Where do you land on this age old debate?https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0kDdqBgo
>>7228318793 is a better gameWorld has a better aesthetic with worse levels and some gay gimmicks
The only complaint I have about 3 is that levels are too short I love SMW but SMB3 is kinda better
>>722831879>gameplay 3>exploration and presentationWorldtoo hard to choose between them. SMW romhacks are better, though.
>>722832256>>7228323793 is not a better game>levels are laughably too short a lot of the time>autoscrollers galore>power ups are more varied but so rare it almost doesn’t matter>no yoshi>bland color on the NES>way less secrets and exploration
>>722831879I love both, the aesthetics and music just barely edge out World for me though. I think it just comes down to little preferences like that, they're both rock-solid games and fun as fuck.
>>722831879Allstars
Mario World just has so much more soul and style I can’t go against it.
>>722832729Doesn’t count
>>722832596>bland colorSeeing the brick block's sheen for the first time was burned into my mind, I perfectly recall playing it for the first time and being amazed at how beautiful 1-4 was
>>722832729This. SMB3 all stars is peak.
>>722833796I actually prefer the all stars version of Mario World because its colors are perfect, especially the purple overalls on Luigi.
>>722831879Mario 3 had more fun power ups and levels. World was okay.
>>722834193Power ups that you see maybe twice in an entire playthrough meanwhile Yoshi is a regular occurence
>>722831879World because Yoshi is cooler and more significant than all the power ups in SMB3. But I still like them both a lot, and Yoshi Island.
Allstars SMB3
>>722834185>remaster>the game is actually betterdifferent times
I thought Mario World would lose this poll but fuck is it getting fuuuuucccckkkkeeedddd. Fucking cuntrarians old = good new = bad faggots I swear.
>>722834185I share your color autism. The mushroom in SMB3 always bothered me so I was relieved they fixed it in all stars.
>>722832729Fucking disgusting taste
>>722834480>>722834658>>722832729>>722833796what's the difference between og and AS?
>>722834658literally how
>>722831879Hey Scott the Woz you just made this video in your stash yesterday
>>722834808yeah I admit that’s what inspired the thread haha
>>722832729I wish the Land Games got the all star treatment
>>722834298Frog Suit up made Water Levels enjoyable
>>722832729No one says this
>>722835108It only appears twice
>>722834741All stars looks better. Wider pallette of colors and more ram to draw backgrounds so instead of a black void behind the playable surface underground, you get a dungeon aesthetic that moves in parallax with the player character. There's more, but that's the meat and potatoes of it.
>>722835224your inventory bro???
>>722835354Don't bother, he didn't play it.
>>722831879Yoshi's Island
>>722835203I just did.
>>722835018SML2, SWL1 and SWL2 are among the best games ever.I think it was the same dev team as Super Metroid iirc. Such league of men shall never again exist.
3 elitists are the worst. both games are easy. both games have good music and level design. world has yoshi so world wins.
>>722831879SML2 shits on both. But World is better than 3 by a small margin.
>>722835642FUCKING THIS GODDDD
>>722831879Super Mario Bros 3 remake for the GBA >>722832767True
>>722832729This + the brick fix patch for 1 and Lost Levels. It's the shit.If you get the version that also has SMW, Luigi has unique sprites in that game that they'd later go on to reuse in the GBA port, and he spits fireballs instead of throwing them.
>>722831879SMW was a SNES launch title and it really shows. Meanwhile SMB3 came out 5 years after NES was released and took full advantage of the console. That makes me respect SMB3 more. Gameplay wise both are great.
Neither.
>>722835809So you respect it more because it had more development time and understanding how the console worked? If anything I respect World more because of its limitations and less dev time as a launch title.
>>722835742>Super Mario Bros 3 remake for the GBAThat's actually a port of the all stars remake
>>722835203i do
World doesn't look right to me. Backgrounds are incredibly simple and the spritework is a clusterfuck of styles. It's like they couldn't decide on anything and it was rushed out the door. Even Mario Maker couldn't come up with decent new sprites that match the originals.
>>722836163Mario Maker is irrelevant faggot and the sprites look great anyway
>>722836260>Mario Maker is irrelevantDid you even read the rest of my post or did you just lash out instantly because I even mentioned it?
>>722836108I know no history and have no idea what all stars is
>>722831879I had to think harder about this than I'd care to admit.3 has better levels, not to say that SMW has bad levels. 3 also had a cooler selection of powerups, even though the cape is very fun to use. Yoshi is great too, but not enough to put SMW over 3.I prefer SMW's soundtrack, but 3's obviously isn't bad. I prefer the spritework in SMW, but 3's stage play aesthetic is cooler, I think.Saving various kings from being transformed into animals felt cooler than blowing up the koopalings' towers, too.
>>722836407I read the rest of your post but your logical argument is based on Mario maker’s sprites which are irrelevant.
>>722836465All-Stars was a compilation of remakes of all the Super Mario Bros. games released on the NES. It never got a retail release in NA; they bundled it with consoles.Later releases of it also included Super Mario World.
>>722831879World > SMB3Yoshi's Island is peak, thougheverbeit
>>722836995>Yoshi's Island is peak, thougheverbeitTruth. It's the best Super Mario Bros. game
>>722836995The sad truth is the series peaked with the only good Yoshi game
>>722837208Nothing sad about it. That's one of like ten bigass big pimpin' feathers in Takashi Tezuka's cap. My man only directed peak
>>722837298LTTP is still his best game
snes 3 > world > nes 3
>>722831879SMW has way tighter and more interesting controls, and smb3's level design starts showing its warts when you start trying to speed through level. It's a lot more interesting to play smw, and when people are making romhacks they are typically using smw as a basis as well because it's fundamentally better, so it's clearly the better game.
>>722837650Facts. Tell the fucking poll that.
>>722837763You can vote in a strawpoll infinitely by tapping the airplane button on your phone and refreshing your cookies. If it's a strawpoll it's not a real poll and I have no interest in looking at it.
>>722837847Damn I didn’t know dat
>>722831879Mario 3 is a better game due to its proper difficulty curve, but Mario World is the "better" to play without being stressed.
>>722836163Agreed. World looks messy, like they tried to squeeze in too many colors and details in sprites that are far too small.The big sprites look decent, but the smaller ones don't.
>>722837650>SMW has way tighter and more interesting controls,It's the opposite. The controls in World feel finnicky, and the powerups kinda suck.3 is just tight across the board, with extremely good controls and powerups that are all fun to use.
>>722838198>3 is just tight across the boardAll of 3 is just P storage which is via its extremely finicky and floaty jumps, and many of the levels don't follow nintendos golden rule of preventing the player from slamming into things if they haven't played the level before and are running, so replaying a lot of the levels is just learning the proper times to make blind jumps if you want to beat them fast. Like its just really bad and amateur design.
>>722835742>2 entire worlds are optional secret worlds>Finding the cannon secret in the first worldSOVL
>>722838491Based
We grew up with the SNES and All-stars so I didn't see the original versions of 2 and 3 until I was WELL into my teens if not early 20s and they looked fucked up
>>722831879The one without a billion fucking autoscrollers
>>722834193>Mario 3 had more fun power upsYoshi alone is better then every single power up in 3, , SMB3 power ups seem cooler than they are because they are so rare, SMW went for depth instead.
Super Mario World just for the cape feather sound effect.
>>7228318793 is better as an adult. I wished I got to play World as a kid because I was IN LOVE with its aesthetic whenever I saw others playing it. I asked my mom for the World GBA remake as a kid and she got me 3 instead at the advice of an employee. In retrospect, it was the right choice.
>>722839901Based
SMW for nostalgia.SMB3 for cooler and more distinct worlds and secrets.Also SMB3 is more challenging, because SMW has imo too many ways it ruins the challenge:> Infinite flight cape, can skip (at least) 1/3 of all levels> Yoshi, especially the blue one> Abundance of 1-ups> Can just take a power-up out of a stage with start+select> The colored !-switch-blocks> Many alternative paths> Mid-level checkpointsGranted might be bias, someone who has played SMB3 as much as I played SMW might say SMB3 is easy as well.
>>722839901ThisOrThe little fanfare whenever you complete the level, complete with the BIIIIWOOOYIP of the closing camera iris
>>722840587If you think any mario game is challenging you haven't played enough video games
>>722841040Nah, merely comparing them in relation to each other.I only said SMB3 is more challenging than SMW, not that SMB3 is challenging in general.
>>722841040You're a retard. Mario World even has this exploit with the cape that you can spin to give yourself i-frames, so you can get hit but whiff the damage without getting a power loss. I forgot what it's called specifically but it's tied to Mario World mechanics. You must have the cape, its been a while but you must be in the spin animation and even if you get hit you can avoid damage by being at the right angle. Even kids can figure this out and use it as a clutch. Mario 3 has very little mechanical exploits like that.
>>722840587>le challengingbut which is more fun to actually play?
>>722841643True
>>722836108there's some extra content and maybe the music was changed idri know the underground music for smb2 sounds way better on gba cuz it has a ton of reverb and staticsnes:https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-all-stars-1993-snes/4-04.%2520Underworld.mp3gba:https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-advance-1-super-mario-brothers-2/05%2520Underground.mp3
>>722841643Did you even read my post or did you just fill your diaper with rage blindly
>>722841643Sounds like SMW is deeper.
>>722834185bro purple overalls are so fucking good and im mad that the only remnant we have of it is luigi's overalls being slightly darker
I did not like the NEW Ds games. Kinda boring.
>>722842058FUCK
>>722836163man look at the tcrf page for smw youll find some WILD stuff in there
SMB3. I prefer its theming and level design. Speedrunning autism doesn't matter to me, so levels that prevent you from just holding run and going right are more interesting. A lot of vertical levels that don't rely on autoscrolling too.World feels like wasted potential. A lot of levels are very flat and some don't even have many secrets above requiring the cape to justify how high the ceiling is. There are significantly less new level gimmicks and for a place called Dinosaur Land, there really isn't much variety in terrain until the Forest of Illusion and Chocolate Island. You barely even encounter the new dino enemies, it's mostly Koopa Troopas and an excessive reliance on fish for some reason.
>>722831879Just finished a 96 exit SMW playthrough. Honestly the game's kinda bland, desu. SMB3 is far superior.
Speed runners ruined the Mario community.
>>722831879I only beat 3 but it fucking sucked so I can only assume SMW is better.SMB1 mogs both
>>722842801SMB1 remastered?
>>722836743>your logical argument is based on Mario maker’s spritesNo, the original ones are widely inconsistent too. The backgrounds also range from good to really basic and ugly.
>>722841040I 100%ed all the DKC/DKCR/DKTF games and did all the Super Meat Boy ironmans, and still found Super Mario Bros 3 hard as fuck, one of the hardest games in the library. Hell, I still die to basic goombas way too often, and even in easier games like NSMB DS, I would die 10+ times in a single stage even in early worlds.
>>722842945Mario SNES All-Stars has a Mario 1, Mario Lost Levels, Mario 2, and Mario 3 remakes. Mario 1 remake has weird physics, at least to me a casual player they felt off compared to the NES one.
>>722843105Whoa you 100%'d donkey kong, epic gaming...
>>722842945I've beat both and like them about evenly, SMB1 has the brick fix romhack if that's the issue.
>>722843203Retard, it's for context as most people claim it's far harder than Mario. I can't really think of many difficult platformers that aren't 2D indie ones. I've also done Spelunky hell route, beat all rows on N++, all Cuphead Expert S-ranks, beat Contra Harda Corps with no damage, beat both loops of GnG without dying, etc.The point is more that I have extensive experience with platformers but still struggle with mario. Mario isn't easy, not by a longshot
>>722832729>Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario Worldsovl overload
ALL STARS IS SHIT
Just a reminder that Rosalina is in Mario Wonder now. You can't escape her.
>>722843569>Bowser gets two battle themes in SMB1nah, it's kino
>>722843637I was so fed up with Nintendo by the end of the switch's lifespan that I did not even bother trying the game
>>722843430>I've also done Spelunky hell routeYou've beaten the tutorial for spelunky 2, so maybe try that. Or dustforce. Or umihara kawase.
>>722843754I hated that in multiplayer characters don't interact with each other in any way, looking forward to NSMB revival
I like both games, but both are extremely overrated. I think they're equal overall in terms of quality and fun. They have different strengths and weaknesses. SMB1 and SML2 are the best classic Mario games to me.
>>722843446Ok but why does Bowser look like a chill dude? In none of those games Bowser is depicted as anything but a villain.
>>722843873>tranny reaction image>recommends three tranny games Die.Get more than baby's first shitclear THEN speak
>>722843950>SMB1>how can we make this game interesting for adults?>just make it feel like you're on ice constantly when you're runningYeah nah
>>722843997>Get more than baby's first shitclear I am going to 1-all doj black then stop because shmup threads are so insanely shit
>>722844045skill issue. i feel mario behaves the most predictably in smb1
>>722844197>skill issueNo, start and stop frames are measurable and quantifiable objective values, like, mathematically.
>>722844260No one is arguing that. What conclusion are you trying to point to by saying that? It seems you left your statement unfinished. Anyway, worrying so much about data, empirical evidence, charts, graphs, etc. is very reddit behavior. SMB1 feels the best to control to me, regardless of your "quantifiable objective values" tell you.
>>722844458>What conclusion are you trying to point to by saying thatMario objectively controls like he's on ice when running in smb1. That's a factual statement, not an opinion to be argued with. Due to this, he's not fun to control, this is an opinion. In SMW he's very fun to control. Along with DK94 this is the most fun 2D mario movement, which is what makes these otherwise very easy and simple games enjoyable.
I enjoy both
SMW is the low-budget game.SMB3 is the AAA game.
>>722841945>which is more fun to actually playNTA: The challenging one you pedantic faggot.
I personally like SMB3 moreBoth are good games though
>>722831879 I am a boomer millennial and 3 will always be the best but world is second place
>>722845060But neither are challenging
>>722831879World. The only thing 3 has over World is more Powerups.
Is it just me, or do SMB3fags come off as way more annoying than SMWfags? Somehow these people act elitist about their favorite Mario game made for young children.
>>722834885>thing that can be accomplished on the NES>thing that can be accomplished on the NES>thing that can be accomplished on the NESSMW has no excuse being an SNES game. It's a lazy launch title
Tanooki > Cape.
>>722834808>>722834885Man this place has become absolutely vile
>>722845206Nah, you Worldfags are infinitely more annoying. You fags are the ones starting the whole Vs. debate to begin with, because of how insecure you all are.
>>722843203go ahead and try it then
Yoshi was so lame compared to the frog suit.
>>722841040The old ones are decently hard, sit down anyone who hasn't played Mario before to beat those games and they're going to Game Over many times.
>>722843964Bowser is quite chill, he just plays his role perfectly
I think that World's more grounded aesthetic is just more compelling. The game is still whimsical, but feels more like real locations, and I think it's neat. I love the look of the Vanilla Dome, and the Forest of Illusions, and Chocolate Island, and things like that. I prefer it much more over 3's theming. 3 has more variety I guess but also feels more gimmicky.
>>722845276(Raccoon Mario > Tanooki)(Aesthetically)
>>7228348853 really would've been improved by a save battery or at least a password system. I don't know why they thought making a 3+ hour long game without any kind of save was okay. The warp whistles are such a bandaid solution.
>>722847637Sunshine has the best aesthetic of any Mario game, and the best sense of world cohesion in any non-open world game until Dark Souls 1 came out. A shame it's such a buggy piece of shit, Sunshine is underappreciated for what it did.
>>722847868>best sense of cohesion until Dark SoulsNo.
What could've been...
I guess World, but 3 is still good.
>>722848001Then name a non-open pre-souls game that had a better sense of large interconnected world than Mario Sunshine
>>722848298Crouching bowser hidden koopa
Anyone saying 3 never played 1 or 2 and it shows
>>722848621How so?
>>722848368Jak and Daxter, no loading zones.
>>7228318792D Mario hasn't had any real ideas since 3. It's crazy how good SMB 3 is for a game from 1988.
>>722831879SMB3 and my opinion will never change
>>722848719Fair enough.
