You don't play through games with a walkthrough, right?
>>722694672Generally no. That specific game is impossible to beat on a first playthrough though. Even with savescumming like mad, if you don't get a few key units or are too slow on progression to stuff like the lemon, you're just fucked. You have to savescum to capture and not kill, savescum to not waste turns and generally not waste turns on doing side stuff since your enemies build up troop sizes so quick. Even if you don't read a guide straight up, I'm positive anyone who has actually beaten that game has gotten tips on it.
>>722695683>That specific game is impossible to beat on a first playthrough though.It's the opposite though, as long as don't literally get 100% conquered the game automatically wins for you as long as you defend for long enough on a first run exclusively. It's only on subsequent runs that you have to actually beat the Monster Army.
>>722694672I never understood playing with a guide and taking away your own freedom.
>clear a chapter>look up whether I missed anything>I did, oh well>get back to playing
>>72269467210 fucking before 2030????
>>722696004Aren't there specific milestones you have to hit at certain turn numbers? Like the lemon thing to keep that demon bitch from awakening. And the gourds too? It's been years since I actually played it. You mean if you just never expand and sit in the first territory forever everyone else will duke it out and it will all work out in the end? Assuming not since you would get easily overpowered.
>>722696175Sometimes you're just stuck, man
>>722694672I'm going to Alice!Where is my Alice?
>>722696330here!
>>722696413huh? so everybody gets an Alice now? I had to work hard for mine
>>722696273The gourds automatically break even if you do nothing after long enough
>>722696413I'm going to impregnate ALyCE!
>>722696268
>>722696658Ah right. I just remember the lemon being the first real thing where you HAVE to get there in time. The siege where those 4 dudes attack all in the same turn is beatable even but even if you manage to do that, the basic demons have huge troop counts. You have to poach from Takeda and a few other countries on the right side of the map before you even have a chance of heading to the left for the lemon. It's just an uphill struggle after a certain point. Lots of savescumming to not get that premature game over.
>>722697147Just ignore Takeda and do Uesugi -> Mouri instead
>>722696789Jesus fuck, i know the game is beefy but come fucking on, is the translator doing it in his spare time one hour every month?
>>722697768That's editing %Translation is 100%
>>722696235Good to see my edit getting used
>>722697147>You have to poach from Takeda and a few other countries on the right side of the mapNot sure what poaching you're talking about since all the units you need from these (Uesugi, Takeda, Houjou, Tokugawa) you get just for beating them. Not even for capturing their officers (you may want to capture Ran, though).If anything, calling for reinforcements is a lot more important. Maria and Urza give you a big advantage.
>>722697806holy shit that's even worse then. All you have to do is read through all the fucking text multiple times. how is that taking that long? manga gamer must be one guy and 5 fish play twitch.
>>722697439Ok. The whole point is there is a hard turn limit though. Cant remember if it was 50, 80, or 100 but say you focused on the entire right side of the map first. Your playthrough is fucked. If you can't get almost all the way to the left in time. That leaves you with very few, if any spare turns to do dungeons, character events or really anything beyond the bare essentials and PERFECT fights, leaving yourself enough resources to ward off retaliation. I stand by my original post. Nobody who beat that game on a first playthrough did so without at least some tips. There is too much rng in the kill/capture system and there is at least 1 hard turn limit event for a game over.
>>722698031I assume editing also involves reinserting the text into the game and making sure nothing breaks.
>>722698051You aren't supposed to do everything on the first run though, it's literally impossible to do so.
What's the most efficient way to play Sengoku Rance and what's the best units and Commanders to use?
>>722698368I didn't say do everything. I said do really anything but focus on the main goal of conquering everything. Never lose battles and waste resources on restocking troops. Never miss out on capturing commanders who become pretty damn useful if not essential against the demons. Use turns raising taxes in all the right spots so you have enough sustainable gold to increase max troops to even keep up with the huge jumps in numbers in the end game. It's obviously not a game that is meant to be beaten on the first try but even with hard savescumming, you can still just get fucked over by going right and not left at the right time.
>>722698907You can just defend against demons for some time and then they start retreating anyway
>>722698851>What's the most efficient way to play Sengoku RanceInvade Hara immediately, wait for Ashikaga to declare war (Reload if this doesn't happen) then go from there.Tactician > Cavalry (If you can get them) > Foot Soldiers > Onmyouji > the rest Archers mostly suck other than like Isoroku
>>722699005I assume you mean the demon siege. Yea, you can even beat them. The lemon is deep in their territory and if you don't get it at turn 100 or whatever though, it's game over. At that point in the game, the numbers are stacked so much against you that it's difficult to even break through. And if you haven't built up infrastructure you lose on time.
>>722698851Spearmen cheese but that's pretty lame.
>>722699076Maybe that's why I had a tough time with the game. I thought archers were cool
>>722699190when I played the game I think they were already gone from that location by that turn, maybe I am just that good
>>722694672it's pretty much impossible to clear every game in this series without it
>>722699384You definitely don't need any sort of guide for Quest or IX
>>722699384Only played Sengoku, but I had heard the other games were much more straight forward and didn't have as much content to miss. Is that not true?
>>722698851Battle OrdersNatori in generalOmachi in generalUrza, either by herself or with DousanYuzumi with the thing that cuts units in half and gives more movesMouri Teru with the item that increases counterattack damageTakeda + One Eyed Bonuses are crazy powerful
>>722699843I never found Yuzumi that powerful for how much you have to invest into her.
>>722699997Yeah but she's really cute so I'll shill for her
I liked the cook
>>722700218She used to be my favorite but Zombie Chinu grew on me
>>722698851Natori/Urza + a monk that restores actionsUrza/KenshinA high INT tacticianA diviner guarding your teamMost of the reinforcement unitsLategame Kentarou as a solo defensive unitOr just use strong uniques in a team
>>722700532imagine the smell
>>722700218Me too but at the end of the day you have too many ninjas and she isn't top tier.
>>722700595She didn't like showering before sex even when she was alive
>>722699190>The lemon is deep in their territory and if you don't get it at turn 100 or whatever thoughNo it's not, it's next to Hara. And on your first playthrough upon reaching turn 80 something, the demon army will give all its territories to you except for their starting ones.
>>722700532Slut though
>>722700767>it's next to HaraBut no for real. It's far left side of the map.
>>722701292It's literally in Mikan
>>722701691Cairo or Morocco.
>>722701691>>722701812It has been a while but I think we may both be right. You need to get her 2 or 3 lemons to keep her from transforming?
>>722701812The bridge is in Morocco and you get a gameover if you don't attack by a certain point, or you can delay it forever by getting Suzume to do a mission as long as you border it. The lemon tree is near Hara
>>722694672God i love alice.
>That specific game is impossible to beat on a first playthrough though.lol what? unless you just mean beating it without dying, then you're very bad at games. 722694672what triggers this? I think I've played like 5 times and haven't seen this particular alicesoft wall break.
>>722702963nta but I am fairly certain it's somewhere in Alice's Mansion.
>>722702963It's from Alice Mansion -> Staff Corner -> TADA
>>722694672I want to fugg big boss alice.
>>722703090>>722703369thanks, also I botched that comment horribly.
>>722694672I wish I could play a version of Sengoku Rance with 1/10th of the dialogue. Eroge should not have so many words.
>>722704269press the left mouse button, anon.
>>722704434How about you just say what you're gonna say in 20 words or less, you fuckin bitch.
>>722704525sure, but you also always just press a button.
>>722704269bro just hold down ctrl
>>722703993Ngl bros I got sad whenever he interacted with sill in magnum. The music was doing a good job.
>obscure PS1/2 Jarpig>multiple endings>in order to obtain the best ending you must follow a specific set of cryptic actions or else you're fucked>sometimes your early game decisions also matterThis happened more than once or twice so yeah. After I play blind I like to read a gamefaq that shows me how to enter a path that I missed.For example I was only able to play Valkyrie Profile for its entirety when I first got internet access back in 2005. The game otherwise cucks you from another ending if you don't follow a very specific flowchart.
you can have world building or you can have 3 line dialogue
>>722698851I haven't played in like a decade, but IIRC increasing troop size is a trap as enemy troop sizes scale with yours to some degree.Takeda commanders are generally the strongest, but hard to get and expensive as bonus. One eye has that fox woman that can basically win the game by herself, though the rest are good in dungeons due to high level caps. Also expensive.I think Mouri was the best "bang for your buck" bonus to get, not too expensive and gets you 4 commanders, 3 of which are among the better ones.In the highest difficulty you have to abuse the shit out of the OP units that remove enemy actions and do percentage based damage. Only fight the last battle of a territory, don't defend at all, and do everything with those battle fans that fight your battles for you.
>>722705349RPGMaker slop has rotted people's brains
GRIMM victims
>>722694672As a kid I used to follow walkthroughs step by step. It was a brief period but a period nonetheless. I've no idea how I thought that was a fun thing to do.
>>722705709Kentarou's easy to level and solos defense battles all on his own. I think he deserves high tier at the very least.
>>722705709warriors also fall off hard on highest difficulty because they do way less damage when the troop counts are imbalanced
>>722705709I can't wait for the X Tier lists of hundreds of cards
>>722705709where's my nigga goemon
>>722709002It's the kid in troll tier. Fucking guy has like 100% success on assassinations whenever you're up against him.
>>722696413Dohna Dohna was forgettable
>>722705709>low tierThe musket unit is the strongest you know?
The CG they were too COWARDLY to make official
>>722710242Proven by the fact that the director and main artist haven't worked on any eroge since then.
>>722705709Did they bring back the correct characters for X /v/?
>>722705709Spider gf is crazy good with the right items
>>722711641You know, for some reason Nozomi (moe girl) always felt like she should've been much more important than she actually was. Guess not.
>>722710242I will tell you what was forgettable. Mamatoto.I liked it but it was very simple in gameplay and somewhat obtuse for some of the porn.
>>722711906She was in Quest
>>722711663all of the youkai are crazy. omachi and her tits might outshine them (why does large lightning only take 1 action?) but they're all busted
>>722711641Forehead girl deserved better
>>722712175which one there are 3
>>722694672I'll stop playing games with a walkthrough when devs stop making games with the assumption that the player will be using a walkthrough.>just search every accessible area of the game after every thing that happens to see what's changed so you don't miss anything No, fuck you.
>>722712225The blue one with glasses, only Magic can rival her forehead title but she managed to remain relevant.
>>722711641Fivehead is besthead.
I had two different online friends I forced at gunpoint to play Sengoku and they both independently arrived at the conclusion that Daidouji was the best girl in the game. Unusual
>>722712491>Magic foreheadYeah about that...
>>722711641Isn't this level of strength almost canon?
>>722712641cursed
>>722712735Rances power level differs depending on his motivation. He's able to kill orochi because he wants to fuck the temple bitches but he doesn't give a single fuck about the actual war in JAPAN.
>>722712735Rance would be higherShizuka would be higherMagic would be higherLeila would be lowerKentarou would be higherSuzume would be way, way higher
>>722712843At least she got it back as a hag
>>722698289Crazy that I know exactly where this line is from.
>>722712961Do I have terrible taste or is she hotter here than when she was young?
>>722712641her boobs look really good in this outfit idk exactly why
>>722712893suzume is kinda underrated in this list, because it ignores her ability to instakill 9999 spear generics in maps where they cannot be tactician cheesed.
>>722713023Magic is one of the girls that got hotter with age
>>722698289Alicesoft games actually are an engine with good tooling available for them, so not really. Word wrapping is about as complex as it gets.
>>722713159because you can see her body silhouette well even though it has no obvious exposure or signs of cleavage
>>722702041I'm pretty sure you need to take Nagato first for the timer to start.
just learn japanese
>>722704881https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3uWZv_G2E
>A design so good they made it an actual character.
Where do i download 02 kai or kaikai in japanese
>>722716913Best decision they've ever made.
>>722717090nvm
>>722711641The only characters in this list who should've been brought back are Yukihime since they brought back her dad (the devs pretty much apologized that she didn't come back) and Seigan given he was a pretty prominent character in SR, especially when compared to people like Yukihime's dad or Agridea.
I got money to burn. Do I buy sengoku and quest on jast? I've played sengoku before but no other rance games. I cope with the belief that daiteikoku actually will get translated.
>>722717693I liked quest a lot.
>>722717473The only reason I would want Yukihime to return from the shack of drugged gangrape... is so I can send her back myself!
>>722700569>+ a monk that restores actionsMonks can do that in battles? lol, I thought they only did that in dungeons. That sounds like the ultimate cheese
>>722717693nyes so you can start preparing for X next year for sure
>>722717473Agireda came back for an ebin Kamen rider reference so it's ok
>>722718050Some have that skill, there is a semi-generic girl that does it.And yes, it's absolutely busted since they let you use those "consumes all actions" strong attacks multiple times per fight
>>722716913He memed one of his fated women into existence
>>722700218Mouri house almost instantly became my favourite house for some reason I don't understand. In terms of combat Teru is probably my favourite unit in the game
Did not expect to see her again
>>722695683I beat it on my first time. I'm not sure how/why the lemon filtered you, just have some people with good search (I took like 3 amazing old men my first time because I was retarded).
>>722718223Damn
>>72271851201 and 03 had some real throwaway girls In a way it's pretty crazy that the two moment important girls to the plot didn't get introduced until a 8 and 9
>>722695683I'm pretty sure I lost to Xaiver first time I got that far in the game. But second try I beat with 0 score anf zero help
>>722718223>since they let you use those "consumes all actions" strong attacks multiple times per fightTheoretically but because Monks are one of the slowest units in the game you get one maybe 2 more uses. Even with Kenshin Urza.
>>722717693Buy physical release from mangagamer will come with download code too and game on usb. For quest limited edition available so art book also. Rance 01 is nice but hard for normalfags.
>>722718719>you get one maybe 2 more usesThat's enough to turn a fight around.
