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What's the appeal of MOBAs?
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>>722667331
If you can't solo carry a MOBA then it's most likely a shit MOBA.
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>>722667331
RTS games aren't skirmishy or 'movement based' enough
>inb4 starcraft
dont care, mate
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>>722667331
Wasting time raging at strangers, people get hooked on it for some reason.
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You have to be a third or second worlder to get it.
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>>722667331
its really fun
but also one of the worst genres if you are on the losing team
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>>722667331
They're free and they run on a potato
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>>722667331
Quarry status?
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>>722667331
Really high skill ceiling, competitive, yet lower skill floor than RTS which it is a derivative of. Personally, it's relaxing for me to play while still providing a great amount of challenge.
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>>722667638
Other way around
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>playing against computer ai :O
>playing against real human bean :l
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>>722667331
BMing
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being free2play and occupying a shitload of time per match. i remember there was a time when a lot of WoW raiders were dropping their subs to play dota2 instead.
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>>722667331
rts is a thing of the past. gachas are better and also free
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>>722667331
Was a place to be racist in the 2000s, but with league of legends & valve communist & fascist order I don't understand.
>>722667976
Don't need to go to starcraft, warcraft 3.
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>>722667331
Having to manage an entire army takes skill and tactical understanding on top of managing the economy and upgrades in RTS. Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplay. This scares a lot of unskilled shitters so they play MOBAS instead. In MOBAs you only have to worry about one unit and get to rage at your teammates when you die while taking no responsibility for your own actions. Perfect midwit game.
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>>722669053
>free
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>>722669090
>warcraft 3
oh yeah that's based as hell
what the fuck am I doing here I should be playing that
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>>722667331
it's like RTS but on lower skill level because there's only control small number of units
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>>722669414
It's almost like DOTA was a Warcraft 3 UMS map first...
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>>722669297
>Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplay. This scares a lot of unskilled shitters so they play MOBAS instead.
uhh just play mid
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>>722669542
whoda figured
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>>722669297
>Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplay
That's not the issue that Dota addresses.
The pb I have with wc3 is that it's almost impossible to make a come back. Everything gets decided in the first 5mn. Add to this that every game plays the exact same. The only fun things wc3 has over dota is to micro and surround enemies with your units.
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>>722669472
This. Much less multitasking so you can focus more on the "action" itself.
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>>722670707
I don't understand your complaint. So you think that after making mistakes for 5 minutes you should be able to beat your opponent who hasn't been making mistakes for 5 minutes?
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>>722670857
Not necessary a series of mistakes. Simply losing a hero or a battle costs you the game, hence why most wc3 games ends in 10mn. There's no comeback potential, every game plays the same. Not saying that wc3 is bad, but I can see why dota is more fun.
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>>722667331
If you weren't alive 20 years ago when WC3 was in its heyday then you couldn't get it.
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It's autistic as shit game design and I like hearing the hero quotes over and over.
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>>722671163
Like I get that you want to have a fighting chance, but your complaint basically comes down to "I fucked up and my opponent didn't fuck (at least as much) so I'm going to lose and I don't want to lose. Please give me a free life-line that I will refer to as comeback potential" The reverse side of this would be that you played perfectly and now all of a sudden your opponent gets some bullshit called "comeback potential" and it undermines how well you played the first five minutes making it a pointless 5 minutes. Tournaments are usually in a series of games and if you want "come back potential" you just play better in the next game of the series.

Every game playing the same is a bit of a stretch, as well.
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>>722667331
>What's the appeal of MOBAs?
really competitive game that lasts less than an hour with high skill ceiling that always feels new with every single new match. it's like a backgammon type game.

the problem: most guys that play dota are unironically in their 30s and their 40s and the griefing (aka intentionally ruining the game) is literally unbearable. you see guys with 15000 games that will act like bitches and go afk because you did this one thing that annoyed them. pretty much why i stopped playing years ago.
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gameplay
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>>722667331
It's a sped up version of leveling a character in Diablo 2 and going into PvP + teamwork. The retards talking about "muh RTS" are just brain lagged because it was made in the Warcraft 3 engine.
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>>722669472
Same reason why Counter Strike and Formula 1 driving is easy.
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>>722669297
That must also be why no Starcraft or Warcraft pro ever managed to win anything in DotA. It was just too easy and didn't take enough skill.
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>>722667331
Casual shit + the ability to blame your teammates for your failings
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>>722672952
I wonder if pickleball players ever say "Well you know a tennis pro never won a pickleball tournament so picklebacll is more skilled game"
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>>722669330
genshin was my only gacha and i got S-tier characters for free while watching tard streamer swipe thousand of dollars. She wasnt even good KEKing
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>>722667976
SupCom 2 commander rushing.
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Popular so popular. Good RTS are more adrenergic and full body stimulating, so maybe MOBAs will have fewer players in the future; I know a good MMO RTS would mog an arena MOBA.



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