Whats the final /v/ereditc?
Is it available on switch 1?
>>722954853No jontron, 0/10
I'm gonna pick it up, but on steam. Luckily I didn't play the original so never had to see its apparent flaws. I'm glad to have avoided the game at the time, waiting has paid off.
>>722954853refuse to play/10
The game is fundamentally ugly and boring. Just because they tweaked the lighting and added some more collectables doesn't fix it.
>>722954853it got me playing the original, what the fuck did people not like about it? it's Banjo Threeie
>>722956192The most vocal Rare/Playtonic “fans” don’t actually know what they want and are easily influenced retards.
>>722956192People call it shit because it's not a 10/10 masterpiece like they expected and Mario Odyssey came out. People call Replaylee shit because it's not a 10/10 masterpiece and Bananza + Astro Bot came out.
/v/ will hold a grudge against this franchise until the end of time because this e-celeb who probably forgot about this and hasn't done anything with video games for a good part of a decade got removed
>>722956510Yooka Laylee came out nearly a year or something before Mario Odyssey even did. Also at the time, we weren't inuidated in PC ports of N64 classics. At the time Y-L came out, it was a bonefide 3D platformer collectathon that was native to PC.>>722956425So I firmly believe this, everyone asked for a throwback game, they got a good one (I give both Laylee and Replaylee 9's out of 10) and they proceeded to act like they didn't want that, it was crazy bullshit.
>>722956510No one played Astro Flop
>>722954853from a gameplay standpoint, pretty much superior to the originalstart with most of the moves that were in the original to streamline progressionrolling no longer uses energy and you can get a second energy ring in the first world, making it a non issue anymorewhile flight is limited to specific locations to activate it's the same was it was in the original so you can go anywheredialogue is way faster so you don't have to sit through it anymorefalling damage and air meters are removed but you can reactivate them with tonics if you want to make it more of a challenge, tonics are now unlocked solely through the main collectible so the more you get the more become available
Is it on swirch 1
>>722954915>>722957531nope
I had a kickstarter for the original but I never ended up playing it.
>>722957218More did than whatever PCslop you slurp from your trough.
>>722954853>30FPS Lmao
>>722957316it feels changed just to be different, I'm hard pressed to name a single better thing introduced. it never mattered that you had stamina to roll, you never ran out unless you were allergic to walking and platforming. 300 pagies but they give them out every 30 seconds, and give sets of three sometimes, it's like what's the point why not retain the original 145 pagies. unlocking new abilities and expanding worlds added progression to the game, and the remaster simply offers cosmetics because it cannot readily do progression anymore having given out every ability to start with. It frankly blows my mind how anyone could hate the original but love the remaster, when every single change is so completely superficial.
It's okay. The "doubled" collectibles is such bullshit, they just added a bunch of Odyssey-tier filler and made some things give 3 instead of 1. The best change is the arcade game that replaces the mini-games. It's better than the actual game. Game runs like shit due to shader compilation, and I don't know what the fuck they did but this game turns my GPU into a space heater more than any big budget AAA games (at 4k120). The overall level design is still not great. The casino level is still just a big box full of shitty mini-games.
>>722956192Levels waaaay too big and not well designed, unfun minigames, boring transformations, ugly characters, only three enemy types (re-used throughout the game).Yooka-Laylee is a perfect example of an imitation game - all the pieces are there but not the competency to put them together properly. Like Crash 4.
>>722958185>The best change is the arcade game that replaces the mini-games. It's better than the actual game.You must be joking, it's so brain dead and straightforward. We lost the Banjo Kazooie styled minigames, that could be played in couch multiplayer, for a worse Toad Treasure Tracker.
>>722954853Don't give them your money.Also game is bad and empty, like platforming though Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts.
>>722958318What. The mini-games in the original are dogshit and the worst part, by far. The whole game is brain dead and straightforward, what a retarded complaint.
>>722958275>Levels waaaay too bigThere's five levels, and exploration felt rewarding. You can even platform up parts of the level geometry in satisfying ways. Levels felt like they were designed by someone who really grasped what made gamers tick in the 90's and early 2000's. Expanding the levels was a good way to bother introduce smaller scale levels, and a reason to return back to the level later if the player wanted more to do and wanted to space out the level variety. The minigames are alright, gut gud. The only thing I could see eye to eye on is that I wish transformations had more things to do with them, they feel one note. Y-L is the perfect example of a throwback to a simpler carefree time, that seemingly gamers by and large merely tell themselves they love.
>>722958502It's retarded to paint with such a wide brush that you label the entire game brain dead and straight forward, when your favorite part of the game is the most like that. Yooka Laylee/Replaylee is a throwback N64 collectathon, you explore 3D levels and look for items and platform around unlocking abilities ect, the fixed camera top down hacky brain dead take on that is terrible. Minigames provided variety to Banjo Kazooie/Tooie and to Laylee, all it did was break up the monotony and provide a nice distraction to the main course.
>>722958793Ok, I don't care. The mini-games in Yooka Laylee looked and felt like shitty asset flip games you would find on the android market place.
kind of off topic but we all agree Hades 2 was a letdown right?
>>722958580>There's five levelsAnd they're too big.
>>722959290yeah there should be two small levels, what a dolt
>>722958793If the whole game is braindead and straightforward then naturally wouldn't one's favorite part of the game have to be braindead and straightforward?>>722959035I didn't play that gay shit.
>>722959395Who said?
>>722959406Maybe they like the worst part of a game they don't think too highly of in the first place, whatever. What's clear to me is that Replaylee somehow appeals to people who snubbed their nose at the original, and that's whack.
>>722959492Eh, nothing wrong with trying to appeal to your target audience.
>>722959492Well that's funny because I thought the original sucked and this doesn't appeal to me at all.
Banjo-Kazooie belongs square in 1998.
>>722959492> What's clear to me is that Replaylee somehow appeals to people who snubbed their nose at the originalYea no shit. No one liked the original, why would you make a game for no one?
>>722956192It had 5 levels. Shit was punching at the same weight class as Grunty's Revenge.
they turned a 6/10 into a 7.5/10, maybe almost 8/10.instead of being bad its just bland.capital bee sucks as a villain.the copy pasted npcs and same pagies per world sucks.being able to 100% every level the first time through is fucking great. never fucking leave a world and come back though, because almost everything returns.there's a LOT to do per world now and they fixed flying.the game is not built around the new pagie count however. you only need 120 pagies to beat it, and levels have 50 per world.sadly the level design is a major flaw and its hard to fix that, but retard backers wanted BT/DK64 size levels and not BK.
>>722958275>too big and not well designed, unfun minigames, boring transformationsthese are 100% inline with Banjo/Tooie/DK64
>>722959762That's not funny, it's just reality. How is flatly doubling the pagies you get in the exact same levels going to improve the game? How is giving all your abilities to you at the start and just adding outfits and consumes going to improve the game? It's the same game, you have no ability progression, you defeat a boss and get three pagies for it while yooka wears a platonic shirt.
>>722960645Underrated, remake that in 3D with a new level and 5 more jiggies for each level and it would go hard.
>>722960792Yes I'm sure a Yooka fan would think that.
>>722954853well i know one thing:following obvious financial trouble at playtonic for the last few years what with their layoffs, 175 steam reviews for the 48 hours following launch, hitting 150 in the first 12 and petering out from there, is not at all a favourable outlook for the studio's future.they should've done tooka-laylee but they didn't.
>>722960724They changed superficial stuff in a 9/10 game and wound up with a 9/10 game.>>722960179They made it for me, Banjo was always good, DK64 was the peak of the N64.
>>722960979>DK64 was the peak of the N64Bad bait. The only reason to buy DK64 was for the free Expansion Pak to play Majora's mask
>>722960937They absolutely should have done a Twoka-Laylee, all I wanted after I played the original was more game to play, some more levels. A sequel would have been satisfying, an expansion pack would have been.
Did they put jontron back in?
>>722956192didnt have the main banjo devslurk moar, newfag nigger and stop samefagging
>>722961035It's not bait, fuck off. DK64 is still great, you can even enhance it with a randomizer, and NO switching characters at anytime with the dpad improves nothing.
>>722961076no, fascists dont get a platform
>>722961086It literally doesn't matter who developed it, you either have eyes or you don't, it's Banjo Threeie.
>>722961052>an expansion pack would have beenthis would have been the perfect chance to make good on the dlc they promised for the original game and quietly shitcanned. just careless.
>>722961162I made it. Thanks for calling my fanmade romhack creation Banjo-Threeie. <3
>>722961105Even as a kid I could tell DK64 sucked. One of the most tedious games I've ever played
>>722961213You were a tasteless mulatto lad.
>>722961213I wanted to let you know that I am new to this website (4channel.org) and your skin is dark because you disagreed with me.
>>722961253You sound like the kind of person who liked Crash Bash more than Mario Party
>>722961152on opposite day
>>722961035>>722961213faggot retarded nigger
>DK64 sucks it's the most tedious game I've ever played
>>722961349>>722961253>>722961510>>722961481wouldn't a black person like DK64 more because all of the characters are monkeys
>>722961105>DK64 is still great,NTA but i disagree on the actual racing and some of the mini games. That is the point of where using save states on an emulator may have a valid use case. Specifically whenever it had something to do with racing the beetle/animal mini games which was infuriating because the controls were so bad. But I liked the main platforming in levels game. I might need to track down a copy of Diddy Kong racing to see if Rare was always that bad at making actual racing controls, because my gut feeling says yes. There's an incredibly frustrating race in Conker's Bad Fur Day for Lava Boarding too.
>>722961886I don't really like beetle races either, but the game is otherwise fantastic. It really does just boil down to how the original game ran at 20fps or so and had framedrops taken into account in some minigames. An emulator that never slows down isn't authentic to how it is on actual console at all.
Badda bing, badda BOOM!Get that black guy out of my room. >>722955068>>722961076
It's what should have been released 8 years ago. Now it's a perfect 6/10 because nothing can fix the game's fundamental flaws, plus it runs worse on every platform.
I didn't play Banjo Kazooie until a few years ago. I enjoyed Yooka-laylee more. To be honest I never bothered finishing Banjo.
>>722963040I stopped at the final boss because the credits had already rolled
>>722963040I don't get how people like Yooka over Banjo. I have zero nostalgia for Banjo because I didn't play it until Rare Replay and it's objectively a more polished, full game. Levels have plenty of points of interest, abilities are fun to use, the villain is likable, there are more unique and varied worlds, and the music is better.
>>722961657>black people don't always confirm to racist stereotypesYou really that surprised?
>>722963668>people like Yooka over BanjoKickstarter cope.
Why was JonTron removed>LeDoesHeKnowMeme.pngNo I don't why do you think I'm asking retard.
>>722963865What is this supposed to imply? Other than that Y-L did not have most/all of the BK developers.
>>722963927it was a mountain out of a molehill.he recorded some throwaway grunts and irks for a faceless npc, then he went on some podcast and did race science, then he got axed from the game. the voice could have literally been anyone and playtonic made a mess of things by reacting kneejerk. now this game's legacy is that they almost had jontron in it, nothing more nothing less.
>>722963947The main level designer and the 'father' of Banjo and Kazooie wasn't involved which is why Yooka Laylee's levels were so shit and the game lacked the smaller touches that made even basic gameplay good.
>>722964014>big ass nothing burgeramazing.
>>722964106Figured as much. I was agreeing with ya, btw.
>>722956192They made the game that e-celebs and zoomer cattle accuse Banjo Tooie and DK64 of being.
>>722963947>What is this supposed to imply?Yooka Laylee was marketed as being made by the veteran Banjo team. A lot of the more important members were not involved and they hired mostly a bunch of new background artists and testers (lol) from the Microsoft era. And then they did stuff like have the original Retxtro minigames designed by their community manager.
>>722964259They're all good games.
>>722961035I, too, let ecelebs form my opinions for me.
>>722963865If they couldn't even get the lead designer, why did they even bother? The biggest Yooka-Laylee problem was the levels which was barely touched in the Re-Playlee version. They really should have just made an entirely new game with new characters because I think the whole IP is just completely fucked beyond repair.
>>722964472What eceleb? What are you even talking about? Literal mental illness. I decided the game was shit before I even had the internet
>>722963865>make spiritual successor to Banjo-Kazooie>main Banjo guy isn't involved>N64 era character designers are now in charge of gameplay design>hire some artists who only worked on Perfect Dark>hire a guy who worked on Sabrewulf>hire the guy who did music for DKC and the guy who did music for BattletoadsIt's like their solution was to get anything that qualified as old Rare because that would mean the game would be like old Rare.
Its actually good though
>>722963668I didn't have much nostalgia for Banjo other than playing it in a children's hospital play room as a child. Since they had an n64 hooked up. I had played a couple of levels. I didn't get around to finishing it until later in my life when it got a remaster for xbox 360. All I can say is that I saw the charm immediately, even though my true nostalgia for it is mixed to spending a limited amount of time with it, it's limited nostalgia. I had a playstation at home, so my time with Nintendo's classics like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time were also limited to either playing it over at a friend's house, in a store, in waiting rooms etc.Banjo Kazoo is great and nothing will change my opinion on that. The fact that I finished it beyond the nostalgia period means that it's a timeless game in my mind. Full of charm and personality, it's definitely a classic. I haven't played Yooka Re-playlee yet so I'll reserve my judgement to see if it somehow surpassed this game.
>>722964521There's nothing wrong with the levels.
>>722954853Looks like shit for toddlers/10.
I can't tell if yooka is a 'bad' platformer or the people who grew up on banjo literally outgrew rare's own collectathon formula.
>>722964521>They really should have just made an entirely new game with new characters because I think the whole IP is just completely fucked beyond repair.Funny you should mention that.>Yooka Laylee implies there's some kind of higher council responsible for the events of the game and you'll have to stop them in a future game>Impossible Lair has some prequel lore and also hints at it>Replaylee straight up retcons all of that, makes Capital B the primary antagonist, and the game now ends with them wondering what their next adventure will beThey have zero clue what to do with the IP and it's worse now because they've been laying off people.
>>722964856see >>722963865
>>722964797The casino and what they insist is a space world are big for no reason. Also, them getting rid of energy entirely was because people spammed the roll just to get across the worlds and had to wait for it to refill.
Banjo was never good
>>722965097and Yooka is still worse
>>722963865They made Viva Piñata too
>>722964856Name a game you like. I'm not gonna shit on it, I'm going to use it as an example to explain how Playtonic did a bad job imitating what they did years ago.
>>722964868sounds neat, could you share more of the yooka-illuminayti lore?
>>722964797No, it's absolute dogshit. Just look at the quill placements. They tried to fix it in Re-Playlee and STILL don't fucking get it. They place them in little crevices and behind shit making them easy to miss. The notes in Banjo are never hidden, they are meant to lead you to the jiggy locations and unexplored areas. This is just as the start of why the level design is horrible.
>>722954853I think the problem with Yooka Laylee or its remake isn't the difficulty, its that it just feels so static and lifeless. Soulless even. Take the Kartos mini-games. You have those bees you have to avoid but they're just sitting there like statues. "I AM AN OBSTACLE!!" In Banjo Kazooie they'd get angry and sting you or something. The track never changes. Think back to Crash Bandicoot 1, why was Bridge to Nowhere memorable in comparison? Cause the bridge gets progressively more messed up.it's just so....second rate. Obligatory. Not made out of passion.
>>722965556Unfortunately there isn't much because the writing was too focused on meta humor.>7 members>the chairmen sent Capital B to retrieve the magic book to rewrite the universe>Dr. Quack was sent to report on his progress
>>722963865It always surprises me to see that they got Steve Mayles back on as the character designer, why couldn't he make another character with as much raw sex appeal as Kazooie? Laylee is so ugly
they dont have nintendo backing anymore.same thing that killed rarewares output
>>722964635I don't think there's any guarantees that having all key team members of old Rare employees on board would have equated to getting something of equal quality to Banjo Kazooie. You may not realise it but that first game may have just been lightning in a bottle for them. This happens all the time with studios becoming something of one hit wonders. Maybe two hit wonders depending on your thoughts of DK64's design. I'm not saying RARE haven't made other good games, only that making 3D platformers is much harder to get right.
if only rare didnt fuck up development and released this on time as a N64 finale
>>722965903>Laylee is so uglyit's funny how they've obviously been trying to fix her garbage design and make it more cute with each game but don't realize the obvious flaw
>>722966072How would Dinosaur Planet being finished have fixed anything?
>>722966126oy vey
>>722965969/v/ is always lazy as fuck like that and likes to find conspiracies to fit their simplistic worldview. all that is missing from that infographic is an international woman's day photo at playtonic as proof that women ruined yooka laylee.The truth is the writing was on the wall with Tooie, the first game was a fluke.
>>722966072>everyone cries about the game we never got>early build finally put up>it's basically the same fucking game
>>722965094>The casinogood level
>>722966173i would have gotten my cozy dino adventure game, and all would have been right with the worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNhvm9-oJ4Y
>>722966248>the first game was a fluke.The problem is Gregg Mayles had a retarded mentality that bigger worlds = better game. The reason DK64 was so big and empty is because that team wanted to one-up the Tooie team who were focused on making a bigger game period. This mentality carried over to Nuts & Bolts and Steve Mayles prioritized it for Yooka Laylee as stated in interviews. It was one of the main selling points.
>>722966424No, it's a shit level. It has the same issue Terrydactyland had and that's the fact that it was clearly designed for the transformation first.
Couldn't this have been an update to the original game? Do we seriously need remakes/remasters of games from the Switch era already? We've had the technology to remotely update games for how many years now?
>>722966504they fell for the open world meme decades before everyone else, can't say they didn't innovate i suppose.
>>722966504>Steve Mayles prioritized it for Yooka Laylee as stated in interviews. It was one of the main selling points.I remember this is what put me off backing the game and I was right because one of the common complaints was the world size
>>722966647artistically yes, fiscally no. playtonic won't admit it but they are on death's door, they need to hype up literally anything they have to show. if this game flops financially, and it already is doing, they're going to shutter by the end of 2026. watch this space.
>>722966647Remember when AlphaDream shat out pointless Mario & Luigi remakes using existing assets, everyone called them stupid, then we found out they were going under? Playtonic has been laying off staff since Impossible Lair.
>>722966790the moment they started 'playtonic friends' i knew they were in trouble. you don't pivot to publishing if developing was going great financially. didn't help that none of what they then chose to publish for the 5 years thereafter released to anything beyond a whimper.
>>722966424The casino world was the best world
>>722966907It's impossible to die since it doesn't have any death pits and it's mostly just shitty timing minigames. It's the worst level, and it's not even close.
Yookalaylee worlds were too big. No I don't want to go back to the same world after expanding it find other gay shit. BK worlds had soul.>>722966504>retarded mentality that bigger worlds = better gameagree>DK64 was so bigIt also needed an expansion pak IIRC because I never finished the game since my parents didn't want to buy that shit for it.
>>722966907I liked the last two levels best
>>722967051>miss a jump>lose a life>lose all lives>start at entrance to levelso these are the Silksong enjoyers, conflating difficulty with time wasting
>>722954853I think the rape scenes were a bit much, and largely unnecessary for a collectathon platformer
>>722967435>miss a jump>lose a lifenow i know you haven't played this game you shithead, go fuck off back to silksong threads so you can keep complaining about your skill issues
>>722967439>a lizard and a bat>stop touching that!>yooka! yooka-laylee!>the ladies>in cagies>who will set them free?>yooka! yooka-laylee!
wow i just beat it after only playing 2 worlds.they removed the fucking quiz.also the entire game i thought there was something wrong with the current build because characters stop making talking sounds every bubble way too early.i think they're trying to distance themselves from banjo kazooie and maybe blame it or something.
>>722954853I used to ship these two
>>722967531whoosh
The original game is more tolerable if you play through all the levels first WITHOUT expanding them. Once you get the flight ability you can expand the levels and clean up at your own leisure. That was probably the intent but they should have pagie gated it off more or something.
>>722967814>they removed the fucking quizno shotwhat the FUCK
>>722968102I think the intent was precisely to expand and come back whenever, so that the levels can be spaced out and varied some more. Like play some of level 1, some of level 2, go to level 3 or expand 1, ect
>>722967814>i think they're trying to distance themselves from banjo kazooieYea, even if they make a second one it's clearly going to be a Mario Odyssey clone instead of Banjo judging by replaylee. I expect them to mimic the hat jump with throwing Laylee out and jumping on her head
>>722956425I found it baffling that people complained about stuff like the characters speaking in gibberish/grunts, like, that's the fucking point
>>722954853Woke slop Yooka laylee sjw shills lost years agoJontron won
>>722956192This was my first hint that maybe just maybe nostalgiafaggot bandwagoners don't actually play the games they're fans of.
>>722968327>don’t wanna be labeled a clone>try to move away from what you were cloning>…by cloning an even bigger and more recognizable game/franchiseSome absolute giga-brains they got at playtonic
>>722960937>muh steam reviewsI swear Pcbros and PC ucks in general spend more time warring over analytics than actually playing games
>>722965903She's even uglier in the remake. I don't even think she was that bad in the original
>>722970006
>>722954853It's honestly quite fun. Maybe a bit too easy, but I have no major complaints so far. I never played the original since everyone said it sucked, but this one is fun, so they must have fixed a ton of shit.
>>722956510>$1140 + tax to play both Dk and Astro BotYeah no.
>>722971142They literally didn't fix anything, they hand out pagies every other minute, you can wear clothes, and there's a tacked on side game that replaces all the mini games. The visuals haven't even been upgraded, the whole remaster is a sidegrade.
>>722971585>tacked on side game that replaces all the minigamesThe Rextro stuff? Were the minigames it replaced any good? I like the game it has now.
>>722968210Non negotiable for spergs who can't leave the level without 100% and cry about muh backtracking
>>722961152This. Imagine being a right wing fascist in the year 2025.
>>722971636https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rNoMjvxMTQThey ranged from meh to dogshit
>>722971585It sounds like they aped Mario Odyssey which seems like a good thing to do if you're making a platformer collectathon.
>>722954853Original was big and empty and had a bunch of jank shit that didn't feel good to play, but I did like unlocking moves and being forced to revisit worlds. This still has big worlds but they put more shit to collect in it which provides more opportunities for number go up, and they added the coins to just be something else to collect and use for cosmetics and shit, but it makes the worlds feel way less empty. Also a lot of the jank shit is either gone or changed to feel better. But all the moves are unlocked from the beginning now, so you don't HAVE to leave a world until you're done with it. This is going to be something that is to taste, but I feel like more people will like this change.All of this said, I think employing the remake to redo something that was mediocre or dogshit is actually a great idea because usually it's always shit that was already good just getting a new coat of paint or whatever. And in this case, they're using the chance to try and improve upon things people didn't like. I would largely say it is an improvement. If you've never played the original, you should probably play this. If you've played the original, maybe just wait for a sale.
>>722955340yooka laylee is so fucking bright and looks like pure shit. was one of the main reasons i avoided it
>>722954853shit/10
>>722954853The original was kind of disappointing. Enough so that I won't be playing the remake. Also this game isn't even a decade old, it was literally on the last console generation, why are we retreading it already?
>>722963865I didn't realize that they got both of the character designers from Banjo. The designs in Yooka Laylee are just so uninspired compared to first two Banjo games, what the fuck happened?
>>722954853Here's their brand manager talking about how they made this remaster if you're curious. Not surprised it's incredibly cynical and market-tested, not something someone actually wanted to fix, it's just maximum profits from existing assets. Fuck these people.
>>722955340Fucking hell i hate the design of that character so much, i generally like the remake a lot more, but they are fucking retarded for not scrapping that design completely.Not only is it ugly as fuck, but it's such a boring concept for a character, especially with it being one of the main npc's
>>722972186fuck you
Something I noticed when I played the original is the writing is toothless. All the characters in Banjo constantly called Grunty a fat stinky hag. There's hardly anything like that here. I get that the writing in Tooie was pushing it and getting too cynical and mean spirited but still. Wow that sure is a pig on a pogo stick. The NPCs needed to fit the world better too. Why is the main race of the swamp besides the nameless pumpkins a bunch of shopping carts?
>>722976391Laylee doesn't say insults verbatim, but there's a lot of coy remarks. Like the cannon character, she says he's a loose cannon lets get out of here before he goes off.
>>722956698Yes, that was the dumbest shit. YL was exactly what I wanted it to be. I have precisely two complaints about the game, but they're less complaints and more quibbles.1. Each world needed more enemy variety, or at least reskins of the common grunts to fit the world theme. (I beat the game at launch, if they changed this in later patches disregard)2. There should have been at a minimum two more worlds, but ideally 3-4 to really get that proper feel of collectathon game length.
>>722968646>people complained about stuff like the characters speaking in gibberish/grunts,Yeah. This is what got marks against it from not only professional reviewers, but apparent Banjo fans complaining about the grunting and gibberish getting 'old' and repetitive too. When that could be listed as a valid complaint with the original. That is one valid example of BK fans genuinely not knowing what the fuck they even wanted. But perhaps the argument stops there because it is actually far off kazooie in terms of how the levels were designed.
>>722977074namaste anon, all I wanted was more levels, I loved the game. It rubs me so wrong to see clickbait headlines like "Yooka Replaylee fixes the game!" like god damn, modern gamers are superficial fucktards
>>722965903That is literally just a bird with eyelashes anon
Anyone find it weird we got a remake less than a decade after the original?I am glad I dropped yookalaylee since I get a mostly fresh experience on this do over.
>>722954853All the character designs looks like Pixar shit with bean mouths and toothy grins. I don't like that one bit.
>>722979185Good point. Why doesn't Laylee have eyelashes? Why is she so male coded?
>>722956192No one is ready for the discussion that Tooie is actually an incredibly mediocre, needlessly huge and shit game fraught with non-stop padding and backtracking.Yooka Laylee was a sequel to that down to the shitty minigames, needing a boring boss in every world and terrible quizzes at the end which failed to recapture the fun of Furnace Fun in Kazooie.
>>722979430>failed to recapture the fun of Furnace Fun in KazooieIsn't that just the Yooka IP in a nutshell? The first game failed to recapture the fun of Banjo and the second failed to recapture the fun of DKC, either the old Rare games or the new Retro ones. Yooka has no identity beyond "whatever Rare game we're ripping off", no iconic characters, no soul.
>>722979430Kazooie is objectively a more tightly designed game, but I still have a soft spot for the interconnected, vast world of Tooie even if the vastness of it often makes the game worse
>>722979643It's almost as if the ACTUALLY IMPORTANT people weren't involved in making the game. Speaking of which, what are the Stamper bros doing right now?
>>722979430>an incredibly mediocre, needlessly huge and shit game fraught with non-stop padding and backtrackingThey're called metroidvanias, son
>>722954853>Cuc khold manipulator tricks popular YouTuber into saying something semi-based>Gets cancelled, removed from gamegrumps, removed from game he was a cameo on, sponsors removed and demonitized>He realizeses gaming is FUCKING INFESTED by leftoid subhumans, so he quits gaming altogether>Makes comedic reviews of 90's shows/movies/toys/advertisements>Gets monetization back>Becomes even more successful >Gets married >Has a kid>Meanwhile the cuc k that got him cancelled is facing child porn chargesHow did he do it?
>>722964353that CM got laid off and now works at some blockchain web3 game dev lmao
>>722964797>the original levels in yooka were already too big, but now they're expanded by default so they're way too damn big>still very boring world themes that lack themed enemies or npcs>still barely any landmarks or setpiecesi wouldnt say adding in more collectibles and a map and fast travel are proper fixex, its more like a band-aid. the levels are still bland and uninteresting. i never needed fast travel or a map to get around banjo-kazooie's worlds and i almost never used fast travel in odyssey
>>722970246I mean, this is the same studio who said when TIL was announced "people might go 'this is Playtonic, so this must be the successor to Donkey Kong Country, so we must do something different to make those comparisons" while making a game that shamelessly rips off Tropical Freeze at every turn.
>>722980254>to make those comparisonsavoid those comparisons*Woop just woke up
>>722979802Tim's son started a mobile game company or something and they invested in it
>>722979857>removed from gamegrumpsJon left GameGrumps because he literally moved across the country.
>>722977074>YL was exactly what I wanted it to beman you must have had zero standardsit didn't even do basic shit better than banjo did. took fucking four patches for them just to get the movement right and replaylee basically went "shit, we never did get it right until now"
>>722967814They didn't remove the quiz, it's just hidden. A Pagie does a quiz in a couple of the worlds. If you 100%'d world 2 you've already done one of them, even.
>>722976051It may surprise you to learn (it shouldn't) that this is how all game companies are run. If you don't think Mario and Pokemon and COD games are focus tested to within an inch of their lives, you are a moron. Nobody is more risk averse than these company boards.
Why the hell didn't they just patch the original? Oh yeah, money.The level design still sucks (3 out of 4 levels are just shit dropped on a flat plane) and I assume other problems persist like a small and constantly reused cast of NPCs, confusing icons like the ice that's either broken with fire or sonic shouting, and uninteresting characters.
>>722981449>patch the originalBecause, as people seem to be failing to understand, this is a completely different game on a fundamental level. Different engine, redone textures, altered code, and so on. It's not just a 'Switch 2 upgrade' as I've seen some people compare it to, it's a fucking ground-up remake on a separate executable.
>>722981581>this is a completely different game on a fundamental levelgenuinely impressive that they kept everything starting with the swamp just as shit and simply removed boosting from kartos without fixing the track design
>>722954853So from my understanding, this is a remake that overhalls the game from a B&K clone, to a Mario Odyssey clone?
People dont like this game because the devs caved to backlash and removed Jontron from a role despite him not even speaking.
>>722981581>fucking ground-up remakedo you know what words mean? replaylee still built on the original, they're still using unity. it's not from the ground-up or a remake.
>>722982070No, Team17. The game is still shit.
>>722954853>ProsControls much much betterFaster load timesLighting isn't hideousSmooth animationIncentivizes collecting60 fps>ConsSmall move setLow challenge ceiling Bland charactersTransforms suckStory is lazyNo voice actingLittle incentive to 100%Doesn't do anything newBad overworldNew Rextro games are one note>ReplayleeWorth $20 but they have a lot of work to do for a sequel and they probably should just shelf the franchise and move on
>>722979857>>Meanwhile the cuc k that got him cancelled is facing child porn chargeswait really
>>722954853What was even the point of remaking this game? What did they change?
I think their best bet is ripping off Astro Bot for Twoka Laylee. Nostalgia themed small levels, a hub world you "build", and use time trials and collectibles for people who actually want a challenge. But top talent doesn't want to work at Playtonic so it'll probably be a lazy Mario Odyssey ripoff.
>>722954853The noises Yooka makes are really annoying, he sounds gay