What's the appeal of MOBAs?
>>722667331If you can't solo carry a MOBA then it's most likely a shit MOBA.
>>722667331RTS games aren't skirmishy or 'movement based' enough>inb4 starcraftdont care, mate
>>722667331Wasting time raging at strangers, people get hooked on it for some reason.
You have to be a third or second worlder to get it.
>>722667331its really funbut also one of the worst genres if you are on the losing team
>>722667331They're free and they run on a potato
>>722667331Quarry status?
>>722667331Really high skill ceiling, competitive, yet lower skill floor than RTS which it is a derivative of. Personally, it's relaxing for me to play while still providing a great amount of challenge.
>>722667638Other way around
>playing against computer ai :O>playing against real human bean :l
>>722667331BMing
being free2play and occupying a shitload of time per match. i remember there was a time when a lot of WoW raiders were dropping their subs to play dota2 instead.
>>722667331rts is a thing of the past. gachas are better and also free
>>722667331Was a place to be racist in the 2000s, but with league of legends & valve communist & fascist order I don't understand.>>722667976Don't need to go to starcraft, warcraft 3.
>>722667331Having to manage an entire army takes skill and tactical understanding on top of managing the economy and upgrades in RTS. Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplay. This scares a lot of unskilled shitters so they play MOBAS instead. In MOBAs you only have to worry about one unit and get to rage at your teammates when you die while taking no responsibility for your own actions. Perfect midwit game.
>>722669053>free
>>722669090>warcraft 3oh yeah that's based as hellwhat the fuck am I doing here I should be playing that
>>722667331it's like RTS but on lower skill level because there's only control small number of units
>>722669414It's almost like DOTA was a Warcraft 3 UMS map first...
>>722669297>Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplay. This scares a lot of unskilled shitters so they play MOBAS instead.uhh just play mid
>>722669542whoda figured
>>722669297>Most RTS focus on 1v1 gameplayThat's not the issue that Dota addresses. The pb I have with wc3 is that it's almost impossible to make a come back. Everything gets decided in the first 5mn. Add to this that every game plays the exact same. The only fun things wc3 has over dota is to micro and surround enemies with your units.
>>722669472This. Much less multitasking so you can focus more on the "action" itself.
>>722670707I don't understand your complaint. So you think that after making mistakes for 5 minutes you should be able to beat your opponent who hasn't been making mistakes for 5 minutes?
>>722670857Not necessary a series of mistakes. Simply losing a hero or a battle costs you the game, hence why most wc3 games ends in 10mn. There's no comeback potential, every game plays the same. Not saying that wc3 is bad, but I can see why dota is more fun.
>>722667331If you weren't alive 20 years ago when WC3 was in its heyday then you couldn't get it.
It's autistic as shit game design and I like hearing the hero quotes over and over.
>>722671163Like I get that you want to have a fighting chance, but your complaint basically comes down to "I fucked up and my opponent didn't fuck (at least as much) so I'm going to lose and I don't want to lose. Please give me a free life-line that I will refer to as comeback potential" The reverse side of this would be that you played perfectly and now all of a sudden your opponent gets some bullshit called "comeback potential" and it undermines how well you played the first five minutes making it a pointless 5 minutes. Tournaments are usually in a series of games and if you want "come back potential" you just play better in the next game of the series. Every game playing the same is a bit of a stretch, as well.
>>722667331>What's the appeal of MOBAs?really competitive game that lasts less than an hour with high skill ceiling that always feels new with every single new match. it's like a backgammon type game. the problem: most guys that play dota are unironically in their 30s and their 40s and the griefing (aka intentionally ruining the game) is literally unbearable. you see guys with 15000 games that will act like bitches and go afk because you did this one thing that annoyed them. pretty much why i stopped playing years ago.
gameplay
>>722667331It's a sped up version of leveling a character in Diablo 2 and going into PvP + teamwork. The retards talking about "muh RTS" are just brain lagged because it was made in the Warcraft 3 engine.
>>722669472Same reason why Counter Strike and Formula 1 driving is easy.
>>722669297That must also be why no Starcraft or Warcraft pro ever managed to win anything in DotA. It was just too easy and didn't take enough skill.
>>722667331Casual shit + the ability to blame your teammates for your failings
>>722672952I wonder if pickleball players ever say "Well you know a tennis pro never won a pickleball tournament so picklebacll is more skilled game"
>>722669330genshin was my only gacha and i got S-tier characters for free while watching tard streamer swipe thousand of dollars. She wasnt even good KEKing
>>722667976SupCom 2 commander rushing.
Popular so popular. Good RTS are more adrenergic and full body stimulating, so maybe MOBAs will have fewer players in the future; I know a good MMO RTS would mog an arena MOBA.