>still 1 year away from 8.0XIV is gonna be dead for awhile, isn't it?
>722989979mental illness
>>722989880It honestly blows my mind how fucking far XIV has fallen thanks to Yoshida.People sucked his toes for the longest time but now look at the public reception to the current state of the game.The MSQ being the fucking worst anyone has ever seen finally broke the camel's back, and I'm glad it did, but the fact that they doubled down and just told us to expect less content at a slower pace blew my fucking mind.I'm never resubbing again lmao. Ain't no fucking way dude.
>>722991130they really fumbled it with EW, should've made it 2 expansions
might finally unsub after i've done the EW and DT raids but the queue time is so long
They'll never get all the people who quit back. The gameplay is total shit to anyone who isn't a zoomer whose first tab-target MMO it is, and the combat was just something you had to put up with as the price for interacting with to progress through the world. Now that people have been "forced" to take a break from it, they'll realize how terrible it would be to come back.
>>722992253people would come back if they fixed the comeback, not everyone who left would come back but still
the dawn has trailed and now we enter dusk
>>722992253do you ever get tired of sitting here making the same posts every single day, being upset that people are playing a game you don't like
>>722995009>le "everyone is the same person" DT defense force trannyThe game is dead, you need to accept that.
>>7229898801 year or 1.5 year, I thought people said this would come Q1/Q2 2027
>longer content cycle just means we have more threads with more people who are >">"suddenly"" realizing (after their second expansion) that the almost 15 year old game that has barely ever changed its content style was only ever gaining popularity because it remained consistent while every other mmo was doing everything it could to shit the bed and simultaneously retain subs
>>722989880>XIV is gonna be dead for awhile, isn't it?But the people who dropped the game would return to it after the next expansion releases?
>>722995470yes, so it's dead until the new expac launchesbut if it isn't good and it doesn't come with a free DT skip, the game is dead for good
Is this the thread?
>>722996659>doesn't come with a free DT skipThere is no point in having better content without the context of what it's improving upon
>>722997021>without the context of what it's improving upon99% of people haven't watched a single non mandatory cinematic in this game, I literally dropped this game last time I played because I got to a point that there was a shitton of mechanics being presented to me without I knowing what the hell they were supposed to be, plus, the game was a fucking barren wasteland, on the last expac at the time I had to always play with bots because no fucking soul would get into dungeons.
>>722997021holy cope
>>722997021give a quick summary to players who use the skip i guessnot that much important stuff happend in 7.0
>>722996853what thread?
the game is better than it was during ANY of the endwalker patches.yeah the DT MSQ was shit but you only did that once and then never engaged with it again. what about the other endgame activities? DT has a ton of them. EW had... the fucking island and some dungeons you did a few times and then never touched again.once again these threads just proves nobody here actually plays the game, they just sub once an expac, do the MSQ, and then dip out until the next
>>722997568yeahForked tower is just so amazing
>>722997479The lala thread
>>722997568When was the last time you ran Chaotic tranny?
>>722997816nono lalas and no hroths
>>722997568>once again these threads just proves nobody here actually plays the game, they just sub once an expac, do the MSQ, and then dip out until the nextThe vast majority of people don't enjoy raiding because it's not fun and nobody gives a fuck about how "skilled" you are at PvE content in an MMO, it's just for 20 year old ricer boys. Fun combat and long term grinds that contribute to player power are what kept people playing MMOs consistently, but those are all gone now.
>>722997730good thing DT's endgame has more to offer than OC and FT>>722997842>deflectingwhen was yours?>>722997879this isn't endwalker. raiding isn't the be-all end-all of endgame activities.
>>722989880Who would have thought promoting the guy that wrote the worst content of the game to main writer and letting the american DEI commissar help him would turn out bad??
>>722998084Matsuno didn't write dawmtrail
>>722998197Hiroi has written far worse than bozja, which he also contributed to
>>722998410The bad parts of dawmtrail are Kate and yoship fault
>>722998613yoshi clearly didn't know any better and just went along with itkate enabled Hiroi and most likely gave him bad ideasbut the biggest fault lies with Hiroi
>>722998918>most likelyi meant absolutely
Is completing the Pilgrim Traverse weekly challenges really the only way to get lumi oil? I guess having the whole toolkit at least makes this DD way more engaging. The lil mudball floors are funny.
I did the MSQ on dawntrail launch but it was so bad I didn't even bother with 5.1 and I haven't had the curiosity to go throught the rest of it. Unfortunately I have been playing this since ARR so I'll inevitably resub to do the msq and I'll check out the expansion anyway like the good goy I am but fuck if the game generated any engagement for me this past few expansions.I always level up crafters and gatherers but after 3 (4?) expansions of the same damn experience I can't even be bothered to farm equipment anymore.
>>722999706If you don't raid, you shouldn't play before .55 patch. At least you'll have everything the expansion has to offer (which isn't a lot if you exclude savage content since this game has mostly that)
>>722991130>but now look at the public reception to the current state of the game.the worst reception comes from guys that keep getting banned on twitter for verbally attacking people that aren't also screaming like soijaks about the gameso without counting them since they're removing themselves from the community by behaving like animals anyways it's just lukewarm overall
>>722999854nigger watALOT of normal people did not like DT
>>722992253>make expansion on another shard>market it like ShB, make a good traileryou have no idea how easy it is to bait people to come back
>>722998613>the writing being absolute dogshit is the fault of the director (glorified producer) who hasn't actually played the game outside of fan events and a localizer who helped hire a nepotrannyCould you help clarify what made you come to this conclusion? You realize the writing is still shit in japanese too, right?
>>723000069i said what i said, the worst reception came from people that are absolutely not being normal about it
>>723000069did not like equates to don't care abouta lot of people didn't like fallout 4 but they were shocked and surprised when bethesda's next game also turned out to be even worse in every way
>>723000069A lot of normal people don't rant about shit writing and the MSQ being ruined forever and Yoshitpiss needing to step down and Hiroi needing to commit suicide like these threads commonly have
>>723000161isn't it like that for most thingsthe eternal normalfag tends to be pretty apathetic
>>723000413that's what i mean by a lukewarm reception, normal people aren't going to transform frame-by-frame into a clown like an animorphs book cover so you're just not gonna hear from them, they're just gonna drop the game entirely and come back later once it appeals again
98% of people who did not like DT were civil about it, leave a negative review on steam or mention the issues in the forums, then unsubbedthe people sending death threats are a vocal minority
>>723000413normalfags quit silently, let the game go and moved on to something else, instead of continuing to come to xiv outlets to continue whining and whinging months after the fact like a beaten wife
>>722999854>guys that keep getting banned on twitter What is this new copeTwitter was defending the shit out of Dawntrail
>>722989880Awhile? It not going to be resuscitated.
>>723000692>leave a negative review on steamUnironically even this is too much work for somebody who just casually dislikes the game and is capable of being normal about it. Think about Dawntrail's reviews on Steam (the page for the DLC/expansion, specifically) where the biggest negativity spike ever is 4 reviews, and the page gets perhaps two new reviews every week or two, versus the base game's page getting triple that activity in both directions simply because it's easier to get to.
>>723000924Some ban waves have been going out lately on "dedicated Dawntrail haters" because they're provably harassing other people. A post on /v/ yesterday or the day before mentioned AthenaAreia the zodiark trancer had to rebrand because he got banned too, this one only being notable because he also spent Twitter time ranting about "dysgenic troons" and his hatred against the game being righteous and pure there is no evidence Athena ever played the game
>>723000413you kidding? my fc full of normies constantly blogging about their jobs and pets is full of people who were disillusioned by DT, it made them realize they were playing the game mostly for the MSQ.and people ARE quitting the game in droves, you can tell just by watching how many houses became available since they re-enabled the demolitionsthe big difference is that normies can just take the losses and silently fuck off instead of haunting threads about a game they don't play for years on end hoping one things will magically do a 180 for no reason at all. people who do that shit are absolutely not normal
>>722989880How do people find cool / cute glams? I'm still rocking job equipment for the time being but I'd like some diversity or just something casual to wear
>>723001184Float around on GamerEscape and check out sets equippable by your job, all of the all-class glamour sets will be available at level 1 also
>>723001184Go on eorzeacollection and look up your job to get some ideas
>>723001184i use glamourer to preview and combine pieces and dyes i think match until something clicks then go get whatever pieces i'm missingthis shit is impossible without addons, the dressing room is dogshit and god forbid you want to preview an item you don't have in your extremely limited storage space
Twins
It's the end of the expansion.The prelude to the big final battle.And I'm shutting down the power for a theme park for dead people...I'm at the fake volcano area, please tell me it's nearly over.
>>723001504I need furbuki and all the other twincest fujos to get off their asses and draw these two fucking like animals already.
Is there any alternative mod/program to XivAlexanders previous ability to display multiple languages at the same time? The guy seems to have abandoned his project due to DT being shit and rather than fix anything gutted all of it.
>>723001573you have one final area of bullshit in the top left which is fairly quick, the final instance and trial and you're done... with base DT.
havent played in a while but I miss my female elezen sometimes
>>723001857need scarecrow woman
>Make gold with ShB>WE NEED TO END THE STORY FASTER>QUICK LETS DESTROY GARLEMALD OFF SCREEN AND CONCLUDE THE ARC WITH ZODIARK SO WE CAN USE AN ASSPULL BOSS LIKE THE ENDSINGER TO TIE IT ALL UP>Ok yoshi now what? >Idk lets do a vacation xpack or something lol>dawntrailWhat was this retard thinking
>>723001016you're a special kind of retard, aren't you
>>723001857I love female Eezen women so much it's unreal
>>722989880>p-please come play our game filled with cheaters Nah
Threads are fucking dead without shitposters
>>723002020it is a mysteryyou'd think people would be invested in the current plotline so they'd actually want garlemald as its own expansion like originally intendedmaybe they just wanted the end result of unlocking travel to other shards so we get more final dungeons that are flashbacks on the final villain
>>723002185We can always lewdpost
>>723002185thank god, i will gleefully take a zombie thread at constant risk of death over one choked by spam and shitposters
>>722989880Why can blizzard release 4 expansions in the last 5 years while square was only able to release 2?
>>723002228Garlemald is so low-interest that the only people who care it died ignominiously like every other empire in FF games are Roman larpers on social media>>723002338WoW expansions are notorious for sometimes only having the content of one FFXIV foray-zone patch
>>723001573it is almost overthe volcano quiz quest is the 2nd to last quest iircstay strong soldier
>>722991130The moment sweet baby inc was brought on due to Square Enix insistence, it was over. Look how fast one communist group destroyed a million dollar product. And then it went downhill very fast to the point Yoshida defending all the western jewish decisions.
>>723002338because they're greedy want to put out shorter expansions with less patches and less content and blizztroons will happily eat that up and pay early access + mount tip
>>722997876damn I didnt know moogles were that gangsta
>>723002338because midnight is a glorified patch and blizzdrones will happily eat that shit up
>>723002740It looks like 1.0 text/graphics (but I'm not 100% sure) so it's double based.
>>722992253>Tab target mmo>zoomer??????????????????????
>>723002338Blizzard has 3 teams working on WoWSquare wasted all the XIV money on other retarded projects
>>723002681sweetbaby only helped with forspoken to my knowledge
>>723002681
>>723002740Have you not heard about Good King Moggle Mog and his merry band of knights?
>>723002338blizzard's activision overlords is forcing them to release xpacs with less content more often
>>723002940>thinking alisae would be the dominantShe clearly wants to be submissive.
anyone else ever felt this way?I used to play WoW private servers since I was a middle schooler in 2006, whenever I would quit I would just come back to some random other server half a year or more later because the gameplay and world and the adventure feeling of it all was so engrossing. I now play WoW classic (started with wrath) but mostly just raidlog, I'm getting 99s on warcraftlogs and all that and I am loving the raiding but the overworld is boring and shit, but then here's the catch.I gave FFXIV a go back in 2011 summer during the whole megahype era before endwalker, and while I was absolutely swept up by the game and its systems for over two years, I couldn't think about doing anything after work and weekends but playing FFXIV, the social aspect of it was inviting too with many girls being very open socially and sexually so I've gone to discord voice chats within hours or days of meeting half the girls and ERP-ing/camming there, etc.but while I loved the story, extreme trials, savage raids, hell even the three ultimates I did, eureka (ba), bozja (dr savage), you name it, I did most of things at least once, got 90 on all characters, but after I felt like I am burning out on the game, I've unsubbed and haven't had the same "WoW's adventure" call to the mmo even once during those 2-3 years since i've been unsubbed. I wonder why that is?Honestly the only thing I miss is the bpd egirls who are easy to fuck around with and get nudes of.
>>723002338The expansions are just patches. They are selling patches now as expansions. Thats why the expansions have less content compared to before.
>>723003098>I gave FFXIV a go back in 2011 summer during the whole megahype era before endwalker>2011>megahype era before endwalkerbotslop post or deranged zoomer schizobabble?
>>723003098>parsetranny>exodus wowtouristplease please PLEASE tell me you copypasted this from reddit
>>723002338WoW is just bigger with way more players, it make sense they invest more money and resources
>>723003212it was 2011 when the game was reaching peak hype, no? I started in the summer and Endwalker released in december, what do you not understand?
>>723003315
>>723003254I'm not a parsetranny, I never cared about parses in FFXIV and I never paid for WoW until AFTER FFXIV, never played retail either.But when playing wrath/cata/mop classic raiding in a high-end guild doing parse runs and speed runs is kinda fun. It's just high-end PvE, idk what else to say.
>>723003394>I'm not a parsetranny>doing parse runs and speed runs is kinda fun.lol
>>723003378you're the one baiting nigger
>>723003461ah yes, let me quit my wow guild just because they play well and fast, you fucking reprobate.
>>723003098>2011>>723003315>it was 2011 when the game was reaching peak hype>2011>>723003487kill yourself immediately, retarded fuck
>>723003487>using AI to argue for youjesus christ
>>723002926>Blizzard has 3 teams working on WoWJesus I hope not, they don't have 3 teams' worth of work to show
>>723003315Given that ARR didn’t even release until 2013, no I don’t think that 2011 was the pre endwalker hype phase actually
ok you niggers yes I meant 2021 fuck you
>>723003131What a weird cope>5 new zones>2 new races>3 new raids>9 dungeons, including 2 refurbished classic dungeons>"Big” expansion feature: Archaeology>Midnight>4 new zones, each larger and more detailed than multiple Cataclysm zones combined>2 new allied races>3 new raids>8 new dungeons>11 new delves>Big expansion feature: HousingAnd they are releasing the content faster now.
>>723003098where the hell are you people finding all these "bpd egirls"? every fucking time i read this shit i keep thinking this shit is a made-up story to push the "hurr durr wow is for gameplay xiv is for yapping" narrative. i started playing way in stormblood and the only women i've ever talked to were bored stay at house wives in their 30s-40s who may as well be glued to their husband's character who do not do ERP or even use mods
Kuso-p deserves it for appealing to wowfags with Endwalker.
>>723003850>>midnight>>two allied racesLIAR.
>>722991741>the queue time is so longMotherfucker are you on Materia trying to queue at midnight or something?
>>723003970Sorry 1 alied race.
>>723003894for me finding a f*male not lewding herself is the exceptionI wish there were more trvd maidens in this game
Sadly MMORPGs will never die since the people who play it are mentally ill and with an adiction worse than cocaine.
>>723001184pick a goal. i was bothered by the immersion breaking outfits some people wore (arcadion gear isn't immersion breaking in arcadion but it is in pre DT content) so i wanted something that looked like it fit the settingi wanted a healer glamour that kinda fit all healer classes (granted this one doesn't fit sage very well) so no AF armormy character is an adventurer from eorzea so i dress her like one. she wouldn't be out of place in the background of any ARR cutscene, minus the weapon. attempting to be 'unique' is going to make you more faceless and milquetoast than just effectively copying an npc
>>723003098Share the nudes plz (assuming they are of age, of course)
>>723003850The first patch of TWW was literally not finished. Then they released the next one, and you can tell it was rushed cause nothing made sense narratively. After that, they released another zone that was done just to appease goblins, and the latest zone is as lazy as korthia from SL. It's rather amazing how Everquest can release expansions with lots of content far quicker than WoW despite WoW having more money. Midnight is just a major patch. Having housing and recycling one of your elf zones as content is as lazy as it gets.
>>723003894I played in european light servers and the average player's age is 20-30, and you can often see who's approachable through their nameplates and shit, I also surprisingly barely ever came across trannies and usually they're pretty easy to sus out.But while most of these girls you meet are fun they are usually problematic in the long run and they're only fun for a few weeks tops after that the traumadumping and various other issues come out where even fucking around with starts becoming hard.I once literally saw some chick getting verbally assaulted by some random fucking guy saying she's the worst person ever and I just whispered her "i want you to ruin my life" and two days later she was sending herself naked in cat ears. It's not a daily occurence but it happened more often than I thought was possible as an ex-wow player.
>get to 7.1>not feeling any love for the game anymore>friend messages saying she wants to start playing>make a character on her server and start from scratch>enjoy the game again>she burns out before the first ShB trial
>>722991130The game honestly has just changed so much in how it feels that it doesn't feel like the same game anymore, not to mention how there's only so much we can expect from these devs who generally learn the wrong lessons and listen to the worst part of the playerbasealso funny how they brought on Amerimutt VA's again and the quality of the EN voice work went down the toilet
We all know the culprit is Endwalker and to an extent Shadowbringers. Best to chop off that infected limb and start over from 5.3. Make the 6.0 expansion that XIV players would want to play, not for wow migrants
>>723004419"The Woman Within" is perhaps the only tranny joke on 4chan that's ever gotten a laugh from me
>>723004167too late, you've lied and were caught red handed, now i don't and won't believe anything you say, blizzshill
>>723004691storywise, Shadowbringers was a high-point, gameplaywise, it was a deathknell
>>722995272XIV isnt as consistent as people like to claim. They have dropped many things like squadrons, diadem and island sanctuary. The patch cycle is increasing each expansion with not enough to warrant it. They love catering to raiders with real content while they think casuals only like slop like fishing boats.
>>723004723It started back in BFA.
>>722989880Is this the game people only "play" to ERP?
>>723002393Delusional. One WoW raid has more content than entire raid series in XIV.
>>723004960That's why I said start from 5.3. The story up until then was solid. All they had to do from that point onwards is NOT go into the Final Days. Deal with Garlemald and start setting up clues for the Ancients and the Final Days. As for gameplay they need to revert it back to 2.0 and experiment more with elemental and physical stats.
>>723005176Yep. FF14 is just Second Life Final Fantasy edition. Which is odd cause the game has lots of mature themes that the types who gravitate usually avoid due to puritan reasons.
>>723005139Man imagine tying your masculinity to WoW like this guy did.
>>723005176>>723005331Futanari draenei are waiting for you back home in Azeroth
>>723005349has nothing to do with masculinity. But WoW was built on male stories and themes. And Blizzard did change a lot of shit to appease the feminists. Couple it with a sylvanas fangirl and woke writers, it didn't survive.
>>723005224when we get the offline version where stormblood was also the intended two expacs worth of content, we can get the intended garlemald experience
>>723005532>has nothing to do with masculinity. But WoW was built on male stories and themes.Bitch come on.
>>723005586Would've loved the one that was just the eastern part of Eorzea. Its sad they weren't comfortable making the middle east proxy and had to fall back on Japanese aesthetics.
>>723005650You want to see what happens when a woman writes WoW stories? Oh wait, it did happen.
>>722991130ARR-SB was peak. When all the wow babies and mod ERPers infested the game after SB2 is when it went to shit and will never recover. Shame, ARR was really comfy.
>have little niche market with tidy 15k profit>others try to muscle in>flood market with at cost + 1 gil oh yeah, its gaming time
>>723005331God i wish that was me
>>723005139What the fuck is he kvetching about? WoW has always been woke. Warcraft itself went full woke with WC3, and you could also see it in the trailer for the canceled adventure game about Thrall that came with WC2, which draws clear parallels with slavery in the US, with humans being portrayed as evil, and the orcs as misunderstood victims.That was in the fucking 90s.
>>723005780It's not masculinity, it's just masculinity and no girls allowed. WoW novels are all dog ass, mediocre dollar store romance is a leg up if anything
>>722992253Some will come back, they still have a "We've totally improved guys" chance with 8.0. But it's going to be a rough sell for anyone to go>Yeah buy the expac and the MSQ skipFrankly they should, never will, but should, include an MSQ skip packaged in 8.0. Play it off as a chance for new players to play with their friends, but we all know what it is.>>722997568Crunch the actual content and not just platitudes and the solitary difference between this and endwalker patches is:>Chaotic raid>Deep dungeon and field instance (Instead of deep dungeon or field instance but not both)>Monster Hunter tie in bossOtherwise everything else is exactly at the same release scheduling as before. It's galling to hear the bold faced lie of "DT has more content now than any previous expac at that same time".Hopefully beastmeme will be fun. If I wasn't burnt in optimism with prince of lies Yoshida I'd have more hope like I did for island sanctuary, but we'll see. >>723005176What people pine for in returning is not 'wow I miss the raids' or 'wow I miss the open world content', it's second life shit or their characters. They really should just accept that and double down on it.
>>723006164What happened was a bunch of faggots tried to turn Gamer into a political identity.
>>723006190Nearly everyone who skips the MSQ in XIV quits. People deny it, but XIV basically 'is' the MSQ with raids and daily dungeons as a bonus social activity.
>>723006164they even sail to Africa lol
>>723006327They sail to America you massive tool
>>723006178Video game novels always tend to be bad. The Guild Wars 2 release tie in ones are to date the worst novel I have ever read bar fucking none. It is so fucking comically bad I'll rank Dawntrail's MSQ as better than it (and I think Wuk is far worse than Trahearne, too). Just absolutely no sense of pacing, events happen 1-2-3 one after the other without the slightest passage of time. Atrocious characters and the only grace I can show it is I don't recall any grammatical or spelling issues.>>723006164Some of that to be fair is just Metzen et al deciding orcs are their dindu nuffin golden childs. Less to do with wokeness and more to do with they can never do any wrong. Can't fucking stand the crybully shit of the orcs. Trolls are based though.>>723006286I def won't deny it. It's why I call XIV a glorified visual novel. The MSQ wasn't just the dam holding things back, it was the bonding agent that held everything together. People invoked "the illusion of choice" with 2 more years of Elpis arguing as if it was a bad thing but ultimately that was>People were invested in your writing enough to care and argueContempt is worse than hatred for a game because people hate destiny and still fucking play it for some misbegotten reason. But I look at XIV now and I just feel more contempt for DT than hatred.
>>723004419>narratively>World of Warcraft>Blizzard>MMORPGyeah anon, yeah
>>722989880trust the plan hold the line trust yoshita
>>723006404yes the gazelle and rhinos of Americans great planes
>>723006286Come to think of it yeah I'm in agreement, people that skip the whole VN part of the game tend to bitch about having nothing to do and not understanding what's going on. I don't think MSQ is EVERYTHING because everybody bumps into no-more-MSQ sooner or later but I do agree it's the vast-majority timesink of the game and that people who skip it always drop like flies.
>>722991130A year and a half ago the game had 1.7million characters actively playing the game each month, it had daily threads here that would hit bump limit, it had a massive social media profile and reach, it had streamers, content creators and almost all of them bar maybe 10 have quit the game.Anyone remember OkayMage for example? It wasn't just that the MSQ and Dawntrail sucked a massive dick, it was that they refused to listen to players saying they didn't like the expansion, the characters and doubled down on their heavily disliked vision for the game.
How would (you) fix FFXIV?
>>723006751Just make a new game
>>723006716I need to breed Alisaie and her mom (and her brother)
The msq is a minor problem right nowI'm not paying another month if after I beat the MSQ the only grind content is Hunts and Fates meanwhile I level alt jobs then after a year getting another Occult Crescent and another DD.The game really needs an overhaul for content
>>723005748It's going to be especially weird if we get that hingashi centric expac down the line. I mostly just wish we got an actual expac with Ilberd as the dubiously evil third party between Eorzea and Garlemald rather than him just an hero-ing because "dude what if I just nuked everyone with Bahamut 2, then ala mhigo would be super free (if it still exists) lmao" leading into his entire plan getting gibbed offscreen by omega who then goes to take a post-fuck smoke and pass out while he gets cucked by Zenos anywayIf we were going to take such a huge break from the Ascians either way they could have spent more time building impact on the fact that they literally only had two people still in charge, as well. Also not let the whole Gaius subplot fizzle out during pre-EW planning
>>723006613That isn't to say I dont think the MSQ cant be improved. A little bit more streamlining. Maybe allow people to co-op more of it somehow. More combat encounters.
>>723006830We both know that ain't possible because it would make people play the game instead of jerking each other off in their $9.99 box.
It literally lost all it's holding power in the MMO market which is wild. The only people that stayed are the mod gooners and people who own houses but even then a lot of people who had houses left the game when 14k houses became available a few months back. Which were promptly bought up by RMT bots to abuse the submarine system. Even the community engagement with this game is down unless you're in the plethora of gooner discords. All the funny short clips that surrounded the game stopped. Even the retards recycling unfunny memes aren't even getting engagement anymore. The main thing that was keeping me into the game was the MSQ/lore and DT FUCKING SUCKED.
>>723003754
>>723006813>The msq is a minor problem right nowBecause the people who cared about the MSQ have quit and that was the majority if the player base.
>>723004085euro serversmiddle of the day on a weekendlater in the day after work hours during work daysnothing
>>723006716I'm hating the game (contempt anon) but I'd caution that it may be too early to say they 'refused to listen to players saying they didn't like the expansion' - the reduction of Wuk in the MSQ following 7.0 seems to suggest they are aware of that. In rhetoric yeah they aren't but I can see that just being they still can't throw DT under the bus yet. I would not be surprised if we hear more of that hedging>We learned from DT what you all want, so we will be doing X Instead of Yat fanfests, which is corporate speak for "Yeah we got you you hated DT".For a comparison I was talking battlefield with a friend - I looked up shit with BF6 and I gather it's ass so I'm not getting it, but I thought BF1 or 4 had 128 man matches. Yet I looked it up and apparently they tried 128 man matches in BF 2042 and the fans didn't like it so Dice said 'we are beholden to what the fans want' and removed it back down to 64 player matches. My bet is during BF 2042's misbegotten life they didn't go>Aight sorry guys yeah we know 128 players suck dick we'll do better next timeRather in the leadup to their next game they went "Yeah we learned our lesson, the fans wanted X so we're giving them X In our new game".Right now if Yoshida shits on DT it does nothing good for DT, it just makes people more hopeful for 8.0. Unless he shits on it in a way that goes "7.4/7.5 is going to fix issues you guys had" to get people to resub for that. But while we won't get dogezas or completely throwing DT under the bus, we should (Hopefully. Maybe) get some oblique "yeah we goofed" messages when they are trying to hype up 8.0. The question will be if they are sincere or just PR shit.
>>723002228Shadowbabs and endbryos hate Garlemald and pretty much everything about the setting that isn't Emet and Venat.
>>723006178>>723006751I wouldnt. It's dead.
>>723007123The MSQ is an easy fix because you only to add more scions, more fanservice, a more adult story and that's allThen you will have players saying "FFXIV IS BACK" for a month, but if after that the game is still the same, people will leave
>>723002020anon you severely overestimate the ability of these writers to make fandaniel seem relevant or interesting in any way without revealing he's actually an entirely separate character twice, much less finding the time to do that for multiple garleans without just making them all comically evil retardsalso consider that making more than just garlemald the zone would have required them to not have 5.5 end on that retarded setpiece instance and make players spend early parts of the expac doing things in old ugly zones instead of being culturally enriched by jeetlephants or getting burgers in sharlememe
>>723004085Not him but on Light (EU) it can take up to 50-70 minutes for some of them.I know because I farmed the first one which most likely had the worst queue times.
>>723007727imagine thavnair 1 stretched out into 2 zones
>>723007727I'll never forgive them for handwaving Garlemand like that. It should have been an expansion on its own.
>>723007268Although I understand you point I disagree to some extent because Yoshida should be more vocal and showing that he understands fans complaints at the very least even if he doesn't think the MSQ/ Expansion is a dog.They're also absolutely awful at handling scandals which has pissed a lot of people off, Look at how they reacted to Susan Calloway, firing her and distancting themselves from her completely meanwhile Kate has done far, far worse and it's radio silence if anything Foxclon who is the global community manager blocked people on twitter who brought it to his attention. So I think they are very awful at handling scandals and they have donated $250k in the past for Black Lives Matter meanwhile again radio silence around Charlie Kirk and how Kate acted.>>723007576They are too stubborn, they know what needs to be done but won't implement it because that would be admitting failure in their vision. They hadn't written the post patches for Dawntrail per Yoshida's interviews until after they read the reception for Dawntrail, after 7.0 was launched and yet even after the massive backlash that Wuk Lamat received they still included her in every patch since, 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3.
>you know what this game needed?>a 4th MSQ where garlemald was the main antagonist!
>>723006286>Nearly everyone who skips the MSQ in XIV quitsthis is genuinely the most delusional fucking take in the thread, you think people that play the game and all they do is raidlog every week are the ones quitting? and not the people that play the story patches do a couple roulettes and either sit afk in limsa or log off until the next patch? genuinely think for one fucking second on who actually plays the game and who doesn't.
>>723008009Yes, actually.
>>723008085He should have been way more relevant in Endwalker. Instead they pushed him to a side quest.
>>723007123WoW and COVID migrants need not apply
>>723008139he should have stayed dead
>>723008021The people who raid constantly are like 5-10% of the population anon
>>723008009we didn't even get 3 unless you count 1.0>uhhh but emet is solus
>>723008193then say that instead of saying they don't play the game, they clearly do, to an autistic degree.
>>723008009>you seriously wanted the ongoing main antagonistic force of the setting to be properly resolved?
>>723008139scheduling conflicts please understand and enjoy the gundam reference content where we kill the rest of his entire adopted family because he is the least bad bad garlean (as long as you ignore Nero exists)
>>723008280>ongoing main antagonistic forceGarleans are Ascian puppets, they aren't the Ascians
>>723008280i bet you think meteion is the antagonist of endwalker
>>723008339Nero's an opportunistic scab with an autistic hate-boner for Cid, Gaius meanwhile got the full Gundam flair of being punished for not realizing he was a stooge much sooner
>>723008373You left some choice words out there, shadowbab. And the Garleans being Ascian puppets is irrelevant because the Garleans were a force unto themselves. You may have noticed that Garlemald didn't vanish into a puff of smoke when Emet died.>>723008449>i bet you think [strawman]Let me know when you're ready to talk like an adult, endbryo.
>>723008009It's kind of weird that there are so many leftoids who gravitate towards this game but don't mind the ""evil"" empire getting handwaved out of the story because "ummm we already know imperialism is le bad sweaty"
>>723008548It's because Garleans are actually a leftist empire and they're uncomfortable with that knowledge.
Almost finished with Stormbringers. I'm in post patch stuff. At last! I'll be free of FFXIV 2.0 A Realm Reborn Extended Free Trial Critically Acclaimed, until they make Shadowblood free at least. So close.
>i hate realm reborn>i hate answers>i hate susan calloway>i hate minfilia>i hate ascians>i hate koji>i hate heavensward>i hate maehiro>i hate aymeric>i hate edgeslop>i hate rape in my fantasy>i hate politics>i hate stormblood>i hate garlemald>i hate hien>i hate hate hate HATE HATE HATE HATTE!!!!!! Lyse>i hate eureka>i hate savage>i hate the job system>i hate cross classing>i hate accuracy>i hate TP>i hate MP>i hate all the jobs in their original incarnations>but yeah FFXIV is the greatest game ever and there are no flaws and honestly you just don't like the game, we stan dawntrail!
I won
>>722991741how badly things would go for yshtola if she got isekai'd to our world? probably falling on top of yoship during a liveletter or something.
>>723008694woah yoship posts on /v/
Im going to start playing when it goes to mobile in the US. WHEN IS GLOBAL RELEASE!?
>>723007268>words words words>all that word salad to flesh out >XIV good and >Yoshi goodsybau loser
there is NO WAY they had enough time to fix anything substantial about ffxiv to release within 8.0. Even the time between Endwalker release and date wouldn't be enough to fix all the games problemI'd say it would take MUCH MORE effort and time than the 1.0-2.0 transition, as with core game system rewritten it also has to work with all the legacy content the game providesIt would require a whole expansion-release amount of time and money to make ffxiv into a better game, during which there will be no MSQ, no new quests, no dungeons, no new jobs, nothing, and the japanese salesman knows the game cannot handle another dawntrail-tier expansionalso>beastmaster still not releasedfucking GRIM
>>723005331>First dungeon is a pirate rape dungeon>Final dungeon you're trying to convince autistic bird skynet to stop causing chaosOne misstep on Limsa and the WoL coud have ended with a mouthful of miqote pussy probably chained in some backwater cave and no one would have known.
>>723008527>Garleans were a force unto themselvesthey literally acked themselves or ack the whole planet out of spite for not being the world's main charactersgarleaboos are cringe. put on the imperial operative's hat
>>723009017You can go ask your chatGPT mommy to help simplify English longer than a tiktok title for your dog ass niggerbrain, Ranjeet.
just remember that the one fighting style garleans invented themselves has been completely overshadowed by the turali fighting style
>>723009174Yes, they were a global problem for decades, glad you agree. Now fuck off back to /trash/, Abel.
>>723008009As opposed to having 4 expansions where ascians are the main antagonist?
>>723009146Foolish of you to think SE will not just continue doing the same until EoS if that ever happens.
>>723009272I like it on my shoulder more than I like the Riku from Kingdom Hearts stance
>>723009267nah. we all know xiv will continue to be dogshit. nobody needs an endwalker bandwagon rider like (You) posting long diatribes about how acktually the game is saved because uhhh wuk lmao was in slightly less cutscenes for 6 quests
>>723009306>garleaboo is a dollar-store barry clonesad but poetic
>you don't agree with me?>you must not have played the game when i didlol. lmao even
>>723009472I'm not a garleaboo, I'm someone who actually gave a shit about the setting once upon a time. Garlemald is a bunch of globohomo commies so they should be right up your alley, little buddy. Or maybe you just don't like seeing your kin as the villains. You also haven't even played the game in over a month.
your opinion on the game isn't wanted unless you started in 1.X or 2.X>b-b-b-but my opinions are le heckin valid!!1don't care. didn't ask.
>>723009416Let's do a show me yours I'll show you mine. When did you first start playing XIV?
>>723009727the garlean empire ended exactly the way it should have
>>723009727and what is your opinion sir
>oh you wanted a full expansion focused on Garlemald killing itself through hysteria and hypocrisy with the final boss being their delusional patriotism made manifest?>that means you wish you were garlean!
>your opinion on the game isn't wanted unless you started in 1.X or 2.X^ This, unironically.
>>723009727How dare you. According to the Lodestone achievements of the player I'm obsessed with, you are a shadowbab endbyro. I am the epic oldfag here.
>>723008449She and Hermes were insufferable.
>>723009784The series of events, yes. But the scope, no. Anima should have been a final boss.
So basically this game sucks and you all have wasted your lives playing it?
FF14 and Final Fantasy is a heavily narrative focused game.Dropping the ball on the narrative is the biggest mistake FF14 has ever made and it's reputation is unrecoverable.
what happens when they run out of mainline FF games to copy though?
>>722991130ARR was shit but it set up a world that was worth it. Maybe 8.0 will be their heavensward. Or maybe it's over. I enjoyed it while it lasted.
>>723009869I started in 1.0 and you started in 4.5, so yes I am the oldfag here and you have nothing but contempt for everything in the game that predates Endwalker.
>>723009171WoL should have been fucking at least half of the scions, but the game got too popular and became "safe."
>>723009842But people did exactly that in ARR-SHB. There were countless people saying "Garlemald did nothing wrong! Gaius was right all along! I want to join their side! Can we get 50 sets of Romansloppa armor??"
>>723009980anon we only started the blatantly copying ff games part of development because they ran out of original ideas to realize by synthesizing plot elements from other games. We still have a ways to go until we're referencing other FF crossover titles directly
>>723009787XIV is propped up by mazed addicted middle aged men / trannies and younger trannies / women using the game as anime second lifeEOS is a long way off but the game is essentially a walking corpsethere is no way to save the game without completely reworking everything relating to jobs, combat, content and rewards AND then hiring a completely new writing team that can respect the narrative and lore built between 1.0 and shadowbrangers
>>723009998You did not start in 1.0, I already know about you and your screenshot theft from that red selfcest Midlander. You roleplay often for somebody that bitches about Second Life and obsesses over a Highlander you saw on /vg/ once.
>>723010105i do not disagree
>>723009980FF17 might be out by then
>>723010083They got taken in by a charismatic speech which should have been an opportunity for the writers to turn that around on them. Instead Yoshida got mad that they liked the villains and had Zenos tailor made to be a Garlean so insanely evil that nobody could ever like him. Yoshida has openly said he hates the Garleans as a concept because he didn't make them and was forced to carry them over from 1.0.
>>723009950the ball was dropped pretty fucking hard in stormblood already, they just need to pick it back up
>>723010148>You did not start in 1.0Oh but I did.>I already know about you and your screenshot theft from that red selfcest Midlander.No clue what you're talking about since I've never posted any 1.0 screenshots, certainly not of anyone else's character.>a Highlander you saw on /vg/ onceHe posts here though, never been on /vg/. Are you confirming he does post on /vg/? Because I'll hunt through the archives for him if so.
i don't use /vg/ but i'm obsessed with /vg/ posters but this is my first time hearing they're from /vg/ and i am very intelligent
>>723010212But how could they? The Garleans 'were' right about primals, gods, etc. They were superior in technology and science. They were robbed of their land. The only choice the writers had was to suddenly make them act crazy and cartoon villain evil.
>>723010413Abel (you) posts his character here on /v/.
>>723004452Damn. I'm so glad I went to the gym in my teenage years and can have sex like a normal person. Terminally online autist are something else.
>>723008009You know what we didn’t need? A story where an incompetent, inarguable retard was paraded around as a good person and leader. There’s no reason to bully the worthless so hard for so many hours
>>723010253They won't, all the og devs have been moved onto other projects.Koji, Maehiro, and a bunch of the other guys involved in ARR and Heavenswards were moved onto FFT's remaster and the other project that CS3 is working on that they haven't announced.
>>723010535but enough about Emet-Selch
>>723010212The only thing Hiroi ever did right was making a properly insane Garlean that mogs the fuck out of Zenos.
>>723010657figures he wrote that story line, it was the first time in playing the game where I went "huh this writing is kinda shit"
Zenos needed to stay in the elf body during the supposed 6.0 expansion. Explore his background. Maybe he'll learn the value of comraderie or maybe he'll try to exceed the wol without friends. Fandaniel should've been the one to kill Varis. Possess his body and use Zeno's original body as a prop to enact the successor protocol (my own kin has tried to slay me, bow to your emperor or die). Fandaniel uses the voice of the emperor to temper hardline Garleans.Thavnair would have called on your assistance to stop the tempered Garleans from stealing their people. Now we've set the stage for 6.0. Garlemald only exists for Fandaniel. The wol and friends will split into different fronts to combat the tempered. Oh, and Alisaes method of un-tempering people causes Ga-bu to turn into a Titan-egi. The aetherial composition of a person from the Source is different from that of the First.
>>723004452Yeah as a former Light player I would say the female to male ratio on the servers there is about 40% females 60% males. But the women are not always in the best of shape, they're MMO players, the nice looking fit ones are the rarity. I was talking to a Scottish lass, she sent me a picture of herself and she was over 300lbs I instantly blocked her/ ghosted her. I came across another lass she was Chinese but born in England and was completely insane, she was 37 and would regularly post nudes of herself in the FC chat but she was married and had two kids and no she wasn't attractive she had a face only a mother could love and the body was busted.
>>723003632When was the last time you played wow? There are so many things to do and grind (and now the SL grind type) there. Maybe not enough for a full year, but at least, when you sub, you play the game.Meanwhile on XIV, the patch is cut in multiple parts and if the content is not for you, might as well cancel you sub, especially when you're caught up, there is literally nothing to do. And since the content produced is heavily tilting towards savage-like difficulty, with a bad MSQ, no wonder casuals are quitting heavily.SE produces so many things that do not have any real replayability. I'm even amazed they didn't bother creating a new duty that could include stuff like variant dungeons.Just look the quantum. It's great fight, but there is no real reason to replay it. For hardcore raiders, you do it once and that's it, while casuals might try a more difficult version if they like it. But since it's tied for DD for absolutely no real reason, this content is as good as dead in a few months. Or the outdoor zones: how much time and efforts are made to create them from scratch? For what? a literal background for the MSQ (VN), the cheapest fights (fates) and that's it.
>>723008714Only solo DD that people care about or respect is potd lil bro.
>>723011026What are the reasons to do all the content in WoW? Is the issue simply that its too quick and easy to get geared in XIV and we should implement more RNG?
>>722989880Sucks for you anon I’m still clearing PT 7 more times for the cool mount
>>723011334Not rng, just a reason to grind.
>>722995009Anon no point to replying to mentally ill people
DO NOT OPEN SCARY
>>723002681that has nothing to do with it, Yoshidas just a retard
>>723011685funny thing is i've seen more deaths from people trying to avoid these than just seeking them out
It was dead the second SE catered to theythems
on second thought, the outfit doesn't really go with the sugarcone body type does it
>>723011610How do they stretch out the gearing process in WoW then if not RNG?
>>722989880I know a guy who thought he was some kind of smooth ladies man because he would message "girls" on this game. I tried to tell him but he refused to listen.
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>>723011334The problem is, there are SO FEW sources of gear in XIV, so it's just impossible to just copy it. In WoW, you have so many pieces of gears, with various different stats on them (not shitty stats like DH/crit/det), sometimes it can proc with additional secondary stats (avoidance, speed...). Obviously on FF, it's impossible to replicate with just the expert dungeons and savage raids.I think they should just make more duties like I wrote, but they should also rework the challenge log/WT(/mogpendium). Give more interesting incentives to replay the content, give the tools for people to do it, but make more content that you know will last. Also rework completely the outdoor. Also, Ozma should be banned from non savage+ content, straight up (which is big plus for ultimate raiders, since he'll have more time for that). Have new teams pump fights, it doesn't matter if they reuse assets, just make more things. Also in WoW, it's not only for the gear, sometimes it's just fun to fly around, kill some stuff in WQs, do some delves. You always have a reason to do the content, could be rewards from a faction, gold, gear, mounts, pets... There are also frequently mini events in each zone, like a non retarded train hunt with different objectives. In FF, the closest thing to that would be the special FATEs in ARR, but more fun and interesting.
progression from gear is an outdated mechanic and it matters so little in 14 i wish they'd just get rid of it
My own opinion after having played both is that I prefer FFXIV for one reason: Despite all of it's problems, and the (lack of) quality of the story in recent times, it at least has a coherent story you can follow. The way WoW handles your character and the story is like opening a book 2/3rds of the way through and starting to read from there. Even other games like GW2 and ESO handle story progression differently, with ESO easily doing it best. If WoW is truly the better game, how do you manage to get past that sense that you (the player) just don't belong, when you (the character) are being treated literally like the center of the plot? For example, when I played, I got dropped into the main town for my faction and immediately was thrown into a conversation with the queen (I guess?) who started talking about a returning threat that I vaguely knew was the bad guy because he looked like the main bad guy from a marketing video years ago (Legion expansion, maybe?) but other than "this dude in this cutscene looks like that dude from that cutscene, and chick says he's the big baddie", I had no context to what was going on.
I have a feeling they're gonna bring emet back
>>723011936Even the shitposters are giving up.
>>723012457He's still relevant to the retcon.
Content wise, to me it feels as if WoW delivers every dinner course at once and you go consuming at your own pace, whereas XIV is one dish at a time, which can be problematic if you don't particularly like that dish.And WoW does something better, that is modular difficulties for their short-runned content (aka dungeons and delves), which adds a TON of longevity to the content. I hope that Quantum actually does something similar in XIV, and this is just a testing ground for the feature.
>>723012518>just a testing ground for the featureI remember using that cope. Genuinely thought Eureka was going to enable elemental stats. Silly me.
Personally while FFXIV does have better stories in terms of narratives told from start to finish (like Shadowbringers), I personally find that people vastly underestimate just how much you can mentally lose yourself in Azeroth (and beyond) and how rich the world is. Every race and faction has tidbits of lore, you can physically visit their settlements, and subzones in expansions introduce even more little races or splinter groups and they try and give them bits of identity as well. The Arakkoa from WoD are an example I like for this, they gave them a surprisingly rich culture and history despite just basically being the Guys In This One Leveling Zone. It ties into a boss in Hellfire Citadel later, it calls back to TBC's Arakkoa, it's just generally nice. And there's stuff like that all over, things like the Sha in MoP, the Tuskarr in Dragonflight. It's awesome to see the types of characters that people can come up with, the headcanons they have for their PCs, or just other stuff they cook up in roleplay realms (just as many people have headcanons for their WoLs).
>>723012306Yeah the story on WoW... It's just bad, always. Sometimes it's more interesting, but it always goes into the wall, always a bigger world ending threat. Besides, they retcon every few years, so... I don't think a lot of people really play for the story, even if for the new expacs it's one of the focus.>If WoW is truly the better gameThere is no "better game", there are games that do things better than others. For FF, it's the job system, the sync, the msq and the high level bosses. Of course other things too, but I think these criterias are what make the game.That's why these devs should really think of what they make, and make the most of it. Again, when I see how the outdoor content is handled, why even invest so much efforts for it to mostly be a background in your visual novel?
>>723011334you could simply just put glam exclusive stuff in these fights and people will do it. ultimates literally just give a weapon that's bis for 1 tier and a title. just put some nice looking armor or weawpons in some of this side content and people will do it.
>>723011862for lala's you would only really get it for the headpiece and the legs/shoes
I think a lot of people here who complain that regular ffxiv content is too easy and wish it was more like WoW don't understand this. I gave WoW a try when TWW came out and I was shocked by how braindead easy the regular queueable content is. You load in and your tank just goes full sprint on the optimal path, you barely have to even touch the enemies and they just melt. You get to the boss and it dies in 30 seconds before it even does any actually dangerous mechanics. Repeat that 4 times and the dungeon is over.
>>722989880>wow is releasing content faster than xiv nowwhat went wrong
Delves are so good and I'm so hype for WoW housing too, I think they've been such good additions to WoW and I appreciate Blizzard coming out and saying that they want more varied content for players in WoW, because that's precisely why I used to spend so much time in FFXIV.
if wow is stealing ideas from xiv, xiv should steal ideas from runescape, add dungeoneering that is my pitch
I can easily get myself caught up within a day or two, even have a fresh character caught up within a week. There's so much content I can do with relatively little time commitment that still feels reasonably rewarding. I don't feel like I'm falling behind if I don't play every day/week and there are reasonable goals I can accomplish that still feel rewarding without having to commit to the most difficult content. All of this makes it really easy to get friends involved, too.
>>723010790Has he ever written anything not shit
>>723012889If you want more challenge, there are always stuff to do and in this case it'd be mythic+ or delves. That's disingenuous because you're talking about the equivalent of a leveling dungeon while complaining people say the regular xiv content is too easy. Now, in XIV, there is no equivalent content to delves or mythic+. There is no in between difficulty to do, it's either you do the most casual content or extremes (only ONE fight per patch) or savage+ fights. I'd even say most casuals never even play at max level, since there is nothing to do more than duties.
>>723003098Wtf how are you getting xiv autist fempussy and I'm stuck here arguing with retards over nothing?
xiv turns people intro trannies 100% look at pint the second he picked up this gay game over wow
>>723012889Did you ignore how WoW has 4 raid difficulties and infinitely scaling dungeon difficulty and like 10 difficulties for their solo dungeons? Sure, normal mode in WoW is easier than normal in XIV. But thats why you have options.
>>723013558*she
I would play wow but the need for addons just to raid is a major turn off.
>>723006286>XIV basically 'is' the MSQShame the MSQ for the last three fucking years has been dogshit isn't it?
>>723013793Well they're getting rid of that in Midnight. Which is the main reason why I might actually go back to WoW again. Meanwhile FFXIV every single savage and ultimate raider is using cactbot or splatoon.
>>723013793They're getting rid of combat addons and simplifying classes to not need them
>>723014056>simplifying classesthere is not a single class in the history of WoW that ever needed addons to function, they just needed raids to not be untested retarded messes.
For WoW, I believe their combat content and their general foundation is basically second to none. They managed to find The Sauce on how moving and doing things feels good and keeps that, no matter what. It’s the principle of why Destiny 2 also keeps going: Despite everything, pressing a button and seeing the action just feels good.
>>723014201Eh a lot of specs benefit from stuff like weakauras that need to be pushed asap when procced
>>723011731its both of those at once
>>723014439I would argue that's only if you're being a parsetard. Everything from when at least I played was intuitive. When I had a proc a decal would be glowing around my character so I knew "I have enhanced stormstrike" boom.
>>723014439benefit, but benefit is an entirely different word than need. there is nothing wrong with a class being hard to play and for human error existing, just block the addons entirely without simplifying the classes it's such a retarded change.
It's hard not to feel as if everything is on the 6-week cadence and if you miss it (even if the stuff goes on longer), well too bad for you! 11.2 is already mentally done and dusted even if turbo boost is right around the corner and most groups are in the final stretch of getting their AotC/CEs, its time to worry about Legion Remix (which has its own mini-hype cycle of 2-week releases!).
>>723012501>october 17, 2025>Anonymous 10/11/25(Sat)14:28:10 No.723012501
Why did they give us Clive’s outfit but not his hairstyle??
>>723014796Sorry I'm posting from next week.
im loving this game
im playing through 7.1 and what the fuck went so wrong?did Yoshi-P get brain injury during the development of DT?i know he was focusing on XVI but holy shit.What blackmail does Hiroi and Kate have on him?
>>723015140Old 2.0 gear > modern glams
>>722989880Soken's work on FFXIV and XVI is pretty good, but I don't understand why people rave about him to the extent that they do. Yeah I liked the music in Seat of Sacrifice, no need to remind me that he composed it when he was ill every fucking time someone hears it.
>>723013142so what was the life changing event?
>>723015797
>>723008764She would be effectively blind and all her knowledge would be useless.
>>723005104>island sanctuaryI genuinely can't believe they tried to make this a thing for like one patch and then completely ignored it
>>723015797given hiroi's writing and the themes that appear in it, something about his parents
Remember that if we don't get a Live Letter this month, that means 7.4 is for Januarymore than 5 fuckings months of waiting for more MSQ slop and 4 raids, then one month later for a variant dungeon.
>>723011685They aren’t even hard
>>7230152317.1 can't even be called a filler patch, it's worse than that. It is only good if you did FRU (and according to SUPER elitists, it was a bad ultimate lmao).7.1 felt like they got caught off guard by DT's reception and they truly didn't have time to change direction.
>>723015925I don't even know why they made it so hard to use furniture. Never did it since I didn't bother checking how to get the craft components and because it's so shit of course.I guess this was good content for plugin devs wanting to create and test bots
Imagine playing this piece of shit "game"
>>723015797Probably just "hired by Square Enix"
How long until we get some kind of teaser/reveal for the next expansion? Has anything happened in the past few months that gives more hint to the actual timeline? I haven't been keeping up.
>>723014796It's a real post here is the linkhttps://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/62695086.htmlThe largest FFXIV blog/ fansite in Japan has given up on FFXIV and is not going to be a general games website/ news site. Dawntrail really shit the bed.
>>723017035*now
>>723017035Owaridone for real this time.
>>723017035>2chblogLast I recall there was an enormous push back against 2ch/5ch satellite sites and scrapers in the Japanese internetProbably trying to gain some legitimacy
>>722989880isn't everyone enjoying the "new" deep dungeon? with 99% reused assets? you don't like the palette swap beaver minion as a reward for your time put in? huh?that's crazy!
>>723017035The only thing I know about this 2ch blog is somebody really likes it here and gets upset if you read some threads about FFXIV community drama, and the natives are suspicious about OP being a crossposting American.
>>723017523Can you try and not be a schizo tranny for one thread? Just be normal and post in English instead of whatever native language you're posting and using chatgpt to translate it into English.
>>723016896
>>723017606Sorry I forgot the latest 4chan underage meme to dismiss something is "ur an ESL". Translated to Dipshit my post says "I only see spammers and community drama whores on /v/ talk about this blog, and the Japanese people that use the blog suspect it's Americans pushing irrelevant community drama there in turn"
>>723017026April 24 at the USA fanfest
>>723015598Personally im over his stupid fucking jpop slop in a supposed ''fantasy'' setting and find myself only really looking back on 1.0 Uematsu music as noteworthy. WoW is still king of mmo music
what is it about occult crescent that is so unengaging?i spend a gorillion hours in bozja but got bored on like day 1 of this one and never went back
>>723014805Because Clive's model in the event was his 16 head put on a 14 body, so they only made usable shit for the 14 part. Unlike Noctis who was a full 14 model and looked off.
>>722998410>>722998613>>722998918What I wonder about is... where is Ishikawa in all of this? Isn't she a supervisor now? Isn't she supposed to be reviewing scripts before they are implemented?
>>723015797The theatre company he founded went out of business
>>723018323>where is Ishikawa in all of this? Isn't she a supervisor now?being promoted to supervisor is just japanese speak for she is going to be working on the next mainline final fantasy game and never actually look at ff14s script.
>>723018323>Isn't she supposed to be reviewing scripts before they are implemented?You're misunderstanding japanese management in an creative industry. The "being polite" culture is so ingrained in them that even if her underlings wrote total dogshit (which they did) she would give wish-washy polite feedback like "oh maybe we should do this" or "have you thought about changing that". They're not going to completely lambast you and just say start out you're terrible at your job, because that would be a great dishonoru to her as well. If you have competent people in crucial roles like hers, it's pure luck. Back when she had a manager, he would've given her the same wishy washy bullshit feedback if she wrote crap, but just out of luck she was talented.
>>723018589She wrote the scene in 7.0 where the WoL and G'raha ride the gondola so she's not completely uninvolved.
>>723018323It's easier to blame Hiroi for everything than accept the heckin' Shadowbringers and Endwalkies queen can put out a mid expansion launchSee also the immediate ascribance of literally any other writer to 7.1 and on to now to avoid the idea of Hiroi writing those
>>723019108>it's easier to blame the person who wrote the expansion than the person who didn'thow profound
>>723019108Endwalker was carried hard by the build and being the conclusion to everything that came before. In a vacuum it's awful.
>>723017782Post in English.
>>723017172>Last I recallYou mean you made it up.
so who will be in the last wing of the FF11 raid?my guesses:>The Serpent Generals>Tenzen>Shantotto (not made of electrope, the actual one)>Promathia
>>723017683Dude literally fucked off back to WoW after FFXIV hype fell off. If DT did one good thing for the game is got rid of a lot of tourists.
>>723019179>nyooooo supervisors have no relevancePurest cope
>>723017782Why do you lie so much? You'd hate yourself a lot less if you just stopped lying all the time.
>>723019440>anons first experience with japanese management
>>723019339who cares this raid sucks ass nothing but "hey remember this", people shit their pants over every other ff reference but suddenly when it's 11 it's okay
>>723019339He talked about the gods, so possibilities are:>Lilith Ascendant>the celestial avatars (Ifrit, Shiva, Ramuh, Titan, Leviathan, Garuda, Alexander, Odin)>the terrestrial avatars (Carbuncle, Fenrir, Diabolos, Bahamut, Phoenix)>Ragnarok (Odin and Alexander fighting each other with you in the middle)>Tenzen (he wields Phoenix's power so he can fit in with the 'power of the gods')>Iroha (same as Tenzen)Promathia will be the last boss so I'm leaning towards Tenzen and the terrestrial avatars because of their important roles in Chains of Promathia.
>>723019801when you aggro Kirin in the second raid he says 'you who have shed your moral form'i believe he's speaking to axlaal, which makes me think saheel ja is going to start looking at npcs rather than bosses
>>723019801Iroha would be kind of weird since she was already part of an event and the WoL met her
>>723019916I don't see them actually raising Alxaal to canon WoC status because that would shit over everyone who sees their own character as the canon protag.>>723019965Yeah but it's just a clone of Iroha, and it would be while she's still wielding Phoenix.
>>723005104>They love catering to raiders with real content while they think casuals only like slop like fishing boats.The issue isn't that they're catering to raiders given even most of their newer additions outside of Savage have been refused assets but the fact that for nearly a decade people in the game acted smug for not being "raiders" and pretending that the crafting content, small side content like IR, Beast Tribes and the like were more than enough to satisfy players and was SE giving them favor. What do you think the devs are going to think about when their non-raiders want content now?
>>723015140based roegadyn player
>>723015140I kneel to you, big man on campus
>>722989880Bring back the ERP plug ins
remember when the game had belts
>>723020275>bring back 80% of players who ended up making the game shitNo
>>723020306I remember when the belts actually had a fucking model on the character
>>723020306Remember pink items/ gear?
>>723020421That was like 13 years ago grandpa
I like raiding. For reference, in WoW I had six CE's under my belt. In FFXIV, I've cleared tier one week 2 and this tier week 3. I've cleared FRU. I parse in the high purples, if not orange in both games.WoW's raiding is fun but hard to pug sometimes. Besides that, there's nothing to do outside raids. I hated M+, I hate PvP. I very much hated that my BiS came from both of those and I almost needed it or my dps was hot garbage. I hate WoW's crafting. I despise WoW's gathering. I hate being forced to do dailies.With FFXIV, I have so many different raids to choose from on many different classes. I get my BiS by raiding and doing hunt trains/roulettes every now and then. As long as people are okay with me being loot locked, I can join any raid at any point in time. Crafting is so much more fun in this game. Gathering is too. While I still don't like PvP, this game isn't that great for it so joining my frontline roulette for new glamour isn't as much of a pain as WoW. The glamours are so much more beautiful in this game, and the character models.The only things from WoW I miss is a true pet class, transmog, and the (pre Dragonflight) lore. While I never really played hunter, collecting cute pets was fun. I would kill to have an unlock system for glamours instead of this stupid dresser with only 800 slots. I'm going to get butchered, but I cannot get into the lore in FFXIV. None of the characters are interesting. Maybe because it's all text and I can't connect or something but it's just so boring.
>>723020275They never left
>>723019385>Lose 65% of your playerbase practically overnight>"Heh... f-filtered!"lmfao
>>723020486I remember the pink shit you could get with randomized stats from Diadem that could be better than Savage drops and raiders shit their pants and sperged out over it
>>723020486Diadem gear?>>723020507>he doesn't remember +2 and +3 items before they restricted it to just +1 for quality purposes
>>723020634Wasn't it more than 65%?
>>723020776Probably, but I am being conservative because you'll get spergery over luckybancho numbers
>>723020634He's been trying to push that cope for over a year now.
>>723020634>bubble burstsI actually would call that filtered.
>>723020850who is "he"
>>723019108people have been in denial about Hiroi for ages because there's very little actual information for who wrote what in the expac. I remember seeing people claiming most of DT was written by whoever made the shb pixie quests and that makes about as much sense as the latter third being written by Oda with Hiroi doing the bare minimum besides shitting up some specific scenesConsidering he wrote Asahi and Emet's first appearances it takes very little to transmute what he can lay out to something palatable, the problem is that the opposite happened in DT
>>723015873catgirl though
>>723020951>>723021090>1 minute apartYou, by the looks of it
>>723021814um anon that's two minutes
>>723021814no need to entertain the delusions of a schizophrenic, there's already the abel name flying around itt
>>723021582I remember people being very negative over Emet after his first appearance in StB though, it was only when ShB came out that opinion turned around.
>>723019385i'd rather play with tourists than modbeasts desu
>>723021892Truuuuuuuuu it's not schizo when you cry about random twitter posters and Athena areia tricking everyone into hating DT and making fake accounts just to unsub and make Yoshida look bad, it's only schizo when people notice you making the same posts for four years straight.
>>723006078oh hey i know those girls
>>723020634The game would've been 100% better off if it wasn't for the influx of tourists. Yoshi P even stated in a interview they change course with the amount of new players that showed up in Shadowbringers.
>>723022354>truuuu>runs defense for the slop youtubermeds
>>723022521the wol's autism sure is protecting him from being raped.
>>723022586Where'd you imagine that happened, Abel? Was it while you were doing the Yok Huy quests in 7.2?
>>723022548I wonder how much they regret adding Dynamis and the Oceanic servers now that all the tourists left.
>>723008694>I love No Sound, No Scitter
>>723022672Dynamis maybe, Oceania probably their only regret is the aussies didn't leave JP serversSide note that pretty blatantly the reason we don't have region travel is they want pig Americans to stay in their own DCs
>>723022668>>723022354This man appears to have been brutally raped by Abel Lowgust in the sweltering Ul'dahn summer heat of 1997
>>723022672Yoshida never planned for those people to stick around, chud.
>>723022812OCE is fucking dead though
>>723022978Anon-sama........ I said that
>>723022672>I wonder how much they regret adding new servers after they fumbled and lost a huge swath of their playerbaseI genuinely wonder what the world looks like in the minds of schizo cultists like thisLike, a regular business minded person might say, "wow gosh, this business had the opportunity to hook a huge bunch of players on their game and failed to do so. I wonder why we failed to do that?"This guy? "Ummm those were never real players anyway actually"Unreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1dmqVZEcD0>YoshitPiss: We're increasing rewards by 50%>also YoshitPiss: Here's a title and ummmm that's it xDXIV keeps getting grimmer and grimmer
>>723019339>inb4 yet another Cloud of Darkness
>>723023263>increase rewards for normal>sweaty autists still only get a titleLove it, not watching bald man-mode man-video
>>723023164what guy
>>723023489enjoy your dead game then
I recently started playing Wuthering Waves, and it taught me something important. That game (which is peak) releases small story patches every two weeks, and that rhythm is perfect for player engagement.Having to wait months for mediocre story quests is what made me drop FFXIV. If they had instead released shorter patches with two to three hours of story content every couple of weeks, a story quest with battles but no dungeon every two weeks, a story quest with a dungeon every month, and a new raid every two to six months, the wait wouldn’t have felt nearly as bad, even if the quests weren’t great.If FFXIV adopted that model, they would achieve maximum engagement, and the wait between major updates would no longer feel unbearable.
>>723023526guy who disagrees with him over shadowbringers and endwalker being artificially inflated player counts due to external real-world factors
>>723022327Tourists and modbeasts are one and the same.
>>723023602shut the fuck up and pay your sub fee
>>723023441you never hear that the ultimate campaign boss of ff11 was a memberberry
>>723023263He did say they were going to increase rewards by 50% by the time of 7.3 so where the fuck are those rewards? Oh yeah they're in the cash shop!
time to shill gacha now. ziv must be the first MMORPG to adopt unachievable gacha content pacing or else it WILL le die
>>723023642Why didn't a game that is successful and well run keep those players? Did covid ending, which doesn't even line up with DT's launch the way the player drop lines up with it, magically send all those players away to the shadow realm where they don't have access to computers anymore?
>>723023720I have the Ivalice set already so idgaf
>>723023602They need to do something because their biggest competitor is pumping out more content and growing and will always have money coming in from farming nostalgia fags (classic). Meanwhile FFXIV keeps putting shit on the cash shop.>>723023263This guy is literally waiting for the next MMO to jump to he only plays ffxiv because it's what brings him the most money.
>>723023758>why did the bubble burstAnon time traveling from the dot-com crash
>>723024002I don't think crutching on Classic is growth
>>723024009>Draws a parallel with a situation where an industry collapsed in on itself because of incompetence and novelty not being able to disguise the lack of real tangible valueI don't even think this retard knows how correct he is to choose this parallel, or why it applies.
>>723023602>mobile gacha is peakXIV is shit but come on don't embarrass yourself
>>723024115It's still $15/m coming in, and classic still has a fairly healthy community for how old it is.
>>723023602gacha players are genuinely the most braindead faggots imaginable
>thread still upfeels good to have jerked one to yshtola. what about you anon? you didn't spend almost 10 hours straight complaining about some old ass MMO, did you?
>>723023263Unc really wants WoW gameplay systems in FFXIV xdd
>>723024426i dont even play anymore i just like to read people complaining about the game
So far, Chaotic is the only piece of DT content that has done rewards correctly.>three unique glams, only takes 5-6 clears if you want 1 set>two mounts, one that is easy to get and one that requires a grind>NO TITLES (good) (nobody gives a fuck about titles Yoshi!!!)PT is lacking but it's alright>2 mounts from loot bags>1 mount for 8 clears>minions from loot bags>weapon glams from grinding>1 shitty level 1 glam from grinding>some titles (BAD) But what do you get from the HARD part of the content?>1 (one) title (LMFAOOOOOO)Don't even get me started on how embarrassing the OC/FT rewards are.
>>723023689No.>>723023726>>723024191>>723024341Unachievable? The amount of story content we had in the second expansion of Dawntrail was no more than 2 patches of Wuthering Waves. That's why I made a fairly realistically achievable roadmap by separating story content from dungeons and raids, because those do need more time to produce. Waiting a year on what will amount to 4 - 8 hours of story content and 2 - 4 dungeons is crazy work when other games (like Wuthering Waves) are pumping out 3 - 5 hours of story content every 2 weeks. And it's not bad content either. Look up the reviews and you'll see nothing but praise for this game (unlike its competitors). >>723024002WoW has indeed been trying to catch up to FF for a while, starting with the housing iirc.
>>723024685Still dead in an unironic weekGame's dying buddy
>>723024685>NO TITLES (good) (nobody gives a fuck about titles Yoshi!!!)I do when they're cool. Most of the time they aren't.
>>723024741stop shilling your gacha shit
>>723024786Not so fast bud. It takes 4 weeks of the challenge log to be able to afford the hair with Luminous oil. So it'll die in 3 weeks.
>>723024921Stop being an obsessed fanboy. Using an example to show how things can easily be done better is not shilling, it's called evidence and it proves I'm not talking out of my ass.
did dumpy change his tactics? this thread still being alive suggests it would be so
>>723025225>Stop being an obsessed fanboyyou're the one shilling your unrelated game here
>>723025303>seething so hard he couldn't read the rest of the commentYeah, you're a deranged fanboy.
>>722989880I only played ff14 from Sb to DT because there were insanely hot mentally ill women on there. Dt reduced that all to trannies. I quit because of that and am never coming back
Keep feeding me, little buddy.
>>723025280dumpy didn't change at all he's still mostly talking to himself
>>723025280Dumpy is whoever the resident white knight doesn't like at the moment, so his tactics are mercurial.
Have you guys spoken to wuk lamat? Maybe that will fix your problem
>>723025280
>>723025641^ This. Kate's bravest tranny soldier is VERY dedicated and tries his very best everyday.
He's going to post the Obama giving himself a medal picture.
post lalas
>>723024685It's so funny to think that they HAD THE WEAPON MODELS MADE ALREADY and STILL COULD NOT BE ASSED TO PUT A GLOW ON QUANTUM 40PURE fucking trash
No rewards GOODDead content GOOD
why do YOU hate dawn trail. Personally i thought it was ok. Not great but ok.
>>723025935Wuk lamat
>>723025868If they had put a glow on Q40 you'd have casualtroons whining about it instead
>>723025864you mean this one?
>>723010491and yet you are here, mr. normal person :)
I personally have anti-DT fatigue. If you just ignore everything bad about it, and praise something that's subjective like how you feel the raid "encounters" were, then it was actually le GOOD and I'm sick of everyone hating on it, don't you all agree?
>>723026007I play Deep Dungeon for the fucking Deep Dungeon I don't want to do some fucking generic Trial over and over to get all the rewards
>>723008714Same
>>723026239it is pretty convinient to be able to practice the last boss so you don't have to waste an hour and a half to get another try
>>723010931I lucked out and got approached by a fucking 25 y/o top tier scandinavian hottie while idling in gridania on my white scale max height aura.
>>723023902You're telling me if they added this in the game as a quest reward you wouldn't give a fuck?
I only open these threads to see if the same posts with the same replies are still going through their rotations.
>>7230259351) Schizo shit writing. The writers literally cannot maintain a singular detail they develop, they forget them as quickly as they introduce them as soon as they stop being necessary elements for the plot. Most damning are Godzilla's ever-burning breath being instantly forgotten about when he burns some citizenry and they just magically "get better" offscreen, the goblins stupid "can't talk to not-slave" culture being forgotten about as soon as it stops being necessary for the contrivances of the quest during that part of the game, and the birds literally forgetting how to make food.2) Wuk Lamat. Being forced to endure a character as retarded as her for 40+ hours is a decision whose impact on the player's enjoyment cannot be understated. She's shit.3) Gameplay consists of almost 90% "speak with Wuk Lamat." Even setting aside how terrible the character herself is, walking around point a to point b and merely talking to the same npc with such regularity that it became a fucking meme should reinforce just how little there is to fucking do in the game's MSQ.4) Living Memory was a hideous effort by the developers to jerk around the player's heart strings. I found it so blatant and so over the top that it became straight up offensive.You have genuinely shit taste if you thought it was even mediocre. It was crap.
>>723026565looks like shit
>>723026143So true fellow normal gamer.
>>723026536See they exist but they are the exception and not the rule. I was in an FC that was 'tolerant' you know the usual bullshit they were accepting of LGBTQ faggots, but I was in there because they raided regularly and I wanted to clear Savage. Anyway, so the leader of the FC was a Geordie and he got very 'friendly' with a lass from down south, from London she lived in Canary Wharf but was married, I think she was a teacher and the Geordie was a truck driver. All of them in their 30s and he would visit her when his job took him down south and he'd fuck her and the husband would be fine with it. I just kind of pushed it to one side when I was raiding but I thought that was really wild.
>>723024685You make $100m gil if you sell the hair and the mount in the next 4 weeks, those aren't shitty rewards
>>723026796lmao I was also in some faggy sacharine FC called TeaTime or whatever the fuck, they were like 45% girls and trannies and everyone was very forward with sharing their life stuff and selfies were a daily thing, and surprisingly most of the non-troon chicks were really cute.Ironically one of them was this 19 y/o furry chick with onlyfans, I nutted to her content multiple times cuz she was genuinely hot but I could tell she was broken as fuck.
>>723026934gil is fucking worthless
>>723023263>>723024685there's no possible excuse for any of the content to have bad rewards when there's a cash shop for a game with a paid sub.There are people that make excuses but they're all completely lost.
>>723027260Yeah dude gil is fucking worthless, all you can use it for is buying raid potions, food, housing items, rare mounts and minions.
>>723026934gil is only a good reward if its from Eureka. its the only time it counts since Eureka has super rare drops. otherwise it doesn't count
>>723025935I didn't hate the first patch desu. I could stomach Wuk Lamat being Naruto from Temu, because I'm a anime lover. I also enjoyed the setting (Tuliyollal is beautiful) and the new characters. At first I thought that each of Wuk Lamat's challenges would have its own dungeon (which would have been awesome), but instead we had things like the PeluPelu trading mission... Funny to watch, not so interesting to play. But then came the second story patch and I don't even remember what that patch was about. That's how bad it was imo, boring even at times. Thankfully DT had good raids and dungeons, but I know most people were already zoned out by that time.
>>723027371>raid potionsUseless if you don't raid>foodUseless if you don't raid>Housing itemsNot important to most players and craftable on your own by anyone who cares to do so>Rare mounts and minionslollmao evenLiterally the only thing that keeps the gil economy from going full retard is squeenix shitting out some gil sink mount, but nobody but retards care about that because you already get the best mount in the game 6 hours in
>Check in with SCH>They started focusing new shit entirely on the fairy and not the actual Scholar partMan, that sucks
>>723026681>effortpost>opposition to the argument instantly disappears every time
i love femlalas
>>723025935>Everyone on the continent is an idiot>Wuk is an idiot and we're stuck with her>We're forced to be an idiot by the quests>The story has nothing good going for it until Alexandria, and then it is only good because everything before that is awful>Story goes to shit again partway through Alexandria and never recoversThe bad just outweighed the goodAnd the content is kinda just the usual. The content hasn't carried this game for more than a decade now. I just tolerated it because the story was okay and I had friends playing
>>723025935I actually wanted the comfy vacation arc with the gang, instead got wuk'd to death. Despite the rubber bullet bullshit I kinda liked chilling in not-Texas with Erenville before wuk came calling again. At least the patch MSQ wasn't complete and utter dogshit.Otherwise can't speak about it content wise, luckily I actually play other games and take things slow so I still have shit to do, I've only been getting into harder content recently and even just on regular side content I've still been tying up stuff from EW, haven't even touched anything DT outside the MSQ (and a set of Role Quests).
>>723028287the 100 skill is literally turning into a gay angel its not even related to the fairy
>>723026681I'm sorry i just like what i like. I hope you're finding enjoyment out of whatever you're playing now.
>>723028804>not-Texas with Erenville before wuk came calling againYou're there for 2 seconds before you go on a quest to find a bracelet Wuk gave to some old lady, it's still very much about her the whole time
>>723024741wuthering waves story is not even worth caring about. the reason dawntrail being bad is seen as a disaster is because 14's story is cared about. a better example from the gacha space is limbus company and that game sees almost identical patch cycles for story content as 14
>>723029090That really showed there was something pathologically wrong with the writers. They could not even let you escape Wuk for a single minute. There is no shadow of a doubt for me someone intended for Wuk to become the main character. I don't know if Hiroi or Yoshida, but there is no universe where you don't have an over-arching motivation from giving a character in your 7th expansion the 3rd most dialogue in the entire game, where everything revolves around her to the extent it does in DT. You do not do that for a fire-and-forget character like Hien or Aymeric. You do that because you saw Graha Tia get to join the Scions and go "I want my scrumbo wumbo Wuk Lamat to do so too"
I just did the new extreme and I really like it
>>723029269>>723026143
>>723029269The fight is fun but it's pretty funny to me how quickly people stopped caring about the MH collab as a whole, felt like after the first day people were already over it.
>>723008714>>723026383Is there a time crunch if you play as tank in it?Planning on doing it with DRK but doing runs with friends first so slots are full
>>723029478It's a dogshit expansion but I like this fight (and several others).
>>723029128>wuthering waves story is not even worth caring aboutThat’s a strange take. 2.0 onwards is widely considered one of the strongest arcs in any gacha right now, with consistent 8/10 average reviews (and the lowest being 7/10).But story quality isn’t even the point. The argument is about content pacing. Wuthering Waves’ small, frequent patches keep engagement high, that’s something FFXIV could benefit from.Instead of huge, months-apart updates, smaller biweekly story drops (even short ones) would make the downtime between major patches feel way less dead.I haven’t played Limbus Company, but if its model involves year-long waits for a few hours of story, then that’s exactly the kind of pacing I think hurts long-term engagement whether in a gacha or an MMO.
>>723026007>you'd have casualtroons whining about it insteadWho fucking cares?They shouldn't make so much raidtranny content but if they do, they should properly incentivize it. It's like they fucking learned nothing.
>>723030651>the strongest arcs in any gachawhat a fucking low bar
>>722989880Pilgrim's Traverse is making me think they really wanted to lean on Shadowbringers nostalgia since Dawntrail was so bad
Shadowbringers memberberries will not stop the bleeding.
I was enjoying the new DD until the fucking Tower of Zot music started playing a floor and I hated it
>>723030651>That’s a strange take. 2.0 onwards is widely considered one of the strongest arcs in any gacha right nowlol
>>723031578I just got that 30 second long loop of shitty rock music that blares in your ears while you're running around Labyrinthos for 2 hours.
>>723031452No u
>engaging with a gacha "player"
>>722989880Where is the actual casual content?I ended up quitting because I would log in and have nothing to doThe only good casual part left was modding and I hear a few big mods got killed? Good job morons
>>723025935why should i, the WoL help an idiot become the leader of a giant country?
I’ve been going through new game plus again. Heavenward is more of a slog, the story doesnt kick into gear until ardbert/Minfilia leaving/ascending/and the actual actual final fight in 3.3 the 45% moogle and 20% ice heart nothing segments is pretty mind numbing
>>723033834raidtrannies still to this day, 15 years later, believe MMOs thrive and survive on "MUH HARDCORE ENDGAME RAIDING!!" MMOs will continue to die until devs stop listening to the vocal minority feedback.
>>723034402Mmo raiding is so dumbGacha devs already figured this shit out, raids should be solo. Everything else should be social
>>723034024ye HW kinda sucks on repeat playthroughsinteresting though in the light that since it's still maehiro you can see a lot of FFXVI's writing style and writing problems in it
Chaotic, Fucked Tower and now this DD basically convinced me SE learned nothing and doesn't actually care about pushing the game forward in any significant capacity and all they can do is keep onto the holding pattern and underdeliver. If you seriously think 8.0 is going to help you need professional assistance because you're experiencing delusions.
>>723008339Gaius is responsible for Ala Mhigo, he's way worse than Nero in every possible sense.
Aw gee whiz bros the game's never gonna get better, we should all just unsubscribe
>>723031578>Start doing a set in the desert>WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBI fucking hate these pulse remixes.
>>723034402>came across wildstar character creator music again by accident on youtube>Remembered how much fun the game world wasRaid-faggotry was one of the reasons it died. I am pretty sure it would have regardless but the attunement was INSANE. Fucking beyond insane. To use an XIV metaphor you had to do savage raiding of every dungeon and every extreme trial to get to the 24 man. But I am underselling how onerous it was. Fucking loved the combat though god damn it was fun.
>>723034993at this point we dont even need blizzard shills parroting this notion, the ff14 has been far on this path for a long time now.
>>723008596God I hate /vpol/ faggots who brainlessly assign every single antagonist to retard left/right dichotomy.Garlemald was an empire that wanted to erase religion, assimilate culture, and eliminate all save the "one true race".There's aspects of both left and right contemporary politics in their culture and goals.Gaius leans slightly left, Varus leans slightly right, and you can justify both of their actions on the opposite end of the spectrum if you had political motives.
>>723034024I still get a kick when you go to try and parley with the dragon and she's like "I am the spirit of your dead lover reincarnated" and he answers her with a "what the fuck are you talking about? Are you stupid?"
>>723034993This but unironically.
>>723035464>and eliminate all save the "one true race"Wrong, retard. Garlemald forcefully assimilated all other races and even promoted them to the highest offices in the country. Military training, weaponry, education, all mandatory for other conquered races. >Varus leans slightly rightHis ultimate goal was to solve racism by melding everyone into one race. That's the current real world lefty stance.
>>723035831>Garlemald forcefully assimilated all other races and even promoted them to the highest offices in the countryGaius did that, and it was so unheard of that he challenged his own men that survived us killing Rhitty abandoned him due to being a Roe.>His ultimate goal was to solve racism by melding everyone into one raceNigger he didn't want Aura to fuck lalas until everyone was mutts, he wanted to calamity the world until we were ancients. Retard wanted to defy the ascians by doing their exact stated goal.
>>723036039Varis's mind would have shattered if the game ever directly said Garleans are Allagan experiments or anything like that
>>723036039>Gaius did thatGaius did that, and so did others in the homeland. Gaius didn't promote Basch or Noah, Gaius didn't promote Asahi, Gaius didn't give Misijia an education.>Nigger he didn't want Aura to fuck lalas until everyone was mutts, he wanted to calamity the world until we were ancients.Yeah, it's a magical melding and it's still a melding. He believed the cause of all the world's problems was racism and wanted to end it by melding everyone into one race.>Retard wanted to defy the ascians by doing their exact stated goal.He disagreed with their means, not their goal.
>>723009992>ARR was shit but it set up a world that was worth it. Maybe 8.0 will be their heavenswardARR-era Eorzea and to an extent Coerthas were establishing and worldbuilding the areas really well, as much of a slog everything between the Ifrit and Garuda fights were, but there wasn't really anything noteworthy in Tural that would have a strong connection back to the other side of the planet.
>>723031461alright tranny
>>723036039I figured if you gave Varis enough writing and less retardedness then his scheme would be:>Take the best of the races>Put them in some Garlean Noah's ark and survive the calamities>Then kick ascian shit in and go "We're the masters now"It's stupid but you can understand it from the limitations of his point of view. Think of it like this:>Ancient Atlantean, Nephilim and Annunaki Sorcerers are the Illuminati>They view you and me like vermin>They want to bombard our world with disasters until the process refines mankind into our ancient superior ancestors>You and your chosen people cooperate with them, with the intention that when the antedilluvian world is recreated you are now strong enough to kick the ass of those ancient blowhards and rule.Your issue/Varis' issue is less the goal (Rejoinings) and more the people doing it (God-kings who clearly intend to rule over us even in this future paradise)
>>723036978The other part of it is Varis is just as much of a sucker for Garlean propaganda as his people are (criticism and parody of the imperial government and royal family was allowed under Solus, not allowed whatsoever and actively hunted down under Varis) which makes him all the more dangerous, in that he genuinely believes Garlemald will rise above its status as a false flag on the world-stage and reign supreme by its own virtueAll the moreso because without this preconceived idea that Garlemald will survive, thrive and rule, he has nothing really backing the idea that Man Garlemald can thwart the Ascians at the moment of their triumph, and everybody else in the Ghimlyt Dark tent found it completely unconscionable that Varis is perfectly willing to place several more reflections onto the chopping block in the name of possibly gaining the strength to thwart the Ascians, additionally heedless of Warrior of Light sitting in the room who by that point is completely capable already of fighting, beating, and killing all three Unsundered; Varis had no intention of allying with them beyond bringing them into the Garlean fold, he was simply angry that Garlemald would not be the ordained god-kings of paradise
>>723036179>Gaius didn't promote Basch or Noah, Gaius didn't promote Asahi, Gaius didn't give Misijia an education.You have two points with Basch and Noah, but Asahi and Misija are shitty points.Asahi wasn't even close to a legatus, and Misija like Yotsuyu was given her position due to her betrayal. Honestly I want to throw all of Bozja out since the IV was so far separated from Garlemald as a whole that they were actively trying to betray it and establish their own nation.I won't though since it is canon and I'd have to be some kind of fag to be mad at it.>by melding everyone into one raceYou have to admit that that's a world of difference away from globohomo trying to get all races (aside for ONE exception) to all fuck each other and lessen us all. Varus/Emet wanted everyone to be better off. If anything it'd be like trying to make the whole world magically Aryan. Like Adolf's alchemy or something.>He disagreed with their means, not their goal.Aside from his disagreement with the meteor project he didn't really do anything against their means either. He was still going to employ black rose, he was still going to use calamities to rejoin. Unless I missed it there's only one way to rejoin the worlds and Varus never mentioned doing it any other way.
Pretty fun you can tell most of the thread is a schizo talking to himself
>>723039389lolcow culture was a mistake
