Why the fuck did they name it "2xko" it sounds like some tranny's discord username or some shit

11 character roster isn't that bad, honestly. Basically skullgirls sized sans the hand drawn animations.
I think the problem is the general presentation, charisma and gameplay. There's no character I feel compelled to play, the game has too many buttons for such a simple fighter and the visuals are as bland as nen impact

>>722664967
11 is bad when this isn't an indie studio, and they purchased that Rising Thunder studio ages ago. 5 a year is pretty good pace though so in 2 years with 21 characters that isn't "terrible". What might be terrible is the selection cause if Caitlyn is next like the Jinx lines reference then we probably get a big ass Arcane push with Jayce close after.

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Tag fighters are inherently broken and ass to both play and watch and millenials ate up that slop only because they were retarded babies at the time MvC came out. 2XKO is even worse because it's made by Riot, a chinese-owned developer who is known for doing nothing but copy successful games and make inferior copies and MOBAslop
If you're a FAGGOT who disagrees meet me up in the JP(crossplay off) server 1 in Granblue

>>722665408
you had me until the autocombo slop which is no better than chinkslop

>>722664608
11 is obviously really bad for a tag game, but if they can actually keep to their proposed 5 seasons+characters a year (and this release season with Teemo and Warwick doesn't count as one of those five) for at least two years then I guess it's fine.
I don't have much faith in that though.

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Why the fuck would you name it "2XKO" when you have one of the most recognizable IPs in vidya. Why not name it "League of Legends: Fighters" or "League of Legends: Arena" or something along those lines. Imagine if the people that made Dragon Ball Fighterz had named it "3VS3" just because is a 3 versus 3 tag fighter, its just fucking retarded.

I give it a year only because Riot will desperate pump money in it.

>>722664608
They picked the worst characters possible
who the fuck cares about Braum and Illaoi

>>722665974
Nah 2-3 years of pumping money, hoping the cosmetics is enough for whatever playerbase they get. They are launching with swimsuits which tells you all you need to know.

>>722664967
>charisma
literally what are you even saying zoom zoom

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NO TAHM
NO PLAY

Is Runeterra still around?

>>722666253
Why, it's a real word, ESL zoomie.

>>722664608
11 chars means 55 teams
it's enough for hardcore players, but maybe not enough for casuals.
a hardcore player can spend months on Ekko alone.
but a casual who wants to do nothing other than mash auto combo on Riven or Thresh, well for them it's simply not enough.

>>722667474
Technically yes but they canned PVP entirely and obviously they aren't pushing as much content for PVE as before

>>722666039
i initially didn't like a lot of the picks, but after playing it i'm just glad that they didn't pick half a dozen annoying zoners. since league has a lot of potential ones. the roster grew on me for the most part. not a fan of Braum and Darius though. although Braum skins make him more likeable aswell

>>722664608
Is Riot even making money anymore?

hype it's out

>>722664608
Because Riot hasn't given people who aren't the FGC a reason to give a fuck about it other than "it's their new game, play it"
Seriously, the marketing for this has almost exclusively been aimed at the FGC whos the only ones that really gives a shit, especially with them deciding to make it a fucking tag fighter that just lifts shit from other better games.
Ofc the FGC is shallowing this whole because they always hype up every new release before dropping it like a hot rock after a month.
Also yeah 2XKO is a genuinely horrible fighter that doesn't even signal it's a league and legends spinoff, which is the whole point of using the brand

thats today? where's the shilling? where's the spam? i thought they paid for advertising?

>>722664967
>11 character roster isn't that bad
yes it is
>skullgirls
is an indie game with hand drawn animation frames, 2XKO is a Riot production with over half a decade of development using 3D models and preexisting designs from a game with over 100 characters, there shouldn't just be 11 characters.
>>722666039
they were 100% picked because of that failed spinoff game starring them, same with how most of the cast is just picked because of Arcane

>>722664608
11 characters was already unacceptable by the late 90s and that's for 1v1 fighters. A tag fighter from 2025 with only 11 characters is a complete joke specially considering the game was on development for almost a decade, they had a jump-start from converting another game AND they have a roster of almost 200 characters to pick from league so it's not like they were making all-original characters

>>722670005
no one cares, not even Riot, they're just shitting out the game now to get it out before the competition, maybe get some awards and then maybe make back some of the money they've wasted for 10 years.
When Tom Cannon himself says on twitter the game isn't actually done it becomes pretty clear Riot was sick of their shit, expect layoffs.

>tag fighter
>botnet anti cheat
>marvel clone without mahvel's execution
>boring characters
>combos arr rook the same
I don't see anyone but pros playing this game past the release window.
Riot has promised them riches and a stable income while crapcom barely cares about them.

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>>722667474
They're trying. They got absolutely gutted in their budget, but they're still pushing new stuff for the PvE mode regularly.
They even tried to have a big event recently where they used the old card skin art as the basis for retrains/alternates of existing champs while adding only a few new full artworks containing multiple followers to save on the art cost. With that, they were able to put out more champs at once than usual, with 6 "new" champs that all turned out pretty good.
Problem being they still don't know how to monetize well so the new champs were tied to TERRIBLE lootcrates. You could unlock them easily enough, but basic stuff like their "Plus 1 Starting Mana" powers were locked to a currency you needed 50 of and were lucky to get 2 to drop from the crate.

It's 2025. Fightans will release, hyped by every eceleb under the sun and die the same month as people crawl back to SF6 for God only knows what reason.

>>722670445
honestly this is just sad for a game people said was a great if not the best digital card game, that it has become this ass and basically dead

>>722664608
>riot games
>chink
not interested

>>722664608
The timeline for 2XKO
>releases Oct 7 (you are here)
>FGC hails this as the greatest fighting game that has saved the genre (they always do this)
>people like Max will claim this proves F2P is the future
>critics that dont actually play fighting games call it good
>decent playernumbers because its a new riot game
>wins fighting game of the year because really what else is gonna win it?
>months pass
>player numbers start dropping because its a fighting game and casuals wont stick with it
>FGC starts turning on it
>near the release of Marvel Tokon the FGC has forgotten it
>year one FGC calls it bad, 2xko has a few hardcore players left
>Riot has one big tournament for this game and never again
>game stagnates as despite them pumping out more skins the game just wont turn a profit
>after year two they announce that they'll sadly have to "scale back on the development of 2xko"
>this is code for the game is dead
>FGC creators who previously said it was gonna be the greatest thing ever now makes "why did 2xko die?"
>meanwhile Strive is somehow getting a 6th season pass

>>722670581
Its an all around package and honestly the best ranked/queue system. You can just queue from training mode and not interact with avatar shit at all. You can set the character you want to play, and the stage all before queuing. In 2XKO you actually have to run over to the cabinet when you match and pick the characters+stage every single time.

>>722670678
The reason it was so good was because it was so giving.
The issue was that it made no money even with how popular it was getting. Riot saw it as too much of a loss, even with their usual loss leading strategy, and fucked around with it till all but killing it off.

The biggest issue IMO was when they saw the writing on the wall and instead of going all in on the PVE while they had the budget, they tried to push more PVP with the last real tries.
Now that they're sticking to the PVE, the overall development is healthier, but they're so fucked already that there's not really a good way back up.

>>722670853
The FGC has done more damage to fighting games than anything else.

>>722671029
this is the one thing I don't get why games continue to fucking do, the arcsys lobbies with walking around and actually having to go up to the cabinet to play. It's fucking retarded and no one likes it after 2 weeks because the novelty has completely worn off. The easy spectating in 2xko is like the one plus of it but it still sucks.

>>722670853
you already spammed this yesterday
2 more weeks sister

>>722670581
>to SF6 for God only knows what reason.
because it is genuinely the most solid and popular modern fighter there, and people make fun of the avatar shit but it's other things you can do in the game, World Tour constantly gets new content, you can do trials, arcade, fuck around with the extreme modes with friends, its lobbies are simple and fast to set up, battlehub can be completely avoided if you want to and the list goes on.
2XKO is the bare minimum with Strives tower

>>722671249
>>722670853
People want to be good at FGs but don't want to actually put in the time/effort to get good. It's why every FG sees a spike after EVO/major tournament X because people go into it with delusions that if they just play a bit they too can be on the tournament main stage one day
then they get disillusioned and drop it

best fighting game since 2012

the funny thing is the thing that will actually kill 2xko is the offline exe they added, you will be able to play every single character for free with all the cosmetic unlocked.
Now they added this to attract TOs to run 2xko over every other game, but what this will really do is just let lab monsters and people that only play with their friends to never touch online or pay a dime for skins, hell someone will probably figure out a way to play it online too, so if you end up liking the game there will be little reason to actually play online and no reason to pay.
its runeterra all over again

>>722664608
>2v2
>11 characters
That's not enough
Also the betas were complete shit

>>722671865
>hell someone will probably figure out a way to play it online too
parsec

>league of slops

>>722671865
What will actually kill the game is Riot's track record of buffing and nerfing characters according to who is getting cosmetics.
The demographic for fighting games are not going to stand for that the way League players do.

>>722672339
the tekken shitstorm surely was enough of a warning for devs to not go full retard

>>722672473
Riot is used to their fans eating shit and getting fucked in the ass with rakes

>>722664608
requires vanguard, not going to install this shit

>>722664967
>isn't that bad
It is when you're Riot, 2XKO was built off of a functioning prototype they acquired years ago, and they've spent years reworking that prototype. Also, the tag aspect makes the roster appear even smaller, even though it adds multiple possible combinations of characters. I mean RoA2, an indie game with a shoestring budget that did a DLC character reveal out of the creator's basement, launched with 10 characters and is developing 4 characters a year. I feel like Riot doesn't really have an excuse with their resources and how long they've spent developing the game.

>>722672473
It's Riot, lol.

>>722664608
ill probably try it later in the day but yea just not that hype about it. its weird i really liked their previous game they were working on rising thunder but then they got bought out and I'm just not that interested in league characters. also I'm running the risk of interacting with league faggots we already got an influx of them with the tyler1 retard and now there are a lot more 1 and done niggers online

>>722674667
>yea just not that hype about it.
it's not just you, theres zero hype for this outside of fgc twitter, and thats probably because they haven't actually marketed to anyone else, seriously most it has been tweets on twitter, but also the fact it has taken over half a decade to come out killed a lot of the hype when theres so many other options out there now and coming

>>722675541
Also the name is atrocious

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>it got funny coins
>1000 funny coins is 10 bucks
>skins are 20 buck
>each

>>722675883
Alt costumes in SF6 are like 5 bucks, what the fuck is riot smoking?

>>722675883
yeah
they also have gacha in league now
so expect that
and $500 bucks skins, which is also a thing in league now
lol just kidding 2xko won't survive long enough for that

>>722664608
>11 Characters
>4 of them are arcane slop + 1 from the same region
>Only 1 niche pick that was already on another game

>>722675935
They desperately need to make a return on this game's 10 years of development.

Tag fighters are too autistic. Kof is more fun

>>722675997
It is funny if you just watched Arcane and played that RPG, you have basically the entire roster + Darius and Teemo

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Oh btw the 20 buck option is 2200 so you cant spend all of it because of course
>>722675935
>it's f2p so it's fine
>>722676013
this
>>722675982
oh I know, it's just really funny seeing how desperate Riot are to make back any money from this

>>722675935
Sf6 ain't f2p

>>722675997
I think that Riot actually believes Arcane will draw people to this game. It's kind of crazy.

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Hey Arcane sucker! pay up 90 buckaroos for 3 hecking Arcane skins!!

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>>722675997
This. You've got a roster of freaks and the freakiest shit you've got in the game is Teemo. What are you doing?
Add the Cat as an Assist-only character. Add HIM. Have some fucking fun instead of shilling your dogshit show.

>>722676013
charging more only works if there are enough whales
you make more money from the average player with lower prices. that's why steam is so successful

>>722676523
I play video but I rather get her other skin

>>722676765
Freaks make no money

>>722677178
Riot doesn't care, they know the player count is gonna be low so they'd rather try and overcharge the hell out of them and praying theres enough people caring about the league of legend ip to get any sizable amount of money back

>simple inputs
>women are too covered
>jinx barely counts as a woman

shant

>>722664608
>over a decade of development time
>publicly known to have gone through a minimum of 3 complete game play reworks
>11 characters
>characters seemed to be a combination of safe and generally popular instead of focusing on adding characters that make sense from a lore and character skills standpoint
>locks beta behind getting lucky to get chosen by daddy riot for a free game
I'm honestly surprised they even released the game after how fucked the dev time has been. plus the dev costs much have been insane and it is going to have to be crazy successful for years just to have a chance of them breaking even on it.

I'm waiting for Tokon. This Riot game is mid and we all know it. Plus the launch roster is a 6/10 and we all know that, too.

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>>722664608
>F2P fighter
>Beta liked
>actual release is monetization hell with insanely overpriced microtransactions
BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES

>>722679437
And tokon isnt? it looks just like garbage, even worse it looks like mobile garbage and we all know it

>>722679504
I can't argue for what Tokon has or doesn't have because it's not out yet. I don't think 2XKO (retarded name btw) will stand a chance against it.

>>722679498
it's Riot, they get away with it because it's expected and they pay streamers to shill the game

What are the shop options for unlocking characters? Or rather all the options for unlocking characters? That's my one major issue with the game, because I'd rather pay a lump sum or do something to unlock the characters that pay for a currency.

What is this game trying to be? I swear it's being handled as bad as Multiversus but without the IPs that people actually cared about

>>722680920
>What are the shop options for unlocking characters?
pay 1000 credit for them after a week, pay 10 bucks instantly or grind them in the battlepass or get character unlock tokens

>>722681928
>>722680920
Its weird.

For the first 3 weeks of release, you pay 1000 KO points aka 10 bucks. You grind the battle pass and unlock it via this recruitment event which means you can't stockpile for future characters by playing alot in one seasons.

Or after those 3 weeks, you can do the 1000 KO points, some other form of grinding missions, or pay 10000 credits which is the free currency. Also, there is a 12k credits cap meaning you can't just play alot early on and get like 50k credits and quit for a year, come back and buy 5 characters.

>>722675883
>they added micros

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL YOU LEARN

>>722675935
in SF6 you pay a billion dollars to unlock the characters instead of skins

>>722664608
>11 character roster
>half is locked behind paywall
>the shittiest control scheme known to man

this will get shutdown in half a year

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>>722664608
I know nothing about this series but I want to hug and fug the fox lady. Is this the game for me?

>>722665150
The most popular fighting game has like 8 playable characters

>>722682874
Maybe, it's free and Ahri has a ton of porn.

>>722664608
>10+ years of development
>don't launch console versions with PC release
it's like they are actively trying to do as much as possible to make sure this shit flops and fails miserably

>>722685628
>no console version
thats the craziest part of this whole thing, yes a lot of the FGC has moved to PC but a large amount of it are still on consoles for that couch action, granted you cant play local co-op in 2xko without going into the offline client but still

>>722664608
It's not coming out today faggot. It's the pre release and only for Pkeks. Call me when it is the real release.

>>722664967
X-Men vs Street Fighter, the very first 2vs2, and therefore the most ancient one, had 16 characters on launch.

Fuck off.

>consolejeets thinking they're anything but second-class citizens
kek

>dogshit roster
>vanguard
>looks like ass
>people hate tag fighters (they're retarded)
>whatever the fuck that button layout is
It was always going to be dead on arrival

>>722685750
>>722685628
It is weird because Wild Rift initial announcement had a console announcement too and it never happened. Valorant has a console version but who knows how long the 2XKO version will take. I wonder if its going to cost a certain amount they don't know they will get back because its F2P.

>>722685943
>It's the pre release
so it's out today

>>722686158
>I wonder if its going to cost a certain amount they don't know they will get back because its F2P.
I think this is it, because afaik to be able to have crossplay with playstation devs need to pay a subscription

>>722670853
Strive will die the second Tokon starts gaining traction. Nobody gives a shit about that fucking thing anymore and Tokon is the perfect excuse for Arc to fucking leave it behind while saving some face.

>>722671865
Offline is pointless if you don't have some story mode or arcade

You can't call friends to play everyday.

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>>722686195
come on no anon, we both know that a game released to the general public with a season battle pass attached doesn't actually count as a release because it says early access next to the game. that means you aren't allowed to say anything even slightly negative because it's not actually out yet despite the fact you and anyone else can play it and any and all issues will definitely be addressed and fully fixed when the game actually releases.

>>722686743
That just means you're beta testing for free.

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>>722686958
then what was the beta test if the early access is a beta?

it's so fucking baffling how they dont even give you the option to use motion inputs, the control scheme is genuinely fucking awful.

>>722665150
>>722683608
shilling arcane with this is so fucking retarded
but I guess it's been in development for like 6 fucking years, how could they have known no one would give a fuck about arcane now and that they blew it up by having too much DEI hubris
adding Vi's dyke lover as DLC is not going to fucking make any niggers (the main fighting game community) play this
this will be at 100 players in a year
it at best can hope for very very brief success that will rapidly dwindle
11 dogshit characters several of which shill arcane can't carry this

also,
>tag fighter
literally no one actually likes these

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>>722664608
>>722664608
>100 dollar founder pass from a multimillion dollar company
>people defending it
If I had a nickel for every time this happened I'd have 2 nickels

>>722687467
This shit will die even faster than Multiversus did.

>playing a game called 2KOX

>>722679498
why did this game die?

>>722675883
The art is horrible at selling the skins. Damn I look at these and all I can feel is boredom. Even the teemo skin which is just the skin from league recycled looks worse

>>722676523
>Getting this greedy on day one
Dead on arrival gg

remember when people said valorant would die within a year too? and now it's completely overtaken CS2?

>>722688328
Yeah they tried to entice players to the game with pool party ahri and jinx but I don't think literally anyone took that bait.

>>722688585
>and now it's completely overtaken CS2?
it hasnt tho lmao what

>>722682874
You get a better bang for your buck playing league for ahri. She is popular and easy to pick up and in case you're whale there is a 500 dollar skin for her

>>722675883
wow this is ugly

>>722688647
Can you post the artwork for the skins?

>>722688994
I don't think the fighting games have splash arts to give players an illusion of having a good deal.

>>722664608
fighting games are for blacks, i shan't

>>722664608
today? where the fuck is the marketing?

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>>722689090
AY YALL, DIS YT BOI AINT GOT NO HANDS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>722687038
The pre-beta

>>722689147
They know it will flop so didn't bother probably.

Buy a fucking a... wait there are no shills here

>>722687298
It's not that no one cares about Arcane. It's just that the Arcane crowd don't play videogames of any kind. They're all busy with their faggot fandom shit like fanfics and fanarts. Add to that how 70% live to play politics and fight the opposite side on social media 24/7 and you can see how they will never have time for videogames.

Riot's biggest mistake was aiming Arcane towards that crowd and not one that would actually play videogames once they finish the series. LoL suffered because of this too. Arcane idiots came, realized they suck ass, and then left to keep fighting heterosexual people on Twitter.

>>722688285
Oh boy, where do I start...

>>722689508
Arcane viewers would play games but not the types of games Riot thinks they'd slop up.
They should've made a dating sim or something incredibly casual but immersive to the world rather than trying to drag them into playing a MOBA that has the worst new player model ever or a fighting game.
A lot of the narrative and aftermath in the events of the tv show was missing and they could've just taken that as an advantage and released a game to resolve a lot of loose ends (ww not having a snout, if jinx really did die, urgot, renata, camille, blitzcrank, singed/orianna, seraphine, zac, twitch, etc).

>>722679498
the only genre more dead than fighting games are platform fighters. smash players only like smash.

>>722689878
Literally all they needed to do was some phone game where you don't have to use all your braincells active to play.

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Why the fuck is this game called 2xko? Thats so awkward.

>>722688780
>You get a better bang for your buck playing league for ahri.
There can only be one Ahri per match in LoL, althoughbiet

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>>722666285
Based

Honestly they should have tried making a platformer. There is always a crowd hungry for platformers and they don't feel as demanding in many cases that I can see a lol player dropping his assfaggots for a week to maybe try it.
Hell they could make it about tristana for gamer to coom over but not go entirely gacha game levels of horny but still suggestive enough.
And most importantly they should keep the team small so that they can cut their losses more easily if it flops.
But it's riot were talking about, they never get anything right

>>722690587
Just go first pick every time and if you don't get her play the second hottest character for you

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>>722690462
A dating sim would've fixed League of Legends itself.
I will never not think about it.

>>722688780
>in case you're whale there is a 500 dollar skin for her
They are truly testing the limits of human stupidity.

>>722690842
I would play it if kindred was an option because I'm a furry

>>722688285
basically, it died a first time because it just wasnt that well made of a game, then they decided to remake the whole think in UE5 which killed all hype and when it came back it was slow as hell and was monetized to hell which killed it because unlocking a character without paying was a damn nightmare

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>>722691015
Theyre not gonna cater to you if it'd have furry options, it'd have Volibear.

>>722664608
They picked really boring characters for it. No yordles? Where the fuck is Jax? Volibear? Cho'gath? Tahm Kench? Azir? Annie Tibbers puppet character?

>>722686438
You niggas have been saying this for YEARS

>>722664608
it's actually kinda crazy how this game is generating no buzz, the thread here is barely moving, /vg/ is basically dead, twitter is kinda dead too and Twitch viewers are extremely underwhelming

>>722671389
more like people get inspired to play again, go online, realize 90% of the people they meet are soulless automatons running a flow chart for 2k hours using the same 5-6 characters

its tedious

>>722671865
>so if you end up liking the game there will be little reason to actually play online
People who actually like the game will want to play it regularly with a variety of people, retard.

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>>722664608
>tagslop with like 8 characters
>already has $100+ cosmetic bundles

>2 hour long combos that require perfect timing
Yeah Im not gonna play this. Maybe Ill watch it on Youtube sometimes if it doesn't die in a week.

>>722690836
Still far from guaranteed, if he's only playing for a single character at least you can guarantee it in the fighting game. Also you don't have to rely on teammates.

>>722691503
If you can't beat flow charters you were never going to amount to anything

>>722688585
>remember when people said valorant would die within a year too?
No, not really.
>and now it's completely overtaken CS2?
Source?

>>722691525
The hilarious shit is those 3 skins that cost 100 bucks, you can't buy separately. Like god DAMN

>>722691247
They can cater to both of us
and yummi coomers

>>722691879
I don't normally care if devs want to fund a f2p game with cosmetics but a bundle like that at launch just makes it look like an exit scam.

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>>722692016
Atleast for 100 bucks you get 3 skins.

For 50 you get 0 real skins, you get avatar costumes and unique finishers. It only gains value years down the line when you champion tokens actually can be used.

im so annoyed they decided to make this a tag game. i would have played it to death otherwise

>>722664608
>2xko
should have kept Project L

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>>722692134
>champion tokens
Oh hey, Multiversus had the same exact thing

Who's unlocked by default, the whole starting roster of 11 or is it just like Darius, Ahri, Ekko and Yasuo and you have to pay/grind for the rest?

>>722692016
I wouldn't be surprised if Riot's going hard on them to make back the dev costs. 10 years in development just to see people make fun of the roster size while the devs are still coping that it's a WIP surely has to be pissing somebody at that company off. Even if they weren't expecting much profit out of a fighting game.

>>722692347
the latter, it's Darius, Ahri, Ekko, Yasuno, Braum and Illaoi
Jinx, Vi, Blitz, Teemo and furry are all characters you need to pay for

>>722692347
Jinx, Blitz, Vi, Teemo and Warwick are locked by default, its the other 6 that are unlocked.

>>722692440
The should have had a tard wrangler for the team so something like that won't happen

>>722692134
>Atleast for 100 bucks you get 3 skins.
you know what else I could get for 100 bucks? SF6 Year 1+2 and the Season 3 season pass.
Or
5 copies of Silksong

>>722692462
>>722692482
Lame, without those old champs unlocked there aren't even two characters I'm interested in playing

>>722691673
nigger, Ive been playing fighting games for over a decade, flowcharters are not an issue to beat, its fucking boring and a waste of time

>>722691015
I mean like a dating game with all regions and characters.
That would make Riot so much money they couldn't even imagine.

>>722692542
I think they were making a point of trying to give devs time and freedom only to find out they can't be trusted. The only ones it's actually paid off with has been the Valorant team.

>>722693107
They should have put in the tard wrangler when they scrapped the game the first time

>>722692309
can't wait for Riot to add the fighters road to 2xko thats gonna be so glorious ass

This shit is so DoA
I wonder if they already knew it, but were just in too deep to cancel it
It's baffling how this company cannot put anything out
LoL released in like 2009. right?
And since then, they've only put out Valorant (found an audience as CS:GO for zoomers, faggots, and bugmen). Everything else has been a huge flop or dies before ever seeing the light of day. Riot Games is just a humongous money sink, at this point

>>722692016
didn't multiversus also have $100 bundles for skins?

>>722695057
I'm pretty sure riot just wants a peice of the fighting game stream viewership pie.

>>722669824
They haven't given the fgc a reason to play it either, babies first casualised tag fighter is not a compelling reason to play their game, they are operating in the domain of gran blue and DNF duel which are games for nobody. E-celeb shills are not the fgc.

>>722695213
What pie, there is no large audience for fighting games especially live streams. Hell at best they probably hope Tyler1 streams it like he was grinding in SF6.

>Riot
Wouldn't touch this shit with a ten foot pole

>>722695906
I think they want the big event viewership.
But the marvel days are past us.

i wish it were more like street fighter and less like dragon ball fighterz

>>722695057
>Valorant (found an audience as CS:GO for zoomers, faggots, and bugmen
I have no interest in Valorant so that's clearly not true.

>>722664608
No one cares about fighting games that aren't named street fighter or tekken. That's just how it is.

>>722664608
Why would anyone care about fighting games?

>>722670581
SF6 is unironically the best fighting game released in the past 5 years. I say this with the utmost sincerity.

>>722664608
League of Legends went full homo years ago with Arcane and changing character's sexuality as a selling point
The enshittification and wokeism already took a hold on Riot. Charging absurd amounts for a skin and rising normal ones is the squeeze before the bail.

Does f2p monetization just not work for fighting games unlike single-unit RTS and shooters?

>>722665408
TRVKE

>>722664608
I refuse to install Vangaurd on my PC

>>722697249
Lesbians are for straight men, faggot.

Is it me or did the gameplay shown off look crazy slow?

>>722670581
>for God only knows what reason
Because all the other games are much worse. "But SF6 is so dogshit, I hate it, I hate it!" Sure. The other games are still worse.

Contrarianism and hate is honestly tiring.

>>722700032
You NEED to hate EVERYTHING.

>>722692159
One of the few valid critiques here.

>>722664608
Just wait for the dota smash game

>>722700032
Yeah, that's why everybody on this board is constantly crying about how miserable and tired they are.

>>722692159
same
tag shit is radioactive

>>722664967
>the problem is the charisma
Kill all zoom niggers holy shit stop misusing words

>>722664608
>not having all fighters available and unlocked
Not even the season 0 people. Marvel rivals and overwatch showed all characters being free and selling skins is profitable. Riot knows this 99% of their revenue is from skins. Yet they still pulled this shit. They clearly are trying to maximize the profits than make a viable fighting game. Pay for fighters AND having 20 dollar skins? Gatekeeping F2P players for 3 weeks for new champs get the fuck outta here. Tokkon already showed how dogshit this game looks with 4 fucking stages and 1 locked.
Tldr greedy jew riot locking characters will kill this game

>>722664608
i have fighting games fatigue...

>>722664967
>11 character roster isn't that bad
No one has 11 characters upon booting up the game. The main issue with shit like this is that wait a year for Sf6 or tekken 8 and you'll get MORE characters for cheaper with the 1st year edition of shit. Wait a year for 2xko and there's just more shit to grind out or spend money on. It's unsustainable and is there to drive people to purchase shit instead of grinding stuff out. Like this game should have been $19.99 all fighters and stages included but now it'll be more expensive than base sf6 or tekken for vastly less content especially no single player shit.

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Holy flop, lmao

Holy shit, I'm feeling exhausted just by speed reading this thread.
This site became a cesspool of misery.

someone gimme a warwick bnb >:3

>>722664608
Nobody gives a fuck about LEague of slop anymore

i fucking cant get into fighting games
why do i find them so difficult

Making it a tag fighter is retarded. It should have been a traditional fighting game

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>>722675883
>Meanwhile this is 7 bucks
Riot's true vision is milking retards from league who dont know any better fighting games. Base sf6 was on sale for 20 bucks a few weeks ago WITH single player content. 20 bucks for a single skin is wild

>>722665408
Tag fighters are inherently casual, and that's a good thing

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>>722675883
>All of this and you still gotta pay for the champions too
Lmao how the fuck are you gonna make Capcom look like a saint. This game is cooked

>>722702405
the cosmetics are overpriced, yes. but no, you don't need to pay for the game or the champs. you'll get the full roster pretty easily just by playing.

>>722701575
once it clicks, it clicks for all of them

>>722700987
>>722700269
What's the big deal about tag? Without it you just see the same 2 characters over and over. Now we'll see at least 4.

I mean, it’s fun to have the entire friend in one match instead of doing round robins like we usually do I guess. Vi’s jab is too fucking quick though fuck rushdown.

>>722666285
He's the most obvious grappler besides Blitz and they passed him over

>>722701378
my guess is the real marketing hasn't started yet since there's not even a console version

>>722701378
How is a 7 dollar indie game at 42k

>>722702951
>you'll get the full roster pretty easily just by playing
Subjective. Also charging 10 fucking dollars for a single fighter shows how overpriced riot thinks their shit is worth.
And you can bet your ass the amount of grind they expect is worth more than 10 dollars.

Just post some Ahri futa

>>722701575
Some fighting games are genuinely just kind of aids to pick up as a new player.

>>722704182
That one picture that’s Hecarim on Lillia on Soraka on Ahri makes me diamonds everytime

When Project L was first announced I thought about how cool Swain would be as a character that revolved around an Install super because he was my favorite champ over a decade ago. Then I realized he's never getting in and also they reworked him in League and he doesn't turn into a cool crow monster anymore so there's no point

>>722664608
too small of a roster for sure, especially with how long it took to make. it will fail, but only because fighting games don't have what it takes anymore to push numbers unless you're already one with a big playerbase like sf or tekken. LoL players will bounce off of it pretty quickly, even with all that they do to appeal to casuals.

I've been playing fightan since SF2 in the arcade (yes I'm old). This game is frankly a bit wack. It's worse than SF6, worse than tekken, a lot worse than strive, worse than fatal fury, worse than granblue and uni 2.

I think nen impact is the only recent fight game that is equally unsatisfying to play. 2xko feels like everything is made of paper while having this weird laggy abstraction (almost like don't have direct control over you char).

The combos are tedious. They have very little in the way of varied utility, are easy as shit to execute and just turn everything into a single player game for 15 seconds. Gameplay feels extremely uniform regardless of who you pick. The control layout with two special buttons is utter cancer and actually 100x more annoying to use than motion controls for anyone who has played a fighting game before.

Whole thing is a swing and a miss.

>>722704575
nothing is worse than T8 be real
and everything is worse than UNI2

>there's a $100 version of the game with three (3) skins
>buying it doesn't even auto-unlock the characters with those skins, you still have to spend champion tokens on them
this would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad

>>722707083
>$100 dollar version that didn't even unlock the characters
Multiverses did the EXACT same thing. Ironic

>>722706193
T8 was dumb fun for 6 months til the cracks started showing. S2 was an abomination and now it's this weird confused entity where they keep trying to find ways to course correct while sideskirting the fundamental unga retardation of its design.

But yeah, I had loads more fun with it at launch than with this. I'd 2xko in DNF duel tier.

>>722664608
>tag faggotry
>riot gaymes
Sorry but fuck this shit.

>No Riven (The designated fighting game character)
>No Garen to rival Darius
>No Shurima champ for furries
>No K6 or Rengar
>5 fucking PZ champions
>No "hype moments and aura" champion (Except Yasuo I guess)
>No Zed
What audience are they aiming for again?

>>722707846
arcane audience

>>722664608
Too little, too late, which is pretty much Riot's motto these days.

>>722707914
And why would the Arcane audience be interested in a fighting game instead of a PvZ narrative focused RPG or something similar?

>>722707314
>T8 was dumb fun for 6 months til the cracks started showing
I don't know how it took you six months to see the cracks. I can't really disagree though. I can't remember the last time I played a fighting game that was as immediately unfun as 2XKO. T8 was at least somewhat enjoyable in small doses with a friend.

>>722707994
they aren't, they fucked up with the development of this game and decided that the best solution would be to lean on how successful arcane was.

>>722707994
Fucking THIS.
This is what Riot is too retarded to understand. Nobody wants competitive multiplayer games from them anymore because their community reputation is just that fucking bad. If they were smart they would've released an AA or AAA single-player RPG game with real-time combat, based off of Piltover and Zaun.

>>722707314
that game was shit since beta
2xko is already much better than t8 was or will ever be

>no poppy
>no miss fortune
>no gangplank
>no tahm kench
>no dr mundo
>no jax
>no tristana

they literally made the most boring choices ever, arcane season 2 was a giant piece of dogshit, and this is coming from someone that enjoyed season 1. If 2xko is gonna be the arcane fighting game, then I'm not interested, and that's not even talking about the monetization

>>722692134
And not even good skins lel

That Jinx skin is fucking shit and looks nothing like the suit in the show. Doesn't even has her tattoos. Somehow they managed to do an even worse job than the LoL Arcane Jinx skin.

>>722689878
a dating sim would've been a fucking dumpster fire.

One of the pillars of the Arcane fandom is how fucking delusional all those autists are about shipping. Imagine making a game where you can break ships. It would've been rendered non canon in a week.

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>>722708208
Meanwhile sf6

>>722690915
There was a 500 dollars Arcane Jinx skin too and reportedly it sold well so they're bringing it back soon.

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>>722709074
Which you can unlock for free in the single player mode

>>722708137
Didn't League actually try a single player RPG and it flopped?

>>722691323
>No yordles
Teemo is right there

>>722701386
LMH down+H LMH(air) S1/2 super

>>722709271
boooring

>>722708116
I fully believe they removed Katarina from the base roster in favor of more Arcane characters

>>722669824
Riot correctly realized that non-fighting game players are whiny fucks when it comes to picking up fighting games. They probably realized this late in development through playtesting when the casualized controls weren't enough to stop the normalfag playtesters from getting stomped by the playtesters who have played fighting games before and found some other thing to blame their losses on.

>>722708196
that lack of any demacia representative is pretty weird

>>722697265
it could work if these shitters weren't so greedy.
>ten chars base roster
>give option to unlock at least 6 more chars through playing the game
>second skin can be unlocked by playing the game like sf6 did
>start selling new chars at a base price of maybe 5 dollars.
>sell skins in the range of 3 to 5 dollars depending on how good they are
and from there is just the game of making people stay by giving them nice playing options and not making stupid decisions. Easy.

>>722670581
The net code and training mode are better than any other fucking fightan out there and it isn't even close.

>>722701378
how is League still number 2 after almost 20 years?

>>722709264
they published a handful of "indie" games under the riot forge brand and then canned any further funding after they weren't selling good enough i guess. but yeah, there was a "jrpg" by the devs that made battlechasers, a rhythm game by the bit trip runner devs, an isometric action game by the moonlighter devs, a metroidvania by smaller studio, a 3d adventure game by the studio that made rime, and a "crafting rpg" by the graveyard keeper devs. i bought a few of these. these games were the only league related stuff i've played since like 2011, i thought it was a neat way to introduce people who had no interest in playing league into the lol universe, guess rito disagreed

>>722707846
>5 fucking PZ champions
>just 5
hahahahaha nigga they already datamined that Cait, is coming. Plus Jayce and Viktor rumored for the first year.

>>722710062
A shame, the Ruined King game was fine in my opinion. Just needed more difficult encounters.

>>722703752
The scorpion boss is named scorpionussy, there’s your answer.

>>722707846
gay retard audience. They already had that with a LoL spinoff but I guess they wanted to double down

>>722664608
dnf duel made me hate any shoehorned fighting game made from the soulless husk of an mmo

i genuinely need to ask what they were thinking when making teemo lmao, literally 10 minutes of labbing and you have some of the grimiest 50/50s in the entire game and thats without his 11frame instant overhead he for some reason has. j.H double jump with a lock down assist just forces the opponent to guess the incoming empty low or j.2M hitting so low that it looks like he landed. this game is genuinely so grimy i thought it was suppose to be for new players.

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>>722708208
I'll give them something. This Warwick skin looks ten times better than the shit they did in the show.

>>722665967
>riot is retarded
shocking. news at 11

>>722708137
>Nobody wants competitive multiplayer games from them anymore because their community reputation is just that fucking bad
Valorant is doing just fine. 2XKO could have competed with or even dethroned SF and carved out a nice tidy profit for them but I find it doubtful that'll happen considering they hired a bunch of hacks to make a complete kusoge.

>>722668934
yes, off of valorant [sad news]

I dont see it on the ps5, so i assume it is only steam for now

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>2XKO does well
>Motion inputs officially taken off life support and every future FG gets even grimier offense and degenerate neutral
>2XKO flops
>FG devs see it as proof that F2P doesn't work for fighting games
There's no winning. They'll take the wrong lesson from this game no matter what happens.

>>722711471
it's funny cause 2xko really would play so much more smoothly if it just had motion inputs

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>>722711560
Motion inputs are too complicated for casuals and scare them away, please understand. Now check out this 30 hit combo into a reset we posted on twitter.

>>722711471
the fuck is "motion inputs"? you mean like a wiimote waggling? the fuck? why the fuck would anyone put such retarded shit in a fighting game? why would anyone fucking want that?

>2 weeks on the shop rotation
what the fuck were they thinking

>>722707083
if you learned to read, it gives 8 character tokens with the skin pack.

>>722711087
Post his other skins

>>722711858
weak sauce bait

>>722711858
They are in fifa

>>722711858
why yes I did have shake smash turned on in Brawl

>>722712603
fifa is a niggerball game played by braindead nonwhite subhumans, the fuck does it have anything to do with fighting games?

Why did they make Blitzcrank's voice so shit.

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>>722664608
Because it's a fighting game....

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>>722711858
In case you somehow aren't trolling and are just a Leaguefag with no knowledge of fighting games, Motion Inputs are when you have to do a specific motion with the control stick to execute a move.
For example, in Street Fighter 2, executing a fireball requires you to press
>Down
>Down-Right
>Forward
and then punch/A. Some people call this a "Quarter Circle Forward"/QCF motion, though nowadays most people just write it out as "236A". (If you don't get it, look at your numpad)

At first this might seem like arbitrary bullshit for the sake of it, but it actually serves two important purposes. The first is that executing this motion is something you can fuck up, and that leaves you at a disadvantage because attempting this more or less requires you to be holding forward, which means you aren't blocking, which means you're open to attack. The second is that, even if you're a super-practiced god with perfect execution, Hadouken takes a MINIMUM of 4 frames to input— one for down, one for down-forward, one for forward, one for punch. You kight think "who think fuck cares about four frames", but Fighting Games are a genre where a move giving you 4-6 frames of advantage makes it a really solid move most of the time.

Imagine if League removed channeling on every move that has it. That's what removing motion inputs does.

>>722715532
except they didn't remove the motion inputs from the game. the game never had them to begin with and everything is designed around that.
motion inputs > no motion inputs
but 2xko is fine without them

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>>722664608
>"huge ip"
>open the thumbnail
>never seen these characters before in my entire life

>>722712748
nta but it has motion inputs, you do 360s and shit to do fancy footwork and shit

>>722664608
Is LoL a huge IP? Or just some awful bullshit for suicidal adderal addicts and Koreans to play

>>722716425
>Is LoL a huge IP?
Yes, anon, things aren't unpopular just because you don't like them.

>>722716425
Yes faggot, it is a huge IP. After almost 20 years it's still second in twitch streams and no signs of stopping. Fucking World tournament is full of chinks and yet they can still afford fucking Linkin Park. They fucking did a french song for some interracial ship and it ended in the fucking top 3 of spotify global chart.

it is huge

>>722716217
>never seen teemo
>never seen warwick
>never seen yasuo
Even if you're a fucking 12 year old you've heard of these characters. Shut the fuck up or go back to Zeta Reticuli or the deep cave that leads into the hollow earth you crawled out of yesterday. This thread is full of people talking shit who all picked better more reasonable angles of criticism than your stupid ass.

>>722716490
Im not some solipsists. Learning that LoL is a big IP is genuinely horrifying news for the mental wellbeing of thousands. Just found out there's a TV show as well, im going to cry

>>722717385
>chink seething
lmao, only queer zoomers care about riot ASSFAGGOTS, any sane person won't touch this shit.
Also SEAgroid subhumans don't count as humans, and only them inflate riot numbers.

>>722716217
go to bed grandpa. Your pills are waiting

How annoying is vanguard

>>722718434
You have to restart before playing if you don't want it active 24/7 and close it manually in the system tray when you're done. Otherwise, it's the same as any other AC.

Removing inputs was pointless.
Whats the point of that when theres 30 hit combos, marvelshit neutral, 1 frame links, and other degen shit.

>>722708196
>they literally made the most boring choices ever
They just picked the safe choices. The roster is literally just every popular LoL character except Ezreal and Zed.

>>722719707
That's kind of the question I've had ever since we had that information. Its a tag fighter...But for everyone? Do they not realize how defense heavy tag fighters are?

>>722711471
there is no bright future because every fighting game in existence now is trying to pander as hard as it can to casuals because its a sinking ship and once the current FGC age out of it there won't be enough of a playerbase to keep it alive

>>722676523
>Pay for exclusive skins that can only be gotten through this bundle

Riot has already done this before and walked it back with the physical release rewards for LoL. Anyone buying that deserves to lose their human rights

>>722676765
Yuumi as assist only is actually a great idea anon.

>>722720941
>its a sinking ship and once the current FGC age out of it there won't be enough of a playerbase to keep it alive
Man, imagine if they had just FUCKING MADE THE GAMES PLAYABLE ONLINE WHERE ALL THE ZOOMERS ARE FOR THE PAST TWO DECADES

>>722676765
>add "extremely unpopular character that would make negative money"
Nope.

>>722691323
Riot moved away from interesting characters in their design philosophy over a decade ago. China likes weeb shit, so all characters are proper anime characters now, they will never release another cool character like Bard. They even released the information that led them to this decision, showing that all the cool and interesting characters were basically only popular in NA and to a lesser degree EUW, while all the Asian servers just wanted tits and anime protagonists.

>>722664608
>a f2p fighting game by the guys who introduced a 500$ skin
>who are also known for their intentional imbalance
What could possibly go wrong

>>722721329
China does not care for fgc stuff so who knows.

>>722664608
>No one cares
That's because League died globally 9 years ago. The only people who care about League nowadays are chinks and gooks.

The sky is falling FGC doomers are hilarious. They get so close to the truth which is that fight games suck for the large majority of people if there is no single player game mode but then say its because everything thing else under the sun.

Splitting release between PC and console is baffling considering the alphas were crossplay. All this does it make any console player interested lose interest and not bother checking it out months later when it’s already dead.

>pay 40$ for sf6
>pay 30$ for sf6 character pass 3 to play C. viper
>pay 5$ to use c. viper skin
>"thank you capcom!!!"

>download 2xko for free
>use my free character token on warwick
>pay 20$ for a warwick skin
>"DOA retard riot!!!!"

really gets my noggin joggin heh

>>722722217
just pay for the individual character and grind out the classic skin in world tour

>>722721856
Just bring back Alpha 3’s co-op mode, it’s that fucking easy

>>722664608
afaik most people just choose their mains and stick with them so i think the roster size is basically irrelevant UNLESS the negative publicity stops people from trying the game.

>>722722217
>Developer who invented the 2d fighting game formula makes another one, they scam the shit out of you with dlc
VS
>Incompetent developer gives you a shitty, half finished casual fighting game for free.
People don't like eating shit even if it's free. Rising thunder was a stupid idea that was ahead of its time, over a decade later we now know theres no audience for a dumbed down capcom fighter. They should have either gone all the way and made a real fighting game or went the total opposite direction and made a smash clone for casuals. Ever developer who has tried the half step has flopped.

Arcane was a fucking mistake

>>722722397
GBA Alpha 3 was honestly the best Single player fighting game experience imo

>>722697265
It worked for KI's 3.5 seasons. You had the choice of getting 8 characters at once for $20 or $40 with extra stuff like KI Classic included or choosing characters individually. That game launched with 6 characters and still did well because the rollback online worked in a gen coming out of SF4, MK9, BlazBlue, other garbage delay based shit, etc. The only thing it was shit on for was the fact that it was on Xbox One but it basically carried that console from 2013-2016 when it finally came out in PC.

>>722664608
Lmao, Who thought it was a good idea to name it 2kx2 or whatever its called?

>have to wait 3 weeks to buy a new character if you want to use your free currency instead of real money
>has a cap on free currency you can have so you cannot hoard it and wait for shit you want

>>722697265
The game has to be good, there are no good f2p fighters so none of them have an audience willing to play let alone pay. The problem is f2p always comes with the delusion that they are going to attract a gigantic casual audience and this effects the game design in negative ways.

>>722697265
It doesn't work because fighting games rely on characters to sell. It's not like other games where you sell bits and pieces like costumes and weapon cosmetics.

>muh Marvel Rivals
Bankrolled by China and carried by Mahvel IP.

>>722723991
Killer Instinct could ride on nostalgia bucks though. It came out at the right time where the people fond of the series had plenty of disposable income to afford $20 or $40, and just so happened to be an actual quality game that made it worthwhile to keep playing and telling other people to get too.

Games like 2xKO operate on the Hollywood and Mobile Games mentality. They'll try to make all their money back in the opening weekend or week from hype and marketing, so the quality of the game doesn't matter. Then they can keep making money from microtransactions and whales who are invested in the series/franchise because sunk cost fallacy, or timed transactions have fear of missing out, etc.

All of the monetization of the game is separated from the quality of the game so as far as the publisher/suits in charge are concerned the quality doesn't matter what matters is how much money they can get out of people.

can they add an actual female? jinx is a man, the neko chan is covered , sell riot to saudi arabia already

>>722724401
Fighting games are the only genre where I've been tempted to buy cosmetics. The average player actually doesn't give a shit about new characters, throughout the life of the game they play 1 or 2 at most since it takes tens if not 100+ hours for them to get good with that 1 character.

I actually can't think of a better genre for selling costumes

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>>722724470
>Killer Instinct could ride on nostalgia bucks though. It came out at the right time where the people fond of the series had plenty of disposable income to afford $20 or $40, and just so happened to be an actual quality game that made it worthwhile to keep playing and telling other people to get too.
The word of mouth also helped because convincing people to get an Xbox One for one game from 2013-2016 was pretty much bonkers. the good thing was MS had an Xbox One demo unit available in every Microsoft Store and so people could play KI for free or onlookers could see fighting game players getting the dopamine hit and wondering if it was that good.

>>722724827
>The average player actually doesn't give a shit about new characters,

If you're thinking of someone who plays a character for 100+ hours, that's not an average player. An average player is going to goof around with all of the different characters or at least the ones he thinks is cool and play through the games different modes of content, maybe playing casual multiplayer with friends and even less likely some online matches. New characters are typically one of the most important things to that audience, which is a much more casual audience than anyone putting 100+ hours into a character.

But you're right about costumes, since characters are the main focus of fighting games focusing on them with extra content like costumes is a good way to go.

Can we just get Bloody Roar back thanks

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>>722664608
>no one cares
they did so much elitist jerkoff shit with the closed betas that idgaf at least
>make all the betas invite only
>game goes in and out of beta multiple times
>get all the fgc celebs to jerk it off constantly
>now out of beta but in early access(?), unclear if its open to everyone
>console babies seemingly still locked out(?)
>in EA but you can apparently immediately spend hundreds of dollars on whatever the fuck they are selling in their store

They didn't drop a date, they didn't showcase the game in any interesting ways and they made it clear their priorities are microtransaction garbage before the 1.0 launch, if that's even a thing. With other fighting games, launch day is always a fun mess with your buds because you know online is going to be a disaster but its still day one and everyone's is scrambling and playing. This game's "launch" or "availability" is just trash.

>>722725080
Wait what the fuck Killer Instinct had over 10 million players? Holy shit! I knew it was good and popular but I didn't know it was to that extent. How the hell did it only last 3.5 seasons? Were like 99% of players all free to play without giving them a cent and they just couldn't make enough money to keep it going?

If so it seems like the gulf between free and one penny is a fucking ocean.

>>722725161
Bloody Roar and Darkstalkers are dead forever because no publisher is going to invest in a game where each character needs 2 models or one where all the animation and mechanics are so expensive to develop.

If anything cashes in on those names in the future it will be a soulless shallow cash grab.

>>722664608
>is an 11 character roster for a 2v2 tag game good enough to survive
I don't think so. XvSF through to MvC had about 15-17 characters, and playing it casually, that was enough to go through in about an hour and have my fill for it for a little bit. Numbers are gonna be different for people that actually play the games seriously, but this is the League of Legends F2P fightan, so casually playing is the core demographic.

The only way it'd survive is if the cast has strong and distinct characters, and I think they could've picked a lot better. I'm still of the mind that Jax should've been a Day 1 inclusion, even if they slaughtered his lore so he's no longer a combat master, and I think gimmick characters like Twitch or Twisted Fate would've been important to spice things up. Teemo kinda fills that role, but Teemo's also a fag

>>722725248
Noooooo anon you are supposed to feel the fomo.
All your favorite e-celebs say it's great!
Doesn't that mean anything to you!?

>>722725248
Like others in the thread have said, there's probably higher ups who already knew it would fail and they're just trying to fleece as much money as possible from suckers, so as long as the store is working nothing else matters.

>>722724827
You are not describing the average player. You are describing an autist who grinds to compete in ranked/tournaments and they are the only ones who will go in training mode for 100+ hours with a character. Look at any normalfag streamer who played SF6, Tekken, or DBZ: they fuck around with a bunch of characters, maybe stick with one for a few days, then quit.

The FGC genre is just fucked by design since it cannot get new blood outside of new character releases, like I said. You can see it most clearly with SF6, which gets a huge surge of players whenever a new highly anticipated character releases then immediately dies again.

>>722665408
>I'm a tough epic gamer try me in GRUBBLE
HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAH

>>722725504
Yeah, this anon is right. If a fighting game wanted to succeed on the broader market it needs appealing characters to bring people in, and the more characters it has the more likely it'll be to have ones that appeal to any particular person.

I think you could avoid the disinterest phase if the game had enough content, but modern fighting games rarely do. Ironically Smash went in that direction and that's one thing that no one seems to have copied from it, even the big budget games that copied Smash in all other ways.

>>722725259
At it's peak, online play was a healthy mix of both payed and F2P players that maybe wouldn't stay long if it didn't stick but both of them made this revolving door system for ranked where matchmaking would always net you an opponent within a few seconds because the players starting a ranked session always caught up with people shutting off the game.
It really is a shame MS pulled the plug on characters because stopping at 29 instead of 30 is frustrating but thankfully they gave it a bit of CPR with the anniversary update.

>>722670853
>>decent playernumbers because its a new riot game

we wont know this because it;s not on steam.

>>722725837
Is it still worth looking into now? I'm a scrub so I haven't bought a fighting game in years but I played KI Gold back in the day and had as much fun with it as I did with SFII, UMK3 and Primal Rage.

Is there anything to do in it besides the standard Arcade and Multiplayer?

>>722725149
>>722725504
You're describing a player type who plays a game for 2 days and quits, they were never going to spend money on any f2p game. tournament level players aren't playing for 100 hours, they are playing for thousands. Any fighting game player who does more than dabble in single player will settle on 1 character and will play online with them, it takes way too long to learn a character to keep switching so they stick with 1 or two for their entire cycle of the game, this is why costumes become attractive for them.

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>>722725781
Smelly fags be like 'yo, im fucking retarded' for the billionth time.
Just piss off you imbecile and get out of your fucking bubble.

>>722725341
>Darkstalkers
>needs 2 models
What for? Midnight Bliss? They could easily cheap around that if need be.

>>722664608
I just didn't hear anything about it

>>722664608
>>no one cares
Yeah, cause League's a dead IP outside of Arcane. Lmao

>>722695602
It has more sauce than every other modern fighter thoughbeit

>>722725781
>I think you could avoid the disinterest phase if the game had enough content
I think SF6 with its world tour is pretty nice. Reminds me a bit of SF3 Alpha's career mode. Just needs more content as you said.

>>722664608
>Blitzcrank explicitly referred to as a "they" when he is obviously a dude robot
come on now...

>>722665967
Lethal Tempo, Press the Attack, etc.

>>722709074
SF6 is still dogshit though

>>722726224
Oh the 2 models thing was for Bloody Roar, each character has a human and animal form (and some more than one). That means two models and two sets of animations and everything else needed, just to make one character. Basically it's twice as costly to make a Bloody Roar character as another fighting game character and no publisher is going to do that today.

Darkstalkers was the "all the animation and mechanics are so expensive" part. The 2D animation in Darkstalkers is amazing and there's so many creative things like the Midnight Bliss you mentioned but also remember there are like half a dozen moves that have different effects on the cast like that such as Lord Raptor's slam dunk and Anakaris' curse. And universal mechanics like Dark Force are basically an install super that has complete unique effects for every different character! No publisher is going to pay for all that today.

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>>722725961
so there's a Shadow Lords mode which is kind of like an Alpha 3 World Tour type mode. You go around and fight CPU battles that range from easy to manage without equipping items/animal spirits to straight unfair. You unlock pieces of KI lore along the way but you mainly try to fight Gargos' minions to weaken the big knobgobbler himself. You unlock the astral plane stage by beating him on the normal difficulty.
There's a Shadow Lab mode where you can fight AI replicas of online opponents that are trained each match. That's pretty much it besides leveling up to unlock colors and accessories for your character.

>>722726618
Unfortunately it's the most successful and best fightan on the market right now. Maybe Tokon will change that, but from what I've seen that looks like shit too.

>>722726095
I think we're talking about different segments of the market. There's the tiny 1% of players who will do competitive tournaments like you said, and then there's a 10% or even 25% who are the kind of fighting game players you're talking about. But what I mean is the more general audience other 75%-90% who are more interested in playing a fun game than a fighting game. Like I bought Ultimate MK3 to do all the cool characters' special moves and fatalities and beat the arcade ladder to see their endings and occasionally played with friends. Probably way more than 100+ hours overall, but never focused on a specific character to git gud with.

Those players might not count as "fighting game players" but they're the majority of the market so if any fighting game is going to be really successful it has to pull them in.

I do agree with you about costumes though, those are a good example of a cool thing that appeals to a broader audience.

>>722722775
Yeah but SF6 plays worse than 2XKO. Which isn’t to say that 2XKO is good, only that SF6 is abhorrent

Rising Thunder wasn't good and neither is this

>>722726894
I just play whatever catches my attention for a little while on fightcade these days.
Modern fighters just suck.

The last good fighting game was pre-bamco FighterZ