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Why did Vrelnir bail on ATF in favor of a hugbox full of mentally ill coomers who LARP faggotry as a lifestyle? What the hell happened?
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>>722935052
you actual pedophile
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>>722935052
did they add moods or whatever the fuck it was to mods
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>>722935720
Concession accepted. You're illiterate and can't answer the question so you resort to buzzwords.

Now, can anyone who isn't a brain-dead newfag actually explain why he bailed? Did the ATF mods finally ban him for being a faggot or something?
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>>722936114
my bad, replied to the wrong anon like a fucking retard.
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>>722935052
why are atf mods never reuploaded to another host?
I find it suspicious
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>>722936561
Good question. Probably because most ATF mods are a legal minefield. Half the assets are ripped from other games or Patreon scams, and the other half are so borderline they'd get a DMCA strike the second they hit a public host like MEGA. The ATF mods probably don't want that kind of heat on their little clubhouse.

It's probably the same kind of drama that made Vrelnir leave. He saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to be associated with a community that's one cease-and-desist letter away from imploding. Easier to manage your own discord hugbox where you can ban anyone who asks too many questions.
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>>722937269
And they're also known for making lolicon/shotacon mods so there is also that.
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From what i've read, he bailed because the game got too popular (he lives in UK, where loli is on the same level as CP). He was scared that normalfags would get him jailed. Though thats only speculation afaik he never explained himself.
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>>722935052
you already made this thread yesterday
>What the hell happened?
discord happened
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what happened to this other guy making the other loli game
city of something
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>ATF
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>>722935052
>What the hell happened?
He became semi-successful and went with what could make him more money probably. Same thing that happens to every other person who has a start here.
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>>722937397
>he never explained himself.
He did, just by lying.
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>>722935052
I don't really see he purpose of that site. The only time I go there is if I want a mod for a game (pretty much just uncensor mods for games with unequal nudity). I otherwise quickly leave the site because it feels like it is trying way too hard. There is plenty of art on places like Pixiv that feel much more normal. The only unique thing the site has is gatekeeping mods like a discord server. I really don't know what would compel someone to use either site for discussion or spend any extended amount of time there.
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>>722937483
Yeah, no shit Sherlock, keep up.

>>722938239
No wonder his game is in ruins now,
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>>722937269
>MEGA
we had fags posting the real thing on here through catbox
I'm sure there are options
hell, CoC's OCA mod is on mega, and it's loli-heavy
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>>722935052
>what the hell happened
Mentally ill coomers who LARP faggotry are more willing to spend their money on it and there is little chance the dev will get arrested for the game now.
He's making a porn game for money, it's not art.
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One thing I find funny about Vrelnir's Discord is they are probably the same ones who fucked his game over and turned it into what it is now because they're a bunch of normalfags. Yet when you tell them what Vrelnir used to do, they seem to have the IQ of a strawberry and just completely ignore you despite them being the one not liking the content in the first place.
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>>722938239
This, also the reason why he started adding those disclaimers stating that the characters are above 18
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Why do the people online who reject their old fanbases not just cater to both instead? That is the most profitable strategy.
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when is degrees of lewdity joining smash?
>Neutral special is the Pepper Spray
>Down Special is having tentacles rise from the ground around you
>Side Special is headbutt
>Up Special has you grow wings
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>>722939315
Vrelnir knows damn well those characters aren't 18, and anybody from his Discord cult with a brain knows it too. They just parrot the "all characters are 18+" line because it's the only way they can justify giving him money without feeling like creeps. It's a collective delusion to protect his grift.

>>722939541
Because you can't grift from both sides. The old ATF crowd wants degeneracy, and the new Discord paypigs want a sanitized version they can pretend is wholesome. He chose the money. It's easier to ban the old fans than it is to deal with the new ones trying to cancel you.
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>>722939836
I'll admit that I don't know too much about this game as I newly discovered it. What exactly did it have that got removed? I'd also argue that cancellation doesn't really work so it is still cowardly to kneel to a loud minority.
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I just took a look at the Discord server. You can't tell me those people aren't completely fucking mental. They literally ask for your real-life ID just to join.

So I have to ask: who is more mentally ill? The ATF degenerates who know what they are, or the Discord cult who demand government-issued ID to look at porn in a pathetic attempt to feel legitimate?
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>>722940120
Originally, you played as an actual kid getting raped in alleys. It was on ATF and 4chan for a reason. Then he realized he could make money, sanitized the entire premise, and started pandering to Discord trannies who need fake IDs to look at porn. He sold out for cash. That's what got removed: the entire point of the game.

But the people on the Discord are fucking retarded and think oh boy this is just such a wholesome ass game that I tell all my other degenerate friends to play
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>>722940120
Continue to play the game if you want but don't let the faggots fool you, you're playing a game made by a degenerate for degenerates but cleaned like it was a stain for people just like you.
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>>722940487
I still have trouble comprehending the mindset of the people who do stuff like this. I really highly doubt someone loses a fetish they had strong enough that it compelled them to create something that attracted attention. With that in mind, I can't imagine how cucking out for extra money isn't extremely painful. If I were in this position and decided I found a way to make money, even if I sanitized the main game, I'd keep maintaining my original vision and putting it up wherever I usually did. If it is on a site like 4chan, you can even keep plausible deniability on whether it is you or just a very dedicated original fan. If the typical Maoist shit occurs where they demand answers, you can just ignore them and it will die down. These people will reach very far to justify harassing someone, but if there isn't solid evidence linking the person to something, they are much more likely to just shift into coping that it isn't their idol.
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>>722941049
You're giving him too much credit. That would require having a spine and a brain. He's not a mastermind playing 4D chess, he's just a spineless grifter who saw the easiest path to cash and took it. He doesn't have the balls to maintain a secret version for his old fans, he just wants to appease his new paypigs and hope nobody notices he's a fraud.

If one day truth breaks out on the Discord in a major way, either by moderator or someone trusted in the community the same community that Vrelnir trusts is going to most likely turn against him, they already suppress people who bring up the truth so clearly it takes someone with high status for the community to actually fucking listen
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The Discord is already growing by a lot, it's just a matter of time and who actually has the balls to do it.
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>>722940120
It got a bunch of faggots on board, and they're the only people Vrel listens to even though he doesn't speak in his own hugbox either.
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>>722935052
I just noticed that I lost my very well beloved DoL character because I competely forgot about the game and him 1 week ago when I cleared my browser cookies.
I am ver pissed and depressed about this now and I don't know how to cope with this.
I know that I could always make the exact same character again and even use my newly gained knowledge from my first run to give him a better life with less rape, but it wouldn't feel the same anymore because he is not the old original guy I loved so much.
How do I cope with this?
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>>722935482
demoncrap detected. go be a woke faggot somewhere else.
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>>722942142
How do these people rationalize this when the character is pretty much a loli all but in a stated age? Does the visual suddenly not matter to them anymore?
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>>722942428
it's actually about being a heckin minority, and was definitely never about minors
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>>722942428
Because they don't understand the game for what it actually is and Vrelnir doesn't want legal action taken on him lol. Go show a picture of the PC to like 100 random people who have never seen the game and I bet a good percentage of them will say that is a child
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The only reason those Discord faggots parrot the "18+" line is because they're nigger cattle who will believe whatever a power-tripping janny tells them. They're terrified of getting a scary timeout.

The original consensus, even on places like F95zone, was that the PC was a kid. But they can't think for themselves, so now they've all been brainwashed into thinking what they're playing is totally normal. Go look at the first few pages of the F95 thread and multiple people say "loli" and "shota": https://f95zone.to/threads/degrees-of-lewdity-v0-5-5-8-vrelnir.20259/
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Did my little boy become a fucking bird?
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>>722935482
i watched a short documentary on epstein recently that concluded by saying he was "totally bad ass." public opinion on pedophiles is doing a 180 so this isn't the "own" you think it is.
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>>722943198
Yes, your character can turn into a bird who gives a shit.

A lot of good information is on F95, there are hundreds of page calling the PC loli. Just imagine what is on ATF if it's thread is still up or if there are archives.
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what a weird clusterfuck of a game. how the fuck is a world of rape acceptable but if it's lolis that's somehow beyond the pale
it's one thing if they were just doing wink wink nudge nudge to keep from having their discord nuked but it seems they just actually believe their own shit at this point
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>>722943528
What?
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>>722943605
What?
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>>722943595
Because people can't learn how to stop sucking on Vrelnir's man boobs and come to realization. The extreme fetishes that compel them to play the game are almost like drugs, scientists need to investigate this shit, I think the Discord has a mental illness never seen in the history of mankind.
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>>722943808
And what I'm saying is not even a lie, if you go into their Discord right now and tell everybody Vrelnir is a pedophile, with ACTUAL, FACTUAL proof they will ban you, call you a bot, and then try to redirect the conversation. It's literally a real life cult
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>>722937483
>DoL was gonna have ageplay
FUCK that's my no. 1 kink :(((
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>>722943595
normalfags are literal retards is how.
they are fine with enjoying rape because it's fictional, but they're not fine with lolis because fictional loli's are apparently real.
????????????????????????????
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It's kind of funny how history gets rewritten. The F95zone thread is a good fossil, but I bet all the real gold from the ATF days and the first few 4chan threads are just gone or either only some oldie knows it.

It's a perfect crime, isn't it? All that's left are the newfags and the Discord cult who will swear up and down that the game was always this wholesome. In a few years, nobody will even remember what it used to be.
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>>722944208
I only enjoy the rape if it's silly and wacky like with wolves, horses and bears.
I do not enjoy the normal rape and always try my best to avoid it.
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>>722935052
>Why did Vrelnir bail on ATF
Money. Also, what mod is on the right?
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>>722945308
It won't be so much about the money in the future.
>what mod is on the right?
Not sure, it's just a random image I picked out for the post.
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Why isn't anyone making a cute and funny/wild and silly text based game?
>Just do it yourself
But I don't want to
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Why doesn't someone just make a fork pre pregnancy update and maintain it from there?
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>>722946053
No choice buddy, you must become better than the faggot that Vrelnir is.
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>>722946305
Because everybody is too busy playing the hit faggot game Degrees of Lewdity
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>>722942190
>him
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>>722942190
>How do I cope with this?
by actually downloading the game so this couldn't have happened and starting again
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>>722946927
I have the game downloaded. I have a version that runs in a HTML file, so it still uses the browser cookies for save files. Is there another version that runs as an exe?
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>>722947223
nope. well i can still blame you for literally NEVER exporting a save. i do it every so often (like once a week).
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You know what would be a fun experiment? Someone going into that Discord with a folder of old screenshots from the F95 thread or ATF and just dropping them in general chat.


I've done it and what happens is they call on the mods like the retarded faggots they are, delete the message, ban you, call you a spam bot, and then move the conversation to something completely different and it just only reinforces my idea of the people there being brainwashed.
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>>722947443

And then if someone actually does look at the message then they
just act like they don't give a fuck for some reason. Out of all of the retarded discord servers degrees of lewdity is on my list of top 3 fucktard servers.
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>>722947443
redditors are dumb
there's nothing we can do
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>>722944028
It's hilarious and sad at the same time. Especially the part about having proof because holy hell is there a shitload.
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>>722939697
chastity cage / anal shield block
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>>722947443
Might be easier just to send the proof of it to discord and let them sort it out, since I'm sure they have mod only chats for server contributors that would be a gold mine.
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>>722948780
Yeah but Discord seems to not give a fuck since 1. It's fictional and because 2. I don't even have the proof compiled at the moment to even send it
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If someone had access to ATF and could look at the thread (if it's still up) and put some of the information here I could send something to ol' faggotcord
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This thread is about to die, but I can't let it go out on such a defeatist note.

Forget sending evidence to Discord. That's their problem or maybe I will in the next thread I post. The real answer, the ultimate "fuck you" to Vrelnir and his sanitized grift, is to fork the game. Vrelnir is a money-hungry, lying coward.
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>>722942190
Kneel. No backups.
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I honestly cannot fathom how you people give this much of a shit about a gooner browser game.
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>>722936114
>>722936376
>pedophile is a buzzword now
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>>722937483
>>722944131
It was never going to have ageplay. The game stars an orphan living at an orphanage who has to go to a school that has traditional middle schooler attire. Take a guess why all that content was in there.
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>>722954331
Worst part is it's 95% text and like 5% everything else
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Why are the players of this game so overly sensitive about being called pedo for it when it's a blatant pedo game?
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>>722935052
just got through Christmas in this game, I fucking hate how little opportunities there are to interact with Whitney. So far the most interesting bit of the game has been the "corruption of the world" through the Church plotline.
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Remember when someone pulled open the code of a old build of the game, posted the code that was disabled that directly referenced cunny and code that referenced ages and Vrelnir lied and said it was from the loli mod for the game Pedy made despite it being directly from a old build of the game?
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>>722955641
because they're actual pedos and groomers trying to hide it >>722942551
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>>722954331
>hurr durr why u care about gooner game

Kill yourself, tourist. This is about principle, a dev who built his career on degenerate content then sold out to Discord trannies for shekels. It's the same story every time, and if you don't get why that matters, you're part of the problem.

Go back to your AAA slop threads if you can't handle actual discussion.
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Vrelnir ultimately decided it would be easier to just abandon the concept of his game and let discord trannies make the updates for him than keep his vision so the game is just nothing but love interest updates and no more rape.
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From Degrees of Lewdity to Degrees of Trannies
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Even if they try to cope with the whole "PC is 18" the character:
>lives in an orphanage (for underage)
>requires a fake license to lap dance
>still going to school and not paying for college
>no proper full pledged job they can partake in with a proper salary meaning they are not at the age to work and only do part-time jobs
>PC looks like a child
Also I dont mind the romance options but the scenarios with the current ones are lackluster and you cant do much with them, the holidays are a total of 3 in the game when there's a lot more occasions especially summer vacations that could be taken into account for events like trips to somewhere else entirely.
This game is so fucking lackluster.
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>>722956372
>you see, I need to stand up for the principle of my pedophile rape game being dumbed down by discord trannies (who are also pedophiles)
you're probably not gonna win much sympathy from me, sorry
if your first thoughts within minutes of playing this game aren't "Huh, maybe we should bring back the Firing Squad" then you were part of the problem in the first place.
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>>722956725
>Even if they try to cope with the whole "PC is 18" the character
I always assumed this was more to skirt around UK law and Discord rules. AFAIK the in game dialogue is pretty vague and only explicit references to you being a child were removed.
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>>722956725
none of the pedophilic satan worshippers who play this game will respond to this. at most they'll go "b-but the disclaimer...." while refusing to acknowledge the pedophile undertones
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>>722956795
>hurr durr you support pedo game

Learn to read, you illiterate faggot. I'm calling out the dev for being a two-faced coward who built his game on degenerate content then sold out for shekels. The entire point is that he's STILL making pedo bait but pretending it's wholesome for his Discord paypigs.

Reading comprehension on this board has reached subterranean levels. Go back to whatever shithole you crawled from where they teach you to argue with strawmen instead of addressing the actual point.
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Again the game was literally revealed to have cunny and loli in the code in the older versions, the discord tranny cope is literally just collective madness that Vrelnir has encouraged so he doesn't have to work on the game anymore.
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>>722955540
>he can't goon to text
5
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>>722957034
>text game
Am I supposed to be upset that a text game got assraped by trannies?
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>>722958007
NTA by the way
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>>722956725
how many times does need to be stated
the protagonist and all characters are role playing, all characters are humans, and all engagements are consenting
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>>722958116
Why can no one role play as a loli then?
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I like how many times they've updated DoL's combat system in the past 3 years with almost zero noticeable difference and not even basic filler content to mask how unfinished the game is. I have no idea how these people make money off this shit. The game is barely fucking functional in normal gameplay and with cheats it's entirely broken.
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>>722958116
THIS, I definitely didnt get raped by a dog, he was trained to pretend to fuck me
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>>722958845
If you want a true blackpill look at the survey results and you'll see 90% of players are females/crossdressing and don't engage with anything other than Robin/Whitney LI scenes.
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>>722959086
That actually makes a lot more sense as to why there's barely any fucking male-focused shit in the game. Like you have to literally go out of your way and disable most of the content just so you don't get raped in your ass in the first five minutes. It'd actually be hilarious if it wasn't so annoying.
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>>722958116
>>722958901
cope and seethe you delusional faggots. your "it's just roleplay" defense is more pathetic than a tranny's dilating schedule. you're literally arguing that getting raped by dogs is consensual roleplay, that's the kind of mental gymnastics that would make an olympic coach weep.

your cope is so strong it could power a small city. keep telling yourself it's "just roleplay" while you fap to literal bestiality and pedo bait. the discord cult has completely rotted your brain, at this point you're lying to YOURSELF

kill yourselves immediately. the gene pool would thank you for removing your defective DNA from circulation.
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>>722959505
>by dogs
they are humans role playing as dogs
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>>722960308
explain the tentacles
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>>722960308
Are you a fucking nigger or what? Atleast the niggers tried to revolt, it's like Vrelnir is your slave master and you just do whatever he tells you to do. There is no fucking way you are that retarded that you believe that. I was going to say you have the IQ of a watermelon but it seems like you have MUCH less than that.
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>>722935052
Hold on, I recognize the game on the left, but what about the one on the right?
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>>722960741
The one on the right is the same game, just a modded version. Before you ask what mod that is, I do not know, I just picked it out for the post.
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>>722960741
Bees and vrel are making a new game
My dad works for discord
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>>722960365
nothing a good costume with some lube to simulator the slime and suction cups from the hardware store cant explain
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i dated an ATF moderator and got the ick bcuz he kept insisting us having kids wasn't a bad idea
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>DoL was always about degradation, shota/loli themes, and noncon submission
Vrelnir literally said: “If only I’d thought of ‘shota bullying simulator 2018’” (>>8041191)
When asked to remove “little boy/girl” lines, he replied: “Is this really that bad? I like the degradation aspect.” (>>8045588)
Planned content: school-wide genital inspections, forced undressing, ageplay, vore, mindbreak, bestiality
Then he got Patreon money, panicked about UK obscenity laws, and nuked all the edge
Now his Discord bans anyone who mentions the original vision and insists “PC is 18!!!” despite zero in-game evidence
He didn’t “evolve” dude cucked out for cash and built a cult of coomers who parrot his legal disclaimers to feel clean while still jerking to the same degenerate fantasy
The receipts are still on desuarchive. The truth is archived. He just hopes you’re too lazy to look.

(The full one with more details was too long, if you want to add something or have screenshots put them here.)
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>>722961198

There is more good information on here: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/username/Vrelnir/

F95, and probably some archives. You can look through them but I didn't have the time and just quickly built that
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Also, I'm not sure since I don't use ATF but if someone has an account on there and the Degrees of Lewdity thread is still up there might be some stuff on there too.
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>>722961198
I forgot about penis inspection day. Now I'm sad.
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>>722961198
In my opinion, spread the word or either fork the game. Forking the game is a "fuck you" to Vrelnir for cucking out for money. Spreading the word is a "fuck you" to lying to your community and creating a pedo game
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>>722961570
Every fork got mass reported by discord fags, the real problem is no one can be bothered with that sort of effort for a text only game, let alone adding new shit to it. On top of people just being annoyed Vrel tried to act like it never was one thing and expecting everyone to just move on with it.
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>>722962042
The Discord fags mass-reporting forks proves they know the game's origins are pedo-bait. They're not protecting "artistic integrity" they're too retarded to wake the fuck up so they just automate protecting their cash cow and their fragile self-image.

If no one's willing to put in the effort of spreading the truth on their Discord, subreddit, 4chan, or Vrelnir's blog comments, then at least preserve the truth. Archive everything, and make sure new players know what Vrelnir did it'll also help if someone wants to come along in the future and actually wants to put in the effort and spreading it. The fact that he's trying to memory-hole his own game's history is the most damning evidence of his cowardice.

Even if no fork succeeds, at least the truth will remain accessible. That's more damaging to Vrelnir than any fork could be.
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>>722962383
just curious, why do you have such a hate-boner for him?
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>>722962864
Because he's a faggot who abandoned his own vision to chase tranny bucks and that alone is enough for me to shit on him.
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>>722962864

If you had something called two fucking eyeballs you would see the reasons but your hurr durr brain can't take the time to read so let me lay it out for you: The problem isn't that he wanted to make money, it's that he betrayed his original fanbase and created a cult of Discord trannies who parrot his "all characters are 18+" line while still jerking off to the same pedo-bait.

If you can't understand why someone would be pissed about that, you're probably part of the problem. This is exactly why indie devs keep getting away with this shit, because too many people like you just roll over and take it.

Go back to your sanitized Discord hugbox if you can't handle criticism of your cult leader.
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iyaa what is this thread thanks for the game recc i guess where do i find the modded version?
that site only shows me the angel mod
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Until they remove Purity and basically all of the curators that followed after him, this game is never going to be even remotely finished.

It's actually impressive how this game is more unstable than it was 4 years ago.
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>>722963542

Yeah but Vrelnir is fucking retarded, so he's never going to listen. This game only gets like 2 updates per year, and the new Avery mansion update is okay, but why the hell is he expanding on new shit instead of focusing on the things that actually need improvement like combat, LIs, etc.

This game is going straight into the ground if he doesn't get rid of purefag and all the other nigger cattle working on the game and actually perfect the basic stuff. The code is a fucking mess.
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The game was doomed when he made Kylar into a fucking seasonal event mad scientist with vampire ghoul parents instead of just a yandere anyways.
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>>722962980
>>722963139
I just looked through the archive.
Responding to his original release he says
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/8038009/#q8042390
>Obscenity laws and related legislation here are a mess.
>The "All characters are 18 or older" disclaimer is accurate, and would be even if the $devlevel (ageplay) stuff was functioning. It's unlikely it would cause problems, but I decided to err on the side of caution.
>If the law becomes clearer (big if) I'll add it as an option. It's a shame though.

It's obvious you were not around for the so called "original vision". It's also obvious that this game was always going to be 18+ (wink) unless UK laws changed.
You're mad that the developer isn't risking jail time so you can jerk of to a child getting raped. Which is to say, you're one of the dumbest people on this website.
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>>722963784
>>The code is a fucking mess.
>Thousands, if not tens of thousands of different jpeg pixel images
>Realistically you will only see 200-300 of them unless you spend 20+ hours on the game
>Despite this the game goes through and loads each jpeg individually whenever you launch the game.
>The one time they tried to store it in a chache it broke the PC image display.

Genuinely hilarious how incompetent they are. I find it doubly hilarious that they cheekily renamed the debug menu to "cheats" because at least a quarter of the "content" in this game is straight up inaccessible without cheating and spawning shit directly in.
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>>722963948
The game code literally had cunny in the code and the characters talking about how wrong it is to fuck a kid.
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>>722964019
>If the law becomes clearer (big if) I'll add it as an option. It's a shame though.


>NNOOOOO HE HAS TO ADD LOLI RAPE. HE OWES IT TO MEEEEEE!!!!!
Retard
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>>722963948

>implying I want the game to be illegal
I'm documenting that Vrelnir *lied* about the PC always being 18.
He admits he disabled ageplay ($devlevel) and called it "a shame."
Now his cult bans anyone who quotes his own posts.
Stay mad, copium-chan.
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>>722935052
what mod is it or where did you find that image atleast for any clues as to what it could be?
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>>722964409
Refer to
>>722960861
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>>722937835
It's dead because the dev went full pants-on-head retarded and wax didn't want to go along with him
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>>722939190
That's how all of these faggots act, being fair. They'll chimp out over anything but the moment you show them definitive proof that the guy they're following did something they would never approve of, they just act like it's not there.
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>>722946382
I used to play it a fair bit, but I eventually deleted it because it had literally become a tedium simulator. I have no idea how Vrel managed to make a porn game boring as sin, but he did.
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>>722958007
>>722958095
Retard.
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>>722965472

>DoL players wake up, chug onions, and spend 6 hours getting knotted by wolves
>PC can't die so it's just infinite gangbang simulator with trauma sprinkles
>Meanwhile they scream "18+!!!" while jerking to a loli-coded character.
The cognitive dissonance is the feature. They need the denial to keep playing without feeling like total degenerates and because it's just so fucking fun to them that they don't want it to get cancelled.
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why dont you guys make your own game
and then you guys can stop bitching about this one
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>>722965702
This is how
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>>722965768
I samefagged because I wanted to add "NTA" to the first comment
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>>722966080
the fun thing about a porn game imo is that i dont know whats going to happen next, if i make my own game then il know what happens and it wont be fun
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>>722966080
How about the dev actually make a good game with good updates and people would stop bitching
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>>722966080
keep an eye out for monster girl ASCII games.
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How would you improve the gameplay so it's not just >>722966145?
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>>722966785
Delete the faggot game entirely.
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I used to play the shit out of DoL on my phone when working night shift. What the hell happened? I thought you were always some orphan kid? Discord drama? Trannies? I was going to actually play it again after seeing this thread and now I'm worried that the game is castrated and ruined.
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>>722967472
Just read through the thread, should be able to answer most of your questions.
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>>722967472
Most of the unique stuff that isn't meant for females and trannies with rape fantasies is locked behind hours of the most boring and stupid combat loop in existence. There are multiple game breaking bugs that have been in the game for several years and despite going through multiple updates they somehow cannot fix them.
Multiple dead ends and blatantly unfinished areas. There is a unique NPC that you can basically only see several times until it's impossible to interact with. To "fairly" access even half of the content in the game you have to make multiple save files to go down a dozen different exclusive routes and grind for hours just so you don't get thrown into a neverending rape loop. Half the time you will be thrown into a neverending rape loop anyway because something in the combat broke. It's as the other anon said, it's an extremely tedious game where unless you're a tranny with AGP or a women into rape most of the content is just not worth getting to.

This game has been in development for over 7 years btw.
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>>722968152
then post the mod or fork that lets me goon in peace schizokun
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>>722953189
Damn...I didn't realize I haven't played since 2023. I was using the same save from 2018 until then
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>>722935052
>Why did Vrelnir bail on ATF in favor of a hugbox full of mentally ill coomers who LARP faggotry
Because the mentally ill coomers who LARP faggotry give money, while everybody on ATF just ask for everything for free. It shouldn't be too hard to understand. One let Vrelnir quit their job and work on typing up text lines with HTML as employment, while the other just complained that they couldn't take horse dildos up their ass in the game yet. Who would you prefer to listen to?
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>>722970870
In today's world? Yeah, I'd take the money option any day over having to flip burgers
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>>722966785
Delete it and use large language models instead.
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>>722935052
>What the hell happened?
You didn't stop it is what happened
You could've stopped him from trooning out

THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU!!!
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>>722954331
For me, a part of it is how much fucking money these shitty devs make for minimal amounts of content for years. Look at something like Beat Banger that makes $10k a month and has for years on Pateron, and has 2k+ reviews on Steam with a Very Positive rating, despite the game having FOUR FUCKING SONGS IN IT. They just released an update last month with support for SECRET LEVELS WHEN THEY HAVEN'T ADDED A NEW LEVEL IN SOME TWO OR THREE FUCKING YEARS
BUT THESE RETARDED FUCKING COOMERS KEEP THROWING MONEY AT IT AND SUPPORTING IT I HATE PORN DEVS AND I HATE EVERYONE THAT SUPPORTS THEM
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>>722973708
Yes, it's awful. But there's a millionaire immigrant in America right now who actively shocked his dog for daring to stand up after 2 hours of sitting down, and he's still making money off his audience of communists who think he did nothing wrong.

Politicians conspire with corpos to siphon as much labor as possible out of you while ruining your life.

Late stage capitalism will always be comically unfair.
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>>722973121
I was there for the first builds he posted on /d/ and I fully support his decision to abandon this place. There are a group of people that are determined not just to hate him and his game, but also be as loud as possible about it. It's 10x more mentally ill than any discord faggotry but they lack the self-awareness to realize it
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>>722954331
zoomers have some kind of mind virus where they dedicate huge portions of their lives to destroying socially taboo pornography sources
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*AHEM*
The MC is not a loli, but is still underaged (and that's a good thing).
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>>722968353
I image the game is the same as always, so you just hit F12 and cheat yourself max stats/grades.
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>>722973902
You're absolutely right, but just because there are more important atrocities going on doesn't mean I shouldn't yell about the smaller ones.
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>>722975125
We're fully into the societal collapse stage already. If you want to spend your last days whining about a pedo making money off trannies, go nuts, but you really should wake up and realise it's a symptom, not a cause.
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>>722940120
Nothing. It's literally the thing doujinshi does where they go "lol it's xx year old grade schooler! Everyone in this comic is over 18 years old!"

However retards who for some reason think being a lolicon is a good thing and grants them e-clout get mad, because they're attracted to numbers instead of lolis. You see it a lot with hebephiles who go "oh my god it's totally loli I love breasts and pubic hair so much omg xD I'm such a lolicon"
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>>722935052
I heard that Master Card cancelled anyway, and I'm content with it. Really hope he somehow ends up jailed anyway, fuck him.
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>>722935052
This game gets around
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/how-to-achieve-a-perfect-ending-after-entering-a-messed-up-world/
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Some disingenuous astroturfing going on here
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>>722962864
see >>722948618
the dev's a lolicon who's currently trying to claim that the blatant little girl protag is somehow 18+. he deserves to be outed as the pedo he is.
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>>722980135
don't ever quote me again, normalfag tourist.
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Alright I had my fill of the vanilla content, what are the best mods? I want to be more in control of things if there's specific content for that, the rape into rape into rape spiral just bored me, wasn't into it.
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>>722980979
DoL+ lets you rape back and is the way you should play the game anyways
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>>722981206
Based I'll check it out
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>>722937914
you goon to futa and big ass because are a homo and american
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>>722935052
is the right screenshot mod? I've only played DOL vanilla.
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>>722935052
What the fuck am I looking at on the right? I know the left is Degrees of Lewdity, but what is that with the sex expression on the right? I wanna try it.
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>>722978352
>turning a rape sim of all things into a yuri novel
Pretty strange.
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>>722965702
The main issue with this game. You are just grinding the same events over and over again.
Would unironically be better if it was much shorter but you only encountered every event 1-3 times.
CoC has the same problem but it's a bit better because there are more different random events in the pool that you can encounter.
I hope Lilliths Throne won't be as repetetive.
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>>722974128
>I was there for the first builds he posted on /d/ and I fully support his decision to abandon this place
THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU

>>722974712
>The MC is not a loli
Well of course MC isn't a loli
MC is a shota in a world full of horny onee-sans with gigantic milky tits, entirely different
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It's really funny how the common "All characters are 18+" disclaimer mindbroke some autist so hard he now spergs out in every DoL thread ever.
It's even more funny how some faggots tried to make their own DoL but it died in the womb because the niggers don't have a fraction of Vrel's original work ethic.
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does anyone else roleplay with their characters?

mine has a strong sense of justice
during the day he protects the weak from bullies in school
during the night he fights crime disguised as a heroine (he is obsessed with magical girls)
it does not always end well... but he never gives up!
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>>722935052
>mentally ill coomers who LARP faggotry as a lifestyle
Because despite them being absolute failures in life, they are more numerous and that means more patreonbux
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>>722986119
>he
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>Play mod that lets you take control and rape the rapist if you do enough damage to them
>Game goes from a boring getting raped simulator to a boring raping simulator
I don't know what I expected
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>>722942298
No self-respecting conservative plays porn games.
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>>722986802
You don't...play games where the main playable character is female...do you? ...Are you trans?
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The game's ok but once you've seen all the content you beat the game, nothing to do and no point to updates
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>>722978352
Pretty wild, though it's funny how they turned Robin into a yandere from just being a useless pos
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>>722935052
>Why did Vrelnir bail on ATF
he's British.

another British dev on ATF has already gone to jail for putting a similar text game on patreon.
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>>722984661
>mindbroke some autist so hard he now spergs out in every DoL thread ever

The only mind-broken people are the Discord cultists performing mental gymnastics to justify giving money to a dev who made a loli rape game. Vrelnir's "work ethic" consists of adding two new romance options per year while the core gameplay remains broken. He's a grifter, not a developer. However, they don't have to justify anything because they seem to not care.

It isn't that Vrelnir cucked out to avoid jail because that's just basic self-preservation. The problem is he abandoned his original community who supported him when he was just another ATF dev. He streamlined the game for Discord trannies who need IDs to look at pixelated porn on a Discord, then let his cult of a Discord do all the actual development work while he collects Fanbox bucks.

It's about betrayal. He built his career on degenerate content, and then went and sanitized it for maximum profit while pretending it was always wholesome. The game's been in development for 7+ years and it's still a buggy mess with repetitive gameplay loops, but hey, at least we got another Avery update for the Discord fags to coom over.

He built a new house on the ashes of his old community and is now charging rent to the very people who helped burn it down.
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>>722935052
Whatever happened it's a goddamned tragedy. Such a fucking waste
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We should make this the copypasta for Vrelnir lol:

>DoL was always about degradation, shota/loli themes, and noncon submission
Vrelnir literally said: “If only I’d thought of ‘shota bullying simulator 2018’” (>>8041191)
When asked to remove “little boy/girl” lines, he replied: “Is this really that bad? I like the degradation aspect.” (>>8045588)
Planned content: school-wide genital inspections, forced undressing, ageplay, vore, mindbreak, bestiality
Then he got Patreon money, panicked about UK obscenity laws, and nuked all the edge
Now his Discord bans anyone who mentions the original vision and insists “PC is 18!!!” despite zero in-game evidence
He didn’t “evolve” dude cucked out for cash and built a cult of coomers who parrot his legal disclaimers to feel clean while still jerking to the same degenerate fantasy
The receipts are still on desuarchive. The truth is archived. He just hopes you’re too lazy to look.

(The full one with more details was too long, if you want to add something or have screenshots put them here.)
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I would share it in Discord but I can't since the faggots banned me already
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I am more offended about the fact that ever since development caters towards discord trannies, any dev effort is put towards shitty story lines first instead of properly fleshing out the sandbox gameplay elements.
I wish that cult would disappear already.
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>>722991453
I don't think it matters anymore. The game has been pretty much dead for years now, and he's obviously not talented nor motivated enough to make a new one. The guy had a chance, but chose to alienate the fans he had and work on temperature system and dating instead of finishing the game.
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>>722992082
I'm not sure about dead, the Reddit is still pretty active and their Discord just reached 100K+ members but in a way it doesn't matter since the game hardly gets updates anymore and eventually there is probably going to be an announcement from Vrelnir saying they don't want to work on the game anymore or that the game is literally going to take 100 fucking years to be done.
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>>722987457
Nigger you literally play as a tranny crossdresser
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Improved Version: DoL was always about degradation, shota/loli themes, and noncon submission:

• Vrelnir literally said: "If only I'd thought of 'shota bullying simulator 2018'" (>>8041191)
• When asked to remove "little boy/girl" lines, he replied: "Is this really that bad? I like the degradation aspect." (>>8045588)
• He admits he disabled ageplay ($devlevel) and called it "a shame." (https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/8038009/#q8042390)


He got money, panicked about UK obscenity laws, and nuked all the lolicon content and streamlined it for a bigger audience because he wanted to make some money.

Now his Discord bans anyone who mentions the original vision and insists "PC is 18!!!" despite zero in-game evidence. The code literally shows the removal of certain words to clear up the lolicon stuff.

The game never "evolved" dude cucked out for cash and built a cult of coomers who parrot his legal disclaimers to feel clean while still jerking to the same degenerate fantasy.

The receipts are still on desuarchive. The truth is archived. He just hopes you're too lazy to look.
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Also, to prove a point that the niggers in the Discord are fucking retarded and just ignore you I will post the thing in the Discord and will send screenshots of what happens.
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>>722992601
how about you just post it there and not here
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>>722992874
Exactly what I plan to do. I was just putting it here incase anybody else wanted to use it
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i tried to contact a former dol mod that had beef with purityguy but all he did was send a bunch of touhou toddlercon and guro images before ranting about trans and gay people raping children their entire community is fucked
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lol did you guys see that
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took them like 2 whole minutes to ban me
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I wasn't able to take a screenshot of their reaction though too bad
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However, from what I did see, they are absolute retards and they thought I was a fucking bot lol.
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I don't get you obsessed niggers. Yeah, the community is a bunch of faggots, women and troons, I get it. I don't interact with them and I don't want to.

Aside from that, you're still playing as a helpless little schoolgirl who gets raped and bullied by the entire world no matter what the fags and disclaimers tell you so what's the damn issue? If you can't detach yourself from the disclaimer, are you really sure that text based smut is for you? And you fucking niggers whining that you downloaded a loli rape game and have a loli rape game, ffs do you know how hard it is to find megaslut gangbangs that aren't related to NTR, mindbreak, drugs, rape or whatever else, just good ol' fashioned megasluts who want to have 20 dicks inside them? I turn the game on, I fuck random people to measure their dicks, I coom and then I go to sleep. The fuck else am I supposed to do?
>>722994462
Like this. No, I don't fucking see that because I'm not in their Discord because why would I be?
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>>722994630
You're right, you still have your loli rape game. For now. The point you're missing is that the spineless grifter who made it would erase that part too if he thought it would make him another buck from his Discord paypigs. He's already proven he'll sell out his original vision and lie about his own game's history. His Discord cult bans anyone who mentions the truth.

You're happy to coom in the ruins while the foundation is being pulled out from under you. Don't come crying here when they decide the "rape" content is too problematic for their new audience and start sanitizing that too. Your apathy is exactly what he's counting on.
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>>722935052
>Dev thinly veils his lolicon porn game to not get raped in the ass by Bong gubmint anal assault task force
Stage 5 aphantasia niggers:
>NOOOOO IT IS NOT DIRECTLY SPELLED OUT CHARACTER IS 10 HOW CAN I PLAY THIS WHEN DEV DOES NOT EXPLICITLY TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD FEEL AHHHHH
You faggots wouldn't understand subtext even if you were actively being bludgeoned to death with it.
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>>722995139
Jesus Christ man I think you're taking this HTML porn game too seriously. Yeah I get it, he's a cuck and has surrounded himself with the worst people on Earth but if it ever gets to that point, we can just make our own version or download an old one. You can just ask and they'll tell you where to get the source code. I thought about adding a few events but I'm lazy and they didn't have an up to date guide so I didn't bother in the end. It's not like he's got any of my money and if he paywalls it, then I'll just get it off F95 zone and if he takes them down, we can just mass report him to the British police because I'm pretty sure it's still technically illegal content.
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>>722995317
So let me get this straight. It's "just a porn game" and not worth taking seriously, but you're also threatening to report him to the British police over it? Which is it? Is it a trivial thing not worth getting worked up over, or is it serious enough to try and get a man thrown in jail?

Your position is as spineless as Vrelnir's. You don't care about the truth, you don't care about the betrayal, you just care about getting your free porn. "Just pirate it" isn't a solution, it's an admission of defeat. It's exactly the kind of apathy that lets grifters like him rewrite history and get away with it.

This is not just about the game but also about having principle. I guess that's too much for a brain that can only think in terms of "what can I get for free."
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>>722994145
post proof
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>>722954331
>dev pulls the exact same shit as other games having Roomate and Landlady
>/v/ can’t stop pissing and shitting itself
No one here is all that smart
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>>722994630
>>722995139
>Hurf durf it doesn't matter just stop doing thing
How about you fuck off with this woman style argument of shame tactics. You're arguing on 4chan,time wasted is the point and the fun of doing it.
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>>722995991
this was 2023 on a now banned account sry
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>>722996123
Difference is those fags didn't outright lie to their fanbase about it, and then try to clean it up under the guise of typofixes. It's cool that you're content with people shitting in your mouth though.
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>>722996350
>loli and shots explicitly illegal in the UK
>b-but he’s lying! How could he lie to me?
Like I said, not that smart
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>>722996350
>nooo i must be explicitly told it's a kid so my peepee can go up
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>>722997050
Is that from the Discord after the message I sent?
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NEED WHITNEY CORRECTION
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>>722997267
The only people this defensive are the ones in the cult. Your seething is just more proof that Vrelnir built a hugbox for fragile-minded paypigs who can't handle the truth.

Stay mad. I'll be here calling out the grifter you worship.
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>>722997393
I haven't played the game in years and only read the threads to see if any update is interesting enough for me to play it again. I moved on ages ago, unlike your retarded ass who does nothing but shit up the threads because the shit tier ageplay stuff it had a decade ago is gone.
Go and play some better lolige, or listen to ageplay audios if that's all you want, or just kill yourself so we all can be free of your niggerish behaviour.
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>>722997765
If you believe I made this thread because I am mad the loli content was removed, you are missing two eyeballs and a large majority of your liquidy brain. I am speaking out about both how Vrelnir abandoned his community and how he also made a loli game, which generally makes him a faggot.

Now, go back to your daily routine of going through porn subreddits and donating all your life savings to your favorite V-tubers. After you are done, please kill yourself. Thank you.
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>>722998075
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>post the needful and fuck off >>722937483
>somehow this shitheap is still up a whole day later
what are you guys even discussing, the game is dead and ruined, he's never adding cunny back nor are we getting actual updates again
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Are there up to date versions that readd the cut context?
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>>722998264
The game is dead because Vrelnir killed it for a paycheck. That's the entire point of this thread, you illiterate fuck.

We're discussing it so people don't forget he's a two-faced grifter who betrays his community. The fact that you want everyone to just "fuck off" and forget about it tells me you're one of his new Discord paypigs, happy to lap up the sanitized version he shat out for you.
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And do not take the context in the wrong way, I am not saying the game died because Vrelnir removed the loli content, it's much more complex than that.
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>>722986119
My character, like in most RPGs I play, is a simple minded brute who loves shinies.
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>>722997765
>moved on ages ago
>still shows up to argue and defend
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>>722995639
No wonder you're so assmad when you're this illiterate.
>we can just
Is deliberately NOT definitive, it's an option. But that's the issue here really, you're a slave, I'm ubermensch so you don't understand these things.
>vrelnir, saaaave uuuusss!!
>vrelnir betrayed ussssss!!!!
>how could heee!!!!
This is peak slave mentality, you sound like the fucking cultist from Dawn of War 1 when his morale breaks. Even your raiding is shit, you just go in there, and what? Spam an image and get instabanned? And we're supposed to care? You said it yourself, you get mistaken for a fucking bot and we're supposed to be impressed and join your righteous crusade after that pathetic display? Do you know why I don't care about "da truth"? I know it. I already explained it, the game is a loli rape and dog fucking simulator to anyone who has a functional brain and a bunch of insane trannies who made it their life's work to deny that isn't my problem. The retards work for free and I coom. The source code is available and if I feel like it, I can just steal all of their dogshit work and fix it myself for my own pleasure and you could as well but you don't because you'd prefer Vrelnir to come back and save you like the bitch you are. If you were a cute girl I'd be jerking off to your helplessness right now.
>>722996151
>look at me guiz i'm le smart REAL 4channer!
Eat shit.
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>>722999069
>The fact that you want everyone to just "fuck off" and forget about it tells me you're one of his new Discord paypigs
lol
I just come here to post this shit >>722937483 and leave, all that I was wondering is why 200+ replies for what you already know
fun starting premise
trannies get in
everything gets cleaned up and censored to appeal to retards who need to project their mental illness into everything

it's over dude, let it go.
vrel doesn't care since he's getting paypig money, and the discord groomers are happy since they can live their demented fantasy on that thing
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>>722998264
Discord fags prolong it as long as possible purely out of spite.
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>>722999895
don't worry, i'll keep posting that shit forever. it really sucks to see this being dead, text games are so rare nowadays, this shouldn't have happened
era is basically the only real thing left but i've already played all of them
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>>722999864
> I'm ubermensch so you don't understand these things.
> I can just steal all of their dogshit work and fix it myself

You're not an übermensch; you're a literal parasite. You talk about fixing it yourself, but you won't. Not only that, but you'll just consume the sanitized version Vrelnir made. Why? Because you're lazy, clearly you have neither the spine nor the balls to fight for things.

You don't care about the truth because you have no principles. You're just a consumer with a “hero” complex who thinks not caring makes you superior. You're the perfect customer for Vrelnir: docile.
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>>722999864
holy fucking mad lol
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>>723001314
Yeah, as I said before the ability to read on this thread has dropped into negative numbers, it can't even be measured anymore.
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>>723001436
There's being literate and not wasting time with some guy's selfwank about how mad he is. Maybe you're smart enough to figure it out.
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>>723001106
>you're a literal parasite.
Hell yeah I am.
>You're the perfect customer for Vrelnir: docile
You think he got a cent off me? Let me reiterate: I coom and I turn it off. I don't give a shit about what cunts on Discord are doing.
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>>723002038
yet you care enough to keep arguing about what cunts on discord are doing



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