don't personally care for collectathatongas. impossible lair was good though. shouhld make another one of those

>>722823464
>playing you-a retard-ee.
>now with more rere
No

JonTron won

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>>722823685
He did. Playtonic is still seething.

>>722823464
What's the difference between this and the original release? Is it just graphics? Because that was the least of their concerns.

>>722824781
Based on what I heard and saw, you start with all the moves, the opening is very different with an added tutorial area, levels expanded from the start, maps and fast travel points.
That's all I've heard.

>>722823464
I already played YL to completion, I don't think it's good enough to warrant a replay, even with the updated graphics and the few more things they added.

The marketing is shit, this plays more like a reimagined version than a remaster. It's pretty fun so far

These guys should give up, seriously. Banjo and other Rare games are only relevant today because Rare was basically alone in providing something playable to a community of 20 million American consumers who had no choice because they chose the wrong console when they were teenagers.
Today their heirs are producing trash after trash. People who think Impossible Lair is a good platformer, for example, have never played a fucking Mario World romhack, because anything made by amateurs in some shithole far surpasses that piece of shit.
I bought Impossible Lair for $3 in the last sale and I still regret it, a game that is fundamentally flawed, typical of Europeans who don't understand video games even in the most basic way, because they developed their knowledge in the field with computers dedicated to spreadsheets instead of arcades.

>>722827370
I've seen people claim they enjoyed The Impossible Lair more than Tropical Freeze sometimes lmao

>>722827370

wot did u say about me zed speccy m8

>>722824781
>What's the difference between this and the original release?
the same difference between this thread and the one op made yesterday

I'm hyped to get it in a humble bundle in 3 years

>>722823464
This shit so ass

>>722824781
better controls, better pacing, tons of qol, new type of collectible, double the pagies

>>722823517
DKCR and TF clone
But damn was it good

No. from What I saw of the original game the stages are too big like Tooie.

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>5/10
Ohnonononononononono

>>722832254
the comments on the yt review are pretty butthurt, a lot of people shitting on it without being able to debate the points the review raises. lmao

>>722823464
Yes, it seems like most issues the original had have been fixed

>>722832254
every other review seems to be positive thoughever
>the video starts out by saying 3d platformers are outdated
the fuck?

>>722823464
the first game was the definition of mediocre. A 6/10. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t magically make it better

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>>722832254
???

>>722832779
I don't really trust Travis' opinion, he gave Borderlands 4 an 8 and Concord a 7.

>>722823464
I'm not convinced the game can be fixed without completely redesigning the levels

>>722830569
But did they fix the terrible gay empty worlds?

>>722832892
well they're not empty anymore if that's what you're asking

>>722832738
I'd say the original game was more like a 4/10, while what I've played of the demo and what I'm reading online seems to indicate this is a solid 6/10. Does nothing creative, doesn't got much charm or variety and feels like a hodgepodge of conflicting design choices at times, but it's not terrible.

>>722832892
Kind of. The worlds are less empty, but not much more better designed.

>>722832779
7 is so insanely high for the original game. I would maybe give it a 4.

>>722832953
>>722832930
I played the demo and enjoyed it and I still just think there's no way to fix Capital Cashino, possibly the most half-finished and slapped-together 3D platformer level ever.

So will tooka laylee ever happen

>>722833063
I saw a reviewer who hated the original version say they loved the new casino, I'm about to enter the second world now but I really think the first world is really good now with the changes, gonna share my thoughts on second world when I complete it.

>>722827370
Bait used to be good, how will zoomers ever do alone without us to babysit ""them""?

>>722824781
Unlock All cheat active at the start and they removed pagies from the Rextro minigames.

>>722833317
they didn't remove pagies from the rextro minigames, they removed the minigames and gave rextro an entire new captain toad-esque game.

Unironically been a pretty good year for banjo style games
>donkey kong bananza
>banjo kazooie the corrupted jiggies
>banjo kazooie nostalgia 64
>yooka replayee

>>722833389
the funniest shit about that to me is that minigame was designed by the fucking community manager, i shit you not. they let her go because she was so bad at her job and now she works at some game developer touting web3 and blockchain shit

>>722833434
i tried the first new rextro minigame and it was pretty good
do you mean the original minigames?

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>>722833506
No, I mean the Rextro minigame. I think it's hilarious they got the damn CM to design for Replaylee, and that people seem to like it better than the main game. What does that say about the designers there?

>>722833818
based playtonic

>>722833818
This is the second woman I've seen that they laid off
Did they really just lay off all their women kek

>>722823464
Not really. I kinda feel like the effort it took to make this remaster would have been better spent on just creating a new collectathon. This game and it's levels just kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.

>>722827843
It actually is better than tropical freeze. Impossible lair is basically DKC4 without donkey kong.

>their solution to fixing worlds 3-5 was to have all worlds be expanded from the start, add more pagies, and add an NPC that lets you fast travel/buy hints
>they slightly altered some songs for some reason
>Capital B's animations are straight up bugged and he glitches out during the in-game cutscenes before and during the final battle
>drops on Steam
>Switch 2 version capped at 30fps
>prone to audio bugs and fucking crashing
Yeah, great job.
Great game.

>>722823565
What

>>722824405
if he wasn't /yourguy/ you'd be saying she's a tattooed pig

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>>722823464
No. They should have just made another sequel instead of trying to polish a turd. I get that they don't want the first entry to be 'bad' or whatever, but bubsys games were shit, and the new one looks good. So clearly the old games don't tie down the new ones that much.

>>722832738
>>722835816
>lipstick on a pig
>tatoos on a pig
I think some of you just want to whore up a pig

>>722834620
>>It actually is better than tropical freeze
Hell no.

>>722827843
>>722834620
>>722836035
Impossible lair definitely has the better start at least, tf’s first world does not leave a good first impression

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Don't make me tap the sign.

I’m a reviewer I played most of the game and the embargo is up so I can talk. They actually overhauled the entire game it’s really fun to play. You get all powers from the start so no backtracking you can do the entire region in one go. They got rid of the broken flying mechanic and put a temporary 10 second flying powerup near places you need to fly. I think there’s more cutscenes they’re still kinda bland but the first tutorial and cutscenes are all newly added. The levels generally flow better now and they removed a lot of wasted space. They added quck travel markers to make backtracking easier and you can pay them coins to reveal the jiggy locations. Also they removed the expanding region mechanic the whole region is unlocked from the start. They replaced rextro games with new games but they’re just puzzle games they’re simple but not worth buying the game for. It’s worth buying if you want to play the whole game again it’s pretty fun.

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>>722836110
>tf’s first world does not leave a good first impression
>first level combines platforming and shows off the underwater sections with plenty of areas to leap out of the water
>brand new minecart gimmicks shown off
>vertical level introducing Cranky and his pogo mechanic
>one of the best silhouette levels
>an actual good DK boss fight
The fuck are you on about? Meanwhile Impossible Lair has you start with the Impossible Lair and then everything blends together because the vast majority of its levels look like this.

>>722836516
>The levels generally flow better now and they removed a lot of wasted space
They literally did not. They just threw in fast travel and a shitload more brainless pagies. I want to know what the people defending the "new" casino are smoking because it's just as bad as the original.

>>722836612
you did not play the game

>>722836490
Oh damn, I actually looked this up myself just to prove Yooka-Laylee really wasn't a proper Banjo successor but having an image is even better. I think TIL actually did have more DKC devs on it than YL had Banjo devs, though it's still rubbish.

>>722836545
Most levels are either a town, a factory or a forest containing a whole bunch of windmills, conveyor belts and buzzsaws and mostly having those ugly imps as enemies. It's such a samey, repetitive and forgettable game.

I thought this series died when they took out johntron why is it still getting anything?

>>722837038
Playtonic is running out of money and they are desperate but also can't afford to make a new game.

>>722834073
They infused themselves with DEI and started a publishing arm to fund woke projects over the past few years. They all failed and Platonic had to cut the fat

>talk to the first bookmark in world 1 on controller
>game locks up and i gotta close the game with task manager

jebus chrust playtonic

>>722832779
Differnet reviewers

>>722837180
works on my machine :v)

>>722827843
Liked impossible lair more. Overworld is kinda fun to mess around in. Reminds me of dkc 3 in that regard.
The new dkc games always felt downgrades from originals. Then this cheaply made clone actually improved in some areas.
I guess it helps that it's newish ip, so it didn't really have to stand against anything.
Original dkc games are some of my favorite games ever, but the new games were big let downs for me.
While impossible lair was surprisingly good and I had better time with it because I wasn't constantly seething how they "ruined" dkc like I did when playing the new dkc games. Yea I'm biased but what can you do. Opinions are opinions.

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>>722836873
It is LITERALLY still the emptiest world in the game. Spamming the burst roll still takes a while because they REALLY needed to show off those super wacky giant portraits of Capital B surrounded by stanchions and the worthless giant fountain.

>>722836024
ESL-retard-kun it is a figure of speech. It means even if you WOULD put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig and not any more better than without. Get it now?

>>722837251
so if i took tropical freeze and slapped my OC donkey man in there, you would enjoy it. ok well it's good that you're self-aware about your tism at least

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>>722827370
Based.

>>722832779
Two people have different opinions? AAAAAAHH IM GOING INSANE!

I put on the banjo shorts as soon as I got them

>>722837251
>actually improved in some areas.
Where? It certainly didn't when it came to level and world design. IL is somehow more generic despite being a smaller game. Both it and TF also handle rolling almost identically, in a way vastly different from DKC. Is it just based entirely on the eponymous Impossible Lair? Because it's a decent gauntlet.

>>722837038
>why is it still getting anything?
replaylee is like their hail mary
they've been bleeding workers so it's easier to redo their first game than make a completely new one

>>722827843
ngl i dont really care for the retro dk games that much due to the worse feeling gameplay compared to the snes games

>>722837437
A 5, though? That's abysmal for any game.

>>722837861
but you're fine with TIL's cheap presentation, lack of polish and floaty controls? aight then

I got IL on sale and thought the music was bad. I wasn't the biggest fan of TF (I liked it but it didn't blow my mind) but the music is that game was superb.

more like yooka ure gaylee

>>722838364
I never played it I'm not even that anon. I should play TIL just to get an opinion though.

>>722837861
Yooka Laylee literally copies Tropical Freeze's movement though
Saying it's better because it's not DK is fucking stupid

I thought it was a remaster, so it's a remake?

>>722838431
Ah that explains it. I actually bought it figuring "well I love me some Tropical Freeze, and it's only 40 quid, I'm sure it's fine" only to hate it. It feels like a worse Tropical Freeze in every way, except maybe the overworld.

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>>722823464
I would literally have more fun just getting a 2nd job as overnight office cleaner than ever playing another N64 style collectathon platformer again. There is nothing rewarding about collecting "pagies".

>>722838441
Reimagining

>>722838441
It's one of those games that's in between a remaster and remake.

Kek

>>722838441
nah its built off the old game, nothing in here is "remade" so to speak, it just changes a whole bunch of shit though the changes aren't super in-depth or anything

>>722838647
I'm thinking mop, flip, mop, dip
That sounds effective and easy to remember

>>722838725
Huh? I'm playing through it right now the changes are pretty damn major

>>722838441
It's a paid modpack
If it was some mentally ill tranny modder making the exact same fixes, no one would bat an eye, but since it's new labeled as new product, we're supposed to give a shit
Can't wait for the same shit to happen with Crash 4 even though all of the game'e issues were already fixed by the N.hanced mod

>>722838932
It's more like a really big patch or ROM hack than a remake. The levels are the same, the moves are (mostly) the same, the missions are by and large the same, the bosses are the same and so on.

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>everyone insists the original Yooka-Laylee is the true successor to Banjo-Kazooie
>pirate it
>it's kind of bad
>emulate Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie
>somehow N64 games have better structure, mechanics, platforming, and more content
>2D games comes out
>people insist it's better than Tropical Freeze
>it feels like a Tropical Freeze beta since the level themes never really change and you revisit them more often than Crash reused his
>everyone complained about Retro's DK being too heavy but Yooka is the complete opposite with zero weight to his movement
>now this is out
>people insist it improves on the original
I don't trust anyone praising this franchise.

>>722839038
Did you try it?

>>722839423
Yes

>>722839453
well, I'm playing through it too but I notice immediately that nearly every collectible has been put in different locations, objectives have changed in various ways, new sections and areas have been added, lots of qol ontop of stuff like the map. I really think these help the game and is what I want in a Banjo Tooie remaster too.

>>722823464
No, it was a bad game. Banjo Tooie was a shit game that missed the point of what made Banjo Kazooie fun and this game was Banjo Tooie with none of the charm.

>>722839601
I don't feel like it's enough. Like it's a lot of band-aids on top of the original, but they don't address that the levels were boring. The themes were boring, the designs were boring and slapping in more shit doesn't really fix that.

Banjo had vibrant, memorable worlds. It had big landmarks that made exploring easy. Big ant hill with a skull house, that's Mumbo's Mountain. Big cliff with a lighthouse and a giant crab, that's Treasure Trove Cove. Big ass tree with seasonal changes, that's Click Clock Wood. Levels had unique NPCs and enemies that fit their environments. Yooka doesn't do any of this.

>>722839632
God opinion.

>>722839851
I don't really agree because I think the themes are distinct enough and I'm having a lot of fun so far but I respect your opinion

>>722839970
Alright. You too, have fun. I thought it was merely OK, so I'm not much interested in trying more tbqh

>>722835093
>they slightly altered some songs for some reason
They got an orchestra to redo the songs. Now you can really tell which tracks suck though. Not Kirkhope's best.

>>722823464
>Banjo Kazooie
>Play a level for 30 minutes and get every jiggy and note in the process
>Each level is unique but simple in design giving them a clear identity
>Level designs are simple with secrets clearly telegraphed
>Banjo Tooie
>Play level for 2 hours
>Have to battle over whether to come back later or not because all levels are interconnected
>Levels are completely unmemorable at best and Grunty Industries at worst
>Game is over saturated with bullshit secrets that are both not worth it at all and mandatory to find
>When people talk about Banjo Kazooie and what they loved from it they are universally talking about Banjo Kazooie and not Tooie and nobody even played Tooie let alone finished it or enjoyed it
>Cut to 20 years later
>RARE: HEY GUYS, EVERYBODY WANTS ANOTHER BANJO KAZOOIE BUT THEY WON'T LET US MAKE IT, SO LET'S MAKE BANJO TOOIE AGAIN BUT EVEN BIGGER AND MORE CONFUSING AND WITH WORSE CHARACTERS AND LETS MAKE THE LEVELS LOOK LIKE SHIT FROM MARIO ODYSSEY

has anyone gotten to later levels like the marsh & ice world? the 1st world was good in the original but fell off a cliff after that design-wise. this game seems frontloaded too.

>>722841093
They didn't change the level design if that's what you're wondering

>>722841093
They changed th
e level design if that's what you're wondering

>>722841201
it shows that Steve Malpass & Gregg Mayles, the guys that made the BK level designs cohesive, haven’t been involved with this Playtonic garbage. so disappointing.

>>722841385
Nice post, mobile-kun.

>>722841634
i'm on my desktop thoughbeit

>>722824405
grim

>>722840675
mario odyssey had unique and wild level themes tho be it

>>722823464
Why would Yooka Rape-Laylee?

>>722839970

>grass level
>ice level
>swamp level
>casino level but xboxhueg
>grass level but purple

>>722843038
The last world is hilarious because they unironically tried to pass it off as space.

>>722823464
SOULLESS
>all moves unlocked at the start of the game ruins entire platforming segments in early levels. It removes a critical aspect of the game, which was collecting feathers to unlock moves which then gradually opened up the world and made you want to revisit earlier areas.
>literally just Mario Odysseys coin/cosmetic system copy and pasted. Feathers are now purple, and they act the exact same way as purple coins, which is to buy different costumes and cosmetics.
>no more expanding worlds
>entire segments of levels reworked to be simplified, barren, easy
>many classic challenges removed
>game is basically just trying to be Mario Odyssey and has lost its identity as a Banjo/metroidvania 3D platformer

>everyone yelling about Mario Odyssey
>when Mario Odyssey was the one to copy the Banjo formula more than older Mario games to begin with

>>722836490
i dont know what this is suppose to convey

>>722845040
Mario Odyssey actually got the formula right though

Why should I play this when I 100%'ed the original game?

>>722846980
because it's a different experience

>>722833409
Did no one play nostalgia 64 or corrupted jiggies

>>722824405
His haircut and beard look so weird. He looks like he never moved away from a 14 year old's style choices

I hate that every collectathon is trying to be odyssey now. I hate that you trip over collectables every 2 minutes.

>beat first world 100%
>have a dip into the second world but not too much
>fuck around in the hub opening doors
>can already fight the final boss

What an odd choice

>>722823464
If I can get it physical for around 20 euros on my switch 2 with the full content inside the cart, I might consider it, but for the 55 euros it is retailing for, I don't think I will get it.

>>722847103
People do not play Rom hacks.

>>722848390
The Switch 2 version is apparently really bad performance wise.

>>722848669
if by bad you mean 30fps yes, but it's consistent so far.

>>722839153
Corn kidz is the closest game I've played that actually emulates banjo. Unfortunately only 1 of the 3 worlds really does it, since the 1st level is more of a tutorial stage and the 3rd is just a kaizo mario hack stage.

the only thing bad about this now is the charisma vacuums that are Yooka and Laylee as characters.

>>722849335
they're slowly starting to give laylee eyelashes in the artwork, so now that all the women are gone from playtonic they might make her cute

>>722849407
I really think they should just start again and make some new characters, instead of making YL2.
Fair dues to them for fixing it though.

Playtonic also needs to make some different games. Spending ten years trying to launch a mascot platforming franchise is kind of deranged, to be honest.
Rare literally used to throw shit at a wall and see what stuck.
>bruv, let's see if we can make Mario Kart better than Ninendo?
>we've only gone and done it now, haven't we? Flippin mental.
>now make a game that combines Starship Troopers with a "how to draw anime" book, I don't know.
That was the spirit of Rare.

>>722823685
He looks like a faggot though.

>>722823464
I can’t even tell if you’re joking because the name Replaylee is so fuckin retarded. To me it already signal that the game isn’t worth my time and that it’s a rehashed piece of trash.

I think I'll just get drunk and replay Super Kiwi 64.

>>722849847
Rare dabbled with a lot of different genres. Playtonic has only released platformers so far. I heard rumors they wanted to make a DKR-inspired racer, but who knows if they'll even exist long enough to make it.

>>722823464
>2017
>we want to give you an experience that invokes the feeling of Banjo Kazooie and Tooie
>2025
>we want to give you an experience like Mario Odyssey

>>722853192
yeah just without the great soundtrack, unique worlds, and fun powerups.

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>>722853192
Odyssey was pretty much what a third Banjo should have been. Transformation mechanics are handled so much better.

>>722823464
I’m PISSED. I’m OLD enough to remember the promises made and broken back during the kick starter days for the original. Playtonic basically wanted to make a “game universe” of retro N64 games akin to the MCU and I remember reading that exact comparison on their official website in like 2015. They wanted characters to appear in each other games and they “confirmed” Yooka Laylee had a character(s) who will be in a lead in a *new* game. I remember always suspecting that alien chick in Galleon Galaxy was the stand out NPC who seemed like she could be a main character in a game. I remember wondering what type of game it would be, I half expected a jet force jemini inspired game. Of course nothing even remotely close to any of these plans happened, and instead, nearly a decade after the release of Yooka Laylee, all we’ve got was a 2D asset flip spin off and a remake of the original. At the very least this should’ve been Yooka Laylee 2. Shows how lazy they are as a company, to invest the time and money into a remaster 8 years after the original instead of releasing a sequel.

>>722853192
And the 2017 game succeeded in feeling like a dated, yet fun, Rare aware n64 era game. This new version feels like temu Mario odyssey

>>722824405
>tatted
I'd say women can't control themselves but in this instance he can't control his weight

>>722832668
>I only liked Super Mario Odyssey because it did something new
I'd ask why this journo is reviewing platformers but I think it's more deep-seated than that and he doesn't like video games

>>722848669
I saw a review from a tuber and he didn't say the game was runnin really bad, but they most probably set a frame limit at 30fps so there's not massive fluctuations.

I liked the original, my biggest gripe was the stupid "fly anywhere at any time" move they give you that just completely breaks the final level. I imagine it cant be completely gone since a few jiggies in the final level depended on it, but it was a really stupid move to give you a move that removes all the platforming.

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>>722823464
>making a reflop of a flop
self-imposed humiliation ritual

>>722832254
>Shits on the game for living too much in the past instead of pushing the genre
>Proceeds to gas up Astro Bot as an example of a modern game that did push the genre

All I needed to know that the reviewer was retarded.

>>722837946
original deserved a 5 or less to be honest, it definitely got boosted for being a "return of banjo n kazooie" kickstarter

>>722823464
Banjo was never good.

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It's fun but the main issue with the game is that Yooka is not as hot as Banjo.

>>722823464
Quirk chungus ah game

>>722856548
kys furfag

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>>722823464
i keep reading it a rapelay everytime

>>722832856
Concord was a 6 so not far off

>>722856548
>just read that Hollonut comic of him and Conker
I want to be someone's Banjo so badly

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>>722856720
kys normalfag

>>722856783
Based

>>722856231
don't say "gas up"

>>722823464
The original game was fantastic, it pisses me off for youtube to recommend me videos titled "they fixed yooka laylee" it wasn't broken, cocksuckers

So wait a minute, is the "fly anywhere" move gone since you apparently have all moves unlocked at the start now?

>>722836953
I could not tell you a single DKC Returns level

>>722857659
OK, good for you. We're talking about Replaylee though.

>>722823464
Annoying ugly scrimblo protagonists, actually not just the protagonists, everyone is an inbred version of B&K

But more importantly than that, the controls just don't feel good, they play like babby's first unreal 3D platformer

>>722823464
>why is it not
Because the original was fine. Caving to retards devalued my opinion of the devs & the game.

>>722857891
I could tell you all about Yooka Laylee levels

>>722823464
Call me a sucker but I’m enjoying it immensely, even if it is missing some of the charm of the original. I don’t much care for Trowzers role being reduced to “the cosmetic shop guy for the other collectible currency”, but that’s more of a nit pick. Rexos game mode is still boring, just a different kind of boring. So strange to me why Playtonic wouldn’t put all their resources as a company to just making Yooka Laylee 2 and improving on the original without being locked down with constraints on what you can and can’t do. The first 2 levels aren’t even designed with many of the games moves in mind, so a lot of the platforming is quite easy early on. Rexo needs to be scrapped, let it go. And I enjoyed unlocking new moves. This was supposed to be a banjo kazooie inspired game after all. Now it feels like it’s inspired by Mario odyssey

>>722858991
>Playtonic wouldn’t put all their resources as a company to just making Yooka Laylee 2
no cash

>>722857407
It’s now been turned into a power up plant you slurp up with your tongue to use like the other elemental plants.

>>722858991
I would have enjoyed an expansion pack, rather than the remaster. I enjoyed the original and my only single critique was simply I wanted more game to play. Add levels, boom done.

>>722823464
the character designs are just rubbish. they should have started fresh with a new duo and just had yooka laylee in a trashbin or somethin to acknoledge they fucked up

>>722824405
I love that big mfer. His videos are funny

>>722838647
Wrong it's
>Whip, stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, stir

>>722859742
>not stirring before you whip
I shiggy diggy

Dumbed down game for Ubisoft shitter casuals, so I'm not getting it.

What a shame, they removed the jank that held the original back but also removed all sense of progression and discovery.

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>>722859742
This anon gets it.

>>722824405
>>722823685
I am glad Jontron won.
I am glad Playtonic lost.
The good guys won, the bad guys lost.

>>722847103
I only like Tooie and they refuse to make hacks of that one with similar interconnected design philosophy. I am not going to play a romhack that's still hubslop

>>722860593
Based

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im playing it right now.
the graphic update looks great and the it feels a lot better to control now. so far is pretty good

>>722861881
>Laylee's tiny Hawaiian shirt
Cute! Glad you're enjoying it

>>722859742
Based RLM enjoyer

So far I've like 98% the first level. It's better than the original but there's still problems. Shader compilation stutter isn't great. Every time you pick up a new item or see a new effect the game stutters. Level design is still not great with some stuff clearly stuck in retarded places (Missing 4 quills in the first level and I've looked everywhere). The worst thing is the roll drops the input if you even slightly let go of the trigger. Moving the trigger from 100% held to 90% drops the roll.