Well, anon? what'll it be?(FF Tactics thread)
So how do I setup Cloud to make him good? I read last thread to give him shortcast to speed up limit cast time and just spam cherry blossom? what else? what about gear?
looks like denuvo is cucking modding so until that's out I don't think we'll get much stuff
>>722789584Is it? Not doubting just curious what they are working on.
How do I sort my inventory in this?
>>722789958Well they're trying to understand everything to make tools but denuvo is getting in the way of that. You can make typical mods that change existing stuff but rewriting big chunks of code is cucked on the pc version for now.
>>722790072Oh so it's exactly as I said it would happen when arguing with the retards here about denuvo.
>>722790184Probably not because when people talk about denuvo and modding they say you can't mod the games. The game is about as cracked open as the PSX version was going by what I've read. They just can't make it their total bitch yet, unlike that version.
>>722790435PSX version had multiple tools to extract and inject new sprites, text, assembly hacks for messing with core game mechanics and even an editor program you could tweak a ton of data with.If they can make all that with denuvo then ok. Else we'd have to wait.
>trying to get a pig to spawn so I can start breeding and poaching for ribbonsFuck my life. I didn't know the two pigs I saw in this game were rare.
>>722790435>unlike that version.like that version*
>>722789840why didnt ordallia just take the chance to buttfuck ivalice while they were embroiled in a civil war
>I _NEED_ TO MOD EVERY SINGLE VIDEO GAME I PLAYWhy are modern gamers like this?
>>722791012High IQ gamers have been modding games for like 40 years.
>>722791236Yeah, but it used to be niche shit that very few people actually did. Now literally everyone and their fucking grandma mods and there's literally a modding scene for every single video game, including the most obscure niche shit out there. What the fuck happened?
>>722790435Denuvo specifically blocks out .exe modifications since the exe is the thing that needs to be able to boot for a cracked copy to even persist. It does nothing for hooks and .dll files that exe has to access. If your game has enough external files without everything getting packed into the exe (aka you're most games that aren't a Game Maker thing) and the files can be properly modified because they're not some proprietary bullshit, you can modify the game.FFT:TIC basically uses the Final Fantasy 16 engine, which itself derives from Final Fantasy 14, and those are definitely moddable games. People have opened the assets, see things they can mess with, etc. Big thing about replacing sprite files is that you have the sheets, and palette lists separate of them; it would take cracking the palette list of understanding how it and the color definitions work to fully get sprite and asset replacements going, but once that gets cracked, you can literally just import the PS1/Classic mode stuff or mobile port sprites into the sheers because everything is placed identically.
>>722791398How about changing weapon formulas or scripting an event under denuvo?
>>722791398>Denuvo specifically blocks out .exe modificationsno it doesn't, it obfuscates random code
>>722791378Modding is still hobby and it has being spread widely especially Doom and Sonic series. Here's protip: Most people who made mod project, usually got a job or earn profit of it.
Am i okay to play this as a first time player?
>>722791012>I _WONT_ CHANGE THINGS THAT MAKE GAMES MORE FUNwhy are console plebs like this?
>>722791931If you're lazy or have no need for 50 bucks. I still like the OG with mods better for now.
Father be with me
posted this last thread but since this ones fresh i'll just show it again; from top to bottom 2x PS1/Mobile/Ivalice Chronicles
>>722791931yes, if anything this is probably gonna be the best version to play now
>>722793879what would happen if it was changed to have no pixels, would it looks nice in-game?
These guys don't fuck around
>>722789286Limit abilities scale with MA, so magic-boosting gear.
how the FUCK does stealing work in this shit? I lower Elmdore's BRV to 1, lower his speed to fuck all and I still have 0% chance to steal anything. How the fuck do you negate his shirahadori
>>722788368Is that THE Cidolfus "Thunder God Cid" Orlandeau?!?!
>>722797526No, it's John FinalFantasyTactics
>>722788368I already played on ps1
>>722790959Apparently they were too busy with their own peasant revolts, and just wanted to quit while they were ahead.
>>722790959They were probably waiting for Ivalice military mights to wear themselves down but Ramza stopped both sides from slaughtering each other with the dam, The church killed the heads of both orders, and Delita became king uniting the kingdom.
>>722797414Which version are you playing?
>>722798510this one? chronicles
>>722798676Are you on switch? That one doesn't have the patch to steal Elmdore's gear yet apparently.
>>722798858what? since when? there was an update for switch
>>722788368>Yeah my sister is getting molested by a fat bastard but I'll just look the other wayWhat the FUCK is his problem?
>>722798930That is what i hear about the switch version. On pc my ninja had 12% chance to steal and reducing his bravery 1 made it about 50-60% chance to steal.
>>722799076HOW CAN HE SLAP???
>>722800503>Tactician mode>The two assassin girls can one shot Rafa with UltimaShoulda slapped her harder
I failed the second mission because I didn't see the guy with charm. I need to learn to prioritise targets better.
>>722800503lol
>finally steal all the genji shit>only person that can use it in my team is orlandeau who was already busted anyway
does the PC or PS4 version run at higher res than the Switch version?
>>722788368without nostalgia goggles, this game is truly ASS
>>722804317maybe if youre a faggot retard you'd think that
>>722804317nah nigga, i was skeptical but the new dialogue and voiceover is great, very immersive, the QOL improvements, especially restarting battles and auto-saves for previous turns etc... are great, i'm an oldfag that was playing this shit during PS1 release
WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYONE BETRAY EVERYONE
>>722804317I enjoyed using calculators to break the game 25 years ago, and I enjoy the same thing now. Is there another game that has that kind of functionality in its mechanics? Genuinely asking. I find it enjoyable.
>>722791967Define fun not everyone experiences it the same way just fuck mod it or play either that are available pirate it if you have to.
>>722804894Cause it's based on backstabbing nobles from the war of the roses
>>722805318why not just be chill and beat off to furry babes instead
>>722805345What? Cause there are none in this ivalice game?
We've come a long way since 1998.
>>722804317>without nostalgia gogglesI've never seen anyone say something like this that actually liked something in a way that wasn't deliberately ironic or detached
>>722805446kek
>>722797414Brave doesn’t affect steal rate. It affects reactive abilities like counters (high brave) or treasure rarity (low brave)
>>722805445no wonder everyone's so fucking pissed
>>722805503Ignore this. Misread
>>722797414someone said they patched out the ability to steal genji from elmdor in this demakeDoes he have maintenance or what?
>>722805495not to mention, for something to make people still feel fondly towards it almost 30 years later is not some easy trivial thing. maybe nostalgia is not really an argument for why something is good or not, but "you only like that thing because you remember enjoying it" is a retarded thing to say. i'm not sure why people shit on nostalgia like it's some huge smackdown.
>>722805689>someone said they patched out the ability to steal genji from elmdor in this demakepretty sure they meant to say patched in, like actual day 1 patch
>>722804902for calculator specifically? idk if any other game has a class like that, but if you enjoy absolutely breaking games than disgaea is the obvious pick
>my fellow /v/edditors buyed boughted this shitass remasturdOWARI DA
>>722806035i just watch the new cutscenes for any new dialogue desu
>>722806035it's a good remaster
>>722805083retard
Someone asked last thread about where they could get another excalibur for Agrias. There is one in midlight's deep that you can treasure hunt.>>722805345Silikawoods is on the other side of the continent.>>722805689As >>722805898 i said i was referring to the day 1 patch.
>>722805975Justifiable, but I didn't like how Disgaea literally spoonfeeds grinding to you. I did like La Pucelle at least, and there you had to actually do some kind of mental work to efficiently milk the battles.
anyone know if by any chance the preorder cosmetic will be purchasable down the line?
>>722808390it's literally just a recolor, just wait for mods
>>722806035>implying
Really wish they gave her the full kit of sword saint or at the very least holy sword so she was actually fucking usable. She's cool
>>722810213Definitely in the "I wish you were better so I could actually use you" category with Rafa and Malak.
>>722810213>>722810804She can be decent against human enemies if you give her good PA gear. This is her with Excal+Power Sleeve+Bracers+Attack Boost. Best compatibility with the enemy, but I'm also playing on Tactician. On Normal it would be 630 damage.
>>722788368>Well, anon? what'll it be?Patiently waiting for the Dark Knight DLC or mod.
Oh baby.
>>722810213In all my runs in the PSX version I always gave her the samurai ability as the secondary and spam that shit on things with no equipment. Worked well enough. At least she hits way harder than Agrias.
>>722812074>dark knightIt's in the files btw
>>722793325>had to retry to many times on the roof fight because Rapha would run into the enemies arms and either just die to their basic attack or get an Ultima casted on her that would guarantee killI hate you so much Rapha
>>722814957which is really weird, the game is made in the ff16 engine since almost everything but the sprites had to be made from the ground up basically. so they actually thought of putting it in but decided not too during development.
>>722795265I need to do a monster only playthrough.Is there a mod that starts Ramza with invite/tame?
>>722800503Need a Ramza edit of this after the roof fight.
>>722815037Makes sense. Dark knight is kinda gay. Gallant Knight is based.
>>722815037>since almost everything but the sprites had to be made from the ground up basically.they just ported it over
>>722789286>Cherry BlossomFuck no, Finishing Touch is where it's at.
>>722816417>they just ported it overthey didn't, the only things that are straight ports are the sprites, most of everything else is made in the ff16 engine (which is why modders have been able to open the game so quickly because they are just using ff16 mod tools). there's a reason there are 2 separate exe's for TIC and the ps1 version that comes with it
>>722817903>the only things that are straight ports are the spritesThis >>722793879 doesn't look a like a direct port.
>>722790435is this version even worth a shit when we have the PSX one?
>>722818014only for voice acting
>>722788368Refuse this piece of shit.Win your battles by your own merit.
>>722818013the sprites are a weird one, TECHNICALLY they are the same sprite as in they literally just ported the mobile sprites to use as a baseline, but they touched the mobile sprites up to look more like the original ps1 sprites, so technically they are also new sprites as well.
>>722789840where is rabanastre
>>722818014voice acting, job rebalance, hard mode, fast forwarding, the visuals if you like the painted look, new dialogue only available to this game, better menuing. and if you care about modding this will probably be explored a lot.
>>722818135fakeff12 sucks
>>722818134When they finally try and do a 1:1 remaster even if botched, people complain they cut extra stuff. Including me.RIP Black Knight, your grind will be missed, Agrias' turbo lipstick, too
>>722818220So they only did it for 12?Ordalia is a thing too in 12, so I thought they kept names more or less the same in both games.
>>722818202>job rebalance, hard mode, fast forwarding, the visuals if you like the painted look, new dialogue only available to this game, better menuing. and if you care about modding this will probably be explored a lot.all of this is irrelevant because you can mod and emulate the other versionit's just VA
>>722818281It just so happens they modded the original, added VA and charged $50 (you get Denuvo for free)
>>722818225if they do end up adding dark knight and onion knight later, i just hope they actually balance it into the game instead of how wotl shoehorned it. onion knight isn't even worth getting at all
>>722818361t-thanks
>>722818371The best excuse for BK was that Ramza could have his own pew pew magick knight class others get, including his brothers.Not that he really needs it with Uber Squire, but still.
>>722818546It's actually called Gallant Knight in IC now. Just checked.
>>722818202>better menuingEh, I disagree. Inventory sorting is ass and so is unequipping units
After all these years I still think it's dumb that samurai don't get innate doublehand like ninjas get their dual wield equivalent. The job is already so ass as a primary job, plus by the time you unlock it, just hitting someone with the vanilla attack command is way powercreeped by a ton of other things anyway.
This is still one of the best videogames ever made. Incredible story and gameplay. I look forward to every battle just to level my dudes and work on their builds. It's just fun.
>>722815296No mods for this yet cuz Denuvo but mediator only needs level 3 white mage level 3 orator so it’s easy to grind out in like 20 minutes or whatever
I just saw funny meme about the JP dub of FFT, please bear with my ESL explanation.Basically, they dubbed the Holy Knight's northswain strike chant wrongThe Kanji死兆の星の、七つの影の経路を断つ! 北斗骨砕打!The correct version = 経路 read as Keirakushi cho no hoshi no, nanatsu no kage no keiraku o tatsu(Something like : Let the star of death cut the meridian of the seven shadow)The wrongly dubbed version = 経路 read as Keiroshi cho no hoshi no, nanatsu no kage no keiro o tatsu(Something like : Let the star of death cut the pathway of the seven shadow)The punchline is picrel, where the northswain strike (北斗骨砕打) is cutting through a pathwayYou can hear the correct version of the chant in FF14https://youtu.be/lC2J0rejKOo?t=48
>>722808532I'm assuming that guy is on console because you should already know on PC you can unlock all the DLC since it's already in the game files
>>722820858I don't get it. It's not clear how Keiraku vs Keiro changes the meaning into a funny one.
>>722821587It's not Keiraku(meridian) as in geography, but meridian as in the pathway of human life force.So the original one is about an attack that cut through your life. The keiro one is about a literal path.
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>>722822217I get 経絡 for meridian also, not 経路. Maybe they changed it in the script.
>>722791012because modern games are released and designed to run like shit, why are you confused about this?
>>722822253One of my favourite generics is a knight with equip gun. Being able to rend items or stats from range with a base attack that bypasses evasion is really fun.Guns don't scale off PA or MA so you wear high hp armor without feeling like you're losing out on damage. There's kaiser shield that both gives evasion and buffs the damage of elemental guns. They don't need mp or mobility so you can run mana shield and manafont together for a really annoying unit that's almost unkillable.
>>722822217http://ogrewebbook.web.fc2.com/ivalice/fft/job/holy.htmI think the mistake comes from the script. They mentioned how they lost the code so maybe they recreated the script from fansites using a different Kanji
>>722824363Based
>>722824363What's more, magic guns have really good Weapon Power because it's supposed to substitute the spell power number. But the equipment break abilities only look at WP so magic guns end up being really good at breaking things.
>>722822356Yeah that's what Japs are laughing about. The dub isn't wrong, the script itself was changed from 経絡 to 経路.
Whose voice acting did you like the most?
>>722826004JP Alma and JP Milleuda
>>722826414JP Milleuda is fucking based and I do adore Saori Hayami too.
>>722826458First time I played with JP voices in general and I prefer it. Screaming at each other when you are about to strike each other down puts me in a better headspace for the story. I still like the English script but it's just different.
>>722826696Milleuda laughing faintly when she said 'Don't make me laugh' actually made me emotional. You can hear the sheer defeat in her tone in spite of everything and it's heart-rending that you can never save her.
>>722826458I mostly know her from voicing Yotsugi. That's such an iconic role I could see them putting an Easter egg where there is an unlock-able monotone Alma voice track. I'd straight laugh hearing "Ramza-niisan, peace peace".
i seriously can't believe they nailed both the jp AND the eng voice acting
>>722827279i'm so fucking tired of the british voice actors meme, every modern game is the same gay shit
>>722827279What's everyone's favorite scene now that there's voice acting?
>>722827279eng dub sucks if you have taste
>>722827390It's a great fit for the setting
>>722827279i dont understand why they got meme actors instead of actual theatre actors that can act.
>>722791012>I HATE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE FUNwhy are console gamers like this?
>>722827486Careful, this applies to JP as well.
>>722827430i'm not a tranny weeb though so dubs are fine for me
>>722827486I don't think it's entirely the actor's fault. Generic soldiers in Japanese after running to inform their commander actually sound out of breath. In English they are calm as a cucumber.
>>722788368I’ve never played the original, any beginner tips for an amateur? I’m gonna pick this up after I wrap up Hades II.
>>722828710don't overlevel, game's only problem is that it's too easy, they give so many options to break it up and down it's just fun to find out yourself how to break it
>>722828710You don't have to learn every little mechanic if you're not that kind of player. Just read what the abilities do and pay attention to how taking turns works in general.Outside of that. depending on what version you play different tips will apply (like keeping a separate savefiles for the PS1 version)
How does CT work?
>>722829750>Gain (speed) CT per “tick”>when at 100 CT you get a turn>if you move and take an action on your turn it goes back to 0>if you wait without doing anything less gets used>if you only move or take an action a little less gets usedDon’t know exact numbers on the half turns though. Spells have their own speeds, so like a spell with 25 speed takes 4 ticks to cast
>>722829750Basically time passes in clockticks in FFT.Each clocktick a unit's Speed stat is added to their CT score and when this score reaches or exceeds 100, the unit takes its turn.If you move and act during your turn then you are left with 0/100 CT to start counting for your next turn.If you only move or only act then you are left with 20/100 CT.If you do neither and pass your turn then you are left with 40/100 CT.This is the tl;dr version.
I don't get why Delacroix didn't just wait for Mustadio to bring back the Zodiac Stone?
>>722830098>>722830194Thanks
>>722830207Because he's evil, silly.
>>722830489Evil and stupid? You tell the gang to not only jump the dude who's willingly going to bring you what you want but also tell the same dude your working together?
>>722830207Because he is bald
>>722830554>Evil and stupid?Yes
Jokes aside there are a lot of dumb contrivances in the FFT plot>Delita shows up claiming to be the last survivor of a knights order with a prisoner>has a prisoner claim one of the nobles in attendance is a traitor with no other evidence (he could have easily tortured him to give a false confession)>executes the guy on the spot with no further investigation, nobody intervenes despite Delia being a fucking commoner
>>722830920I'm in chapter 3 now, and beat it a few times since the original PS1 version came out. And in an otherwise fairly well written game this logical fallacy really sticks out to me.
>>722831238Wasn't he posing as a noble? They questioned not being familiar with any noble Heiral family. FFT does have a lot of weak points under scrutiny but it gets the point across
>>722831238I'm still confused about that myself. Like was he really part of that knight order (would explain why he went from a squire to knowing holy sword skills i guess). Was he just making shit up knowing there'd be no one alive to contradict him, and goltanna just bought it? Was the prisoner real or just another church plant there to help him sell his story?The story chronicle seems to imply he really was part of that order of knights (he could've still been planted in there by the church i guess, maybe they pulled strings for him to get in), but i'm not sure if its supposed to be a real 4th wall true account of happenings or limited to what passes as canon history in-universe.
>>722832460>or just another church plant there to help him sell his story?Desu if something's confusing you can probably say the church did it and 9 times out of 10 it would work fine
>>722832923If making Delita's side of the story in the game is too much, I'd like to at least see a manga assuming they do plan on making a sequel.
So looking back in retrospect, are Dycedarg and Delita meant to slightly parallel with each other? They're both scheming backstabbing frauds who kill their respective dukes on their own sides as they try to climb the ranks for power, but I don't know where to go from there
>>722797526TG Cid. Transgender Cid.
>>722827407Argath is somehow both more based and annoying at the same time
>>722835081I always thought that he made good points even if he was a complete dick, and the voice acting makes it even more effective.
>M-MUH POORS>M-MUH WOMEN WARRIORS>M-MUH CHURCH IS EVIL>M-MUH FASCISM IS WRONG AKSHUALLY>prancing homofaggot ye olde English thee thy thou How can ANYONE play this fuckass woke garbage game?
>>722831627He was already being manipulated by the storm and losing his marbles.
>>722835194>the voice acting makes it even more effective.i've been pleasantly surprised by the english voice acting, the original plot requires tons of reading but the voice acting somehow piques interest more naturally
>>722835410Yeah, they made good promise on revising the script so it sounds natural when it's acted.
>>722835276You are not among friends, pretender.
>>722827407>What's everyone's favorite scene now that there's voice acting?If battle dialogue counts then probably this onehttps://youtu.be/LKmFCXnQjBU?si=SalEI9VSd5ry4NTk&t=48372
>>722835276the story does kind of suck now that I'm old and miserable. i just like the demonic stuff. i just find these stories a little too subversive.
>>722835536We must always be mindful what is good for The Party, comrade.
>>722835276>M-MUH FASCISM IS WRONG AKSHUALLYYou turdworlders can't even describe what you think fascism is
>>722835276You are poorYou are homosexualYou are a cultistYou are the actual target of fascismYou talk like a fag and your shit's all retardedI am sorry for your loss.
God no, it was a comfy thread
>mfw voiced Ramza is an even bigger twink in the remake
The infamous Wiegraf fight is funny to me cause it makes me realize that the Holy Sword abilities are really stacked>Judgment Blade can inflict Stop>Northswain's Strike can inflict instant KO>Etc.The devs clearly made him use only Hallowed Bolt because it's the only status (Silence) that doesn't instarape you, and even that's if you're going in physical and not magical
>>722836053>"Draw your sword, Ramza">gets instantly punched in the mouth twice by Lv60 Monk Ramza with dual wield and 20 AP
>>722835971I love him even more now because it shows how giga based he is.
>>722836053in general i like the QOL and voice acting, but really hoping that modders will make the combat and progression mechanics better, they also need to get rid of Denuvo, doesn't that shit cost SE in licensing fees?
>>722836228>"Draw your sword, Ramza">*Cocks gun*
i cannot follow the stories in these kinds of games. all i gathered is that you're a highborn bastard and one of your brothers is a bad guy. a bunch of houses are fighting, the church is corrupt and wants some demon orbs, and your best friend is a lowborn whose arc i lost track of
>>722836795YOU GOT IT!
>>722836795Also the entire plot is in the lore tab, it shows who's alive, what they've been up to, and their current locations.
>>722836795is it ever confirmed that Ramza is a bastard? it seemed like his dad had a second wife after the first died or something, is Alma a half sister or full sister?
>>722836947Ramza is the only bastard so half sister. And yeah Ramza is very explicitly a bastard and everyone knows it
>>722836947dunno if it's confirmed per se but his brothers always mention it. i assumed alma was his half sister
Seems like among the named characters we know the signs of, some are way more common than others.
>>722836947Yes, and Alma is his full sister (Same mother).
this game needs a fast forward toggle, more graphical options and semi transparency or a free camera. other than that the game is slick and probably the best srpg I've played.
>>722810804at least she has new dialogue in the last couple of stages, the siblings had none after their recruitment
>>722837278Virgos and Geminis everywhere
>>722837443why the fuck did they not include a free camera? or at least allow free range between a limited set of vertical degrees
>>722836947It was confirmed in the psx game. Draclau says it:- Inside Lionel Castle -------------------------Draclau: Gafgarion is not as good as he says... Or was it bad luck? Anyhow, you're good. You have Beoulve blood in your veins. Even if you are a bastard.
>>722838291based Gaffy never missing an opportunity to talk shit and truthpill
>>722836947The cardinal confirms it, in the PSX version, he calls you a bastard outright, in the WotL translation, he says you're still a Beoulve, even when your blood has been thinned with that of a courtesan (ie, a whore)
>>722838626I'll always find it funny that a canonical part of Barbaneth's character is that even roughly middle-aged he just had to get some more pussy, nobility be damned
I'm gonna need some kind of script dump, feels like borderline everyone is dropping lore bombs in this remaster
>>722788368Maybe I played much tor, but I don't like fft that much anymore.Is anyone playing classic?
>>722839445>lore bombsIt's just trying to cover up holes but appreciated I guess. I stopped caring that much ages ago.
Huh. Is the VA for Cloud here the same as the VA in the FF7 Remakes?
>>722788368Is there any woke shit?
>>722839915Yeah, you get to recruit 2 brown people teehee
>>722839915yes
>>722839915men can wear perfume, my pearls are being clutched
>>722839915no
>>722839915Gaffgarion is a bigot now
>>722839915NoGame is for Milksop Churls, stay away
>>722839915woke as absolute fuck, the game is all about classism and how the ruling class is bad
>>722838626Alma and Ramza's mom was a commoner so most nobles don't see the difference between him and a bastard.
>>722841308I think it's more likely he doesn't actually give a shit and just wanted to rattle my wife specifically.
DRAW YOUR SWORD, GRINDSCHIZO.
>rush Bard>unlock movement+3Imagine being a womanThis post brought to you by penis gang
>>722843481>We wanted to preserve the original>Move+3>Septième>RibbonThanks, I hate it.
>>722843025*punches twice*
>>722841619Milkslop churros
How do I stop mustadio from charging into his death on his first mission?
I've beat final fantasy tactics more than anyone here, around 40+ times. I just beat the Ivalice Chronicles about 15 mins agoMy thoughts are it was good but the censorship on some stuff and ways to change small things to make it seem less adult-like was not well done. I would have preferred holy stones instead of auracite, god instead of father.The people who remade this game Ivalice Chronicles did it as a tribute to the people who did the war of the lions / PSP remake. The people who did that PSP version created it with this grand square-enix vision in mind to put FF11-FF15 all in the same universe with the same words / characters / gods. That's why they remade words from holy stones to auracite, not because it was more faithful to the original idea or something.After ff15 they scrapped that whole idea and are now back to doing unique worlds. So basically these guys did a tribute to a remade version of final fantasy tactics which is to be in this all-encompassing universe which Square-enix is no longer interested in since it didn't do well. Whether the people doing the tribute knew as much or in depth about this history as me who knows. I think a more mature story would have individual names and characters like Velius from the PS1 version, instead of trying to tie it into multiple games renaming him Belias the Gigas.Some final thoughts are it seems they weren't able to do cutscenes after battles finished like the PS1 version, and certain things like Riovanes Castle doors opening / Floodgates opening / Magic circle at the end of the game were not shown off as well as the originals. Some of the sounds like for Shiva, Thunder, and others didn't have the same exact crunch / sound that the original PS1 version had.It's a great version, but it's missing some small stuff. I guess it can't be helped since every remaster seems to lose small details along the way.
>>722843825Cast stop :^)
>>722843932I found the Father thing weird because Delacroix talks about the God of Light.
>>722788368>Well, anon? what'll it be?
>>722843932There are a lot of tiny things missing. Lucavi don't go "moooo" after they explode now as well.
Something that bothered me about the story is how zalbaag immediately jumps to the conclusion that dycedarg posioned their dad due to the fungus he found at the grave and dycedarg could have easily just said it was someone else that did it as no one had actual proof it was him.Like why the fuck did he not deny it it's not like anyone has actual fucking PROOF he was poisoning barbaneth up until his eventual death due to mushroom aids. Other than "dycedarg knows how to make poisons" there's literally no evidence that he's the one that did the poisoning yet everyone just immediately jumps to that conclusion with fuck all proof. Wtf
>>722844210>Lucavi don't go "moooo" after they explode now as well.dropped
>>722843481>>722843694>men can now wear all of the formerly female-only equipment, which was some of the best in the game>Dark Knight--the only way women could get Move+3--deliberately excised from the game due to petulant Japanese autismIt's actually hilarious how bad chicks got screwed over by this version.
>>722844210I always found that strange sound to be very ominous.
>>722844356The poison works over a long period of exposure because it never leaves the body like microplastics. It had to be someone close amd with a motive. Lots of things had started accumulating against Dycedarg's character especially after witnessing him murdering Larg for his own ambitions.
>>722844623Still no 100% proof it was dycedarg. Just weird that everyone jumps to conclusions
>>722844525It was great, very eerie. Them transforming into demons has spirits laughing and that was like them leaving the earth.
>>722818135More to the right, next to Ordalia
>>722844725What do you want, dna samples?
>>722845093and 4k drone footage of him poisoning the food yeah
>>722814967I was lucky I had a save before those fights because I couldn't save her with my existing team comp. Had to grind up a couple dudes to be ninjas so they were fast enough and had enough reach to force one of the assassins to critical.
>>722844356He does deny it and never said he did it until after he transforms, but I don't think Zalbaag cares at that point Zalbaag has lost every single member of his family except Dycedarg. 2 are supposed to be heretics / traitors and 1 your dad was maybe poisoned by your brother. Maybe losing everyone he had around him made him second-think it, who knows. Im not sure if he ever cared about Delita or Tietra, but I'm sure it was on his mind since Delita became an opposing faction leader / captain. There's no way he just wouldn't know.But yeah who knows really
>>722788368is it true that Simon Templeman voices Orlandu?
>>722818371Onion Knight is basically a joke class anyways so I think it's fine as-is.
>>722845201It is not. Timothy Watson is the VA.
>>722845201Isn't it Timothy Watson? The guy who voiced his 'cameo' if you can call it that in XIV.
Why do they dump this extremely overpowered character on you not even halfway through the game?Why is he so powerful?Why does he get so many movesets?Is he really a "thunder God"?He is more powerful than the dragon that you get later.
>>722845334same dude who does the alliance raid voice? I'm down for that.
>>722788368>virgowhat a fag
>>722845384>halfwayEvery time I play FFT I feel like everything after Wiegraf just flies by for some reason, like I’m just going through the motions.
>>722845384Because that's the point they start throwing crazier fights at you. He was a top general on the 50 years war, on par with Balbanes.He is a sword master, second only to the top guy who died. It is a moniker given to him for being a destructive force of nature on the battlefield. Dragons aren't too strong in FFT overall anyway.
>>722845384It's a meta lesson to teach you that you have to make your own difficulty in this game.
>>722845592Wiegarf is the peak of FFT really, everything after "Draw your sword" just feels like a blur
>>722845384>Why do they dump this extremely overpowered character on you not even halfway through the game?youre way past the mid point when you get him and hes not overpowered anymore>Why is he so powerful?he has a super job that combines all other special swordsman jobs>Why does he get so many movesets?see previous>Is he really a "thunder God"?silly nickname he got for being so strong>He is more powerful than the dragon that you get later.reis? everyone is stronger that reis
>>722845384Gigachad just happened to be passing through
>>722845669Truly peak.
>>722839701>>722843932Did you play or do you intend to play classic? Really curios if someone's buys it to play classic and skip ivalice chronicles.>less adult likeReally? To set the tone for a young target group eg ffta?
>>722846948Anon in a previous thread was playing it and commented how there is no speed up option.
>>722847049that's weird because tactics ogre and ffxii have it
>>722845384>overpowered characteroverpowered *sword*his job is good but the sword is the real deal
>>722789584>>MUH DENUVOnobody cares, faggot. Stfu
>>722847550Chill shill
>>722847462Why does he get that overpowered sword?Did he go to the Deep Dungeon too?
>>722788368What is the consensus on the rewriting of the script? It's been a long time since I played the original, but I have fond memories of it.
Delita is more of a cunt than I remember, Ovelia was right to stab him
>>722849680always has been. He used Ramza to clean up the church shit so he didn't have to.
>what are you gonna do? stab me?-quote from man stabbed
>>722847049Ye, these games are slow af.>>722847235Doesn't help all too much unfortunately.>>722850127Billions of such cases
>Tactics Ogre Remastered>FFT Ivalice Chronicles>Triangle StrategyI am inexperienced in this genre but have access to all of these in one way or another. How would people rank these 3?
>>722843932did you play on tactician or knight? i've heard that for OG fags like you the tactician way of increasing difficulty by simply turning enemies into HP sponges was not great
>>722850702you just did
>>722848036Strict upgrade on both the Engrish bullshit of PSX and WoTL faux Shakespeare, only “problems” you’ll find are autistic nitpicks like everyone using Father instead of God
so if everyone can equip chantage, doesnt that make your team invincible? what am i missing?
>>722850702FFT TOUnicorn Overlord Disgaea 7 or 8 whichever they're on nowGoing outside Triangle Strategy
>>722851140Uhhh you could still get a game over via petrification, vampire or everyone dying at the same time in an AoE, but yeah
>>722851140It more or less does, unless you somehow get entirely wiped out in one turn. You could get hit by stuff like petrify which takes you out of the fight indefinitely too (though a ribbon which is just as popular trivializes that too).It's not hard to break the game in general so that's one among multitudes of op things. It comes down to what flavour of busted you prefer and how you make your own fun.
>>722850702Absolute the only way to look at these. Fft is awesome, but tactics ogre is superior, especially reborn or psp. One vision mod for tactics ogre has people clock 2500h in.
>>722850895I beat it on tactician. Enemies near the end had around double the HP they previously had. I think they did more damage too and almost everything 1 shot me at the end.But most bosses could either be hit by don't act or don't move, and then with angel rings everyone would get reraise at the beginning of battle. Killing bosses became more about how many phoenix down's I had to juggle my whole team around since they couldn't kill everyone. In the final level's or point of no return I spent about 50 phoenix downs bringing people back to life over and over from 1-shottable moves.I had to don't act the 2nd to final boss and then have Alma give everyone on my team aegis or her special buff. Then I had to don't act the final boss and with golem up I used lich over and over on the final bosses for 999 dmg. The final boss did a loop of attacking and having it absorbed by golem or casting dispelja on 2 of my team-members while alma constantly cast aegis on everyone. I had 2 monks with equip heavy armor that used chakra to give her MP back at the previous part while Ultima was don't acted (hot form).Basically the final bosses / parts were a pain in the ass with no Orlandu, no calculator. I used Agrias and Mustadio because they had unique lines, and I think all special characters might have special lines during the final fight with Vormav. I'm not going to level them all up to hear the lines though. The demons in the final area used Almagest which did 500-700 dmg aoe instantly, which 1-shot everyone I had. The only reason they didn't do it was because I would run up to them and the AI didn't want to almagest itself. Getting a bunch of confusions and disables helped me pass areas I should have died. And I was very underleveled and tried not to grind too, but it would have been fine in a normal playthrough where the enemies had 400ish HP instead of 700-800.
>>722791012We've played this game before, anon.
>DENUVOthat's a hard skip, i'd rather own my games
>>722841619*sups on broth of bean*
>>722852567>DENUVOIt's a ps1 game, just download the ps1 iso and emulate it
>>722852283>playthrough where the enemies had 400ish HP instead of 700-800.i think imma stick to knight, i want to try a straight character challenge or not use any secondary job capabilities
>>722852283>almost everything 1 shot me at the end.How's that fun? Is tactician available on classic, too?>everything nearly one shots meThat was the case when I played it the first time. Maybe I sucked at the game back then?>>722852283>I used Agrias and Mustadio because they(...) Idc didn't beat the game
>>722851609To add to this anons postPoach breeding in general is kinda guidefag shit, you WILL break the game in half doing it because it’s meant to sell strategy guides
>>722845163I thought of Zalbag as Ramza if he had stayed behind. Their dad was said to be the highest ranking ass-kicker in the world and was an incredibly good man and basically all the children were good except Dycedarg.At some point Zalbag must have thought that he's good, Ramza and Alma were obviously good despite being heretics, and the outlier was actually Dycedarg. I can't remember clearly but Ramza did meet Zalbag late into the game and obviously there were gameplay limitations but Zalbag would have seen who Ramza was travelling with - and it turned out to be the noblest members he could know: all of princess's bodyguards, the second-ranked ass-kicker in the world, and a Temple Knight who can only be assumed to be decent to be following Ramza given all of the others were just assholes.Then Zalbag looks at his side and it's the Marquis and a whole pile of nobles who are shitters, including his eldest brother. And then Ramza tells Zalbag that everyone's a fucker and well, maybe Ramza is right because everyone IS a fucker. Ramza's travelling with your dad's old sparring buddy I mean if that doesn't shock you to reevaluate things I don't know what does.
>>722853376Poach breeding isn't hard to stumble upon at all. Specific item-find tiles now that's guide crap.
>>722791931Yes but play either the gameboy game next or vagrant story
Increased Agrias porn on my xwitter timeline the game is a success already
>>722791775What mod project?
>>722788368Just finished chapter 2, I've gotten addicted to this game again. I played WotL back in it's day but I forgot how much I liked FFT. I'm using the JP voice acting and I think it's really adding to the story. Also playing on tactician mode.
>>722853463Marquis was a good person before Duke Goltanna invaded Limberry and killed him.
>Loffrey now thinks Folmarv is the 2nd coming of Ajora (even though he's more like 2nd-in-command of the Lucavi)So does that make Folmarv the Antichrist of FFT?
>>722851070>Father instead of Godisn't that essentially the same?
so what's different about the archers in Ivalice? is Aim+10 and 20 even viable or still unusable because of crazy long charge time like in the OG?
>>722835524You know, I like that they gave Agrias more battle dialogue beyond when she stops being a guest.
>>722854284Vs is awesome, but the menu juggling is anything but fun.
>>722857428I thought the writing is worse in the chronicles edition.Are there other srpg like tactics? Maybe some that aren't nearly half a century old. Couldn't get into wartales or battle brothers.
>>722858367it's really just fft and tactics ogre
I think Im playing this game wrong. Im on normal difficulty, no real issue so far. But I just got to the Argath boss fight on the mountain and he’s 6 levels ahead of me. Is that normal, or should I be grinding?
>>722844356Did you forget that Larg straight up snitches on Dycedarg before he dies?
>>722845384>Why do they dump this extremely overpowered character on you not even halfway through the game?What are you talking about? You get him halfway through Chapter 4 when you're basically 80% through the game.
>>722845671Human Reis is pretty dang good
>>722788368Did they actually add new content like I thought they'd said? Is it good / worth a playthrough?
>>722859368they didnt add any new contentit is worth a playthrough because of the full voice acting
>>722858986does he?
>Well fought, Ramza, well fought... a fool though you are, I could never bring myself to dislike you...RIP my man Gaffgarion, would've loved having you on my team
>>722847550what a retard
>>722850702Triangle Strategy is the best, but it has zero nostalgia points and starts poorly which puts people off. If it were released in 1997 it'd be revered. TS is both more balanced and more challenging (on NG+) than those two, it has classes which are unique and varied so you can't just spam the same overpowered stuff. It fixes the FFT JP/EXP problem more elegantly than by the TO Remaster. The characters actually develop over the game rather than stopping as soon as they join you. Lots of other stuff like more meaningful multiple routes, environmental effects, etc.
What class rebalance stuff did they do outside of "teleport is 3k jp lmao"
>>722861817I am really starving for a good tactics game and it's on Snoy station, so I might pull the trigger. Has anyone tried banner saga?I've read that TS has plenty of pointless dialogue and the units quip constantly stupid one liners during battle. Of course not skippable.
>>722862060Just reducing charge time on some abilities.
reposting this in this thread because the other thread died immediately after asking What should my team be this time for my first run at Ivalice Chronicles? Last I played I ran>Ramza Dual Wielding Knight (with shout skills of course) with Excalibur and Save The Queen>Agrias as a Knight with her holy sword skills and auto potion>Generic Male Summoner Black Mage, all in on offensive magic skills>Generic female ninja with blade grasp and steal>Generic Female White Mage/Time Mage with a gunThis time I might make Ramza a lancer with two handed and aim just stabbing the shit outta people, but I'm thinking I might use a party of exclusively named characters for the new dialogue.
>>722862440Try making a proper Calculator spellcaster. They are a riot when played right.
>>722862096banner saga is fun, but a different game entirely. fell seal is close, but kind of janky
>>722862096Bastard Bonds is pretty good. or so I'm told.
>>722862497Calculator Ramza is a war crime machine
>>722862440Will be difficult with only a single character with real healing skills. Realistically, Summoner/Black Mage is redundant, especially with lowered cast times. If you're making a male summoner, you might as well give him Monk as a secondary to take advantage of male PA for chakra's MP restoration and revive. Similarly I would consider leaving the ninja's secondary as a flex slot with chemist/monk/white magic as needed.
>>722863753that isn't what my squad is gonna be this time, that is what it was last time and it worked out just fine. turns out you don't need healing or revives if you just kill everything really quickly
>>722863849Just run all oracles and Beowulf.
>>722862440Poach or steal a defender for ramza and give agrias Excalibur because it boosts the damage of her sword skills
>>722864003True, I was gonna give Ramza spears this time around anyway but if I run Cid I'll probably let him keep Excalibur, giving Agrias Defender/Save the Queen instead
>>722850127She didn't stab him and Delita letting her live despite being a spy/assassin is one of the biggest hints he's not "le ebil manibulator" retards make him out to be.
>>722788368This game filtered me. I am too smooth brain for it.
>>722864302She didn't
what the FUCK is with these ultima demons casting almagest, it does over 500 damage to any of my units and 1 shots everyone, ramza and cid included.What the fuck
>>722864404It's just a regular 4 niggas in a row FF but with the extra command to move on a grid man
>>722864482Isn't that just damage based on how much HP they have lost?
Reminder to not sleep on Darkness, Silence and Berserk. They are status effects with an infinite duration.
>>722864840No? I have people at full health getting 1 shot
>>722850702 #>FFTPersonal favorite game of all time so it's unfair>Triange strategySuffers from pacing issues but I loved the game overall. Wish there was a little more variance in the routing where as it kinda feels like a lot of choices aren't as impactful to the grand scheme, but still great fun>Tactics ogreGame is great when you aren't actually playing it. The gameplay in LUCT was so God damn bad lol, imbalanced and way too easy to break but not in a fun way like final fantasy tactics, the brokenclasses trivialize everything while the mediocre classes dont feel satisfying to use at all with a horrificcrafting system to boot. Least fun TRPG I've played next to fire emblem revelations. I will have to give the more recent rerelease a try because the story, characters, and music are all good
>>722866474Demon's missing HP anon...A classic FF "Lifebreak" sort of attack.
>>722866636Well, shit. Just ignore the demons and mog Ultima I guess?
>>722866679Or focus them down one by one and don't spread damage. Status effects are also valuable.
>>722865680>reminder to not sleepSpam sleep it’s OP
>>722864302Selective mercy is absolutely something a manipulator would use. They can't do what you want them to do if they're dead.
What's the best subjob for orlandeau? His sword skills are so op it feels almost pointless spending his turn doing anything else. There's item/martial arts on the off-chance you want to revive someone, but that's kinda lame. The only thing i can imagine a niche use for is geomancy for a little extra reach, since it outranges most of his skills by 1 tile - but if you can't reach something you could just wait instead and get the CT refund.
>>722867809Gets even better later when the duration translates to more and more turns although slow to cast. But people underestimate the infinite duration and fast casting speed on the basic blind/silence.
>>722869086Samurai for occasional heal or buff
>>722869086Anything. He's a sword skill spambot. I've never used named characters outside my first playthrough because of the little variety incentive
>>722869086Could go some flavor of spellcaster considering he has the MP steal, like Time Mage/Oracle for debuffs/ailments
>>722862060they made statuses better
Zalbaag's EN voice actor really killed it when you fight him in the catacombs. Really made it sound like he was in literal hell.
Woah....such a thought provoking sentence...
So faggots, spill the beans. Is the soundtrack any different from the original? I'm expecting the songs themselves to be the same, but is it an arranged orchestrated remake? Higher quality synth samples? Unchanged?
>>722791398You have no idea what you’re talking about
>>722869315How?
>>722869602Seems to be unchanged
>>722869712pretty sure they buffed the chances of them actually going off not significantly, which is also why it seems to be easier to break weapons including enemies breaking yours.
>>722869796>going off significantly*this also makes mystic a lot stronger now
>>722869086Martial Arts for chakra/purifyIaido for buffs or heals, but his MA will not likely be good enough for serious damageItem is my pick, since he's a juggernaut, and if the rest of the team is fucked he's going to be the one left alive to save them from crystallizing
>>722869796I doubt it but i'll wait for definite proof. maybe it's just placebo from getting rid of the Worst compatibility and switching it to Good between all humans
>>722869537Wasn't it zalbaag that goaded them into leaving to rescue the marquis anyway? What was up with that? At this point dycedarg hasn't shown his true colours yet so you'd think the two of them would be on the same wavelength. He was going on about how guarding the castle was super boring and basically hinting super hard that they should go. Obviously ramza's too upstanding to mention that as an excuse to get out of trouble here, but i'm just wondering if zalbaag had some motive to act as he did - or if it really was just an offhand comment they happened to take seriously.
>>722870034Zalbaag just likes Ramza so he was giving him an actual job to do instead of having him jerk off in the castle
>>722870034Zaalbag always seemed like more of the meathead brother compared to Dycedarg. I think he genuinely offered Ramza something to do thinking what he would have liked when he was his age.
>OG - Beowulf and Reis' story just kind of stops.>WoTL - Beowulf and Reis get a new questline that completes their story>IC - Bring Beowulf and Reis to the Vormarv fight and you get the cliff notes version of the wotl questlineok, that's a funny way to handle it.
>>722870034I always interpreted it as foreshadowing that Zalbaag is closer to Ramza in temperament than Dycedarg, who's way more machiavellian
I have made an end game party of objectively the cutest girlsAgrias Female White Mage (with equip gun)Female ArcherFemale Geomancer
>>722870404>No monk or mysticwth
>>722870404>no female mimic
Wiegraf sounds so much surlier than I imagined, dude sounds like he should be running a pirate ship
>>722870543Mystic Monk and Time Mage were close contenders. White Mage and Geomancer are non negotiable
>>722831238Things tend to work differently in times and settings where modern real world court and evidence systems don't exist.
>>722831238I like to believe they overlooked it because that fuck got results. Just like how Orlandu could say some shit without immediately being sent to the Gallows
>>722869537supremely hypocritical considering his two kidnapping/murder plots
>>722870034Dycedarg was just mad because Gustav's plot to kidnap Elmdore was actually his own idea, and Ramza's interference risked derailing his and Larg's plans. The "lawmakers must abide by laws" spiel was just to try to keep Ramza in line in the future. Obviously Dycedarg is a hypocrite, that's the point.
>keenly remember that Argath was revived as part of the lucavi lackeys at one point and you kick his ass>literally going schizo when it doesn't ever happen>what the fuck I know this is real>look it up>UMMM SORRY BRO CUT CONTENT BECAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY WOTL :^)))))Fuck OFF with this lazy bullshit. I am 100% convinced this whole "we're trying to be faithful is to the original PSX FFT" is lazy horseshit just meant to cut corners and put less content in the game. Fuck you SE
>>722870034Along with what others have already said Zalbaag's sort of opposite of Dycedarg, cares about the family and is too naive to actually be any sort of threat until it's far too late.>>722831238It's mentioned when Valmafra first shows up that the church has people supporting him, he isn't flying solo.
>>722871798Probably the only part I'm glad is missing.
>>722871798I consider that a rather stupid part of WOTL, however. Why the fuck would they revive some minor squire from a minor footnote battle in history?
>>722871901so you can kick his shit in again
>>722871798wotl content is literally the most shoehorned fucking bullshit imaginable and the jobs don't even work nor are they worth the effort to acquire.
>>722871991>optional stuff bad>zero nuance, everything badBrainrot
>>722871991>and the jobs don't even work nor are they worth the effort to acquire.It's all about aesthetic my lad
>>722872172nta but nuance is what lets people recognize the jobs don't really matter, zero nuance is going>uh but less jobs=BAD
>>722872172you are the one with 0 nuance, your entire thought process is more stuff = good despite the stuff just being bad content that is at best bad and worst literally broken. and it's not like they didn't even try to put the jobs in. dark knight is already in the game files with flags and everything. they clearly wanted to see if they could make it work but just decided it would be better to not include it.
Is there actually a full list of WoTL content? I want to make my own arbitrary ranking of what I miss and what I could live without
>>722871991Well I'd appreciate being able to make that conclusion myself, because they could add the content and I could ignore it if I so choose.
>>722872626>Well I'd appreciate being able to make that conclusion myselfyou can literally do this by playing wotl
>>722872501They are so optional it's only a bonus. You are arguing that an extra graphical setting or option is bad.
>>722872459Where were these heartless in kingdom hearts?
>>722872562>Dev diaries fanfiction
>>722872653>uh but less options=bad:)
>>722872652I want to do it in the new release with all the content, not these hack jobs square enix keeps doing.
>>722788368You're trapped in the world of Street Fighter 3. The third chapter so what's it going to be?
>>722872723Your strawman is not an argument
>>722872750i learn unblockable setups from urien
>>722872569just wait until modders restore it if you care that much
>>722872501Most people can't count properly
>>722872715>fanfictonor the literal interview where they stated they considered putting the stuff in.
>>722849680His sprite looks like he has rastas for hair
>>722872867Call me when the rest of your fanfiction is included in that interview besides "we considered putting it in but didn't"
>>722872954>considered putting the stuff in>game files clearly show that they dabbled in putting the stuff in>decide to not put the stuff in and they deemed it not worth itit doesn't take rocket science to get to this conclusion
>>722873037Those could be leftovers from the mobile version they used as a base. Also deciding to not put stuff in does in no way make the optional jobs an unsalvageable mess or whatever you want to paint them as. So your own fanfiction (backpedal-ed) doesn't even prove your point.
>>722873221>Those could be leftovers from the mobile version they used as a basemost of the game was recreated in the ff16 engine, the only things in the files that are direct ports from the mobile version are the sprites. anything related to jobs and their functions are within the ff16 engine
>>722873318As if you can't copy paste code. I don't even know why you are so sure about how they went around doing things but even if they did it your way it proves nothing. Painting all of wotl content as shit is a braindead stance that I can only see someone have because they are coping with the state of the affairs or have other motives.
>>722873318>recreatedthe word is ported
>>722872172Undead Algus is not optional in Wotl
>>722873557>>722873560again in the same interview they literally explained that they remade it from the ground it and even further explaining that they had to go off of feel for a lot of things. the datamining clearly shows that this is true.
>>722873654And now you can't read. My first post was saying that this part of wotl won't be missed at all. And the post you are replying to has the word everything in it.
>>722873736Data miners proved they lied.
>>722873809dataminers literally said the only thing that is a direct port is the sprites. where are you getting your information from if not hacktics
>>722864302>used her to feed positive info to the high confessor so Delita could keep furthering his ambitions>flaunted his plan to betray the church in front of her knowing she would attempt to kill him, pretty much telling you he no longer found her or the church useful to fulfill his planscmon son, it's right in the game
>>722873736They obviously ported stuff over. Snipets of code isn't impossible to port like spritesheets. I don't even get why you're so hung up on your very specific version of events being true. We only have a general idea. And that says nothing about wotl, again.
>>722873913>Snipets of code isn't impossible to port like spritesheetswhich i've already said was true
>>722873960I don't see your argument. Restart by explaining why hard to acquire, player only jobs are bad to have as an option, even if barebones.
>>722873790The parent post was complaing about not being able to fight shorehorned content like undead Algus. Nowhere in you post did you say it wouldn't be missed. The optional content is bad too aside from Reis' quest.
is it true that there is data for marche in the game files
>>722874140Do a better job at following a reply chain. The issue I took with the post was that it wants to frame every addition wotl made as horrible, especially the optional jobs.
fucking dragoons in the monastery are bullshit man.
>>722788368>40 dollerinos for a remake of a remakeYou lost me on this one anon
>>722874480bzzt, bzzt, bzzt
>>722872569https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Tactics_version_differencesTo me the removal of Melee and Rendezvous is the most crucial one - imagine not adding a fucking online PvP or co-op PvE into your newest TRPG remaster. I had fun playing through bullshit maps like Brave Story (10 fights in a row, and one of them is against full-decked unique chars like Orlandu + Agrias + Alma & Ovelia who spam M-Barrier on everyone + Rafa and Malak reviving everyone with Phoenix Downs from afar) or that one map against six Lucavi at the same time, and then using my OP party against OP parties of my friends (and you could ban Calculators if you wanted to).
>>722874091ntaLet's say I agreed that DK/OK were a loss, but I also don't think they are a big deal because they don't fit the scope or design of the game. Where does the convo go from here?
>>722874441It's true. They're shoehorned and horrible. Dark knight being made generic lessens Gaf as a character. Characters like Balthier and Luso are immersion nreaking and they aren't even optional so much as avoidable.
>>722874140this proves that wotl is the worst version. Shakespeare fags please leave this website.
>>722874603We agree but I understand people that miss them and wouldn't mind seeing them back.
>>722874640the shakespearisms unironically is pretty cool with the voice acting
>>722874635I can see the Luco/Balthier case since I don't even like Cloud being in. I don't see the Gaffgarion issue just because of 1 skill that he shares with Cid.
>>722830207I think that was the intention until Ludovich blurted out that it was for the sake of the church and blew Delacrois cover. Ramza and Mustadio immediatly caught wind of it quickly, which is why Delacrois killed him out of frustration.
wait so this version doesnt have the animated cutscenes?
>>722875350nope but I saw a modder trying to get them back
>>722875350They were included to be viewed through a menu as they unlock after the in-game cutscene already plays out. There is already a mod to have them play in place of the in-game ones.
Can anyone extract/record every dialogue and make a PSX voice mod pwetty pwease ? :3
so are the added cutscenes any better?
>>722876003Ok but my fat gf is voicing Agrias.
>>722876291What added cutscenes? There is a new intro and that's it.
>>722876003I wonder if anyone will try that with AI.
>>722876409excuse they said theyre adding more cutscenes
why did final fantasy 15 copy so much from Tactics and Tales of Arise?
>>722869086whatever he gets spillover JP from, probably item
>>722876291Does do what they say and helps flesh out things. It's all in battle though so you have to run uniques when doing story missions. Will help when a list of who to bring gets compiled, like Agrias speaks during Lucavi and the Zalmour fights but if Mustadio has anything up to Besseleth I wouldn't know cause I'm not using him. I know Orlandeau talks to Elmdor and heard Reis is the one that says you can use the zodiac stones to tp out if you take her to the final battle.
Art book dump huh
>>722877001>luso>balthiernever forget what they took from you
>>722876581I will never understand why Ramza needs to emphasize his cheeks during his final siege against evil
>>722789584Denuvo wins again BAYBEEEEH!
is Baron Grimms an actual person or did Delita just make up a dude out of nowhere as part of his act?
>>722868916He doesn't gain anything from leaving her alive and letting her go.
>>722877060Garbage? I think I'll just keep them put on the curb
Is Rapha still a suicidal retard in the remake?
>>722877542Even in a medieval period like this there would surely be records kept of the various orders and their members. If he made it up on the spot there's no way he wouldn't be exposed the moment someone took 5 minutes to look into it.It's all probably real, which means he probably fell in with the church sometime after ziekden, and they were probably the ones who planted him in that company of knights on goltanna's side. Wouldn't be surprised if they also orchestrated the convenient deaths of the other knights behind the scenes too.
>>722876954Mustadio has bro moments with Ramza and there was some shipping titbit with Alma
>>722878458>suicidalHaven't gotten to that part>retardShe's still a woman I'm afraid
>>722876470Its easy to do, especially now with paid tools like EllevenLabs or free stuff like VibeVoiceJust need to rip some dialog from the PSX version to create a copy of the voice.idk how to grag the dialog but if you want to clone it for free you can follow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frn1Lpd6TMUFree AI stuff naturally needs a descent Nvidia card and not all generations will be god tier but hey, better than nothing.
Tacticss Ogre Reborn and FFT Ivalice Chronicles addedthe option to leave battles including back-to-back missions and go back to world maprandom encounters can be skipped and random encounters can be encountered on demandmovements/turns can be rewindedgameplay speed can be sped upbattles can be restarted during battle instead of needing to load a save filepre-battle formations are no longer an invisible voidrecruitable character limit bumped up to 50 and dismissing characters no longer needs a confirmation prompta list of items sold in cities can be shown on the world mapworld map now has quest/notification markers in citieswhen you get a game over you can immediately retry the battle instead of needing to go the main menu and load a save fileauto-save can be done in a battleAnd don't get me started on Tactics Ogre Reborn which has a similar list and more to make the game less frustrating.I gotta say, I'm really surprised these features weren't implemented at the very start when these games were first released or re-released years later.Unless there's tech limitations of course, then that's forgivable.But man, gamers in the past must be a glutton for punishment to play these Strategy RPG games without modern features/quality of life additions.
>>722880642You guys make Tactics Ogre Reborn sound great but the steam reviews make it sound like the stinkiest dogshit to ever exist, what gives?
>>722880732it's a niche game with a cult audience, that's how it goes
>>722874592>imagine not adding a fucking online PvP or co-op PvE into your newest TRPG remaster.I mean they could've done that on the PSP and they didn't do that either, it was all LAN based which means most never played that shit
>>722839915They censored Gustav being a rapist.
>>722877970Luso might be garbage but Balthier was so good it invalidated both thief as a job and Mustadio
>>722839915 yea, christcucks btfo
>>722880732It's fine and has some mods if you want to fix/change some things.
>>722880732I hate Reborn but I'd recommend to someone purely because it's a streamlined experience.
>>722880642>gamers in the past must be a glutton for punishmentThose options are just nice to have, the game plays the same. I played it perfectly fine back then.
It took me only 40 hours to beat FFT when it first came out, because i did not give a fuck about sidequest bullshit and i was playing casually.Thanks to these new quality of life features, i was able to beat the remastered version of FFT in 30 hours. no cap. All this talk of spending 100+ hours playing FFT is fucking bonkers.All main story campaigns for all games should be 10 hours at most, save the rest of the content as optional sidequest/content.
>>722882119I can see someone spending 100+ hours blind provided they do Deep Dungeon.
>>722882119is that mandalia plain? what's happening in this picture
>>722882278What's it like doing Deep Dungeon without a light in total pitch black darkness and stepping on traps and getting poisoned and other shit?
>>722881610whats wrong with reborn that makes you hate it
i gotta say, but Ramza is pretty fuggable.also, having an entire party of gunners equipped with elemental guns is hilarious.
>>722839915>is there (schizobabble)This game was made 30 years ago, before your culture warmonkey slop
>>722874603Lets be honest if DK was in the game almost no one would give a shit about OK not being in the game.
Do I really need to sit down and mindlessly grind for hours to make Orlandeau catch up with my party? He's kinda mid right now and I'm feeling I would be better off giving my built Agrias the Excalibur
>>722883798It'll pay off in the long term. His base job stats are just flat out better than agrias's version of holy knight, particularly where speed is concerned.That's why you see cope strats like geomancer main agrias with icebrand and a black robe and attack boost.
>>722884084Is there any content that requires his stats or is Orlandeau just a scrub trap that needs babying like Nino since he's severely outclassed by everyone in my party.
>>722884181Nothing in the main story requires that much power, he's just a cheat code character. In general this is a very easy game to cheese, so treat it more like a sandbox and have fun finding a level of overpoweredness that's enjoyable for you.
>>722882550Awful.
>>722880041>posted 2 hours ago and nobody caredit must be tough being a social media obsessed schizo
>>722885420why are you freaking out over that
>>722882447It's the jump gun glitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCx-vn25hqA
>>722885509oh man you were waiting for a reply that long? that's rough kiddo
>>722882624>>722880732one vision mod is just better. Has more stuff, better balance, removes tedium and fixes bugs
>>722885580>shields in the right hand slot, weapons in the left hand slotbeen playing this game since the original release and I didn't even know you could do that
>>722882119>>722885580Is the lady Knight beating the shit out of the chocobo with low-damage punches a reference anything specific?
>>722885671I'm someone else, schizo
>>722886210if you haven't punched a chocobo to death with your bare hands, have you really played FFT as the developers intended?
>>722860458IKTFB. He's my favorite character in the entire game. Fucking loved his squabbles with Agrias.
>>722882730He's cute as hell.
>Kinda wanna play the game>MUH FUCKING DARK KNIGHT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHI don't care bro not having a superclass to grind towards feels like fucking ass
>>722887695Aren't Mime and Calculator the real super classes?
>>722888025No.
>>722887695But that was Onion Knight
>>722888025well, you get the math skills, then swich back to black mage, with math secondary.
>>722887695trophy classes are not cool
holy shit FFXIV reference?!?!?1
can I just say how funny I find it the mediator/orator can use guns.
>>722878458>Is Rapha still a suicidal retard in the remake?In tactician mode, she really doesn't get much of a chance as the foes pounce on her and throw out ultima right off the bat. I'm sure if she ever did get a turn, she'd still do something stupid, but that just won't happen.
>>722888434BECOME BRAVE, FAGGOT.OR ELSE
>>722791012as the quality of new releases plummets due to DEI developers, and as the injection of political propaganda increases, the need to improve and fix these games and their problems via mods becomes more necessary.
>>722888434Talking to someone is always easier at gunpoint.
>Want to do midlight deep and get another Excalibur>realize that without randevous multiplayer there's NO fucking reason to do anything else after beating the story or power up units any furtherFucking lame. Fun game I guess
>>722888480Same as ever.
>>722888434chemist too, since they're kinda healers>peacewasneveranoption
>>722888591that's just bad design tbqh
>>722788368No WOTL no purchase. Simple as.
>>722888694just get good
>>722888694Its a skill/class check. If you aren't a duel wielding monk then the game punishes you.
>>722888591literally what are you supposed to do in this situation
>>722888596Gunpowder is chemistry.
>>722888994you need to learn dual wielding to realize you have two arms?
>>722789286>So how do I setup Cloud to make him good?At absolute best he'll pretty much always be a dogshit unit only good for novelty. Any work you put into making Cloud good would make any other unit even better. (Unless they gave him some kind of buff in the new game)
>>722889042Reclass to ninja the. Swap back once you're done because ninja sucks now
>>722888432Is there someone in FFXIV called eldibus? That's just the name of the wizard in Midlight's deep.
>>722889082He starts with the materia blade now.
>>722889056Apparently so. Its weird like that but when the monk learns of their other arm, they become unstoppable.
>>722888694>>722889042It's a speed test. Both of the "Protect Rafa" missions are easy enough to handle if you have fast units, ideally a ninja. If even the enemy summoner gets a turn before your entire team, you need to go back to the drawing board.
>>722889082They made charge abilities faster so he's a bit better. But like just use samurai if you want a sword themed mage.
>>722788368> tfw 28 years ago you discovered your # 2 all time RPG waifu Lady Agrias Oaks
>>722889259As far as I remember his limit breaks were too slow without some kind of help from time magic, and his reliance on the materia blade makes him dogshit without dual-wielding. He can technically "work" but you end up just making your other units do nothing or move out the way so he can crawl up and do silly gimmicky shit. >>722889435>>722889216After reading this, whoa what the fuck? Did they really make that many changes? Interesting.
>>722889239He's one of the Ascian mystery niggas and a major character in Shadowbringers. His fight is probably one of the greatest moments in the story desu.
>>722889650They made the sequel to Material Blade called Material Blade + which is now the strongest normal sword in the game with 16 attack and 4 MA
>>722889082Aside from >>722889435 being true (see >>722813913 for an example), he also has Ascension, which is a free 999 against Zodiac bosses. He's a lot less useless than the original version just because his skills are noticeably faster. Add Short Charge/Swiftspell to that, and he's viable.>>722889650They also added the Materia Blade+, which gives +4 MA. Completely insane.
>>722889892Oh, so that's why Climhazzard got doubled in JP cost.
>>722889042Give them a better target.
>>722890160Rafa is a rape abuse victim, and my wife. There's no better target.
>>722889650To clarify. Ninja didn't get nerfed for anything. Everyone else is just better now. You can still abuse Ninja levels or speed but by the time that pays off the game is already broken in half
uhhh what happens to ovelia after she gets stabbed
>>722889863>>722889892Well shit, I guess Cloud has finally been added to the game. >>722890250nice
>>722890267what happens when you stab people in the chest normally?
>>722890308they get isekai'd into ffta
>>722890267she lives. But that's just according to what Matsuno says. There's nothing in the game to actually give you that answer.
>>722890267I assume she's FUCKING DEAD. Delita lived though he was just kneeling while she was KO'd on the ground
I have never ONCE used samurai, dragoon, or geomancer in any of my runs of this. They all seemed to have extremely retarded gimmicky ways to fight and would suck shit in the later fights I'd imagine
>>722890639Geomancer is a neat idea, but they do so little damage, and the added effect proc chance is pretty low it feels like. Dragoons are just stronger knights with more range.
>>722890639Hybrid Samurai Ramza is actually pretty decent
>>722890639Samurai breaking shit without having a way to repair the unique items really sucks.
>>722891559True but the healing and protect/shell swords are shop items. Those skills alone make them really strong. The shops sell the second best attack sword irrc.
>>722889216>because ninja sucks nowWhy?
