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Why do elves always think they're better than everyone?
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Anti-elf falseflagging goon thread.
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>>722658396
Damn brats
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Because they are. Humans had to create flaws for them to make themselves feel better over the fact that they're not elves.
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>>722658396
Because they are lorewise?

>first empires on Tamriel
>Tamrielic itself (lingua franca of the empire) is based on the speech and writing of High Elvish and Ayleidoon
>invented like half the schools of magic on their own
>the "Imperial City" is based on the original structure of the Ayleids and their White-Gold Tower
>etc

Ooga booga/knife-ear shitposting aside, Mer are AT LEAST as important as Humans in the setting's history, if not more. Which is a welcoming addition since in so many fantasy settings humanity is front and center everywhere in importance and not just from a narrative pov.
In TES elves clearly greatly influence the world as well.
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Human bros.. it's over...
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>>722658396
You need a frog?
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>>722658396
Because they are? Just look at them, no species can compete.
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>>722658396
What kinda question even is that, of course we're better
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>>722658947
This. It also makes me sad that the Snow Elves never took hold of Skyrim and created a vast empire like the Dwemer or other mer races did. They really got fucked hard.
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>>722659108
>me Johnny Human on the left trying my best to hide my erection from the Druchii stacy
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>>722659353
nobody in elder scrolls has had it worse than the orcs
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>>722659353
Driven underground by ATMORAN BVLLS and then force-fed shrooms by their mer friends which turned them into blind troglodytes
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Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
No one ever said elves are nice.
Elves are bad.
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>>722658396
>entire history of tamriel is a human getting pissed and genociding them
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>>722659645
bad-ass that is!
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CON > DEX
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>>722659353
True. If Orsimer were/are the top candidates for shit out of luck (literally in their case), the Snow Elves take 2nd place easily.

And I love what we know about their culture. The Forgotten Vale and the whole path to the Sanctum journey is one of the best things about Skyrim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IHZQ_YAvy8
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>>722658396
Wtf is with the Elf on the right? She looks like a furry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMLIGP4y8I
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>>722658396
now imagine it being white european/ americans and various africans/ arabs/ indians and you have your answer
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>>722658947
Just because some elves thousands of years ago accomplished something doesn't give you, an elf in the present, the reason to feel superior. It's like an American person being proud that his forefathers fought off the British.
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>>722659236
YWNBAE
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>>722659647
Are you referring to the divine gay robot from the future or to the Breton warlord pretender that had to use a deus ex machina device to bring them into submission. Both didn't genocide them though.
Though you could argue that since the Ayleid survivors got absorbed from other mer populations, their culture was more or less erased. That's a form of genocide-lite I guess.
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>>722660561
But thats exactly how real life works? People are smug because their ancestors build great works of science and architecture and some browns ancestors lived in mud huts no different than the ones they got today. Its the most logical thing for elves to feel superior. Its just that now the elves are the smug europeans and we as humans are in the role of the brownoids.
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>>722660561
Tamriel was promised to the altmer 3000 years ago
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>>722660770
sorry
holocausted
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>>722660770
>Ayeleids
I wonder why they were so into torture and violence specifically
yeah the world of elder scrolls is a violent one but those guys were fucked up even considering that standard
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>>722658396
Because we are
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W-what's wrong with my weapon? *wield with malicious intent*
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>>722661005
post ears
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>>722659647
Getting pissed and genociding them after being enslaved, tortured and raped by elves.
Fixed that for you.
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>>722660979
Dunmer are bug-eating Dadera-worshippers who unironically have government backed assassination guilds. The Altmer are inbred eugenisists who want to go back to a time where they essentially didn't exist. The Dwemer tortured the Falmer so hard they ceased to have the same type of fucking soul as the rest of man and mer.
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>>722661146
i didn't mean it as a bad thing
taking the victim route always makes said vitctim look like a bitch, which is what the elves do and henceforth are
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>>722658578
>>722658947
These anons are right - elves with just the advantage of immortality/super longevity (not mentioning any other things like magic affinity or whatever) would conquer and rule everything in any world they find themselves in. Authors, starting with Tolkiien, had to give them some severe drawbacks so everyone else can have at least a chance.
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>>722661005
>>722661140
>post ears
But only if you are a cute elf girl, not elf guy
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>>722661172
The Altmer don't dedicate their time to what makes humans scream the most or feel the most pain. They don't have "flesh gardens" or turn people's corpses into works of "art".
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>>722661335
Right
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>>722661367
Look at this fucking CHAD. No wonder why N*rds and Imp*rials are so intimidated by them.
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>>722661275
Elves have always been frail weaklings.
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>>722660979
The thing you have to understand about the Ayleids, is that they were the TES equivalent of the Greeks/Sumerians/Etruscans. Meaning there was never a formal unified Ayleid empire. There were many city-states and petty kingdoms.

Some of those kingdoms worshipped Aedra and other worshipped Daedra. Some even worshipped the particularily nasty Daedra like Molag Bal or Namira. My guess is that those were the Ayleids that did all that "flesh-garden" shit. An Aedra-worshipping Ayleid would never pull shit like this. Neither I think a Meridian one.
It wouldn't make sense.

Plus, in TES lore you always have to take into a small account the "unreliable narrator" device. There are many in-game books written in a way as a biased in-universe person would write it. Propaganda does exist in the setting. Not saying it didn't happen, just take this also into account.
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>you are sheltering talos worshippers, are you not?
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>>722661742
I am Talos
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>>722658396
Needs correction
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>>722658396
What's bratty elf pussy like?
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>>722661367
All of those things are just a big "yet". Elves still live in a man-dominated world.
When men rule the world, there is peace and prosperity for everyone, and all are treated as equals. When mer rule the world, they enslave everybody who isn't them, rape non-stop, torture people for fun and carry out genocides.
All mer are a danger to the stability of the world, sometimes very literally when they start building shit like the numidium or conspiring to tear down the divine towers.
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>>722661696
>that one book in skyrim about the history of dunmer that tries to downplay their cultural practices like ghost gates
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elves are simply superior
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>>722658396
In Elder Scrolls (and most other settings), they objectively are. Like they literally are a master race, not some meme. Taller, healthier, longer lived, better at magic, ancient cultural achievements that far surpasses that of humans
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Show this to an elf to find out what they really think about you.
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>>722662952
>Taller
This isn't actually healthy.
>long-lived
their only real advantage but they don't breed enough to make this remarkable
>better at magic
Hahahahaha! No.
>Ancient Cultural Achievements
You will never be a god
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>>722662952
I'd agree if it wasn't obvious that all elves are predisposed to schizophrenia or other mental illnesses and didn't have a crippling addiction to jobbing.
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>>722658396
they wont be laughing when they're sex slaves sold to the highest bidder
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>>722659236
damn I thought this was gonna be kratos for some reason
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>>722659236
>we're better
>open spoiler
>not kratos
cmon
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>>722663587
we must be better mer
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I just like how eternally butthurt at Lorkhan they are.
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>>722663861
it's really funny when you consider everything exists in the first place because of Lorkhan to begin with
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>>722663861
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>>722659060
You can't make half-breeds in TES retards, the race of the children is determined by the mother.
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>>722658396
Still have no idea what caused the sudden shift from elf hatred to elf simps in recent years. Basically every game setting I’ve seen has evil ass elves in some way, a lot of them usually pretty genocidal towards humans to. Is it just because of cutesy anime girl elves like Frieren?
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>>722664613
someone say frieren
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Because they are jews
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>>722664558
What about Bretons?
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>>722658396

Because they live for hundreds or thousands of years, because they have their shit together, because typically live in a utopia generally associated to them under normal circumstances. They're literally designed to be better than us by fantasy writers and they know it.
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>>722664704
>because they are [based]
I agree
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>>722664792
anon forgot about them
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>>722664613
Reputation of elves was salvaged by "elf, Japan" and by it turning out that normalfags who started flooding into D&D due to Critical Role and Baldur's Gate 3 actually really love elves.
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>Altmer are literally super evil and insane and want to unravel existence and kill everybody
>Bosmer are feral illiterate cannibals
>Dunmer are haughty bug herding jews that indulge in slavery and incest the minute Imperial eyes aren't on them

I sorta feel like the Dunmer are the best of the lot
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>>722664792
They are an exception. Basically, ancient humans and High Elves inbred for thousands of years, and that produced the first Bretons. So yeah it is possible to create half-breeds in TES, but it takes a long time.
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today i will remind them
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>>722665093
your wall of cope is old hat noldorfag nobody cares
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>>722664613
Because, WH40K HFY newfag, before the "elf hatred" by edgy faggots of your kind there were "elf simps" that were also edgy faggots but of a different kind. Aka back when DnD's elves were more viable to play than humans so everybody played them, Drizzt and Drow were THE SHIT and every Timmy tried to name his Night Elf Hunter in WoW a variation of Legolas.
It all comes in circles. So does people's opinion about elves in fiction. Nowadays the "knife-ear" and Pelinal jokes have become stale enough that people are starting to move on.

Besides, this kind of elf hateposting happens mainly on a few fantasy franchises like Warhammer (especially 40K) and TES.
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>words words words

no, wanting to have sex with pointy eared girls is not white genocide
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>>722665093
Nah, modern elves are all Jews that deserve hatred and death. Nip elves are just goon bait, and Tolkiens elves were just Aasimar with pointy ears because he loved trees and god so he made his super speshul oc race that also loved trees and god.
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>>722664558
>>722665065
this was retconned
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Dwarves are total reddit.
In my bi-directional brain, this means 4chan must be elf zone.
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>>722664613
This is why we can't have fun banter anymore, you retards take everything at face value thinking anyone can have real hate for imaginary races.
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>>722665760
when
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>>722665823
explain
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>>722664527
So lorkhan is just the demiurge, got it
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>>722664613
I've always been a Deedlit man
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>>722664948
Funny part is, D&D elves are just as fucked up, if not more so, than elder scrolls elves.
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Slam dunk a mon-keigh baby into a trash can
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>>722665760
into what
are bretons just humans, no mer involved
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>>722664527
What the fuck was the whole deal with Trinimac and Boethia anyway? Was Trinimac lying and deceiving the elves while being a Daedra the whole time? Or did Boethia really devour and corrupt what was left of Trinimac?
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>>722661275
Elves' disadvantage in Tolkien is being immortal...
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>>722665823
>Dwarves are total reddit

Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens.
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>>722658396
they are
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>>722665823
hell yeah motherfucker
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>>722664613
>Still have no idea what caused the sudden shift from elf hatred
That was never a thing, dumbfuck.
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>all points in con, strength
>specialization in sexo
will my character make it in the fantasy world?
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>>722658396
They don't shave down there.
This is a good thing.
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>>722666735
Just don't play D&D. It would be perfectly viable character in rules of Fantasy Trip, for example.
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>>722665236
Honestly don’t mind elves in general, it’s more so that a lot of faggots tend to ignore their flaws. I’ll take Elder scrolls high functioning sociopaths over Tolkien angels any day of the week.
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>>722664704
incorrect
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>>722666428
We have no idea. We don't even know the timeline of events. In one telling, Veloth was a reactionary preacher who was railing against the centralization of Aldmeris's ancestor worship. He thought that the worship of only Aldmeri kings was denying the divinity inherent in all mer, and when he chose to leave Aldmeris with his followers, Trinimac barred his way, and was devoured by Boethiah, who spoke the Tri-angled Truth to Veloth. In another, Veloth was deceived by Boethiah and then became a preacher, and was exiled from Aldmeris. King Gortwog believed that Malacath was a demonic creation of Boethiah who kept the "real" Trinimac imprisoned, and that Malacath was nothing but a deceiver who attempts to keep the orcs spurned, ostracized, and under his control.
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>>722667478
You already posted this and we didn't read it then either.
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>>722666553
god I love rubbable elf ears
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>>722658396
They have naturally selected brat genes that promotes breeding through brat punishment.
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>>722664948
Elves deserved death.
"elves, Japan" owe me sex.
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>>722660417
I MUST nibble her ears sexually.
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>>722663696
jej
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>>722666428
Best way to understand myths in TES is that they are generally a kind of metaphor.
Trinimac is the strong war god of the elves and vanquisher of Lorkhan, he represents ancient elven power at is zenith, when they were all united as one. He is invincible in battle but he is defeated by the clever youth boethiah through deceit who then begins preaching under the guise of Trinimac and spat on everything Trinimac once stood for, inspiring the Velothi exodus.
Reading between the lines you can kind of get a better understanding of what the Velothi exodus actually was and its implications for the Dunmer and Altmer. The Velothi movement likely began as a hidden insurrection of discontented youth among the Altmer who waited for the most advantageous opportunity to strike at their perceived oppressors and spawned an entire dissident movement that was apparently such a traumatic blow to the Elven society that Trinimac, their “strong god,” was destroyed and has never been able to recover his former glory since.
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>>722666026
Deedlit?
When Pirotess is right there?
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>>722666026
>Deedlit
this elf has caused permanent changes to the japanese male psyche
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>>722668963
elves are so powerful
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>>722668682
Trinimac is real though. Malacath exists
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>>722669312
Elf thighs erotic
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>>722663057
>filthy human, you have rope, what are you waiting for?
>I'm here, ready
>Show me what a filthy beast you are
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>>722668963
Even the Shadow over Mystara elf Lucia is just Deedlit.
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>>722669491
Forgot the picture.
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>>722664527
Is Elder scrolls lore just some cheap copied version of Gnosticism ?
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>>722664613
Most people don't even know Warhammer nowadays so I can see why they are more appreciable of elves, instead of realising they are slaves to their sexual deviancy to the point where it is destroying the universe.
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>>722665093
I think white people push this shit the most with warhammer, so this post is nonsense.
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>fantasy race specifically written to be pretentious
>"why are they so pretentious?"

The inferiority complex you feel is quite literally the answer the writer WANTS you to experience.
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There's a reason why beings are mad about elves, including other elves.
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>>722668824
Piro mating press
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>>722658396
>tallest player race
>heights are set by .setscale
>high elves have the biggest tits and dicks
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>>722658396
because they fucking are, you fucking Humans
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>>722665093
"white people are tree huggers obsessed with nature"
Stopped reading there. For this comparison to work there'd have to be many factions of elves with different ideals clashing, and at least on of those factions is obsessed with science and industry.
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>>722659060
>manlet's impotent rage because he didn't invent gunpowder like he likes to tell everyone
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Dark elf women + white hair >>>
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>>722669751
This is why white people have got nothing on elves. White people are generally pathetic and human feeling. Elves transcend that to the point of complete obnoxiousness and an inability to sympathise with other races.
Oh wait, white people are generally like that too nowadays.
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>>722669901
>"white people are tree huggers obsessed with nature"
White people are obsessed with industry and purging xenos or themselves. They're more like intelligent orcs or africans.
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>>722669963
Human's greatest strengths is their handicaps of short lives and limited senses, it's more challenging and can reach greater heights easily by overcoming these limitabilities
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>>722670132
>limitabilities
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>>722668824
>>722669789
Pirotess was my first character I made in a MUD then roleplayed sex with at the age of 15 when I didn't know what sex was and just made it up as I went
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>>722670045
They're just so hate-fuckable. Like they're begging for it.
White people are fucking pathetic chimps in comparison.
If anything, they're more like nips.
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>>722670639
Why do you keep mentioning white people specifically? Is this some autistic fixation of yours?
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>>722670561
Based and hopefully not red pilled
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>>722670745
Elves are obsessed with and mald over humans
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>>722670745
Absolutely. The parallels are obvious and funny.
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A little girl (a niece) said I had elf ears once.
Never have I seethed more than that moment.

She's definitely my niece given that statement though. kek
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dwarflets mad the thread
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I'm posting it again
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>>722668824
>>722669312
everyone deserves a deedlit and pirotess wife duo
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>>722671364
May we all be so blessed
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>>722661910
what does that mean?
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can elves be redheaded or should they be blonde?
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>>722671354
I don't get it.
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>>722672023
based on another comic where the author realizes they were just a moody little shit and nobody was ruining her childhood
but now its about elf racism
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>>722671354
This sums them up too well.
Why do we like psychopathic elves so much?
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>>722668312
That's a fairy.
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They look down on us
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>>722671912
Blonde or white normally.
But I like red or pale purple.
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>>722659353
They could of had a pretty good hidden Empire if the Dwemer didn't force feed them blinding shrooms just for the fuck of it. Seriously, the Dwemer just zero-summing is a mercy compared to what they deserved to happen to them.
Fuck the Dwemer.
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>>722658396
>Some Helf thott talked shit to me at the college
>FUS RO DAH her ass off the broken bridge
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>>722672257
In Australia, all white people are like that red head only they're secretly part black themselves.
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>Lodosstards
Now that's when you know you're dealing with the mentally impaired.
610.
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>>722666153
>Ends the future of their entire craftworld because their dumb vision quest said so.
Farseers everybody!
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>>722672595
>get high
>muh vision
>whole world destroyed
stoners, everyone
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>>722658396
>Fund their little clothing store
>Now both sisters suck my Breton BVLL cock on the regular
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>>722671912
i like the redhead elf with freckles all over in bg3
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>>722672257
I think they deserve a public embarrassment or two because of it.
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>>722672651
To be fair, that's probably what happened during their fall. Some artisan smoked bad crystal kush and had the worst psychic trip known to all. And then shared it with everyone else like a retard.
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>>722672837
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>>722672595
>Ends the future of their entire craftworld
They keep fighting on even in their fucked up multi-craftworld, just another reason to like them. No one else in 40k has as much Will and optimism.
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>>722659353
>watched their brothers from across the way go from Elderwood to Atmora in real time from a bunch of hopped up snownigs genociding them
>continue to watch boatloads of these fuckers wash over through the Sea of Ghosts to land on your shores
>try to snipe them out for stumbling upon the eye of a turncoat god who tore ass through reality trying to get away from being calcified into the world like Lorkhan and co
>end up getting the Mongolian royal treatment with holes and stone totems bearing the faces of hostile deities
TES prehistory is the gift that just keeps on giving.
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>>722673056
>will and optimism
>implying
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>>722673056
>Continues to fuck up and learn nothing from their mistakes
Yeah, sounds like the Eldar. Then again, that sounds like pretty much everyone in 40Gay.
>>722672973
Not my fault Eldar Seth Rogen doomed everyone.
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>>722669423
I didn’t necessarily say he wasn’t, but this is delving into the abstract shit where things become kind of hard to place. “Real” in TES is kind of a fragile poorly defined thing. Gods and myths act beyond what is real in the setting
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>>722671354
Femcel girlfailure elf version of goob?
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>>722673509
wow
that does look like a great time
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>>722669569
>just
No, but that is part of it. ES lore also takes a lot of stuff from Buddhism, the CHIM stuff especially.
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>>722673509
right, I forgot
>>722673541
>>Continues to fuck up and learn nothing from their mistakes
They went back to simply killing shit which is what they are actually good at. So I'd say they learnt something here
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>>722664527
So, Trinimac is a wannabe Buddha?
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>>722659236
Kratosposting is getting to me.
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>>722666489
We'd have to kneel to say it to your runt ass face.
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>>722659236
Bettermanbros.....
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>>722666489
>what? we cant hear you from down there
lol lmao
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>>722673946
>>722674053
the samefagging is getting old
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>>722670639
Nips wish elves were them
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>>722661742
>that one piss skinned stazi that will help you out at the Thalmor party by causing a distraction
He was a good lad
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>>722673841
I mean almost everybody in 40K is good at killing shit. So it's not exactly an outstanding achievement.
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>>722674336
they are among the bestest and uniquely determined
>Oy vey remember 10 spesh mehreen chapters turned into soap
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>>722661275
>Tolkiien, had to give them some severe drawbacks so everyone else can have at least a chance.
except Tolkein didn't. his elves are basically gods. they ruled the world until they got bored of it and left.
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>>722674945
>shhhh. wife #1 is sleeping
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>>722674945
sleep tight elf wife
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>>722674978
That's broadly correct but you're leaving out the multiple internecine kinslayings and the disastrous wars against Sauron and Morgoth. They were bloodied badly before they decided to abandon Middle-Earth.
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>>722674945
what do you call this artstyle?
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elves makes everything better
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>>722675558
Nah Helga is superior
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>>722675679
consider Helga (elf)
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>>722675558
Atlanteans and Hyperborea in general predate the elves by several orders of magnitude. Knife ears wished they could match the martial prowess of the old world.
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>>722674815
>Not the green boys or the reality warping space egyptians.
I think we can all agree that the spess mehreens deserve a benching once in a while though. As a treat.
>Also Eldar getting to win ever lmao.
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>>722670045
>instant loss imminent
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>>722675449
urotikosoji-era
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>>722664558
>>722665760
>>722665912
>>722666310
The race of the child is "mostly" relied on by the mother
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After Gailen, Talos Stormcrown, ascended, his son Martin Draconic took his place and waged war against the false gods of the Tribunal. He conquered most of Morrowind and ruled for nearly a hundred years before his great grandoson Damian came of age. And, like every previous Draconic sorcerer of unbridled power, he abdicated. For everyone knew what Damian was. The blood of Reman flowed in Gailen's veins. Damian, however, was blessed with far more than any that came before.

"Father was still stronger than you," Martin commented, eyes fixated on the heart behind the three so called gods. "They brought him here and only kept themselves from being destroyed by telling him everything about that."

Archmage Salazar, last surviving and still living son of Lionel after nearly four hundred years, was focused only on the three. "Eternity will never be in the grasp of those who could only have power outside of themselves."

"Death has finally come." Salazar the Apostate, far having abandoned his flesh, shook his bones in laughter. "Did you expect your deceit to continue forever?"

"Joor Zah Frul!" Those were the only words Damian spoke, tearing them of their ill-gotten divinity forever with a shout lost to time and reclaimed through a being as old as its beginning.

Eternity awaited and there was still much of Tamriel to unite
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>>722675836
Orkz and Necrons are very reliant on their insane numbers and they feel more like some kind of force of nature... Biel-Tan has that elite force feel
>>Also Eldar getting to win ever lmao.
Biel-Tan is good because they win, sometimes. They should cease attacking mon-keigh for a while and force their ways on other craftworlds
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>>722676752
It's whatever.
Power scaling in 40Kek is dumb anyway. If you like the space elves, then more power to you.
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>>722676917
Is this powerscaling? It's true Necrons and Orkz would probably wipe them out in a full head on conflict, but they just don't operate that way. First and foremost I admire the spirit
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>>722665093
the internet was a mistake
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>>722677447
Orkz have canonically won the fight by virtue of colonizing portions of space beyond the Milky Way. If you take the pirate radio transmissions received that could be potentially millions of year old by the time you hear them.
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>>722659236
where can I see more of this, tesg?
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>>722671354
>My human crush didnt reciprocate my feelings
>Alinor has fallen
>Billions must die
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>>722664792
Bretons are still Men and not Mer

though manmer is a common slur used against them
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>>722659108
>https://vocaroo.com/1bzCpozyFrDB
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>>722658396
because we are
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>>722659108
>>722680962
>ywn be a Druchii's Human love-slave
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>humans have to squat in elf ruins and beg gods for divine aid when elves btfo them in any war
>human empire is built using an elf godmech's nuking powers
>native human religions phased out so they can syncretise with elves more
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>>722679340
I don't know anybody has uploaded my pics specifically there, if you want more of the same face there's Woe
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>>722668824
>>722669789
people think mind flayer sex is novel when this bitch fucked a gibbering mouther 20 years ago.
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>>722659108
>never ask a human supremacist what the race of his beloved wife is
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>>722673749
...but why are they supposed to stay naked?
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>>722661367
>They don't have "flesh gardens" or turn people's corpses into works of "art".
Unrelated, but I find there's something beautiful and poetic about the idea of flesh gardens. I can imagine the beautiful garden with all sorts of flowers, while a powerful Ayleid cuts open a nedic man and spreads his guts all over the garden.
The Ayleids were fascinating.
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>>722682416
Pirotess is pure and would never do such a thing
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>>722659108
>tfw no Dreadfu gf
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>>722664613
It's a pendulum swinging like a lot of cultural tropes or whatever.
It used to be elves were all noble and admirable. To subvert that, people made their elves shitty assholes. People got tired of that and yearned for the classic, nostalgic vibe so they went back to being heroic.
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>>722659108
>>722680962
>>722681807
>Druchii/Drukhari S/O who acts all 'edgy BDSM enthusiast who wants to rape and torture you' but folds the minute you give the slightest amount of pushback.
I'm still laughing at the people who humoured Marazhai.
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>>722675558
>>722675679
>>722675726
This elven mercenary got me actin' unwise.
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>>722683332
>I can imagine the beautiful garden with all sorts of flowers, while a powerful Ayleid cuts open a nedic man and spreads his guts all over the garden.
I always chalked it up as the equivalent of cutting open a hare before suspending it in a clearbox with embalming fluid. So you can see the internals. The difference here is the nede is still alive and his guts is being held together with illusion school magic ala force telekinesis via a pair of soul stones on either side. Think of that one off sequence from Genocyber with the dude splayed out on a bed before it cuts to black. And now apply that at scale with the warring city states of the Aylieds.

There is a reason why Whitestrake hated these cunts with a burning passion because the future he came from took these art displays to the societal level. Hagia Sophia if it were covered in the beating hearts of 1 and 19 more thousand slaves all screaming in unison. Like an organized attempt at shifting the surrounding landscape with a forced choir engaging in a civil project backed by tonal architecture. The White Gold Tower being a reality anchor would be drenched in just as much suffering. Enough to give Lorkhan and company a bad case of MDS just from catching a glimpse of it from orbit.
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>>722685803
>The White Gold Tower being a reality anchor would be drenched in just as much suffering.
Fascinating.
I wondered what was the end goal of the Ayleids, their pre-Meretic secrets were lost, but they knew things other Aldmer forgot. A wheel inside a wheel.
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>>722658396
They are. That's the point of them
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>>722686383
Ayleids were just turbo sadists that loved fucking with the local human populace because they sucked shit at doing war. But they weren't the only ones living around what's essentially a spoke upon the wheel of the world. Bosmer have their own version located in the heart of Valenwood. That one is a massive world tree born out of a small acorn planted by their patron god. It's why they get so batshit insane about the hippie antics because their entire existence is based around the preservation of that very lifeline. You burn down the right tree and that part of the world will sink into the void.
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>>722669312
Hmm why are her knees red
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>>722664558
That isn't true you retard. They retain some traits from the father.
Read racial phylogeny you dumb lorelet.
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>>722658396
They were here first
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>>722687082
>because they sucked shit at doing war.
Not exactly, their behaviour went from Aldmer elitism to degenerate sadism, something not all Ayleids approved. The nedic vs ayleid conflict was also a civil war, with the more reserved and good nature Ayleids helping the humans against their tyranic brothers.
I think their sadism was related to their own philosophical vision of the world, the old elhnofey forms were gone and now they had defined forms.
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Because in the setting they take place in they generally are
>Either immortal or live for thousands of years
>Perfect health at all times
>Long lives allow them to cultivate wisdom more than any other race
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elves would be online calling you all subhumans
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>>722687720
>Not exactly, their behaviour went from Aldmer elitism to degenerate sadism, something not all Ayleids approved. The nedic vs ayleid conflict was also a civil war, with the more reserved and good nature Ayleids helping the humans against their tyranic brothers.
That did end up biting them in the ass over the long game once a certain monkey man got involved. The last king of Nenalata didn't realize how borked things were about to get when the Alessian inner circle started looking for ways to purge elven influence out of the collective consciousness. Beyond surface level details like scrubbing the old temples of their generation spanning gore fests and adopting new naming conventions. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place for sure but the last few thousand years worth of misery that was wrought wouldn't be forgiven so easily.
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>>722689685
subelves maybe, I'm literally a human
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>>722689685
No Khajiit ever called me nyagga
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>>722689685
Knife-ears are just jealous because they haven't had sex in over 500 years.
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>Fictional Tsun race
>They look attractive due to 2D and can show dere (because its fiction)

In reality these cunts would show no love whatsoever for you and just wish you the worst, no wonder people are racist against them
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reminder that Tolkien himself endorsed HMEF (human male elf female) pairing in his works
you can just imagine incelves coping and seething on ardachan about not being able to compete with big human cock and High Kong Elessar appropriating their culture while appropriating Arwen's pussy
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>>722658396
shor did nothing wrong
total elf death
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>>722689693
>That did end up biting them in the ass over the long game once a certain monkey man got involved.
Yeah, makes you wonder if they regretted supporting the nedics. Some ayleids were cruel, but Marukh and his order broke the dragon and the cosmic order.
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>>722669423
Trinimac is Malacath. It's akin to the same bullshit that happens with Sheogorath and Jyggy. In the novel Lord of Souls, Malacath even comments on it. TES gods also have strange qualities like how gods take on different names and forms for the Khajiit and Wood Elves.
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>>722682416
Being a monsterfucker is part of why she's awesome.
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Really depends on the setting.
Elder scrolls/Warhammer elves are scum and should be wiped out of existence.
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>>722689685
I'm a dunmer
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>>722692420
The greatest hero of TES is a Mer
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>>722692812
and who is he saving the world from? elves
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>>722692930
Good point
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>>722664613
HFYfags got too uppity and people remembered that Tolkien was based
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>>722692930
lorkhan
divinity itself is the issue
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>>722664613
I was always pro-Mer
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>>722693114
Yeah that's right. Nerevar had to get rid of the Heart of Lorkhan to save Mundus.
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>>722691054
There are female human male elf pairings too though
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>>722691054
there are like 3 recorded in his gorillion year history
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>>722692812
The Nerevarine is an Imperial, ash-skin.
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>>722693417
He may be a cyrodill
but his name aint quintus
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>>722664792
what about foresworn?
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>>722693610
>Dune ripoff
>thinking the Nerevarine isn't a Man who went native
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>>722658396
teset
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>>722693610
>>722693727
The Nerevarine was most likely a imperial dunmer living in Cheydinhal. If I had to guess, I would say his original profession was that one of a thief or low level crook
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>>722692812
>needed mystic nonsense to get the job done
>meanwhile the Hero of Kvatch solo'd an entire daedric invasion
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>>722667450
>I’ll take Elder scrolls high functioning sociopaths
A high-functioning sociopath is just a psychopath. Should have just said "high-functioning psychopath."
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>>722665246
>Take a (literally) white character
>Make her brown
Fuck off.
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Do they look like that because they got fucked alongside Trinimac or do they look like that because it is not such a great idea to live in isolated communities and only allow one dude to send his genes into the next generation?
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>>722670132
>>722670259
He's overcoming one of them right there.
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>>722694537
they look like that because they're the spawn of the poop god
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>>722675558
Fuck sea niggers.
>>722685358
Fuck Helga (sexually.)
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>>722658396
Because they're white. You can't understand this, since you're brown (american).
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>>722694662
Why was it green poop? Was he eating baby food?
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>>722665093
You are correct and the other anons are ignorant(and/or brown)
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>>722672257
W-why are they holding her down? What are they going to do to her?
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>>722661129
it was OVER for them before it even truly began friend
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>>722694716
>since you're brown (american).
>Muh Americans
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>>722694537
i'd have a female orc rape me
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>>722694439
Saati is blue thoughbeight
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>>722664792
Still humans.
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>>722695043
You're right and I'm retarded, but that doesn't make you right.
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Need more playable evil elves
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>ywn be shit talked by a high elf whilst getting a reach around handjob
why live
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>>722695006
You're brown.
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>>722695226
Post your skin, faggot.
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>>722695226
You will never be an elf noldorfag.
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>>722695131
breed Thayla.
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>>722695856
lame looking, urban elves should look like this
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>>722695856
>mana vape
I like the idea that urban elves have to medicate due to being separated from magical forests. It would be less like amoking and more like magical diabetes though.
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>>722696027
stay in your containment thread durgesh
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>>722695481
Yep, you're definitely brown.
>>722695545
>t. ameridalit
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>>722696237
>Yep, you're definitely brown.
Then I'll do it first, dickhead.
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>>722659236
That's a male elf.
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>>722696567
Where in iraq do you come from?
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>>722697141
That's not even clever. I'm not sure why I expected better.

I will now roll a nationality check and assume you're British. You can deny it, just like you deny being right but that's just the impression that I get.
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>>722697113
No idea where you got that from but no?
https://litter.catbox.moe/t1e2dqp3tymaj18a.png
Also the modlist was never finished so the skin is not exactly how I want it to look
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>>722662952
>Longer Lived

Interestingly, this isn't inherently an advantage and well written media often reflects that. Has anyone seen the movie Gattaca with Ethan Hawke? Great movie about how genetically engineered "superior" humans aren't motivated to exceed the role they were engineered for, so normal humans can end up surpassing them when they have the ambition too.

Likewise, big as long lived as elves are would give them a completely different perspective on the world, which good writing reflects. Elves are often removed from the day to day affairs of the world, and aren't motivated to accomplish things in a short lifespan like humans are. For someone living thousands of years, why build a castle you'll live to see crumble? Meanwhile humans are desperate to make their short lives mean something, which leads to them accomplishing great things.
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>>722691054
>Chris my son.....
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>>722697294
*me being white
Durr hurr.
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>>722696567
>giving the gorilla marketers more hands to play around with
Grim
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>>722697986
Gorilla?
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>>722661129
I love that one retarded companion, I can't remember his name it's been 15 years, but he describes this weapon in the most memorable dialogue in the game to me:
>He used it to kill all the elves. But not all of em, cause some of em are still here
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i love skyrim bros...
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>>722698916
That sounds like something Farkus would say. Him and Lydia are cut from the same stone when it comes to filling out the hole where their brains should be.
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Stop wanking to elves.
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>>722699285
no, I don't think I will.
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>>722699404
Build for the BVLL of Ostland.
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>>722699285
Stop making them so sexy.
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>>722658396
because they "are"... totally not anything (((familliar)))
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>>722664613
Elf hatred is a meme from the reddit era, hatred for what is beautiful propagated by short, fat, ugly, bearded men, in other words redditors.
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>>722699285
Can I start stabbing elves instead?
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>>722700876
I like elf hating as a meme, elf love as a meme, and unironic elf hate and love. What am I?
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>>722701584
self-loathing orc
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>>722702017
Orcs aren't real, Anon.
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>>722701584
A man of sufficient tastes.
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>>722697620
>Elves are often removed from the day to day affairs of the world, and aren't motivated to accomplish things in a short lifespan like humans are. For someone living thousands of years, why build a castle you'll live to see crumble?
I hate this fucking meme. Just because you're long lived, doesn't mean your IQ should drop by 100 points.
You don't build a castle or a fortress because it looks cool. You build them because they're areas of denial that can stall enemy armies by months in a war.
Likewise, an Elf isn't gonna spend a century writing a book or drawing an art piece. Yet in Fantasy, you'll often see them doing nonsense like this because "days feel like minutes to them" or some other bullshit. Fucking lol. If the Elf isn't mentally challenged, then they should be finishing their art in the same amount of time as a normal, passionate human artist...if not FASTER because they have CENTURIES of life experience to draw from. Because get this, when you have EXPERIENCE, you can do things FASTER and more EFFICIENTLY.
If Elves were taken to their logical conclusion as nigh immortal, godlike creatures blessed with an affinity towards magic, then humans literally wouldn't be able to complete. It would be the difference between Heaven and Earth. Elves would be like the Xeelee Sequence, an incomprehensibly powerful alien race that humans could neither comprehend or challenge in any meaningful way.
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>>722702550
>Elves would be like the Xeelee Sequence
*Elves would be like the Xelee in the Xelee Sequence
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>>722671354
Elves can really be the worst of incels.
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Little me wasn't ready for Kingdom Under Fire elves...
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>>722702550
But what if elves were inherently melancholic by nature
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>>722694537
The true answer is that TES is an idealist world (in the ontological sense) and that the followers of Trinimac rubbed themselves in the essence of rejection brought by honesty they changed their nymics and thus forms aswell
also this >>722694662
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>>722704853
>But what if elves were inherently melancholic by nature
Even if Elves were inherently sad or depressed, they'd still be unfathomably more advanced and talented then humans. You can't compare a race that lives for hundreds, or even thousands of years, to humanity. Humanity quite literally cannot compete.
Early TES Lore even understood this considering it took literal divine intervention and a demigod from the future for humanity to be free from the bondage of Elven slavery.
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>>722658396
>literally descendants of the divines themselves
>meanwhile h*mans only exist because lorkhan the trickster wanted to fuck over his fellow et'ada for good
extermination of humans should be every mer's #1 priority. the thalmor did nothing wrong.
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>>722705247
Tolkien also understood this. Elf-lords were capable of going toe-to-toe with Literal Satan. They've diminished by Lord of the Rings because successive wars with Morgoth and Sauron decimated their populations and they have an "out" - they can always say "screw Middle Earth, I'm going to heaven" and just leave.
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>>722704853
>But what if elves were inherently melancholic by nature
Then you get Dragon Age Elves, arguably one of the most pitiful and abused Elf variants in fiction
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I know if I lived 1,200 years, I'd still be fucking useless.
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>>722664613
>Basically every game setting I’ve seen has evil ass elves in some way
Name 5
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>>722705808
Rogue Trader (Elder, Dark Eldar)
Total War Warhammer 1-3 (Dark Elves)
Skyrim (Thalmor)
Morrowind (the Dunmer, the Tribunal, Dagoth Ur)
Oblivion (the leader of the Mythic Cult that kills the Emperor and tries to usher in the apocalypse)
Baldur's Gate II (Irenicus and the Drow)
Baldur's Gate III (Minthara and the Drow)
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>>722705405
Kyne, Stendarr, Zenithar and Dibella all sided with CHADkhan. Sorry, Mershits, but the Aedra prefer Men.
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>>722702550
we do see that in TES. elven mages who can reach near divine power levels because they spent centuries honing their magical abilities. alas even among mer some will have more talent for it than others. on the other hand, a mer who spends all his life farming isn't going to be a demigod ever.
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>>722706381
The Dunmer are fairly interesting, morally, because they adhere to a primitive morality based on the supremacy of the corporate family rather than just being evil for the sake of evil. I feel like Dunmer morality would be perfectly comprehensible and legible to, say, Rome in the era of its kings.
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>>722706536
>we do see that in TES.
Not really, no. On a surface level maybe, but not if it was taken to its logical conclusion. You yourself even admit that some train themselves to literal godlike levels of power, and yet, humans are still on top, and the Elven Kingdoms are still under the command of the human Empire.
This made sense in the past when humanity had shit like the Numinidum and Tonal Magic to balance the scales, but humans in modern TES don't have those abilities. Yet in settings like Morrowind and Oblivion, the Elves aren't the dominant power of the world. It simply doesn't make sense.
No, I'm not stating every Elf will be some godlike ubermetsch. But the average elf would greatly trump a human through the centuries of experience they have alone. And the elves that actually applied themselves would be gods that humans would've even be able to challenge unless the gods themselves intervened.
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>>722705405
>Anu became the standard template for all things Mer
>Padomay took up the mantle for aspects of change ala chaos
>Lorkhan an small figment of Pado gathers all representatives of the given kalpa to manifest a world to anchor themselves to
>at any point their given reality can collapse because their relatively petty squabbles are the subject to the whims of a sleeping god
Spooky
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>>722705462
Failguard declared them responsible for starting every bad thing in Thedas so hating on them in that setting is acceptable.
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>>722705247
>Early TES Lore even understood this considering it took literal divine intervention and a demigod from the future for humanity to be free from the bondage of Elven slavery.
you could argue that a major factor of elven domination in the early days of tamriel was that elves were already organized in to kingdoms and larger societies while humans were just spread around in smaller tribes, making them easy pickings. with the human population exponentially increasing in size, they're already a huge problem just because of their numbers.
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>>722706435
>bird bitch
>pussy
>jew
>whore
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>>722706536
>Dunmer spends literal centuries cracking rocks for pennies
>gets so good at his job that he doesn't bother ascending above the status of a common laborer
>can instinctivly point out the value of a given rock based on pure animal instinct
An elf that has spend a few lifetimes growing potatoes must be a good farmer if they're still scratching around in the dirt. That or they aren't a total asshole that has been driven out by all manner of excuses that would come from living in a bumfuck town.
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>>722707185
>faggot
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>>722706887
And what you say is what's happening. Human dominance over the elves is a historical aberration. It lasted, firstly, for the Alessian Rebellion, and that was partly due to a civil war between elves and divine intervention. The next period of human dominance was the Reman Empire, and even then they were unable to conquer Summerset and Morrowind. The third period of human domination was a brief four-hundred year period that was brought about by, again, multiple flavors of divine intervention. The games are set in the rare periods of human dominance. Even by Skyrim it's clear that the age of human rule over Tamriel is over.
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>>722706381
Rogue Trader everyone's evil
Warhammer, the setting where 55% of the memes actually came from
ELder scrollsdoes anyone care about that setting anymore? Like 76 and starfield have obliterated ES stonks
DnD the other 35% of the memes come from

Alos people didn't hate elves because they were evil it's because;
they were overpowered mary sues and most modern stories are poorly written HFY where humans everything by author fiat
they were annoyingly preachy which is again handled by HFY wank where everything is done by humans
they were used for weird cringey roleplay, which is taken up by dragonkin and what the fuck ever else DnD has added
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>>722707313
>One of the Remans sends a failed expedition into Akavir
>can't even get off the beach without getting strafed by wild thunder storms
>goes back home and gets subverted by a snakeman and his gaggle of resident weebs
The real power is in the far east not with the knife ears.
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>>722706435
makes me wonder if, at any point, it would be possibly for auriel, chief god of mer, to go toe-to-toe with lorkhan. even if it would be just creating some sort of dark trinimac whose only purpose is to snuff out lorkhan's creatures aka humans. kinda like a reverse pelinal.
>Auriel could not save Altmora, the Elder Wood, and it was lost to Men. They were chased south and east to Old Ehlnofey, and Lorkhan was close behind. He shattered that land into many. Finally Trinimac, Auriel's greatest knight, knocked Lorkhan down in front of his army and reached in with more than hands to take his Heart. He was undone. The Men dragged Lorkhan's body away and swore blood vengeance on the heirs of Auriel for all time.

of course, much to mer's chagrin, he could just remain petty and claim that they have to achieve divinity through greatness in life to be worthy of his attentions.
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>>722658396
>why do whiteys always think they're better than everyone?
We'll never know, swarthoid.
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>>722690119
underrated
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>>722706887
>and the Elven Kingdoms are still under the command of the human Empire.
this isn't the case anymore as of the 4th era; but alas, it may be explained by elves wanting to avoid being battered into submission to the point of extinction. mer consider humans to be schizo retards throwing temper tantrums like toddlers, and when a guy like tiber septim appears and starts threatening you with obliteration via divine robot, you don't want to be on his bad side.

it's also pretty practical since it's not like the empire forced a local human ruler onto the elven kingdoms. elves can still do what they want and their elites get to enjoy the benefits of trading with imperial jews.
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>>722661275
And even as far as tolkien was concerned there only drawback was that they didn't give a shit about ruling over the lesser races
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>>722707313
>first human empire is almost immediately coopted by a crazy monkey and his racist cultists who everyone hated
>second empire is soon coopted by a snek sorcerer for hundreds of years
Honestly the human empires were mostly fuck ups
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>>722708053
Auriel and Lorkhan are literally the same entity, it's the grand bullshit as said by Kirkbride. Akatosh and Lorkhan are just two sides of the same two headed dragon
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>>722658396
Elves are more similar to stagnant Imperial China thinking they'll remain on top of the world forever, refusing to evolve, and kneecapping science because it "disrespects tradition"
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>>722708653
The third human empire was also ruled by elves for like a fourth of it. Empress Katariah (a dark elf) and her two sons ruled for around 100 years between the three of them, IIRC, and then at the end the Empire was held together by Potentate Ocato (a high elf).
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Reminder that the second most popular septim emperor was a dark elf woman
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>>722708846
Another thing I find ironic is that the maybe the most significant and laudible achievement of the Third Empire was integrating the orcs, which Tiber himself would be disgusted by, he hated orcs
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>>722708653
>>722708846
what about the reachmen emperors
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>>722660561
Elves live for thousands of years. They literally are the elves that achieved those things.
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Not all elves are evil but all of societies ills can be laid at the foot of an elf.
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>>722708995
That was a brief period between the Reman Empire and the Septim Empire, I think. They didn't really rule much outside the Reach and Cyrodiil, I don't believe.
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>>722708995
They weren't a true empire, didn't have akatosh's blessing. It was a plot point that their emperor wanted to turn himself into a dragonborn
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>>722662528
>when men rule the world there is peace and prosperity for everyone
Fucking kek, the entire reason the first dominion formed was because the altmer noticed how cruel men were to each other and wanted to help them move beyond that.
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>>722708741
>So that he might know himself this way, too, Anu created Auriel, the soul of his soul. Auriel bled through the Aurbis as a new force, called time. With time, various aspects of the Aurbis began to understand their natures and limitations. They took names, like Magnus or Mara or Xen.
>One of these, Lorkhan, was more of a limit than a nature, so he could never last long anywhere.
lorkhan was still the bad egg of the bunch and he and auriel got into a scuffle as soon as mundus materialized because he was the faggot who tricked them all with false promises, then tries to kill what remained of the et'ada/mer by creating and unleashing his humans all over nirn to hunt them down. literal alien invasion tier shit.
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>>722708529
elder scrolls utilizes that, too. from TESO:
>Orcs, Dark Elves, and Men—most of all, Men—are best at war. They have drenched the mainland of Tamriel in rivers of blood. As long as their follies were confined to murdering one another, what they did in and around their so-called "Imperial City" was beneath the notice of the Altmer of Summerset.
orc and dark elves are only mentioned here because of they are members of the ebonheart pact in the game; it's mostly human stupidity and recklessness the altmer seethe over.
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>>722663138
>hahaha no
>muh shalidor
The elves literally have something like five mages who ascended to godhood.
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>>722663138
Cultural achievements as in the greatest city of mankind literally being a squatter camp in the ruins of an elven city.
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>>722675449
anime slop
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>>722666428
Yeah its really complicated. Boethiah being the daedric lord of lies and stife? Doesnt hold any pertinence to our question. Its really up in the air here.
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>>722662952
Remind us what happened when ysgramor and the other atmoran chads decided they had had enough of the knife-ears?

Tell us who started the greatest empire in nirn’s history, huh faggot.
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>>722664613
Tolkien, a much more talented man then anybody on this board and creator of the modern elf, was himself an elf. If its good enough for him its good enough for me.
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>>722702550
>they should be finishing their art in the same amount of time as a normal, passionate human artist...if not FASTER because they have CENTURIES of life experience to draw from. Because get this, when you have EXPERIENCE, you can do things FASTER and more EFFICIENTLY.
Elves in fiction almost never care about efficiency. They care about perfection. Experience brings mastery, and longevity brings patience. They have the ability and time to dedicate themselves to perfecting their crafts.
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>>722709375
>retarded knife-ear faggot
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>>722667698
I read it :) pretty thought provoking
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>>722664948
>elves, japan
Are one of the worst depictions of elves I can imagine.
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>>722708529
They also had a problem with changing times, but that's hardly exclusive to them. In Tolkien mythology, Man is the mortal agent of change, or at least, the mostly good ones.
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>>722669901
>elf hater doesn't know how to greentext
Sad really. As for the "obessed with nature" part. Look at India, Asia, Africa, The middle east. Do they seem to give a fuck about the enviroment they're living in?
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>>722671354
Holy reddit
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>>722664689
I've just recently noticed how wide and thick her head is, the hell is up with that.
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>the thalmor arrive in skyrim
>suddenly there's redguards walking everywhere
>talos worship is illegal
>the apothecaries recommend skooma
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>>722665823
Elves are literally for girls and fags. Everyone that plays them is one of the two.
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>>722686383
>what was the end goal of the Ayleids
To elicit the prisoner. If they cause enough suffering, eventually something had to give, and they could finally break the world free and return to divinity
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>>722677447
Canonically elves, would wipe out the necrons and orcs if given a chance. Its just that they have the major sword of damocles that is slaanesh hanging over their heads at all times.
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>>722709640
Literal lies.
>>722709735
Towers have always existed. They weren't built. They just are.
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>>722711461
The Ayleids probably considered the use of violence on humans amusing but pointless if it didn't had a real purpose.
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>>722705247
It took divine intervention from two gods AND the ayelids being at war with each other but your right.
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>>722706435
>All the trash sided with the lord of trash
Wow. You forgot to mention the daedric princes that sided with him btw.
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>>722709029
Not elder scrolls elves.
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>>722706887
The altmer aren't interested in having direct power over man. They were pretty content keeping to themselves, and even chided the ayelids and dunmer when they went on their quests to the mainlands. Even so, the empire of man abides by there rules. There will be no worship of the false god in empire controlled provinces.
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elves are gay
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>>722705405
>mer can't handle a little bit of divine bants
NGMI
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>>722708808
The elves of elderscrolls are literally more scientifically advanced then men thought. Humans find elven ruins and form cargo cults around them in the setting.
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>>722709029
They are long lived to.
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>>722712223
Dumbass. The Daedric Princes explicitely did not partake in Lorkhan's "Creation of Nirn" ritual.
Their whole schtick is being Not-Ancestor. Sure, they might align with Lorkhan, but then we can go down the TriniMalacath rabbithole and end up declaring that Daedra align with Auriel
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>>722711346
>Its the thalmor that forced the empire to claim hammerfell.
Wot

>>722711352
>muh girls and fags
The fae were respected by both men and women for their near godlike nature.
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>>722658396
made for anal
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>>722711718
>Xarxes
>Sotha Sil
>Manimarco
>Syrabane
Gods ascended from mer

>The Towers are a series of natural and artificial structures on Mundus built by both the Aedra and mer that hold power over the world
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>>722658396
We are.
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>>722712862
>divine bants is shackling you to some rock were you will be forced to mingle with the spirits of suffering and destruction for all time
>divine bants is have most of the divinities (good) having there powers stripped and their souls scattered at the hand of a trickster god and his daedric allies
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>>722713598
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>722659060
Kek
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Fuck elves.
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>>722713747
my faggot, that is the only way anything can exist
the entire world is a dream
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>>722713134
The "trinimalacath" rabbit hole as you so put it, is boethiah who aligned herself with lorkhan sneaking up on trinimac and ganking him. Never forget which side boethiah and mephala took in the war.
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>>722713762
>No argument
I wasn't expecting it but I'll accept your concession
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>>722714015
>Th-the entire world is a dream bu-but don't you go unmaking it now be-because I don't know thats illegal or something
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>>722714087
you're mistaking power elves worshipped as gods for actual gods
the closest to actual godhood any of the knife-ears you listed is mannimarco, and he's not even a real god because he can only manifest in a limited way, granting an extremely limited power of turning grand soul gems black

even then, that's just something the ideal masters can also do at any time in their plane of oblivion
are they gods too then?
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>>722714156
It would only make it restart.
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>>722658396
>be older/wiser
>have higher vantage point than the young/immature
what's the issue?
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>>722713747
Just a little bit of tomfoolery to lift the spirits.
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>>722714259
>Are the ideal masters gods
Uh yeah? Also sotha sil isn't a god? Lets not even get onto you claiming the the guys on the altmer pantheon arent gods. Xarxes literally wrote the oghma infinitium.
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>>722714327
>It would only make the dream restard
Forgetting that the dream shit is all conjecture, whats wrong with restarting in a better state?
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i've achieved chim btw
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>>722659060
keep your woke shit out of my fantasy setting
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>>722714490
>Uh yeah?
oh boy
>>722714608
how the fuck would it be better?
all of existence is reliant on lorkhan
akatosh only becomes time and allows events to be possible because of lorkhan's shenanigans
everything would end up being the same
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>>722714748
cope, giga faggot deluxe
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>>722714825
woke piece of shit
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>>722714864
this fantasy world is older than you, tiktok beta
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>>722714774
>oh boy
Is not an answer. Is sotha sil a god? Yes or no?

>>722714774
>existence is reliant on lorkhan
Going to just pretend that the part where the fragments of anu formed their own personalities doesnt exist?
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so why are we getting a dogshit redguard game instead of a game on the akaviri continent
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>>722714965
why don't you go blacken the orcs instead, or is that too "racist" for you?
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>>722714975
>Is not an answer. Is sotha sil a god? Yes or no?
no
the entire point of morrowind is the tribunal aren't actual gods
they siphon power from the heart, lorkhan
>Going to just pretend that the part where the fragments of anu formed their own personalities doesnt exist?
oh you fucking retard
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>>722714650
Never forget that "chim" was taught to vivek by molag bal. The daedric princes have the so called key to escaping the dream but they're still present in the setting. Curious isn't it, almost as if the dream shits all bullshit.
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>>722715078
cope
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>>722715104
Anon, Tiber Septim had chim but he's stuck as Talos.

The Daedra have greater knowledge of existence but can't do anything about it because they're spokes in the wheel
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>>722713417
Which one?
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>>722715094
>They aren't real gods they siphon power from the heart
Kek, your talos manling?

>you're retarded
Did the aedra exist (keyword) as seperate entities before mundus was created? A real simple question with a real simple answer.
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i wish i could erase all eso lore and i wish the wiki stopped using it as reference
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>>722715314
>i wish i could erase all eso lore
What would you have instead?
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>>722715257
>they k-know the answer b-but it just like doesn't work for them
Was vivek a spoke in the wheel to? Why have none of these guys escaped le dream already? Could it be that its all bullshit?
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>>722715224
i knew it, you're a racist only set out to destroy beauty. things that are already ugly you don't bother with.
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>>722715397
lore from the elder scrolls games that aren't eso
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>>722715295
all of them.
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>>722715475
So, a mess?
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>>722715104
>>722715257
Gaps in it, my bad.
You can't escape the facade if you are a fundamental part of it.
>>722715306
>Talos
That just straight up is Lorkhan. He was a shezzarine. Talos was Lorkhan becoming himself again.

Mer and man are elhnofey
it is fundamentally impossible for them to be aedra as it literally means "our ancestors"
it is not a better state of existence as the aedra themselves are more concepts and phenomena than actual beings
>>722715457
You can have knowledge of chim and be incapable of achieving it.
Vivek used the heart of Lorkhan: he lacks his own ability to actually do anything
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>>722714038
Fair enough, that's one perspective. But what makes that the correct view over, say, something like "Boethiah actually freed the followers of Trinimac from the trickster deity Malak/Malacath"?
Rabbithole, due to an unreliable narrator.
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Speaking of Trinimac, Meridia is also not a Daedra
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>>722671354
Imagine being Titus as a legionnaire later, getting captured as a POW during the great war, and getting put into Elenwen's custody for interrogation.
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>>722715697
>talos is a god thats why he can be a god
>Man and mer can never be gods
So whats the point of lorkhans little cage? Werent we supposed to put up with suffering because it allowed us the opportunity to ascend? Or was that all bullshit to try and justify the prison?

>you can have knowledge of chim yet...
The no true chimsman fallacy
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>>722658578
They were basically perfect in Tolkien, except they couldn’t die (even if they died in battle they were reincarnated). In LotR elves were actually jealous of the freedom humans had to die and move on.
So gaygax saw this world, didn’t understand it, and couldn’t comprehend a superior race having humility, so he made them haughty manlets to give them some drawbacks.
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>>722671354
this is stupid but i laughed
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>>722716029
>Man and mer can never be gods
The entire point is to achieve Amaranth: to become a dreamer.
Godhood is a lesser state of being than godhead.
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>>722715863
>Thats one perspective
>but what makes that correct view over say boethiah freeing...
>Boethiah (sometimes spelled Boethia or Boet-hi-Ah),[1] known as the Prince of Plots,[2][3] the Daedra Prince of Cruelty and Torture,[4] the Dark Warrior,[5] Deceiver of Nations, Queen of Shadows, Goddess of Destruction,[6] Hunger,[7] and Fount of Inspiration,[8] He-Who-Destroys and She-Who-Erases[9], Boethiah the Schemer [10], The Dark Mistress[11]
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY
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>>722716176
Malacath has confirmed the story himself
just that it wasn't so literal because being a poo god is embarassing
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>>722716170
Cool. Who has become a dreamer btw? I'll wait as you list the extensive list of people that have managed to achieve this mythically state, which will surely justify the trillions of beings suffering in lorkhans cage for all eternity.
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>>722716232
>malacath confirmed it himself
Would be like sheogorath confirming that he didn't begin as a daedra of order.
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>>722716351
anon, are you going to kill yourself because stubbing your toe hurts?
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>>722716225
they're not actually gone
they're all hiding somewhere just to fuck with yagrum, it was a prank
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>>722716435
>In comes the strawmans
Whats wrong with trying to address errors in reality? Why dont you try and improve in life? Theres nothing wrong with suffering is there? So why do you try in all avenues to minimize the amount of suffering in your own life? Its such a retarded argument.
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>>722660561
That would be an apt metaphor if there weren't plenty of Americans still alive who lived when the USA financed Britain out of bankruptcy.
The USA beat you in war, and the USA saved you from financial collapse.

Wish they didn't, Australia went to shit the moment we let you fuckers buy your way in when you realised that you sent us to a beach resort filled with diamonds, iron, oil, and uranium.
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>>722716646
you're not addressing anything by tearing it down
jesus fucking christ
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>>722716618
I would too, Yagrum Bigbum is a fucking loser.
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>>722716646
That's not a strawman:: that is the logical conclusion of wanting to tear down what makes existence existence because it hurts and sucks sometimes
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>>722716723
>you're not adressing anything by demolishing your prison
>just languish in your own shit for all eternity
This is why elves are the pioneers in the elderscrolls btw. They're the only race trying to address the root cause of all issues instead of resigning themselves to being mudslinging barbarians content in wallowing in their own shit.
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oh, anon is retarded
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>>722716863
>>722716723
>what makes existence existence
Lorkhan didn't create existence, even nord mythology acknowledges that there was something before mundus.

Also isn't the entirety of the chim retardation about escaping existence? Whys it okay then?
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>Tfw no Altmer gf who alternates between Ayleid slave femdom rp and Alessian revolt maledom rape rp
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>>722717016
>if buddhism is about escaping suffering, why not kill yourself?
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Skyrim almost seems comfy despite the myriad of magical and bestiary horrors that'll try to kill you on a daily basis.
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"Due to the devious efforts of [From.GetTitledNameWithNick] in the dismantling of Tamriel's Towers, the liminal barriers that separate Mundus from Oblivion are no more. The Daedra hordes of the [Root.Religion.GetName] flood every town, city, farm, temple and castle, killing and enslaving anyone in sight. Eventually, without any Tower to hold them still, the very fabrics of reality start to decompose, blending Mundus and Oblivion in a continuous psychedelic hellscape. [From.Religion.GetHighGodName] reigns supreme for a mere brief seconds, as the whole concept of existence starts to fade away. You feel your body relax more and more until you can't feel anything at all. Are you dead or are you free?"
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>>722716654
I'm American.
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>>722715954
phew glad I'm not a daedra worshipper
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>>722671354
>You will never be friendzoned by Todd himself
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>>722717921
Todd has brown hair.
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>>722658396
they are and they need to enslave filthy humans like me
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>>722669789
i need her to adopt me
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>>722718207
Calm down, Elenwen.
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>>722718701
I am not a woman and I am not an elf.
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>>722717143
That's why it's the most Reddit TES game.
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>>722719024
>Todd breaking hearts across both genders and all the races
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>>722719183
I'm not big into LIARS.
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>>722719247
Next time it will be different, you just need to buy Skyrim again to make things work this time.
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>>722719535
Manga?
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>>722719538
I only bought it once and for good reason, you little shit.
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>>722719584
boku no pico
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>>722719640
>I only bought it once
No wonder things didn't work out.
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>>722719535
>>722719584
>>722719656
It looks surprisingly interesting after I looked up the character name like a non-retard.

I wish I had a girlfriend who liked martial arts.
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>>722719812
Todd, you should let me make New Vegas 2.
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>>722693212
You were always a faggot
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>>722719950
How about New Vegas 2 barrels on your face
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>>722720056
That'd be fine too. I'm ready, Todd.
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>>722658396
The entirety of TES lore is training you to not flip your shit when you meet the Machine Elves during a DMT trip
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>>722720106
There is salvation for your soul in buying a new copy of Skyrim
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>>722715078
This is the cute elf thread. Why are you asking for BBC/BOC?
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>>722675421
If there is Middle-Earth, does it mean there is Bottom-Earth and Top-Earth?
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>>722714825
I just don't like brown things.
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>>722658396
Because they are better
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>>722720305
i would have complained if he made the elf skin green as well. elves are white.
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>>722720305
>refuse to eat the maggoty bread for free stinkin days more
>intestines stolen
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>humans make up fantasy race in their head
>everyone just makes up random rulings on how they’re perfect or shit without any connection to a setting at all
Ah yes I’ve visualized the ubermensch in my mind and rotated them rapidly, therefore your visualization is retarded and wrong.
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Globalist elites....

Never trust elfs
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>>722721273
>Just because the Ubermensch is rotating, something is wrong
Actually, elves' ability to stay balanced while spinning is part of why they're perfect.
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>>722682840
Magic fulfills all the needs of clothing, warmth, protection. Why bother wearing anything physical when it'll just weigh you down and chafe your skin.
Besides, Elves are beyond such silly concepts like shame in one's natural appearance.
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>>722719535
sauce????
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>>722658396
How are Tolkien tier Elves not outright better than humans though?
>beautiful
>immortal
>innately magical creatures with access to magic
Other than literal God saying lolno I want Humans to win just because, despite the fact I made them inherently weaker, uglier, vastly more prone to suffering etc.
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>>722715574
Even the men?
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>>722722078
Especially the men!
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>>722722383
That's pretty gay, dude.
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>>722658396
Elves are gay and cringe because they fucked up harder than humans ever did yet they think they're still better than us because of racism. I mean yeah you got the Shitmer and elves are obviously better than the dumb dogshit (literally) followers of Trinimac but that's such a low bar come on man you have two working legs stop stealing all the gold medals at the special olympics
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>>722721695
Because there’s no point to them. They’re barely even elves, just perfect little robotic angel people that are content to sit somewhere and do nothing for eternity unless pushed by some outside force. It’s why they all leave middle earth, because it’s changing and they simply weren’t made for change, just to be perfect little statues that sit there forever in their garden of Eden.
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>>722722664
makes you wonder what the point of it all was
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The conquest of Black Marsh was of little note to Morvan. His words about the Argonians themselves are the only records that remain of their existence.

"Their women are tight enough where it counts. Nothing at all too look at unless you're into reptiles."
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>>722721695
Tolkien elves are simply better physically and spiritually better, that's their point.
But there's no non-Tolkien game settings witch such unbalanced races.
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>>722723185
>Nothing at all too look at unless you're into reptiles
I am.
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>>722723340
eww
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>>722723374
Sorry.
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Elsweyr fell easily to the Reachmen. Morvan had very little to say about the strange cat people.

"The little ones can use magic. And the big ones ride even bigger ones. Their women are grateful we lack barbs. Their worship revolved around the moons. And I thought the elves were mad."
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>>722723167
The point was the adventure, enjoying life while you can, not hoping for an eternity or an end, that sort of stuff. Also nature, mostly nature, Tolkien really fuckin loves him some trees. My one crossover wish would be him getting into the same room as Lovecraft just to see the absolute chimp out from both of them.
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>>722723602
Giger would be in the corner fucking a replica of an ent with corrupted flesh-bark
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>>722723602
>My one crossover wish would be him getting into the same room as Lovecraft just to see the absolute chimp out from both of them.
I'd pay to see that.
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>>722721695
if you ever read anything Tolkien wrote you'd have known that elves are to blame for everything that happened and constantly shifted the blame on humans who had to save them
humans were stronger than them, quote literally superhuman, also had long lifespans, created much more powerful civilization, the mere threat of their intervention was enough for sauron to shit himself and run away while he was playing elves like toys
the only reason humans were in worse place than elves is because they didn't get valar sugar daddies to babysit them around and morgoth had free pass on corrupting them from the start
elves get just as easily manipulated by sauron and morgoth as humans do
and humans get to leave the matters of the world with their immortal spirits instead of being physically bound to arda forever, their fate unknown so they might as well fuck their elf slave harems on the afterlife
elves being ubermensch is mostly coming from jackson's elf wankery, elrond can seethe all he wants but elves are to blame for the rings of power and had humans not bailed them sauron would enslave them all
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None were more surprised by the Altmer's sudden capitulation than Morvan himself. He took Eminwe as his prize during Summerset's many attempts to curb the Reachmen's tide. When the lords of Summerset called for her rule, she asked Morvan for permission, promising to swear her allegiance in an effort to prevent the same ravaging she experienced happening to her people. He accepted. Still, he did not respect them at all.

"They're so weak and pathetic. Even now, they don't understand their inbreeding is why magic burns them so easily. Women are easy on the eyes but fight a lot, crying about how they want to keep their blood pure. It's all the same in the end. They'll go the way of the Dunmer soon enough."
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>>722723304
Funniest part of Tolkien elves to me is that they’re a product of favoritism. iLuvitar just showered them in everything ever and damn near obliterated the dwarves because nothing was allowed to show up before his precious little tree people. Can kind of see why Morgoth hated him so much, when your dad won’t let you make a race of your own because they’re his super speshul oc people.
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>>722724164
That's literally not what happened. Iluvatar thought the dwarves were charming. Aule, who created them, was going to destroy them when he felt shame for his impatience and overstepping his place, but Iluvavatar stopped him because he saw the purity and innocence in his act of creation. And he forgave him for his impatience by giving the dwarves proper life and sentience, rather than basically having to be golems that Aule controlled. The only caveat was that they had to stay asleep until after the elves awoke so as to not disrupt the song.

The elves are given a lot because they're Firstborn and expected to be stewards. it's like actual firstborn children. They're given a lot, but also a lot is expected of them. They have a lot of responsibility and they need to be in charge and do the hardest work.
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>>722715976
Basically the plot of “Try Begging Me”
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>>722717089
Because killing yourself is not a method to escape suffering in a religion were you're reborn once you die.



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