>Bakram>Galgastan>Wallister>Lodis>Xenobia>ValeriaUhm, context?
i noticed the steam version is rated poorly, whats the best way to play it
>character called Juda is a traitorsasuga miyazaki
>>722860676There's cutscenes and also plenty of text in the game, like Warren report.Great game, unfortunately every fight is the very same.
that fucking mirror match is a pain in the ass, still can't beat it. I can only rely on consumables to make a difference
>>722860784>i noticed the steam version is rated poorly, whats the best way to play itNot at all. It's dated and barebones.
>>722861037>Great game, unfortunately every fight is the very same.how come?
>>722861037>There's cutscenes and also plenty of text in the gameThe game just drops you in with those terms tho
>>722860676>Valeria is the name for the entire unified isle in which the game takes place>Bakram, Galgistan, Wallister are three divisions of the isle>Galgistan is prevailing over the Wallister as the game begins>Lodis is the greater empire and home of the Dark Knight faction outside of the isle>Xenobia is a nation that gained its freedom recently and home to Lans, Canopus, and the rest before they are exiledYou can gradually piece it all together as the game goes on though.Also, it is a great game.
>>722861037>unfortunately every fight is the very sameRidiculous overstatement. Scouting the field prior to the fight becomes important to counter the enemy team, terrain, and objectives.
>>722861662Ah Bakram are natives to Valeria? I thought they were the name for a foreign ethnic group
Why is Ravness voice so deep?
>>722860676Yeah the game doesn't even have a map or anything. It does a terrible job of introducing you to its world.
>>722862270They are natives but also richer aristocracy types. More powerful than the other two. Basically, it was Valeria until the king died, left no heir, and then became the three in a state of war.
Is there ANY information on how damage formulas work in this game? I can't figure out why a unit is dealing 1 damage and the other 200 when there's no noticeable difference between their stats.
weapon upgrades are kinda whack, many times the next weapon is weaker than the current one as far as I can see
>>722861172Level scaling, bloated stat enemies (the units from story fights are much stronger than the ones that can be hired in shops, recruit those!), ridiculously overleveled bosses that require the same "tactic" to bring them down, due to itemization and the way the damage formula works.>>722862231Obviously a striking overstatement.
>>722862231>ScoutingNope, have my core team and never going to do that. Using game mechanics equals cheating.
>>722860676idle in the main menu for 30 seconds and you get an OP that explains it all
>>722862494A good portion of game mechanics in the remake are straight up broken, armor resistances dont work, several weapon types will never do any real damage.
>>722862416So are the 3 kingdoms based on some pre-existing ethnic strife?
>>722862794>several weapon types will never do any real damage.uhm which ones?
>>722863059Crossbows, pistols, knives (can do ok damage vs mages usually) fans, cudgels, most bows but not always.
>>722862886Barely kingdoms, rather splinters of a torn kingdom (valeria).>>722863059Bows and blowguns, maybe crossbows. They are useless against armored units, but shred non metal armor units. It's scissors rock paper. Archer shreds mage shreds warrior shreds Archer.Due to bugs there are certain meta. If you don't intend to play the 100h+ post game, don't bother.
>>722863285That's bs, sry. My knife warrior shreds enemies. She's my strongest unit. Don't forget that knives can have decent stat effects and stat boosts, too and iirc lower rt, meaning action economy is on your side.Fans are not for attacking, cudgel neither, with exceptions, as you say.
>>722860676Been playing this on my tv lately and fuck its so confy but also way easier than I remember. I originally did a playthrough on the psp when I was a teenager and either reborn is way easier or I was retarded (both are possible) because I was getting my shit kicked in constantly even after resorting to archer spam and im like midway into chapter 2 without having lost a fight yet, each time I see a level I remember how filtered I was, bet worried and then I beat it without much issue. Still have no fucking idea how to make taming beasts work though, I really want some but the skill seems impossible to use.
>>722862794None of that is true. The formulas are just not intuitive. It's the same as the LCUT remake, there's an armour penetration system similar to d&d and once you're past that there's stacking multipliers on your damage.
>>722863932Also want to mention that I like the level cap and the 4 skill limit. Feels more like actual tactics and strategy rather than another "power fantasy" nerd simulator.
>>722863556What are cudgels for? Why would I ever want to use baldurs mace for instance?
The only real issue I have is that hitting an enemy in the face seems to be near 100%. Should be a much heavier penalty for trying to hit someone from the front, and a moderate one at the side.
>>722864081It is and it's nothing like dndThe elemental armors are all broken. Fire resistance, gives you actually ice resistance and pricing protection does nothing, if your weapon doesn't do piercing damage. I tested it, endgame it does help to stack resistance much more that def value. Same for resistance.Due to the wonky damage formula it might even be advisable to use the opposite element of the finisher, so that you are more versatile.2h weapons not giving stats is just a ridiculous crutch to make shields valid.
Should I unequip the weapon-related skills replace it with a class skill? How much does it actually matter for damage/hit-chance?
>>722864138feels like most SRPG do this nowadays? Unicorn Overlord, Triangle Strategy also make it impossible to grindFE3H on non baby mode also has resource scarcity, tho it can be cheesed
>>722864328>Fire resistance, gives you actually ice resistanceThis isn't broken, it's literally consistent with the description.Just gonna assume you're retarded based on that false statement alone.
>>722864420No, the most important skill, as even magic scales of it. The other 3 skills are corresponding to the percentage it triggers, like 33, 25 and 15%. If you don't use the farthest left for the wepaon skill, your damage is lacking and not beating a certain threshold leads to you doing 5 damage.
Enjoyed the game but not that endgame with retreating and farming rng% drop relics to upgrade them.Also a lot of formulae are broken or do not work as written.Velocity Shift and Shamans are too dominant, too.Still a very enjoyable game and takes a while before someone reaches my breaking point. Just wished you could get Lanselot earlier.
>>722864643Obviously I was referring to the elemental armors, you sad and illiterate gremlin.
>>722864664>The other 3 skills are corresponding to the percentage it triggers, like 33, 25 and 15%. If you don't use the farthest left for the wepaon skill, your damage is lacking and not beating a certain threshold leads to you doing 5 damage.What? Where is it stated that skill positioning affects effectiveness?
>>722864736Not my fault you can't read basic in-game tooltips.
>>722864675Valid critique, the bugs are plenty and it's a very old and dated game. Maybe se won't fuck up the next few tactics games, but I doubt it.
>>722864328This is wrong. If you are innate Fire and weak to Water, your elemental armor should be the element Water is weak against (Lightning?).Now, I’m not sure if the game properly rolls these defenses mechanically but the armor logic itself isn’t broken. It’s just a bit unintuitive.
Finally a thread to post my wife.
Giving a shout out to Knight of Lodis, which is a great little Tactics Ogre game. Highly recommended if you haven't played it.
>>7228643282H do give stats, just not int/mind for spellcasting purposes.Not defending the game, it’s a broken piece of shit and abandoned unfixed.
>>722864909What's up with her voice? She sounds like 50 year old girlboss type
>>722864968Based
>>722864328weren't these also problems in LCUT? lol I remember that shit being buggy as fuck
Let's go Galgastan!
>>722865123PSP version had issues but Reborn is like they copy pasted it without much regard to adjusting to changes, let alone fix what already came broken.Also some minute things are so obtuse people are unsure if they’re broken or working as intended.
>>722865232>Also some minute things are so obtuse people are unsure if they’re broken or working as intended.this was also the case in the psp version though. buffs in particular didnt work 80% of the time. no one knows how formulas work.
I'm about to enter the path splitCan I go sisterfucker on chaos?
>>722865002She's supposed to be older than the protagonist, and you know how japs see JRPG protagonist older than 20.
steam version or emulation with one vision?
Seriously, what was her fucking problem?
>>722865704respond >>722865357>>722865441normally 22 year old arent voice acted like that in japanese
Something like...Denam: I must kill the Bakram.Olivia: No Denam you are the Bakram.And then Denam was a Lord.
>>722865704Perfectly written female character.
>>722865462Steam version if you want a streamlined but (trying and failing to be) true to the original.One Vision if you want full simulation autism. They tried to shove FFT into TO in LUTC/PSP and it has its good side but a lot of downsides as well. OV adjusted some things but increased the autism as mods usually do. You might not enjoy the grind.But it’s hard to suggest one version over another in a fundamental level. They’re very different despite being the same game.You’ll notice the same once whoever likes one version curses and rejects the other.Thinking about it, every version of TO is very different.>>722865704Oedipal complex. And she wanted her guy to choose her or his friends.
>>722865816The choices involving her are Chapter 4 exclusive, your previous routes don’t affect it directly.
>>722860676play Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen firstoptionally play Ogre Battle: Person of Lordly Caliber as well
>>722865987strange, seemingly I fight her when I choose chaos
>>722865816You sure?Pic related was 22 years old in-game. She was voice by a VA who was 43 at the time of release.
>>722866075There is one choice around where you get Olyvia that determine if she shows up or not.If you kill her, she dies.If you don’t kill her, or if she doesn’t show up, she can either join or kill herself based on your answers.
Canopus is so strong, is this game also going to have op winged units?
>>722866278You only get him and her sister in the post game.Other fliers are generic recruitable enemies. There is one roundabout way to get Divine Knights or recruit two of them in one specific map but it’s also post-game.
>>722866398his sister*
>>722864818They don't work>>722864830The elements work fine, it's that armors don't strengthen your attack element, nor do they protect against the element they are made of. Instead fire armor raises fire and this protects you from ice. The armor tool tip says it strengthens fire attacks, this is wrong.
>>722864998Right, and the vit dex as in 2h swords doesn't show in the stat block, but gets used in calculations. 2h sword raising vit doesn't raise def.
>>722864998This makes some weapons near useless, even endgame ones.>>722865123I'd say they wanted a certain balance, but somehow butchered 2h and dual weapons. Blowguns stats only work in the right hand aso.
>>722866517It’s because it’s complicated. The Fire armor is Fire Elemental. So it protects you if you happen to roll defense against Ice element.The tooltip was copipasted from the PSP version, which possibly had the Augment Fire skill as a passive, which might’ve affected your fire damage. But in either version the part of reducing Fire Damge is probably mistaken.
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>>722865123yes, most Reborn bugs are unfixed PSP shit.
>>722865206>250 vitTough mf>>722865912Seriously, what's his >>722865704 problem?
So she just dies like that uh?Also her voice is shit
>>722866709>But in either version the part of reducing Fire Damge is probably mistaken.Exactly. Shame, they would've been just nice. Now they aren't worth the effort and earrings and skullmask is the way to go. Unfortunately chokers are complete useless.Building a monster lich with 3 ogre blade units and I must say it's fun to obliterate everything in one's way. I already surpassed nybeth.
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>>722866709In Coda4 the Black Knights all equip elemental armor strong against the element they’re weak to so I guess this is how it’s supposed to work.
>>722860784The Steam version is rated as mostly positive but maybe your language is not set to English.The only complaints people have are retards crying about the level cap so they can't grind random encounters forever untill they vastly outlevel the enemies in the story battles.The game is good and the Steam version is fine.
>>722865704She acts like a spoiled brat and accuses you of being a child. Made me feel good about her suicide
>>722866993>>722860676raveness wife and should have been in the canon chaos route
>>722867013I can't hate her, sister sexo is too strong
>>722866950Another broken thing is armor defense. Every armor has a pierce/blunt/slash defense value.Common sense would dictate that if you’re attacked by a sword, your slash defense would be added.But if you’re equipping a hammer/bludgeon, the game will always use blunt defense value from armor instead.Also read somewhere that despite the attack bonus you see on character screen by matching their element with their weapons’, you don’t actually get any bonus in calculations.
All in all the game functions and if you equip x weapon with x proficiency and matching skills, you will probably win.But it’s damning to a game that forces a level cap on you and prizes uphill battles to not reward a degree of mastery of systems and optimization because it’s simply broken.Even if it matters very little outside of a few encounters.
Why is Denam a battlegod of death and gets the Lord class while he is able to beat one elite group of knights from Lodis of which there is more than 15 elite dark knight factions while Ramza stays a squire in canon after beating literal demons?Is Denam really that much better of a leader than Ramza
>>722867429>Ramzawho?
>>722865704She wanted Denam Dick but he won't give it to her.
>>722867429If it serves as consolation, Ramza’s Squire job now changes it name to Gallant Knight in the remaster. Later on the game.
>>722860784i tested all versions. Reborn looks better than psp+HDpack and Reborn has voice acting and nice QoL. Reborn won.
>this threadJust look up Ruecession's mechanics guide instead of parroting random pieces of misinformation as fact.
>>722860784psp with one vision mod is the most bug free and has the most additionsdemake trannies don't @ me
>>722865232The entire reason why the AI stopped using certain spells in Reborn was a result of the AI behaving weirdly with them in PSP.Also, the "problem" with bows/crossbows/fusils/blowdarts is that the inherited formula weighs armor defense higher than most.
>>722860676So we all played Tactics and went 'Hmm, TO is much better' and now we replaying this one?
>>722867630who?
>>722864741His ass.
>>722867832I went from trying Unicorn, to Triangle Strategy to this
>>722860676>Uhm, context?After a big war, rebel leader Dorgalua finds a way to unite the whole country, making him king. He has a queen and a prince on the way. But whoops, King Dorgalua fucked the maid and now she's pregnant. Whoopsie twosie, the queen's son falls off the Hanging Gardens because guard rails hadn't been invented yet. Whoopsie number threesie, in her grief at the death of her son, the queen commits suicide. And whoopsie foursie, the king dies too after disappearing. So with the entire royal family now gone, who rules the country? Well Brantyn, who's like a youth pastor, decides to bribe a bunch of nobles into making him the new Regent. Brantyn also walks his stupid ass up north to Lodis to ask them for help. Lodis was already planning on slithering their way into the country because of a magic thing they were looking for so they give Brantyn a totally free army for him to use to take over the country. These are the Bakram (Red). Oh and also Brantyn decides he's the archbishop now. So Mrueva has to fuck off. Mrueva's 4 daughters get really mad about this. 2 of them create ISIS...I mean the Bakram Liberation Front. Sherri decides to side with Brantyn. And Olyvia remains best girl. Brantyn is trying to solidify his power but Cerya and her rebels keep starting violent uprisings every week for him to put down.In the south, Heirophant Balbatos decides>All this land down here is mine!Balbatos believes all land is Galgastani (Yellow) clay and so he starts butchering everyone else. Including the Wallister (Blue) in the deep south. Duke Ronway tries to lead a resistance against the Galgastani but he gets immediately captured and thrown in prison. While the rest of the Wallister are made to work in the mines. The Galgastani also have this weird thing about hiring necromancers as generals. Nybeth doesn't give a shit about the politics though. He just wants to harvest the dead bodies for his own personal bullshit.
>>722868179It really is the slavs war in the 90s.
If you want to know how damage actually works read thishttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1nUEH7xD8XE-IdUpVs5qUvJSN9FECzeWQR_aRE-aEE/
>>722867832I prefer TO because FFT has super small combat teams in super small arenas and is also broken as fuck. I'm not even going to buy FFT remaster until a good balance overhaul mod exists.
>game justifies war crimesClassic Japan
What happens if you go with the war crimes? Do they fail?
>>722868598yes everyone knows you did it on the very next cutscene
>>722868672So Wallister stays weak in the law path?
>>722868179Meanwhile, way down south in Golyat (Wallister territory) the Dark Knights burn down the town. Because Golyat was totally hiding terrorists who firebombed a bunch of Dark Knights up in Heim. Because that's a thing that makes sense while Balbatos is in the middle of fucking them in the ass. No, the actual reason the Dark Knights torched the town is because they were looking for Denam's father, Pavel. Because remember when I said the king fucked his wife's maid? Well that would technically make the baby a royal heir. Outwardly the Dark Knights are just looking for King Dorgalua's missing daughter so that they can put her on the throne and end the fighting. Secretly they need the missing heir because the Dark Knights are in Valentia looking for Dorgalua's Legacy and they can't get to it because it has a magic blood seal that keeps intruders out. A blood seal that can only be broken by a descendant to Dorgalua's bloodline.>But wait didn't the Dark Knights steal a magic god sword from Xenobia and that's why Holy Knight Lancelot and Canopus are in Valentia looking for it? That sword can allegedly break any seal, why do they need Dorgalua's heir?That's because while the Dark Knights look unified, behind closed doors they, specifically Dark Knight Lancelot, have their own selfish bullshit that they're going for.And that's the general premise of TO: LUCT
>>722868717I don't remember. Nothing changes much other than the people you fight and the characters you recruit. Chapter 3 you can make another choice and chapter 4 is the same for all routes
>>722867008>The only complaints people have are retards crying about the level cap so they can't grind random encounters forever untill they vastly outlevel the enemies in the story battles.NTA can you explain this please?
These mother fuckers are near and dear to me for some reason. I'd remake them in crpgs but there is never a flying man canopus option.
>>722865704>only good ending is the one where this selfish cunt survives and becomes queenPeople actually say this game has better writing than FFT.
>>722868717Vyce ends up turning on you no matter what you do. If you turn against the war crimes, Vyce will call you a coward and basically admit he's a jealous asshole who wants to fuck your sister. If you join the war crimes, Vyce will call you a cowardly psycho and vanish in the fighting. Telling everyone he can the truth about Denam, the butcher of Golyat.
>>722868952demake has a level cap that goes up after certain main missions
>>722868952Tactics Ogre has a world level that caps your level each chapter so that the story battles can still put up a fight even if you do side quests or training battles.
>>722868881what's an abuna
>>722868952The game has a “union level” that goes up to lv50 and increases along the story.So if your union level is at 20, no unit of yours can level up past lv20.Story enemies sometimes are 1-2lv above your cap.There isn’t much carryover between classes either with some exceptions so you can neither overlevel enemies nor make a busted perfect unit, maybe only Lord.Don’t know how it was on SNES or PS1 versions, but on PSP you could (and should, depending on proficiencies or skills) grind like you can in FFT. More or less.
>>722868881>Holy Knight Lancelot>Dark Knight Lancelotare these different people?
>>722868978I think the story is good. She is the rightful princess anyway. You can't blame her for behaving like a child sometimes since she still is a childalma still best girl though
>>722869101>>722869035do people complain about this in FFTIC? it also has a world level IIRC
>>722869238Yes, they’re high ranking officers from rival nations and that spills over as a personal rivalry that I don’t think is shown in previous games but it’s hinted to be longstanding in TO. And Dark Knight Lanselot’s element and gear/spells are light elemental. Just to fuck with your
>>722869035>>722869101>>722869203Thanks I don't think I'd mind that but does it mess with class unlocking?
>>722868978why do you say that's the good ending?
>>722868313Matsuno loves to copy paste 90s history into his work so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>722869137It's like a priest. In this scene, Brantyn hasn't taken over Heim yet. He was still a lowly abuna. The maid ran to him as she was going into labor and he delivered the baby. Unfortunately she would die in child birth, with the only evidence of her lineage being a necklace given to her by the king. Brantyn gave the baby and the necklace to Pavel and asked him to go south to Golyat and hide the baby away from the political bullshit that was getting ready to happen. So does that mean Brantyn was a good guy? No. He just wanted Catiua out of the way without anyone suspecting that the throne is technically hers. But at least he didn't kill the baby... so there's that.
>>722869353No, you unlock classes in TO by defeating enemies of said class and getting their dropped items that unlock that class for you or through story progression.
>>722869035>demakeYou mean the psp version that was made by lawfags?
>>722869353No. Class change in the series were more linked to micromanaging things like attributes/alignment and other minor things.In Reborn and I think PSP, too, you just drop or buy consumable class tokens and can change them willy nilly. Some are rarer or require side quests, most are sold at shops.There isn’t much reason to swap between classes too much either. Every class kit is more or less locked to their respective class.
>>722869446doesn't the demake just copy the story so it would also be made by lawfags by your argument?
>>722868978Valerians hate Denam.
>>72286950690% of the issues in Reborn are inherited from PSP.
>>722869635yeah it was a lazy port, what is your argument anyway? They even added more bugs like 100% hitchance which makes evasion useless
Sometimes I want to play One Vision but remember all those retarded AI guests you need to keep alive and give up.Warren is a fucking suicidal imbecile
*notices you*
>>722869515Not exactly true. Denam's action inevitably creates mortal enemies who will try to eventually kill him. Catua is untouched by Denam's sins so it's better to put her on the throne.Or at least, that's how Matsuno sees it.Getting rid of Denam is fucking retarded though. He's the most accomplished military leader in all of Velarian history.
>>722869721I wanted more jrpgs in general with this aesthetic and not korean MMO spike crystal armor stuff.
>>722869717>100% hit chance>bugAccuracy isnt bugged dumbass.
One thing puzzles me though: after 3 games named after Queen songs, why did they ignore that rule for Reborn?
>>722869418And Brantyn’s partial reasoning is that he had to work his ass off from rag to riches just for some kid to inherit the Island just because of who her father was.
>>722860784Saturn
>>722869721One day OB64 will rise again
>>722869717accuracy being OP/evasion being shit was already a thing in the PSP version retard.
>>722870014Cute but prominent nose
>>722869727No anon, Denam is factually not a popular person among the general populace due to the Butcher of Golyat shit that got put on him in Chapter 2. Then he btfo the Galgastani in Chapter 3 and the Bakram in 4.Catiua is popular because she represents the time when Valeria was still prosperous.
>>722865704>wants ONE thing in the world, big brother cock>is the one thing she never gets
>>722869965Matsuno is the Queen autist. Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber and Knight of Lodis were made by Quest without his input and also lack references to Queen.And technically Reborn is Let us Cling Together, just that it’s more associated to the PSP release. They probably didn’t want to confuse customers and there was no reason to pick another queen song since it is still fundamentally LUCT.
Reminder that Deneb is a body snatching demon and to kill her at every opportunity.
>>722870128I force her to bodyswap into a hag using the Ogre Blade.
>>722869721You think just because I'm from the south I can't notice as good as you?!
>>722867008That is all the reason you need to rate this poorly. It genuinely ruins the game, kills the entire fun of the original version, and is not how the game was designed to be played which makes every fight a huge tedious slog where you are always outnumbered by damage sponges.
>>722870128I thought she was just a sexo pumpkin girl
>>722869721I had no clue what chaos frame even was and I ended up killing his dad...
>>722869727>spoilerwhat happens?
>>722870262She's both
>>722868323this doesn't explain units dealing 1 damage and what to do to fix it
>>722869718Doesn't it make most guests controllable?
>>722870110>Let Us Cling Together was the PSPThe PSP version was called Unmei no Wa in Japan. Its the west that decided to reuse LUCT because they left off the subtitle back when Atlus localized it in the 90s.
>>722870278Denam leaves Valeria because he gives everyone the hick.Except Xapan, what a bro.
>>722870357>Unmei no WaWa? What? Wa is just a word they have? Wa la?
>>722869965deborn is a soulless product
>>722870357>the westjust the yanks
>>722870341If you're doing 1 damage then the enemy's effective defense is higher than your attack. Do you need someone to tell you to use better weapons, have elemental advantage and/or reduce their defense?
>>722868717Yes. Vyce is a lot better at propaganda than Denam is and leverages it to his advantage regardless.
>>722870453輪 probably.
>>722870383I thought he fucks his sister from the shadows?
>>722870341>>722870474one vision fixes this
>>722870551Matsuno is based, but not that based.Xapan is the only character Denam ever shows affection in the entire game.
>>722870474>>722870565cool, still not playing it
>the psp version sperg is hereWhat makes a person shill for objectively the worst version of the game?
>>722870618then what do you want from me
>>722870657probably someone involved in the creation of the mod and doesn't want his work to be forgotten or something.
>>722870604Wait is there no sisterfucker ending? Why am I playing this then?
IIRC only in Knight of Lodis archers get a malus multiplier just by being archers and are forever fated to be ass.In psp and reborn their nerf ends once you breach defenses or make use of racial or other bonuses. Then they still shred.
>>722870675frankly I'd just prefer if you'd be quiet and stop mentioning the abortion that is the psp version along with bloatware OV.
>>722870687That would make sense actually given how that sperg inevitably brings that mod up.
>>722870730Since Knight of Lodis was mentioned, reminder that canon doesn't matter and you should choose a happy ending with Eleanor.
>>722871095Sorry anon, the speedrun bad ending is canon for knight of lodis.
>>722862707Sometimes a newly available weapon is made to be compatible with more classes. For a class that already specializes in that type, they already have superior options. But for other classes it's the best option they have in that category.
>>722869316no cause fft is the better game
>>722871095Based
>>722870730I'm pretty sure SNES and TKoL do class based mods. Besides, if you want a TKoL Archer, you make a Hawkman.>>722870768As far as I'm aware OV is a solo effort by Raics who likes all versions. The mod just has annoying fans.
>>722867254That's not true for physical elements, but for natural elements. If you have a water element knife, it does nothing, except adding x% to fire enemies on top of the damage. Iirc has some weird multiplier to the overhead damage. The exception is when you have a weapon that has anti race traits and element traits. Endgame the most important factor is race boni, as this will be added on top everytime, not just in 1 / 8 cases. I'm convinced that this was done on purpose, else elemental weapons. Will be op. The devs wanted fights to take at least 15 minutes, that's the reason the mutilated armor, defense and elemental systems.
>>722871415>boniIts bonus and bonuses.
>>722867832Yes, except that I didn't buy tactics and kept playing tor/ov.
>>722871415>the devs wantedNo. Also, just read the mechanics guide that was posted earlier.
>>722868313Yes, identical to it, sure.>>722869137Kek and lol>>722869238Play knight of lodis
What happens when X gets his top position and the other factions like him? Not replaying the game for this cutscene, but i am curious.
favorite song?
>>722871508Pretty sure. Repairing the damage formula would take like 1 minute.
>>722860784>i noticed the steam version is rated poorly, whats the best way to play it The game is fine. The problem is Steam users.
>>722871415>elemental systemsFunny you say that when PSP completely murdered the elemental system present in the original. Reborn is some cope version because they didnt bring back terrain mods for element performance.
>>722871463Not in Latin, no.
>>722871479I refuse $50 for a 30 year old game lolReborn was also mad overpriced, still is, but had good discounts since release.
>>722871672Obviously it's streamlined and that didn't improve gameplay.>terrainWould've been awesome and just imagine if weather and dates would play a part, too. One can dream.
>>722871741I payed 20 for it and that's extremely generous of me. I do like the version, albeit it being mutilated. I do expect se to make new tactics games.I'd like a remaster of ffta and 2 for 30 and suikoden remaster and to2 and fft2 and a vagrant story tactics remake. Ill pay gladly 120 for this complete package, thx.
>>722871658>it would take one minuteOne Vision which psp fags treat like the bible has been constantly iterating on psp's jank ass formula for YEARS before it got something remotely passable out of it.The original so wild that being behind by like two levels could automatically invalidate some units offensively.The closest thing they could have done was use a cope fix by putting all the weapons on the same formula and then just invert str/dex for some weapons and even then they'd have to do a balance pass on all strength values.
>>722871726You arent speaking latin, fuck off.
>>722870708bros...
>>722872029I just did
>>722865201steam I hate it
>>722872147final fantasy tactics has real sister marriage
>>722872151You're multilating the word. Bonus was used as an adjective back then but you're using its english meaning and trying to play cute with a blatantly incorrect pluralization.
>>722872304!!!
>>722871959>something remotely passable out of it.They have rewritten it completely and used community feedback. Repairing the tor formula doesn't take long, especially not fixing part of it and not the whole damage system.Fixing the part that adds elemental damage to all attacks would take one minute. They didn't do that to maintain a little balance. Tor is balanced well, you could easily beat the post game with Damascus gear. Except for the shield, the daidalos gear is completely overpriced garbage.
>>722866551I kill them all everytime
>>722872326It's obviously Danish. In any case, I should stick with English here, that's correct.
>>722866993 he killed her what a retardhope you kept a save fag
>>722872424Armchair game dev moment.
this is my one vision party from some years ago. Notice I have Sara as a ROGUE class? That's something deborn buyers paid to have taken away...that's right, don't waste money on garbage people.
>>722872571>Sara with swordmaster sprite as a rogueCringe
English uses the original plural for some words, like datum/data, bacterium/bacteria.Whatever, just wish Tor didn’t have cards and worked properly.
>>722872748Boni is incorrect, fuck off.
If I can be honest her anon's even to open up a little I cried at the end I finshed the game was like 2/3 in the morning it told me what happened to everyone and I had tears cause I didnt want it to be over
>>722872559I'm certain you wrote plenty of code, so you know how complicated it is to add a digit or two. It's clear that the algebra devs wanted a to maintain a certain balance. The effect is that 2h mage weapons got cut and no one bothered to fix it.
>>722872835In my language there is no plural for bonus anyway lol even if it was boni in latin?Languages are complicated.
>>722872571Can you change sprites? Playing fell seal now and must say I do like the customization a lot.
>>722873047no one gives a fuck about you're language
How many relics you have to farm on average to max one? Is it worth it for armor pieces or only weapons?Maxing multiple holy circlets or sage robes would be ass.Also farming Heavenly Generals multiple times.
>>722873126i do
>>722873085Generics change sprites when you change their class but not named npcs. You can use a cheat to change any character sprite on the website though but I've never triedhttps://ogre-db.github.io/one-vision/cheats.html
>>722872993You're not getting it are you? Its trivial to make an adjustment to a formula. The problem is what happens to the rest of the game when you do make those adjustments.For example, 2H Weapons giving bonus spell damage is trivial to fix. And mages would still default to 1H anyway for mechanical reasons. The problem is when you start changing things like bow damage formula or elemental damage bonus being always active. That can have serious implications.
>>722872849yeah the game made me tear eyed in some parts, like when you talk to your father and he tells you to protect your sister
>>722873304That's not a given, but can of course backfire. Depends on a billion things. You think they wanted to correct it, but simply couldn't?
I could never 100% the game, I don't want to tarnish my zero casualty/Chariot run even on post game. You will miss out on some things if you don't kill your units like that Chapter 4 specific scene if Catiua dies on a specific mission or that Snapdragon versions of cursed weapons are counted different on the percentage.I hate the Chaos Frame and Loyalty system. It gets in the way of managing your team and kills. You run on PotD and it actually slowly mess with your loyalty to other units because you keep killing Bakram undeads. Thats why I run Denam solo once I make him eat all the stat raising charms. Thanks to this, he himself is the most dangerous on some specific missions because of doppelgangers that can 100% copy your stats and skills.Didn't even make it on Law route because I got already burnt after PotD grinding and the quick save abuse on collecting relics there.
