It's been a month, you HAVE beaten the game by now right?
>WandererHave you?
>>722663727if by beaten the game you mean act 2, then yes i have
>>722664008Wanderer is far from the strongest thing in the game but how would you know it when you were filtered by the red ants.
>>722663727I got to 96% and cleared act 350 hours, time to stop and wait for expansions
>>722663727I'm at 97% or so :)
>>722663727All achievements as of a couple of weeks ago, Steel Soul sucked ass and the new quest wasn't worth it. Fun game though, I look forward to the boss rush in 10 years.
>you HAVE beaten the game by now right?I cheesed Karmelita today so it's only Verdania and the abyss left
People bitch about Coral Tower a lot but I felt the gauntlets there were pretty easy for something this late in the game, it could have been so much worse
>>722663727Only started today. Had other things to do before.I'm not sure if it's better than hk yet, feels harder at the start at least
>>722663727>you HAVE beaten the game by now right?nope, going really fucking slow. been avoiding every thread involving this game (except ones with cute Sherma pictures), but yesterday i finally killed Groal, made it into the Coral Tower, found Shakra's master and then beat her in a duel. I think I've done everything i need to before I finally move on to Act 3, doing that later today
>>722667313Most of the difficulty comes from not knowing the patterns for all the new enemies. People simply complain whenever they don't beat something instantly.
>>722667313People bitching about the Coral Tower gauntlet probably didn't find the shortcut to skip most of them.
>>722667568You mean the one that isn't available until you've already finished all but one?
>>722667772Anon. Read!
>>722667772Yes. There's no problem beating three gauntlets to get the shortcut. Having to beat four gauntlets over and over just to fight crab king does sound incredibly tedious and annoying.
MAMASHKAA!
Should I go for the second walkthrough? Seems like I've done everything on my first run anyway.
>>722667313i actually really liked the coral tower gauntlet. at first i got my ass beat but i started to breeze through everything since i was so used to fighting them all. wish there was more of a coral map to explore though.
>>722667848>>722667878Most of the people complaining about it are complaining about having to do three gauntlets without a bench, let alone four+boss. You need to actually beat the first three to get the shortcut, so that doesn't help people who haven't beaten the first three in the first place.
>check my favourite website (Reddit)>people are unironically having difficulty in the escape the abyss section
>>722668226I did to, but it only took me 3 or 4 tries.
thoughts? i switch filament for the injector band for bosses that are too fast for me.
>>722668226AI-Hatoor is right
>>722668226I had trouble to, in that it took me about an hour of trying to get it. I can't imagine being stuck for days
>>722668226Reddit sucks and the Abyss ascent was really great and fun
>>722668226>skill issue>just get good>play more games
>>722667338The game is significantly harder than HK but at the same time shitters exaggerate the difficulty way too much. As long as you at least cleared Godhome up to P4 for the 112% completion, Silksong should be comfortably challenging.
>>722668226i thought the volcano escape was cool as fuck. after mount fay, my first platforming gauntlet, i didnt mind the rest since that mountain already forged me
>>722663727I beat it within the first week of it coming out.
>>722663727Yeah, the game wasn't that hard to be honest. I even played the release version from beginning to end without patching it just to get the intended difficulty. Notable walls:Savage niggerfly: because I fought it too early for a crest I never used. Judge: 1st tried it on the second playthrough so clearly I just needed to get good. Groal the great: didn't find the hidden bench and wasted like 2 hours of my life.The high halls gauntlet: can't believe even DSP did it first try, now I feel bad. The lava pit in far fields: Floor is literally lava with tracking 2 mask projectile cancer. A moment to get good with the clawline or get bent. I got bent. Trying to beat Seth at flea dodge: just keep your MEMEnto motherfucker. Lost Lace: Sprinting away only to bump into her for 2 masks of contact damage. Too much black shit on screen, can't see anything. And not a single platforming wall. None. Path of pain remains king.
>>722668554Act 1 is harder than the early part of HK with the intent of forcibly breaking people out of bad habits from other games, but but the rest is easier because the game gives you more to work with. Nothing in Silksong is harder than base Radiance, let alone DLC stuff like NKG and Godhome. You need self-imposed challenges to actually make things harder than HK.
>climb Mt Fay a few times just to see if I missed something>did the delivery as well>zero troubles with the Abyss escape and beat it second try
>>722668881Sure, if you're abusing tool spam with architect or some other busted setup then the game becomes easy. I meant that Silksong is more difficult if you are actually trying to beat it instead of crutching on broken shit to carry you.
>>722669096Thanks for literally proving my point, anon.
>>722663727Three times now, yes. 100%, 4hr run, and steel soul through Act 2 ending.
Once you fill out everything in the Bellhome is that the "real" 100% for your save file? Nothing left to do at all, no hidden bosses or quests? (I'm aware of Ending 3 but I'm locked out of it in this save)
>>722669543Assuming you got all upgrades (masks, nail...) that aren't displayed there, probably?
Second playthrough, trying to get the 100% Speedrun achievement. I'll probably do Steel Soul in a month or two, still have to finish e33 lol
>>722669543Just check the shop lady in bellhart to make sure you didn't miss anything. I Missed the Psalm Cylinder player until I decided to do one more round before closing off my main save.Only other things kinda left unmarked is stuff like Plasmified Zango, minibosses like that.
Contact damage should have a 0.25 second grace period, allowing for Hornet to glance past enemies without passing through them. I believe this would improve the game hugely without compromising its challenge or combat flow. As it is, the player has to constantly be cringing away from an enemy until they learn the little flutters, backsteps, and advances they perform. Modders, please make this.
>>722668348That dude lives in an alterntate reality where "soulslikes" have platforming sections. What fucking platforming sections exist in fucking soulslikes? Is he seriously referencing fromsofts classic drop down a hole onto ledges implemented all the way back in 2-2 as platforming challenges? That's unheard of levels of retarded.
>>722669753Clawline gives enough i-frames that you can dash through most of them as long as they're stationary or moving away from where you're headed. Some pogos like the Beast Crest also give generous i-frames for this.
>>722669543I'd say the real 100% in addition to upgrades is filling out the journal, because that'll give you all the optional bosses that you otherwise won't know about. There's only 7 enemies that don't count to that, and of those 4 are tied to quests, so the only true missables are the duels with Shakra and Garmond (act 2) and the Palestag.
>>722669753Nah, I just think contact damage should always be 1 mask regardless of size or if it's a void enemy. And if the enemy is stunned it should not have a hitbox at all until the stun ends.
>>722663727Been taking it slow and doing other stuff on the side. Im at the end of Act 2, I think (got all 3 melodies), but Im combing through every area to find everything and not potentially miss out on the true ending. I'm trying to do it blind, but I might just cave and look up if Im missing something big so I dont just burn out like I did clearing Hollow Knight.
>>722670157Contact damage being 1 would make Wanderer the prime facetanking choice. Wanderer should be rebalanced in general, but that's not the point.
>>722668881>>722669096>>722669180Flukenest is more busted than anything in Silksong.
>>722670157>I just thinkNo, you don't
>>722668226>watching people do the abyss climb and pogoing off the enemiesIf I've told you once I've told you a thousand times...CLAWLINE!
>>722669806Soulsfags are beyond retarded and apply Dark Souls conventions to everything.>"Platforming" in Dark Souls is bad>Silksong is a soulslike (it's not)>Therefore platforming in Silksong is bad and shouldn't existYou see the same shit with gauntlets. Gank fights against multiple enemies in Dark Souls are annoying and bad, so that makes them bad in Silksong even though you have infinitely more manoeuvrability and tools to deal with them.
>>722663727This game sucks.This game sucks.This game sucks.This game sucks.
>>722670794clawline is a good fail-safe and necessary for shit really far away but I like dashing + floating + pogo because it's more fun
>>722670959dark souls out of absolutely nowhere
>>722671075>indie tranny faggot mindbroken by an actual good gameKek.
>>722671075You're exactly as mindbroken as that anon.
>>722670959>>722671075dead internet theory
>>722670959>Soulslop sucks.>Soulslop sucks.>Soulslop sucks.>Soulslop sucks.I agree anon.
I beat it today. I can safely say I won't ever touch that shit ass crest ever again. Reaper is literally a handicap, worst crest in the game by far.https://files.catbox.moe/u6afaz.webm
>>722671004But if you're actually struggling with that section I guarantee it's because you're not properly utilizing the movement ability that gives you the greatest horizontal range.
>>722671407You're just a shitter. I beat the game with Reaper and didn't struggle any more than normal. You are bad. You suck. You are shit at the game. Stop being bad.
>>722670602Nigger
>>722671407I love Reaper crest.I love Reaper crest.I love Reaper crest.I love Reaper crest.
One man's "this option sucks compared to the alternatives" is another man's "if you used anything else you didn't beat the game."
>>722670602Blow your brains out on camera. I want to watch you die, Soulstranny.
>>722668226>Soulslike have bad platformingHoly fuck. I wish I could go back and erase Dark Souls from tge timeline.>SS is sousllike because it has corspe run uh benches just like bonfires and uhhhh it's le difficult!I fucking hate these retards who think Dark Souls was the first hard game. Nothing and I mean nothing abouth these fucking games is like dark souls.Dark souls was not the first moody game, it was not the first game to have checkpoints, it was not the first game to have a corpse run, and it's not the first hard game.I fucking hate reddit niggers.
>>722671830It IS better than whatever games you're thinking of, howeverbeit.
Silksong is not a metroidvania and it is not a soulslike. It's a hollowlike.
>>722669653Speed Completion is so easy to get. I wasn't even optimal and my final time was still less than half my original time.
>>722671830You don't hate Dark Souls enough
Why is the Bell Beast a speechless mute ? Is she retarded from smashing her head into bells ?
>>722663727I haven't even boughted it yet lol
>>722671530>>722671617Don't get me wrong, I liked it at first, the heavy hitting animations looked appealing at first. After 80 hours though I got tired of the delayed pogos that also push you downwards sometimes ending up with damage taken and a pogo failed, the whiffs trying to hit something above you with the upward attack being shit, the passive that stops working after taking a hit and regens silk too slowly. I would assume that heavy slow attacks would be rewarded with either stronger nail hits or something like that, but no. I beat the whole game with Reaper too, mostly because I was stubborn and mostly because I didn't want to learn the Hunter pogo 50 hours in the playthrough after getting used to Reaper's.
I was taking it slow only playing like 2-3 hours a day, I beat it a few days ago and now I feel empty.
>COMFY thread>filtered shitters are still shitting up the thread
>>722672184Post fleas
>>722671975Because she's a pokemon.
eh GORO
>>722672184Such is the fate of many games on this board. Post your flea scores
>>722672027>I beat the whole game with Reaper tooMy nigga.
>>722671957Fromsoft drones are way more annoying and prevalent than trannies
>>722672607>another retard mindbroken by Peak Souls
>>722671407>Reaper is literally a handicapReally? Why?
>>722672679As if on cue
>>722672365do i have to find all the fleas to unlock this?
>>722671407>4 fucking minutesThat's why I don't like that Crest
>>722672751>no argumentKek as usual
>>722672742Nvm, saw the post
>>722672742Lowest dps >GMSxHornet tentacle porn is coming inTook longer than expected
>>722672803Yes, and once you reach Act 3 you have to get the quest from a wish board
>>722672821What argument is there? Anon called you soulsfaggots annoying and then seconds after the post you start annoying him kek
Why is Lost Lace so ass?>teleports into your dash>input reads>projectile spam
>>722672970>Y-YOU'RE SO ANNOYING BECAUSE YOU LIKE A GAME I DON'T LIKECry me a river, fat boy. Lose weight you fucking pig.
>>722672974Because you're shit lol
Shakra's too fast bro wtf
TROBBIO
>>722673038>seething this much over simply being called annoyingLmao. OP really wasn't lying >>722672974It's ass but if you don't move as much you won't get teleported on. Also like half of her moveset leaves her open
>>722668861>far fields fire cave without double jumpAwful.
>>722672742>Really? Why?Reaper has a 0.8 modifier on attack speed, with no positive boost for that drawback. The passive after a bind is a meme. Hunter has the same tool slots and later gets a 40% nail damage boost as long as you don't get hit, maintaining the 1.0 attack speed modifier.>>722672804Even though Reaper is the worst crest and Wanderer is arguably the best DPS wise, comparing it to Wanderer with Barbed tool is not fair, but nice job for the fight.
>>722673260Only for one attack... sometimes. Then there's the counter stance which she may or may not use. Especially since I'm doing it in hard mode (reaper).
Am I bad, or does the Cradle platforming feel like shit ? Literally reminds me of a 2012 flash game.
>>722672804>even someone like this got tapped by the anti-airWhat a bad move.
>>722673387She's open on>the dive>her counter (using drift cloak checks both options)>her tendril attack (the one that comes from her arm)>that ball spitting move in phase 2
>>722673387Parry is avoidable and punishable even with Reaper
>>722672856i don't have the achievement but i can't see any more on my map. must be blind.
>>722673565No as in one attack from Reaper.>>722673581It is, but the issue is when she whips it out. It's a gamble.
Baby Silk
>>722663727I have not played it and will likely never play it. I tried Hollow Knight twice, and by the 5th hour of the second try of HK I think I realized that I don't like metroidvanias very much. I actually played and beat Super Metroid and Fusion as a kid and liked both. I beat SotN as well. However, I guess I just don't like them now.Wait, why did I even bother posting anyways?
>>722673709
>>722673563I hate it but I also get hit by her regular combo and dash into the charge attack so it's hardly a good showing, the problem is she uses it so rarely that I can never get accustomed to the tell, I feel you have to be a certain distance from her too because I've been hit by it even when dashing away on the floor
>>722673709>>722673801Get your life together anon.
>>722663727Generals belong on >>>/vg/
>bangs on door>NAO>NAO>NAO
>>722663727Is there something hidden on this screen?
>>722673890You gotta take what you can of Silk art. Beggars can't be choosers
>>722674262oh yeah i forgot about that part, does anyone know whats on the otherside?
witchchads where we at
I feel like that dash move should've given some inv frames
>>722674262You'll find out by exploring Greymoor weirdly enough. I don't know why the only hint to that area is through a bell.
>>722674329>>722674262Pretty sure Wisp Thicket is on the otherside.
>>722674262>>722674329That's the big bell where Father of the Flame is housed. It's just supposed to be a hint that something's there if you haven't found Wisp Thicket yet.
>>722674365I'm sure you do Soulsbab
>>722663727Yes, I was going to do the permadeath run but died in the forest immediately after bell town, in a very stupid platforming sectionI yelled eat my farts at the screen and never touched the game again
>>722674365HK isn't a rollslop game you have to actually navigate around attacks
>>722674545?
>>722674408Bruh
>>722663727Instead of doing something kino like colosseum of fools they just copy pasted some bland arenas and you've all been gargling their loads for a month wtf is wrong with you?
>>722674709Tell me. Ys Origin or Ys 8 first? The music I've heard from 8 sounds great, but I wonder if I should start at the "beginning"
>>722674657It's pretty straightforward, I did beat the main game but permadeath run can eat my farts
took a break after reaching act 3 to play hades 2. gonna go back to it.
How the fuck am I so bad at this game compared to hollow knight? I am getting my ass filtered at fucking greymoore. Am I a shitter? Do I have to watch a let’s play to enjoy this game?
>>722674780Go with Origin. I think I enjoyed it more overall because of how focused it is.
>>722674990Hollow Knight was just easier. Easier enemies, easier bosses, easier movesets, easier platforming except PoP)
>>722675009Alright thanks anon, that'll be what I play next
>>722663727>you HAVE beaten the game by now rightI haven't played in a week, Flea juggle unironically filtered me in Act 3
Was this one of the most kino moments in the game?
>>722675142>dies right after
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>722663727No, I got to Lace 2 then started over to save Pilby.
>>722675294>>722674330
>>722675294lol
>>722672687names are bad except for choristersin eater is literally just the grub dude from Hollow Knight but edgyArtillery witch needs a different mask design.Otherwise I like these.
>>722672851please tell me there is more to this image.
only boss I didnt beat
What would a flea look like if you shaved it?
>>722675225>>722675330He's dead by the time Act 3 starts.>But there's no bo-Quirrel is also dead.
>>722668330Use the anklets for increased sprint speed instead of the piton. You're running far more than you're walljumping.
>>722675801>by the time act 3Wdym? He got killed in the beetle attack for me and then piligrims dropped his body down.
>>722675801He's dead? Is it like hardcoded in the files but we haven't found his body
>>722668330The compass is a crutch, stop using it.
>>722675142I learnt his name in Bone Bottom and I never met him again.
Delivery quests but it's literally Hornet football-carrying her favorite pilgrims up to Songclave one at a time. Do it, TC.
>>722675863>>722676269ill switch compass for anklets then
>>722673359>with no positive boost for that drawback.Silk gain. It makes Silk orbs that make it so you have constant healing or output of Silk attacks.Strongest crest is architect. It's Charge attack + flintstone = highest damage in the game.
>>722676403
>>722663727I've been taking a break for like a week or two, I reached coral tower and running attempts makes me sick. Especially running into it after spending so long trying skarrsinger.
>>722676457>Silk gain. It makes Silk orbs that make it so you have constant healing or output of Silk attacks.That's what the guy means by it being a meme, because a) it requires you to bind which means it's hampered by lower attack speed, and b) the extra silk is also hampered by lower attack speed.
>>722673359>with no positive boost for that drawbackHighest range in the game with very good and forgiving pogo. If you combine it with the tool that extends your nail reach, the range is ridiculous. You can attack with it even when you can't with other crests. The heal/extra silk is a bonus if you build for it.
strange family
>>722676079If you avoid the Tyrant attack in Bone Bottom he moves up to Pilgrim's Nest in Act 2, but that's the last you see of him. >>722676263Somebody dumped a list of flag names used in the save file and the last reference to Pilby's location is in Pilgrim's Nest. He does not show up in the game at any point afterwards. Posted Quirrel because people think his fate is ambiguous while TC called him dead in the filenames, I guess this is a way to avoid a repeat of that.
>>722673519It's probably the worst platforming in the game. Not particularly hard but it's the same jump 20x.
>>722674990IMO it’s the arduous run backs. In HK you could improve bit by bit rather than having to waste your time with insane run backs.
>>722673519It's mostly there to teach you "hit the spikes down, dummy" for Grandma's P2. But you can totally miss this and still beat her because she's not that hard.
>>722672804I am not yet in act 3 but I did most of act 2 already, including Lace 2. This doesn't look fun at all.
>>722677069It's weird we know what happened to bone bottom's merchant but Pilby's fate (literally the first pilgrim we talk to) goes unresolved
>>722677069I think they just didn't have time to finish Pilby's story but also didn't bother to just rip him out of the game entirely cause there's still some good stuff in what they did finish. But I'd expect a DLC to let you continue his trek toward the citadel.
>>722677237It's worth it
>>722676457>Silk gain. It makes Silk orbs that make it so you have constant healingEach attack generates 1-2 silk orbs. Each orb adds 1/3rd of a silk bar. So you need to hit 3 times to get 1 silk bar back, and also catch the orbs afterwards. By the time you hit an enemy 3 times with Reaper, with any other crest you will have the time to do 4 attacks and that will return 4 silk bars. Oh, and any extra 1/3 or 2/3 that you got from the silk bars after a while disappears, they are not like the green ones that stay forever from Druid's eye. Then consider that you lose the buff after 1 hit, and that sometimes that silk orb will appear outside the arena's limits, on enemies, on nails. It's a meme.>Strongest crest is architect. It's Charge attack + flintstone = highest damage in the game.It's already been nerfed a bit. Also, I said that Wanderer is "arguably" the best, and also I said at DPS. Architect needs preparation, carrying the right tool for the right job, potentially grind for rosaries to buy shards. Wanderer is just nail spam. You don't count Architect's damage in DPS.>>722676964>Highest range in the game with very good and forgiving pogoThese are the differences between Wanderer and Reaper, with and without the range increase. As for the pogo, it's inconsistent. It has a delay that will make or break each and every pogo attempt. >The heal/extra silk is a bonus if you build for it.I built for it, check the catbox link at my first post. I built around the heal with multibind and trobbio mirrors. I can move the same build to Hunter and it will work just as fine, if not better. The Reaper's passive is a joke.
>>722674990HK gradually eases you into the game. Early SS does its best to break you until you understand what the gameplay is supposed to be like, especially with any bad habits you might have developed from HK. Eventually you'll reach a point where your brain finally understands what the game is demanding of you, and at that point SS becomes easier than HK.Or just grind rosaries for a key and get Wanderer lmao.
Unused save file area art.
>>722677940
>>722677206HK has far worse runbacks (Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Trailor Lord, just off the top of my head), fuck off tourist.
>>722677009
>>722671407Reaper is the best, but enjoy your casual easymode DPS I guess
>>722675801>>722676263I heard that he should reappear in the citadel but there is no flag for him to do so, but I don't know how reliable he was.
>>722674990I had the complete opposite experience. I basically 1 or 2-shot every boss in SS, minus a few. That's without me using any of the tools, because I'm a retard who prefers simple beatemup gameplay. HK I got categorically shit on by multiple bosses. Repeatedly. Zote is fucking impossible. The one way SS is definitely harder though is the general overworld. Everything doing 2 masks is bullshit and some of the areas are brutal to trek though. The fucking mosquito enemies in the Ducts area are absolute assholes.
>>722677832>especially with any bad habits you might have developed from HKAnd yet I've seen people literally incapable of breaking these habits. I watched a guy refuse to use tools except for cogflies (of which he literally only ever sent out one at a time), perma-swap to Wanderer for the downward pogo yet for some reason call Shaman and Witch's pogo bad, never sprinted in battles, and concluded that it was harder than Elden Ring. https://litter.catbox.moe/2infvl.webmEven among Hollow Knight fans Silksong is proving them to be shitters.
>>722678262>get cogflies before Chapel of the Beast>still loseHoly shitter, THIS is the type of person saying Silksong has "bad game design?" Crazy.
I didn't beat the game
>>722678159You do realize you posted that to a Reaper Lost Lace webm, right...
>>722678436
>>722678262>Literally one stationary enemy and the entire room's length worth of reaction time for the boss's charge>"There's just so much going on"Does he have brain damage or something?
>>722678474Yeah and he said he's never using it again because he can only have fun when he's handheld
>>722668226I did it first try. I guess doing far fields lava climb 10 times has its benefits
still playing Hollow Knight, im slower than the rest of you. because i've been playing souls games for nearly a decade and haven't been playing other stuff.I just got crystal makes you yeet yourself, and hold to big slash, farming geo now.
>>722678436>>722678510trannyslop
>>722678550Yes, I played the whole game with Reaper crest and got tired of it. I got enough knowledge of the game to realize it is the worst crest in the game. Do you blame me for not wanting to replay the whole game with Reaper again?
>>722678436>>722678510I don't get it, why did they kill Phantom?>>722678627this is a femc game for troons, fuck off chuddie
>>722678716This is why I keep saying Reaper needed a natural damage buff. 1.2x damage alone would make its slow playstyle much more useable.
>>722674330I don't have shaman but this crest has the longest normal attack in the game when combined with long claw. I'm not thrilled by the bind, but I haven't gotten dual mirrors yet so I'm sure that could change. I rate it just behind Wanderer/Reaper in my favorite choices.
>>722678716I don't blame you for anything, some people simply have an underdeveloped brain so they can't have fun unless they always use the most OP possible build
>>722675608>Silksong didn't have any kino momen-
>>722677792Sticking with it being themed around silk harvesting, Reaper should get the extra 1/3 bar on every normal hit, with the silk orbs generating a full extra bar each.
>>722678760Lace set her up so she could keep hornet for herself
>>722672804>Reinforced healthHow? I'm at 99% in Act 3 and I don't have that. Do I have to do the Mount Fay courier quest?
>>722673359>The passive after a bind is a meme.spoken like a true silkskillet
I don't understand the implications of Styx's secret room. Why is there a second one of him up there? Also are Styx and Huntress the same species?
Shaman + Volt Filament + Weavelight + Thread Storm + Pale Nails is retarded strong, you literally one shot regular enemies and have free infinite spellsYeah, I know it's only in Act 3, but still
>>722679007It's not reinforced, it's the barbed bracelet that makes you take double damage in exchange for a damage boost.
>>722679130Gotcha, thanks! I thought I was losing my mind over here.
Hello sisters!
>>722679113Shaman being in Act 3 makes a lot more sense once you see the damage numbers it provides
>>722678830with injector band it's somewhere around 3-4x as fast as the other binds, that and the damage makes it completely insane when you get good enough with positioning even before dual mirrors
Melty incoming.
>>722678990TRVTH NVKE
>>722679320Why won't mods deal with him?
>>722679320it's more of a discord raid but I guess it's a melty too
>>722679082It makes more sense if you talk to the Mask Maker both with and without his mask on. Essentially, certain masks can override a person's default personality to make them become the role they're performing, so Styx is essentially flip-flopping between multiple roles.
>>722679415Discord raids are basically a collective melty
R8 my silksong t-shirt
>>722679082Play the needolin. He's a schizo who wears different masks depending on the role.
Supporting this game means supporting trans rights btw.
>>722679082definitely the same species, the implication is that styx is having you consume his children so they don't do the same to him first
>schizo's gonna shit up the thread because someone posted Lacenetlmao
>>722678627Cope.
>>722679082Styx is a faceless bug who switches between different roles through the masks of other bugs in order to defend himself, and because not having a face likely made him a bit of a schizo. I doubt he is part of Huntress' race, it's more like a red herring; he is just performing the role of what a male of her species does.
>>722679630A falseflag couldn't be more obvious if it tried
>>722679627He's such a fucking loser
>>722679082>>722679443>>722679491I saw the theory that what he says>The one to serve>The one to breed>The one to killAre connected to his own mask, Huntress' mask (defined by her children) and Skynx' mask (implied to have killed Styx, as we can see all three there.
>>722679686What falseflag?
>>722679627no no anon being so mindbroken by people you find obnoxious that you can't see anything without thinking of them is based actually
>>722678760>I don't get it, why did they kill Phantom?Her needolin dialogue and hunter's journal tell us Phantom wanted to die in battle rather than slowly to age.
Cute!
>>722679627It's a Discord raid performed by several people, it has less to do with what gets posted here and more with the fact it's a thread about a game some retards don't like.
>>722679850Isn't she immortal as long as she feeds on silk?
Which one's your favorite?
>>722679443How do I get him to take his mask off? I slapped him for a minute straight but nothing happened.
>>722679915This
>>722679975Charge attack.
>>722679975Charged attacks are what break it
This is the only time in the game, to my knowledge, that Hornet plays a different melody on the Sneedolin.
>>722679925Pretty much.
>>722680047Also before lace 2
>>722680047I get this is supposed to be a somber moment but they made that character's face look so doofy. I kinda love it.
>>722680047Nah, you have to experiment more. Didn't know this one for example and cant tell you others because it really were rather random spots.
>>722680047I found that rather interesting desu
>>722679925We know Phantom was gray and frayed with age, we don't know the details, but both Hornet and Phantom herself are of the opinion she was dying anyway.>Show me strength, spider...>Forgotten...>Discarded...>Silk stretched thin...>Shell stiffened...>Claws quivering...>Free me from this fading fate...>Free me!
So Elder Hu is 100% from Shakra's tribe, right?
>>722680295Yes.
Can somebody explain to me why does this game turn people into trannies?
>>722679915cordies are so pathetic and impotentmight buy silksong just to spite them lmaoI don't even care for the game and I just was scrolling past this thread and saw your post, but nothing is funnier than making discord troons seethe. I will buy your game.
I'm trying to beat trobbio, but it seems he's invulnerable when I try to hit him. He turns into this tornado. Am I missing some item?
>>722680379Unless it's racing or sports games, it's for mentally ill loners. Gaming is not and never will be a normie hobby, weirdos are just loud and have microphones now.No one normal played Hollow Knight.
Like it's just so widespread.
At least it's not in the other thread. Next time don't put Silksong in the OP and you'll find discord troons can't coordinate for shit.
>>722680437Based. Buy 2 copies anon.
>>722680458Have you tried hitting him when he's not spinning or hitting the top of his head when he is spinning?
>>722663727Only act 2. I didn't feel like doing the busywork to unlock act 3.
>>722663727>It's been a month, you HAVE beaten the game by now right?No i'm in act 2
>>722680578Nope, gonna try it now.
>>722680464Those are for sportcels now, cool kids still play CoD and Battlefield after 2 decades of that shit OH and GTA, I don't even know if half my coworkers know what a Mario is, yet the half the warehouse vows to call in sick for GTA6
>>722668226lmao, don't tell this guy about the ascent to the surface
Will you watch her, /hkg/?
I'm satisfied that I can beat Lost Lace with my toolless Reaper now (although I haven't yet and keep dying).Overall though I think it's a less enjoyable fight than Karmelita. It's just too cagey with Lace; if I whiff I know it will be punished, if she parries I know I will be punished. Then in the later stages there's even LESS rhythm because of the projectiles and risk of clawlining into a spawning void tentacle. It's a good fight, she's a worthy adversary, it's just... slightly less fun.
>>722680818Fair enough. I agree with GTA6 for sure.I guess I was being a little too reductive. I'd say 98% of video games are for mentally ill loners and anyone consistently playing different genres is only a few steps adjacent straight up troon discord goonershooter level, and just won't admit it to themselves. The older you get, the more you realize how distinct you are from normal people if you're big into games. Most people just don't, or stopped a long time ago, or never did.
>muh reaper>muh wandererwhere are the BEASTCHADS at? the best crest in the game
>>722681335Here.
where do I go after I put the cogwork heart into the robotwhere do I get the thing to start the witch crest sidequestwhere do I get the map for the slab, I have all 3 keys and have no idea where the map isalso am I dumb or is architect just an objectively better version of hunter? the charge attack is just better (?) and the infinite hp trick is so good for exploring
>>722681428If you're asking whether you're dumb or not, 90% of the time you are, in fact, dumb.
If you didn't have Shakra or Garmond help you with the High Halls gauntlet, you didn't beat the game.
So, is this ledge just nothing?
>>722681518How do I get Shakra? The old man sucks in hindsight
>>722681428>where do I go after I put the cogwork heart into the robotYou meet it around in the citadel after wich you will get a mission at songclave>where do I get the thing to start the witch crest sidequestfrom whispering vaults you get into bilewaters>where do I get the map for the slab, I have all 3 keys and have no idea where the map isNear and above the list of sins,from a corpse>also am I dumb or is architect just an objectively better version of hunter? the charge attack is just better (?) and the infinite hp trick is so good for exploringUpgrade the hunter, but yes, architect is arguably the best.
>>722681552Unfortunately yeah. They could have at least put a shard vein or a memory locket there but nah fuck you.
>>722675142No, this was. A far more memorable instance for this NPC.>Pilby? ah, yes, that guy I talked a few times at the camp... and he told me his name...then never saw him again.VS.>That poor, wretched pilgrim who died tragically when the skull tyrant attacked the camp, and then we held a funeral for this nameless martyr? Kino.
>>722681428>Explore until you encounter it fighting enemies a few times, then its quest should show up in Songclave>From the vaults there's a hidden path up to the right that will lead into a section of Bilewater that houses the item you want>Slab map is to the right of one of the benches behind a hidden wallYes Architect's charge attack is stronger than every other crest, it literally does mroe damage where others don't (except Witch).
>>722681602Finish her questline to find her mentor. You don't need to duel her.
>>722681602Nta but you have to do her wish, wich requires buying all of her maps.
>>722679320uhoh
>>722681552Yes.
>>722681602You take that backhttps://litter.catbox.moe/ttjre1x3338pf7k3.webm
>>722681602You need to finish her quest. You are absolutely not meant to have Shakra for that gauntlet, not on a first playthrough anyways. Garmond is hard to get too, you pretty much have to really go out of your way to get him. I explored a ton and I still missed the trigger. You clearly aren't really intended to have help for it.
There are so many of them lol
>>722667949>wish there was more of a coral map to explore though.Supposedly that was the original idea but it was canned
>>722681552>>722681656There are a few weird useless corners like this that are either not easy to get to or weirdly empty for how prominent they look.My biggest bet is they might be placeholders for DLC stuff, be it NPCs or a new breakable wall in the screenshots case.
What makes Lace's design so iconic?
>>722681786>You are absolutely not meant to have Shakra for that gauntlet, not on a first playthrough anyways.If you just save that objective for the last of the three it's not at all something that's unfeasible or too unlikely. If you go through the slab and attain the double jump, you curiosity might set you off to explore the Memorium. If you then find Bilewater, that path should lead you on to all Shakra maps you might have left.
>the icon for the 3rd heart disappeared because I already killed the faggot princeI don't remember where it was. Somehwere between Blasted Steps and Shellwood?
>>722681786>You clearly aren't really intended to have help for it.I think they knew GMS was going to be underbaked even for speedrunners, to they intentionally set up the gauntlet to be the hardest fight in the game for people who weren't exploring enough to trigger act 3.
>>722681668You can also get his name before the funeral>We are here reunited to bury.....anyone knows his name?>Pibly...his name was Pilby
>>722681786Eh, I got Garmond without trying, THOUGH I backed away from the gauntlet after a few tries and came back later.I was still FAR or, heh, a whole mountain, away from Shakra joining at that point though.
What's with the absolute obsessed shitposter spamming the thread with troon shit?
>>722681974Silk Soar at the broken Grand Gate elevator.
>>722682063Dunno
>>722681891What are some other nice corners you've found?
uh oh
>>722682063He got triggered, he is going to stop once his head stops hurting
My president :)
>>722663727Going for a second playthrough. Groak took me a while again despite me beating every other boss so far on my first or second tries.
>>722669096>or some other busted setupThe whole point of games with character progression, yes.
What game is the new clown that's taken Silksong's place?I need my new blooper.
>>722682036Pilby was my friend!
How do you like to surprise your parents, /hkg/?
>>722681335Going through Steel Soul with it but these later bosses are getting tough, they don't like sitting around for very long
>>722682070That just takes me to Underworks.
>>722682682Why?
>>722668226abyss escape was not nearly on the same level as mt fay, sands of karak, cogwork core and ascent to the surfacethe only reason people struggle is that they panic because of the rising magma level, so its working as intended, but its really not that difficult and it's me, a platforming scrub, saying it
>>722682682Look around the elevator some more
>>722682614>the point of character progression is to look up the most broken setup online so you can trivialize the game as much as possibleWhat a shitter cope. Why can't you losers just stick to candy crush?
>>722682592You'll always first try him with this strategyhttps://files.catbox.moe/98lrbl.mp4
I like her shirt.
Flea dodge is the worst thing in this entire game, probably the worst thing in the entire two games combined, and I'm baffled they thought it was ok
>>722682682I said use Silk Soar
>>722683159There are some egregious design choices in both games tbhdesu
>>722675523Nope, you get blueballed anon
>>722678041Looks like something for the Mist.
Wannabe Radiance
>>722683159I don't really like Hornet's moveset more than the Knight's. By the time you have void dodge or whatever it's called, the Knight feels great. I do not like tools more than the spells, I do not appreciate an expendable currency behind them, I do not appreciate most of the crest movesets, I do not appreciate the knew silk cost skills that no one seems to use, I do not appreciate most of Silksong, to be honest. Definitely the weaker of the 2 in most ways except for challenge. Even the story is weaker.
Hate these fucking things
>>722683558People absolutely do use Silk Skills. The problem is the only actually good one is Thread Storm because it's an AOE damage nuke that can melt bosses if used on their extra wide openings.
>>722683273Dude please post full>>722683574Funny af
>>722663727The Green Prince is a grasshopper, right?
Karmelita was better but this fight was also very fun.
Why don't you take a seat?
>>722683935An assplapper.
Hey I'm back.
>>722683558Movement in silksong is a massive improvement, HK feels so slow and clunky in comparison now especially before you get the dash.Tools are cool and I'll admit they helped me cheese more than one boss, but tying them to a scarce currency is a stupid game design choice.Silk and heals using the same resource is also stupid considering how expensive a single heal is.Crests are cool, I like the different movesets and abilities, but the tool slot system is bad. I should be allowed to make my crest all blue tools if I wanted to.>>722683747Pale nails is great too.
>>722678262Got a link to this guy? I need more footage of people playing this game like dogshit
>>722684109>knight falls under the trans umbrellaKnight isn't even really a living being, it's a mass of void, it has no sex or gender or identityJesus christ
>>722664008Beast is way stronger
>>722684407No you see, the Knight is trans because it's a corpse
>>722684304>Pale nails is great too.Pale nails feel better than threadstorm for Lace3
>>722663727twice
>>722684407>isn't even really a living being, it's a mass of void, it has no sexWe're no so different, he and I.
>>722684304The currency wouldn't be a problem if there wasn't such a ridiculous cap for them. Hornet can carry seemingly infinite rosary beads. Why is she so hamstrung on shards? It can cost like 10 to use a tool, if you get stuck on one boss you can easily run out. You're basically incentivized to not use them at all and learn to get by without them, then once you do you don't need them, so they may as well not fucking be there at all.
BTW Hornet is trans
>>722684464>all male bonding is gay>showmanship is gayI fucking hate shipperbrained retards
>>722663727I've still not beaten the first game because it was so lame
haha...
Hornet hates fly people (or fliggers, as she calls them)
>>722684576The real problem is how comically few shards are dropped by enemies. A lot of them don't drop any at all if you don't have the shard tool equipped, and even larger enemies will only drop 15 at most with said shard tool. Early game this is fine, you're basically passively gaining a resource you'll be using later, but in the lategame you better have Shard Bundles or you're fucked. Also there's technically two extra tiers of Shard storage that cannot be bought, and is only limited to 3 each. Also you can only hold 20 of any item at a time for some fucking reason.
>>722684673>all male bonding is gay
>>722684704nah youre just gay
This was a cool fight too. I've seen people saying act 3 bosses suck but most of them have been really nice fights, and all of them pretty different. The only fights I found to be shit are Tormented Trobbio, Lost Garmond, Crowfather and the Bell Eater but this one was kinda redeemed with the kino finale.
>>722676424>no radiance haremI've never felt it's more ever
What's the optimal way to get the speedrun achievement? Do I ignore everything and rush to Act 3 and only explore the map once I have every ability?
>>722684803This
Name a better fight.
>>722684802>Also you can only hold 20 of any item at a time for some fucking reason.And you can only buy 1 at a time. Enjoy scrolling to the item and clicking buy 20 times!
>>722684879>Do I ignore everything and rush to Act 3 and only explore the map once I have every ability?Yes.
>>722684916Widow
>>722684823>CrowfatherDo you really dislike him? I loved him he was so goofy and funny
>>722683827It's on r34
>>722684916There isn't one but Karmelita is a close second.
LACE IS TRYING TO STEAL SHERMA'S INNOCENCE WHY IS SHE LIKE THIS
>>722684964Yeah I found him quite funny
>>722684823Nyleth is alright, Seth is terrible
>>722684964He was just a big damage sponge that barely did anything besides summon more adds.
>>722685012OMG STOP HER!!!
>>722685054You mean the one guarding Nyleth? His fight is honestly one of my favouties so far.
Are they the most soulful characters in the game?
>>722685225I don't like bosses whose sole gimmick is that they teleport all over the arena never giving you half a second to move anywhere without teleporting straight inside of your ass
This game is misandrist.
>>722685295He's Indian-coded
I like how people are trying to attach lgbt ideology onto a game where the main character is violently homophobic
>>722685073Idk, the angry pecking at the floor and some of the other animations were cool, he looked like a cuphead enemy
>>722684964He's funny but not a particularly interesting boss mechanically.>>722685054Seth is great. I swear the people who hate him just can't get timing and positioning right.
>>722685303He was pretty easy to follow. I hated the Shakra fight tho.
Wish there was a NG+ mode so I could replay the whole game as a laser sniper
>>722685359He doesn't get hit by a Bell Beast while Zaza records it though.
>>722685359Spaniard
>>722663727Not yet. I'm on Act 3 but I'm currently walled by Karmelitta
>>722685359He's literally Don Quixote's bugsona
>>722685359Hey, leave my Donquixote alone
>>722685359>>722685496He's Arabic and the lone Arabic traveler from a foreign land is a common and kino trope in European mythos.
>>722685449I agree. It'd be extremely fun to play the game with a dedicated gun build without using your nail at all.>Silkshot>Rosary Cannon>...I dunno, Curvesickle I guess?
I loved it. I genuinely think you just need to git gud if you can't handle 2-3 enemies at a time.t. Hunter/Shaman main with no poison cogfly usage
>>722685449I was gonna say based because the Faygun is one of my favourite tools but then I saw the cogflies.
>>722685449>We didn't get a fully developed coral themed areaSEVEN YEARS
>>722685585Why are you retarded?
>>722685585>believing thiskek
Where is the last flarking mask piece?
>>722685651DLC. Trust the plan.
>>722685592The 3 pins that the crows use are decent too
>Vog
>>722685707Have you found the one deep inside Mount Fay ?
>>722685651I fully believe that the coral area will show up in a DLC. You don't just completely delete an entire goddamned zone without saving it for later use.
>>722685592Now imagine if you could aim the ranged tools with right stick
>>722685585You literally can find him for the first time in a gigantic tower with "windmills"
>>722685707It's genuinely impossible to know. Just use this site and see where you missed it and save yourself the trouble https://silksong-completion.info
>>722685726Curvesickle is by far the best offensive tool in the game and it doesn't even come close. It's actually on the verge of being broken, in my opinion. Desperately needs a nerf.
>>722685779The one in the tube? Or are there two? Pretty sure the last mask was supposed to be exclusive to act 3. Or at least I've heard so.
>>722685824You can with the Rosary Cannon, can't you? To be fair I barely used it because I assumed it would be severely underpowered.
what's with the difficulty discussion surrounding this game? there's shit to criticize like taking 2 masks from environmental damage(which they already changed) and taking contact damage from stunned bosses, but there's a fuckton of "it's hard so it's bad design", and also a ton of people here who seem to hate souls games with a passion and need to constantly create souls fan strawmen
>>722685859Rosary Canon is the one that I don't like of the ones that he posted
>>722663727I beat it before the nerfs and only used the Hunter crest and no tools for the whole game. It was pretty good but I can't decide if it's better than HK or not. As a piece of art it is, but as a whole package including pacing and mechanics I'm still conflicted.
>>722686009The game got too popular so it's drawn the ire of plebs
>>722686028I don't like it either, to be fair. I only listed it because it fits the idea of "Gun Build Hornet". I do wish there was a third gun weapon so I could run Architect with nothing but guns.
So Styx is just larping?
>>722685875There's another, it requires Silk Soar. The jump is placed in the most obnoxiously random location.
>>722686049Hollow Knight has superior pacing and a more impactful story. However, the gameplay is such a massive downgrade that I cannot in good conscious call it better than Silksong.
>>722686169He has Mask MPD
>>722685875
>>722686169Styx is Huntress. Huntress is Styx. The Mask dictates who you are.
>>722686279>>722686173Mkay. Some NPC or the other has told me about a crystal cave in the heart of the peak, but I thought I already was there. There was a cave full of regenerating ice cubes, and I thought they were talking about that.
>>722686394There's one crystal cave where you save a flea. There's another with a mask shard.To be fair I would have missed it too without consulting a community map.
>>722685848oh thank fuck, i don't actually have to systematically search for each memory locket
>>722686394https://silksong-completionist.com/Upload your save here and see which fragment you're missing and where it is
I just killed the Widow and completed the Volatile beetles quest. Hadn't have much time to play.
>>722686493>>722685848>Upload your save
>>722686205Im going to replay both back to back in like a year to finally make up my mind. Silksong has better bosses and faster/more frenetic combat (flashier too) but I wasn't a fan of the tools or the charm system in general. Additionally, I felt it was really really lacking in atmosphere and overall logical world connections. HK felt airtight and intentional in that department imo. Just feels like I'll remember both games for very different reasons. HK for the vibes, SS for the set pieces and battles.
Reminder that Clawline is optional to get the double jump.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC9LS9KuCJo
>>722686505It is kinda crazy how much game is left for you. Assuming you've clocked around 10-15 hours, you've still got 25-30 to go for the true ending. Add another 5 if you're going for 100%.
>>722686357But Styx is male and the Huntress is female.
>>722686604Sure but clawline is the best thing ever
>>722686668I always forget that it is an ability and then I watch people melt bosses in seconds by just spamming it.
>Hornet tells the Pinmaster the needle she's using is a special one made by the smiths of her home kingdomThat doesn't make much sense though. Why would her captors bring her weapon with them for her. The starting weapon should just be something she loots off the guards after the drop. That's basically what it looks like, anyway
>>722686605Not that anon, but I'm going for 100%. I'm trying to do everything I can right now before going to fight Lace 2. I'm in Bilewater right now which I think is the last main area in the game for me.
Really? This is Eva's conclusion? I was expecting something more.
>>722686605Sadly, I've clocked 20 hours so far, I'm a bit slow.
>>722686581What exactly do you think those dastardly criminals are going to do with it?Just use the map then schizohttps://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
>>722686791DO IT FAGGOT
>The soundtrack was forgettabl-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8wGcWeXwghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hM_Hp37By0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_0KoleZiU
>>722686837But I wanted to free the waifu in a can.
>>722686605>10-15 hours, you've still got 25-30 to go for the true ending>35 to 45 hours totallmao I'm at 84 hours and still have a couple things left to do before going to the final boss in act 3
>>722686754My headcanon is that they caught her with some magic silk trap or something and they were too scared to enter the cage to remove her weapon
I beat lost lace at 95% completion. Do I have to fight her again now that I’m at 100%?
>>722686589I immediately replayed HK after beating Silksong's true ending for the first time (I did not get 100% on my first playthrough). I did absolutely everything in HK save for some Godhome stuff because I couldn't be bothered. Afterwards, I did a second Silksong playthrough with the intention of getting 100% from the start.Hollow Knight is superior to Silksong in almost every way except for the most important one: gameplay. The Knight is just nowhere NEAR as much fun to control as Hornet. He's slow, has very few movement options outside of dash and double jump, and there's not any variety in how you play him. The charm system allows for more creative augments, but they don't truly change the way you play the game for the most part. The lack of offensive tools was the biggest thing that I missed while going through Hollownest. People might call them "YDNBTG" tier, but they're fucking fun to use. The Knight also feels extremely slow and clunky to move. I missed the sprint so goddamned much, and surprisingly I missed the 45 degree pogo too.Silksong's biggest flaw is pacing. After a while, you start to feel overwhelmed with things to do, places to go, and the map almost feels a bit too big to navigate. Once you get into Act 3, navigating feels like a chore. There's not much new to discover, you're just traversing the same areas you already have been for dozens of hours. In Hollow Knight, this wasn't the case at all. From start to finish, there isn't a moment in Hollow Knight that feels tedious. The Wishes in Silksong are also an issue that contribute to this. The "find 10 bear asses" shit was fucking egregious and should have never been put in the game. Most other Wishes I can let slide because they were interesting and fun, but goddamn. I was put off so much once I was told to kill a bunch of the same enemy for an item drop. It really soured me on the game for a bit.
>>722686772Average 100% seems to me somewhere from 60-90 hours depending on player speed/afk time.
I apologize, /v/, I have sinned twice.First, while doing my Steel Soul run, I was caught flat-footed by the Savage Beastfly quest that I forgot I picked up and on my way through Far Fields to do the trial for the mask shard I ran into it and quit before it even came out of the water.I practiced it a bit on a normal run then I tried to beat it in SS, but something fumbled up (I think because it got stunned when I was doing a pogo, so my pogo fucked up and I took 2 damages, plus 2 damages I had from earlier, and immediatly after the stun it summoned TWO adds on opposite sides of the arena) so I took a devastating amount of damage, panicked again, and quit the game again. I beat the boss on my second try.As penance, I went to do the mask gauntlet immediatly after. It went pretty badly, by the time the lava started to rise I was down to my last mask (the fractured mask broke earlier) and did the entire climb with just that, dodging the bonebugs that spit fire. I succeeded. I hope this means the SilksongGODS have forgiven me.
>>722686754Besides what the other anon said, it's not on you when you fall down, it makes some noise and then falls besides you, almost as if somebody made sure you got it back.Or I'm overthinking this and the needle just cling clanged its way down while Hornet fell straight.
>>722686791Even the upgrade is bad, you get it so late there are barely things remaining at the game. You're just at that point where you're only missing things you've never found, so you checked the map and probably did every last optional bosses and stuff. Only the final boss remains for most people I'd say.
>>722687031This is true, but Hollow Knight excels in the areas of a game that make a something stick with you long after the credits have rolled. There are no shortage of platformers with great movement, ones that even eclipse Silksong, but there aren't many games that give you a memorable and atmospheric experience like Hollow Knight.
>>722686772>>722686923>>722687086My first playthrough (which only got 89%) was clocked at 59 hours. My second playthrough (100%, no rushing, taking my time) clocked in at 38 hours.
>>722686605What is the true ending?
>>722687135Yeah, I think I just have to go down to the abyss again and then that's it. But I will look at all the bosses in the wiki to see if I had missed anything still. I still need to find one spool fragment as well.
>>722687142I might be in the minority on this, but Silksong had moments that affected me more than Hollow Knight. Sure, the Quirrel stuff is fantastic. The Blue Lake moment is one of the best in the game. But, and feel free to call me a faggot for this one, Silksong genuinely made me tear up. The Red Memory, once I realized I was climbing Deepnest, made me feel things that Hollow Knight didn't. The moment with Herrah was so fucking good. Garmond and Zaza genuinely made me fucking cry. I had to put the game down for a bit. Same goes for Shakra's final quest. Silksong is FILLED with amazing emotional moments. The problem is all these moments have nothing to do with the main story itself, so perhaps they don't feel as impactful for you as they did for me.
>>722672851Lost GMS should have this attack
>>722687314Act 3. If you're wondering how to get to it, just do as much shit as you can. Eventually you'll see a quest called "Silk and Soul" that triggers Act 3. I will say nothing more.
>>722687135>>722687393Eh I got a ton of millage out of it because I was far from done with everything when I got to act 3 but somehow had all the crests shortly after.You don't need all the lockets to unlock her, maybe 9 out of 15
>>722687543You need 12 (out of 20) lockets total to bind Eva.
>>722687393Red Memory is basically HK lore, wouldn't count that as SS.
>>722687603Okay, but Red Memory is in Silksong. Not Hollow Knight. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
>>722687135Oh yeah, this is pretty much worthless for me at this point lol.
>>722687393Silksong had its moments and the ones that you mentioned are all great, but I waited the entire game for something like pic related and it just never came. Maybe it's just because it was a sequel so it was never going to hit like the first one but I was a bit disappointed with the atmosphere and NPCs of Silksong compared to its predecessor.
>>722687393I took the worst kind of emotional damage when the 12 Architect died and I was literally begging for them to not kill the second sentinel.Please don't take away my robowaifus...
>>722663727>2025>sidescrollerjfc do people really
>>722668226It took me a few tries, but I got it.How does someone get stuck on this for days?How did they even get this far?This seems like a shitpost.
>>722687694Yes
>>722687663I think Garmond and Zaza were supposed to be the equivalent. I can agree that they don't fulfill the same purpose as Quirrel, and Quirrel's story is better. I'll give you that. But Quirrel's story didn't make me fucking cry and turn off the game.
>>722687656It's purely relying on what you know from HK. It wouldn't be that impactful if it wasn't for HK's lore. It is a literal throwback.
>>722686791It sucks we didn't get more info on her. A pseudo-cutscene or something after you bind her would have been nice at least.
>>722687825Red Memory is in Silksong. It is a part of Silksong. It is a moment that happens within Silksong. Silksong is a sequel to Hollow Knight. Are you fucking retarded or something?
im stuck on the highhalls gauntlet where the final wave is 2 big ass cockroach guys with the mace. im using +2 nail, poison cogfly, and flintmetal i do not remotely understand how to handle the last wave, but I can get there every time with no tool usage before.
>>722687816>Not tearing up at this scene
>>722684407>Knight isn't even really a living being, it's a mass of void, it has no sex or gender or identityI guess he IS trans afterall
>>722687938You can get some help
>>722687938>+2 nailGo make it a +3 and get the Tacks from Sinner's Road.
>>722687938That is quite possibly the worst fight in the game.Do your best to keep them both on one side of the screen. Make sure you are proactively dodging. It is more important that you do NOT take damage than it is that you deal damage. Use your ranged tools, they are basically made for this exact kind of thing. Curveclaw will help immensely since it is multihit and penetrates enemies.
>>722687886Yes it is in Silksong, but at no point in this part of the game does it actually refers to Silksong... That is what I'm trying to say. It's free fanservice for them. Sure, it works, but that's basically "cheating" compared to the other emotional moments you've mentioned.If it had more DIRECT link to SS, I wouldn't say anything, but it does not.
>>722687938Keep them on one side at all costs
>>722687938The big bugs aren't really as dangerous as they look. The flying fucks are much worse. You can avoid most if not all of their attacks by clinging to the walls, if you feel to threatened to fight them normally.
>>722687947Tear up? Maybe a bit, sure. Like I said, it's the best fucking moment in Hollow Knight and pulls at your emotions in a brilliant way. But it didn't make me sob like a bitch.
>>722663727Great game, too many piddly, forgettable mob battles though. Those are just filler.
>>722688124Fucking Zaza just laying down next to him was the part that got me, somehow didn't feel much for the old guy
>>722663727>No Trobbchild Toolcringe and missed potential
>>722688024i dont know what those are, i will go explore. i have lost shakra at some point and cant fucking find her to buy the maps im missing, which is quite a few>>722688042man i dont have this shit either i hav ejust failed at buyign items
>>722688056I dunno man, I didn't feel that way at all. Silksong is an origin story for the Weavers, and by proxy, Hornet herself. Of course they're gonna show her backstory. We all knew that her past was going to get more lore. What mattered was how they went about it, and I think they did it in the perfect way.Are you saying the Red Memory SHOULDN'T be in Silksong? Should we not see the moment with Herrah? The White Lady?I'll admit the moment with Vespa felt a bit forced
>Pale King is le colonizer > Grandmother Silk dealt le generational trauma on the weavers How does one missread these characters as such?
>>722663727Just beat Act 3 today.
>>722688268Go back to Hunter's March. You can find the curveclaw there via a hidden entrance. Can't remember if it's a breakable wall or just one of those bullshit "looks like a wall but you can actually walk through it." It's on the second highest room, if I remember.Trust me, you'll want it. It's goated. People think the cogflies are the best in the game, but they just don't know how powerful the curveclaw is.
For me it's little things like Shakira helping you with the bigger ant gauntlet if you beeline to the inner parts of the hunters grounds but the moment you get the float (or fight Lace?) the game thinks you are good and she is found further in.
>>722688223I liked Garmond for the most part. I liked his bravado, and he helped me through moorwing and High Halls, so defeating him only filled me with a feeling that he would die a warrior's death. Zaza absolutely broke my heart though.
Flea games are fun.
Is it just me or is it kind of odd how much stuff in the game doesn't count towards 100%?
>>722668348He really isn't>soulslike are notorious for having bad platforming sectionsas though a 3d game with a jump button bound to the run button and heavy physics is comparable to a fucking 2D floaty game that's part literal platformer, I guess because they're both vaguely 'souls-y' (ie they're both somewhat challenging and you spill money when you die)
>>722686009They can't handle having their ego shattered and start lashing out. the criticisms are usually boil down to inability to utilize new tools or grasping on new ideas and disregard those challenges as being in their words, "too artificial". ppl who know they're bad (through self reflecting) don't do this. so, to narrow down, It must be someone with overly sense of self importance, and a soulslurper is just a perfect candidate for that. As you can tell this reply is getting long so I'm just gonna say It's always a soulsfags instead
>>722688556I fucking love fleas so goddamn much. Grubs can't even come close to competing.
>>722688284I'm not saying it's bad at all, but it's the equivalent of>Member the white lady?>Member the city?>Member Vespa?Just like the Star Wars sequels did. Now I'm not saying it's as bad as SW, TC did great with this section. I'm just saying it feels a bit cheap to put this at the same level as Garmond, Shakra or even Bone Bottom's attack and deaths.
>>722668226>abyss escape>harder than Mt. FayWhat alternate reality did you dig up this post from?
>>722688648I put it on the same level because it affected me so. I can't really give much more explanation other than that. What felt cheap to you felt just right for me.
>>722686357If you don't finish her quest in Act 2 she dies, and Styx is still there.So no they're not.Styx is however possibly the father of her kids or at least the personality he has when wearing the breeder mask is.
>>722688697It's funny. Mt. Fay was by far the hardest part of the game on my first playthrough. I am not joking when I say it probably took me like 3 hours to reach the top. Thousands of Rosaries lost, tons of silk cocoons never reached because I died too high up.On the second playthrough, it literally took me one try. I think I was in Mt. Fay for maybe 20 minutes.
>>722687498Alright just checking. I beat the game earlier today at 93% completion fully blind, and doing the Mr. Mushroom quest adds a cutscene at the end.
>>722688949You don't get any extra ending for getting 100%. It's pretty much just for the cheevo, and so you can put down the game knowing you've done everything there is to do.Until you realize that Steel Soul mode has exclusive content
>>722688648Not that anon, but what you find cheesy others can find it emotional, for example I don't like HK a lot because I can't feel a shit about Ghost since he has 0 personality but when Silksong started and Hornet began limping I felt terribly worried about her and it was literally 2 minutes in.
>>722687847She's just a failed higher being the weavers tried to make in the image of the GSM
>>722688697mt fay is only hard until your first completion. abyss climb has some tricky parts that you can still mess up on easily. that said surface ascension is easily harder than both
>>722689045>surface ascension is easily harder than both>it's just "jump -> clawline -> double jump -> dash" over and over againBruh
>>722689021Yep but when that anon says that he was more emotional for SS than HK, then the first thing he mentions is the red memory, it feels contradictory. Not criticizing, just mentioning.
>>722689045You can cheat half of abyss climb with 2 silksoars
>>722688249Hornet doesn't really have a lot of>just a little guytools.She has the cogbeetle that we know for a fact she builds herself, doesn't birth like from an item called Glowing Womb.Probably want to keep those implications away from Hornet.
>>722687393>once I realized I was climbing [place from Hollow Knight], Silksong made me feel things that Hollow Knight never didlol
>>722689174I didn't put any thought into the order of the moments I mentioned in my post. I put Red Memory on the list because it's the big story moment of the game and it stuck out to me just like the other emotional moments. The fact that I listed it first is purely coincidental.
>>722689164Yea idk how people struggled with this. My biggest disappointment with silksong is that it had no path of pain equivalent. The closest was that tiny section above GMS but that wasn't even half as long or difficult as PoP. I only recall one moving sawblade pogo jump in the whole game and it was in the clockwork zone below the GMS elevator.
>>722689248It's a sequel, dude. Of course knowledge of the previous game is going to be required for the emotional moments to hit.
>>722689164and what do the others have? its just dash, wall jump, hook shot, repeat
>>722689020Fuck sake, what is it?I feel pretty done with the game already.
>>722689391The other platforming gauntlets have way more variety. High halls has a mixture of clawlines, timing pogos, as well as a few bits of combat within those platforming gauntlets. Mt. Fay has a variety of different moves that you need to do in different orders, rather than just doing the same order of actions over and over again. None of the other platforming gauntlets felt repetitive at all, only the surface ascension.>>722689417Honestly, it just boils down to one exclusive boss that isn't even anything to write home about.
>>722689338PoP isnt nearly as difficult as you remember it being
>>722688642>choking on BFC Imagery
>>722689582>high hallsJust realized I might be mixing this up with Cogwork Core, but honestly both of them have more variety than surface tension.
I'm sad you can't overcharm yourself. I guess the barbed bracelet fills that niche, but still.
>>722689746>Where is my wifeOFF lorelet doesn't know Batter and Queen are technically brother and sister, and Hugo is their father
>>722681883>was cannedFor autistic reasons too.>the coral area is a nice thing and we can't have nice things because the citadel is bad
>>722688556bounce is funjuggle is alright when you lock indodge is literally ass cancer
