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>can be used everywhere, whether outside or inside, at work or at home, in bed or at the dinner table
>because it's has generic targeted hardware and isn't a custom PC or a console, millions of mods and guides exist which can get any game working on the Deck even ones which technically aren't supported
>some games have their own custom steam deck presets (like stellar blade and cp2077)
>touchpads make M&KB games possible to play on the go
>literally features a linux desktop OOTB (remember when you had to jailbreak a PS2 for that?)
>power profiles to extend battery life (battery life lasts longer than the Switch 2)
>mods
>eroge
>DRM-free games on GOG
Knowing this, why would you buy anything else?
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Sell me on handhelds, /v/. Give me legitimate use cases for them, other than hurr durr you can play bido gaem while laying in bed
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>>722684190
I use mine at work.
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>>722684190
>hurr durr you can play bido gaem while laying in bed
That's a huge benefit. Instead of sitting or standing at your desk like an office drone, you can just carry this thing with you. And when you want to "sit down" you can just use a dock to connect it to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. It's basically like a laptop that fits in your pocket, but instead of a keyboard it has a controller.
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>>722685480
>you can just use a dock to connect it to a monitor
Ok, this is convincing me. How's the performance though? Not necessarily steam deck in specific, but handhelds in general.
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>tiny hands
hah
show tits
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>>722684075
Gabe newell can suck my dick. I won't pay for not owning my games!
The best handheld would be a Switch-sized gaming laptop with windows installed by default and full power over the entire device just like a normal PC.
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>>722685747
>windows
> full power over the entire device
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>>722685747
>I won't pay for not owning my games!
You can play your GOG games or pirated games on SteamOS.
>The best handheld would be a Switch-sized gaming laptop with windows installed by default
Sounds like a Legion Go or Rog Ally.
>and full power over the entire device just like a normal PC.
You have that on SteamOS.
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>>722685846
You could uninstall windows and install Linux, DOS or whatever you want. But windows by default would make it easier to play video games on.
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>>722685918
>SteamOS
Fuck you and fuck steam! I want to fully be able to own my device without it connected to steam or Gabe Newell in any way.
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>>722685626
Depends on the handheld.
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>>722684190
you can play gaymes
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>>722686078
Then don't use SteamOS.
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A hacked 3DS is great for retro games, but it is VERY weak and I will probably have to find something better for mid range games.
However I have problems being immersed and skilled in games anyways when I sit at a waiting room, bus or train because A it is very uncomfy and filthy and B you gotta watch out for muggers and backstabbers all the time. So I ussually REALLY suck at games when I play handheld.
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>>722686171
Which one can run e33? This is the only bido gaem that interested me in the past few years, getting a console would be cheaper than upgrading my pc.
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>>722686312
natively rog ally x?
if you're streaming from xbox cloud or pc then any device its much better like odin 2 portal gets 1080p 120hz hdr.
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What switch games run best on the steam deck? I own a switch but can't be fucking bothered to buy or pirate games. Do totk and odyssey run smoothly? What Ps3 games in well? I have demon souls installed.
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>>722684075
The new giga-psp is better. You can run steam os on it too
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>>722686312
If you need per game performance info, just youtube the game name and the device, and there will be a video of someone demonstrating performance.
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>>722686489
any 2d or lightweight game. if you want to play heavier games switch to android because its much better there you have custom mesa vulkan drivers specifically for nintendo switch that deck doesnt have.
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>>722685480
>fits in your pocket
you fags are truly delusional
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>>722684075
Too big
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>>722684075
That's a man BTW
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>>722684075
Why does the PC Master Race Movement cling to the Steam Deck so much? They already spend 18 hours a day at their “battlestations”. They can’t stand to be separated from their “rigs” for a few minutes? Is that also why they take those pills?
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>>722686312
gpd win 5 is the most powerful handheld but it costs 1500 dollars
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>>722684075
Cope more, it's over.

Wii U - 13.5 million units sold
Game Gear - 10.6 million units sold
Dreamcast - 9.1 million units sold
Nintendo Switch 2 - 5.8 million units sold
Super NES Classic Edition - 5.2 million units sold
Steam Deck - 5 million units sold
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>>722686686
its a cheap way into pc gaming. its like $300 under used like its competitors.
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>>722686593
Thanks, what about the ports from older systems? The Mario 3D/galaxy collection?
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>>722684075
sexo con Tomoko
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>>722686884
It’s not a PC. You and your ilk gripe about prebuilts but somehow the deck is acceptable? PC gaming is all about using mouse and keyboard. That is a central tenant of the “master race” movement. The deck is nothing more than an overpriced switch.
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>>722686853
fun fact: the overwhelming majority of humans to ever step foot on this planet are absolute retards
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>>722686975
Mario should be fine, also Links Awakening. Forget about TOTK or Xenoblade 2/3.
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>>722686556
>>722686691
>price: $2 million dollars
Lmao good luck seeing me with that shiit
First handheld device to sell negative copies
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>>722684075
Can I play EU4 on it?
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>>722687062
>It’s not a PC.
AMD's Van Gogh GPU uses the RDNA 2.0 architecture and is made using a 7 nm production process at TSMC. With a die size of 163 mm2 and a transistor count of 2,400 million it is a small chip. Van Gogh supports DirectX 12 Ultimate (Feature Level 12_2). For GPU compute applications, OpenCL version 2.0 can be used. Additionally, the DirectX 12 Ultimate capability guarantees support for hardware-raytracing, variable-rate shading and more, in upcoming video games. It features 512 shading units, 32 texture mapping units and 16 ROPs. The GPU also contains 8 raytracing acceleration cores.
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>>722684190
>hurr durr you can play bido gaem while laying in bed
why is this not valid?
have you tried playing vidya lying in bed? it's amazing

also
>freedom of a PC
>can play it waiting at the dentist/hospital/restaurant/etc
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>playing video games in public, nintendo
:|
>playing video games in public, steam deck
:OOOOOOO
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>>722687262
The Steam Deck GPU is a gaming console graphics solution by AMD, launched on February 25th, 2022. Built on the 7 nm process, and based on the Van Gogh graphics processor, in its 100-000000405 variant, the device supports DirectX 12 Ultimate. The Van Gogh graphics processor is an average sized chip with a die area of 163 mm2 and 2,400 million transistors. It features 512 shading units, 32 texture mapping units, and 16 ROPs. The card also has 8 raytracing acceleration cores. AMD includes 16 GB LPDDR5 memory, which are connected using a 128-bit memory interface. The GPU is operating at a frequency of 1000 MHz, which can be boosted up to 1600 MHz, memory is running at 1375 MHz.
Its power draw is rated at 15 W maximum. The console's dimensions are 298 mm x 117 mm x 49 mm, and it features a igp cooling solution.
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>>722685626
The Steam Deck is using an APU which is limited to 15W and most of it's horsepower was invested in the GPU side (even today it's still one of the best performing handhelds on 4W-15W loads). Any CPU-heavy game is going to perform like ass. I can give you a few of my personal examples:
>HoloCure drops to 30-40fps on later stages due to the number of entities in the game (CPU is too weak to handle this)
>Switch emulation struggles on demanding 3D games, but works fine on many 2D or 2.5D games
>many 3D games require FSR to run at 60fps on it's display resolution (1280x800), so docking it to a 1080p screen won't be ideal
>Path of Exile can't really run without making the whole screen a blur with it's dynamic resolution
However, a lot of games still work fine. Especially older games and consoles older than the Switch to the point they can even run on 2k resolution at 60fps just fine.

Other handhelds are much more powerful, especially newer ones, but at the cost of battery and/or additional weight. However, they generally cost 700-1500 USD. So it's up to you to decide on your budget and preferred performance.
You can check benchmarks online, but keep in mind that most handhelds that get released within 9 months of each other usually have the same CPU so they generally perform very similar. In which case it's up to you to decide on the form factor.
However, at some point you have to ask yourself if it's worth investing too much into a handheld. GPD just dropped GPD Win 5 which is a complete overkill and costs 1600. At that point it's actually much better to just buy a $1200 desktop PC and a sub-$500 handheld and just use Sunshine+Moonlight to stream from your own PC.

>>722686078
https://bazzite.gg/

>>722686618
You're delusional if you think anyone is putting handhelds into their pockets. You think anyone carried their PSP in a pocket?
>Kids are small and have smaller pockets
>adults have a lot more shit in their pockets
People just use bags.
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>>722684075
Can’t play Supraworld :(
Maybe the devs will fix it eventually, it’s still early access.
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x86 + ARM is the way to go.
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>>722687219
Why would you want to with trackpads?
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>>722687586
Steam Deck has gyro. Consolefags aim with gyro controls nowadays, apparently. So it's no different from playing on a console.
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>>722687219
OP said it's the endgame of gaming. If you can't comfortably play EU4 on it then it clearly isn't the endgame.
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>>722687643
Except you dont need to aim in eu4.
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>>722684075
Brainlet question:
How easy is it to run RPG maker games from dlsite?
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>>722687205
Do you really need 64 gigabytes of ram
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>>722688051
I misread the game, shit.
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>>722689538
If it will be your only computer then yes. But for just a handheld as a secondary or even a primary gaming machine, even 16GB is enough.
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>>722689538
modern games barely run on 32, it's a nice bit of futureproofing that costs <100$ (5% of the price) anyway
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>>722688332
super ez
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>>722687643
>EU4 with gyro controls
I need to see some autist speedrun WC with this now. the DK bongos of /gsg/
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>>722689849
>modern games
The games which "barely run on 32GB" aren't going to run on the GPD. You're usually not starving for RAM, you're starving for VRAM, VRAM speeds and compute. This device can't compete with high end GPUs which themselves are already struggling to run these games. It's just physics.
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>>722684190
It's another product to consoom and have an identify through!!!
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>>722684075
cute girl. i wish i had a cute tranner wife like this :(
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stop posting my wife
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Whats the most advanced console that the deck can emulate well?
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>>722684075
Fucking hell it is the endgame of gaming so much so that I don't think I would even buy Deck 2 if it came out. There's just no realistic and meaningful enough room for improvement. It's just such a good all-rounder and other UMPCs proved that while certain shortcomings of the Deck could be improved on they come at a price - often literal price. Any realistic improvement for the Deck can only come from software at this point.
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>>722691497
>see girl
>think of trannies
its unironically over for you
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>>722693743
>PS2, GameCube, Wii, 3DS
I think all of these work perfectly.
>Xbox, Wii U and PS3
These 3 also work, kind of. A handful of games from these consoles require performance patches. Meanwhile PS3 emulation is still not as mature as most other systems. Wii U is probably the best supported among these 3.
>Switch
I'm pretty sure at least half the Switch games work fine at 60fps. Most others are either hovering around 50-60fps, or are running at around 35-40fps and you need to tinker a bit to get them to a playable framerate.
The problem with Switch is the fact that emulator development got kinda fucked when Yuzu and Ryujinx got bullied out of the market by Nintendo. So for a while there were 6 different emulators, none of which had any development being done on them and were just rebranded Yuzu or Ryujinx. Recently there have been some performance improvements and hopefully now that Switch 2 exists the original Switch emulator development can pick up without Nintendo raping people over it.
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>>722684075
>can be used everywhere, whether outside or inside, at work or at home, in bed or at the dinner table
This is not a positive thing
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deckchads keep winning. i automatically pigeon hole switch'ers into the same mouth breathing bucket as iToddlers. have fun getting your switch bricked remotely while my deck never connects to anything now that I have every emulator that matters under the sun to play any vidja outside of the newest modern slop from the past few years.
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>>722688332
As long as you use this, it's super easy:
https://github.com/bakustarver/rpgmakermlinux-cicpoffs
For the rest, use easyrpg:
https://easyrpg.org/
>>722693770
I waited almost 2 years after launch before buying, and I still regret it not buying it sooner.
I even managed to make 2 friends buy it too: one streams from the PC almost all the time, the other is practically tech illiterate, uses it only for indie and porn games.
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>>722691718
She's fourteen years old, you sick bastard.
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Do I need a deck if i never leave the house?
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>>722684075
PC + Switch 2 is all you need.

>>722684190
I can game laying down, sideways, couching, etc. Very convenient for late night sessions.
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>>722696463
>spoiler
same
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>>722695316
this is a tranime board website
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>>722684075
is it powerful enough? im genuinely tempted to buy one
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>>722693770
Sauce on the game, anon, pretty please?
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>>722684190
Probably the cheapest setup for low-end gaming and computing in case you have none. You can't even build a low-end gaming PC anymore.
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>>722684075

I love it. I played all of BG2 and the expansion on Deck. Hades 2 is perfection on it also. And lately I’ve been trying graphically intense triple AAA games on it with the remote play feature. Works flawlessly. My main PC has a 5080 so I can max out settings and then stream to the deck and play whatever in bed or the couch. Also huge if you travel a lot.
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>>722698725
You can, if you're not planning to play the modern, non-optimized garbage
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>>722698452
Mirage Feathers. It's very short but very fun.
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>>722687062
>the deck is nothing more than an overpriced switch.
>is cheaper than a switch
What did anon mean by this
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>>722684075
>>722685480
>>722687270
>>722696281
>>722699347
>Laptops can be used everywhere
That’s not a feature, it’s a common thing since the 90s. Tablets are better equipped to handle it.

>Sit on bed, couch and floor
Again, not a feature. Tablets can do this.

>Mod the hardware and software
Lies, you can not play multiplayer games, you can not fix Valve Corporation mistakes that caused Proton to not work. You can not download Windows without problems. Exclusively to AMD chips, no support for Nvida.

>Preset settings
This doesn’t fix the gaming problem for DRM or incompatible games

>Touchpads
Junk feature, it’s like touchscreen but worse.

>Linux
Not a great choice of words since Valve Corporation doesn’t support native Linux software to support Linux community. You’re supporting the bad guys.

>mods, eroge, drm-free
Not a feature, any supporting hardware can achieve the same results.

Shut up steamie, buy a tablet, they’re cheaper and play android/ios games. Something Steam Deck can’t do.
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>>722698725
>Probably the cheapest setup for low-end gaming and computing in case you have none.
You can get a pretty decent PC for $450-$600 and have 3x-4x the CPU performance, 8x-10x the GPU performance, 2x more RAM and more internal storage compared to the Steam Deck. And that's absolutely worth the price jump from the $420 Steam Deck.

>>722700539
>that's not a feature because another device has this feature
By this logic tablets are useless because you have phones. Shut up and buy a phone?
>play android/ios games. Something Steam Deck can’t do.
Linux can run Android application with hardware acceleration just fine. And it's not like there's any Android games worth playing.
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>>722699120
Nice, will look into it, thanks anon.
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>>722684190
>hurr durr you can play bido gaem while laying in bed
Yes, that's one of the use cases, and the rest are similarly "hurr sure you can play games in [place away from desk]" where surely you can fill the brackets with plenty of examples without help. If you don't want to play video games in [insert non-desk place here], then don't buy one. Not everything has to be for you.
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I want them to succeed because, like the late 2000s/early 10s, it'll force developers to optimize for them first. Meaning it runs down stream of games no longer running like shit on PC.

Your 1080 didn't last all those years because it was a powerhouse, it's because games were still getting 360 and PS3 versions and had to be properly optimized for those systems.
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>>722700897
No it can’t play android games, there’s no support for it on Linux. Bluestacks emulator is Windows and Mac, Waydroid doesn’t play games and Nox is bundleware. There is no possible way to play android games on Linux.
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>>722684190
They're __fun__
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>>722705146
Waydroid works nigger
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>>722684075
I'm not trans.
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You know handhelds have a fixed, non forward/backwards compatible support right anon?

Why buy a $600 handheld when i can get a nonforward/backward compatible thinkpad with UPGRADABLE RAM, 2k display, and storage

And with steam os to boot

If your selling point is modularity, portability, upgradability, and compute, then a laptop beats a steamweenie deck all the time

You can put a laptop on your bed too anon
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>>722684075
>no mouse
>no keyboard
No good.
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>>722686078
You can play non Steam games on it ya know anon, it's not some walled garden like Gaystation or iToddler shit.
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>>722707210
>No source claims it
>Developer advise people to use it for gaming
>One GitHub issue about HSR being unplayable
No it’s not steamie
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>>722709946
Technically it’s just like Apple, you cannot play games unless you make an account for Steam to install Proton. Valve doesn’t allow you to use Proton without Steam. Stop supporting the bad guys.
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I will buy it once the tech reach 6H battery life on max performance setting
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>>722708817
>If your selling point is modularity, portability, upgradability, and compute, then a laptop beats a steamweenie deck all the time
The selling point is playing a fucking handheld, with controls that are actually made for video games
>put a laptop on your bed
Fucking lol, ergonomic nightmare, no thanks
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>2015
>"PC is the master race because you can sit at your desk and use keyboard/mouse"
>2025
>"PC is the master race because you can play it in bed"
?
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>>722715037
KB+M is the selling point, not sitting at a desk. But the nice thing is I can do both whenever the urge strikes me.
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>>722691718
I want to rape and kidnap her into my basement someone like that would enjoy it
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>>722712669
thats not even true mine has windows on it and from that point on you can do whatever
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>>722691718
Your wife is a stinky lesbian.
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>>722714873
We have keyboards as controllers, get with the times steamie.
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I use mine more than my high end pc now, it's incredible
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>>722716695
>Do whatever you want
Except GPU updates, you know the important updates to get the game to run. Also you can’t play Microsoft exclusive games because they don’t accept the Steam Deck as a PC Windows version. Stop lying about things that aren’t available.
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I really like that GBA emulation scales pixel perfect to the screen
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>>722684075
It's not endgame but it's so close. An 'eck with a good battery life (at least 6 hours gaming) and much smaller form factor will be end game. It feels like we're close. Once/if ARM can translate x86 better we'll basically be there.
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>>722684075
>can be used everywhere
games should only be played in the comfyness of your home



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