Games where you can freely engage in drug use never sat right with me.
>>722717715thats because you are a square
>>722718112 You like Huey Lewis And The News?Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this; Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip To Be Square". A song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the band itself. HEY ANON!
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>>722717715That's because you're a nerdy prude.
>>722717715>getting triggered by fake drugs Cringe. Do you cry when somebody smokes too?
drugs are based. they ruined my life and put me through hell but if I could go back I would do it all over again
>>722718490>but if I could go back I would do it all over againYou can, brother. I am on them as we speak.
>>722718521first thing I'm doing when my kid becomes an adult or moves out is ordering K from the dnm's of the future. Hopefully my old extinct favorites are back by then (mxe, dck, 3-ho-pcp)
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>>722717715You know you don't need to intake new chemicals to get addicted to things right? Video games abuse the reward system in your brain and are also just escapism like drugs are.
>>722717715Roleplaying a drug addict is fun. You could make an unarmed/melee buffout addict meathead, most entertaining builds I've done in Fallout games.
>>722718490>drugs are based. they ruined my life and put me through hell but if I could go back I would do it all over again
>>722717715the cool thing about RPGs is that you can RP a character that doesn't take them. i honestly don't think much drug use would be recommended in a combat setting anyway
>>722720671>i honestly don't think much drug use would be recommended in a combat setting anywayFucking lmao
Why are stimpaks considered a drug? Its like calling an epi-pen the same as crack cocaine
>>722720886Medicinal drugs are still drugs. There are good drugs, ya know?
>>722717715Mentats look like Spree
>>722720886You absolutely do not recreationally use an epi pen, anon
>>722721045>He never shot up his soon to be expired Epi Pens for a rush of adrenaline
>>722720886i think stimpaks are hinted at being morphine, mentats are amphetamines, jet is idk poppers or some shit
>>722721034They're a combination of Mentos and Tic-Tacs so pic related is pretty close
>>722721294Med X is morphine, anon. Australian cuckolds banned fallout 3 because it was portrayed in the game
>>722721294MedX is supposed to be morphine
>>722721294Med-X is morphine, jet is basically Jenkem
>can inhale radioactive supermeth>can't smoke a simple doobie or even cigsApocalypse got me fucked up.
>>722717715I literally never used these while playing any fallout.
>>722717715this guy does NOT party
>>722721529This. The pip boy interface is so slow that it's more efficient to just mow down the enemies guns blazing than juice up with a tactical combat drug binge
>>722721509>jet is basically JenkemI hate how true this is. All Jet users in the Fallout series must have some serious Halitosis
>>722721509i think thats debated
>>722717715>Stealth Suit Mark 2 purposely addicts you to morphine YOU FUCKING SLUT WHORE
>>722721757No it's fucking not
>>722721617If I need to heal enough to stack a stimmy and a bloodpack I usually throw on the usual psycho buff med x. The rest are just easy early caps.
>>722721757>debated>literally uses "fertilizer" as a ingredient
>>722721757Bro, jet is fermented cow shit.
>>722721834>around before, but invented after the war
OP is one of Elon's "trad" twitter cucks who doesn't like killing pigs in GTA.
>>722721993Bethesda Fallout isn't canon. Myron invented Jet.
>>722718112gotem
>>722717715There is an addiction mechanic. Iirc that actually matters in Fallout 4 survival mode. Like to get unnaddicted you had to be fully fed and watered and when you take adictol you start to die of hunger thirst and tiredness right away and your immune system gets way weaker and you can't take adictol again for a long time. Also adictol was rarer in survival mode so you didn't always have one handy.
>>722721881are there any drug chemists here who know if IRL cow pies have stimulants and hallucinogens in their detritus?
>>722722178oh for sure, you got eat it fresh though
>>722722089Nta but I think that's what he was implying
>>722717715Remember that Bethesda censored Morphine (to Med-X) and was rude to fans complaining about it.I lost the screenshot, anyone have it? Bethesda said something like "Who cares?!".
>>722722308It was fucked but Med-X ended up becoming kind of a staple in the lore
>>722721803Sent to the storage locker for being a drug abusing skank. Chinese Stealth Suit still reigns supreme without the potential for schizophrenia that comes from rampant stealthboy usage.
>>722720886If you fall down the stairs and break your shoulders, Mr. Doctor will give you some fentanyl for the transport.
>>722722226That's clearly not true because drug chemists don't produce food content, they extract the oils and alkaloids from unprocessed ingredients, meaning that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>722722308>aus government wouldn't shut the fuck about it because muh drugs>changes the name and keeps it in anywayWon't be the last time they will pull this stunt either.
>>722722426I wish. They won't even give me gayass tylenol 3s anymore.
>>722722476you never done a drug that wasn't in an LED vape
>>722722476It's truet. drug chemist
>>722721529Steady is extremely broken in New Vegas.
>>722722476what youre thinking of is a capitalist
>>722722178wasn't there a drug made out of shit and piss that you huff? I assume it's a reference to that.
>>722721527>tfw no mutant heroin to get me noddin' off
Since it's on topic here, does anybody know how to get an opiate prescription these days? They're really stingy with it these days and I have days where I can't move due to pain. Leaf btw
>>722722786pretty sure thats a hoax
>>722722786That's jenkem, anon, but it's supposed to be human shit, not cow dung.
>>722722843It is quite literally in every single fallout game except the first
>>722722838Have they told you to kys (medically) yet?
>>722722896It doesn't fucking matter what kind of shit you make it out of it just needs to be fermented piss and shit that you left out in the sun
>>722722838you don't want that, it sucks but find something lets gripping
>>722722919i mean in IRL jankem. i'm pretty sure that kills you
>>722722965Nah I'm not an organ donor>>722722986I already just buy Dilaudid when I need pain relief but it would be nice to have something that I could be fairly certain wouldn't kill me from a badly measured pill
>>722717715Well I'm all about bodily agency, so by all means don't play em while I play em
>>722723028It's not dangerous at all it's actually pretty good for you
>>722719045Is that a rain coat?
>>722723028methane would make you feel lightheaded, but yes it can kill you
>>722718268TRY STARTING A VIDYA THREAD ON /v/ NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD
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>>722722482Mostly their attitude towards the fans of the series that I didn't like.
>>722723402>t. strange homosexual
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>>722723451At least they've been consistent about that since then unlike their attitude towards the fallout lore
>>722723457no u
>>722723536million?
>>722723516I win
>>722723490Man oney really fell off
>>722722372>you will never be an enclave soldier who fucks a chinese remnant spy so hard she disavows her country to be with youwhy even live
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>>722723052>implying you need to be a donor in order for them to pirate your organs
>>722723837I mean they can go ahead and try I don't think they'd be worth much
My stealth suit talks to me irl
>>722718490I've never done drugs, always resisted the urge to do anything stupid and risky, and I often think the homeless junkie begging on the street has had a more fulfilling life than me.
>>722721294No, med-x is the fallout equivalent of super morphine, stimpaks are this magic medicine juice that regrows tissue
>>722721509Jet is speed; the name pretty much gives it away. OG meth used to be manufactured with fertilizer compounds, so it even shares that similarity.
>>722722838>They're really stingy with it these days and I have days where I can't move due to pain.Yeah, no shit. I'm guessing you're unfamiliar with how bad opiod withdrawal is. It's not like caffeine withdrawal where you've just got to do deal with a headache for a day or meth withdrawal where all you need is a sandwich and a nap and you're good to go. It's fucking excruciatingly both physically and mentally. Only a total fucking quack would prescribe opioids for long term chronic pain management.I'd honestly just recommend sticking to good old ibuprofen, 600 mg for severe pain. If that's still not good enough, maybe talk to your doctor about getting on some alternatives to opioids like maybe gabapentin
>>722724628>Stimpak>Stempak>Stem cellsHmmmm
>>722724654I was a heroin addict for years anon I know how bad it is. I have friends who died when they stopped prescribing them because all they could afford to stave off withdrawal was fent. But the fact that I have to ask for permission when I need pain relief is absurd, I buy them off the street and use them as prescribed when I'm in pain, risking my life shouldn't be my only option because nogs can't stop drinking cough syrup.
>>722724665cool, never saw the connection
>>722724628>>722724665Did Fallout call them Stimpaks because DOOM called their small medkits Stimpacks? I always wondered about this.
>>722724821Honestly just made it up I have no idea if that's what they were going for
>>722724654opioids are objectively healthier than ibuprofen and tylenol, which actually destroy your organs over time.
>>722725129Not only that, they don't work for anything worse than a mild headache
>>722724960makes sense, although maybe not since why wouldn't they just call it stempak. was no need to censor yourself like that in the 90s
>>722724953Yes, fallout 1 also had a doom reference with the yellow/red/blue keycards
>>722718490There is nothing more ecstatic nothing more fulfilling than smoking meth
>>722726180trvke
>>722718268Check these dubs
>>722717715Most just don't represent withdraw and addiction very well. When you can hit up a doctor and waste pennies on it, or they're so bountiful with no long term debuffs, there's no reason not to junkie max for all the sweet sweet buffs. Fallout 1/2 were a little more harsh than the 3D ones, but not by much. Best one is probably Disco Elysium, where it doesn't give you debuffs or anything, but it gives you buffs enough that you basically stop being able to function without pounding down a bottle of vodka, a pack of cigs, and god knows what before you do literally anything.
I am about to freely engage in some drug use right now actually good idea OP
I mean when you start drinking the bong water and start adding stuff for the hell of it... idk it's kind of like that old fable about nail broth... Except you say fuck it and start using bullets :D
>>722717715Adventurers and other such "heroes" generally only care about immediate short-term benefits and don't worry about associated long-term consequences.
>>722726486>you basically stop being able to function without pounding down a bottle of vodka, a pack of cigs, and god knows what before you do literally anythingI play vidya to escape reality, not immerse myself in a slightly different version of it
In Fallout Tactics you can actually softlock yourself with irresponsible drug use. When character with Small Frame gets bad enough withdrawal to reduce their ST to zero while on (or when entering) tactical map, they will have carrying capacity of 0, which the way game does the math count as Overencumbered - Unable to Move even when you completely empty their inventory. You can only drop/kill the character or (when it happens on the protagonist) wait it out letting the game run for few hours (can't compress time with pip boy like you could in F1 and 2)Witdrawals on world map are fine because the effects don't kick until next time you enter tactical map meaning you'll have the time to walk it off and return to normal stats.Found out the hard way. On ironman playthrough.
>>722720886Super-stimpacks are addictive I think?
>>722721371No wonder they're addictive.
Well, in Quasimorph, you need to do drugs to keep the demons at bay. Morphine is also pretty useful as an emergency healing item. But they can also give you an addiction, and then the unfortunate clone starts puking all over the place.
Well maybe they shouldnt give you superpowers like in FO or Bioshock (gameplay wise.)
>>722717715Normies think drugs, especially weed, are harmless fun.
>>722724953I think they both probably got it from 40k, since both took heavy influence from it.
>>722722372Why do stealth boys give you schizophrenia?
>>722730361Drugs can be harmless fun unless you have low impulse control or get into them too young to know any better
>>722730691So that they could add Nightkin
>>722724654You take ibuprofin for extended periods it'll kill your liver and give you seizures. Then you'll never be able to take it again in your life.
>>722720886Because it's stem cells stimulant, hence why it's a healing item. They are actually addictive.
>>722726445There are no dubs on /v/, retard
LMAOing at your lives while I smoke a bong with my 3 weed smoking girlfriends (yes they're smoking weed)
>>722722308All the established drugs in classic FO also had fake sci-fi names, so I'm okay with Med-X instead of morphine.
>>722732226We were engaged in sexual activity then took a weed smoking break (all 3 girlfriends smoke weed) and now we are smoking weed
>>722717715>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T DECIDE WHAT SUBSTANCES TO TAKE INTO YOUR OWN BODY! THOSE ARE TOO SPICY!!!Government was a mistake.
>>722720671>i honestly don't think much drug use would be recommended in a combat setting anywayNazis conquered half of Europe on meth and amphetamines and roids and so can you
>>722719392too bad there arent any games where you get actual backlash from said drugs that affect your gameplaylike blacking out and losing inventory, attacked by a mob for the shit you are doing while blacked out/high as a kite, or being robbedor even health problems arising aside from [addicted]
>>722732707>or even health problems arising aside from [addicted]The stat penalties in classic FO represent those health problems. Stats are more important in those games so an addicted character is a ruin compared to a healthy one.
>drink magical potion of damage reduction or potion of increased attack speed>ok :)>inject med-x or use psycho>no drug use is bad :((((explain
I used chain smoke cigarettes in SS13. Really, most drugs.
>>722732192me too, it was their attitude towards fans that complained that i didn't like.wonder if a screenshot of that survived somewhere, it's been 17 years after all. it's probably somewhere.
>>722732707in FO4 some companions give you shit for using chems in front of them while some enjoy you using chems i think
>>722734493yes, there are some negatives like companion complaints or a hit to stats with addicted and withdrawn, but it just would be nice to have real negative consequences to the massive positive bonuses that drug-stacking givesjust another little game mechanic to balance turning into superman
>>722724070in some ways he might have done, in raw sensation experience drugs are something to do when you're young and to quit when you grow up, doing them after that point is cringe, like the homeless junkie, get your shit together!
>>722717715I love playing Fallout on drugs then doing more drugs in game. Makes me feel alive.
>>722717715I would mircodose mushrooms every single day if I could. Nothing makes me feel more personable and talkative and feel great all the time than those little things. Literal miracle substance and true antidepressants except the APE strain, fuck cali-niggers for popularizing using that garbage for all the legal market chocolates, it has a high similar to a shitty cheap weed
>>722730691they emit "stealth radiation", which gives you brain damage over time.
drugs are cool but cokeheads should all be imprisoned
>>722731423Well there is but it's just the one
>>722737881nah, cokeheads were responsible for the 80's movie-era, the peak of western media.
>>722737738Do a macrodose and game. It's fucking wild.
>>722717715you're getting attacked by radioactive mutant creatures in an irradiated wasteland where any given moment could be certain deathdrugs are the least of your worries
You want actual gamer fuel?100mg of caffeine together with 200mg of L-theanine for properly locking in.Also great for work and studies but nobody cares about that shit.
>>722724642Hi,Druggie here.Speed is amphetamine. The word is not used to refer to methamphetamine.Best regards,
>>722717715>gen z 'edgy' /pol/tards continually outing themselves as puriteen soccor mums Name a more classic combination
>>722717715Just don't do drugs in those games, you're not forced to
It's funny how there's no arguments against OP besides infantile "you're stupid and you smell and you're gay" screeching, because the drugs turned your brains into mush
>>722738958Zoomers were failed by their elders in countless ways, one of those is teaching nuance. It was inevitable that they would reject all aspects of their broken society, good or bad.
>>722739142What argument is there to be made? OP is literally just virtue signaling to LARPing 'tradcath' fuckwits. Imagine being upset about having the ability to make the choice to do something in a game because that must in some way impinge on your irl 'moral purity'. You dipshits need to go fuck yourselves with a cactus.
>>722734493>>722734556True. In Fallout 4 Cait (unless you cure her) and Hancock encourage you to get drugged up and you get approval points for drinking 'til blacking out. But if you are against drugs, they get pissy.
>>722721529Yeah i have literally never found an actual use for mentats unless you specifically put something like speech 2 points below a check but that's completely retardedPsycho and med-x don't give enough of a buff to actually get you through combat you couldn't beat without them, jet is pointless when you have decent agility (or whatever buffs AP regen)Buffout i have used a couple times for a little extra carry weight but the temp max hp also sucks
>>722721527It's curious how Fallout has cigarettes as a lootable item but doesn't allow the player to actually use them even though many NPCs can be seen smoking. Hard drinking and extreme drugs are apparently okay but somehow tobacco is off limits. Is there any game other than Metal Gear that actually lets the player smoke?
>>722722178Its methane from the decomposing fecal matter, hits similar to nitrous irl
>>722739251A cactus is too good for them. May I suggest a starving badger, injected with meth?
>>722718490based
>>722723536>6Holy shit he gotten!
>>722724654>ummmm the withdrawals from poppy oils are simply way to deadly see>take this medicine that rots your liver and settles in your joints and testicles instead!>or how about one that puts holes in your digestive tract?Ummmm.... fuck off maybe?
>>722723186Its the type of clothing one wears if he knows he will get wet... from blood.
>>722724953>>722724665you blockheadsthey're called stimpacks cause they're PACKs of STIMulants. they're real. not just sci fi shit. a bunch of combat drug juice in a tube, basically. they, in lore, dont actually "heal" anything. they just fill you with enough painkillers and adrenaline juice that you dont think you're hurt in the first place
>>722739384Psycho and med x are still pretty useful. In New Vegas they are amazing because they both stack along with Slasher, so you get 50% DR and 50% damage boost. Pair it with the chemist perk and Logan's loophole, and you have almost perfect character that can flawlessly run on drugs.>>722722178The way it works, is that you huff methane gas that come from fresh dung and you get fucked up because of it. That's how jenkem works. In the jet/ultrajet/rocket/turbo case is you huff in very potent gas that are much more potent than usual methane, and it can affect you much more drastically (even to the point of incurable addiction). Myron found out that he can cash out from making jet by feeding hallucinogenic shrooms to the cattle and because of that the fresh dung also excretes more potent gas than usual. That way customers in casinos and workers can stay fucked up for longer and get more addicted, which would land more money and power for the crime families.
>>722740003Nice headcanon, bro.>Stimpak>A healing chem. When injected, the chem provides immediate healing of minor wounds.
I've just never been in a position where I really need to use chems.25AP from Jet? I'll just wait.God I wish I was super fucking rich so I could buy proper medical grade fentanyl and hire a crooked but competent nurse to dose me up.I'd need to have a lot of money. At least 10 million. I'd be responsible and wouldn't do it all the time, but that's current me talking, not coming down from a high me. That's why you need to be loaded and have a safety net.
Sometimes you just gotta do what's necessary by whatever means available, up to and including performance enhancers.>>722740003>>722740520Coming from Fallout to Starcraft was a bit of culture shock, those other stimpacks are built different.
>>722740582Jet is great in FO2 where 2 extra AP could mean the difference between shooting once per round and shooting twice per round.
>>722741445With the high chance of addiction and the limited stock early game I avoided it in the beginning and after that you get the bonus AP perks.
>>722724070weed's pretty safe if you have some self-control
>>722717715I recently played a game called "Mother Russia Bleeds" where your only healing item was Nekro, a fictional drug based on Krokodil. It felt contradictory to the games message how drug addiction fucks up both individuals and society on a large scale.But I usually avoid drugs in games like Fallout or Rimworld. That shit really fucks you up. "Performance enhancing drugs" usually just push your body past its limit and destroy it in the long term. Painkillers can be useful, but they won't heal your wounds or stop bleeding and infection.
>>722744217>It felt contradictory to the games message how drug addiction fucks up both individuals and society on a large scale.IIRC to get the "good" ending you need to use the stuff sparsely.Also Chronos in Katana Zero, or getting a grip in Hotline Miami 2, drugs as a plot device in (mostly) linear story are a classic.
>>722738092I'm not a fan of macrodosing and sitting around, that's exclusively for things like camping or going to festivals where you can move around and stretch your legs
>>722740176>fresh dungNo, you actually have to ferment it in the sun for a while beforehand. Not sure it's all methane due to that.
My co-worker's son hung himself after he started doing drugs.
>>722746921Did he do rope?
>>722718490I was hard-off drugs for most of my life because of 1) my stereotypically obsessively anti-drug white liberal dad who had permaguilt over smoking weed and huffing glue in his teens, and 2) being stereotypically autistic and terrified of them. However, I tried eating marijuana for the first time last year on a lark, and it was as scary as I'd expected at first, but ultimately blew my mind and was the best moment for my happiness and mental health in ten years. A complete left-field thing. I live in a legal state now and have 80 MG in my closet that I don't touch much. Any recommendations?
>>722732581Like that's difficult
>>722722178We're talking about mutated cows here, anon. With multiple heads. Pretty sure their shit is gonna be different.
>>722744610>IIRC to get the "good" ending you need to use the stuff sparsely.Actually, to get the good ending, you need to beat Nekro without healing or berserking, which is hard as balls but because there is zero penalty to dieing over and over again, it's actually doable.Outside of Nekros bossfight, you can inject as much as you want without any consequences.
>>722722838Pain where? Muscle, bone? I can help anon
>>722734071? They were called med-x by the original devs and you're upset Bethesda "censored" the name of morphine to med-x in fallout 3?>>722744217Go-juice and luciferium are great though. Especially with the quick rest machines your colony can almost quadruple its productivity
>>722718112So true
>>722750783Med-X was introduced in FO3, 1/2 had Buffout, Mentats, Psycho and Jet.I guess a more "Fallout-y" name for Med-X would be something cheesy like Painaway or Tough-X.
>>722750986Ah I was thinking of rad-x, my bad.And yeah fuck Bethesda desu I wish they had never acquired the IP
HEALTH PIPE MY ASS, THAT STUFF IS ADDICTIVE
>>722750783>They were called med-x by the original devsi thought it was morphine in fallout 1 and 2 but maybe the issue was that they had "morphine" in fallout 3 and then last-minute censored it as med-x
>>722723536BACK WILD BEAST
For me its research chemicals
>>722751837>i thought it was morphine in fallout 1 and 2There's no morphine or Med-X in FO1/2. In those games. Psycho gives you Damage Resistance instead of Damage.
>>722752005you're right
>>722750783>Go-juice and luciferium are great though.Maybe for disposable combat drones, but not for my warriors who will have to stay in top physical shape and need to be indipendent and tough.
