they're still better than us because of racism. I mean yeah you got the Shitmer and elves are obviously better than the dumb dogshit (literally) followers of Trinimac but that's such a low bar come on man you have two working legs stop stealing all the gold medals at the special olympics
>>722721695Because there’s no point to them. They’re barely even elves, just perfect little robotic angel people that are content to sit somewhere and do nothing for eternity unless pushed by some outside force. It’s why they all leave middle earth, because it’s changing and they simply weren’t made for change, just to be perfect little statues that sit there forever in their garden of Eden.
>>722722664makes you wonder what the point of it all was
The conquest of Black Marsh was of little note to Morvan. His words about the Argonians themselves are the only records that remain of their existence."Their women are tight enough where it counts. Nothing at all too look at unless you're into reptiles."
>>722721695Tolkien elves are simply better physically and spiritually better, that's their point.But there's no non-Tolkien game settings witch such unbalanced races.
>>722723185>Nothing at all too look at unless you're into reptilesI am.
>>722723340eww
>>722723374Sorry.
Elsweyr fell easily to the Reachmen. Morvan had very little to say about the strange cat people."The little ones can use magic. And the big ones ride even bigger ones. Their women are grateful we lack barbs. Their worship revolved around the moons. And I thought the elves were mad."
>>722723167The point was the adventure, enjoying life while you can, not hoping for an eternity or an end, that sort of stuff. Also nature, mostly nature, Tolkien really fuckin loves him some trees. My one crossover wish would be him getting into the same room as Lovecraft just to see the absolute chimp out from both of them.
>>722723602Giger would be in the corner fucking a replica of an ent with corrupted flesh-bark
>>722723602>My one crossover wish would be him getting into the same room as Lovecraft just to see the absolute chimp out from both of them.I'd pay to see that.
>>722721695if you ever read anything Tolkien wrote you'd have known that elves are to blame for everything that happened and constantly shifted the blame on humans who had to save themhumans were stronger than them, quote literally superhuman, also had long lifespans, created much more powerful civilization, the mere threat of their intervention was enough for sauron to shit himself and run away while he was playing elves like toysthe only reason humans were in worse place than elves is because they didn't get valar sugar daddies to babysit them around and morgoth had free pass on corrupting them from the startelves get just as easily manipulated by sauron and morgoth as humans doand humans get to leave the matters of the world with their immortal spirits instead of being physically bound to arda forever, their fate unknown so they might as well fuck their elf slave harems on the afterlifeelves being ubermensch is mostly coming from jackson's elf wankery, elrond can seethe all he wants but elves are to blame for the rings of power and had humans not bailed them sauron would enslave them all
None were more surprised by the Altmer's sudden capitulation than Morvan himself. He took Eminwe as his prize during Summerset's many attempts to curb the Reachmen's tide. When the lords of Summerset called for her rule, she asked Morvan for permission, promising to swear her allegiance in an effort to prevent the same ravaging she experienced happening to her people. He accepted. Still, he did not respect them at all."They're so weak and pathetic. Even now, they don't understand their inbreeding is why magic burns them so easily. Women are easy on the eyes but fight a lot, crying about how they want to keep their blood pure. It's all the same in the end. They'll go the way of the Dunmer soon enough."
>>722723304Funniest part of Tolkien elves to me is that they’re a product of favoritism. iLuvitar just showered them in everything ever and damn near obliterated the dwarves because nothing was allowed to show up before his precious little tree people. Can kind of see why Morgoth hated him so much, when your dad won’t let you make a race of your own because they’re his super speshul oc people.
>>722724164That's literally not what happened. Iluvatar thought the dwarves were charming. Aule, who created them, was going to destroy them when he felt shame for his impatience and overstepping his place, but Iluvavatar stopped him because he saw the purity and innocence in his act of creation. And he forgave him for his impatience by giving the dwarves proper life and sentience, rather than basically having to be golems that Aule controlled. The only caveat was that they had to stay asleep until after the elves awoke so as to not disrupt the song.The elves are given a lot because they're Firstborn and expected to be stewards. it's like actual firstborn children. They're given a lot, but also a lot is expected of them. They have a lot of responsibility and they need to be in charge and do the hardest work.
>>722715976Basically the plot of “Try Begging Me”
>>722717089Because killing yourself is not a method to escape suffering in a religion were you're reborn once you die.