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>>722870612
this shit was so kino, theres nothing like it anymore
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>>722870703
This
Even with cartoony characters they still wrote a sincere story
If KH was made today they would have a character being self aware how it looks a bit silly constantly
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>>722871141
How is this franchise even a thing
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>>722870703
its just fanfiction you would find in a autistic teens notebook.
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>>722870612
They didn't go far enough with referencing Disney materials and having it interact with each other in my opinion.
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>>722871141
it's so fucking stupid

i love it
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>>722871248
At first I thought this was shop'd because I didn't remember any realistic characters but then I remembered Pirates of the Caribbean. I mean there's also Tron but that's more obvious with the glowing suits.
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>>722871248
>Goofy: Heh. Where there's a will there's a rape HYUK!
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>>722871551
Donald and goofy look tired bros...
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>>722871141
did he dieded?
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>>722871141
Seeing donald duck vaporize one of the big bads and die in the process was one of the funniest vidya moments I've ever experienced. I was playing through the game with my brother and we had to stop for like five minutes cause we couldn't stop laughing.
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>>722871842
it was painful
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Reminder, in KH3 Sora, Donald, and Goofy are complacent being on Jacks ship while they murder an entire ship filled with the British.

No one talks about this, its fucking hilarious.
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>>722873345
Good.
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>>722870612
That does not explain the etymology of that word at all Mickey Mouse.
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The Keyblade is so cool
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>>722871838
>Donald and goofy look tired bros...

Gewarsh!
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I bought the collection at a steam discount and I'm playing them all. These are my reviews so far:

>Kingdom Hearts Final Mix - 4/10
It's aged like shit. The story isn't stupid enough to be funny yet, the gameplay is sluggish and repetitive, the Disney worlds feel empty and dry, the gummi ship sucks, magic sucks, the camera S U C K S, the difficulty spikes at the end are absurd, there's way too many enemies, and most of the game is you running around confused, not knowing what to do

>Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories - 1/10
I hate everything about it

>Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days - 65/10
There's 26 scenes of them sitting on the roof eating ice cream, and 4 scenes of them on the roof NOT eating ice creams. So that's 260/40, which is equal to 65/10

>Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix - 8/10
Kickass game. Loved it. Everything the first should've been

>Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix - 8/10
Positively surprised. Doesn't feel old and shit compared to KH2, actually plays really well. Mixing abilities to upgrade was cool, and I appreciated that the campaigns were short, so you didn't really get a chance to get sick of anything before moving on. Neat enough with the whole "seeing things from 3 different perspectives", although I did get a little bit tired by the third time

>Kingdom Hearts Re:coded
I've only watched half of it so far, but it's so fucking stupid it's legitimately funny to me. Such a complete utter waste of time

So I've still got:

>Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD

>Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep – A fragmentary passage –

>Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover

>Kingdom Hearts III

>Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind

Goddamn I love how fucking shit these games are. How can someone possibly be an actual kingdom hearts fan?
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>>722874437
>BBS given the same score as KH2
Garbage opinion
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Dad walks in thread?
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>>722874690
It does feel wrong, I might push KH2 to a 9 actually, it really is fun. Or KH2 is like 8.5 and BBS is roughly 7.8

Only thing I disliked was the whole "you must defeat boss with final blow of a combo", but i eventually figured out I could bypass that shit with lightning-spell
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>>722871248

The Goofy mod made XV hilarious
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cringe but also kino
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>>722874728
>IT'S GOOFY TIME
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>>722870612
>Ultra Badass Keyblade Master
>Literal garbage when playable

Even though Mickey stats were dog trash, he was fun to play as. Ridiculously agile.
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Seriously, how does Kingdom Hearts even exist?
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>Mickey gets angry because Goofy took a boulder to the forehead and was presumed dead
>Goofy shows up completely fine a few minutes later, saying he's used to getting conked out
It's so silly, but it fits surprisingly well
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>>722875816
Two guys on an elevator
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>>722874437
>KH1 criticized for empty worlds and 2 glazed when most of 2's worlds were a series of hallways with the odd arena
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>>722871141
Does the bird actually perish?
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>>722871141
God damn world war 1 fucked Donald up
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>>722871229
You think those autistic teens writing fanfic aren't sincere?
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>>722870612
He never says this.
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>>722874437
Magic was extremely OP in KH1 but you're gonna have a great time shitting on balloonga drop distance
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>>722876004
long and boring empty worlds are worse than the short and empty worlds with actual good combat.
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>>722870969
>If KH was made today they would have a character being self aware how it looks a bit silly constantly
Nomura and his writing cronies are still as sincere as always
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>>722876272
KH1's combat is really good, what are you on about?
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>>722876423
Zoomers don't understand why they hate things, they just repeat what their favorite streamers say
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>>722874690
This. Only some idiot with shallow understanding of KH's combat would rate both games equally.
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>>722871273
Disney themselves are extremely controlling with the games. The Frozen world in III was butchered because they didn’t want to deviate at all from the movie world.
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>>722873345
>East India Company employees trying to kill them
>innocent
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>>722871838
they know the fun will end soon and they'll be forced to go to Arendelle to find parts of a snowman in the snow around a large map
and it will be awful
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>>722874437
>kh1 magic
>the game where gravity and aero invalidate basically any encounter
>the game where you can spam the fuck out of magic with jump cancels
>sucks
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>>722877196
He sounds like the type of retard to spam Fire
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>>722877196
>>722877547
I did use these constantly, especially aero, but it just becomes "recast constantly to win", its not really fun
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>>722877196
babby
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Giving the non-faggot opinion who did level 1 crits and all that shit.

>KH1+FM. Kino of the highest order, entirely self contained, fucking wild, every world felt like playing in a remix of a Disney movie where its your job to fix the story so it largely goes how it does in the movies, weird mix of action combat and menuing, almost like the first version of what FF7Afterbirth tried. Tons of secrets, whimsy, platforming is jank and non-fm has a bad camera,. Magic felt the most fun without it just being flashy but mechanically the same, everything did something. Zantesusku or whatever is the best finisher in the series. Great super bosses. Tarzan sucks but has cure. Pure soul, amazing ending, even better in FM with the NEO-Shadow room. Gummy ship sucks but whatever. Worlds had more focus on a mix of platforming/puzzles and combat to fill the gaps between. Unique, 8.5/10

>KH2FM Crit is insanely well done, and the best level 1 crit in the series, the most kino intro I used to hate but loved it later on. Worlds sadly suffer from turning to battle arenas that are mostly just hallways with nice presentation, the combat becomes far far better. Story gets off the rails and is pretty absurd, but overall has insanely good presentation, the jump from 1 to 2 on the same console is rather insane, forms were amazing. FM content was fantastic, best final boss in the series and the Cavern of Remembrance was a nice throwback to how KH1 worked where movement and progression let you access things you couldnt earlier. Data fights were largely all good.
8/10.

>KH3Remind not my favorite but the best on crit, 2nd best level 1 crit, the Disney worlds actually looked like watching a pixar movie due to some amazing animation and attention to detail, while having to run real time. Worlds were more environmentally interesting than KH2. Story is batshit retarded at this point but still oddly fun. Best data fights and some of the best fights in gaming. 9/10.

>GBA CoM. Kino. 10/10 fuck you.
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>>722878418
GBA CoM is based and overhated, and I say that as someone who got stuck on one door in Destiny Islands because I didn't have a 1 blue
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this is still so bizzare
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>>722871229
I'd read that a million times before shit like GoW or TLoU. Just look at TGT.
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>>722876040
He does actually die and even goes to hell. and then Sora brings him back.
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>>722878998
That part of the game just feels so pointless to me.
>The good guys lose, so we'll just reset everything so they'll win
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>>722878418
Nobody who hates GBA CoM knew how to play it. I'm not saying that as if the game is hard or complicated in the slightest, people were just filtered that hard by the concept of setting up your deck to cycle through sleights.
Those same people probably get upset that games these days play themselves and don't realize that they're the reason.
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>>722879091
it was kino because Sora had to keep diving into the heart.
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>>722879091
It's even better because they all get killed in seconds while standing around like retards despite having several keyblade masters and preparing and heading out for this exact moment
It doesn't help that, at least visually, the thing that kills all of them is just a bunch of shadow heartless tied together.
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>>722870612
this is just knuckles from sonic forces
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>>722871842
yes but that timeline got erased so he's better now
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>>722871141
>all of our heroes are finally assembled
>first thing they do is get absolutely shat on by Terranort, then Donald Duck has to save all their asses
Why did Nomura do it?
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>>722874437
absolute retard
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>>722879314
She's such a cute girlboss. I feel so bad for her. I hope she knows she doesn't have to be embarrassed. It's not her fault. Dark Sora is really strong.
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>>722871141
Why didn't he use a phoenix down?
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>>722870717
>>722870789
Why was Mickey dressed as an Organization member anyway?
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>>722871141
My ducking HERO!
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>>722879759
undercover also protects from darkness
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>>722879759
The cloak was made out of material that protects wearer from THE DAHKNESS
No, im not kidding, he wears it to move around the darkness while investigating.
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>>722871229
It's exactly that kind of autistic sincerity that makes the writing so enjoyable. Funny enough, they did the same thing with Stranger of Paradise. Conceptually stupid, but sincere enough to loop around to being great again.
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>>722879506
Should have been Herc btw. Does Disney really have a rule against him dating someone else, even if it's one time many years ago? Too bad Herc didn't canonically get bitches in his movie otherwise it would have been allowed. It feels so hollow when it's with some cloud looking dude with no personality rather than an actual character. Plus just imagine how fucking cool it would be if she and Herc reunited now. Idk man, why would Aqua be into this little wimp? It would have been so much cuter if she had a thing for a real man. A real hero.
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>>722873154
>He's just standing there
>MENACINGLY
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>>722880141
Re:Coded is so fucking pointless
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>>722876330
oh... now everything makes sense...
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>>722880115
SOVL
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>>722879759
He was walking the road to dawn with Riku, which involves going through darkness.
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DUAL WIELD
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>>722880264
yeah but the gameplay is goated
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>>722880264
>it's fun
>it's pointless
Commit. Suicide. Shill.
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>>722880492
you first troon
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>>722880264
Worst part is that it has easily the best combat out of the post KH2 spin offs, but the fact that so much of the game is wasted on the world gimmicks is sad.
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two decades later, I can safely say this was one of the most ambitious crossovers of all time
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These "people" who claim to be kingdom hearts fans should not be allowed to speak period, let alone about kh. All they do is bitchmoan for NO PURPOSE. They have no soul. And they lie. They claim to be the fanbase but they're not. Little fucking children who want to go to Disney movie worlds are. No these faggots who do nothing but complain want to go to final faggotry worlds and that's it. KILL YOUR FUCKING SELVES!!!!!!
Like why do you think we want to hear you bitching? If you don't like it and haven't since 2003 WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD STILL TO THIS MOTHER FUCKING DAY??!!!!!
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>>722880809
my uncle and i used to play this game.
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>>722880726
You ok bro?
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>>722879391
this was genuinely the coolest thing ever when I was 13
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>>722880809
I lose
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>>722880726
>Left
KH1 enjoyer
>Right
(You), a schizophrenic ESL with 0 (zero) standards, trying desperately to dehumanize everyone around you.
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>>722879262
This.
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>>722881581
then i win
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>>722873345
It should also be noted that nobody questions Sora, Donald and Goofy joining the Chinese army in KH2.
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>>722882520
Who would berate you into killing yourself sooner, Seifer or Xemnas?
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>>722874437
>magic damage scales with total mp
>go staff
>one shotting everything with blizzard which fills up immediately since it only costs a fraction of one MP
>get to Atlantica and shit on all the enemies with magic
The best RPGs are those where knowing how the game works actually makes a night and day difference.
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>>722870717
>Dingdong laugh hysterically
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>>722877196
>erm but you can spam it
Still feels like shit to use
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>>722874437
KH1 is the best game
desu the only low points are chernabog and giant ursula
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>>722883683
relative to what other games in the series?
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>>722883954
>desu the only low points are chernabog and giant ursula
And Atlantica
And Wonderland
And Deep Jungle
And Neverland
And Oogie Manor
And Linked Worlds
And the Gummi Routes

>>722883986
Relative to good gameplay in general
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>>722884068
simply wrong the game is great
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>And Neverland
you aren't even trying
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>>722883954
Even Chernabog was pretty sick outside of the flight controls
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>>722879391
>hades calls auron "the mother of all bad guys"

Why did he say this? Auron doesn't do anything bad in FFX.
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>>722870612
Good god, y'all
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>>722884635
I think it's Hades thinking he's bad for letting Braska become the final aeon without knowing or giving any context.
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I'll admit I teared up on 1 and 2's thousand acre woods endings.
Fuck 3 for ruining that world
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>>722884068
>Neverland
>Wonderland
>Deep Jungle
boo hoo hoo, not linear enough? not a series of corridors connecting room to room? too confusing for wittle baby?
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>>722874437
>thinking 1 is half as good as 2
retard alert
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>>722871141
I shouted K I N O when this masterpiece happened.
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>>722884841
same bro, same.
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>>722880264
Maybe.
Still it was the best handheld KH game.
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>>722871248
>GORSH, the eunuch is dying!
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>>722884689
That would be strange if it was the case. I mean it's less strange than the 3 sluts from FFX-2 showing up as chibi pixies but I really don't get what nomura was going for here. Auron didn't let braska and jecht die because he was a dick they just thought it was the only way to stop sin.
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What are they plotting?
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>>722884841
3's Hundred Acre Woods was so fucking bad. Literally just play this one minigame like three times and then fuck off without ever having a reason to go back there. Twilight Town in general was just wasted potential. You can't even go to the train station.
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>>722885692
>Yuna, you cast stop on sora. I'll pull his shoes and paine you get first dibs on his feet cuz you won the coin toss. Ready? Go Team!
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>KH3 Donald
>World Order! World order!
>KH1 Donald
>
What happened? Why the change?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0ntJ-La5U
This is so embarrassing.
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>>722885858
S O U L
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>>722873154
It’s GOOFY TIME!
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>>722871248
>KH1
>Hey lets put these characters and monsters in Disney settings and have a fun time seeing how these worlds get messed up
>Alice gets blamed for what the Heartless are doing
>Claytons desire to hunt gorillas draws them to an otherwise useless world
>Jafar and the heartless use the Genie to further the larger plan
>Pinocchio's mere existence warrents plot relevant investigation into how a literal puppet can receive a heart
>Jack Skelington immediately tries to use the heartless for Halloween
>Admittedly the other 3 worlds dont do much they are originally written
>KH2
>Its the movie but Sora, Donald, and Goofy (and the heartless) are there
>Second visits help but they are too short and not very interesting
what the fuck actually happened?
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>>722884972
>>722884454
I suppose you enjoyed navigating, fighting and controlling a camera in rooms about four Soras wide (Neverland)
And a boring fetch quest into a tedious boss (Wonderland)
And running back and forth between the same four rooms for an hour (Deep Jungle)

There is a reason why Deep Jungle and Wonderland are the most common places where people drop the game.
They fucking suck and always have.
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>>722885692
I think it's really funny how little KH2 makes sense outside of the timeframe it released in. It's so incredibly obvious that Advent Children released around the time that KH2 did, which is the only reason those designs are in the game. People who go through the entire series today don't have the context of 20 years ago.
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>>722880560
always makes me giggle
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>>722886120
I can only assume that they were more constrained in the second game after the first game became super popular. Most of the Disney worlds in 2 are downright awful, and most of the reasoning behind why the Organization members are there in the first place is just contrivance, whereas in 1 it really did feel like Sora came from the same exact universe as everyone else.
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>>722886170
>Advent Children
Is this why they don't acknowledge the fact that you already know what Sephiroth looks like, and likely whooped his bussy?
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>>722886357
>most of the reasoning behind why the Organization members are there in the first place is just contrivance
I agree but I enjoyed Luxord abusing the laws and curses of Port Royal, though I dont even really remember why he was there, it was just entertaining
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>>722886360
Was Sephiroth in the memory flashbacks at the beginning of the game? I don't recall if he was or not. Could be that he and Sora had their memories wiped of each other.
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>>722885829
Bob Iger came to his house and took Daisy hostage, if he didn't keep the world order she goes
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>>722870717
>>722870789
>>722870612
I just now realized why skin face Mickey is so shit. He was designed to always smile
His mouth shape get weirder when it is down, specially in 3D, it feels like it is slouching out of his school. His eyes are too small and placed too low in his face, his forehead area is too big and mixes weirdly with what is supposed to represent his upper face, so when he frowns eveythings looks overly-stretched
I can't belived I'm saying this, but modern-Mickey is modern-Sonic done wrong
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>>722879258
Nomura was incredibly pleased with his idea of "many small weak things come together to make one powerful thing" with the Demon Tide, which is why we have to fight it six times and it effortlessly rapes and murders all of the characters in a few seconds.
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>>722886509
I think an argument can be made that the bonus coliseum fights are not canon, only the first 3 and Hades cup are. Seph isnt even in the original JP release.
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>>722886545
I would have to double check, but I don't think so. Cloud treats you like you've never heard the name before throughout the entire time, goes so far as to describe him instead. So probably a memory thing? I'm trying to remember if Sephiroth mentioned Sora's name when they "met" each other for the first time in kh2.
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genuine cringekino is hard to create tbqh. it is fanfiction tier, but thats why it goes hard. if it werent cringe, it'd be boring and predictable/safe.
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>>722886759
>What is Cloud doing?
>Beats me
>Hmph. By the way, you three, who are you?
>I'm not sure if we should tell ya!
>My, that's an interesting sword you're carrying
>It's the Keyblade!
>I see. So that's a Keyblade. And I take it that you must be its chosen wielder
>So what if I am?
>I wonder if it won't change its mind once I defeat you
From memory
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>>722885858
What is this, amateur hour?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0sQ9lss2c
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>>722871141
It's weird to think Donald is canonically the only black mage in existence to cast the most powerful version of the Flare spell
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>>722886939
>bahamut casts it but only in non-canon superboss fights
>the final boss of bravely default casts it with a massive god power boost
>donald duck casts it raw solo unaided but dies afterwards
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>>722879779
"I'm going to call him the T-word."
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>>722887073
YOU ARE A TROON
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>>722887027
I mean, Mickey literally whips out Ultima like 10 minutes after Donald used Zetaflare, and Mickey also used Stopza in DDD. Donald and Mickey are literally two of the strongest beings in the Final Fantasy universe. Donald is the Royal Magician for a reason. It's a shame that in comparison, Goofy is just kinda there.
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>>722887249
Whoa there chief ultima has always sucked, flare spells are unironically harder to cast.
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>>722887358
In-game sure, but in-universe aren't they supposed to be omni powerful?
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>>722887402
In final fantasy 2 ultima does flat 500 damage and is canonically supposed to be so outdated it's worthless.
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I'm still pissed these three weren't superbosses.
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>>722886827
I want to see someone edit a KH cutscene, removing Goofy Donald maybe Mickey if he's in the scene, and have it just be the OCs with MCU dialogue to see how good we have it.
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>>722887493
Maybe we'll get a bahamut boss and ff1 world in kh4.
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>>722871141
10 year-old me would've gone "holy. fr*ck."
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>>722870612
>>722870703
that doesn't make any sense
the statement is just random nonsense; It's not good, so it's called war? That's not a coherent sentence. If he had said
>None of this is good; war never is
or
>None of this is good; that's the opposite of war
or
>None of this is good; that's how war is
or anything like that, it would actually be English, but this isn't. It's like when people just stumble out sentences without understanding half the words, but none of these words are above a first-grade reading level.
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>>722887493
KH3 in general was just wasted potential. I get that they needed all that time to work on closure for the Xehanort saga, but holy fuck does it just end so flatly. I genuinely haven't played the game since release, so maybe they went back and changed a bunch of shit, but I distinctly recall the community being extremely torn on KH3 at release.
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>>722887639
>being this autistic over an edit
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>>722887639
You got baited. The quote is fake. He literally never says this.
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>>722887671
They didn't change shit they just added shit on the end where sora was harry pottering himself when he reset the timeline, then you get data organization fights with data sora number 3, then you have dead sora fight not noctis.
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>>722887671
Re:mind has a whole new ending sequence.
It's slightly better but as a whole it's still retarded
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>>722887743
thank you for providing me with inner peace
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>>722887671
You are not missing anything, the first DLC ending is even worse and more convoluted if you can believe that. I personally think the second DLC is overrated but others glaze it (the Data fight dlc)
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>>722879391
Is that fucking guts?
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>>722887904
Cloud was already emulating guts.
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Scariest moment in the franchise.
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Did Soillennials really??
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>>722887963
>asian ball jointed dolls are canon to toy story alongside the entirety of kingdom hearts
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>>722888031
I thought she was more of a rag doll.
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>>722887770
>>722887773
>>722887870
I'm still pissed off about the ending, desu. They really didn't need to turn it into sequel baiting at the last second. As much as some people may wish for it, these series can't keep going on forever. Eventually an author needs to know where their story must end, so perhaps a new one can begin. But all this is doing is drawing out the inevitable. KH4 will feel about as contrived as Halo 4, 5, and Infinite. Just say they live happily ever after and be done with it. But I guess even Disney themselves can't follow that saying anymore.
KH1, CoM, and KH2 are the true trilogy anyway.
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>>722880980
>The last child slain gets the big bottle of 7up
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>>722887493
Summons got condemned to gacha hell.
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>>722888219
I unironically wish they went through the effort of getting the true secret ending and fighting Lingering Will. Chris' reaction to just the snippet of BBS makes it obvious that he was clearly invested in it.
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>>722871141
Nomura is a sad man.
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>>722888289
Even if it was gachaslop, I miss KHUx
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>>722887249
There was a cut moment in the boss fight against old xehanort where goofy uses Goofy Turboza. It was supposed to be the big finishing move but the video card would spontaneously combust whenever the animators tried to work on it.
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>>722888198
Nomura began to relate to xehanort more than sora and decided to make xehanort a good guy. So he was groomed into following a prophecy as 5d chess by wacky ancient man, given a tragic school shooting survivor backstory, and redeemed by saying he was trying to make light dominate the new world after the apocalypse, despite it contradicting his emtire personality up to this point.
Have to kill Xehanort and Sora so that young Xehanort can be Sora's party member in the afterlife in 4.
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Do you think the Star Wars world in 4 will be only the Battle of Endor?
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>>722888508
It was always going to be limited, and luke vs darth vader and the emporer is the best opportunity for heart light darkness speeches
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>>722888464
>That period after KHUx ended and Dark Road wasn't concluded where the entire KH fandom was convinced that the player character of KHUx reincarnated as Xehanort
I miss the memes.
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>>722888565
>action switches between Sora on the Death Star II, Goofy in the space battle, and Donald on the surface battle every so often
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God, every KH sequel sucks dick. I don't think there's ever been a bigger drop off from amazing original game to awful sequels.
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>>722888659
I still prefer that as an idea, but the actual truth is almost definitely going to be that Sora is the second reincarnation of player after he groomed xehanort, so that theres a canon reason sora had a link to ventus on birth, a link to Ephemer in the keyblade graveyard, and gets to have strelitzia crushing on him.
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>>722876423
Nobody actually believes this, or at least I refuse to believe that.
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>>722886120
All dev time went into perfecting the best action JRPG combat system ever created. It was kind of worth it.
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>>722871141
Is the guy he killed even worthy of getting Zettaflare’d? Is the Kingdom Hearts power-level really that busted? I always assumed like… Ultamecia would beat Xenohort and whatever.
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>>722879779
Haven’t played KH3 but this is the funniest shit ever.
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>>722876330
>When the trailer was first released, SE was genuinely confused why everyone was laughing at it
I wish I could be as naive as old jap devs
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>>722889057
That is if the PC of KHUx ever gets referenced ever again. Who knows, especially after Missing Link was cancelled.
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>>722888659
>missing link is canceled so we'll never get to see the KHUx players second life
I fucking hate it so god damn much, I want something to chew over and meme about instead of another 10 years of sequel waiting
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>>722887671
>I get that they needed all that time to work on closure for the Xehanort saga, but holy fuck does it just end so flatly.
I haven't played it since release but I recall most of the game being glorified filler and Xehanort not being relevant until the last 10% of the game
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>>722889302
If you wank kingdom hearts to the highest degree of wankery possible
>a "world" in kingdom hearts is its own universe/dimension becayse zeus moved the stars in hercules
>the weakest heartless can destroy this world universe if it finds tge world jeyhole unsealed (ignore that this us a hax and declare basic shadows to be universal)
>keyblade wielders destroy multiple shadows with single attacks, therefore they are multiversal
>terraflare is a planetary level attack
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Dearly Beloved is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs ever composed.
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The furry agenda needs to be stopped
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>>722886120
Atlantica also has King Triton bring up how keyblade wielders should not be fucking around with other worlds. It was treated as something serious back then, but that plot point has been somewhat ignored afterwards.
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>>722889663
Powerlevel wiki tier post. You shouldn't forget that shadows are also immune to anything less than multiversal attacks as proven by the wooden sword.
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>>722889057
>so that theres a canon reason sora had a link to ventus on birth
Ventus and Sora connected because they were both on Destiny Islands at the time

As for Ephemera, we still don't know his ultimate fate so the reason for his appearance could be anything. The whole "unchained" thing is still kind of up in the air, and he was said to have been getting "close to" that state. Since both his statue in Scala and his appearance in KHIII show him still as a teenager, we can assume something happened or he did something shortly after founding Scala.

Also the issue with Sora being Player is that Player2 rather quickly started regaining their memories, and Sora has not done this. Additionally, Player2 died of old age, which should not lead to reincarnation as that was facilitated by Chirithy.
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>>722889769
Thats why I called it wanking the series off.
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>>722889663
Oh so this series just fucks with the
>if X beats Y and Y beats Z, that must mean X is stronger than Z
theorem powerscalers love using. So is Hercules from the titular Disney movie weaker than a single heartless because of this?
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>>722889846
not a complaint, maybe I should have called you a powerlevel wiki admin instead?
>>722889861
'fraid so
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>>722889491
Don't worry, now you get to live in the era where zoomers make fake announcement videos on TikTok that get misconstrued as news, with obnoxious speculation about how they're adding a Simpsons world to the next game.

>>722889628
>most of the game being glorified filler and Xehanort not being relevant until the last 10% of the game
Yes, literally. The final battle just happens immediately following Big Hero 6 with very little lead-up to it. It's not like when you to go End of the World or the World That Never Was for the first time. You just take your ship and fly to the Keyblade Graveyard.
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>>722886120
I can't speak for KH2, but by KH3, Disney became too big for any writer to control and would routinely set restrictions on what the writers are allowed to do for each world.
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>>722887249
goofy's power is being fucking immortal, lad gets hit with all kinds of shit and even a boulder hitting his noggin at terminal velocity gives him a good nap at worse
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>>722889987
The Kings Shield
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Is Kingdom Hearts canon to Mickey Mouse
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>>722889769
no, that's just the sword being shit. i don't get where this idea that they're immune from weapons comes from, fucking tarzan stabs them and beast just rips them to shreds bare-handed, and then you got alladin and mulan and all sorts of characters. please remember that that that wooden sword was being used to beat up your friends 10 minutes ago so yeah no shit it can't kill fucking nightmare creatures it's a children's toy
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>>722890090
Xion, followed by strelitzia, followed by player(female). Distantly followed by larxene. But out of those 5 olette. And aqua is below all those shown.
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>>722890090
Naminé
I just love blonde hair
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>>722890142
I think hes pulled out his keyblade in recent cartoons or something.
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>>722890142
Steamboat Willie and the Musketeers are, so
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>>722890090
Selphie my beloved
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>>722889901
>zoomers make fake announcement videos on TikTok that get misconstrued as news
no different than the school yard/gamefaq rumors aside from the sheer scale of it all nowadays, guess we really arn't so different afterall
nah fuck zoomers, they should be forced to play KH1 black label release on a 4:3 12inch tv before they can start having an opinion
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>>722890173
Anon...
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Are Kingdom Hearts games actually fun? I’ve heard they’re like, the best action rpg ever. Should I play on hard mode on a first run or is hard mode made for those who’ve played the game before
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>>722890221
Namine in CoM had more chemistry with Sora than post-KH1 Kairi ever did with him.
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>>722886170
>>722890090
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>>722890090
fucking namine easily, when i was a kid i only had 2 and CoM so i didnt know who kairi was and totally thought Sora should hook up with Namine, also she's PURE FUCKING SEX HOLY SHIT SHE'S GOT SOME FUCKING HIPS AND THAT DRESS'S TOO TIGHT TO LEAVE ANYTHING TO THE IMAGINATION
she's got a cute butt, too. and boobs, i guess
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>>722890297
Proud is annoying it just makes unlocking secret endings easier if theres no critical option.
1 and 2 are fun, chain of memories is controversial, days and coded are movies now, bbs sucks and ddd is only slightly better just because of the movement. 3 is slightly better than those 2.
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>>722890264
Even if they did play it that way which I know full well of what that's like because the TV I had had the most fucked up brightness on it possible so any area where it was dark was literally pitch black they'd only play it because it's "ironic" to them, and they can't just admit to actually liking anything that can be deemed as "cringe"
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>>722890090
You already ordered them from best to worst.
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>>722871141
It goes hard with this song.
>lost soul x the lost soul down - NBSPLV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWERLR2znU
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>>722890297
I would recommend playing 1 on proud and 2 on critical. Nothing wrong with bosses taking a few tries.
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>>722890282
i... i...i got too autistic... i couldn't see the bait........
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>>722890427
I remember thinking hollow bastion and the maleficent fight were the worst for the same reason, good memories desu
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>>722890090
You already ordered them from worst to best.
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>>722884647
underrated
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>>722890297
Whenever people say KH has the best battle system ever, they're mostly talking about KH2FM. Not that the other game battle systems are trash, but 2 just perfected the movement, abilities and fluidity of the combat. Definitely give KH1 and KH2 a try, and play in Critical Mode. It's probably the best way to experience the game, Easy/Normal mode just lets you blow through everything without any challenge.
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>>722890297
>Should I play on hard mode on a first run or is hard mode made for those who’ve played the game before
Hard mode kinda turns the games from braindead mashing into sometimes planning/thinking.
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>>722870612
>>722870717

Kingdom hearts was always super cringe. Early 2000s transitioning from child to adolescence, from disney to edgy anime
Target audience 11-13
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>>722890703
Kingdom hearts is the same flavor of autism as naruto.
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>>722890703
cool things will always be cool, your eyes have atrophied from age.
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>>722890625
incorrect, they didnt include kh1 kairi
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>>722890297
KH2 is an amazing ACTION rpg
KH1 is an amazing action RPG
They both do very well in each regard, but 2 is the game to play if you want to be an anime character flipping around and doing flashy attacks while 1 is the game you want to play if you want to be a child figuring out how to use a giant heavy key and having to rely on reading his enemies attacks before getting the hang of his weapon.
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>>722890793
The climax of his story is kino, but it still doesn't justify 5 hours of Terra being a gullible dumbass and his terrible voice acting.
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>>722890793
I'll say it that Terra was way fucking cooler when you knew nothing about him, and Lingering Will was the only thing we had to go off of. Terra in BBS is genuinely the most braindead retarded character in the entire franchise. It is insane how much this dude fucks up literally everything.
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>>722890793
What's the deal with the armors anyway.
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>>722890886
>>722890902
>Eraqus tells the guys Xehanort is his old buddy to be trusted
>Terra trusts him
>this is somehow retarded
Shiggy
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>>722889756
I had completely forgotten about that, was cool that a deity knew what was happening outside of their domain even if they couldn't effect it much
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>>722890949
They act like the cloaks that the Organization members wear to protect from darkness, while also just providing protection in general because, you know, it's armor.

>>722890963
Bro come on the dude literally caved Peter Pan's skull in because an obvious bad guy like Captain Hook told him to.
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>>722877196
tbf it sucks until you get those 2, and even then for a casual player the first 3 spells don't really have any particular niche except for tech points or finishing off enemies unless you go out of your way to use them. im not gonna act like kh3 has the best combat but at least magic made sense cuz you were spamming it to build meter for ultimate moves or whatever, meanwhile in kh1 i dont see why i shouldnt save my spells for cure when bashing things skulls in works fine and only gravity and stop have particular niches (fat fucks and flying bastards, respectively)
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>>722890583
>>722890649
>>722890692
Alright I might play KH1 soon since I have the collection on PS5 cause I got it on sale for like $5 and I’m tired of replaying the same action RPGs over and over.
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>>722890886
>>722890902
If you're paying attention when playing the game and it's still fresh in your mind, he's really only as gullible, if not less gullible, than Ventus or Aqua.
The bad things that he himself actually does are little to none. He largely just appears in a world, is skeptical of the bad guy and ultimately tells them to fuck off.
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Reminder that Terra has never lost a fight.
He's the strongest Keyblade "warrior".
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>>722891036
It's like any other game. If you're not building for magic specifically, obviously it's less useful than using melee.
KH1 was more of an RPG so you could build for magic and it would cause magic to be insane. 2 got rid of a lot of that so it's largely just a supplemental tool for your regular attacking.
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>>722880264
i think the only point was to play sorta kh1 on the go.
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>>722891030
The worst crime that BBS ever did was removing the capes from their armor.
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>>722891112
He also fights two of the XIII replicas at once during that big fight in remind
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>>722891193
I don't understand why they didn't change that in the FM release. The way it pops out during the cutscene at the end is comical.
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>>722879091
It sets up Remind so its kino actually
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>>722891170
i dont think it even needed to be that way, gravity and stop are fucking amazing ideas for spells because they both directly solve issues you'll have regardless of whether you're using magic or melee, namely damage sponges and fast fucks like those paratroopers. cure and aero have obvious niches but if fire, blizzard, and thunder(actually this one's the best aoe and far away one, so its kinda fine) had more niches, then people wouldn't be ignoring them. they kinda hit the nail with the pirates in kh2 by applying elemental effects on them, if they did that in kh1 then fire would be the dedicated final touch magic cuz you'd just hit some low health enemy and then leave them to burn to death, while blizzard's shotgun spread would slow groups of enemies and be really useful in mobfights
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>>722874437
y u even talking nigga y'all like a fagget with an opinion n shit gyatt dang
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>>722890424
>bbs sucks
no you suck
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It genuinely baffles me to this day that there's been not a single other video game that has even so much as attempted to replicate the combat of the KH games, specifically 1 and 2.
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>>722871141
Based Donald, gave his life without hesitation
Terranort was absolutely ganking everyone unopposed
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>>722886140
hey fuck you i liked neverland, had some neat exploration and was a nice tutorial for the first "real" world because it required exploring but made every room relatively small boxes so it was easy for players to search every nook and cranny
also lady luck looks cool as hell
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>>722891641
>been not a single other video game that has even so much as attempted to replicate the combat of the KH games,
ffvii remake
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>>722891695
Yeah, Square did this with FF15 too.
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>>722891641
They can't. It seems simple on its face but a lot goes into making combat feel right.
You see many ARPGs clearly trying to get DMC or Souls or KH combat going but they don't feel satisfying at all. It looks kind of like the combat of those games but just replicating the appearance and some core concepts like launchers or air juggling is not enough.
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>>722891695
>>722891746
Neither of those games play anything like KH1
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>>722891659
Anon...
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>>722891782
They play like KH2 and that's a good thing.
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>>722889371
This but unironically
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>>722891796
ok this ones not bait these are legitimate criticisms, and they're right that deep jungle sucks ass
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>>722891763
The thing about KH1 combat specifically is that it has a lot of weight to it. Sora doesn't just float in the air when he attacks, he's gradually falling, which can lead into your combos either not fully connecting or finishing. No other game even comes remotely close to feeling that way.
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>>722874437
Based. KH1 aged so fucking badly that even back at the PS2 era I got hard filtered by it. You fags can hate KH2's level design all you want, that game was actually fucking playable
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>>722892003
You confused Wonderland and Neverland.
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>>722891641
It's a really unique system. It'd be really hard to replicate it let alone put your own spin on it.
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>>722892209
I loved KH1 as a kid. I replayed it a few years ago and I was aghast.
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>>722892209
>I got hard filtered by it
You sucking shit at video games is not a reason to make sequels worse.
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>>722891641
how many fucking gravitys is this guy gonna use, you only need 1 to wipe half their hp
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>>722892402
Hollow Bastion is a good level, I'll give you that.
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>>722892251
i... damn it, not again...
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>>722887493
Insane that the only superboss in the original release was a fucking generic heartless. People praise the Re:Mind fights, but aside from Yozora they're all just repurposed existing characters who were already fought in previous games. Every KH should have at least one superboss from SE and Disney. If they reuse Sephiroth again I'm gonna murder everyone at both companies. KH4 is obviously going to be about Sora playing the Reaper's game in Shibuya, give me a Sho Minamimoto superboss. Give me a superboss against fucking Mater or Kimahri, I don't fucking care. Just actually give a shit this time please, SE.
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>>722891030
>an obvious bad guy like Captain Hook
Imagine for a moment you do not have the preexisting knowledge that Captain Hook is a villain
Imagine for a moment that you travel to a far-off land with a people and culture you know nothing about

Do YOU assume the first person you meet is evil?

At any rate, Peter Pan was always the real villain of that movie
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>>722891695
VII Remake's combat system is actually just Parasite Eve without the range dome
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>>722892735
as long as he knows that a pirate is a criminal then that's 1 point off the trust-o-meter
after that it's that he just talks and acts like a shady villain
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>>722892659
>KH4 is obviously going to be about Sora playing the Reaper's game in Shibuya
Why do you keep setting yourself up for disappointment?
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>>722892849
And why would Terra know what a pirate is
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>>722892305
>Sora kept his promise despite 3's Hundred Acre Wood sucking balls
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>>722871494
Tron Ares is gonna bomb horribly and we'll STILL see a new Tron world with Jared Leto in Kingdom Hearts
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>>722873154
How did he get away with it?
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>>722892849
>like a shady villain
Terra spent his entire life with Eraqus and one (later two) other people. He wasn't consuming pop cultures and cliches his entire life.
Not that I think it's an actual reason, Terra regarded Hook with suspicion and didn't do anything besides slap around Peter Pan for being a cheeky cunt
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>>722880560
Kek
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>>722891063
KH1 is definitely one that feels its age at times, especially with platforming and Sora's cement shoes, but it's simple and satisfying and your weapon choices changing when you learn abilities at least makes it more interesting.
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MICKEY! IT'S RIKU. THEY PUT BUGS IN HIM!
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>>722892324
Not like it matters too much in 1, where pulling out vegetables in Rabbit's garden has a chance to give elixirs. Go nuts with spell spam.
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>>722870703
Kingdom Hearts never stopped being kino. It's ok if you dont believe me but its fucking true.
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>>722870612
How the fuck does anyone treat this shit franchise seriously? It's Mickey Mouse and other Disney kiddie characters acting like fucking edgelords alongside trannime bait characters. KH fans are actual manchildren
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>>722893225
I'M STUPID AHAHAHA *explodes*
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>>722885829
If Donald wasn't so autistic in KH1 then Riku probably wouldn't have stayed with Maleficent
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>>722870612
"Stop, we're not alone..."
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>>722892735
>Do YOU assume the first person you meet is evil?

No I assume they are gypsies
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>>722892735
KH aside Peter Pan is a book writen by a mentally ill dude and Captain Hook is actually far more relatable in the book and the musical than anything Disney ever made
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>>722893181
Is it one of those games where you pause to heal or is healing real time
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>>722893181
KH1's gameplay might feel a bit aged but the simple straightforward story (well relatively) sure holds up better than anything else in the series.
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Mickey was genuinely one of the best things about KH2.
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>>722893447
That's not mickey, that's public domain mickey
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>>722893423
I don't have many problems with KH1's story, just its gameplay.
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>>722891803
They have literally nothing in common with KH2
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>>722893372
I fucking hate Hunchback, because it has so much effort put into so many details as a film but ultimately it's a "Christianity bad cause it oppresses minorities and sex workers" message which is braindead
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Whats in the box?
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>>722870703
I agree with the first poster. I don't care if you think its cringe OP. I think it was hilarious and kino. These days he'd probably be a non-serious quipping retard instead like every other Marvelized character in media.
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>>722893309
Because I had a childhood and my heart and soul remained in tact when I grew up. And I grew up in the 90s and 00s when we had fun. And grew up with cartoons that would make you laugh and cry. Like when Mickeys son fucking died.

And the Matrix was only a few years prior and the COOLEST FUCKING THING in made kids shoot up schools on trenchcoats and shit. And Final Fantasys belts and zippers were too. So you have comedy tragedy and chuuni which is like a holy trinity of kino.
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>>722893421
You have a command menu on the side with shortcuts to heal in real time. No one knows this but pressing triangle makes Donald heal you real time to
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>>722893421
Healing in real time. You eventually get Cure which heals a fair bit, and Donald can use it too. It can be interrupted, but Final Mix/1.5 eventually gives you Leaf Bracer which gives you some invincibility frames. Same goes for items, but you'll have to learn to scroll through the menu to use them (later games let you put them on your shortcut menu) and they have a bit of a delay in comparison, plus they don't have an ability to grant invincibility.

>>722893423
KH2's is mostly fine, but it's definitely early 2000s core/edge. It still works fine as a sequel to the first. CoM is also a surprisingly decent enough story between Disney world revisits.
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>>722893537
Frollo tried to genocide all the gypsies and Quasi Modo and Esmerelda and the priest who saved Quasi were good Christians. Esmerelda has a whole song praying to God. Pretty sure the knight guy is Christian too. It's just you know, he genocide. And she wasnt an actual whore in the movie it's a fucking disney movie. You have a fucking persecution complex. I can't even POST FROLLO HATING GYPSIES WITHOUT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS TAKING ALL THE FUN OUT IT
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>>722893835
The brainrot from these people is insane.
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>>722893835
It's hilarious, Christians are the largest and most powerful religion on the planet yet they constantly act like they're a light shove away from being utterly destroyed and wiped out by their enemies.
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>>722871141
Damn, Donald is strong!
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I just really miss Frollo's voice actor cause I loved reboot as a kid and wish he had a chance to be in DDD. He only died a few years prior.
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>>722893954
>posts a CoM world
So CoM supremacy, right.
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>>722893537
No? Frollo uses it as a shield and excuse for his rampage against the Gypsies, but the movie makes it a point that he's the crazy one, and he tries to convince himself getting horny for Esmeralda and her not wanting to fuck him must mean she's the embodiment of lust and must burn. The actual priests are otherwise pleasant people who help out others in the movie multiple times and chastise Frollo multiple times.
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>>722893596
The Kh4 release date
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>>722894052
I loved Reboot as a kid too, though it's one of those shows I really don't want to revisit because my blurry, incoherent, nostalgic memories are probably better than the actual thing.
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>>722887671
It would've been better to at least make the climax of your series decent. All the boss fights felt so rushed and the pay off for all these characters since CoM got an meh pay off. At least REmind added in reaction commands, expanded story fights, and playable characters albeit briefly. Kairi having a boss fight of her own and a game centered around he has me thinking even Square knew she got shafted
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KH4 needs a return to The Pastoral Symphony and give everyone a centaur form
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As much as 2 meanders with the Disney worlds, at least you would still fight against Disney villains in them.
Fucking 3 had the titans, Evil Baymax and Davy Jones. No Zurg, no... ok, the other worlds were pretty shit to have a villain fight...
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>>722893914
>largest and most powerful religion on the planet
Bullshit, culturally. Most people who claim they're Christian certainly don't act like it and Christianity has zero political power since centuries ago
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>>722889684
>a duck and a dog
>could've just turned them in a duck and a dog
>parrot and turtle instead
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>>722893781
>KH2's is mostly fine, but it's definitely early 2000s core/

It's insane how much the late 90s movie Dark City inspired it.

>Dark City is a city floating in the middle of space
>TWTNW has a capital city named Dark City

>Ayylmaos called edgy dark leather called Strangers dont have souls or emotions and experiment with people to try to get souls
>Nobodies and Hearts

>They control buildings and change them around
>Xemnas moves buildings around in TWTNW

>Protagonist of Dark City has amnesia and his role in life was changed by the ayylmaos who control everyone's memories
>Protagonist just wanted to go to a beach that doesnt exist
>Namine and DiZ fucked with Roxas put him in an fake life and he just wanted to go to a beach
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>>722894235
This image gave me flashbacks of all those Organization XIII comics and AMVs made from the few cutscenes each one had back in the day. Good times. I probably didn't need to learn what yaoi was at a young age though.
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>>722894353
Remember the Kingdom Harts: The Stupid Files videos? Those were hilarious.
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>>722871141
3's cutscenes suck so hard, I hate it.
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>>722871141
made me whisper "kino" under my breath
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>>722894404
Remember when this was the fake box art for KH3 for like years?
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>>722894404
>vids are still up
Honestly I'm happy little bits of old internet culture like that can just keep existing.
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Post Sully scaring Venitas
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I want to impregnate Aqua
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v-cast supremacy
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>>722894614
I used to also want to but then 3 happened and she was the most pathetic, retarded character in the whole cast. I don't know how people think Kairi was the worst off when this clown was constantly embarrassing herself.
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>>722894353
>Going onto KH2Insider or whatever to look at Japanese screenshots and subtitles of KH2 before release, having to rely on other posters to translate (it's just a bunch of teenagers pretending they know Japanese)
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>>722894153
>though it's one of those shows I really don't want to revisit because my blurry, incoherent, nostalgic memories are probably better than the actual thing.

Go do it. That's only true for the first season. The first season is almost purely a kids show extremely limited by censors and tech but groundbreaking for it's time. Season 2 they knew they were getting cancelled and started more serialized storylines and slightly better animation. The finale is absolute kino and starts an insanely imaginative pulpy scifi adventure story and survival war story. Season 3 went to YTV and has no censors and is legitimately really fucking good and has a lot better animation. It's like when you play old games and despite being old the graphics feel really good. Theres a lot of subtext you dont get as a kid. Theres just insane shit like Emzos death and everything getting mature without getting too edgy. DO NOT watch season 4 at all. It just ends at Season 3 trust me.
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Post boss themes
For me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa7SyxcKTbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF0lwTxRfhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpmM-4DPGFY
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>>722894353
>probably didn't need to learn what yaoi was at a young age though.

At least you never experienced the yaoi paddle.
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>>722886641
No, it's just that the early KH models are shit at doing any emotions other than what expression they were modelled with. There are examples of 3D Mickey emoting better.
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>>722894724
>Ignores the best theme in the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL0d9AYeyZc
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Nothing will ever top the secret ending of 1. 2 never topped it. No media will ever top it. No film will ever top it. This was peak humanity. Peak culture. The world ended after this.
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>>722894614
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I just realized that all of the KH music in Smash Ultimate are tracks that have absolutely nothing to do with the Disney elements. For instance, notice that Destiny's Force is in but not The Deep End.
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>>722874437
>Such a complete utter waste of time
Re:com is a fucking waste of time, but the game itself was pretty fun.
I might even say it has the best combat of all the handheld games.
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>>722880980
>His entire self esteem revolves around a game were he beats up kids with toy swords
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>>722893954
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>>722894879
>Gives you an objectively better accessory if you let him win
Always found that funny
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>>722894779
I like the destati motif well enough but I like other songs more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpmM-4DPGFY
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>>722883620
I still kind of want someone to make a Parappa the Rappa style model for Axel and cut him off when he's saying I'm so Flat(tered)
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>>722894824
I mean Re:CoM was just a bonus that came with II Final Mix originally, it's a pretty good one.
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>>722894921
Motherfucker I meant to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSV68hXaMs
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it's pretty much confirmed that he's the Master of Masters, right?
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>>722893392
Peter is a fucking monster but this doesnt make Hook good, it just makes Wendy's parents good.
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>ok I believe you
>>722873154
>>722871779
Based
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>>722894890
God why does Square hate Nomura so much? He makes the coolest fucking worlds.
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>>722895187
because he doesn't want to make worlds he wants to make boybands
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>>722895236
My guy he does the one of the best female designs. TWEWY has sex incarnate designs even with shopkeeps
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what IS Kingdom Hearts
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>>722895000
He's the only org member we have no backstory for so maybe
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>>722895314
yeah but he doesn't want to make them he just has to
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>>722893537
>"And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the firey pit!"
>says Frollo as he's desecrating a church trying to kill Esmeralda.
>ends up falling to his death into molten lead because the gargoyle he was clinging to breaks off shortly after saying this.
>implying some form of divine intervention
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>>722895346
Light
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>>722870612
Post the image of Sora unzipping Donald's brain hat
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I've always been interested in playing kingdom hearts for the blue girl, am I fooling myself?
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>>722895065
I wish we got more based parents stories or ones where it at least isn't as politically biased
Like Mary Poppins has Mr. Banks be wrong but it's clear he works his ass off for his children even if he is aloof about their personal lives and the movie also shows Ms. Banks being wrong about being a suffragist which is seriously based
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>>722895415
Considering the gargoyle's eyes light up, its mouth curls into a grin, and it laughs at Frollo before breaking, yeah God himself was punting that cunt into hell.
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>>722895560
She fucks Chad
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>>722895560
She's a non-character.
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>>722895346
It's the Jungian collective unconciousness. The heart is a metaphor for your own consciousness. When sora dives into his heart he's diving into his subconciousness. Heartless/Darkness are our Shadows.

It's weirdly psychological.
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>>722895662
I unironically want Mary Poppins in KH4 so bad. Its one of my biggest wants
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>>722879506
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>>722894614
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>>722895560
She jobs and sucks at keeping promises
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>>722896178
>Aqua rejects him
>Literally gets killed off-screen
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>>722894614
I will never forgive SE
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>>722894724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omGfEeZZ_Uk
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>Xehanort stole Terra's body
>Literally had the body of a ripped GigaChad
>Becomes a fucking dork that loses all that muscle mass and turns into a scrawny twink
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9dyS9EEo7U
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>>722876330
Could they bring Jack in Kingdom Hearts?
I don't know shit about both series but holy fuck Jack is gigabased
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>>722895560
no. she's super cute in bbs and is peak sexo in every game
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>>722893781
>It still works fine as a sequel to the first
Needing to play CoM already makes it a flawed sequel storywise if you jump straight from 1 to 2. Without knowing the context of CoM and Sora's fate after the first game, the prologue and everything to do with Namine is super confusing.
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>>722879506
Do you think he'll ever show up again?
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>>722896887
Ask Sephiroth
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>>722896887
no
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>>722886859
>That's enough
>CLICLICLICLICLICLICLICLICLICLICLICLING
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>>722897352
descend heartless angel
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>>722897352
>chad dodge roll vs virgin reaction command
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>>722895354
Luxord also.
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>>722871141
Donald and Goofy are real ones
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>>722897352
>>722897456
Never could beat him when I was younger and did it when I emulated the series and went through vanilla 2.
>Why emulate
I emulated my own copy that I owned.
>Why vanilla 2
I didn't have Final Mix and even then, limit form cheeses the Sephiroth fight.
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>>722897456
Sin harvest angel
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>>722895000
Way too many people have guessed it, and Stranger of Paradise interviews showed that Nomura hears about Western internet chatter from his coworkers. He would change it either to maintain a surprise or purely out of spite.
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Kh3 was so bad
What's the point of bringing everyone back if none of them is going to do shit and sora the cuck does everything
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>>722890090
Its impossible. They are all perfect
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>>722890090
Love em all
3 of them belong to chadxas btw
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>>722898002
>The premise of the game is saving everyone from the other games
>90% of the game is Disney filler at its most extreme
>They speedrun everything else in the final 10% of the game and nothing gets time to breathe
>Then it's over with another cliffhanger
Still better than all the non-numbered titles
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>>722871779
I cant breathe
my fucking sides
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>>722886939
Shantotto in absolute shambles.
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>>722889919
meanwhile pixar just let them to whatever and it was kino as fuck
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>>722890090
Never played the game, but I used to wank as a teenager on Kairi's schoolgirl outfit. This blue skirt still awakens something primal in me.
It's a shame becayse I really don't like Nomura.
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>>722880264
Isn't that the mobile game from like the Ngage era?
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>>722889302
In the story the big bad was basically time/world hopping to gather up all the past incarnations of himself. The one that Donald killed was a version where of himself where he had possessed the body of one of his young students and in game was basically soloing everyone. They were still basically fucked after that point.
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>>722873154
GAWSH, I know yer in here girl, I can see yer hair HYUK, stop waitin' around and come climb down my tower
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>>722884841
As always, I blame the Chinese.
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>>722898676
Dolan didn't even kill him. His piece is still standing on the "chess"board when the heroes all die. Total KWAB moment.
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>>722888659
>the entire kh fandom
More like the 3 people who actually followed the mobile story thoroughly
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>>722871217
squenix exec met a didney exec in the elevator
and they decided to merge two of the most pozzed shit ever, jrpg + didney
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>>722894824
>>722894946
I meant to say Re:coded.
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>>722898765
The fate Saiix deserved.
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>>722870717
This game is a masterpiece in comedic timing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-k6ppRkpcM
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>>722892209
>>722874437
I love 2 because the gameplay is so much better than 1, the only thing I hated was needing to grind levels for the different forms, if you want to beat the super bosses and endgame, you need to do this, and to be fair KH2 plays the best once you have high jump, double jump and flight.
The complaints about the big open maps kind of vanish when you can zip over them all, but to get to that point, grinding is literally needed.

shame KH3 dumbed it all down instead of tightening it all up, even on the games hard mode (at launch) it was baby easy mode, and I dont care for the later added critical mode where your HP is shit, I dont need my HP to be cut, I need the game to be more challenging. Not more punishing, challenging.
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>>722896576
Yeah Nomura only uses characters he designed and Jack is him. Unless it doesnt count because he is a FF1 character too.
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>>722887671
>they needed all that time to work on closure for the Xehanort saga
I've been posting on fucking Veoh about KH3 since like 2010.
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>>722898358
Not true. Pixar wouldnt let them redo movie plots. But let them do whatever the fuck else. Which ended up way better.

KH1 was going to have Al's toy barn though which would have been great.
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Yessod is Disney spelled backwards, you know.
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>>722899161
Vivi and Setzer got in despite not being designed by Nomura
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>>722874437
Yeah, KH1 is the potential man of the series. Everyone pretends to like it, but in reality they only like it for its "potential."
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is kingdom hearts worth playing if I dont have nostalgia for it or care about disneyslop
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>>722899451
No. If you dislike Disney inherently, go play another action series.
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>>722899451
Only KH2 is worth playing, but even then that game has its problems.
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>>722899417
fuck off retard
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>>722870612
I'm pretty sure this line's from sonic forces (masterpiece).
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1YBv2mWll0
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>>722897972
That means there's a nonzero chance Nomura is made of aware of the Stellafag writeups. He might even be behind the recent XV stuff after ReMIND. NEO TWEWY and SoP might be comments on Nomura's situation as games after all.

>>722899319
Vivi wasn't designed by Nomura but the people who joined him and demanded he be assigned to KH as director were assistant directors on FFIX. Nomura did however write for Setzer and make character concepts. Him and Shadow:
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>>722899667
>The Tokyo Team: If you don't let Nomura direct the Disney game we're all quitting
>The same Tokyo Team 11 years later: If you replace Nomura with someone else we're all quitting
And they did. Being Tetsuya is suffering.
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>>722899573
what the fuck did I do?
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>>722893003
what are they gonna do with her?
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>>722899729
>that time during KH1's conceptualization he just autistically said "I will not make such a game" and left the meeting room
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>>722899729
So there is a Tokyo Team? They're a real group of people? I thought it was because Square sent people to Osaka even if they were a Tokyo company.
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>>722899789
NORTED
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>>722899840
Yes they were. They were Nomura's friends. Two of them even did the Titan floor animation in FFVII. Whole bunch of shit for VIII and IX and went straight into KH to join their friend. Nomura is /ourguy/
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>>722899861
AIEEE
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>>722899904
Nomura can start being /myguy/ again once he lets go of V13. His eternal butthurt seeping through is ruining his work.
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>>722899840
Weren't the Square Osaka devs from Osaka first? I don't think that many came from the Tokyo teams.
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>>722899996
...how sure are you he's not trying to rehire his friends to make it?
>Tatsuya Kando
It's likely Kando was fired but he chose not to step in. Even if Kando chose to leave Nomura should have begged him to stay.
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>>722899996
nah, versus13 is his perfect works. if you cant handle the cringe years you dont deserve the cringekino years.
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>>722899817
CMIIW I think he stayed and showed his pitch. Sasuga Nomura. As petty and contrarian like his work parents.
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>>722900094
Rumor has it that Kanemori and Tanaka were rehired like how he got back Daisuke Sase for Rebirth from the XIV mines which he joined after KH2. He needs to steal Taisuke Ooe and Takayoshi Nakazato from Square HR and pluck all of his KH staff to leave CBU1 to rot and make Versus with CBU3 and the Matsuno/SaGa devs like he wanted to before.
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>>722900094
>perfect works
You mean magnum opus
>>722900101
And who would these 'work parents' of Nomura be?
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>>722874437
>>Kingdom Hearts Final Mix - 4/10
what a fucking retard
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>>722871141
terranort tanked that
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>>722900229
They should let Nomura write another game. He's genuinely very funny and 358's writing was hilarious.
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>>722900001
>>722899840
Fun fact the Osaka Team originally came from Capcom when they first made SaGa 3 and the ports of old FF games and Chrono to PS1. They also became part of the FFXI team when they were mixed with the Chrono Cross devs that didn't leave with Nomura's work parents. A majority of them came from Resident Evil and other games by arcade devs including the Einhander guy to work on Parasite Eve 2, so the Musashi 1 and 2 guys who stayed on would then become the next KH studio.

That means Square's action game expertise has always been from Osaka. Yuichi Kanemori came from Mega Man Legends and Parasite Eve 2, Ryota Suzuki came from DMCV, Teruki Endo, Kosuke Sakane and another Ryota Suzuki came from Monster Hunter World. Kingdom Hearts combat has Osaka in its heart through and through.
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>>722900595
Again, who are Nomura's work parents?
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>>722900547
He did not. Dude is fucking atoms.
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>>722900567
The same people who worked with Nomura on Days? They worked with him not on KH3 but instead SoP. This includes the yaoi eroge writer who made Xion. She made Sophia too.
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>>722899451
Anything past 1 may as well be some random not Naruto game instead of a Disney game
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>>722899417
it has the best level design (e.g. not just corridors for battle arenas) and it has some of the best combat (game doesn't play itself, requires a bit more intentionality with player inputs). i love the whole series, but the games did really start to streamline and become more of an "autoplay" type game around 2.
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>>722901160
>Literal cope
Everytime.
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>>722900595
Is Legends any good? Does it control or play anything like KH (I assume 1)?
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>>722901209
>No argument
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>>722901223
>Is Legends any good?
yes
>Does it control or play anything like KH (I assume 1)?
no
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>>722901223
I can't speak to how similar KH1 is to Legends but I can say how similar KH1 is to Legendof Mana
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>>722900595
>Yuichi Kanemori came from Mega Man Legends and Parasite Eve 2
Was it not Mitsunori Takahashi and Masanori Sato and the guy who left to reborn Fate Grand/Order who was also a Nomura protege?
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>>722900280
>You mean magnum opus
no i mean Perfect Works, the autistic nexus of a setting that nomura's old friend and mentor tetsuya takahashi has spent thirty years of his life and nearly a dozen 100+ hour rpgs poking around and never actually diving into the meat of.
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>>722901441
>mentor tetsuya takahashi
Not him, but I'm 'work parents' anon. You forgot his work mother w.
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>>722901441
In another universe Nomura could have stayed with his mom and dad working on their plot for Final Fantasy 7 starring Odin pilot Fei Fong Wong and Siren pilot Lakshmi. We were robbed
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>>722901769
>Lakshmi
Fuck I forgot to put Elly. Got mixed up between summons kek.
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>>722901769
>>722901861
>Xenogears was supposed to be Final Fantasy VII
I didn't know this.
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>>722888420
Square would print money if instead of mobile trash tier gacha they made a competently made a premium high end one with KH2 combat and some batshit insane nomura live service story. That Infinity Nikki gacha already had graphics that look really similar to KH3. Unfortunately it would probably be licensing hell for them because of the Disney element and Square is also literally incapable of making and running a project like that competently. People would spend gorillions pulling on some favourite or OC characters and keyblades though
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>>722870612
I thought this was legitimately so fucking cool as a kid. It breaks my heart that people can't help but bust out laughing instantly upon seeing this.
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>>722901906
Story goes, a man named Tetsuya wanted to make the next Final Fantasy numbering title a break from the recent Final Fantasy games that came before it. It had more urban elements, a strong dark science-fiction bent and comments on contemporary issues such as organized crime and class divide, etc., and it would have gameplay systems that haven't yet been tried in other Final Fantasy games but instead in other genres including platformer-style movement such as running around and jumping thanks to its fully 3D level design and free camera. Mecha robots and politics were going to be big story components, putting this closer to Armored Trooper Votoms, Devilman, or Space Runaway Ideon than Final Fantasy, about personal experiences affected by violence and the separation of church and state.

The producer rejected Tetsuya's pitch because it was too dark and complicated for a numbering title. He said yes to another pitch with the conventions from past Final Fantasy games such as linear progression from cutscene to battle to town to world map, contextual interactions that varied per level with identical inputs, and limited exploration on flat 2D planes with point A to B navigation. This time it used storytelling and railroading to bring people from one FMV cutscene to another almost seamlessly. This was known as the interactive movie design philosophy, as the producer wanted to use games to tell stories that could stand up to movies, and this pitch was very much inspired by shonen anime and some level of social commentary on the environment but had a very classic Final Fantasy narrative on metaphysics and grand philosophical ideas.

Tetsuya's pitch was good enough to get a dev team of young hires from other projects and a budget but Square suffered losses and mismanagement, this new game became compromised from what Tetsuya really intended. People still ask about the original vision Tetsuya had for his game in hushed tones.

Being Tetsuya is suffering.
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>>722902050
This isn't just about Xenogears is it?
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>>722902112
Correct. Xenogears isn't the first opposite FF game or even the first fantasy based on reality made by Tetsuya.
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>>722871141
you have to be legit on the spectrum if you play this past the age of 8
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>>722902175
>fantasy based on reality
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>>722887027
>bahamut casts it but only in non-canon superboss fights
He did it in a very much canon FFXVI boss fight
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>>722871217
it was a different time and most people here were teenagers during kh1+2.
and to be honest, at least they tried to explain shit, unlike today's crossover slop. emphasis on tried



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