Trench Crusade vidya when
>>722664252>it is like 40k but not!Eh, you can have it.
>trooned out the moment they got the exodus from wh40k trooning outNope
>>722664252>30000 ton tank fires one round>multiple cranes a huge crew needed to reload>2 trains needed to get it enough fuel to move even a few miles>after each tenth fired round barrel needs astronomically costly repairs>juicy and easy to hit target for the enemyWhat's the fucking point?
>>722664504qrd?
It has to be a men of war style game, not a generic RTS or CoH clone.
>>722664252it would be good material for a Fear & Hunger 3
>>722664252>BRO IT'S SO HEKKIN GRIMDDARK BROOOOO>IT WILL KILL 40k BTW BROOOOOO>is forgottenlel
It would be cooler if you could actually play as demons, but you can't, only as cultists.
Wasn't this whole thing just an art project some dude did? Why are people suddenly talking about it being a game and shit?
>>722665226I think they actually want to produce miniatures. Bad idea IMO, no one is gonna spend on a wargame that barely anyone plays. They should just make a strategy video game.
>>722664252it's tetarded as a setting, it rides 95% on quality art, that's it map doesn't make sense
>>722664252i had never heard of this but i just read the wiki page and it sounds based. 40k-style grimdark bombast but contained to earth and focused on religion rather than aliens.
>>722664252There’s a Doom II mod called Trench Foot that’s sort of a similar deal although ironically it started development before Trench Crusade officially came out.
Try Foxhole with some skins or something.
>>722664252>40gay but lower techSlightly less gay but still incredibly gay
>>722665226>>722665323They made a system for it, the game is miniature agnostic, you can use whatever you want, the wargaming community doesn't need permission to play a game if they think the idea is cool, they just make it.
>>722664586Rule of cool.
>>722664586>after each tenth fired round barrel needs astronomically costly repairsGet your logic out of here. /v/tards think guns are magical devices that never wear down and don't need any maintenance.
>>722666182>>722664586If the Basilica made sense in the 1400s a thousand times bigger version makes sense in a fantasy settings
>>722666182This setting has guns blessed by God Himself, maybe they don't wear down like irl.
>>722664586>>722666182>>722666381You retards are like Constantine>You want to sell me a big cannon? No way, that's UNREALISTIC lol>OH NO MY WALLS HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME
>>722664586>Multiple cranesjust a couple of these chicks will do
>>722666469>guns blessed by God Himself
>>722666651aren't they the bad guys?
>>722664586It's cool.
>>722666651>>722666752Fuck man I love the art, but I don't trust these fags to do anything good with it
>>722664586Clearly you never played Lost Planet 2
>>722666752>mortar shells in stockings
>>722664975everyone in this universe must be dying of tetanus
>>722666752Nagai needs to sue these faggots>>722666932>It's god's blessing, I don't have to explain shit
>>722666752AWOOGA
>>722665226you can play it right nowA comparable project, Turnip28, finally got official minis as of last year, so I'd say there's a decent shot that Trench Crusade can sell enough minis/STLs to fans to fill their small niche
>>722666932>>722666992that's a human that serves the devil's side, so I guess they get some kind of immunity maybe
>Artillery this close to the wallI don't want to ruin your fun but you use artillery to fire at distant targets and put it WAY in the back of your defensive lines
>>722667162I'm pretty sure those aren't walls, just trenchesThe actual walls would probably be huge
>>722664975Why does he have a baby
>>722667275military ration
>>722664252So wait, is this another one of these dumbass settings where technology, especially firearms, is beaten by melee retards flailing around their gay little knifes because muh magic?
Isn't it canon in the lore that the Catholic Church uses the blood from the shroud of turin to make clones of Jesus Christ?
>>722667221Even if they were trenches, you'd still put your artillery WAY in the back. Having them this close to the front line is retarded
>>722667404I'm saying I don't think that's the front lineIt's just some impromtu defenses around the cannons just in case
>>722664586>He doesn't want a cannon that shatters ear drums from a mile away that is specifically used to fight off the forces of Hell itselfJust say you're gay anon we dont judge here
>>722667325To be fair, once you get close with a knife a gun is at a disadvantage.>>722667330Isn't that shroud a fake?
>>722667506>once you get close with a knife a gun is at a disadvantageJesus fucking Christ
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>>722664975What's the reasoning behind people joining hell in this world? Are there perks? Does Satan promise not torture you for eternity if you join him?
>>722667496There are clearly battle ready troops in the trenches and from what I can see they even put up barbed wire.
Fuck /v/ is garbage>That cannons is a bit big innit?>I think guns are better than knives>I'm so smart
>>722667628see >>722666752You get goth sluts
>>722667275its a grenade.
>>722667628bids for power. being one of the poor fuckers outside of the "safe" zones who just wants the pain to stop.something to do on a boring weekend.being an actual evil niggy who aligns morally more with the devils than angels.
>>722666897That's no fishnets, that's surface grooves, similar to hand genades. It has two functions better grip when handled in rough weather and better fragmentation on detonation cracking along the groove line.
>>722664252It's just the dumbest parts of 40k condensed into edge.
The devs are leftist pro Palestinian basedboys.
>>722665129There's no lore to it. It somehow has shallower lore than GW slop.>>722665143Technically you can play hellknights but those are like, the dregs of Hell crammed into crude suits of armour. It's like the demon equivalent of a flayed quadriplegic.
>>722664586i wonder (waffe)
>>722667635so a defensive position around the guns like a firebase
>>722667628From looking through the lore the majority of them are AIEEEE AIEEEEE SATAN-SAMA I KNEEL, PLEASE STOP RAPING MY ASSHOLE WITH BARBED WIRE, YES YES I WILL BELIEVE GOD IS A TYRANT AND WHATEVER JUST MAKE THE PAIN STOP
>>722664252>No consistent lore and the demons are basically fuck all in the grand scheme of thingsHopefully never as trannies co-opted it anyway.
>>722667628muh fredums
Death to the God-Tyrant YHWH!
>>722667958>we want space marines but make the pauldrons smaller
>>722667670>I think guns are better than knivesYes, they are you troglodyte and any setting that makes them weak at close distances is gay. Every single setting I've seen that does this does monumental mental gymnastics to justify it and it's always fucking stupid.
>>722667502>>722667816Yes and those things were so utterly great that Adolf made shitton of them and then even the allies started copying them and making their own huge ass fuckoff canons after they saw how awesome they are in practice.
>>722667958Can I just buy an artbook?I love the art but everything else around it seems gay
The art looks like AI-slop
>>722668053And then he lost and -ACK'd like a tranny so who cares
>>722668060I dunno if it's still there but the artist, mike franchina, had pretty much everything on his twitter and artstation.www.artstation.com/sirfrancisdrake
>>722668060Keep an eye on ebay when the kickstarter backers get their rule books, it's gonna have exclusive art.
>>722668053The nazis had some weird ideas when it came to weapons.
>>722668047wait until you hear about trench raiders in ww1
>>722667785I opened up the image and zoomed in and it does look like shrapnel grooves but I've never seen a shrapnel mortar shell like that. Also it doesn't make sense because it covers way too much of the shell body, especially the fuze.
>>722667958>posting the editcmon let them see the real version
>>722668185NO THIS IS UNREALISTIC AIEEEEEEI hate psueds that think they're smarter than they are
>>722668185>>722668267>trench raiders>medieval tier weapons used until shotguns semi autos and automatics became more abundantThis isn't the gotcha you think it is
>>722667958Looks painful
>>722668185Worked when they had the element of surprise against people with 1.5m long guns in close quarters.
>>722668185>nades and knife>presumably a satchel full of more nadeswe sent people to the moon but sometimes maybe it's just as amazing that people also threw nades at each other before using knives to kill whatever remained
>>722668394For you
>>722668440>we sent people to the moon
>>722668506Dobson?
>>722668241no wait this is the non-shopped version
>>722668239It was likely painted by some limp-wristed liberal with only partial understanding how weapons and ammunitions work, so the idea is there but it is a little bit off.
>>722668938I mean it almost looks like a literal overlay you do in Photoshop in 5 seconds because it doesn't even adhere to the shell's curvature.
>>722667785>>722668239>>722668938Artillery Witches actively summon bombs directly from Hell and throw them.Your realism fails before the might of Lucifer and his dark legions.
It's a shame clickbaiting youtubers fooled people into thinking this game in any way compares to 40k or should be compared to it.Just because the setting is dark and takes inspiration from history doesn't mean you have come out out of the closet and let us know which flavour of boot polish James Workshop used today.It's just a fun little skirmish game with neat art and story, fuck's sake the rules aren't even done.>>722668938That's fan art you retard.
>>722669086>throw themI knew Satan was retarded but God damn that's next level retardation
>>722664680Some e-celeb tried to politicize the game in a fan discord, and he and his followers got mass banned.The e-celeb got butthurt and launches in to tirades about the game itself. The devs have made no comment about the entire affair.
Nothing worse than pseuds arguing about pedantic nitpicks online because they keep their mouths shut in real life and then seethe in their heads all day that no one knows how smart they are
>>722665143Court of Seven Serpents raises it's hood.
>>722668440These nades are concussion nades without fragments, they were used more for the psychological effect, like you'd throw it and when the enemy took cover you jumped right after since you knew there weren't going to be any fragments, this tactic is described by Rommel in his book about his ww1 experiences.>>722668371>>722668438Sometimes melee would be better because you can kill a sentry with less noise using a knife, sometimes the surprise effect from rushing in melee made it harder for the enemy to defend itself using guns, the point is that even though ranged is better in general, there are situations when it isn't, specially at close range, so wargames try to simulate that with abstract rules.
>>722667325The demons are inventing tech themselves.Shit, they fucked around and made a cannon with a 1000' barrel that fires 666mm shells that scream 'FUCK REALITY' when they land and unmake Creation in a quarter mile radius.>this is all absolutely true, btw
>>722669192They are androids, and have a 500' range per throw.Think Liberty Prime, except lots of them.
>>722664252>gay crusadeEh not worth making vidya for that
>the shitposters that show up in /tg/ are all /v/erminOf course.
>>722664252Of all the sacred anti-fascist machines, Vokha disliked pulling the Sacred Radar the most. The Great Fifteenth Special Operation to Combat Neo-Nazism had already lasted a whole month, and for that entire month they had been pulling the sacred anti-fascist machines on long straps across Holy Rus' to its border with Neo-Nazi Non-Existent Ukraine.During that time, he had managed to pull the sacred tank, the sacred infantry fighting vehicle, and the sacred command vehicle. But the radar was the most irritating, and this was reflected in the strap, which chafed more than on the other sacred machines, and in the crew, who pulled less smoothly, and even in the magpies, who croaked with a mocking cadence inaudible amid the drag of the other machines. Vokhin's dislike most likely stemmed from the incomprehensibility of the radar system, the purpose of which the two prosviri teachers at the parish school couldn't adequately explain. During the first Special Operations, the sacred tank drove and fired, the sacred infantry fighting vehicle carried soldiers, and the commander sat in the sacred command vehicle. But the sacred radar system emitted some kind of waves that could detect enemy vehicles thousands of paces away—and this sounded completely unheard of, like a fairy tale.And all the heroic tales of the first Great Special Operations detailed the exploits our ancestors accomplished with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and cannons, while the radars never destroyed a single neo-Nazi, merely mentioned how many there were each time. The prosviri also sensed the radar's ambiguity and, in response to all the students' questions, either shrugged their shoulders or assigned additional tasks, depending on their mood.
>>722667506The shroud is almost certainly a real burial shroud of a 30-something bearded jewish man from the holy land 2000 years ago. Now whether it was THAT jewish man or just some random schmuck lookalike is up to debate. But the theory that it's some 16th century forgery is highly unlikely.
>>722669517>They are androids,more like flesh puppets animated by infernal magic
>>722669956- Halt! A cry rang out through the column and trumpets blared.The participants in the special operation stopped with relief and began setting up camp right on the side of the road, without removing their vehicles. No one had driven along it for a long time anyway, except for participants in the Great Special Operations, which took place once every ten years; the road was too close to the border with Non-Existent Ukraine.Vokhin's squad gathered in a circle around the company confessor, Senior Kholmogory Dormidont, to listen to the eveningly spiritual strengthening. Dormidont tried to calm himself before the next day's border crossing and constantly reminded himself that participating in the Special Operation was his only chance of being promoted to Junior Prochaniarch. He was already forty-five, a more than respectable age for a clergyman and close to the Annexation. He wanted to live out his final years in comfort and with the special medical care afforded to senior clergy; perhaps he could even make it to his fifties. While Dormidont was already pondering all this for the tenth time that day, the entire squad had gathered around him, and Sergeant Lekha, who knew all the dogmas of the Holy Faith, politely burped, like a favorite.The senior Kholmogory man emerged from his reverie and immediately realized that on the last evening, instead of burdening everyone with cramming and tricky questions, he should instead issue a ready-made instruction and send them off to dinner. Luckily, Lekha was just the man for the job.
>>722666752Why does the bomb have a zoomer perm?
>>722664252>TFW Trench Crusade on /v/.fa/tg/uy here. As if that matters.Trench Crusade is basically a miniature agnostic game that wears grimdark and blanchitsu aesthetics on it's sleeves and being miniature agnostic as it's main selling point. Loads of STL makers have jumped onto the wagon of Trench Crusade which made it popular for profit. And generally Games Workshop's handling Warhammer 40k pretty badly has made a lot of disgruntled miniature wargamers want to look for other pastures. Trench Crusade has some problems. I consider these problems poisonous to Trench Crusade's longevity and potential. It relies too heavily on it's concept art. It decided to be 32mm scale instead of 28mm scale as what most miniature plastic toy games are and it's community is making the successes of Trench Crusade a political statement for obvious reasons. It also made it's own existence supposed to be a middle finger to Games Workshop and religion in general. Except Islam. The Trench Crusade team kind of backed down on that one for obvious reasons but Christianity is still getting the most of the boot. For obvious reasons the cracks are already there in Trench Crusade. There's more cracks like lore inconsistencies, but I shant spent too much time on this.Of course don't tell the Trench Crusade community any of this even if your intention is to make the game better than it currently is or you're a Warhammer shill. An obnoxious hipster complex addled community has taken root in the Trench Crusade community and while these insufferable hipsters may be a minority, the percentage of them to the community is way too damn high to be avoidable. You will eventually encounter these insufferable pricks that have made TC and being a prick in every Warhammer fan's dick their identity. Anyways if you don't like Warhammer 40k, or Trench Crusade but want a miniature agnostic game then I can only name two games: OnePageRules and Xenos Rampant. Wish I could name more.
>>722670047- Sergeant Lekha! Name the Three Liberations! From which Three Evils did we liberate ourselves by embarking on the Great Path of Fighting Neo-Nazism?Sergeant Lekha stood up cleared his throat, and began to recite in a singsong voice:- The First Liberation – from the Evil of Money. Our ancestors were enslaved by neo-Nazi money – tollirs, efros, khryven. We have freed ourselves from the First Evil and returned to sacred ration cards, which allow everyone to obtain necessary food and clothing. The Second Liberation is from the Evil of Things. Our ancestors were enslaved by neo-Nazi Gay Phones, computers, Big Macs, and other incomprehensible evil things. We have freed ourselves from the Second Evil and returned to the original things—simple, understandable, and useful. The Third Liberation is from the Evil of the Internet. Our ancestors were enslaved by neo-Nazi Instagram, Tiligram, Facebook, vile Stories, and TikTok. We have freed ourselves from the Third Evil, and our minds have become truly free and ready to accept sacred teachings.It is truly so! proclaimed Dormidont. And with each year, with each Great Special Operation, we become freer from the Three Evils. Our freedom grows stronger even as we become less and less able to imagine and comprehend what exactly they were." For seven Special Operations, no one but the initiated can even explain what the Third Evil is, and we simply memorize it as a symbol of our faith.Vokha raised his hand and finally asked the question that had been tormenting him for the last week of the campaign."Most Holy Teacher of the Law, the stories about the first Great Special Operations say that everyone had a Kalashnikov, but now only one in ten of us has one. Why is that? If everyone were given a Kalashnikov, they would kill more neo-Nazis?Question six from the Brief Code of Typical Questions and Answers for Special Operation Participants, the Kholmogory man thought, and he began answering, almost without thinking.
>>722670114"Our strength lies not in our Kalashnikovs, nor in whether the sacred anti-fascist machine moves on its own or we drag it along. Our strength lies in our readiness to fight neo-Nazism at any moment, in any condition. Holy Kholmogory taught that each successive Great March Against Neo-Nazism will be purer and more spiritual. With each passing day, our Russian power will grow within each of us, and we will need less equipment and weapons to defeat the neo-Nazis!"Dormidont's voice was calm and weighty."My children, with each Special Operation, every ten years at the end of winter, every Russian carries within themselves more and more Russianness, more and more inner strength. And it's natural that if before, to fight the neo-Nazis, our ancestors, weak and insecure, had to ride in tanks, now we, strong and spiritually developed, easily, almost playfully, roll these tanks." The sacred anti-fascist vehicles have ceased to be a means for us; they are now merely a symbol of our eternal and permanent victory over neo-Nazism and its epicenter—Non-Existent Ukraine.And now—dinner, the latrines, and bed!After eating pea porridge, the soldiers went to bed, ready to cross the border in the morning.The morning greeted the heroes with a light fog. Vokha and the others pulled the sacred vehicles along the road and noticed more and more rusting, charred remains of similarly sacred vehicles on the side of the road—tanks, missile systems, infantry fighting vehicles, and something completely unfamiliar.Dormidont, riding on horseback, fell behind and promised to catch up as soon as he fed his horse.Something clanked in the roadside bushes.
>>722670113>this copypasta again
>>722668185Amazing that the Italians actually used that goofy double smg
>>722670025I have yet seen anything that describes them as flesh, only mechanical.
>>722670210"We're on a training exercise!" Sergeant Lekha, pulling the sacred tank at the head of the column, uttered the ritual phrase.And then a voice rang out, seemingly human, yet somehow lifeless."You're in the crosshairs, lay down your weapons. As you advance, automatic fire systems will activate, firing until your group is completely destroyed. You have one last opportunity to turn around and head back within five minutes. If you continue forward, after twenty meters, the system will activate sooner than five minutes.""What do you mean!" Lekha protested. "We came here to destroy neo-Nazism, and you're ordering us to turn around. Forward!" Vokha began to sweat, as he always did in difficult situations. He stopped toiling, wanting to be as far away from Lekha as possible.For Rus', against neo-Nazism! "Lekha shouted, raising his hand with the sergeant's Kalashnikov and pulling the trigger, just like they'd taught him in school.At first, nothing happened; the Kalashnikov didn't fire. Then, silence all around, the gunfire began to ring out. Everything rumbled, something exploded in the middle of the road, fire was everywhere, and shrapnel was flying in all directions. Vokha rolled off the road to the side of the road and ran back. Something stabbed his leg below the knee, but for now, he didn't care. About an hour later, the remnants of the sacred machines ran out, and he saw Father Dormidont with several carts.Vokha collapsed into the cart and began breathing heavily, while other warriors emerged from the forest, their instincts triggered by the same instinct."You have won, my children!" Dormidont proclaimed. "The special operation has ended with our decisive victory! Now—forward to the capital for your rewards!"
>>722670319The return journey for the victors took only a week and a half—they were transported quickly, in two-horse carts. On the way, Vokha's leg wound began to fester, and it was cut off right at the knee. But the cut was poor, and the stump began to fester and turn black. Vokha no longer remembered entering Holy Moscow—he had fallen into a fever. He was jolted awake when the carts carrying the participants of the Great Special Operation entered Red Square.For the first time in his life, Vokha saw the Kremlin and the Mausoleum, and on the Mausoleum—some figures, barely visible through the fog. But the enormous standard with the two-headed eagle holding the hammer and sickle clearly indicated that the Supreme Putin of All Slavic Lands, Vladimir XI, stood there. In front of the Mausoleum stood some canvas-covered vans, and from its summit boomed a voice amplified by ancient technology."O Great Vladimir the Primordial, enthroned in the Heavenly Bunker, with Shoigu at your right hand and Luka at your left! We, your worthy heirs, according to your legacy, carried out the victorious Fifteenth Great Special Operation to destroy neo-Nazism in Non-Existent Ukraine!"During the Special Operation, we liberated our ancestral lands for three hundred thousand paces in all directions, destroyed two hundred and sixty tanks, one hundred and twenty aircraft, eighteen thousand Azov punitive forces, sixty thousand ordinary soldiers. Ukraine's entire military infrastructure has been destroyed and poses no threat to us! Our losses amounted to only twelve men!" Vokha wanted to get up and object that it wasn't twelve, but much more, but he didn't have the strength, and he really wanted to share his bewilderment with Dormidont, who was standing at the next cart already in the new vestments of a junior prokhaniarch.
>>722670414"Oh, Great Vladimir the Primordial! Here, before our eyes—the heroes, the best of the best, those fighters who defeated neo-Nazism this time! And today, with the victorious conclusion of the Fifteenth Special Operation, we begin a new glorious tradition! These heroes will be raised to you, report on their deeds, and then sit in your Heavenly Bunker at your Infinite Table! Here on earth, they will become the heavenly patrons of all subsequent Special Operations, and with each one, their numbers will increase!"The canvas was pulled from the vans, and everyone gasped—these were the mythical mobile crematoria, thought lost since the Second Special Operation."Great Vladimir the Primordial has shown us his grace and revealed to his servants a great secret—the location of the ancient mobile crematoria! And today we thank him for this gift—with their help, may the ascension of the heroes be accomplished!" The spiritual mentor of the Special Operation participants, with the help of his brothers in faith, will prepare the heroes for ascension!"My son, don't worry, you still have gangrene and a week left at best," was the last thing Vokha heard. Dormidont scolded himself for the vanity that had prompted him to wear the new Prokhaniarch's vestments for the ceremony instead of the old Kholmogory vestments. He tried to slit the throats of those lying on the carts carefully and without splashing, but it was a poor job, and washing them on the very first day was inevitable.
>>722664252Never because its fucking retard and the art is the only good part the story is dumb and I never heard of or seen people play a table top game based on this. I would sooner ask when will we get a Turnip War game.
>>722670212It aint a copypasta. The issues I've talked about have been talked about before. But Trenchers can't seem to comprehend that what they love has faults in it so everybody is being a Warhammer shill has been their coping mechanism for everything.
>>722670714>It aint a copypasta.I've seen the exact same post with the same talking points already.
>>722669207How do I know it’s Arch without even looking it up? What a sperg
>>722664586let me introduce you to the cannonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OQFslDKiI
>>722670870I had vaguely heard of him before.Never cared to engage in parasocial relationships, and celebrity worship is stupid.
The setting instantly got invaded by trannies and is now more dogmatic than fucking reddit, so hopefully never.Cool art though, although nine of it is original.
The official map they released was so bad I lost completely all interest in this setting whatsoever.
I've literally never fucking heard of this shit until two weeks ago, now it's in every algorithm across the internet.Why is this being marketed so hard and by whom?
>>722671196It was everywhere like 2 years ago
>>722670827>I've seen the exact same postSo I managed to 1:1 type an entire post without knowing it?Concerning the talking points, I can understand that part. They've only highlighted pervasive problems of the TC community and TC itself.But pleasePull up an archive link proving that what I wrote is a direct copypasta as you're implying. I'll give ya 10 minutes as my game is almost done or I'm accepting concessions.
>>722671110Wrong dumb fuck. It got invaded by retarded 40k refugees who thought they could do what ever they wanted and go promply told to fuck off.Thanks for sharing your delusions though.
>>72267119640k (one of the biggest communities in sci-fi) has taken a few major left-turns lately and there's a bunch of fans jumping ship and looking for something better or just less retarded than GW.
>Erm the demons are the good guys actuallyHas there ever been a more dorky, embarassing and pathetic nation than America?
>>722664252like the tranny IP its based on any vidya will be released only 41% finished
>>722669207>>722670870>>722671018They directly mentioned arch at a convention and hes right its Troon Crusade
>>722671196Because it's an even more left-leaning/pedotroon friendly version of Warhammer 40Kiddies, so of course the (((algorithm))) pushes it.
Uh the Arch faggots at /tg/ were alerted at a comfy Trench Crusade thread and are raiding usGo back to 40k faggots you are welcome there
>>722668053Giant cannons could make sense in a setting where most of what you're fighting is coming from a singular, stationary portal AND what you're fighting is almost entirely melee. It's not like the forces of hell have gunpowder, long range artillery or an air force .
>>722670113>There's more cracks like lore inconsistencies, but I shant spent too much time on this.Do tell. It's my kind of autism, especially how toddthesda keeps shitting on Fallout every chance they get.
>>722670925Cool,DORF will have one of this big cannon for the empire faction
>>722664252All style and no substance. Kinda like Forever Winter
>>722671780You're listening to the guy who gets kicked out of tabletop communities like jews get kicked out of countries.You would expect retards like you would get the hint by now, god you're fucking stupid.
>>722671449>>722671609Troon Crusade LMAO Your local jannie cant ban us here its /v/ territory now
>>722671797Do you have any examples? It just looks like edgy horror/miseryporn like 40k.
>>722664252Trench foot is probably the closest>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7RzmpzAfg
>>722672045>Forever WinterDecent concept ruined by having artists in charge of game design
>>722671110>>722671449>>722672058making reddit look like a place for genuine discussion
>>722671860>UhBack to Discord with you.>Faggots at /tg/ were alertedThe 3rd post ITT was already shitting on your tranny ass.
>"ok what if not only hell and Satan is evil, but God and Christianity is also.... le bad.">"woah, so are we the bad guys too? Guess we're really no different than them. Such a controversial and provocative concept"
>>722672170Scroll ip the thread, another anon gave a pretty decent summary.The setting is basically "demons good, christians bad", while jews and muslims (despite existing in this world) dindu nuffin.It's just the usual jewish shit, stealing European culture and aesthetics because they are universally liked, while simultaneously shitting on the very same people who created these aesthetics in the first place.
>>722671946Alright.>Inconsistent mockery of the Abrahamic religions. >God is real and for some reason doesn't do shit and for whatever reason people choose to go for hell when since God is real that means Heaven itself is real. The reason isn't really properly explained>Saying the mere existence of people not being political because of a significant population of transgenders in TC. It is factually untrue as history has shown that the personal is political. But that's probably because the TC team doesn't want to deal with a bad can of worms>being a grimdark misery shitshow without any of the humor to create little breaks I'll give 40k credit. They know to make their shit over the top to a humorous way to balance things out>The whole thing feels like a 16 year old atheist's wet dream. The kind of 16 year old who became atheist just to spite his religious parents, but will eventually become religious again after maturing.>The game has kind of become a socio-political statement now. The devs know this and I think it has stifled their original vision of the game as they've now got to be very careful not to piss off the very loud vocal community we all know about. The community's also got Arch and his drones living rent free in their head. Like Arch has fucking won on that front. If you criticize TC even with honest intentions you're gonna be suspected of being a Warhammer fanboy or Arch fanboy. That's how buck broken the community is.
>>722672993>christcuck larper complaintsyawwn
>>722671797>Because it's an even more left-leaning/pedotroon friendly version of Warhammer 40KiddiesAre you actually retarded?
>>722666182Logic is for autists. I don't want to oil my armor or replace the leather straps or do any of the other tedious busywork that's part of realism. I want to have magical weapons whose only concern is ammunition as I fight Eldritch abominations beyond my comprehension.
>>722673235Perhaps, but at least I still have my dick attached.
>>722673067As much as I shit on TC, I want it to be a success. GW has too much influence over the tabletop industry like you wouldn't believe. Denying that there are not any problems isn't gonna make them go away, anon.
>>722667785Didn't they prove that these things actually have less destructive power than modern round grenades?I swear I remember reading a report on /k/ that the thick parts of the grenade end up containing a major part of the explosion, reducing the explosion radius by a lot.
>>722672201what about necrovision
>>722673416You could always say no to both. There's always other table top miniature wargames in the market. The only problem is finding players, mostly.
>>722673416There are issues in everything, but the way you are choosing to engage with this is clearly just to shit on it because it offends your conservative christian soccer mom sensibilities.
>>722673459>You could always say no to bothYeah that's why I mentioned OnePageRules and Xenos Rampant in one of my earlier posts.>The only problem is finding players, mostly.It is the burden of deciding to play a different game. It actually works pretty well. I know a lot of Warhammer 40k players that only stick with 40k because people won't play anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if whole game stores of communities are all thinking the same thing.
>>722673459lacks the Religious crusade tone that trench foot and Trench crusade have had, but it also is easy suggestion
>>722672993>If you criticize TC even with honest intentions you're gonna be suspected of being a Warhammer fanboy or Arch fanboyHoly rent free, impressive that autist managed to break them to such an extent.
>>722673602>but the way you are choosing to engage with this is clearly just to shit on it because it offends your conservative christian soccer mom sensibilitiesI don't know how I'm giving off such an impression. I will admit I am frustrated with TC not because of it's success, but because the things I've highlighted are stifling it's potential in practically every conceivable way.
>>722673602>way you are choosing to engage with this isListing the issues/shortcomings is a bad thing now?
>>722672993>Inconsistent mockery of the Abrahamic religions. It focuses on christianity probably because that's the culture of the creator and most people interacting with it.>God is real and for some reason doesn't do shit and for whatever reason people choose to go for hell when since God is real that means Heaven itself is real. The reason isn't really properly explainedThere are different factions with their own reasons:Followers of the Beast find freedom from thought in mindless survival.Followers of the Black Grail find freedom from the mortal coil through rot and decay.Followers of the Church of Metamorphosis seek enlightenment through transfiguration. They wish to transcend humanity and become something new.Other heretics despise that they are subservient to God and desire to be his equal.>being a grimdark misery shitshow without any of the humor to create little breaks I'll give 40k credit. They know to make their shit over the top to a humorous way to balance things outIt's ok to be dark and edgy if you want to, you don't need a comic relief sidekick in everything, in fact his is the appeal for many people, we dislike the goofy stuff in 40k.>The whole thing feels like a 16 year old atheist's wet dream. The kind of 16 year old who became atheist just to spite his religious parents, but will eventually become religious again after maturing.This is such a meanigless thing to say, people stop believing in God for many reasons, but they still understand religious feelings since they are humans, maybe they want to capture some of those in their art, it doesn't say anything about their conviction on their beliefs or lack of it.>The game has kind of become a socio-political statement now. The devs know this and I think it has stifled their original vision of the game as they've now got to be very careful not to piss off the very loud vocal community we all know about. What is the statement Exactly?
>>722674132>There are different factions with their own reasons:>all thatAlright I think that stuff must have come around later on. TC is a work in progress and that must have been lore refinement I either never noticed or came after I stopped focusing on TC. >It's ok to be dark and edgy if you want to, you don't need a comic relief sidekick in everything, in fact his is the appeal for many people, we dislike the goofy stuff in 40k.That's fair anon.>This is such a meanigless thing to say, people stop believing in God for many reasons, but they still understand religious feelings since they are humans, maybe they want to capture some of those in their art, it doesn't say anything about their conviction on their beliefs or lack of it.I understand where you're coming from. That doesn't change that the guys at TC are trying to make TC lore deep and meaningful while being grimdark from what I've seen. The problem is that it is coming across as Reddit Atheist wankery as much as I want it to be better than that. >What is the statement Exactly?The statement to my knowledge is that right wing aligned people aren't allowed in whatever you can think of. The devs were put into a rock and a hard place when Arch's fans buck broke the community and had to pick a side. But to be fair on the devs I think they would have been damned and their TC project condemned to tiptoe around the sensibilities of loud autists in some form or another no matter which side they picked.
As cool as the art is, TC is ran by gay pisschrist types. I didn't look into it much or join the early trooncord so I missed the weird gay erp in the muslim channels.
>>722674132>What is the statement ExactlyNTA but it's something like:>Trannies/groomers welcome, everybody else fuck off
>>722675003Can you post a single fucking example or are you just going to keep samefagging?
>>722664252>god gives turks a huge fucking wall>says every muslim must go to wall>most of them die on the road Thanks god
>>722674741>>722675003I feel like if you think that the game has to have a proper christian approved theology because it borrows aesthetically from christianity, then you are going to always be disappointed, that's not what the game is about and never will be.
>>722664252Lets see a Kingdom Death Monster game first.
okay thats cool and all, but now post the lore blurb about how they skin children alive and replace their skin with cybernetics to attempt to find the remnant echoes of gods will
>>722676182Too niche, unfortunately. There's a higher chance of a Heroquest video game coming out before KDM.
>>722664252A universe for gay niggers by gay niggers
>>722670113Calling it now, in the next decade, the right wing populists will be as obnoxious as the leftist hipsters were in 2012-2016. They will become so soft and moderate, it will give to the radical left all the political momentum like the alt-right had in 2016-2024.
>>722664252Ukraine looks like this now
>>722664252>warhammer but more boringnever hopefully
I vaguely remember looking into this while half asleep months ago because I thought the art was cool. Isn't all of it done by someone who else they just asked if they could use it and he said sure?
>>722664975>Me on the belt
>>722678050No, the artist Mike Franchina is involved with the game even now.
>>722666992Maybe try to grow up and consume even one thing outside of your little kid miniatures.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escoffion
>>722664252>we want the warhammer audience>proceeds the ban your potential warhammer audience
>>722664252>dude God and Angels are real in this setting but they won't help mankind who is getting raped for 800+ years lmao>God could snap his fingers and send all the demons to Hell/kill every single demon/demon worshipershitty setting
>>722664586It's a heterosexual thing. You wouldn't understand.
>>722666478Hey tardo, Constantine was forced to pass because they couldn't afford the engineer and they didn't have access to the metals he needed in the quantities he needed because they were fucking broke.
>>722667275Phylactery full of abortion souls
>>722664252Anything fro trench crusade when?
Reserving my final judgement until we see how Jews are handled in the setting
>>722680747God works in mysterious ways
>>722680902>Reserving my final judgement until we see how Jews are handled in the setting
>>722664252>Woke Crusade
>>722680835Just sell some of those ornate golden crosses, pretty sure Jesus isn't a fan of them anyways
>>722680747Well sweetie, God is actually evil and transphobic :)
>>722680747>>722681059>if God exists why bad thing?I thought you christcucklarpers were supposed to know the asnwer to that.
>>722676484>pic
>>722681229there's a difference between a bad thing and the opening of a gate to Hell and an endless war against Hell for almost a thousand years who killed hundreds of millions or even billions retard
>>722676182Never happening. Closest you're getting is KDM simulator. Poots is far too autistic about making this game his way and that means it has to be ~boutique~ and quality at the sacrifice of pretty much everything else. Kinda admirable but fuck him.Anyway TC seems OK but I admit I don't 'get' how anyone but the most deranged would side with hell. In order to get to one of the hell portals and be all cool and shit you have to be the evilest motherufcker since evil came to evil town like raping 60 babies per minute and killing pregnant women just after shooting their dog kind of evil. There's no way there can be that many humans ready and willing to sign up for super hell.
>>722682138mysterious ways
>>722682179>but I admit I don't 'get' how anyone but the most deranged would side with hell.This is the issue with a lot of demons etc in fantasy. There's a reason demons in real world religions almost always trick humans rather than make open deals: nobody is going to sign off on eternal suffering knowingly.
>>722682870Yeah like even Chaos in warhammer does a lot of trickery and corruption in addition to deranged retards going 'Yeah I totally wanna be a plaything of fickle evil gods when I die lmao it's cool'.Here there seems to be no trickery and its more 'You have to be this baby raping evil to join us'Like literally if you aren't evil enough you melt into a puddle or some shit just by getting too close to a hellgate.Feels like anyone who isn't a completely deranged retard would fight to not go to hell.
>>722682179>but I admit I don't 'get' how anyone but the most deranged would side with hellGo look up the Heretic Berserker on Mike's Artstation with the big vagina
>>722683791>Gotta log in which means I have to create an accountnah
>>722664680Trench Crusade did the equivalent of picrel, to make sure their IP doesn't get hijacked by tradcath larpers that go "deus vult" every 5 minutes.
>>722673416You should shill Infinity then, it is the only tabletop wargame that fucking tried to push things forward mechanically.
>>722668035Hellknights are the closest to a Space marine/chaos knight equivalent.That's an Anointed, which is more of an inbetween.
>>722664252Give it like a decade assuming it doesn't fade into obscurity
>>722682138A million billion humans are just as insignificant to god as 1 human(also just as significant). If WWII, aids, and international pedophile clubs of the elite are part of the plan I don't see why God would give a shit about this.Have some faith fake christian
Damn reading this thread makes me glad I dropped all my /tg/ shit back in 2016.
>>722680747>>God could snap his fingers and send all the demons to Hell/kill every single demon/demon worshiper>Tourist doesn't know
>>722684402>make a game about the church fighting an invasion of demons from hell>say they don't want rightwingers or christians playing itisn't that what you people call cultural appropriation?
>>722682179>>722682870Could be sidestepped if retards writing it made hell paradise for evil psychopaths>it will be you who will boil people and poke them with pitchfork for minor sins>it will be you who get to rape suicided whores for all eternity>join mobile hellfantry today and prove you have what it takes to be most evilest motherfucker next to satan himself service guarantees eternal damnation
>>722685465I think it's good to bar the most annoying possible type of Imperial Guard player from feeling welcomed in that game.
>>722685612>no you don't get it its okay when WE do it chudevery time
>>722664252This was such a cool concept when I first heard about it, but after reading this thread, I'm sad that it failed to pan out to its full potential. Now it seems to be poisoned by the wrong types of people, and once they've dug their roots in, it's over.
>>722685465you CAN play it like a normal person, you just can't turn gaming into a preaching session, it's simple
>>722686852you are so smart and independent, not a NPC at all
>>722687297Yeah, sure, I'm not the target audience after all.
>>722664252Right after HEAVY GEAR 3 BAYBEEEEEEEE
>>722670113>Of course don't tell the Trench Crusade community any of this even if your intention is to make the game better than it currently is or you're a Warhammer shill.Or an Arch fanboy or a tradcath larper.They've always got something to keep the veil over their eyes that Trench Crusade is perfect.
>>722667816>>722670925https://youtu.be/uoiYJaoOC_8
