HALO BROS ITS HAPPENING AGAIN
>>722798540We must be better Spartan IIs#Halo
There are still Halo fans?
>>722798540How do you fuck up an ip so badly.
>>722798540are they working on anything besides the ue5 jeetmake of ce?
>microsoft studio>halo>has development issuesno fucking way
>>722798662It’s insane, even if they just made super safe sequels and the odd spin off the IP would probably still be going strong. But they’ve nose dived it in the space of one console generation.
>Halo Studios/343i has fucked up leadership and shitty devs >Bungie is the same >Respawn has had a lot of layoffs and shit>…>Retro pulled mainly from these companies when hiring new talent for Metroid Prime 4>game has motorcycles, open world areas, lesbian color schemes, etc How worried should we be for Prime 4?
>>722798650No, the Halo fans running around are the ones that grew up with it and can't let go.
>>722798781Its everything though. Not just the games. The tv show was shitty. I can only imagine how bad the books are now. Every aspect is badly managed.
>>722798781You have to remember Microsoft is basically all just pajeets and woke retarded women now. What are you expecting
>>722798540I guess Id Software might get a chance to work on Halo
>>722798540They worship blacks instead of God. We have no common ground with these demon lovers
>>722798540>post-Halo 3dont care.
>>722798540does this come as a surprise to literally anyone?
Let's look this over:>ANOTHER remake of CE for no reason>No multiplayer>bALO studios has outsourced half the development to other companies>half the team fired, the other half still retarded>forced to change their name, still can't remake a game from 2000What the fuck hahaThese guys couldn't make a Halo flash game
>>722798540they are getting rid of leftoids but they/them/it are doing it themselves
>>722798791Halo hasn't improved on any features since Reach, but you can bet your FUCKEN ASS every lgbtq-blacklivesmatter day of EVERY fucking year has a special event, skin, nametag, and armor.There are more rainbow and BLM colorschemes in Halo infinite than normal colors.
>>722798662By hiring people who don't even like the series to work on it
>>722798662You could probably count on one hand the number of video game IPs that have been managed well over the past 3 decades. The more common result of an IP is to be fucked up. It's just a matter of time.
>>722798662microsoft just doesnt care about xbox and maybe never actually did? my theory is that their only goal with xbox was to stop japanese companies from becoming too influential in america. i think they don't even pretend to care anymore because the yen is cooked and japanese publishers are forced to make westernized games or die, plus they own all the biggest game companies and are the top publisher on playstation. tldr xbox was made to cuck sony but sony cucked itself so xbox is being shut down
>>722799434Xbox was a trojan horse to get into people's living rooms.
Here’s the dev
>>722798662To be honest, even as a dumb teenager I saw this coming. Like yeah, it's the fun LAN party shooty game but it's also an immensly narrative driven one. A story and setting the fanbase really care and get invested in.Milking a franchise that had a very clear cut and definitive conclusion was never going to go well.
>>722798540Considering the franchise art direction has been fucked since Halo 4, this might be a good thing.
>>722799535Sounds like higher ups want to make a game with straight male gamers as target audience and he had a problem with it
halo "bros" still exist?I grew up playing thousands of hours of halo 1 / 2 / 3 / odst / reach in my younger years. Now, I haven't played a halo game since the abomination that was 4 and probably never will again.Why would I bother? I don't care about the story anymore, Halo was all about saving Earth from the covenant. We did that, the new stories they want to tell are trash and uninteresting, so much that as far as I'm aware, they just had to re-hash the covenant again by making another covenant faction be the main baddies again since the forerunner shit from 4 was so shitty. It's a failed, directionless franchise. The people at Bungie that created the original games had a beginning and end to their story, and then microsoft got involved and wanted to make it a cash cow forever and look where it is now. The only way Halo can ever succeed is by making prequels set in the original covenant war, but they won't work because the stakes won't be as high since we already know the outcome, and master chief did all the real legwork in that war to end it anyways. Unironically, the only way for halo to survive is to kill off / retire the master chief for good, and they will never do that.
>>722799535>ethics or valuesAh ok, nothing of value lost
Didn't the Flood consume another galaxy or something like that? Couldn't that work for a game's premise since they should still be out there somewhere?
>>722799776Just reboot the lore after Halo 3Have the 343 slop be some alternate history crapThat’s the only way to fix it. Everything else is hilarious cope.
>>722799968What is halo lore after 3? I tried playing 4 and 5 but got bored. Infinite was just master chief fighting dudes again from what I remember
>>722798540>Melissa Boone>Fat Black purple-haired black womanI'd make a joke, but the joke makes itself. However, I see this as a win.
>>722798540This is Melissa Boone btw.
>>722799535So, for 17 years, Israel was NOT trading away his health, dignity, ethics or values? For 17 years, he was always doing the right thing and not taking a big, fat paycheck?
>>722799968It wont matter cause whatever people liked about the gameplay has been lost. I mean destiny 1 was basically just halo with a power button while Halo 4 was a cod clone.
>>722798662>foreign investment subversion>incestuous hiring>peter principled leadership>nepotism>cronyismit's all of these for the entire game industry
>>722799776I think making a adaptation of Contact Harvest would be a good step to gaining people's trust again. After that they can think of what to do next but they need to figure out what makes Halo Halo first.Kind of like what The Coalition is doing with Gears of War.
>>722799535He's right even if his last name is Israel>>722799716The opposite. Phil Spencer wanted them to make a collab with concord canon.
>>722800053Humans somehow rebounded after the war and became the most powerful force in the galaxy despite being down to 2 ships in halo3. Also forerunners are now no longer ancient humans but another species. But ancient humans were also powerful space fairing race on par with them, and they create the flood when they feed space dust to their dogs. Also the master chief is apparently the chosen one who the forerunners planned to be born or something. Cortana becomes evil for some reason and takes over the galaxy but she dies offscreen because nobody likes that plotline. Now the banished are the dominant faction somehow despite losing to the spirit of fire in halo wars 2
>>722798662I'll place the blame squarely on Frank O'Connor
>>722800060more like sheboone
>>722800098You forgot:>outsourcing to saars>obsession with diversity in hiring>343 taking a month off from work because the War in Ukraine started and it stress out the staff in America>343 taking a month off from work when Trump won (both times) for mental healthThat really shows what the fuck is going on in there.There is no desire to make good games. I wouldn't want to work there, it sounds like a cult.
>>722798540>only worked on the bad halo gamesHe would have joined halfway into odst development. Yes everything after odst is dogshit and your revisionism will never convince me making reach a hero shooter is a good thing
Marty has been sitting on his fat ass doing nothing for nearly a decade now and for some reason Microsoft doesn't contract the music out to him. I get that he's kind of a douche but his music is one of the most important parts of Halo's atmosphere.
>>722798540Halo was never good. Fight me.
>>722798540>>722799535>>722800069So as this artist rose in rank and seniority, the art direction got worse, then it only got better in infinite because they just went back to old designshealth ,dignity, ethics and values sound like 4 red flags. For all know some suit finally came in and told him to stop ruining halo and he saw himself out. I feel like if the suits were ruining halo the artists would just say that. Why is this a personal attack on his soul?
>>722799535This sounds almost exactly like how the devs were bitching when a Saudi Prince bought EA.This sounds like a real good thing.
>>722800227Absolutely correct.It is so ass. You also forgot the fact that everyone is a Super Cool Spartan now, and that Spartans are power rangers.Also it's no longer a Military Sci-fi universe. It's a Space Fantasy one with space magic and sparkles. Also no blood anymore.
>>722798540Why haven't Microsoft completely shutdown 343 Studios already?Looking at their track record, they should've been shutdown 3 times over already.
>>722800190>doubt>>722800375yeah, i agree
>>722799535>Muh ethics and values>>722800060>Purple haired nigSo, uh, isn't this good news then?
They should make a halo rts/fps like natural selection or that savage game.Microsoft. Give me a call. Im an ideas guy
>>722800060>>722800248remove the L in the name
>>722800428Because Bonnie Ross had dirt on Phil Spencer or had a relationship with him.Find a better reason.Protip: you can't
>>722799535All of these Microsoft robots speak the same HR babble. The industry is "dire" because the people making games have no interest in video games and haven't a clue what fun is anymore.
HOW DO YOU CONSISTENTLY FUCK UP SUCH A SIMPLE FUCKING FRANCHISE FOR OVER A DECADE?
>>722800060>boone>creepy ass haircut>multicolored dyes>obese
>>722798650No. Just 35+ year olds who can't let go. They were great games but it has been abundantly clear since 2012 that Halo without Bungie is just garbage.
>>7228003463 was really, really fun online splitscreen.uncensored shit talking.some of the best split screen i've had easily.reach to a lesser extent but still very fun.
>Art director worked on Halo 4 onward>His last name is "Israel">Freaks out about ethics and values as he's shown the doorGood riddance. I'm sure he was so freak.
>>722798650No everyone that I know who loved halo to death has long given up.
microsoft is forcing AI use in all their dev teamsthat's what is happeningexpect elder scrolls 6 filled to the brim with it too
>>722800360Halo Infinite actually looks worse than 5. Both from an artistic perspective and a graphical fidelity perspective. Halo 5 has some retardation going on in the character designs (the power ranger problem) but usually it looks like an upgraded Halo 3. Halo infinite on the other hand just looks like garbage because of the open world.
halo is healing.
>>722800651Yeah that’s probably the actual answer
>Sony devs care more about the franchise than the actual Halo devs
>>722800465>ideas guyThey wanted to work on a Halo style Helldivers 2 type game with ODSTs, but 343's leadership said no.Trust me, they don't want your ideas because they'd make them look bad. Also they hate "the chuds" or something.
>>722800060I hate Xbox devs attaching their gamertag like "Look gamers I am also gamer buy our products because we have gamer cred" you're soulless corpo bots just make the slop please
>>722800346Brown
>Tried to humanize Chief in the sequel trilogy by turning him into an epic dad figure like Joel or Reboot Kratos when is explicity not supposed to be anything other than a stoic badass for players to insert as>Have to keep making up shitty new villains and finding excuses to bring back the covenant somehow >The schlocky war movie vibes of the original games are completely gone >Level designs of the campaigns are complete shit>The prometheans are fucking infuriating to fight with all their warping around and reviving themselves bullshit>Shitfinites campaign literally only had 3 biomes >The fuckawful art direction change they went with the armor? Weapon, and enemy design>The campaigns dont even fucking matter since each game is basically just rebooting the story again cause they cant fucking commit to their awful story>Multiplayer went super hard into chasing the epic schizomovement esports gamers>Monetized the absolute fuck out of it starting with 5 and to actual comedic degrees with Shitfinite, basic ass color customization is paywalledThe list goes on and on of everything they did wrong
>>722800651The Oblivion and Gears of War remasters this year already felt like AI slop.
>>722800360>Rise up in rank, art style gets progressively shittier until you go back to the old designs, that you had no part in making in the first place.How the fuck do these people have jobs to begin with?
>>722799512here's something interesting. you know how saudi arabia just bought EA? well both of the firms they partnered with to broker the deal, Silver Lake (partially founded by Gates) and Affinity Partners (founded by Jared Kusher who has been mentored by Gates) have deep connections to Bill Gates. Silver Lake is partially founded by Gates and Affinity Partners is founded by Jared Kushner (Ivanka Trump's husband) who has basically been mentored by Gates. Another very interesting thing is that the Gates foundation, Trump and Kushner have been making billion dollar deals with the Saudi's for years.im pretty sure microsoft just bought EA through proxies
>>722800696>we got the classic shotgun in a Sony game before 343 put in one of their games
>>722800771ANANCIENTEVILAWAKENSWHY WON'T YOU CHUDS GET ITTHIS ANCIENT EVIL IS WORSE AND IT IS AWAKENINGYOU WILL GET A NEW ANCIENT EVIL EVERY GAME AND IT WILL BE FINISHED IN A BOOK
>>722800795The Gears Remaster is literally 10 years old...It's just a port of the previous remaster.
>>722798540PLEASE SELL THE IP ALREADY PHIL
>>722800375The Saudis were LITERALLY responsible for islamic terrorism against the USA and killed over 3000 Americans.did people here forget about 9/11 already?
>>722800760Just old. Halofags are no better than CoDkiddies.
Imagine if you were a Saudi prince and you could just buy the Halo IPAs long as you manage it properly it would print money.
>>722800060>Principle UX Researcher>The UX in Infinite is genuinely fucking awful
>>722800853I know. And a shitty remaster/port it is. But they pretty clearly added an AI 4K filter pass over it.
>>722800294>game about fighting aliens that want to exterminate ALL humans>need a month off cause feelings got hurtwas there any hope to begin with?
>>722800878And China was responsible for Covid. No one cares.
>>722800878>muh SaudisSure thing moshe
Give me the IP Phil.
there is fundamentally something wrong with american game developers because the same problems are popping up in every formerly respected AAA dev teams even in succesful studios
>>722800360>For all know some suit finally came in and told him to stop ruining halo and he saw himself out.Wish these types would come out and state their issues face to face to the male audience that made all these franchises instead of hiding behind their "games" like a little bitch
>>722800839You don’t understand chud the endless are FAR more dangerous than the flood!
>>722800808Xmutt cope.
>>722799716This is a former Bungie era dev, they used to make racial jokes about their employees on their official website back then.
>>722800984The end result of Jewish-assisted nepotism.I know it sounds crazy, but it's the truth. A constant circle jerk of industry professionals in every field, from Video Games to Music to Movies.Most aren't jewish, but it starts at the top. No new blood is allowed to enter and you have to be part of the cult to get in.
>>722800771I knew Infinite was going to be a flop when they didn't even have basic colors for red and blue team.
It's 100% about ai usage, the dude is an artist and complains about ethics and values, AI is the only thing an artist would have problems with
>>722798540>add sprint and ADS to be more like COD>diesim noticing
>>722800968Would they bother suing if you tried to make an indie Halo?
>>722800984It's a mix of>we need to maximize monetization by trying to appeal to broader audiences and implement shitty monetization practices>we need to fill our studios with unqualified DEI hires for blackrock money>we don't have enough time or control to actually make the game we want to make. everything is filtered through 12 different executives and leads who don't have a clear vision
>>722799378MicroProse got dug out its grave with the help of one of its founders and a bunch of /vr/ fanboys, so maybe we'll get more ludo out from that.30 years is just too long to be running an IP consistently. Shit gets bought, passed around, subverted, the visionary gets fired, the visionary just plain gets old, there's too much that can happen.
uhm we renamed our studio so everythings fine??
>>722800968>Halo 4 Chief design
>>722801063A lot of these people got heavily radicalized to wokeness in the past 15 years.
>>7228000534 and 5's lore is genuinely so bad and contradictory that you'd have an impossible time rationalizing it as canon. Forerunners weren't human, and Master Chief's entire fate was written in the stars as some chosen one prophecy. Fucking atrocious.Infinite had so little lore, that even the dedicated lore channels, literal paid by bungie, people who were in the forerunner program, and straight up shills were making videos about how little lore, or anything of any importance beyond what you played yourself, actually exists. Genuinely had nothing to talk about.
>>722801105If you charged money for it, used a fundraiser, a patreon, or accepted ANY form of financial compensation, they would sue.You also wouldn't be able to release it on ANY platform for any reason, even steam.And if it was successful, they would sue the shit out of you anyways.
>>722800878>(((Saudis)))
>>722801105historically MS has actually been very supportive of fangamesthey even had a fangame page saying you could use their IPs noncommercially just not their trademarksdunno if they're still like that though
>>722800667This time for sure.
>>722801079Jeet
>>722800696Microsoft needs to be nuked.
>>722799535Yeah this sounds like they're leaving because of AI.
>>722800878So I should still hate Japan over Pearl Harbor? Shut the fuck up nitwit.
>>722800375Saudi prince is literally a webbo pleddit fag >le based muslimbeing homo is a muslim traditionAnd the suadi are just the merchant bankers dogs. You imbecile.
>>722798540Why don't they just copy the good ones into more modern containers?
>>722798540>rename 343>they're still 343shocker
>>722801518Exactly.
>>722800693Makes a lotta sense with a jeet in charge, they worship that shit.
>>722801423really about the only read on is possible unless you're deep in the kool aid
>>722798662>How do you fuck up Halo IP so badly?>“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and, in certain cases, have very discrete focus on doing deals and other things make being on Xbox hard as a team - that’s on us, not on anybody else...But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way.>....I see a lot of pundits out there that kinda want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole share. That’s just not the world that we are in today. There’s no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That’s not gonna happen.”Phil Spencer (CEO Microsoft Xbox Gaming, 10+ years tenure)
>>722801518It's so weird how so many suckers got hyped for a name change.
>>722798540Who fucking cares anymore?Only halo youtubers bc they made halo their job, i actually feel sorry for them but it's over.It was over long time ago, when the same Bungie fixed all the infection spot in Halo reach. That was the start of the decline.And when they announced halo studios? A rapid check to the employee and u would already know the game would never launch in a good way. And when they release the Halo EU5 trailer? Shit looked like the fortnite master chief skinAnd when they basically confirmed it's gonna be another CE remake after a CE soft remake? Who is even fucking hyped for this?Only retards and people who needs to be bc it's their fucking job
>game pass price doubled>retarded cloud gaming feature>now it sounds like they're embracing AI artWhat is Microsoft actually doing?
>>722801708>that middle asianWhy is the west so obsessed with using the flared nostril asians as their tokens?
>>722798540>18 years since they made a good halo game
>>722801858Women don't want to cast women that are more attractive than them for anything. That's why you can't have a woman in charge of character design or hiring women (unless they are a rare based one, which makes them a godsend in the industry).Also, jews hate East Asians almost as much as Whites, so there is that. So they try to associate Asian with pajeet or Uggos.
>>722798662halo was never goodpeople losing interest after getting exposed to actually good shooters is only natural
>>722801930Halo Reach was a good game, kys
>>722801858Same reason established redheads girls are race swapped to black.
>>722801063>they used to make racial jokes about their employees on their official website back then.Where?
>>722798540
>>722802297IT'S OVER
>>722798540>every industry has issues but somehow only in video games you constantly have faggots crying about them and try to push them onto the consumers
>>722800559Ironically Bungie without Halo is also garbage (not as bad as the other way around but still a shell of itself)
>>722798540>the average Halo fan
>>722798662Ask Crash Bandicoot
>>722800559Halo 4 was great thoughever
>>722802662Destiny started out pretty good. Gameplay was significantly better than the only competition in the genre at the time (Borderlands). Shame what has become of Destiny 2 at this point though.
>>722802662Unironically they really are just as badDestiny is fucking garbage and it actively deletes old content you paid money to play
>>722802662Because Bungie, just like "Halo Studios" is only a name and by the time of Destiny all of the origonal people that made Halo, Marathon, Myst and so on left and got replaced by former Microsoft yuppies.
>>722802662>>722802793>It's the name of the studios not the people that work in it
>>722798540They're switching UE5 so they're not gonna need an art director. "Artists" are a thing of the past.
>>722798662all of the people who made Halo what it is, left the series, and bungie, and now all that's left is basically nobodythis happens to every single franchise btw. Those that made it great move on
>>722798662People in charge, that don't like the game, chased trends of other games.>>722799536>Like yeah, it's the fun LAN party shooty game but it's also an immensly narrative driven oneNah, it could have survived longer if it had decent multiplayer.Reminder that 4 didn't have Infection. It had Flood, which only allowed infected players to use swords, effectively gutting almost every unique custom game from 3 and Reach.And then 5 launched with 4 (FOUR) game modes; Slayer, neutral flag CTF, Strongholds (a subdivision of Territories), and Warzone.Then Infinite was basically JUST Slayer.
>nobody actually reads who this person is>still shitpostsYep yep, it's /v/ all right.
>>722803128So why is Mario and Zelda still so great 40+ years later?
>>722802789And I assume by great you mean the worst game in the series?
>>722802789the fuck?
>>722799535>IsraelJokes right themselves
>>722800345>for some reasonNobody will touch marty with a ten foot pole because he sued bungie and nobody wants to deal with that potentially happening to them. Marty is based but I think he probably burned those bridges awhile ago
>>722800060Good riddance
>>722800667Yup, sounds like Microsoft MAY finally be done with wokeness. This is only a good thing
>>72279854017 years ago was halo 4. This is just another woke slip art director of when the franchise was already dying. Who cares what they think?
>Youtube is making jokes about Israel and /v/ isn'tI'm disappointed in you, /v/
>>722803560>17 years ago>halo 4That was a year before ODST released, anon.
>>722800878fuck Reagan and fuck the Republican old guard, this ain't the 80s anymore grandpa.fuck Neoconsfuck Evangelicalsfuck Libertarians
Halo Infinite pissed me off more than 4 and 5 combined.The fact that they had a winning gameplay formula ready to go and STILL managed to fuck it up completely. God dammit.
>>722800346You're wrong and a faggot
>>722803763>343 Industries started with a staff of roughly a dozen people in late 2007.>The studio's development of Halo 4, which began in 2009Assuming the guy was hired late in 2008 and did early concept art stuff for H4 then he only worked on 343 trash.
>>722802691>it's realWhy would a man do this to himself?
Was this art director the one that told everyone that Purple wasn't allowed anymore in Halo 4 because it looked "immature", so all the Covenant stuff was made blue?
>>722802691I fucking hate this country sometimes, kekHow does he live with himself?
>>722803947What’s wrong with a step son
>>722798662Women and minorities.
>>722798662I'm a Final Fantasy fan so...
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>>722798540I simply can't imagine a Halo game without sheBoone at the helm.
>>722798540>343 nigger artist left 343who carehalo has been dead for over a decade
>>722798540>Didnt work on Halo 1 or 2 or 3So they worked on all the shitty ones. In fact the art design was especially bad
>Joined 2008Oh so he's the faggot responsible for the bullshit post-reach brought us like space sentient robots and an ancient evil awakens?
>>722804370When they awaken the Ancient Evil in Halo Eternity, you're gonna be sorry!You think the Didact was bad? You think the Promethean Robots were bad? YOU THINK THE ENDLESS WAS BAD?Wait until you see the next ancient evil.
I honestly struggle to think of a studio that would do Halo justice at this point. Can't think of any with the ability or proper management.Maybe some indie studios, I dunno.
>>722798540Just fucking let it die already. Everyone with a brain gave up hope for a good Halo game to come out.
>>722804554Just give it to me.I'll scrap all the lore that came out after Halo 3 and give it a fresh start.Trvst the plvn.
>>722804654DM'd you the papers :)
>>722800517AI therapy is about as good as real therapy. Bonus points because the computer can't really push weird pills on you.
>>722804680Thanks bro.We'll start with a fresh take.The Arbiter picks up our boy John 117, saving him right as he's about to crash in Requiem. He has his own ship, with his shipmaster bro and a detatchment of ODSTs, featuring everyone's favorite Rookie.They then deploy from his ship to explore the planet.Easy start, take it from there. No Promethean cuckery. Gradually introduce the new setting.Basic weapons, but some new fun stuff combining UNSC and Elite tech.Ease the player in on the first part of the campaign with Brute Remnants, sentinels, and maybe a few other things.The Patriots are in control now.
>>722800696Arrowhead isn't really a Sony studio. You can tell from the fact that their live service game wasn't a massive disaster.
>>722804254Every now and again, you get hit by one of those 2009 was 36 years ago realizations.
>the year is 2070>your bionic body is at low battery, so you recharge it while you sit next to your andriod AI waifu>you think about the past>Halo CE came out 123 year ago>damn life goes by fast
>>722798662Wokeism.
>>722803178>Reminder that 4 didn't have Infection. It had Flood, which only allowed infected players to use swords, effectively gutting almost every unique custom game from 3 and Reach.Which really sucks because you could totally make an in-between by having Infection, but you play as Flood-infected humans and Elites with the usual weapons
>Glenn "ISRAEL", the fucker who gave us the shitty spin-off games after the Halo trilogy and helped spearhead the garbage post-Halo trilogy>finally gone>Melissa BOONE, faggot chick who's a DEI hire who hired faggots and trannies like her to work on Halo while having purple hair>goneAny retards complaining that this is a bad thing is a tranny that needs the bullet. Sounds like Halo Studios is cleaning out the WOKE.
>>722798662it's xbox, which is completely western, so their DEI hiring has crippled their game management and development. they would be more open about it if companies were allowed to make woke ideology look bad.
>>722804370Yup, fuck Rebs for trying to force this as a negative.
>>722804370You're mad at a writer, not the art director
>>722805424Is that why the biggest event in each Halo game was BLM day?
>>722805631?The art direction in 4-5 was total shit.Even infinite has shit art direction. The Banished look absolutely ridiculous, like mega-block characters. There isn't even any violence on screen.Reach's visuals blow and art direction blows it the fuck out of the water in every way, and it's over a decade old.
There is no chance in hell that the CE remake will be able to capture this level of SOVL
>>722798662>small group of devs make a game out of love for games>it becomes a smash hit>dev team becomes multiple times bigger to work on the next game>next game is really good too>dev team multiplies again>now the team is big enough and the game budget is big enough that it can't fail anymore>publisher starts messing with the content of the game to chase profits>original dev team members start quitting to go work in smaller teams>next game doesn't hit expected profit numbers>big chunk of the original devs get fired along with a bunch of the newer guys>repeat a couple times and no original devs are left>how could the games become so bad????
>>722805776You forgot>hire a massive obese black woman with rainbow hair called "Boone" to manage the franchise
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>>722805943Cutting myself while looking at this image and listening to breaking benjamin. Thank you anon
>>722798791We've known prime 4 was going to be shit since they hired a tranny who wanted to make samus a man. It's not about the influence of that 1 individual who quit, it's the willingness to hire mentally ill people that is a gigantic red flag. Valve warns their employees that the most important job they have is who they choose to hire because they know that letting trash in will kill the company
>>722799535This sounds like Microsoft is forcing AI which isn't a surprise. I expect 343 to be shut down in the next few years
>>722804554Respawn probably could have made a good halo just after they put out Titanfall 2, these days I'm not so sure. Within Microsoft first party I'd rather see the Wolfenstein team make a single player halo than get anything new from halo studios.
>>722806787>Wolfenstein teamlollmao, even
>>722798662>assume IP is too big to fail>hand it over to literal nobodies that have zero talent or interest in video gamesThey may as well have just pulled a bunch of homeless people off the street.
>>722807014If you're scared of woke you aren't getting around it no matter which Microsoft studio you give the IP to. The Wolfenstein team atleast has the expertise to craft a somewhat compelling narrative.
>>722798662You listen to the fans. See starwars.
>>722803259Because the people who created Mario still work at the company. READ DAMMIT READ.
>>722798662As much as every retard on this board will want to say DEI, it’s just Microsoft being a complete dumpster fire of management. They mishandled everything about their division, and they are cheap as fuck and replace their devs teams with contractors, so these games become spaghetti code. Anything not being completely botched by them would be a miracle. So I guess Forza
>>722807495Eh, Forza is still heavily botched and Motorsport shipped with bugs that were fixed in Horizon like since FH4 and a ton of audio bugs and straight up ear grating engine sounds.Horizon seems to be the one doing alright despite all odds being against it which is fucking weird.
>>722807586Ah, good to know. I’m not as familiar with the franchise, so I forget to unlump the subseries sometimes
>>722798540this is gonna end with sony and ms forcing bungie to make halo
>>722800696can i haz recon?
>>722805638I wouldn't even be surprised
Are pre-Halo Bungie games worth playing?
>>722807936>Bungie in name only
>>722808309it be ms leap of faith
>>722800517lmao wtf
>>722805398With Infection, you could make fucking anything. Cops and Robbers, Ghostbusters, fucking JENGA.343 just saw "Oh, they want the zombie mode" and just made the worst possible version of Zombies from matchmaking that nobody played!
>>722800060>>722799535>>722798540xbros we are SO back
>>722808409don't forget that they're literally ripping off cod zombies this month.
>>722800696No arrowhead doesn't give a single fuck either every single item in that picture ranges from bad to offensively mediocre but most are straight up bad. This is just larp cosmetics not actual useful stuff that's on the other battlepasses.
>>722807405Counterpoint: Final Fantasy is dogshit these days, and it's the same people making it.
>>722809016>shotgun actually kills at decent range but has no capacity and no choke options to choose your spread>assault rifle has medium pen but is the inferior 32 rounder and has no sights>silenced guns are a coin flip on if only the enemy you hit gets aggro'd or all of them and do jack shit damage>armor passive as only useful because the rupture strain genuinely magnetized to players even as they're diving away, leading to your legs getting hit every timeI get that their engine was discontinued mid development and they disn't have time to swap to a new one, but goddamn, they're retarded when it comes to weapons.
>>722807586>Horizon seems to be the one doing alright despite all odds being against it which is fucking weird.There's more racing game expertise in the UK than the entire rest of the world combined. It's not too surprising the UK team would be doing alright while the American one devolved into an outsourcing shit show.
>>722809250They released the dogwater Halo battlepass with a shit AR then dumped the coyote a couple days later, the most busted gun since the original punisher.
>>722800696Not really Sony, Arrowhead is an independent studio, Sony just got publishing rights.Kind of ironic that the most successful Live Service game in Sony's Live Service push... isn't even really theirs.
>>722800878Also remember when the Saudis lured a US citizen into their embassy in Turkey 7 years ago and hacked him to pieces and nothing happened?
>>722808940I can't remember, because I dropped Infinite a week after it came out.
at this point i can only imagine some tranny running around smearing shit all over the walls
Halo retard discussion here>>>/vg/541781787>>>/vg/541781787>>>/vg/541781787Move
>>722800797>glenn israelgee man i have no idea
>>722809972I’ve been there already. It’s sad to see how they try to keep that pigsty alive by force and others try to be the popular kids
>>722809062Not really, FF16 was from a weird mmo team, FF15 was taken off Nomura before it was finished. I think the last time there was real OG talent directing FF was 12.
>>722801708huge fucking cope by spencerxbox was made specifically to destroy sony and nintendo - to take over the game marketsomeone post the interview/comment that proves this is what they wanted to do
>>722810461FFVIIR is made by the original team, and it's complete dogshit.
>>722798662hiring people that dont like army or guns
>>722799904Yes retard that's why it's called "Dead Space" the flood has consumed the rest of the Galaxy and the Brethren Moons know where the last of humanity is.
>>722809386>rifle better at setting things on fire than the actual flamethrower>which doesn't have impact damage from flames the way enemy flamethrowers dogrim.
>>722807495Halo going to shit predates DEI, doesn't it?
>>722801993Lmao contrarian faggot
>>722798540>she-BooneAnything after Halo 3 is non-canon anyway
>>722798540I spent this morning watching the old Halo 3 - Reach live action ads/trailers and fuck I missed when people actually cared and put effort into this franchise. Just replayed 1-3 and couldn't bear to touch 4 on the MCC. I wish this franchise was put in literally anyone elses hands. I genuinely wholeheartedly believe any random fucking OG Halo fan would have done a better job in running the franchise than Frank O'Connor and Bonnie Ross, who torpedoed it into the ground.
>>722798662Went from a bunch of nerdy guys who love making and playing video games to a bunch of people who don't even like halo, or really video games for that matter.
>>722811425Kiki Wolfkill took over as lead writer for 4 onwards and she is most definitely a diversity hire.
>>722799378Funny how MS/Xbox was unwilling to sell the Perfect Dark IP despite killing the new game and likely never using it ever again. Banjo, Conker, PD, and a bunch of other legacy IPs will rot. That's not even bringing ABK legacy IPs. RIP
>>722798662By gifting your company to Indians.
>>722812892bloody benchod bich fuck yu
>>722798662You can not cross the same river twice.Any IP that is held by a company for longer than ten years usually becomes shit and it would have been better if "the original" had to compete with fan creations for primacy, since that's how human creation normally works.
>>722800294Why are americans so mentally retarded?
>>722800060was this thing one of those types seething at elden ring's """UX""" ?
>>722813119Human creation isn't about rehashing the same IP till the end of time, you make your own shit, you don't live in the corpse of someone else's creation. This is why 343 was doomed from the start
>>722798662microsoft is jeetcaptured
>>722798662The actual reason is Microsoft has a disastrous way of running first party projects where they hire mostly contractors to work on them, but then have to fire them at 18 months so they don't legally become an employee. They do this to cut costs and avoid paying the full expense of an employee. So nobody ever stays on the project long enough to see it from start to finish.Here's a video of a developer who worked on Forza Motorsport explaining it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WG_cBQu01Y&feature=youtu.beBasically Microsoft is appallingly run by accountants and will never make a good game again while Phil Spencer is still in charge
>>722798662Bungie wanted out and Microsoft was having enough of Bungie, but Bungie still had a good enough reputation at the time where they had to part ways on good terms because it was good for business. But at that point, no one really wanted to make Halo anymore aside from 343. But the people at 343 for years, didn't really wanna make Halo. They wanted to make their own shit, in a skin that looked like Halo.Rinse and repeat for over a decade of shuffling staff in and out with no one who actually wants to make halo stays for long and you're just left with the modern state of the IP.That said, not like things would've gone well if Bungie kept on it either, given what happened with Destiny over the years.
Chef and Catalina are still sleeping nigga #letdatniggasleep
>>722798662literally not fucking FIRING everyone in 343iive never seen a franchise this mismanaged by a studio with a publisher so unwilling to give a ultimatum, even Sonic the fucking Hedgehog is a healthier franchise todayWHY DONT THEY JUST DISBAND THIS STUDIO, THEY BOUGH ACTIVISION THEY HAVE LEGIONS OF FPS VETERANS AT COMMAND WHO WOULD DO A BETTER JOB
>>722799535Since he was the art director for H4 and H5 I doubt he's going to be sorely missed
>dev studio is made of talented people>games are good so studio gets bigger and bigger>eventually the shareholders start to get a say in everything that happens>"WHY AREN'T YOU CHARGING FOR COSMETICS?">"YOU NEED TO HIRE MORE WOMEN!!!">throw women into useless roles like HR>now you have devs leaving because of executives forcing dogshit because the shareholders want it>the women in HR are only hiring indians and trannies because they're women and are retarded>now there's like 2 good devs left surrounded by a sea of poop and estrogen pills>they leave to go form their own studio which will shit out maybe 1 or 2 shit indie games before shutting downon the other side it's not just executives to blame for every issue, sometimes the gameplay just sucks ass and thats a dev issue.
>>722813637This shit and my current experience trying to find a new job to hop to has really soured me on corporations. This mentality of recent returns outweighing longterm returns has gotta collapse at some point.
>>722813904Corporations have absolutely shit the bed after covid. They've gone from being somewhat tolerable beforehand to now being insatiable wealth extraction machines bent on destroying society. Microsoft is near worst of the worst. The guy from 343 is quitting almost certainly because they want to fill the game with AI-generated slop art and the artists won't go along with it, hence 'dignity'
I dropped infinity the second it started with the most advanced warship in the universe being destroyed by monkey rebels.
>>722800696But the armor passive is meh, the MA5C is a worse Adjudicator, the M7S is easily the worst SMG in the game, and the pistol can't headshot making the "stealth" angle pointless.Most offensive of all, the M90A's 600dmg is completely negated by it being light pen, so 60% damage against anything other than trash mobs (where 600dmg pump-action is useless overkill) means it's just a shittier Halt with less ammo, utility, and mag capacity. For a $15 "Legendary" warbond, I expected weapons that were at least not pure SHIT. I'd be more mad if the ODST armor wasn't the coolest-looking armor in the game.
>>722801423Microsoft has fired like 10k developers+ this year plus last year. They also have development quotas to use their AI, 2025's quota is 100% usage per day. So if you are a dev you better FUCKING use their AI every single day or you're not getting your bonus you scumfuck.They're basically burning their games division.
>>722807324Halo and Star Wars had basically the same downfall. and neither EVER listened to fans. you're literally a 343 shill, aren't you?
>>722799378Gotta give it to Sonic, they took their licks with shit like 06 and later Boom, and finally put the dumb "meta" era behind. Let's just hope the next mainline doesn't throw all that in the trash.
>>722800069>>722800060>>722800918UX is trash in ALL games made after ~2015 because of>forced online so you get at least one extra loading screen before you can do anything>lootbox / gambling etc. pushed on the player so menu items are sorted intentionally so you have to navigate past or even THROUGH shit you are not interested in to get where you actually want>everything is slow, laggy, stuttery because of the object oriented meme and hiring fucking webdevs to do video game UII think the jury is still out on the concept artist though. you can't do much damage with concept art. ruining the visual style of Halo is squarely on the people who made the 3D models (nuElites, Greg) and ruined the graphics with bad colorgrading and by making all materials look like plastic. it is still suspicious that he joined Bungie right after Halo 3. makes you wonder whom he replaced and if that guy maybe was one of the reasons Halo 1 and 3 looked so good.>>722805631>>722805675his profile says "art director" now but all of his credits just say concept art until Infinite where they added a "senior" to his title. he really wasn't a big shot at 343 until one game ago. and the concept art for Infinite wasn't the problem, graphically the problem is in the actual rendering, not in what they're TRYING to render.
>>722815628Episode 7 was literally directed by the fans for the fans. You couldn't fit in more fan wankery if you tried, this is also true of the mandalorian and other fan wank dog shit like rogue one. Halo infinite was the "return" to classic halo to appease the fans, it was the most boring, creatively bankrupt turd I've ever seen and it will have killed the IP permanently. Their final hail Mary is to remake the first game for the second fucking time, all to appease retarded fans who don't know what they want.
>>722798540Finally, an IP being fucked that I don't care about.
>>722798662343 was founded on rotten ground.Bungie had an incredible track record with Halo.Halo was THE shooter IP on the console market.A generational game which defined an entire console generation.And now you suddenly put new guys in charge of it and a whole lot of people aren't sure if those new guys are up for the task.Should they just make "more Halo"?Should they take a spin on the entire franchise to make it "their own" thing?From what we heard the people working at 343 never liked being in the shadow of Bungie and that problem started day 1.Imagine having an amazing older brother. Loved by everyone. Top athlete. Aces every exam. But then he decides that taking over the family business isn't really his thing and he leaves the country to find his own purpose. That older brother is Bungie.And you are the little adoptive brother of his - and now everyone expects you to fill those large shoes.Not exactly a good environment to be in.And Halo 4 having such a troubled development history only made things worse. Cause now the doubters got even louder. Which in turn made the entire thing even more toxic.
>>722798662DEI Destroys everything it touches.
>>722816618Continuing the analogy because it is funny, the younger brother fucks up the business so much that it isn't recognizable, while the older brother went off the rails and became a former shell of himself.
>>722816618The worst part is that the younger brother was actually talented and would have been successful had he been tasked with anything besides the family business which he did not want to inherit.The 343 games are bad halo games that I didn't want to play but they are still better than 95% of what their competition was shitting out.
>>722816357ah yes, the fans who wanted>Luke not to be in the movie>Luke having failed at everything to the point where he accidentally created the new villain>the empire just rises again which means Luke never accomplished anything in the first place, even before he became a pathetic hermit leaving all his friends to fend for themselves in a big war>a fucking GIRLBOSS protagonist>fucking not-Palpatine appears after sitting out the entire 6 movies prior not interfering, but he's really powerful and important, trust me bro>another fucking Death Star when people were already making fun of ROTJ for being too much of a repetition of the first movie>Han Solo gets out-piloted by the girlboss and then murderedI could go on and on. you are mentally ill if you think STAR WARS FANS wanted any of the big picture stuff that make up Force Awakens, or even the details. absolutely everything about that movie is wrong in the eyes of actual fans. it takes the original movie and makes every aspect of it bad while also shitting on all six movies combined by wiping away any of their impact.>Halo infinite was the "return" to classic halo to appease the fansAh, yes, classic Halo where we have one fucking biome with floating islands and then copy-pasted dungeons underground with bosses. and you move around the map with a Batman hook just like the original Halo game! very cool. also nothing in the story makes any sense or has any impact. I remember the fans asking for all this because I was one of them. we kept demanding a pseudo-open world game with a grappel hook and no fucking content or story and 343 refused. also NO SPLIT SCREEN COOP! that was one of our big demands and they gave us that, too.
>>722802792Destiny started out pretty good? Are you insane?The mmo-lite that launched with no plot, content or endgame beyond shooting into a gave for 3 hours was pretty good?
>>722816938>I WANT THE ORIGINAL MOVIES AGAIN, GIVE ME MY CHILDHOOD BACK!>WHY IS THIS PRODUCT CREATIVELY BANKRUPT SLOP????truly a confounding mystery. It's almost as if it's impossible to continue a zombie IP without the original creator if all you do is worry about appeasing angry fans.
>>722816357p.s. the pattern is clear: both Halo and Star Wars creators PRETEND to give the fans what they want, but then never do. somehow you are blaming THE FANS for this. conclusion: you are an industry shill.
Grifter thread
>>722798540Melissa (she)boon is out? Thank God that evil racist bitch deserves to be fired from life
>>722798540>chief of staff>Melissathe whole studio is rotten to the corefire everybody and get a man to do the hiring nextretards
>>722799535how do i contact xhe if i need to talk?
>>722798662should have given it to Molyneuxnow there's a man with vision
>>722817275The fans don't fucking know what they want, that's the point. Red letter media is the god of cringe gen X fandom and he was literally requesting the IP being taken of Lucas and given to JJ abrams, he and every retarded gen X and boomer fan got exactly what they asked for, corporate mandated fan wank. You have to grow up and realise what you want is impossible, you want the feeling you had when you played something fresh and new for the first time and you want it by rehashing the same shit you already experienced, all from an artist who had nothing to do with the original.Stop crying that you live in the real world where impossible things are impossible.
Rank your top 5 Halos levels, for me it's1. The Truth and Reconciliation2. The Covenant3. The Silent Cartographer4. Gravemind5. New Alexandria
>>722817263>>722817835>I WANT THE ORIGINAL MOVIES AGAIN, GIVE ME MY CHILDHOOD BACK!doing this sort of thing is what MARKETING DEPARTMENTS want. it's the safest possible investment. it has nothing to do with "angry fans" and everything to do with reliably activating neurons of normies with a trailer.>it's impossible to continue a zombie IP without the original creatormeanwhile in reality he literally offered to help and they ghosted him. not that he would have done much good since the prequels already proved he had lost the magic or more precisely the right people around him.the claim that continuing existing IPs without shitting all over it is "impossible" is baseless. it's perfectly possible to continue an existing IP if you are trying to. the problem with the movie and games industries is that the people who rise to the top never want to continue an established format! they always want to do their own thing. case in point, Jar Jar Abrams wanted to make a girlboss movie with a nigger as the love interest and an incompetent incel as the antagonist. the fact that he was saddled with the Star Wars IP - an afterthought. at no point during this process did anyone think, will this please the fans? not once. there were only two concerns:>make MY subversive kike movie that has nothing to do with Star Wars>while appeasing the marketing department by re-using superficial "Star Wars" crapand it's the same pattern with Halo 4, 5 and Infinite. 343 never wanted to make Halo games. the Halo IP is a vehicle, a HOST, for their parasitic OC.>Red letter media is the god of cringe gen X fandom and he was literally requesting the IP being taken of Lucas and given to JJ abramsRLM are wrong often. to be fair, before TFA nobody could have guessed just how evil a kike Abrams really is.
>>722811090Final Fantasy stopped being Final Fantasy when Sakaguchi left. Not to mention the company merging with Enix. Squaresoft is long gone.
Halo legitimately could have remained one of the strongest video-game IPs on the planet if it were not mishandled so poorly post-Bungie.But what sucks is that, with the direction Bungie went and the position its in now, Halo would've been run into the ground by them anyways.>Screwed without Bungie>Screwed if it would've stayed with BungieThe video-game industry has blown way out of proportion. There's way too much money, greed, and activism within it.Make video-game development studios non-profits and remove any political radicalism from the industry.
>>722799535This was probably the guy that forced tranny and gay flags in multiplayer. As a show of good faith.The next halo game should have Christian flags in multiplayer.
>>722798540>Female chief of staff leaves>Immediate bell ringing on every social media from clique members/orbiters, with her name plastered everywhere which will make sure she finds a 500k job in a snap>Male Alart director of 17 YEARS with one of the most central dev studios of the 2000's>Not a peep squeak about him.I hate the HR race.
>>722818410Why the fuck do you think they ghosted Lucas? Because the fans where whining about how retarded and incompetent he was for over a decade and they believed them over the creator himself. JJ abrams was a fucking fan, when he was directing star trek he admitted he only did it because it was kind of like starwars to him.You have this so upside down you are ensuring that every IP you love turns to shit. You cannot continue a dead IP by rehashing shit, you HAVE to change it. If bungie began life as a DOOM or half life tribute studio they would be irrelevant, no artist who is capable of making genre defining work wants to live in the remains of a creative corpse and they shouldn't.
>>722798868Tv show was orginally ME script. But that fell through. They then adapted it to halo.
Just let it die already. The dedicated fan base are all 40 with kids anyway. Microsoft deserves the failure. People were STILL willing to give them a chance with Infinite. All they had to do was not nickel and dime everything. Halo is supposed to be your killer app. Your console seller. Why muddy the water with all the micro transactions? If you have to take loses on the game, you take losses on it, the point is to get consoles in people's living rooms.
>>722802691How do you even see shit from there? You can't even properly focus in on the screen.
>>722798540its crazy how 343 hasnt made a single good game.halo has been in a doom spiral since bungie called it quits. halo peaked with 3, but odst and reach were still decent.
>>722818801>You cannot continue a dead IP by rehashing shittell it to the fucking marketing department. they are the ones who want another death star with another trench run and another mentor being killed in the second act and so on and so forth.I wanted a continuation of the stories of Luke, Leia and Han, presumably involving Han and Leia having a child and Luke being a mentor to new Jedi. I did NOT want the fucking Empire to rise from the grave or a Palpatine lookalike to appear out of nowhere or death stars and all the other rehashed shit. a story that takes place a few decades after the OT should not have a galaxy wide war going on that's indistinguishable from the last big war. nobody asked for this.the playing field was wide open. there could be stability under a former-rebel government and the bad guys would be criminal organizations, or there could be a wild west atmosphere (warlike conditions due to a power vaccuum). we needed writers who understand Star Wars' world building and genuinely want to continue the story in a way that makes sense. that's all.>JJ abrams was a fucking fanso he said. then he made a movie that shits on all of Star Wars as hard as possible. actions > words>no artist who is capable of making genre defining work wants to live in the remains of a creative corpse and they shouldn'tTHEN DON'T WORK ON A SEQUEL. you cannot have it both ways. you can't sell out and then restore your art cred by passive-aggressively ruining the franchise you sold out to, or make it all fans' fault somehow. it's your fault for signing onto a sequel you didn't want to make. you chose the bag. you're not a rebel.
>>722798540>Hire a bunch of woke leftist trannies that actively state they hate halo>Get surprised when the brand goes to shit Xbox shills lost all console cucks lost
>>722818897>Tv show was orginally ME scriptsource for this?that actually sounds real keklike, master cheeks originally being meant to be shepand that would explain that weird romance subplot
>>722819849>the marketing department directs movies and gamesyou dont understand how anything works. JJ a fucking retarded fan like you, it is impossible for any of you to imagine what you want so all you ever ask for is more of the same. When you are given it you realise its empty and hollow, when shit changes you piss yourself and cry that's its not the sameThis revisionist history is mental, the fan backlash is what killed starwars, lucas gave it away because the fans hated him and wanted someone else to make a sequel. Now you got what you asked for and you're whining that they dared make a sequel. You're so insane you think this was all purposeful and malicious and not the natural outcome of rejecting the creator and putting stupid fans in charge. Any artist who becomes a slave to a fanbase is an idiot and their inevitable downfall is their own fault.
>>722819954It's not even the fact they hate HaloIt's the fact they are willing to hire such people is telling how fucked up the leadership is
>>722819840reach was filled to the brim with red flags. the most damning ones were:>sprint>desaturated art style (all the color went away because it's a SAD story, get it? get it?! t. a bad artist)>ugly ass forge when you don't have SHADOWS to make the user-built geometry look decentthat last one just screams rush job. so fucking ugly.>>722820307>all you ever ask for is more of the sameI literally just told you what I wanted from a sequel in terms of setup and it's vastly different from the OT or the prequels. the entire world state is different so any story emerging from it would be vastly different as well. you're just ignoring everything I've said and repeating your retarded corporate artist COPE. nobody forced you to sell out. take responsibility for your own choices and stop blaming fans of the franchise YOU CHOSE to sign an employment contract with. you're like a postal worker who steals packages instead of delivering them, then claims it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to deliver packages because you were meant for greater things. then don't fucking sign a contract to be a post delivery guy. you are the creator of this problem. stop looking outside of yourself for someone to blame.
>>722799535>#OpenToWorkHAhaha how do you manage to work a corporate DIRECTOR LEVEL job for SEVENTEEN YEARS and still don't have the war chest FIRE once your dignity or ethics or whatever gets in the way? This fucking guy is bottoming for a new job when he's pushing 50 when he could be doing anything else with his life.
>>722798540>>722798662Shitlo Infinite has 3,751 players for 24h peakhttps://steamdb.info/app/1240440/charts/Shitfinite is 33th place for the most played Xbox game (MCC is 28th)Niigger 5 on the 203th place LMAOhttps://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/br
As PC player and Euro, I never really got into Halo and I don't really understand the hype.Should I try playing it on pad?
>>722820978he was a concept artist until one game ago. what do you think concept artists earn? and keep in mind they always live in some globohomo city like San Francisco where you pay to breathe.
>>722820661>I wanted luke and leia and han and yoda and wild west scifi again and old tech and slow lightsaber battles and blah blah blah so differentyou wanted more of the same, you just didn't like the inevitable creative bankrupt slop you got. You hated the prequels and wanted them to go back to the OT style, characters and themes. What would have actually worked is fast forwarding, killing off most of the main cast bar the droids and doing something completely fresh, ideally what Lucas had planned which was the task of building a new society, not rehashed wild west bullshit again. artists go where the money is until they have enough clout to make their own shit, the money is where the fans are, the fans are stupid and destroy every franchise they become obsessed with, the franchise dies and the loop repeats.
>>722801063>former Bungie era dev>concept artist since ODSThttps://www.mobygames.com/person/117561/glenn-israel/He was not part of the golden era Halo.
>>722800346You're right. The only fun I ever had with Halo was couch play with friends on the fucking OG Xbox. It was like, UT but you could punch the people shit talking you. It was always a terrible game as far as FPS went, a passable game for tactical shooters and a novelty for vehicles.
>>722800473nice
>>722821000The PC versions are not really worth it
>>722804370Bungie became super fragmented after Halo 3. ODST and Reach were forced projects to come out of M$ claws. And some devs were making Destiny and others were working on ODST and Reach.
>>722798662>How do you fuck up an ip so badly.keep hiring liberal nepotists and outsource your (horrible) technical labor to literal third world slaves
>>722821000You had to be there.
>>722821564I finished Quake 1 properly for the first time like 20 years after release and I loved it.For Halo I just can't get into it
>>722798662>How do you fuck up an ip so badly.That's what happens when you listen to shareholders for over a decade.I'll say it as many times as it needs to be said: you do not hate shareholders enough
>>722801126Pts 1 and maybe 3 are true, but MS doesn't have to give a shit about Blackrock money. They're equal to, or even a tier above, Blackrock.
>>722821636Halo is more a party game than arena shooter. You have to be there with your friends on split-screen and LAN parties eating pizza and mountain dew.
>>722821124>wild west scifi againwe already had big cities, a water planet, a water-filled inside of a planet that you could travel all the way through, asteroid caves, WW2 battles, clones, every silly monster you can imagine. what the fuck would you add to Star Wars that isn't in some way a repetition AND doesn't retcon / destroy the lore?>slow lightsaber battleswe already had fast ones, slow ones and everything in between. and it's Star Wars so light sabers will be there. what the fuck would you do with it that can't be framed as a repetition? nothing. such a pathetic bluff.>What would have actually worked is fast forwarding, killing off most of the main cast bar the droids and doing something completely freshyou want to keep R2 and C3PO??? now that's fan service.
>>722821840I'm talking about the campaign
Of all the studios nutela and spencer could've killed, these guys somehow survive.
>>722819213Have you ever played Halo? You don't need to see anything. Pull trigger when you think there's something there. No harm if there's not.
>>722799535>glenn israelWe are living in a simulation
>>722821926All things considered, technically this the most experience studio with Halo they have :^)
>>722821636>For Halo I just can't get into itit was console slop even at release and was seen as such, but it was still "good" in its own way.I mean if you play a legit version of Halo now, and not a remastered/remade version, you can see how terrible it was, doesn't age well.
>>722798540>think it's someone from Bungie who didn't leave>mfw 343i has been a plague for 17 years
>>722803517Pitiable shill attempt
>>722798662>Microsoft overworking Bungie to constantly make the next big Halo game>Bungie sells Halo away (also becomes shit afterwards)>Microsoft for some reason decides to make 343i be composed of only people who fucking HATE Halo>both companies are composed of retards, feminists, dei hires, and pajeets who all hate or don't care about HaloHalo died with Reach.I cannot fucking believe 343i has existed and been ruining Halo for over 18 years now.
Friendly reminder Infinite is good now, actually.
>>722821918>you want to keep R2 and C3PO??? now that's fan serviceno it isn't you fucking moron. Lucas said from the beginning he wanted them to be the main characters and logistically its a neat link to have an immortal thread between entirely different generations of characters, I dont personally give a shit about a gay robot or r2d2. Narrative structure benefits from an unobtrusive link to a prequel saga. What you want is all the same people reprising the same main character roles.The prequels were completely different in tone and setting to the original trilogy, now you're pretending like it was exactly the same and actually they've done everything and there's no option but to return to the same old boring shit. Just come out and admit you're another brain dead fanboy who wanted them to return to the OT but now you're embarrassed to say it after the sequel trilogy shat the bed.
>>722798662halo has always been shit, you were just too stupid to realize this.
>>722800060She's gone already? Thank the Lord Almighty. People saw that studio teaser fluff piece and were having absolutely 0 of whatever she is supposed to be. Chuds unironically won
>>722823189I hope we're thinking of the same person because the one I'm thinking of is another sheeboon that looks exactly like her who wrote her college thesis on the spread of HIV in "disadvantaged communities". No I'm not joking
>>722799535>Glenn Israel
>>722823006Ur a fucking retardHalo was always the only other shooter besides counterstrike
>>722798662Well same way they destroyed Xbox. They put the people in charge who did not understand the product, placed themselves in an echo chamber and did not listen to anyone, bought into a stupid marketing hype to attract more customers but instead alienated their core audience.
>Has literally one IP that kept their console running for 20 years>fuck it up along with everything elseHow the FUCK are microsoft so fucking bad at managing there ONE (1) IP that has ever mattered
>>722799535what site is this? i want to read other of his posts to check what his ethics and values are
>>722800878No they said never forget so I haven't forgotten.
>>722799349/thread
>>722822919>they have to botch the game with features and gamemodes from past halo titles to please the live service crowddead game
>>722799434It's simpler than that: Microsoft are exec business people, Bungie were tech creative people. When their contract ended with MS, they quickly created a company that would take over the IP. Said new company only got Microsoft exec business people along with the tech people from Bungie that MS managed to seduce with money. Of course the only reason Bungie left was because of how controlling MS were and how annoying the business people were becoming.Try to make exec business people care about creativity and worthwhile tech.
>>722800947Didn't they hire a peace&love fag who hates guns to work on a game featuring... guns?
>>722800231weak men create hard times...
>>722807324star wars tripped and fell because they strawmanned the ideal consumer instead of the regular sw fan.
>>722798662same way the people managing xbox fucked up everything else. these people have no fucking clue what they're doing, they have no idea who their customers are, they have no idea what their products are
You would need to be clinitaclly insane to expect a good halo game after halo 3 *looks at you*
>>722799067Grim is too soft of a word for this. Did the paycheck grabbing tech bros of 343 finally play another video game and decided to copy Capcom? I really hope it flops and they don't end up remaking everything but with UE5 "polish" and diverging gameplay "for the better"
>>722799535I guess they wanted him to scrap all of his black girl power ideas.
>>722800069So not a key dev
In my head canon Master Chief is still in cryo sleep with Cortana on his side in that broken friggate shipEvery game that includes him after this event is just a non-canon what-if sceneario
>>722825638Even for "art director" his ass worked on the washed uncool Halo products
>>722825664thisif the original team didn't work on it it's not canon
>>722813798Not art director on these, just a concept artist. He became director with infinite because he stayed long enough for the paycheck.
>this time xbox will surely deliver>they don't>this time xbox will surely be less woke>they double down on itBeing a fan must be exhausting
>>722800696A GAME FOR EVERYONEIS A GAME FOR NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
halo isn't even that interesting of an ip. it had success at first because it was an impressive tech showcase for the original xbox. but much more interesting game concepts came out since then.
>>722805424>shitty spin-off gamesLike H3 odst and reach?
>>722805424If you want WOKE gone, just give the IP to another studio untainted by it, because whenever there's a speck of infection, severing the arm won't cut it.
>>722821924Same deal, it's more introspective alone but when you're playing co-op with your pals it's a genuine blast.
>>722798662Apart from Hitman is there a single IP that hasn't been murdered by incompetent retards and greedy stakeholders 3 times over?
>>722818563Game companies should be divided in two, the exec corpo side shouldn't interfere with the creatives but they could boss around the code monkeys. The moment marketeers interfere with development, that's when the game ends up pozzed as shit.
I'm the only person on the goddamn planet that likes chief armor in halo 4
>>722822919BTB is one of my favorite modes, but every time I try to play it on Infinite the match just devolves into the other team spawn camping us with Wasps and Banshees from players who have like 5k hours in the game while my side is filled with newly installed Mexicans. It got extremely repetitive and annoying so I just stopped.
>>722798650Depends what you mean by "Fan". I still enjoy and like Bungie's Halo games, but I also have no hope, nor interest in 343 and the future of the franchise.
>>722825216The regular SW fan is still in these threads arguing that the prequels are dog shit and that no actually they didn't listen to the fans enough and they should have ignored a decade of their Lucas character assassination, then given him the keys to the sequel. You people are disgusting on a pretty profound level, you fucked everything up and instead of admitting it you blame them for not doing enough of the thing that killed it.
>>722822368>Halo died with Reach.This, I honestly couldn't care less what comes after since I don't consider anything by 343i/halo studios canon or worth a damn.
>>722798540halo is dead. stop it
>>722827876reach was the last decent game
>>722821000Early Halo was like vanilla WoW, you had to be there to experience it back when co-op/online/multiplayer was still budding and fresh.
>>722827876you know shay was funny? the infighting with bungie they hated halo so much they sold it to those faggots at 343
>>722821000you should have been born in the late 80s you eurotrash kid
>>722799067I kinda suspect they're gonna fuck up CE on MCC somehow in favor of the new demake, microshitsoft would stoop that low.
>>722798662microsoft had a goose that laid golden eggsso, in their immense greed and short sightedness, they gutted the goose and rifled through its entrails to get at the eggs they assumed would be infinite, only to find shit
>>722798540>The game that has been dogshit for 30 years is...uh... still dogshitah
>>722798540HIRE MORE WORTHLESS BLACK VAGINAS
>>722822956>What you want is all the same people reprising the same main character roles.makes sense to keep the time jump similar between each two trilogies. and if you're gonna do that you will have the same characters again. the prequels reused virtually all locations from the OT and any character who would chronologically make sense. are you saying it was a mistake for the prequels not to feature Yoda, Obi Wan, Boba Fett (!), C3PO, R2D2, the Emperor, Luke's uncle in the desert... every established character that could be featured was featured.you want to simultaneously paint that as a mistake for a sequel trilogy AND defend Lucas' direction with the prequels. you're grasping at straws to rationalize your hatred of common sense audience expectations because you are a sell-out fake artist who wants to parasite on the popularity of big IP without acknowledging the people who make it POPULAR, the established audience. you need to demonize the audience to avoid feeling guilt for doing wrong against the audience. you invert morality. you can't accept the role of the perpetrator (somebody who leeches off of the goodwill of paying customers while intentionally destroying what those customers love) so you declare that it's impossible to do anything else. now you're the victim who was forced to ruin the popular IP, hell, they begged you to ruin it (in this last step you grasp at straws to distort what the customers actually asked for until it resembles what they got).all artists do this, you insist. another cope to dodge the guilt of being a disgusting parasite.>The prequels were completely different in tone and setting to the original trilogythe tone of the sequels is also vastly different. but you have to pretend it's the same, just like you have to pretend people wanted a resurrected empire, another death star and Luke being absent from his own story. slimy, dishonest coward.
>>722798650Hi, I love Halo Infinite, I've been playing since Halo CE. It's not so hard to understand, Pokémon fans haven't had a good game since Omega Ruby and they're still kicking around
>>722798540So the people who been shitting the bed for 10+ years are leaving?Good.>>722798662>How do you fuck up an ip so badly.Easy, put a far left feminist activist cunt in charge whose only goal is to fire men and hire more women.
>>722799512But Microsoft already has a PC in most people's living rooms.
>>722800231Yup, this right here is the reason. Fuck that bald faggot
>>722821156But ODST is the best Halo game?
>>722818563I'd go so far as to say that having a studio in the west or America specifically is the main culprit, due to how politically schizophrenic it gets every decade or so. How the fuck do you expect to maintain a strong IP if there's a constant revolving door of jewish equity firms, DEI/ESG mandates, insane leftist activists, diversity hires, nepobabies etc for over a decade. Literally nothing can withstand that much cancer without going terminal for so long.
>>722828812reach was the last good game
>>722800878>Saudisfunny way to spell Jews
halo is dead get over it
>>722829030the Jews are jealous of the richest people in the world
>>722828509>equating yourself to pokemon fansNot doing yourself any favors there
>>722829030Cousins
>>722829030Saudis are in bed with the Jews who own the US anyway you retarded cutfag mutt.Who the fuck are you kidding.
>>722829030I hope the prince of Dubai fixes Nintendo
>>722829225if I were that rich I'd baron bed with everyone too. I'd buy up all the game studios and remove the lgbt dei faggotry
>>722798540Microsoft first party studio having leadership issues? Say it ain't so!
>>722829364it's a heart breaker
>>722829225They're not wrong about goys.
I recently realized that I had somehow never played Halo 4 (or it's so bad I don't remember anything from it besides the Didact and the Forerunners) so I went to see if it was on sale - and it wasn't even for sale. Every other game was available except Halo 4. What gives?
>>722828434>schizophrenic dribble about how im secretly a 343 employeeYou didn't ask for judicious reuse of old locations and characters with an entirely new spin, you asked for space western which is the OT again (and the Mandalorian, and the shitty bobba fett tv series, and every piece of creatively bankrupt OT star wars fan wank ever made). The prequels were not a space western, they had moved to the final days of a successful empire.A sequel trilogy wasn't even necessary, the story had largely concluded so if you're going to re-vive it you do it with something completely different.Episode 7 was a re-skinned episode 4, everything was exactly the same.You killed it and you are desperate to blame anyone else for it. At least with halo you can blame it on 343 because bungie already abandoned it, you caused lucas to abandon starwars.
>>722827542Never paid for any star wars product, pirated their games and watched the movies at a friend's place who pirated them.
>>722828662The hate fuck would be world record worthy.
>>722829448The more I browse /pol/ the more I understand the truth to that.
>>722830502Honestly, what other western nation besides the US circumcizes their newborns en masse?Muttland is a kike owned proxy state.
>>722830629Israel is a Western nation, so that's two.
>>722798662>be apple>be in dumpster in 90s>have this thing called halo or whatever to show off in 1999, doesn't matter apple computers are premiere products of late 90s>give it to microsoft>jobs brings apple back with ipod>mac OS X starts mogging windows around windows XP>microsoft shitz pants cause vista is a failure, time to throw money at that piece of shit xbox thing, bigbrain gates knows xbox is a piece of shit and exited microsoft with vista release>accelerate halo and xbox marketing cause cloud era is a ways out and bezos is gaining on them>xbox goes to shit post halo 3>apple wins for decade plus with just iphone>microsoft is dumping xbox and begging rest of tech industry for AI to save windowsSimple as. In alternate timeline apple halo would probably be bigger then roblox or fortnite and the timmy shitflinging would be even funnier. Imagine a mac OS exclusive halo.
>>722798662I think never diversifying on the game genres was very important. Star wars had every game you can possible squeeze out of that simple universe from racing to rpg and you play as almost everything from Jedi to rebel to scoundrel. Halo only has fps campaigns and an RTS, only playing as a spartan and only once as an odst. I can safely say everyone would play an ODST 2 where you just drop wherever and kill aliens, oh wait it's called helldivers 2
>>722831179I would have played the shit out of a halo space sim. Halo as a universe isn't as expansive as starwars but there was potential for more exploration that almost any other major gaming IP of its era, possibly ever. The fact that it didn't even expand to a real RTS but to a casual console rts is insult to injury
>>722831179>I can safely say everyone would play an ODST 2 where you just drop wherever and kill aliens, oh wait it's called helldivers 2Good point.
Imo Halo 4 is the worst game. The moment you start it you can feel it was made by a different dev because of the greater focus on cinematics and story.
>>722798540Halo has been dead for over 15 years. No one gives a fuck
They should whore out Halo at this point. Give it to anyone who wants to make a game like Warhammer.
Halo died over a decade agohalf the staff spend all day posting on resetera about tranny shit
>>722828307if they fuck up MCC I will never forgive them
>>722832971Halo 5 is worse because they replace Master Chief with a black man
>>722829510come on Rajesh, the entirety of MCC is on sale for $10 every month, surely you can afford it
>>722800060What the fuck does a UX research manager do?
>>722798540wow, i can't believe switching to unreal engine didn't solve microsoft's crippling management problems
>>722821000there is no hype anymore. you missed out on it.
>>722821000checkedalso, all the faggots saying that you had to be there during its peak are full of shitMCC is still the most enjoyable gaming experience you can get for the price
>>722832971>cinematics and storythat's literally what made Halo stand out in the first placethe 2nd game already felt like a soap opera with the 2 shifting protagonists
>Former Halo boss publicly says there are leadership issues and leaves the company>HOLY SHIT I CAN CONFIRM WITH MY ANONYMOUS AND TOP SECRET SOURCES THAT HALO STUDIOS HAS LEADERSHIP ISSUESThey're all just attention whores
>>722799535The games being used to shill AI isn't it.
>>722799535>Israel>art directorGood riddance I'd say
>>722836849probably, Microsoft is an AI company now, when the bubble pops they are dead.
>>722798540taking bets on the studio releasing a statement that says "we learned from Halo Infinite's mistakes and wholeheartedly promise it won't happen again"
>>722799535So what's the reason he got fired, replaced with AI or a black tranny or was it for political disagreements?
>>722838936They would never.
>>722799535https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5jM-aXY--g
>>722839126good god, it literally has been the go to for every single release after 3
Is there a single point in history when Halo wasn't in some kind of trouble? The first game was hastily thrown together after a major change in direction.
>>722823838Microsoft is all in on 0 hour contract hires and has been for years now. The early Xbox division was free from this faggotry, and you can really tell when big daddy up top got involved during the late 360 gen with the forcing of Kinect, the Xbox One etc. That's the point where the quality of the brand tumbles off a cliff.
>>722838937He's the art director so 99% chance it was a mandatory AI usage order from Microsoft
>>722798540We’ve known that studio has been a shitshow for like 13 years now and renaming it didn’t fix anything Maybe contracting half your workforce is also a bad idea
>>722798540Isn't their next game a Halo 1 remake with no multiplayer? Are they insane thinking that won't bomb?
The good xbox died when Peter Moore left, prove me wrong.
>>722840164I'm sure that's just game devs in general. But old Bungie actually cared about their craft so people like them will always find ways to make it work. 343 just cared about their paychecks and it shows
>>722798662Microsoft went full retard and just didn't buy Bungie outright.
>>722841332sounds like they dodged a bullet
>>722798662women, and wannabe wommen (aka trannies)
>>722841332I cant imagine money was the reason Microsoft let them go. They probably threatened to quit unless they were given independence and the price they paid for independence was the halo IP. If you're in that situation there's nothing to be gained from acquiring them but you get halo for free if you let them go.
>>722841790actually im retarded microsoft always had halo, didn't they already own them?
more like fart director
>>722799535I can almost guarantee you this is because they wanted to incorporate AI somewhere. KWAB
>>722841332MS probably tried but Bungie insisted to be free so they wouldn't be forced to make the same game for the next 10 years.And then went and did just that anyway.
LmaoThe human resource and DEI representive niggeress at halo studio (343 industry) was be fired only two week after Microsoft had shadow banned the kikes supremacist government from using their azure brand server solutionA kikes supremacist Dev had followed her few hour ago It's a very good thing after allThe mossad crying babies and Black Crimes Matter niggeress has been banned forever from gaming industryGoodbye, the kosher nostra
>>722834671Wait, Halo 4 is part of the MCC? You mean I already own it? I went to Gamestop for nothing?
>>722841935Bungie was acquired by Microsoft before Halo CE launched, originally it was a Mac game. They then later told Microsoft that they'd refuse to develop Halo 3 unless they could go independant, which Microsoft agreed to under the condition that 1. they got to keep the Halo IP 2. Bungie made two additional Halo games (ODST/Reach) while they put together a new Halo studio and 3. they maintained a minority stake in Bungie.
>>722834762False, she was a human resource worker and a woke retard in Chief from Activision blizzard DEI counsil Good night for this ugly niggeress from Black Crimes Matter mouvement and good luck to her from find a news jobs into this industry, filthy anti white racist whoreWhen a niggers extremist will be going out, everyone are wins
>>722798662By trying to make Master Chief games instead of Halo gamesThere's an entire universe in the middle of a galactic war in the Halo franchise, and yet the only motherfucker doing literally anything of interest is apparently Master Chief
>>722798662DEIshitAny other answer is pure fucking cope
>>722798662White men have never mismanaged anything in the history of the planet, do you know whose fault it is: women and negroes. Probably wheelchair bound negroe women.
>least obvious /pol/ thread on this board
>>722845447>waa mommy the /pol/tards are sticking up for the aryans again!
>>722799349Same thing that happened to WoW
>>722845447make a good game then. it's been over 20 years and millions of dollars to say the least.
Keep seethe, the totally woke retardSnoy Corporation had brought a empty Shell and totally woke shit with their shitty answer to Activision/Microsoft dealRest in piss n sheeeet, Bungie studio (1991- 2022)
>>722798662No Flood game. That's why.
>>722845150Keep seethe ..... My Little niggersYou had absolutly did nothing since the cave men era, filthy sub human
>>722798662Halo became a slave to trends shareholders wanted to chase in the market instead of a frontrunner breaking new ground built by hardcore nerds and geeks who wanted it to be the best shooter they ever played. Console shooters were inherently a risk, free control vehicle based combat was unusual at the time, matchmaking and clans were ahead of their time, forge was an incredibly powerful user friendly map customization tool for a console shooter, etc. etc. Halo was taking a ton of risks that look very normal now because it stuck the landing on so many of them.Beyond just not innovating for over a decade I think it's very telling that 343 totally misunderstood the appeal of one of the simplest protagonists in history and fucked him up game after game.
>>722845985You had truthWhen a flood infestation zombie survival standalone game mode like Treyarch did with call of duty world at war (2007) and modern warfare zombie (2023)
>>722798540Boone leaving is only a good thing
>>722798650I will be a fan of Bungie Halo until the day I dieSeries ended for me when I read that shitty Greg Bear non-fan fiction.
>>722838649Its not a bubble but trying to brute force it in and fully automate the creative process is such a horrible idea and it's going to be hilarious to see it blow up in their faces. I will not be shocked if this CE remake is completely bugged to where they say they can't fix shit without redoing it again from the ground up. The rumors about it running on a unreal/blam system already sound like a nightmare
almost 4 years of patches to get mcc remasters in a decent state, bad halo 4 terrible halo 5 bad halo infinite. THIS one is IT yasss halo dev queens. faggot cock sucking microsoft, die
>>722809062Kitase didn't even work on Final Fantasy until V, Nomura was barely involved in IV, and Nojima and Toriyama both started at VII, the fuck are you talking about? >>722810461 is roughly right in that I think the last time anyone from the Famicom era was involved was XII and they were only directing after that sperg Matsuno ran away. A decent portion of the earliest staff are still at the company but one produces SaGa, another overseas Seiken Densetsu, and the sprite artist just works on retro stuff and remakes (technically she might be credited on one of the modern games if it uses sprites in its UI somewhere) FFVIIR is only made by a small part of the original team in different roles.Post-Bungie Halo has had a number of people who worked on Bungie Halo involved and still sucked shit because if it's not the right people in the right place just having someone who was there doesn't solve anything.
>>722822368>for over 18 years now.It hasn't been that long, right?...Right?
>>722844273it's part of the whole package if you have that, but they allow you to buy MCC games separately
>>722845026The DEI was the final nail in the coffin. The IP has been suffering for years before that with a lack of innovation in pretty much all categories. So naturally people got bored and left before all the pride and gay shit really killed the series
>>722845020go back to halo 5 then and play as the main character Niggerlocke, faggot
>>722800346It had a good atmosphere and mood. Sure, the gameplay was basic as shit and super braindead, but it was still enjoyable anyways.
>>722800878you mean 11\09 you dirty commie
>>722800346it was literally a consolefag's first FPS but CE and 2 were still pretty good.
>>722801708They were doing just fine with the original Xbox and the 360. Then they fucked it all up, snubbed their Japanese studios, stopped getting good exclusives, and turned into faggots.
>>722820307You say that it's because of the fans getting what they want that franchises go to shit, yet none of the franchises being talked about have ever actually tried to give the fans what they wanted. Curious.
>>722847398Why can't I find it in the Xbox store then? It says not for sale, when I can get every other Halo game.
>>722821000MCC (excluding 4) is good, play it on mkb, playing any shooter on pad is moronic
>>7228180961. The Library2. The Library3. The Library4. The Library5. The Library
>>722849865>none of the franchises being talked about have ever actually tried to give the fans what they wantedWhere does this retarded conclusion come from? the only thing these publicly traded companies care about is money, they make the most money by giving the fans what they want, all they ever do is give them what they ask for. Halo infinite is not the result of some grand renegade creative vision, it's absolute capitulation to the fan, so is episode 7.This is turning into a retarded argument where you pretend that the things that fans have been explicitly asking for weren't implemented to your liking therefore the attempt was not made when it clearly was. just because it was shit doesnt mean the idea didn't originate from you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bi-k2bd38They gave you everything you cringe morons wanted.
>>722798662My 2 cents: corporate over management. Look at behind the scenes videos of game studios from the 90s and 2000s, they are these cozy nooks where passionate dorks are making games they want to play, and while they’re still under corporate management and deadlines, the atmosphere in these videos feels mellow, it feels like they’ve been left alone to make a game, and with this kind of environment you get franchise makers like Halo, Gears, Crash, Spyro, etc. Everything is so micromanaged now a days. There are check lists, mandates, agendas, billionaire executives all have an idea in their head of what a multiplayer game is now and how to capitalize off it. Story’s can’t be written unless insane politically motivated check boxes are ticked. TL;Dr: too many cooks in the kitchen.
>>722852230you are conflating fans with consumers
>>722850598because you're retarded
>>722824913>Try to make exec business people care about creativity and worthwhile techi will try, thank you for the advice oba-san
>>722853041Its an arbitrary distinction in this context, consumers are mindless npcs who adopt the opinions of the fanbase (who are themselves NPCs that adopt the opinions of e-celebs fans). Eventually the red letter media criticisms of starwars became both nerd and consumer opinion. When nerd media does well it is because it is first accepted by the fanbase who then generates a wave of FOMO that attracts the general consumer.you cant look at that cringe YouTube video and tell me that wasn't made by a fan, that it wasn't common thinking among the fanbase and that it wasn't implemented by JJ.
>>722798540>fuck up Halo so bad you reboot the franchise so you can make the game your own way and you still can't do it right
The fact that they think they can do a modern warfare style reboot with Halo is so out of touch and braindead. The only way they could get away with this is if they could make a fun game
>>722798662https://vocaroo.com/12Q8g6JukLoQ
Actual question, how hard is it really to make a shooter with 11 maps, 10 gamemodes, 20 weapons, 9 vehicles, a map editor/builder, and a full fledged campaign? Is this amount of content considered abnormal for a game?
>>722856245In current year? Literally impossible.
>>722798662I'm convinced at this point that the only way to keep an IP from going to shit is to keep all the rights in your own hands, even if you're completely on your own.Look at Toby Fox, he'll just keep doing his own thing forever and it'll probably be fine. If he had a bunch of co-creators one of them would probably troon out, insert marxism into the game, somehow claim copyrights for Deltarune and force Toby to make a new series under a new name.
>>722802691
>>722847421You do understand that DEI doesn't just mean that black people exist, but that you hire incompetent people in order to fulfill quotas and that incompetent people fuck everything up, right?
>>722852007BASED
>>722802007And when did it come out?
What the fuck is so hard in creating dumb fun Halo game? I dont get it.
>>722798662believing in infinite growth means you disregard the idea of alienation they already had their fans, so they assumed they would always stick around so they focused on trying to attract everyone else
>>722813119based and heraclituspilled
>>722859579some people are actually bad, as in "did do something wrong" and don't deserve a halo
>>722847301I was specifically referring to FFVIIR. Many of the people working on it also worked on the original game, in particular the writers, and VIIR's writing is a fucking disgrace.
